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Evans Likely to Become Free Agent

Jason Reid reports:

It appears that defensive lineman Demetric Evans is headed to the free agent market.

The Redskins met with Evans's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, during the scouting combine at Indianapolis but have not extended a contract offer to the seven-year veteran, a team source said. The market opens Friday and Evans is not expected to have a new deal in place by then.

With the Redskins planning to bring back end Jason Taylor and considering re-signing end Phillip Daniels, who missed the 2008 season because of a knee injury, Evans might not be in the team's plans despite his strong performance last season at both end and tackle.

Evans had a personal-best 3.5 sacks and really stepped up. He played a bigger role than expected as Taylor struggled with knee and calf injuries and was ineffective during his first season in Washington. Evans is respected in the locker room for his selfless attitude and dedication to his teammates, and losing him would be a blow to team chemistry, several players said.

Of course, the Redskins could make a move toward Evans during free agency and sign him on the cheap if he has no other offers. That was their strategy last season and it worked for them as several players re-signed for little more than the veteran minimum.

With the exception of cornerback DeAngelo Hall, whom the team has actively pursued during the combine, Washington's other potential free agents have not heard much from management. The Redskins have met with Hall's agent, Joel Segal, and remain interested in reaching an agreement. The rest of their free agents are just waiting.

By Cindy Boren  |  February 23, 2009; 1:08 PM ET
 
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zfjr ... so you're saying that a bad draft gets rid of Vinny, and that's sort of addition by subtraction.

as painful as the thought is of more lost years ... I'm going to agree

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

while I certainly don't like the idea of lost years either, I think even a great offseason makes next year 8-8 9-7 season anyway where as normal Vinny offseason could finally push this team to the wrong side of its redundant mediocrity, and with names like Holmgren, Shanahan, Cowher, Gruden/Allen, maybe Dungy, or even just as a personnel guy Parcells, I might take a bad year for the chance to get rid of Vinny and not have 5-10 more years of middle of the road squeak into the playoffs teams.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Once again we let a true Redskin hit the steet!

Posted by: tomb4 | February 23, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

So we are gonna bring back an injury-plagued 34 year-old for one year who doesn't fit our scheme and costs $8.5 mill. And let a 30 year old, who fits our scheme, has held up physically well and won't demand $8.5 mill/year walk.


It's good to see our FO hitting on all cylinders.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Take Smith at 13.

Have some of the money tied up in performance-incentives...

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 12:55 PM

It's not that simple. What about the signing bonus? His agent is not going to let him sign for less than what he's slotted to receive. Last year's 13th pick got close to $11M guaranteed. So this year's 13th is going to get a bump from that. You can't put that kind of money in this guy's pocket given what he's shown character wise.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 23, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the logic of some of my RI brethren. Why would you cut Taylor. You can't call him a bust because he was was hurt. Also, you only cut him if you had someone to replace him with. I'm not convinced he won't have a good year, but once again, why all this guff over this defense that has been in the top 10 four of the last five years.

Where's the hoopla about the offense?

Posted by: rickyroge | February 23, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Here is the logic:
1) JT55 is expensive and does not fit our defensive scheme.
2) We were ranked 4th in the league in defense with him healthy for about half the games and not even a fullt-ime player for the ones he did play in - translation: we did it without him; we don't need him.
3) We have young guys like Wilson, Buzbee, Jackson who fit the mold of what JT does. It's not like he racked up a bunch of numbers that need to be replaced.
4) We could save $8.5 mill scot-free (no cap penalty), and use that money to upgrade anything else like locking up our CBs or signing some O-linemen.
5) He's 34 and we are not contending next year.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1 -

I would normally agree with that, except I don't see much out there worth spending the money on.

"In order to accomplish this turnover, the Skins will need to effectively use their cap space and draft picks"

Exactly. And the worst thing this team could do is overpay for a mediocre talent in free agency that will leave the team on the hook for years to come.

No, in my opinion the smart thing to do is live with what the Redskins have now, let their contracts expire after the season is over, THEN use that cap space effectively. At that point, we actually will have a decent number of draft picks to sign, we'll probably have to re-sign Rogers to a contract extension, we'll either (1) re-sign Campbell, or (2) need to spend money on another QB, and we'll be able to toy around with a much more proven core of youngsters (so we know what direction to go in as far as spending the money). Right now, we're a mystery team with a lot of conflicting personnel (meaning young & inexperienced vs. aging & past-their-prime). Once we know how good the youngsters actually can be, then we can figure out how to effectively use the cap space.

That's my opinion. I personally think any money spent now on long-term contracts will be spent blindly in terms of the future. I'd much rather have an expensive Jason Taylor on the hook for 1 season than an average talent at an overpriced contract for a long period of time.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | February 23, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

This post just proves the stupidity of Vinny once again. Let the liked guy who outplayed the expensive new guy, that every camera shot I saw all season was him sitting or standing by himself, go even though he'd cost a lot less and fits our system a lot better. If they actually keep Taylor it will be the stupidest move in a long line of dumb ones.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

You have got to be kidding me! I'll take Evans over a washed up Taylor any day. I know we could get Evans for half of Taylor's salary. The Skins plan to sign him on the cheap better not backfire!

Posted by: dcwun | February 23, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Evans was our best d-lineman last year. For a team that has had a struggling dline for years, it seems like a pretty stupid move not to resign him. I say let daniels go. he's never done anything for us anyway and is chronically hurt.

Posted by: tonytroese | February 23, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Idiots in the FO. Evans was one of the few bright spots on that line. Consistent, healthy, bigger and less expensive than Jason Taylor.

Might as well hand over the GM duties to a lobotomized squirrel...

Posted by: hwandon | February 23, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Losing Evans would be a bad thing. Even worse would be to lose Evans, age 29, while retaining Jason Taylor, 34, and Philip Daniels, 35.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Take Smith at 13.

Have some of the money tied up in performance-incentives...

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 12:55 PM

It's not that simple. What about the signing bonus? His agent is not going to let him sign for less than what he's slotted to receive. Last year's 13th pick got close to $11M guaranteed. So this year's 13th is going to get a bump from that. You can't put that kind of money in this guy's pocket given what he's shown character wise.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 23, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

We can play hard-ball. We can cite the fact that he dropped from the potential #1 slot. We can go into the year and say we are gonna use Samuels at LT, anyway.

We can roll the dice and take a risk.

I'd rather waste $11 mill on a potential franchise cornerstone LT, than waste it on someone like Orakpo.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"Let the liked guy who outplayed the expensive new guy, that every camera shot I saw all season was him sitting or standing by himself, go even though he'd cost a lot less and fits our system a lot better.

Posted by: zjfr2"

Similar to my argument about the Chargers franchising Sproles, signing Evans to a long-term contract will cost more than keeping Taylor at an expensive salary for one year.

You think the team is a ways away from competing for a title? You think the team needs to be turned over? The first rule is to NOT overpay for mediocre talent over the long-haul -- especially aging talent.

I don't know what Evans was asking for, but considering his agent is Drew Rosenhaus, I'd bet it's not what he's worth.

Posted by: psps23 | February 23, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what Evans was asking for, but considering his agent is Drew Rosenhaus, I'd bet it's not what he's worth.

Posted by: psps23 | February 23, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse


Considering the decade-long practice of this organization to OVERPAY free-agents who have had their best years someplace else, at the expense of the guys we already have; if Drew did demand something big, it is only because we've set the table for it.

Friggin' incompetent FO in more ways than one.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather waste $11 mill on a potential franchise cornerstone LT, than waste it on someone like Orakpo.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

While I don't love a pick of Smith, I completely agree, if both of them are there we should take Smith.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

psps ... if the Skins do nothing else, they could renegotiate contracts into 2009 and effectively 'write-off' some of the longer contracts. For example, release Jason Taylor and accelerate Jansen's cap hit into that space.

Neither Jansen of Taylor is a long term guy for the Skins. So clear them in 2009 and get the cap space open in 2010 if you don't see 2009 as a good year for FA.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what Evans demands were but they couldn't possibly have been anywhere near what Taylor gets. But frankly, I'd rather let them both go and sign Canty.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"The first rule is to NOT overpay for mediocre talent over the long-haul"

Yup. Bingo. If DE were 25, sure, give him a deal, but 29, I'm not sure what the team is losing if he signs elsewhere....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 23, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

The pFUNK post @ 1:20 sums up this move perfectly. There isn't a need to discuss it any further.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | February 23, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth, Peter King referred to Rey Maualuga as "Ray Lewis, Jr." in his article this morning. I know we have other needs, but if we sign Haynesworth and the top OTs are gone I think we should draft him. LFB is 36. We're gonna need a new MLB sooner rather than later and if PK is right, man, that would be a nice addition to the #4 Defense.

Posted by: countystyle | February 23, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

They just can't bring themselves to cut JT and admit their mistake cost them a 2nd rounder this year.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on Evans though. FA is going to be rough this year, just look at baseball and the winter it just went through. Outside of a few marquee guys, everyone else is going to be available on the cheap. Why not let Evans go out there and find that out and then be able to re-sign him at a discount?

Posted by: Fuzzy21 | February 23, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"just look at baseball and the winter it just went through"

was that not including the nearly half a billion the yanks spent in trying to buy another championship?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 23, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

"if the Skins do nothing else, they could renegotiate contracts into 2009 and effectively 'write-off' some of the longer contracts."

That's an idea and if Vinny could pull it off, bravo. But I can't recall ever seeing that happen before.

Still, the point is that neither Taylor nor Springs should be cut until there is an effective plan for using their cap space. If there isn't, then let them play out the last year of their deal and wait until next season to use the cap space.

Posted by: psps23 | February 23, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

its not so much that I think Evans is sooooooo great, but as long as his price tag was realistic, we should be keeping him over JT. But either way, I don't think our success or failure next year will have anything to do with Evans being on the roster or not. He didn't do anything that special to warrant big dollars, so if that's what he wanted or a starter's guarantee then let him go, that's fine. But it is still ridiculous that they are willing to let him go but want to keep Taylor.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Fletcher is 33, for a few more months

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

this is just dumb...

look, we cant have it both ways... either you cut your overpriced aging talent and get younger, or you keep the same system in place of over valuing the under performing big names... and then extending them or not cutting them when they dont kill us on the cap.

looks like it is the latter.

Posted by: Zeebs | February 23, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"The first rule is to NOT overpay for mediocre talent over the long-haul"


Yeah, b/c overpaying for washed-up talent in the short-run is a much better philosophy.

First, we don't know what Drew demanded, but according to the post, WE DID NOT EVEN MAKE AN OFFER TO EVANS.

Second, in this system we do not need someone who is going to be the second coming of Michael Strahan or Reggie White. We need strong sturdy run-stoppers who can get to the QB from time-to-time.

At 29, Evans is healthy and has been underused most of his career meaning he doesn't have a ton of football mileage on him.

He clearly understands and works well in our system and, by all accounts, is a great teammate.

To not even make an offer to the guy is beyind the pale, unless the FO really really knows something about the FA market and believes they can get him back.

I guess we'll see, but this FO has not earned any benefit of the doubt from me.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

My fault on the LFB age! Not sure why I thought he was 36. Thanks for the edit zcezcest1.

Posted by: countystyle | February 23, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

psps, I kind of agree with you on how Vinny operates. I see what this team is going to go thru over the next few years and look at plans for it.

Vinny sees something else, maybe he does mushrooms

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

and it is not all about cap space this year... even if we dont have people to take JT's place... maybe if Evans was full time starter he could do something... maybe not.

but this cycle has to end

But we are so enamoured with what ifs, even when the performance of those what if's never stack up to the expectations year after year.

DS must not be a good judge of managment...

The steelers are perennial contenders for a reason... Porter wanted too much and was getting old, bye.

Posted by: Zeebs | February 23, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Best defensive end on the Redskins = Prettiest girl at fat camp.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 23, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Look at the Colts with Harrison there not going to spread his contact out even further, or keep him because he is popular he is going to be cut because he is not as effective anymore and he makes to much.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 23, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me you could turn most of these arguments around and conclude Taylor is an excellent investment. For instance, having two outside pass rushers on the field at the same time can stress the defense and permit one to get through to the QB. You could also argue that it's not who starts that counts, it's who plays when. With Evans in the rotation, there will be plenty of time for run-stopping. You could also make a case that Taylor, coming off a year that he admits embarrassed him, will be motivated to finish strong. And give the young bucks (Wilson, Jackson, etc) another season to mature.

It's a judgment call, admittedly. If Taylor tanks, guys like two437 will be all over it. If Taylor succeeds, somebody will figure out how to take credit from Vinny.

That's the NFL for ya.

But signing Haynesworth, now THAT's a gamble. All the talent in the world, and it doesnt' really show until a contract year... makes you wonder what will happen once he gets that big, big check.
Let's hope for the best outcome.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 23, 2009 1:30 PM

I see what your saying, but the players I mentioned (Taylor, Springs, Griffin, Daniels) are built for teams that are WIN NOW. I think we can both agree that the Skins are NOT close to this.

I want the Skins to put a competitive team on the field, but I don't see that happening with the guys listed above as starters. With their ages and injuries they barely see half the games. At some point the FO needs to know when to let your investment go - whether is was a good or bad investment. You release the players I listed and immediately we are $25 million under the cap (including Washington's savings). Not speaking of Haynesworth, but there are other quality guys in FA that can come in and make just as good (if not better) contribution at DE or CB, and be much cheaper than Taylor or Springs.

Posted by: TW0437 | February 23, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Best defensive end on the Redskins = Prettiest girl at fat camp.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 23, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

In this scheme it doesn't matter as long as the truly hot chicks are at safety and DT.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

ORAKPO PULLS A HAMSTRING, TOO
Posted by Mike Florio on February 23, 2009, 12:57 p.m.

The latest casualty of the underwear workouts at the Scouting Combine is defensive end/linebacker Brian Orakpo of Texas.

Orakpo “tweaked” a hamstring during position drills on Monday, and won’t return.

Orakpo told NFLN that he felt a pop, but that trainers told him the injury isn’t serious.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

defensive starters, age as of Sept 1 2010:
J Taylor 36
D Evans 30
C Griffin 33
A Carter 31
??
Fletcher 35
Rocky under 30
Springs 35
Hall under 30
Landry under 30
Horton

that's 3 guys who are 35 or over, plus one LB slot with no one. At risk are Rocky and Griffin, with injuries.

Hall and Evans are FA risks.

The only 3 guys that aren't 'at risk' are Carter (who's way overpaid), Horton and Landry.

Fortunately, the defense has some depth talent. Blades, Rogers, Smoot, Golston (who could be a starter at DT) and Alexander, so its not bleak. But the question is will the Skins have to fill 4-5 holes on defense or 8?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

In this scheme it doesn't matter as long as the truly hot chicks are at safety and DT.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Was that Vinnie I saw scouting at this year's lingere bowl?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 23, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Best defensive end on the Redskins = Prettiest girl at fat camp.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 23, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

lol, aint that the truth

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

'...Best defensive end on the Redskins = Prettiest girl at fat camp....'


But when you ain't got no back up chick, the prettiest girl at the fat camp is the best thing you got.

Evans can play tackle or end--who else on the roster does this? Philip Daniels?

I guess this means the FO truly believes the likes of Rob Jackson or Alex Buzbee can fill in as back up de...or it has its sights set on some free agent pick up who'll get more than what Evans wanted.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 23, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

"Vinny sees something else, maybe he does mushrooms"

haha, with those eyes, could be true.

I personally think Vinny is in job-saving mode, so he's still looking for a semi-successful season next year. Say what you want about Taylor's performance, but he is still the best option the team has over there. Taylor underachieved last year, yet still had as much of an impact as Evans, who overachieved. Even if Taylor inches back to his norm, he's still much more talented than anybody else on the DE roster.

The thing is, I think it's a good thing the team is bringing him back, even if it's for different reasons. It helps ensure there won't be a plethora of stupid FA signings, and it helps ensure there will be cap space going into next season. The biggest thing to me is that next offseason, the franchise is going to have to make a decision regarding its future at the most critical position on the field. If Campbell tears it up, he's going to be paid big dollars, which will make the cap space very handy. If he falters, then he won't be back, and this team will be years away from contending anyway, so any free agents we get from this offseason will be moot. Therefore, IMO, Taylor gives the Redskins the best option at being successful this season, AND he gives the Redskins the best flexibility for their future going into next season.

And that's my main overall point. Until the Redskins know for sure they have their foundation for the future in place, they can't spend any money long term for questionable talents. Keeping Taylor and Springs nearly ensures this won't happen.

Posted by: psps23 | February 23, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo “tweaked” a hamstring during position drills on Monday, and won’t return.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:57 PM

This is eerie. The more you hear, the more he sounds like the next Jason Taylor.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 23, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

learnedhand

'...what he's shown character wise...'

What did Andre Smith show characterwise during the years he was at Bama crushing de's and smothering dt's?

How come what the tape says about his play gets thrown out the window because he gets to the combine and flakes out before NFL people who seem to demand subservient/obedient behavior out of 22 year old kids?

This guy is not a Pacman. This is not like what Warren Sapp went through.

Heck, this isn't even a Randy Moss situation where the cowboys didn't draft him because of character issues and missed out on a pro bowl wideout.

The guy will get into the pro's and the same folks hating on him now will change hats and say they thought he was going to dominate.


Posted by: MistaMoe | February 23, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

offensive starters, age as of Sept 1 2010:

Jansen 34
Thomas 34
Rabach 32
Kendall 37
Samuels 33
Cooley 28
Moss 30
ARE 30
Sellers 35
Portis 29
Campbell 28

The OL is obviously an issue, especially since no one on the squad has shown promise as a replacement. How Moss and ARE age is also important, since both are quickness guys. Sellers is up there, but given his role, he may be able to play longer than most.

Its obvious the OL has 3-4 holes to fill soon. Will the WRs be holes as well and will Portis hold up. Also at risk is Jason Campbell.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

looks like leigh torrance will have some competition for NFL defensive player of the year

Posted by: jonthefisherman | February 23, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | February 23, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

That is a fantastic post and you almost had me at hello. But there's one little problem. This is the NFL, the Dolphins, Ravens, and Falcons made the playoffs last year. The terrible Eagles made the NFC Championship, the freaking Cardinals went to the Super Bowl. I fully agree they have a decision looming with JC. But its not like if he isn't the guy we can't find QB in one offseason and contend as long as the core of the team is sound. Our problem is our core is terrible and it would maybe mean only an extra win or two if Manning or Brady was our QB. Not many QB's have sustained success with a bad oline, the only one I think can maybe do it big ben cause he is almost impossible to take down, is willing to take the hits and stand in no matter what to give his receivers time.

But cutting Springs, Griffen, and Taylor would give us the cap space to sign some young guys on both lines and mixed with some draft picks we could totally rebuild our trenches this year. Then next season Thomas, Jansen, Rabach's contracts can come off the books and you have the flexibility to resign JC who got a season with a good oline to see if he was the real deal or you can go sign or draft another qb. But JC isn't the problem or the solution for this team right now, no qb is. This team needs 7 lineman (both sides combined RT, RG, C, LG, DT, DE, DE) and a LB, and cutting the old guys would let them do some if not all of that, keeping them means at best we get 2 or 3 and another bad year with the same choices next year.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

mo, agreed, Smith has all the talent in the world....what happened at the combine is a blip....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 23, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

psps -- I think you nailed it. Vinny IS in job saving mode. So is Zorn. Success in 2009 is critical for both those guys. Problem is, the short term things that might help won;t be enough to get this team into the playoffs ... and we really need long term thinking

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

psps23,

I don't see much production out of Taylor - primarily b/c he is playing at LDE (not his natural position).

At this point in their careers (age, injuries, etc.) Evans is a much better run stopper and better fit at LDE than Taylor or Daniels. Vinny is making a short-term decision and hoping it pans out for one year by keeping Taylor.

Posted by: TW0437 | February 23, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Adding up the defense and offense, we're looking at a minimum of 6 new starters between now and the start of the 2010 season. But its more likely we'll be around 8-9 new starters and it could be as much as a dozen new starters.

Anyway I look at it, the Skins need to be thinking 'rebuild'. But as psps pointed out, Vinny is thinking 'save job' ... and that conflicts with 'rebuild'.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 23, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

learnedhand

'...what he's shown character wise...'

What did Andre Smith show characterwise during the years he was at Bama crushing de's and smothering dt's?

How come what the tape says about his play gets thrown out the window because he gets to the combine and flakes out before NFL people who seem to demand subservient/obedient behavior out of 22 year old kids?

This guy is not a Pacman. This is not like what Warren Sapp went through.

Heck, this isn't even a Randy Moss situation where the cowboys didn't draft him because of character issues and missed out on a pro bowl wideout.

The guy will get into the pro's and the same folks hating on him now will change hats and say they thought he was going to dominate.


Posted by: MistaMoe | February 23, 2009 2:07 PM

Moe, he was a star at Alabama no doubt. He would probably have to kill somebody before anyone outside of Tuscaloosa knew about his transgressions. Now that he's out of the cocoon, his slip is showing. Do you believe that his combine behavior is an anomaly? I am sure if you were in a position to hire someone, you would pass on the applicant who showed for his interview shabbily dressed and with an "I don't give a sjk" attitude even if he had better grades and internships than the other applicants, especially if you were investing millions of dollars. Someone will certainly take a chance on him and if its the Skins, I know you and others calling for his selection will be sjking on the FO for picking him at 13.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 23, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Typical Vinny move - let a proven true Redskin who still is in prime (29) leave and keep the aging (going on 35) Jason Taylor stay at $8.5M. Not that we should overpay, but not making a push to sign a player who should be our starting LDE next year is astounding...but why did we let Antonio Pierce walk after the 2005 season or Derrick Dockery after 2006? Because we don't take care of keeping our own talent. Evans could have been signed to a contract extension either during last year or prior to free agency.

Evans will be signed as a starter by a contending team who uses a 4-3 defense for a contract with about $5M+ of guaranteed money. Better than to waste $8.5M on Jason Taylor to have another mediocre season. If anyone on this blog thinks Phillip Daniels at 35 coming off a major injury is coming back next year....then we're worse off than I thought.

Vinny needs to be fired before he wastes $15-20M of signign bonus money for Haynesworth as it's pretty obvious the Redskins will be bidding against themselves.

Posted by: wizfan89 | February 23, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

...if he turns out to be a sjk up.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 23, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to say that as the days goes by the more inept these stupid duo of, vinny the "stringy" I can't draft, and his bozo the clown puppet master danny boy, looks. What a bunch of ##!!@@ holes these two are!!The redskins have join the lions, bengals, browns,raiders as the laughingstock of the NFL. Thanks a million. Stupid !@@###!!!

Posted by: joe12341 | February 23, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo “tweaked” a hamstring during position drills on Monday, and won’t return.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 23, 2009 1:57 PM

It's like he's on the team already!

Posted by: mack1 | February 23, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dboog | February 23, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The JT stuff is coming from his people not the Redskins, it was actually a smart move by his agent.

He says of course we are ready to come back and collect 8mil more for doing nothing.

The Redskins have not said they are bringing JT back, so he could still go.

Vinny was on DOC's show last week and when asked about JT coming back gave no anwser.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 23, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 23, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Cindy Boren | February 23, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dboog | February 23, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone has any idea what in the h.... is going on at Redskins Park the team owner seems more interested in making money than winning a Superbowl. Bring in some player who want to play and win.

Posted by: tlj-dc | February 23, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Just like the one you have now I have no experience as General Manager, paid me to run the team. If you want a winner i am the person you need to hire. Who is going to replace Washington, what make you think Taylor will play football, he will play I am hurt just like last year. Hello Catfish 20003

Posted by: tlj-dc | February 23, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Man you can alomost hear JLS's tone in that while ya read it.....Just report the news...we don't care or need your personal feelings on the matter....

Posted by: leevi98 | February 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

So DEvans is the exact type of free agent every other team would want - but the Skins will let him go - and sure enough they'll sign some other guy with D-line and D-end potential and he'll have to take a year or two to learn the system that DEvans already knows and works effectively within. What's wrong with having all three -JTaylor, PDaniels, and DEvans? Did someone somewhere guarantee Taylor and Daniels won't get hurt this year?

Posted by: AsstGM | February 23, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

So DEvans is the exact type of free agent every other team would want - but the Skins will let him go - and sure enough they'll sign some other guy with D-line and D-end potential and he'll have to take a year or two to learn the system that DEvans already knows and works effectively within. What's wrong with having all three -JTaylor, PDaniels, and DEvans? Did someone somewhere guarantee Taylor and Daniels won't get hurt this year?

Posted by: AsstGM | February 23, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse
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Do you happen to know what Rosenhaus was asking for in terms of a contract!!?? Maybe you should start there before making a case for keeping him!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | February 23, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

All we as fans have to do is take a look at the history of this franchise and our own free agents and how we treat them, Ryan Clark,Antonio Pierce,Derrick Dockerey and did I read that they're bringing back Pete Kendall he of the bad knees and selective practice routine you gotta be kiddin me!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 23, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Reading the tea leaves, the Redskins are going to try to patch together their team again this year. They don't have the draft picks to blow it up this year and rebuild the lines. I expect this to come next year. In 2010, Jason Campell, Clinton Portis, ARE, Shawn Springs,Jason Taylor, Andre Carter, Pete Kendall, Jon Jansen, Randy Thomas may all be gone.

Posted by: all_star_0013 | February 23, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking if the suck next year,which they will,that'll be it for Vinny. I really think Dan will cut the cord or boot him upstairs or to the moon..wherever. I can't really imaging these wide receivers doing anything. They were abysmal. Terrible draft,by a terrible GM and owner.

Posted by: ridgely1 | February 23, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

So, let me get this straight....Evans "really stepped up and had a personal best 3.5 sacks". Hmmmmm, 3.5 sacks. I realize he split time, and I realize that he played some DT (where sacks are more sifficult to come by) , however, I would not consider 3.5 sacks a difference maker that requires a break the bank type offer.

Let's not forget , he is 29 yrs old and has been in the league for 7 years. This isn't some 23 yr old who is starting to figure it out. I am all for bringing him back, but let's not make Evans out to be Charles Haley Jr. Let's not bend over backwards to Drew Rosen-whatever.

Posted by: cej75024 | February 23, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"If Campbell tears it up, he's going to be paid big dollars, which will make the cap space very handy. If he falters, then he won't be back, and this team will be years away from contending anyway, so any free agents we get from this offseason will be moot." Dude, you must have found Vinnie's mushroom stash. Campbell ain't going to tear it up, at least not on the field. The Skins need to think ahead to next year's draft and the possibilty of getting Bradford:

1. They need to suck in 2009 which means cutting all the high-priced old farts like JT, Springs, and others. Off-loading Washington was a good start.
2. Play as many young, inexperienced doofus types like Sleepy, Dopey, and Rhino as possible to jack up the suck count.
3. Trade their current draft picks for 2010 picks, preferably to bottom feeders like Detroit, KC and Oak. That way even if the suck count isn't high enough, a package of draft picks can be exchanged for #1.

Once the Skins get Bradford, Zorn's offense will soar like an eagle. Dopey and Sleepy may even turn into half decent receivers.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | February 23, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Let's see Phillip Daniels is older and injury prone, D.Evans is not. Seems like P.Daniels should be the one we're not offering a contract to.

Posted by: 72Redskins | February 23, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

As long as Vinny can carry Dannys ball bag he will always have a job:)

Posted by: mrpjs1976 | February 23, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins team used to be made up of brown-bagger types likeEvans who worked their way up the ladder and did nothing less than what was expected of them day in and day out. Guys like this are the soul of the team and every time one of them goes, it takes away a litte bit more of what has made the Redskins special in the past. Vinny doesn't get this and I am not sure Dan Snyder gets this either. The grass is always greener for them. They have to make a big splash by signing a big name that ends up doing nothing for the team except riding the bench. When the game is really on the line, it's players like Evans that are going to remember the faith the team had in them and they are going to dig deep to make that play. They might not always be successful, but they will always play with their hearts, and any fan of this great game can appreciate that, can get that. Why can't Vinny and Dan get that?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 24, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

This is another example, out of many, many other examples, of Vinny's incompetence. As long as he is in charge the Redskins are doomed to mediocrity. The Washington fans deserve to have a knowledgeable, experienced person in charge.

Posted by: TideSkin | February 24, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Does Antonio Pierce ring a bell? Why do the Redskins consistently screw themselves by letting go a good, productive, but not a big name/cap guy, while trying to keep the likes of Taylor, who was a good DE, but I feel at his age, and ability, over the hill. I live in So. Fl and hear about the Dol-Fans crap all the time. My prediction...Skins will let Evans go, he'll end up in Philly, NY, or Dallas, end up playing against the Skins next year, and of course, as with all Skins cast aways, they come back to have a big day against thier former team! MARK MY WORDS, THIS SHI* HAPPES ALL OF THE TIME!!!

Posted by: eello | February 24, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is NEWEST REDSKIN

http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/

Posted by: C-DubDC | February 24, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

WHY ISN'T RI ALL OVER THIS?????

Citing a "very well-connected league source," Lance Zierlein of the Houston Chronicle reports that Albert Haynesworth will sign with the Redskins at the start of free agency unless the Titans swoop in late.

Zierlein, the son of Steelers OL coach Larry Zierlein, has a blog at Chron.com and does a radio show. His source says Haynesworth will get a deal totaling roughly $100 million that pays $15-16 million annually. Zierlein doesn't usually report and it's hard to see how the Skins will fit him under the salary cap, but this is the kind of megadeal Haynesworth is seeking. Feb. 24 - 1:44 pm et
Source: Houston Chronicle

Posted by: godiva2 | February 24, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Who is Demetric Evans? who cares if he is a free agent have people seen his stats?

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | February 24, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

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