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First Things First

Don't forget to join Tracee Hamilton and Jason Reid as they dissect the Redskins win Monday morning at 9:30 a.m. on First Things First.

By Washington Post editors  |  September 13, 2010; 6:30 AM ET
 
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First thing First?

How bout dem Cowboys.....

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 13, 2010 7:00 AM | Report abuse

Oh and secondly...

AH was terrible last night. Pushed around and manhandled. The entire DL was terrible. Trade AH and 99 today.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 13, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse


First thing First?

How bout dem Cowboys.....

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 13, 2010 7:00 AM |

They are LOSERS diesel, how bout that!!!!

Don't look to be hearing from tampax, 10peterbilt, MrIrvin88, DallasintheDMV, BlueStarOintment anytime soon. LOSERS!!!!!


Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't pretty but Skins won. Week one against Dallas I c an go for that!

Still can't get offense going. Season after season, why is that so much more diificult here than other places.

I think they had better get DT involved in the game plan. Skins are getting in there own way with this. Please use the people you have on your roster. I wrote last week,"why is okay to assume Joey Galloway will be fine after showing nothing in the preseason?" How do you defend this now? He's going to have to show why he is on the team and starting!

Posted by: gmac78 | September 13, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Where is Mrirvin, 10peterbilt, and pampa?? Oh yeah, they are COWARDS. Months of boasting and predicting the Cowboys win by 20 points, who are the dumbasses now?? They better show up sometime today.

Someone should find their posts predicting how they'll dominate us and post them... just for the fun of it :)

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Also it was HILARIOUS seeing all the dumb cowgirls fans celebrating like they won the superbowl after roy williams caught the ball... until they realized there was a penalty!! LOL!!

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In DC for My Cowboys game tonight. Gonna be a lot of sad faces tonight in this area. Lol!!

The only sad face in this area was Lebron james'!! well and all the cowgirls fans from virginia too.. losers!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

You knew they would make themselves scarce this morning Rachel.

Posted by: MColeman51 | September 13, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Someone should find their posts predicting how they'll dominate us and post them... just for the fun of it :)

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2010 7:19 AM

Wow. You spend weeks chasing them off the blog and now that they're gone you want to read their posts again. Here's an idea: If it would be fun, why don't you do it?

Now that you got rid of those guys, why don't you work your Rachel Magic on Albert_Haynesworth?

And...

HALL to the Redskins!

Posted by: beep-beep | September 13, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse


Hessone? what a sore loser. Your team in undisciplined, overrrated, and plain and simple, will continue to choke all year long. I said as much last week. New coach, new QB, new offence, new defence, whinny AH and we still won??? HA!!!!. U suck. Where's that DMV or whatever loser? He said he was going to post here on Monday even if his cowpies lost.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 13, 2010 7:14 AM |

mustang_johnny1's got the blues !!!!

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Barron sucks, and the Dallas media will probably lay the loss on him -- but the dude had to hold to keep Romo from being planted like a tent stake. Watching the replay, there was absolutely NO doubt that Orakpo would have taken him down hard. There were no good choices for Barron, and I think that 9 out of ten NFL O-linemen make the same foul when they're being dominated like that. There's always the slightest chance that the officials don't see it or don't choose to call it on the last play of the game. The Dallas fans need to lay the blame where it belongs -- on Wade Philips and Jason Garrett.

Somebody -- about a thousand posts back, graded the special teams with an "A". I think they forgot about Bidwell's muffed hold and the 27 yd duck he fired out of the end zone.

I've defended Doughty in the past, but now I REALLY hope Kareem Moore is ready to go soon.

Posted by: Shadowskin | September 13, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

We can win this thing 13-7 given the way the defense is playing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 12, 2010 10:02 PM


But do we want to depend on the defense to win all the time?

No.

At some point, the dropped passes, over throws, and blocking miscues will end, and we'll see efficient Redskin offense.

We should beat the weaker sisters on our schedule.

But until Team Shanahan gets the offense going, the Redskin D will have to carry the team on its shoulders.

BTW: a game ball must go out to L Landry.

Dude is off to what might be a Pro Bowl-type season.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 13, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Secondary played it’s a$$ off led by Laron “Captain America” Landry and D. Hall.

Posted by: camp_fodder | September 13, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

"I've defended Doughty in the past, but now I REALLY hope Kareem Moore is ready to go soon."


An understandable complaint.

And I wonder shy C Horton wasn't given more on field time in his place as, if you noticed, it seemed that just about every player on the roster played last night.

And that is a great thing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 13, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse


I am a diehard Cowboy fan and I occassionally lurk on this Insider board to see what's going on with the Redskins and usually have a good chuckle or two when you guys rip Cowboys fans and each other for any perceived slights against the Redskins.
Now is the time for me to speak because I can only take so much of you guys forgetting who you are (in my profession we call this "selective amnesia", which your mother termed "wishful thinking").
Are you aware of the facts that your team is the laughingstock of the entire league, your coach was fired in Denver and you guys still let him name who the GM was going to be for the Redskins (a big no-no), your quarterback was on the verge of being waived in Philadephia before being traded, your prized defensive lineman is a dog (none of you dispute this), your offensive line makes a sieve look solid, your running backs' 40-yard dashes are timed with a sun dial (with the exception of Parker, who won't even make the team)and your owner is, to be kind, clueless? That list is too much to overcome. Take the blinders off and see!
Get yourselves ready for Sunday night, September 12 when a real team comes to town, takes over your stadium, your big videoscreens and your wives (don't worry they'll give them back when they're finished), and then heads back to Texas without breaking a sweat. You know women love Cowboys, don't you?
There's my input and I'm glad I got that off my chest.
We will always defend the Star.
Posted by: BigBlueStar | August 12, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep: I just want them to eat crow.. that's all. But don't worry, they're not going to show up anyway.

I would love to get rid of Albert_Haynesworth but I don't think he's going anywhere.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse


moe,

I thought Haynesworth got pushed around last night. Didn't really see him double teamed. Think he played 16 snaps. Not standing with the defense at the sideline meeting says it all.

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse


Hessone? what a sore loser.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 13, 2010 7:14 AM |

Uh, look at the scoreboard, moron.

Another handle with a line seperating the names. Look familiar to you ?


Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Ugly win, but a win none the less, offense looked zorn-esque, gonna have to get many more guys involved in that other than Moss/Cooley..get Davis/Armstron/Thomas involved in catching passes, and get LJ/Williams many more carries..that #30 was the guy that the team has been waiting for since they drafted him....TWilliams, looked like a S T U D...that cat can play...

where the DHall haters this morning....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Kareem Moore get well soon; Doughty was the weak link of an outstanding defensive performance. This is a good win, but the Skins O has to score more than 6 points to beat the Texans.

Posted by: bernard_thompson | September 13, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Oh and laconfora swings and misses on another one, "AH will be deactivated"...thats strike 28....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

"I've never seen that happen," said Cowboys coach Wade Phillips. "We score a touchdown and then get a penalty and the game is over. I thought they grabbed our guys several times trying to get to our quarterback but I guess they didn't."

-Wade Phillips

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Wow he really is that stupid. They shouldn't of called holding on Barron because we got away with some holds? That was one of most obvious holds ever. But keep finding excuses, sore losers... if the Cowboys are as good as they claim to be then the game should never have gone down to the last play.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

bt, agreed, Reed is a special teams player, and not much more....putting him at safety is just dangerous....saw a lot of Steph Heyer last night....any updates on that??

I'm worried about this DL against a team with a good offensive line.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

The Cowboys will do their part tonight to free you from your inherited/taught sickness.

Revised score (Jerry's feeling charitable):

Cowboys 27
Redskins 10

Warmly,
Joe

Posted by: PampaTex | September 12, 2010 4:53 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

"I thought Haynesworth got pushed around last night. Didn't really see him double teamed. Think he played 16 snaps. Not standing with the defense at the sideline meeting says it all."

Your observations were highlighted by Cris Collingsworth who also noticed that the cowboys' center and guard where winning one-on-one battles with AH.

AH must 'man up' at the point of attack, hold his ground, and not make himself an easy mark by taking a side that allows him to get blocked out of position.

And I'd rather point out that despite his foolishness--because that's what it is--the overall run defense responded when Dallas attacked its edges to the wide side.

(We have to again thank Jason Garrett for giving up on the run game. Had the 'boys' decided to play smashmouth, I wonder about the outcome. Barber was getting nice yardage.)

Prince Al is going to be who he is--and that seems to be a petulant, selfish fat kid on his own very small playground.

But given the defense's overall solid performance, we can succeed without him.

Let the trade talk continue.


Posted by: MistaMoe | September 13, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

It's a new day, and last night it showed. But both teams leave a lot to be desired. Board-hands defensive backs, and offensive line wrestlers are not going to move either team into the upper echelons of the NFL in 2010.

I like the looks on the defensive side of the ball from JIM HASLETT's tutelage and predicted during the game that by the end of the season, the d would be really tough.

I think the offense will still be weak until the REDSKINS get another TRENT WILLIAMS. He really showed up for a rookie. And DONOVAN McNABB is so much better than SOUP I can't even describe it.

The REDSKINS get a C+ in my book compared to last season; better, but quite a ways to go. Absolutely, they are headed in the right direction. Now if I can just live long enough to see the fruits of their effort, I will be estatic.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 13, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse


I'm worried about this DL against a team with a good offensive line.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:09 AM |

Greg, how about the formations with one or no defensive linemen ?

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

".......There's my input and I'm glad I got that off my chest.
We will always defend the Star.........."
Posted by: BigBlueStar | August 12, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, yeah, yeah. SEZZE you.
BTW, how BIG is that chest cowgirl? DD?

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 13, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, why isn't Devin Thomas on the field opposite Tana?

He did more than Galloway in the preseason and he had two nice KO returns last night. Galloway was useless on the other hand.

Devin is the Skins best blocking WR and he probably would have scored on Jenkins off one of those fade throws from Don Burgandy.

Posted by: elfreako | September 13, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

usually read but dont usually post...but im still happy from the W. Couple thoughts...offense was still mediocre. Trent Williams more than held his own against Ware. Laron Landry and D. Hall played their azzes off last nite. Orakpo too even tho he was held everytime he was gonna get a sack. Doughty should not be at FS and Andre Carter didnt do anything at all. Also, Gano looks like a real kicker. There's definitely stuff to improve on but...a W is a W. especially against Dallas.

Posted by: nami322 | September 13, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Helluva game last night!

Cowboys offense had more passing yards, yards rushing, first downs and time of possession than the Redskins. Your offense had more big plays.

Our offense scored a TD. Your offense made two FGs.

Our defense was in position to create turnovers and came up empty time and time again. Your defense forced a fumble and turned it into six points. Ballgame!!

Again, helluva game. Hats off to the Redskins for taking advantage of everything we gave you. We had 12 penalties and the refs probably could have called us for for 20. Barron panicked on that last play and the ref made the right call. No excuses!

Btw, it figures when Roy Williams finally makes a play, it doesn't count!! Not LMAO!

Peace, Y'all.

Posted by: MrIrvin88 | September 13, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

O and Devin Thomas was a BEAST on kick returns. He's gonna take one to the house. I would love to see them throw him a screen pass or something.

Posted by: nami322 | September 13, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

hess, it was somewhat effective, but then, if AC/Rak go down, we're galactically screwed for an outside rusher...Can't get over how good I thought that Landry looked...and how CRogers had a chance to close out the game, and for the BILLIONTH time, his hands failed him...

2011 2nd round pick needs to be a center...Rabach was getting ragdolled last night....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: MrIrvin88 | September 13, 2010 8:24 AM |

Good analysis. Suprized, you are a man of your word. Have a good one.

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

"I've never seen that happen," said Cowboys coach Wade Phillips. "We score a touchdown and then get a penalty and the game is over. I thought they grabbed our guys several times trying to get to our quarterback but I guess they didn't."-Wade Phillips"

This from the coach that basically gave the game away with a bonehead call at the end of the half.

Sometimes an interfering owner can get away with a subpar head coach who lets him do whatever he feels like (Barry Switzer) -- but I'm guessing Jerry Jones can't do it twice.

In Philly, plenty of argument this AM about the team's decision to let Stewart Bradley re-enter the game after a stunning blow to the head sent him reeling off the field like a drunken sailor. The Iggles are the club with the forward-looking concussion policy, remember, that they appeared to drop like a hot potato when it involved one of their key players. They did the same thing when Kevin Kolb got his bell rung (although less severely than Bradley.)

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Helluva game last night!

Cowboys offense had more passing yards, yards rushing, first downs and time of possession than the Redskins. Your offense had more big plays.

Our offense scored a TD. Your offense made two FGs.

Our defense was in position to create turnovers and came up empty time and time again. Your defense forced a fumble and turned it into six points. Ballgame!!

Again, helluva game. Hats off to the Redskins for taking advantage of everything we gave you. We had 12 penalties and the refs probably could have called us for for 20. Barron panicked on that last play and the ref made the right call. No excuses!

Btw, it figures when Roy Williams finally makes a play, it doesn't count!! Not LMAO!

Peace, Y'all.

Posted by: MrIrvin88

GFY MrIrvin88.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 13, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

1. Hail to the REDSKINS!

2. Carlos Rogers can't catch to save his life.

3. Get healthy Kareem Moore because Reed Doughty is terrible in coverage.

4. Trade Andre Carter is he accepts it because he is wasted in a 3-4.

5. No sacks for Orakpo but he drew 3 holding penalties.

6. McNabb inspires confidence in the whole team, finally a leader at QB.

7. Devin Thomas had a nice night on special teams, he needs to get reps at WR, Galloway gave us nothing. (1 target, 0 catches).

8. Cooley was open on both attempted Armstrong fades in the endzone, need to let that develop more.

9. Kyle Shanahan is a great playcaller.

10. Ballsy move by Shanahan to kick a field goal from 48 yards, but Gano has played well, very nice to see. Bidwell on the other hand.....

Posted by: saltine182 | September 13, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

beantown

"I'm worried about this DL against a team with a good offensive line..."

You mean you worry that someone will look at the tape of this game and say, "Let's run it at them until we can't stand it."

Yeah, I got that worry too as some team with C Johnson is on the schedule.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 13, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

I am not a fan of the 1 DL package (known by many names UFO 1-6). Not sure what we call it, but I don't like it.

But here is my summery in 10 points.
1. Love gold pants look
2. Love the W against the Dbags
3. Love the defense overall, a few flaws but they look good.
4. We need a 2nd WR, and really a 1st, Moss drops way too many balls.
5. We need to find a legit ILB, RMc and LFB are good LB's but way out of position.
6. What was with all the attempts to Sellers?
7. Where was Fred Davis?
8. Need to work on the Goal Line offense, RUN THE BALL!
9. Whatever we can get for Haynsworth is probably worth it, just doesn't fit the system.
10. No BIG runs by Portis, but that was a lot of consistent running to control the clock, and thats what I like.

11. Bonus point, Good God I am Glad that Football is Back!

Posted by: alex35332 | September 13, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

My question was about the running game -- would the Skins be able to run when they needed to, and would they be able to stop the Dallas rushing game when they absolutely had to? This AM the answer has to be: sort of.

Shanahan has been preaching a different dogma when it comes to running -- that is, not to worry about the stubby gains, a couple long runs will even it out at game's end -- that's the way Walter Payton and Barry Sanders worked, I know -- but I'd love to have some confidence we could pick up a third and two whenever we needed one.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

samson, SBradley was knocked the bleep OUT...cat did a face plant into the turf after he got up....

WHERE IS EVERYBODY this morning.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

"I wasn't following AH closely, but it seemed every time the announcers said he came in, the redskins got a big stop."

Wow, I must have been watching a different game but I thought he sucked.

He played on the drive where Dallas scored a TD, kept trying to do that stupid "swim move," and took himself out of the play every time.

After that he didn't play the rest of the night.

I don't ever recall them getting a big stop whenever he came in. Dude just can't play to the scheme and does what he wants. He keeps trying to penatrate when he should be holding his gap and he takes himself out of the play.

"That's silly. AH got pushed around by the Cowboy's center pretty easily. And, the one camera shot of him set apart on the sideline from the rest of the Defense spoke volumes."

Exactly. He'll be dumped by the end of the week, I guarantee it.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

A few thoughts about last night:

-Carlos Rogers drops another one, but plays good coverage.
-Reed Doughty sucked on ice last night, running around looking lost.
-Orakpo might not get as many sacks as we originally thought, but he'll cause a lot of holding penalties.
-Galloway was non-existant last night, did he even suit up???
-Why are we not taking advantage of Cooley/Davis mismatches that could take place all over that field?
-Albert Haynesworth should be in the Guinis Book of World Records for the largest baby, the way he pouted and looked angry away from everyone else, must not have gotten his 12:00 nap yesterday.
-Considering McNabb hadn't played in 3 weeks and his ankle not 100%, looked pretty good.
-Casey Rabach's nickname should be Ratliff's B*tch, cause he was dominated and used all night.
-Why in the 1st Half did I see Lichtensteiger and Heyer playing with the first team offense, are they rotating offensive linemen throughout the game like D-Linemen??? Is Artis Hicks showing his age, maybe Brown's hip is not as healthy as we thought?

I could write more, but I don't want to get yelled at for posting too much. But it is a great morning. Somehow everything is better: the air smells fresher, haynesworth looks skinnier, and the Cowpies are gayer!!! HTTR

Posted by: monk811 | September 13, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Super Bowl talk in Dallas appears to be on hold... http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/091310dnspotaylorcol.ea5cb6b3.html

My favorite quote:
On the game's final play, Barron put a chokehold on Brian Orakpo that would've made wrestling superstar John Cena proud, negating Tony Romo's apparent 13-yard touchdown pass to Roy Williams.

It was Barron's third penalty.

While Marion Barber leaped on Williams' back, knocking him to the ground, and Miles Austin joined the celebration, Washington quarterback Donovan McNabb spotted the yellow hanky on the ground and thrust both arms in the air.

Posted by: AdamCr | September 13, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

GFY MrIrvin88

POST OF THE DAY......

I thought that the D was vulnerable on the edges...Dallas seemed to get good yards running to the sidelines....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Landry was all over the field last night. Thirteen tackles and four assists. McIntosh and Fletcher had big games too. That defense is looking like they will produce turnovers as long as they can keep up that sort of intensity.

I am not sure there is anything that can be done to teach Rogers how to catch. There is no reason why sellers, armstrong, and whoever else dropped multiple balls last night, should be let off the hook for screwing up like that. Real sloppy.

What a game. I knew the skins were going to win this one...all the pieces fit.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 13, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse


In Philly, plenty of argument this AM about the team's decision to let Stewart Bradley re-enter the game after a stunning blow to the head sent him reeling off the field like a drunken sailor. The Iggles are the club with the forward-looking concussion policy, remember, that they appeared to drop like a hot potato when it involved one of their key players. They did the same thing when Kevin Kolb got his bell rung (although less severely than Bradley.)

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 8:32 AM |

Whoa, I can't believe the NFL. The Lions were rob of a TD. If that's not a TD......

Also, after all the head injury talk during the offseason, to let Bradley back into the game is letting a guy with a concussion make the decision to play. Kolb should had been taken out of the game after he was slammed. WTF?

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Where's all those PUNKASS Cowturd F_cks???

F Y'all D-bag fans!
F Dallas!

Get use to getting F'd all season long.

K. Brooking is the biggest WWE wannabe maggot I've ever seen... embarrassing.

Posted by: bhoang888 | September 13, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

The Good

* Winning. Period. Especially an ugly stinky win like that, b/c you can bet that Cowgirls will want to make all kinds of excuses, whine, moan and complain but at the end of the day they get a nice "L" tacked onto to their chump-arsed star as we kick them out of town.

*Haslett exploiting weaknesses on Dallas' Oline. I said it before and I'll say it again. For all the broo-ha about Dallas's skill players, they took a step back on their Oline. Alex Barron is all the busted human holding-machine that we thought he was, and Haslett moved around Rak to exploit that, especially on the last play.

*DHall. Where are all the mf'ing haters now? DHall gets a spot in Skins-'Girls lore with that strip-6 play. Money.

*Gano. Hitting a clutch 49-yard field goal RIGHT DOWN THE FRIGGIN MIDDLE like that with the game on the line? Yeah, baby.

*DT on kickoffs. Runs with power, vision, speed. It's a great niche for him while he works into the offense.


The Bad

*Reed Doughty. I said it going into the game that he would be a weak link in the secondary. He is not athletic enough to play safety in this defense. He was a step late to the plays in the secondary; and the Austin TD was squarely on him when he got sucked into the play action.

*Albert Haynesworth.

*Cris Collinsworth. Another network company-man in the hype-tank for the 'Girls. He finally conceded at the end of the game for a brief moment, that maybe the Cowpies aren't as good as folks thought they were. Until that point, I thought that Wade Phillips' mom was in the booth doing commentary and maybe she just had a slightly manly voice.

*Josh Friggin' Bidwell. Good grief. Is Derrick Frost still out there? Maybe we can give Durant Brooks another look? WTH happened to Hunter??

*Joey Galloway. Someone said he started last night. I watched the whole game and cannot confirm that he ever played.


The Ugly

*Cowpie play at the end of first half. Ugly play-call. Ugly Romo-improvisation. Classic CowChoke. Love it.

*Drop-22 with another highlight reel non-interception at a clutch moment in the game to fail to seal the win.

*Our offense overall. I hate to say it, but there was very little difference between last night's offense and the offense we watched last season. No big plays in passing game, McNabb had Campbell-esque #s, QB under pressure, very few running lanes and Portis falling forward for 2 yards every carry with no burst at all...C'mon Shannys...let's get it together.

*Cris Collinsworth close-up in high-def. Scary.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

First of all: HTTR! F_Dallas!

Congratulations Mike Shanahan for the win. It was obvious what team was the better coached out there and my hat is off to you. Now here are some personal pleas:

-Get Kareem Moore well quickly and look for another free safety because Reed Doughty is not a free safety. He made at least three key errors last night - one that gave up the touchdown - and that kind of stuff can't go on with a winning team.

-Joey Galloway disappeared last night. Move Armstrong up there.

-Armstrong had some drops. This is the kind of thing that Zorn would have benched a young player for, but come on: he's young and it was big game. Keep feeding him the ball and he'll get it. He's going to be our second best receiver by the end of the season.

-Having said that, you need a big receiver for the fade. Armstrong just isn't big enough to outmuscle a big defender for the ball. I recommend lining up one of the tight ends outside and having him run it, or using DT in that capacity.

-Any chance you might run about a billion snaps to the kick holder tomorrow so they can re-learn how to hold onto the ball? This is trademark Danny Smith: excel on punts/kickoff coverage and then drop the ball - literally - when you need the points. In all fairness to Danny Smith, I thought DT did a good job returning kicks, Gano did a fine job, and coverage units - as usual - were pretty good.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 13, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

9. Whatever we can get for Haynesworth is probably worth it, just doesn't fit the system


An unsecured internet bet says that if AH is not traded, his play will suddenly change if the team's overall prospects improve.

In so many ways, AH is like the morning football show prognosticators who all took the time to explain why the redskins would lose--and were so wrong.

He thinks "Redskins" and acts like he is with a losing, clueless organization, and thus, is not compelled to go along to get along.

Winning and solid play in losses will change how he and other people perceive the team.


Posted by: MistaMoe | September 13, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse


WHERE IS EVERYBODY this morning.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:41 AM |

Redskins home page still displaying last thread. I posted a link to this thread for our brethren.

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

monk, they need to stop throwing the ball to sellers, and start giving DYoung some reps, cuz Sellers appears to be DUN...dump galloway as well, and pick up the WR from the Packers practice squad....WOW, I've had too much coffee.....

hess, agreed, shame on the NFL for that call...he had 2 feet down, then his backside....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

re eagles qb:
love the controversy. hope it continues all year. who do we want playing for the eagles, kolb, or vick? vick sure looked good...if you're an eagles fan. loved kolb's first half stats...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 13, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

merry christmas, redtards fans!

how do you like your gift-wrapped win?

see you candyassed b!tches in cowboys stadium.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 13, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

HAIL!!! Beating Dallas always is a great thing man.

Still got a Woodrow from last night, might not have been pretty, but any win against Dallas is worth Celebrating!!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | September 13, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

"-Galloway was non-existant last night, did he even suit up???"

Tell me about it.

He suited up, but I am thinking the Redskins are going to make a play for Vincent Jackson sooner then later.

Cooley and Moss CAN'T be the only weapons this team has this year or they are going to win a lot of games. Dallas took away Cooley the second half and dared Moss to beat them.

Portis had a HUGE hole in the 4th quarter that a few years ago he would have broke for a TD, but last night he barely got past the line of scrimmage. All he had in front of him was a safety, but he stumbled for 4 yards or so. At this point in his career he is a 3rd down back at best.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

merry christmas, redtards fans!

how do you like your gift-wrapped win?

see you candyassed b!tches in cowboys stadium.

Posted by: 10peterbilt
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Typical.

Posted by: AdamCr | September 13, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

how do you like your gift-wrapped win?

Its GREAT...how do you like gagging on that loss...haha...suck it...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse


hess, agreed, shame on the NFL for that call...he had 2 feet down, then his backside....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:54 AM |

I still haven't heard the explanation as to why the Lions TD was not a TD. It's beyond football logic. Has anyone heard the excuse ?


Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Look, give Rogers a mulligan on the drop. Most corners could not have even gotten that high to get their hands on the ball. The dude was sky-scraping with that leap. Rogers just isn't going to be the team's interception leader. Pigs can't fly, politicians can't stop making empty promises and Carlos Rogers can't catch. What I saw out of Rogers, though, was a guy who was playing his butt off. Not to take anything away from Landry, who had a really nice game, but he was able to make those plays near the line of scrimmage because the corners were doing their jobs. All in all, I though Landry, Roger sand Hall played very well. Doughty is miscast as a free safety.

One to think about: the team is blessed with a wealth of strong safeties but surprisingly short on free safeties who have to be depended on to provide better pass coverage. Moore will be back, but history shows he will be injured again. I will lobby here for the biliionth time that the team should be looking at teaching Barnes or Rogers the free safety position.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 13, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Damn what a lovely Monday morning!!!

Beans, everyone is still trying to gather themselves from last night... I know I am.

Redskins "Suck of the game" on offense goes to Sellers and Rabach. Good grief, Rabach got dominated. All Ratliff was missing was the leather pants with the ass cut out and the cat o' nine tails.

And please DO NOT throw Sellers any more passes. Devin Thomas should've had those looks.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 13, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

He suited up, but I am thinking the Redskins are going to make a play for Vincent Jackson sooner then later.

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 8:59 AM

Not happening. We have no use for him. He can't get completions out of McNabb's one-bouncers. Even Jason Campbell (69.7) had a better QB rating than McNabb yesterday (63.4).

Posted by: beep-beep | September 13, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

red, agreed, rabach needs replacing...

how about DHall last night...he had a great game...wonder if that erases the missed tackle on Delhomme from last year??

Houston is gonna present a number of problems...MWilliams is a beast, and they need to slow down Schaub...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"Has anyone heard the excuse ?"

Gotta completely come down with the football, that's the rule. Plain and simple. This means the ball can't pop out like it did.

But my friend said something in relation and I agree. All "runners" have to do is "touch" the line of scrimmage and play is dead, even if they fumble the ball afterwards. It's a TD, the play is dead. Thy can also be in the air when this happens, hense a QB/RB jumping over the pile.

The Lions guy clearly had possession but he braced himself with the ball and it popped out of his hand even after catching it, after falling on his backside. It's not like he did not have control of the ball, he clearly did.

The interpretation of the rule was correct however, but it was poor judgement. They really need to look at that rule again.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Hessone, sorry my man. I misread your post thinking you were a cowpie fan but it was a post from blue star. My bad. I am a die hard skins fan. Where's that loser Blue star anyways?

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 13, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

jc had 2 fumbles as well.....

pft was saying that Minny was the team that was angling for VJ....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Still got a Woodrow from last night, might not have been pretty,

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | September 13, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Thinking of your Woodrow definatey ain't pretty. Almost made me sick, but we beat Dallas, nothing can ruin my mood today!

Posted by: monk811 | September 13, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

34:03-25:57 Time of Possession

380-250 Total Net Yards

24-17 First Downs

all are ways Skins were outplayed last night

However the numbers I prefer from last night?
13-7
HTTR!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 13, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse


10peterbilt = holding # 71 offense, game over.

It must be so depressing on the Cowboy boards that 10peterbilt is desperate for any kind of attention.

Hey ass lips, were you celebrating a win when the ref said these words.

he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

the team should be looking at teaching Barnes or Rogers the free safety position.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 13, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse


Right. Let's have Carlos Rogers primarily responsible for those deep patterns and coverages in the secondary. That's playing to his strengths...

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

"Not happening. We have no use for him."

I'll bet you a salami sandwich they do!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I still haven't heard the explanation as to why the Lions TD was not a TD. It's beyond football logic. Has anyone heard the excuse ?


Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 9:01 AM

Everyone I've heard -- including the Lions' coach -- said that it wasn't a catch under existing rules. Talk has focused on how to change the rule so that it would have been a TD. Here's Pat Kirwan as well as the discussion on NFL.com:

http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story/09000d5d81a7d2c0/article/hardluck-lions-got-robbed-by-rule-that-defies-logic?module=HP_cp2

Posted by: beep-beep | September 13, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

"Look, give Rogers a mulligan on the drop."

Tell me you aren't serious with that, RSH. Haven't we BEEN giving Rogers mulligans for dropped picks?

He played well last night, save that one missed tackle where he failed to wrap the guy up. But a mulligan for that pick to end the game? A mulligan he deserves not!


10pb, nice to see your screen name this morning. Yes, we'll take the gift wrapped win. The question is: Are you going to take the RI schlong down to your tonsils?

Assface! Go suck and sulk in the wake of the Cowcraps LOSS, deucheface!

Posted by: RedDMV | September 13, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

monk, they need to stop throwing the ball to sellers, and start giving DYoung some reps, cuz Sellers appears to be DUN...dump galloway as well, and pick up the WR from the Packers practice squad....WOW, I've had too much coffee.....

hess, agreed, shame on the NFL for that call...he had 2 feet down, then his backside....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 8:54 AM
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Sellers is not a pass catcher, but I don't think that is a news flash. Teams leave him open on passing routes because they know this. They should sneak Cooley back there occasionally to keep teams guessing. I don't think Young is ready to start yet, but I believe he will be before the season is over. He just needs to pick up all the nuances of the position.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 13, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Was gonna say Silverback vs. D. Ware will be a great matchup for years but not sure if ware's defective neck will hold up long enough. LJ's tree trunk legs knocked that F_cker out cold.

F Dallas!

Posted by: bhoang888 | September 13, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Some thoughts:

1. I hate Carlos Rogers. Was he really upset about his tender initially?

2. Our D-Line could be suspect against better teams. Really didn't get too much pressure on Romo, looked vulnerable around the edges on runs.

3. Was Jim Zorn the offensive coordinator last night?

4. Where is Devin Thomas?

5. Where was Fred Davis?

6. DHall and LL -- game ball boys. Way to bring it.

7. Trent Williams is gonna be a BEAST.

8. We played a C- game overall and got a win in week one against a division opponent at home. Even though I thought we showed alot to be concerned about, I'll take it!

Posted by: mattylight | September 13, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Props to FatIrving for showing up, though I wouldn't quite call that 'eating crow'. I remember eating two really big crow pies last year - so step it up.

I'm sure everyone's done it already - but how about 'favorite moments'?

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 13, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

"Not happening. We have no use for him."

I'll bet you a salami sandwich they do!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 9:13 AM

Ray, Vinny's gone. These guys aren't chasing after other teams' problems and they're not spending a bundle of Dan's money for someone like VJ.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 13, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

K. Brooking is the biggest WWE wannabe maggot I've ever seen... embarrassing.

Posted by: bhoang888 | September 13, 2010 8:50 AM

I thought that was a joke. Then he kept going. Then it got really akward.

Posted by: saltine182 | September 13, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Big Question:

Anyone see any difference at all from our offense last night compared to our offense from the past 2 years?


I didn't.


But I'll take the "W" of course...

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

4. Where is Devin Thomas?

5. Where was Fred Davis?

Agreed, gotta get these cats involved...can't just be the Moss/Cooley show....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Beans, I was up here last night hyping up DHall's performance. Him AND Landry were just awesome.

17 tackles? Are you f-ing kidding me, Laron?


Looking at various message boards the Cowfu*k fans are taking this loss really badly.

"BUT I LIKE IT!!!"

Posted by: RedDMV | September 13, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone figured out why Miles Austin was wearing lipstick last night?

Posted by: saltine182 | September 13, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Re: Rabach

They are always saying how smart he is, and how important it is to have a smart center that can make pre-snap calls at the line.

I wonder how important it is to them to have a center that can actually play center in those post-snap moments?

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse


Hey Hessone, sorry my man. I misread your post thinking you were a cowpie fan but it was a post from blue star. My bad. I am a die hard skins fan. Where's that loser Blue star anyways?

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | September 13, 2010 9:11 AM |

Sounds like something I'd do.

We call Blue Star, BlueStarOintment. Put him on your crotch rot.

Is brownwood ok ? He must be hungover or something.

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Burgundy and GOLD!

Posted by: alex35332 | September 13, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Seller's suckiness should not just be attributed to his drops, which were many, but the dude got thrown around last night while he was trying to lead block. Didn't he make the Pro Bowl a couple years back, was it really THAT long ago??? Was that a mistake?

Last night was one of those games that coaching and good Dfense made the difference. I think we are better than last year, on so many levels, but with the win aside, we have a ways to go. We are at least 3 or 4 players away to have a decent front in the 3-4, we need a Center that can stand his ground, and our backfield needs to be tweeked. I'm not even mentioning our receivers, that's another story.

Posted by: monk811 | September 13, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

"I think they had better get DT involved in the game plan. Skins are getting in there own way with this. Please use the people you have on your roster. I wrote last week,"why is okay to assume Joey Galloway will be fine after showing nothing in the preseason?" How do you defend this now? He's going to have to show why he is on the team and starting!
Posted by: gmac78"

DT certainly didn't show much in the preseason. Lot of folks around here were speculating he'd be cut.

My guess would be Shanahan went with vets at WR and on returns because it was the first game of the season and he suspected (based on experience) that there would be a lot of mistakes. Usually the defense is still a bit ahead of the offense at this point and that was certainly true for both clubs last night.

Looks like he was right, or very lucky.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

http://www.thedallascowboyshow.com/2010/09/13/romo-heckled-by-good-ol-redskins-fan-during-interview/#comments

During Romo's post game interviews, you can hear some yell "How bout them Dallas Cowgirls? Ahggahahghaga"

And the dude is wearing a burgundy shirt.

Posted by: saltine182 | September 13, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

"Ray, Vinny's gone. These guys aren't chasing after other teams' problems and they're not spending a bundle of Dan's money for someone like VJ."

They tried to trade for him just last week, no reason they wouldn't still try.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

It's funny, and again a win's a win and I'm not complaining, but I never minded seeing McNabb bouncing passes at his receivers feet for 10 years in Philly. Suddenly he's doing that for us and next thing I know I'm watching the 4th quarter with a bottle of Pepto next to me...

Posted by: mattylight | September 13, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Observations.

It was nice to see CR22 in mid season form last night.

Doughty is always 1 step late in coverage.

That punter sucks. I'm glad I don't know his name.

Landry was a beast last night but, for the love of all that is holy, stop flexing after stopping a guy 15 yards downfield.

Trent Williams is legit. Ware gave him some problems but he definitely held his own without much help.

Armstrong has to make one of those catches in the end zone. It was nice to see they have confidence to go back to the same play, but you gotta reward that confidence.

Gold pants are the shizzle.

Casey Rabach is the weak link on the o-line.

This team has to stick with the run longer.

Jason Garrett has pictures of Jerry Jones in compromising positions with a sheep. It's the only explanation.

Haynesworth needs to go.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 13, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Not that it matters to many up here, but Uniwatch (the website dedicated to the nerdom of uniform obsession) had this to say about our new home uniforms.

"There was a lot of uni-notable football action this past weekend, but they saved the best for last: the Redskins’ long-rumored gold pants, which made their debut in last night’s game against Dallas. Even better, the pants were paired with magnificent striped socks. Add it up and all of a sudden the ’Skins have one of the best home looks in the league."

Posted by: alex35332 | September 13, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"Anyone see any difference at all from our offense last night compared to our offense from the past 2 years?I didn't.Posted by: p1funk"

Oh, I think I saw improvement. Think back to how it looked the first game last season. And that was in the second year of that scheme. They still don't run the ball particularly well, but on that last drive, were able to put together some rushing plays that served the purpose.

Be interesting to see how they do against a hot offensive club like Houston. Especially given the Kyle Shanahan connection.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

They tried to trade for him just last week, no reason they wouldn't still try.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 13, 2010 9:26 AM

Rams tried to trade for him last week.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 13, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | September 13, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Anyone whose hey-day was in the '70's is going to think those unis (esp. the pants) are the shizzle.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS,THIS JUST IN:THERE HAS BEEN AN APB ALERT ISSUED FOR PAMPERTEX,MR.IRVIN88,PETERBILT10 AND DALLASINTHEDMV.IF YOU SEE THESE PERSONS,LAUGH LIKE HELL AT THIER STUPID ASSES.
Really just 2 questions fellas.1)When did Stone Cold Steve Austin start wearing #71 for you guys and 2)Has he taught the rest of your lineman the Stone Cold Stunner?We tried to tell you your line sucked major ostrich ass during pre-season but you chalked it up to"these games dont matter".We Skins fans are experts when it comes to recognizing a fcuked up o-line,and trust me,your line is FUBAR.Now get the hell on.

Posted by: smittdiddy | September 13, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Houston is gonna present a number of problems...MWilliams is a beast, and they need to slow down Schaub...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse
___________

Not only that, but their RB, who I've never heard of, ran for 231 yards yesterday. Colts run D blows, but still. Someone here (might have been you, Bean) said that dallas was getting some good yardage with the runs around the edges. I agree, and if you noticed, this was a problem throughout the preseason as well. It makes me wonder if our LBs are having trouble in this scheme given that the 3-4 alignment obviously changes who's blocking them. Don't know if the Texans guy is an inside runner or a shifty speed guy, but if we let him run wild and have to deal with Andre Johnson, that could spell trouble. I think Schaub mediocre and the beneficiary of the system and the personnel, so I think the RB and Johnson are the keys. Thoughts, anyone?

Props to that Irvin88 guy - at least he was a man and showed up with an accurate, calm analysis. Can't say the same for the rest of the trolls.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 13, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

lol - Alex w/ the Fashion Update.

Yeah, I noticed it too, though. I can see a strategic reasoning, however. White pants (our usual match to the burgundy jersey) could mesh with the Dallas Uni's.

Hey -- wahtever beats Dallas.

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 13, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Armstrong has to make one of those catches in the end zone. It was nice to see they have confidence to go back to the same play, but you gotta reward that confidence.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 13, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse


Armstrong needed to catch that first one. It was there and he straight bobbled it.

I hated the play call to go directly back to that same play the second time.

The second call should have gone to Cooley or Davis in that situation.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

merry christmas, redtards fans!

how do you like your gift-wrapped win?

see you candyassed b!tches in cowboys stadium.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 13, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

You mean the same way you took that gift-wrapped win last year in the Hole in the Roof Stadium??? We dominated you all game, and on the last play you luckily pull it out. See how it feels??? F-Lebron James and you "tiny"peterbilt

Posted by: monk811 | September 13, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

DT certainly didn't show much in the preseason. Lot of folks around here were speculating he'd be cut.

Not to nitpick, but DT was 2nd/3rd on the team in receiving during preseason, and he wasn't cut, so..lets use him...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Ugly, ugly win last night, but it was against the 'Girls. Now that MrIrvin88 and 10peterbilt have been paged, we're still waiting for PampaTex to inject some vitriol despite a typical undisciplined 'Girls team performance. Wade Phillips is incapable of coaching a Super Bowl bound team.

The 'Skins still have WAY too many parts out of order. Two early timeouts in the 3rd quarter only means that our offense will probably struggle much of the season.

Our receiving core, minus 'Tana and Captain Chaos, is a worry. Tight ends will thrive so we need to get Fred Davis open.

Despite a 3.5 average, Clinton showed us he can run with 15-18 yard scrambles in the 4th, which helped keep the Dallas offense off the field. LJ had a bad run where he was pushed out of bounds in the 4th, but he came back with a 2nd effort run, which resulted in 9 yards. Sellers needs to show the pass-catching hands that he showed in the past. His blocking is suspect too. On DWare's injury, that was a missed block by Sellers; we were lucky on that play because DWare's injury was a momentum shifter.

Pass protection was decent (good enough for DMac), but run protection needs to be better. Casey wasn't. Ratliff bull-rushed him a couple of times, and he drew a penalty. Trent didn't dominate, but he played well enough against an All-Pro.

Defense: what is there to say? They saved our butts. Our secondary actually looks legit. Dirty 30 feels right at home at SS; I love what he said how he felt about the victory: "Tremendous." Short and sweet. DHall was the game MVP. This defense exploits the 'Skins' talents, something which was lacking under Blache, and DHall and Landry showed it last night. Orakpo draws the penalty to win the game; this is why he went to the Pro Bowl.

Special teams was good: Devin Thomas is great on the kickoffs. We were pinned the entire again with terrible field position, but he gave us two great returns. He could have had 2 TDs. He will take some to the house. I hope Graham Gano becomes the next Jason Elam under Shanahan. His kicking continues to impress; however, his kickoffs were short.
Special teams was bad: our punter sucks. Our long snapper and holder suck. Do we need Red Snapper back? We should have had at least 16 points.

Now on to Houston. I don't think we'll win. Our defense is better than the Colts', but Schaub and that offense is way too disciplined and good.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | September 13, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

A few comments:

Offense:

-I don't believe Galloway was targeted even once. This is a problem, unless Shanahan didn't want to reveal too much this early.

-Armstrong was unimpressive. I really think we need to find a way to get DT11 on the field as a WR.

-Some long seam routes for Davis might have been good, when both he and Cooley were on the field. Or even some looks for Davis - was he even thrown to? Again, maybe Shanahan isn't showing everything yet.

-Not much running room for Portis. Granted Dallas has a strong rushing D, but the O-line needs to run block better and I think they will.

-The o-line was solid in pass protection for the most part.

Defense

-Rogers still can't catch. His late INT chance would have ended the game. At this point, it is what it is I guess.

-Haynesworth and our run D were below average I thought. There were big holes for Dallas at times.

-Hall and Landry were huge.

Special Teams

-Great burst and vision for DT11 on KR.

-Bidwell tried his best to choke the game away for us.

-Good job by Gano. Would like to see some deeper kickoffs.

Posted by: quinn3 | September 13, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Again, helluva game. Hats off to the Redskins for taking advantage of everything we gave you. We had 12 penalties and the refs probably could have called us for for 20. Barron panicked on that last play and the ref made the right call. No excuses!

Btw, it figures when Roy Williams finally makes a play, it doesn't count!! Not LMAO!

Peace, Y'all.

Posted by: MrIrvin88

GFY MrIrvin88.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 13, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Yep, MrIrvin, you showed a lot more class than the real 88.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 13, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Houston is gonna present a number of problems...MWilliams is a beast, and they need to slow down Schaub...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:09 AM

Do ya think that Kyle might have a few ideas about how to defend against Houston?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 13, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I think I saw improvement. Think back to how it looked the first game last season. And that was in the second year of that scheme. They still don't run the ball particularly well, but on that last drive, were able to put together some rushing plays that served the purpose.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse


Where did you see improvement?

*DMac was under alot of pressure and had Campbell-esque #s.

*No big plays in the passing game, and only Moss/Cooley make catches.

*Few running lanes to work with; Portis falls forward for 2 yards and has zero burst.

*Our only visit into the redzone was a disaster that resulted in 0 points and no passes to our vaunted tight ends.

*Lots of 3 and outs.


The only saving grace was that they were able to rip off a few 6-8 yard runs in the 4th quarter to keep chains moving when they needed to.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Big Question:

Anyone see any difference at all from our offense last night compared to our offense from the past 2 years?

I didn't.

But I'll take the "W" of course...

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:20 AM
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They moved the ball on the Dallas defense which was a top five rated defense last year. Dallas was blitzing almost the entire game and the offensive line only gave up one sack. On third and long they didn't settle for the underneath pass that didn't yield a first down. If you don't see the improvements, then you might have missed last night's game or missed last season. If you need a refresher course on what last season's offense looked like, I suggest you watch the Raiders next weekend.

Here's the thing about the offense: it is going to get better. Cooley and Moss were "go to" guys last night, but soon, third and fourth options will emerge. We didn't hear from Fred Davis last night and they absolutely have to start getting him involved in the passing game. Trent Williams made a few rookie mistakes last night but the cat is clearly a player. He is going to get better and better, as will the rest of the offensive line as these guys start to trust each other more and more. I have faith that Shanahans junior and senior have a plan for this offense that has not been fully rolled out.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 13, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Whatever Devin Thomas has to do to get on the field, he needs to do it, ASAP. Armstrong can stay on the roster, but not the #1 target in the endzone....TWICE....

And no offense to Doughty, Kareem Moore needs to get better and come back.

And even though the Defense is to be credited, they still got their issues....the whole defensive line.....

..And don't let other teams put Orakpo/Carter in coverage....EVER...

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 13, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"Now on to Houston. I don't think we'll win. Our defense is better than the Colts', but Schaub and that offense is way too disciplined and good"

Have faith it's the NFL, Skin's are playing varsity ball now, and who knows texan's weakness better than K. shanahan.

Hail!

Posted by: bhoang888 | September 13, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Special teams was good: Devin Thomas is great on the kickoffs. We were pinned the entire again with terrible field position

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | September 13, 2010 9:33 AM

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Typo: game not again.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | September 13, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Coach said I'm still on the team. I am sad.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 13, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Well Thomas needs to get on the field more, got to say he did a great job on KR duties.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 13, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Love the win, patient about the offense, concerned about our WR corps, impressed with the defense for now. Remember that Rabach that was up against one of the best NTs in the game--his struggling there was surprising. Still, I think we need to get younger and stronger with our o-line interior.
Top three draft picks for us in 2011:
WR, C, NT or LB.

Posted by: pgugino | September 13, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

If you don't see the improvements, then you might have missed last night's game or missed last season. If you need a refresher course on what last season's offense looked like, I suggest you watch the Raiders next weekend.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 13, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse


I watched the whole game last night and I watched all of last season.

See my post @ 9:37 and tell me how my eyes deceive me.

It was basically a replay of last season's game against Dallas in Dallas.

The only difference was a big defensive play by DHall, Gano actually hit a FG, and Rak exploited Barron to salvage a win on the last play of the game.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Wade Phillips. The gift that keeps on giving...

Posted by: mattylight | September 13, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Great vision in bringing McNabb to the Skins. I saw a difference last night at the QB position...Still a JC fan but leadership is what I noticed on the field and that's a big difference from years past.

Posted by: camp_fodder | September 13, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

There was no difference between this years and last years defense....

DHall was DHall.

The Girls should have exploited the run game more....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 13, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

4th, agreed, I'd have run Barber/Jones/Anyone else until they passed out....run D for the skins needs to be fixed....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

We know Carlos Rodgers can't catch, but he still is an above average corner who had his side of the field/assignments on lock down last night. Dirty30/DHall and Ole Ham Hands were huge last night and that was WITH the negative help of Reedy D (K-Moore come back!!!!!)

Also I think its time to say its not all "scheme" that Cooley/Moss get passes make plays...its because of the utter LACK OF TALENT BY ANYONE ELSE!!

Armstrong are you kidding me? Galloway should be cut by wednesday, Roydel who?

I don't think DT#11 is starter in this league but I think its time to let him try it on for size this year. And while yes Fred Davis should get more looks, we heard his name on a mental mistake penalty and a missed block.

And without Moss/Cooley last night we don't win...they both had some huge first downs, had big numbers and drew double teams...there good thats why they are involved....we need more good players and they are just not on the roster right now.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 13, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Wade Phillips. The gift that keeps on giving...

Posted by: mattylight | September 13, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse


Alex Barron. The gift that keeps on holding...

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse


I said I'd show up and take my medicine if we lost, but let's be clear about something: You heathens don't really think the Redskins won last night, do you?

As much as it pains me to say it--the Cowboys choked. Spit the bit. Threw up all over their jerseys. Maybe Wade Phillips does listen to Al Green's Greatest Hits on his headset because he damn sure wasn't paying attention last night!

Enjoy our loss because you sure as hell can't say you won. That's about as positive as I can be about the Redskins without getting nauseous.

DC sucks, Pampa rocks and most of you soiled your couches last night when Roy Williams caught that go-ahead touchdown. You F'ing know you did! Try Depends diapers next time.

Harshly,
Joe

Posted by: PampaTex | September 13, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

If you don't see the improvements, then you might have missed last night's game or missed last season. If you need a refresher course on what last season's offense looked like, I suggest you watch the Raiders next weekend.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 13, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse


I watched the whole game last night and I watched all of last season.

See my post @ 9:37 and tell me how my eyes deceive me.

It was basically a replay of last season's game against Dallas in Dallas.

The only difference was a big defensive play by DHall, Gano actually hit a FG, and Rak exploited Barron to salvage a win on the last play of the game.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I gotta agree. Last night's offense looked Gibbs-esque -- Portis 3 yard run, play action pass to Cooley or Moss. Rinse and repeat. We're gonna have to get ALOT better if we actually want to think about the playoffs this year...

Posted by: mattylight | September 13, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

OMFG! I still can't believe that last play happened!

Trying not to nitpick but lil shanny had a Zorn moment last night on 2nd and 3rd and goal. I can understand the 2nd down call but to call the same play for the same guy was sophmorish. When you got 26, 89, 47. Other than that no complains whatsoever.
Loved Landry, rakpo, 5, 26, 47, 71, 23, gano, haze-let, shanny sr., devin Thomas on returns

Posted by: dealer1 | September 13, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 13, 2010 9:47 AM

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Absolutely right about the run game. Getting away from the run game showed the ineptitude of the Dallas coaching staff. Barber and Jones were averaging 4.8 yards, but they only ran 16 times.

Our own run game wasn't working, but we stayed with it and milked the clock. Clinton was reward with that big 15 yard run

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | September 13, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 13, 2010 8:58 AM

Big surprise. Not exactly the manly response you goofballs continually promised you'd have today when your team lost. Just think, you wasted MONTHS posting on another team's fan board. (I couldn't imagine spending one second on a Bovine Cartel site.) That's got to taste almost as bad as the L the Skins hung around your team's neck last night. Make sure you take the burgundy and gold dress we made you wear last night to the cleaners before returning it. Your kind of stink is hard to ignore.

Posted by: MColeman51 | September 13, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

What, no comments on how rHomo gave us the game again? hehehe.

And Takes10Peters needs to shut that crow eatin' pie hole unless he has somethin' nice to say. Show some respect, boy, when your elders are talkin'.

Typical Cow-hole, all excuses and no accountability.

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 13, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

"Big Question:

Anyone see any difference at all from our offense last night compared to our offense from the past 2 years?

I didn't.

p1funk

ummm...much more competitive offensive line, a QB who could sense pressure and get ball out quick. Picking up enough 3rd downs to keep defense fresh, renewed energy from Moss/Portis/Cooley, more mid range completions, more confidence in game plan (albeit without results/execution....yet)

Posted by: chrislarry | September 13, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

And lil shanny called an awesome game except for that gafe.

Posted by: dealer1 | September 13, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

ummm...much more competitive offensive line, a QB who could sense pressure and get ball out quick. Picking up enough 3rd downs to keep defense fresh, renewed energy from Moss/Portis/Cooley, more mid range completions, more confidence in game plan (albeit without results/execution....yet)

Posted by: chrislarry | September 13, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I get where you're coming from, but we scored 6 points. Not good.

Posted by: mattylight | September 13, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

DEAL!!! Sorry about your lions bro...sux...

"Enjoy our loss because you sure as hell can't say you won"

Not to feed the trolls, but, was it a tie? I mean, are both teams 0-0-1 today??

Shows you how simple some people are....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

It was basically a replay of last season's game against Dallas in Dallas.

The only difference was a big defensive play by DHall, Gano actually hit a FG, and Rak exploited Barron to salvage a win on the last play of the game.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

The Oline play was better. I thought that the final drive from the Skins was something we didn't see all year last year. The offense finally at least took shots down field. Other than that, same dropped passes at crucial points, same dropped ints, same nonexistent running game by enlarge, same drive killing penalties. Lots of work to do, but it's better than a loss.

Posted by: TWISI | September 13, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I said I'd show up and take my medicine if we lost, but let's be clear about something: You heathens don't really think the Redskins won last night, do you?

As much as it pains me to say it--the Cowboys choked. Spit the bit. Threw up all over their jerseys. Maybe Wade Phillips does listen to Al Green's Greatest Hits on his headset because he damn sure wasn't paying attention last night!

Enjoy our loss because you sure as hell can't say you won. That's about as positive as I can be about the Redskins without getting nauseous.

DC sucks, Pampa rocks and most of you soiled your couches last night when Roy Williams caught that go-ahead touchdown. You F'ing know you did! Try Depends diapers next time.

Harshly,
Joe

Posted by: PampaTex | September 13, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Love guys like you. "Well, you can't say you won!" Wah wah wah...

When I look at the standings today, we'll be 1-0, and you'll be 0-1. It wasn't a bad dream, we did beat you. Have a great day...

Posted by: mattylight | September 13, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Ditto on the bleacher comments but in addition here is what I saw..

1) Fat Al being double teamed free-ed up Kedrick Golston who played well, making tackles, chasing down runners all over the field including way down field to jump on the pile and making some plays.

2) Westbrook showing why he is a Special Teams All-Pro on downing the ball on the ONE

3) Nose Tackle Kemohatu stuffing the middle at least one time, that was good to see.. I was not sure he had fully recovered his strength. I think he will get better with time...

4) Corners taking on lead blockers on the edge,sacrificing their bodies so the LB could clean up.. missed the number but probably it was CR 22.. great play

5) Fletch and Landry showing speed and power at the sidelines.. you can't teach that...

6) Portis is STILL the best blocking RB in the NFL.. dude is UNBELIEVABLE..

7) Lorenzo making tackles on Special Teams and bringing the heat on passing downs.. I could not see how that helped RAK but it probably looked good on film

8)Fat Al did not show me much and I watched him more than I should..

9)Stretch play blocking by O-line was starting to be effective at the end as the DL got tired.. not sure who looked especially good in run blocking but kudos to the group

Posted by: iseyij | September 13, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

ummm...much more competitive offensive line, a QB who could sense pressure and get ball out quick. Picking up enough 3rd downs to keep defense fresh, renewed energy from Moss/Portis/Cooley, more mid range completions, more confidence in game plan (albeit without results/execution....yet)

Posted by: chrislarry | September 13, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse


Not sure how you gauge a "competitive" Oline. TW did okay against Ware for a rookie, but Ware definitely was bringing pressure most of the night. Rabach was getting owned by Ratliff. We didn't open up any running lanes until they started calling cutbacks in the 4th quarter.

Our defense played balls-to-the-wall, but they were not fresh at the end of the game. Seriously, if Barron doesn't screw the pooch with that holding call, we probably lose on an 80-yard march down the field.

Moss/Cooley always bring it; they always have. Portis didn't look any bit refreshed. No burst. Didn't make any tacklers miss. Goes down on first contact.

Posted by: p1funk | September 13, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse


Depends diapers next time.

Harshly,
Joe

Posted by: PampaTex | September 13, 2010 9:56 AM |

And you can stick with your tampax, LOSER of the last place Cowboy's !!!!

Posted by: hessone | September 13, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

The coaches will tell us DT was behind AA and Galloway in OTAs which dictated the preseason depth chart.

But DT's impact in the actual game is what can't be ignored. The other team's 2nd or 3rd best corner will get out muscled and out hustled on a substantial number of snaps.

Does anyone here honestly think he would have no catches if he started last night?

Posted by: elfreako | September 13, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Thoughts on the game:

*MOTM: DHall

This is the man that we were expecting when shelling out a $56 million contract. Excellent in coverage, phenomenal in tackling, and made that one big play. He played worthy of 1st team all-pro status yesterday. Absolutely brilliant.

*Runner-ups: Brian Orakpo and Trent Williams

Orakpo showed single-handedly why the transition to the 3-4 was a brilliant move by Haslett and Shanahan. Orakpo was shifted around all game until it became glaringly obvious in the second half that Alex Barron had no business being left alone with Rak. He drew 3 holding penalties that would have been sacks on Romo, as well as initiated at least another false start. He was a menace out there.

Trent Williams, on the other hand, was facing arguably the toughest assignment possible for a first career start in the NFL as a LT. Ware beat Williams once, but more important that the single sack given up was the fact that Ware hardly sniffed McNabb for the rest of the contest. There was certainly plenty of pressure coming from the interior and on exotic blitz packages, but in the 1 v 1 matchup of Ware vs. Williams, Williams decisively won that battle. We got the real deal, here folks. And that block in the first half on the Cooley screen....wow.

* The lone weakspot in the secondary was Reed Doughty. Landry was a machine on the field, Hall we've already recapped, and Rogers looked every bit a 1st round corner he should be (sure he missed the pick, but I think we've all come to realize that he's not going to convert difficult turnovers). This secondary with the pressure created by the front 7 could easily be a top 5 defense. If Kareem Moore is what he was looking to become in training camp, this secondary will be scary.

* Looks like the WR issue will be here well into the season. Moss and Cooley are still monsters, but everyone else....who knows. I hope to see Devin Thomas more next game. He played excellent on returns, and the play of the other WRs may have given him another opportunity to earn his spot opposite Moss.

* Josh Bidwell, what happened? I hope that was just an off night for a veteran punter. Terrible punts and a muffed hold...ugh.

Posted by: psps23 | September 13, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Your Washington Redskins 1-0

Dallas VagBoys 0-1


Next year, we need to draft a bigger center. Rabach got his arse served, owned, crushed, etc.

When it comes to picking up the blitz, I still love Portis and how he goes all out.

Oh, and trade Haynesworthless for anyhting at this point(or at least a 3rd rounder)

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | September 13, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

why do our coordinators always get so discouraged with the running game? Even if its not reeling off huge chunks, I think its better to try to impose your will. I saw a couple of posters who did not like the two fade routes to Armstrong. Include me. Why not LJ behind Sellars for 1st and 2nd down? Then 3rd down is less predictable if 3rd down is necessary.

Defenses are always pinning the ears back and going gung ho blitzing us like last night. Thats why they should run more. Anyone else get nervous everytime our QB drops back for any pass?

Posted by: gmac78 | September 13, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Ever notice how Cowpie fans believe something is true just because they hear each other saying it.

All Cowboy fans think Romo is elite. He must be.

All Cowboy fans think the Girls are "America's Team". Hmmmm...must be true.

All Cowboy fans just take it as known fact that Jason Garrett is an offensive genius and the heir apparent to Phillips. I hope they keep believing this.

Posted by: MColeman51 | September 13, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Where's Hate?

Posted by: Spanglerg | September 13, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

believe me i hate to complain after a sweet win but y isn't anybody talkking about bidwell he blows... cost us 10 points with a bad hold and 36 yard punt leading to score

Posted by: patljr7 | September 13, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

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