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Posted at 2:00 PM ET, 12/28/2010

Football Insider Live: Jags recap, Giants preview and LaVar's flag football game with the troops

By Washington Post editors

Rick Maese joined Cindy Boren, LaVar Arrington and host Jonathan Forsythe on this week's webcast to talk about Sunday's overtime win, LaVar's USO trip to the Middle East and what to expect from the season's final game.

You can also download the podcast of this show or subscribe to the podcast.


By Washington Post editors  | December 28, 2010; 2:00 PM ET
 
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Comments

I'll watch this...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I'll watch this...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse


This is a University of Maryland graduate talking. Guy doesn't have anything to do with his time now that he's spent all his December food stamps.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I'll watch this...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 2:06 PM

Sounds like a nice story but...

I'm not watching this.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm with PA, not watching this.... plus I have not spent all of my food stamps for Dec.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Srry, PA - I was inside joking w/ myself! Something about ridiculous rhetorical questions and how they're funny.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 1:55 PM

Ahhhhh...but seriously now...what are playoffs? haha

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I have not spent all of my food stamps for Dec.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 2:12 PM

You would have if you could cash them in at the tequila store.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse


playaction listens to opinions, mulls over options, does what he wants to anyways

have a haiku day play

Posted by: hessone | December 28, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

D-Mac's credibility took a nose dive recently because

(1) I think Kyle is telling the truth (why would he lie?) when he says that Donovan refuted some of what that jackhole agent said in his statement, and Donovan has now flip-flopped; and

(2) The idea that Donovan's bow tie-wearing, jackhole agent wrote all of those things WITHOUT Donovan's input and comment is ludicrous. Donovan is the jackhole's meal ticket. You're telling me the jackhole went out on a limb all by his lonesome? No way. Jackhole's don't do that.

(3) Donovan has hired a jackhole of an agent who is so stupid that he (i) believes he is a brie and chablis sophisticate; and (ii) thinks he is clever with his stupid little rant about Donovan's benching; and (iii) claimed to have signed Donovan to $40 million guaranteed, which turned out not to be true.

These reasons, combined with poor play, poor pratice habits and a failure to grasp the team playbook, are why D-Mac will be lucky to be ANYWHERE in the league next year.

Posted by: ktp70 | December 28, 2010 2:00 PM |

POST

OF

THE

F U C K I N G

YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I'll watch this...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

This is a University of Maryland graduate talking. Guy doesn't have anything to do with his time now that he's spent all his December food stamps.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 2:09 PM

I haven't watched one since they started shoving these down our throats every Tuesday for the last YR. It's a play on PA's,"I'm not watching this" weekly line.

You must have returned from Guatemala and inhaled too much of that volcanic sand at Monterrico Beach. F Duke

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Have a boycott day, He$$.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 28, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

haha, that is the problem beep...but I can get a few limes...

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Where the f*ck are my food stamps!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

No thanks.

I'll just pretend I heard that now-fatass LaVar Eclairrington (or DoveBar Arrington) say "knowimsayin" or "nohediint" about a dozen times while taking up about $1000 worth of air-time trying to make up for the last thing he just said (Kevin Sheehan does that all the time too).

Glad to speak to the win over the 'Jags:

- Went on the road with a patchwork D and took it to a team fighting for a playoff birth with a QB that's been in the top 10 of the LEAGUE all year.

- Stuck with running the ball in the 4th quarter for a change.

- I am officially in the 'trade Cooley' camp. With Davis' abilities and Cooley potentially bringing in a 3rd rounder, trade his ass.

- This team is not at all playing out the schedule/mailing it in.

I'll say it again, that's coaching, son.

BAM

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

- Went on the road with a patchwork D and took it to a team fighting for a playoff birth with a QB that's been in the top 10 of the LEAGUE all year.

- Stuck with running the ball in the 4th quarter for a change.

- I am officially in the 'trade Cooley' camp. With Davis' abilities and Cooley potentially bringing in a 3rd rounder, trade his ass.

- This team is not at all playing out the schedule/mailing it in.

I'll say it again, that's coaching, son.

BAM

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Co-sign. BAM!

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 28, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Rex's performance over the past coupla games pretty much sounds the death knell for McNabb's tenure in DC..No way they keep his big salary floating while they bring in the new rook QB..get some comp, 137, 42, etc.

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"- Went on the road with a patchwork D and took it to a team fighting for a playoff birth with a QB that's been in the top 10 of the LEAGUE all year."

And WTF is up with losing all the time at home??? RFK was a feared site on any other team's schedule, haven't been to FedEx in a hell's age, but I'm sure it's the enemy fan filled, overpriced misappropriation of funds that it's been since the Danny Age began..PRODUCT, DANNY, PRODUCT, it ain't Kraft's Patriots , that's fer damn sure..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I just found Fletcher Smith's linked in Photo: HERE

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cooley for a 3rd? Highly unlikely.

First off, if Boldin with a year remaining didn't get a 3rd, Cooley won't. Second, probably the best option is to essentially let him walk after '11, at which point we could qualify for a compensatory selection.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 2:49 PM

Outrageous. Ostentatious. Outstanding.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 28, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't think we get anything for Cooley. There's too much talent available out there.

We should keep our producers, IMO. But if the guys making the system think they don't fit... go with that.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Rex's performance over the past coupla games pretty much sounds the death knell for McNabb's tenure in DC..No way they keep his big salary floating while they bring in the new rook QB..get some comp, 137, 42, etc.

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 2:39 PM

Even with his career high 4 TD outburst, Rex's performance this year is around his career norms:

Career (36 games):
TDS 38
INT 39
COMP% 54%
RTG 70.2

Skins (2 games):
TDS 5
INT 3
COMP% 53.9
RTG 77.4

In other words, nothing special. Backup quality. And pretty comparable to McNabb this year:

TDS 14
INT 15
COMP% 58.3
RTG 77.1


Next year we may get what Shanahan promised at the beginning of this year: a true QB competition... although it sounds like McNabb dazzled Shanahan in pre-season and would have won the competition in practice anyway.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I just found Fletcher Smith's linked in Photo: HERE

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse
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*click*
..........
♫ Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down ♫

WTF? Seriously?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

If the panthers draft luck there FO must have hired cerratto for consulting

They grabbed 2 qbs last year!!

No way they grab another, they will trade out

To whom is the question???

I say the highest bidder n that's usually us

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | December 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I just found Fletcher Smith's linked in Photo: HERE

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 2:49 PM |

HAHAHAHAHA!

"This is the worst of my many public humilations."

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Santonio Holmes coulda been had for a 5th....

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | December 28, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

"Santonio Holmes coulda been had for a 5th...."

Draw dropping steal by the Jets...Any other pothead stars out there that we can steal??

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Did we have 5ths to give? I seem to remember us being REALLY low...

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Even with his career high 4 TD outburst, Rex's performance this year is around his career norms:

Career (36 games):
TDS 38
INT 39
COMP% 54%
RTG 70.2

Skins (2 games):
TDS 5
INT 3
COMP% 53.9
RTG 77.4

In other words, nothing special. Backup quality. And pretty comparable to McNabb this year:

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Agree, which tells me how awful DM5 really has been this year. I mean having Rex Grossman type numbers- no wonder he was benched.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Did we have 5ths to give? I seem to remember us being REALLY low...

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 3:13 PM

We were set...with Roydell Williams and Galloway.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Agree, which tells me how awful DM5 really has been this year. I mean having Rex Grossman type numbers- no wonder he was benched.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 3:14 PM

Agreed. But what does that say going forward? The guy we traded away is doing better than any QB we have, and he was younger than all of them. It looks like we took a step backwards at the QB position this year.


Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Cindy!!!! You're BACK! (By which I mean turn around and face the camera)

Posted by: dcsween | December 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I just found Fletcher Smith's linked in Photo: HERE

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 28, 2010 2:49 PM |

"If the offense is too hard......trade him to the 'Cards."

"If his interception total spikes.....trade him to the 'Vikes."

"You put the balm on? Who told you to put the balm on? I didn't tell you to put the balm on. Where the hell'd you get that damn balm anyway?"

The Maestro.

"The WHO?"

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. But what does that say going forward? The guy we traded away is doing better than any QB we have, and he was younger than all of them. It looks like we took a step backwards at the QB position this year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:22 PM |

Dude no sh-t we have been saying for weeks that the trade for Mcnabb was a mistake, I think everyone agrees including Mike Shanahan.

You move the f-ck on and stop mentioning it everyday, you draft a young QB and make your own good QB. The starter at the begining of next year will not be the future starter for this team.

Since it seems to me you want Shanny gone please tell me your solution moving forward.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Where the f*ck are my food stamps!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 2:21 PM |

I stole your food stamps

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 28, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. But what does that say going forward? The guy we traded away is doing better than any QB we have, and he was younger than all of them. It looks like we took a step backwards at the QB position this year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:22 PM

Huge mistake to start his (MS) tenure here in DC. My guess is that MS and KS thought they could work wonders with the talent here and that DM5 leadership and skills would get this turned around sooner than later. Their ego set us back this year.

But it also may have been the best thing that happened to them by forcing them to rebuild and hopefully they were humbled some by these two mistakes (DM and AH). If that is the case, then I can deal with their big headed blundered start of their tenure here.

Plus I am not wanting to play revolving coaching staff anymore.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Dude, that 'Skins beat reporter, Chris Russell is a freaking no-talent. His voice alone makes me want to choke someone. I wish Steve Czabean would knock his yam-aka off and slap him repeatedly about the facial region.

He'd predicting the Panthers to beat the Falcons next week and the Cheifs beating the Patriots because of a few coaches and Matt Cassell knowing everything Bellichek.

I think the prognosticating monkey would have done better than that loser.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Flounder21:
"Dude no sh-t we have been saying for weeks that the trade for Mcnabb was a mistake, I think everyone agrees including Mike Shanahan."


Actually, I've been saying it was a mistake from Day 1. Glad you finally caught up!

Flounder21:
"Since it seems to me you want Shanny gone please tell me your solution moving forward."


The mistake has already been made. Might as well let Shanny implement his plan now so this team can finally get some much needed continuity, but don't let him trade away too many draft picks over the next few years. I don't expect him to be more than a 0.500 coach here. But he can be our Jack Pardee for the next Joe Gibbs.

The real question is, how long will Snyder be patient with him? I hope Snyder has at least 2 more years worth of patience, and I hope he's more creative than chasing The Next Shiny Object when he picks the next head coach--hopefully someone younger with a lot of potential rather than someone who has already peaked, been fired, and is back on the market.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The mistake has already been made. Might as well let Shanny implement his plan now so this team can finally get some much needed continuity, but don't let him trade away too many draft picks over the next few years. I don't expect him to be more than a 0.500 coach here. But he can be our Jack Pardee for the next Joe Gibbs.

The real question is, how long will Snyder be patient with him? I hope Snyder has at least 2 more years worth of patience, and I hope he's more creative than chasing The Next Shiny Object when he picks the next head coach--hopefully someone younger with a lot of potential rather than someone who has already peaked, been fired, and is back on the market.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:39 PM |

That I can agree with I think Shanny will get his full 5 years here and I guarantee you he will be better then .500. Hell we have the 2-3 worst talent in the NFL and have 6 winbs should have been 8.

Thats good coaching!!!!!

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

sween, your back! By which I mean, howdy.

This food stamp discussion is uncomfortably close to the ongoing "points" discussion we had up here a while back. Man, that went on forever.

What I'm trying to say is, while I don't care for tequila myself, I think those who do should be able to use food stamps for it. Especially since I'm pretty sure you can use food stamps for soda and other junk food, the kind of crap that is destroying our nation's health.

Booze >>> junk food

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Alan, I agree. There's a big difference between not being impressed with shanahan THUS FAR and wanting him fired. I don't think many rational people are in the latter camp.

Posted by: AdamCr | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I think the prognosticating monkey would have done better than that loser.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:39 PM

May I borrow the monkey for my fantasy draft next year?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Trade McNabb to the Panthers with our first for their first, to OBTAIN CAM NEWTON..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Alan, I agree. There's a big difference between not being impressed with shanahan THUS FAR and wanting him fired. I don't think many rational people are in the latter camp.

Posted by: AdamCr | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM |

I agree but I have heard people in the fire category and that blows my mine. Thats just telling Snyder to do what everyone hates him for.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Trade McNabb to the Panthers with our first for their first, to OBTAIN CAM NEWTON..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM

Back on the crack I see.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 28, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Usedta get .80 cents to the dollah trading with cooks in Chinatown..Buy rotsa clack!!

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I think the prognosticating monkey would have done better than that loser.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:39 PM

May I borrow the monkey for my fantasy draft next year?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM |

Sure but be careful. He might rip your testicles right off and eat all of your fingers and toes and chew off your nose....just for the fun of it.

Then, you'll end up looking like the average male Cowboy fan.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

The guy we traded away is doing better than any QB we have, and he was younger than all of them. It looks like we took a step backwards at the QB position this year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse
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I didn't like the McNabb trade from Day 1, but I understood that JC needed to move on, both for himself and for DC. Good for him.

But to say he's playing better than McNabb? Big time fail.

If McNabb was in Oakland during this crappy AFC West year and got to play four games against an even worse NFC West division, they are resting their starters for the playoffs this week.

Oakland is 2nd in rushing yards while we are 29th... and yet McNabb has us 9th in passing yards against 23rd for JC and Co.

You give McNabb the #2 rushing team in the league and we are playoff bound, even with the harder schedule.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Trade McNabb to the Panthers with our first for their first, to OBTAIN CAM NEWTON..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM
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I doubt that will happen. I'd be happy if the team traded McNabb to Carolina for a fifth rounder and Tony Pike. I think Pike is definitely a developmental project, but if he can pack on a little more muscle he could be the real deal. Meanwhile, the Redskins cannot think about a quarterback in the first round this year. That offensive line is still way beyond suspect and they need a big beefy nose tackle. Better to play "save the whales" this draft and get a project at QB while Grossman/Beck hold down the fort.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I think the prognosticating monkey would have done better than that loser.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:39 PM

May I borrow the monkey for my fantasy draft next year?

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM
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What happened to the monkey you were spanking?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Sure but be careful. He might rip your testicles right off and eat all of your fingers and toes and chew off your nose....just for the fun of it.

Then, you'll end up looking like the average male Cowboy fan.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:52 PM

LOL...nevermind...I'll just sit through another 6-8 season...or however the f*ck I ended up.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Trade McNabb to the Panthers with our first for their first, to OBTAIN CAM NEWTON..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM
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I doubt that will happen. I'd be happy if the team traded McNabb to Carolina for a fifth rounder and Tony Pike. I think Pike is definitely a developmental project, but if he can pack on a little more muscle he could be the real deal. Meanwhile, the Redskins cannot think about a quarterback in the first round this year. That offensive line is still way beyond suspect and they need a big beefy nose tackle. Better to play "save the whales" this draft and get a project at QB while Grossman/Beck hold down the fort.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 3:58 PM |

It is a 100% certainty the Skins take a QB in this years draft. He will not start but rather, get the offense down in practice and unless he's on par with a Mattie Ice, a Bradford, a Flacco, he'll be learning out of harms way while the OL gets rebuilt.

Look at it this way, if the 'Skins had their way last year, they'd have ended up with Cutler, Bradford or Locker (who didn't come out). No way they go another year w/o drafting their QB of the future and NO WAY the don't take one in this years QB-rich draft (at the top half of the first round anyway).

Once that pick is made, look to take no one under 6'3" and 300+lbs.

My long shot prediction is that Larry Fitzgerald will be a Redskin next year.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the monkey you were spanking?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:01 PM

Apparently you're supposed to keep your monkeys separate.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 28, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Oakland is 2nd in rushing yards while we are 29th... and yet McNabb has us 9th in passing yards against 23rd for JC and Co.

You give McNabb the #2 rushing team in the league and we are playoff bound, even with the harder schedule.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2010 3:53 PM

I'm sure Oakland can get McNabb if they want him.

Hypotheticals aside, passing yards is the ONLY area McNabb is putting up good numbers. JC's new team is better with him than without him (W's and L's), he's played wildly inconstent games but his season numbers are around his career averages, he played meaningful games in December, and he's pretty entrenched as the starter now.

The team McNabb left seems to be better without him (so it was a good team, after all, rather than a 1 man show!) and the one he's with now is only slightly better than last year. Furthermore, he just got beat out by Rex Grossman.

Let's see what the rest of the NFL thinks of McNabb's performance in the offseason.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"Better to play "save the whales" this draft and get a project at QB while Grossman/Beck hold down the fort."

So, this "Project X" you're referring to, Skins have a history of succeeding with these so-called projects??

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

So, this "Project X" you're referring to, Skins have a history of succeeding with these so-called projects??

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 4:08 PM |

Different group you can't never draft a QB because the people before you didn't have success.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 Possible 2011 Free Agent Nose Tackles

1. Shaun Rogers
Team: Cleveland Browns
Size: 6'4, 350
Age: 31
2011 Status: UFA
There's no denying that Shaun Rogers has been one of the better DT/NT's in the league over the years. But at age 31, he wouldn't exactly be the long-term answer the Dolphins would likely be looking for. Looking at other nose tackles in the league though, like the Dolphins' very own Jason Ferguson and the Viking's Pat Williams (age 37) for instance, Rogers may still have a good three or four years left in the tank after 2010.

2. Haloti Ngata
Team: Baltimore Ravens
Size: 6'4, 345
Age: 26
2011 Status: UFA
Yes, Ngata has been a defensive end for the Ravens, but unlike Randy Starks, he meets the prototypical size requirements for a move inside. At age 26, he also would be the long-term solution the Dolphins would be coveting. It's unlikely the Ravens let him get away though, and who knows if he would even be willing to sign with a team that expects him to take up a new position.

3. Trey Lewis
Team: Atlanta Falcons
Size: 6'3, 316
Age: 25
2011 Status: UFA
Lewis has started a total of six games in two seasons for the Falcons 4-3 scheme. He has the size to sign with a 3-4 team though, and take up nose tackle. The only problem is, his production in limited action suggest he isn't anything more than a backup, regardless of defensive scheme.

4. Ronald Fields
Team: Denver Broncos
Size: 6'2, 314
Age: 28
2011 Status: UFA
Fields started all sixteen games for the Broncos last season, and is still at a very signable age, if he hits the open market. However, Pro Football Focus ranked him the 66th nose tackle/defensive tackle in 09'. That was worse than Miami's Paul Soliai, who is also in the last year of his contract. From the looks of things, re-signing Soliai appears to be a more attractive option than signing Fields.

5. Ron Edwards
Team: Kansas City Chiefs
Size: 6'3, 315
Age: 30
2011 Status: UFA
Edwards is nearly the same player Fields is, only older and litte less productive (ranked 76th by PFF).

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

2011 NFL Draft: Top 5 Nose Tackles

1. Stephen Paea
School: Oregon State
Size: 6'1, 311
Year: Senior
Paea has the potential to be a first-round pick in 2011, and is considered to be one of the premiere defensive lineman in the nation. He's quick for his size, and has great lower body strength.

2. Jerrell Powe
School: Ole Miss
Size: 6'2, 328
Year: Senior
Powe could come off the board soon after Paea, as he is arguably the best pure nose tackle in the 2011 class. He has some character concerns off the field, but his work ethic on the field has been fantastic. He is powerful, as expected, but his mobility suprisingly doesn't take too much of a hit with his size.

3. Jarvis Jenkins
School: Clemson
Size: 6'4, 310
Year: Senior
Jenkins has good size and athleticism, but he may be better suited to play defensive end in the 3-4. Of course, that wouldn't necessarily be the case with the Dolphins, as we have already mentioned how Starks, Ferguson, and Ratliff don't have prototypical measurables. Following the trend of the rest of the league though, Jenkins might have leverage issues with his height, and slightly less than ideal weight.

4. Kendrick Ellis
School: Hampton
Size: 6'5, 340
Year: Redshirt Senior
Ellis has been dominate against questionable competition at Hampton. Just like Jenkins though, his height could prevent him from playing nose tackle at the next level.

5. Phil Taylor
School: Baylor
Size: 6'4, 355
Year: Senior
Character concerns will surround Taylor, as he was expelled from Penn State before he wound up with Baylor. Nonetheless, Taylor will be tempting for any 3-4 team in the middle to late rounds, as he possesses Terrance Cody type size.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Trade McNabb to the Panthers with our first for their first, to OBTAIN CAM NEWTON..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM
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I doubt that will happen. I'd be happy if the team traded McNabb to Carolina for a fifth rounder and Tony Pike. I think Pike is definitely a developmental project, but if he can pack on a little more muscle he could be the real deal. Meanwhile, the Redskins cannot think about a quarterback in the first round this year. That offensive line is still way beyond suspect and they need a big beefy nose tackle. Better to play "save the whales" this draft and get a project at QB while Grossman/Beck hold down the fort.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 3:58 PM |

It is a 100% certainty the Skins take a QB in this years draft. He will not start but rather, get the offense down in practice and unless he's on par with a Mattie Ice, a Bradford, a Flacco, he'll be learning out of harms way while the OL gets rebuilt.

Look at it this way, if the 'Skins had their way last year, they'd have ended up with Cutler, Bradford or Locker (who didn't come out). No way they go another year w/o drafting their QB of the future and NO WAY the don't take one in this years QB-rich draft (at the top half of the first round anyway).

Once that pick is made, look to take no one under 6'3" and 300+lbs.

My long shot prediction is that Larry Fitzgerald will be a Redskin next year.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 4:06 PM
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I don't think it is a certainty at all. It might have been were Vinny still in control, but this team still needs to protect a quarterback before they can draft one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Even with his career high 4 TD outburst, Rex's performance this year is around his career norms:

Career (36 games):
TDS 38
INT 39
COMP% 54%
RTG 70.2

Skins (2 games):
TDS 5
INT 3
COMP% 53.9
RTG 77.4

In other words, nothing special. Backup quality. And pretty comparable to McNabb this year:

TDS 14
INT 15
COMP% 58.3
RTG 77.1


Next year we may get what Shanahan promised at the beginning of this year: a true QB competition... although it sounds like McNabb dazzled Shanahan in pre-season and would have won the competition in practice anyway.


Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 3:01 PM

But the stat doesn't tell everything. With Grossman the Skins actually moved the football. They are scoring. He actually threw some balls away when there was no one open. With McNabb, the Skins couldn't move the ball.

Posted by: TheJury | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Alan,

JC is not entrenched as there starter they will be looking for a QB this offseason. JC is not a great QB and never will be he is playing the same as he always has, he just has more talent around him this year. His dump-offs are being turned into TD's by Mcfadden and he has a great running game.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

With McNabb, the Skins couldn't move the ball.

Posted by: TheJury | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM

I was with you up until this statement. McNabb moved the ball well at times, he racks up a lot of yards. The problem is in the red zone, so the team wasn't scoring.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it is a certainty at all. It might have been were Vinny still in control, but this team still needs to protect a quarterback before they can draft one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM |

Not true you have to draft a QB and get him learning your system this year, now you are correct that they shouldn't play him until they can protect better.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The problem is in the red zone with McNabb, so the team wasn't scoring.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 4:15 PM

Fixed it for you.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Flounder21,
JC is the best QB the Raiders have had since Gannon in 2002.

Most importantly, Al Davis likes him. That's what makes him entrenched.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 28, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Better to play "save the whales" this draft and get a project at QB while Grossman/Beck hold down the fort."

So, this "Project X" you're referring to, Skins have a history of succeeding with these so-called projects??

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 4:08 PM
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Not since Gibbs 1.0, but then again, they haven't had much luck in drafting the QB of the future either, have they? They drafted Shuler and the seventh round pick Frerotte, turned out to be better. They drafted Ramsey and he ended up being replaced by Mr. Screen Pass Brunnel. They drafted Campbell and he ends up being traded to Oakland for a twinkie and Paris Hilton's phone number.

So, if I were a gambling man, I would put my chips on drafting guys that are much more likely to improve the team and try to put the pieces in place for a 2012-13 first round draft pick at quarterback - if my project didn't work out.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Please, I beg you before I write the Editor of this paper...PLEASE START WRITING ABOUT THE TEAM AND THE IMPROVING THE TEAM FOR NEXT YEAR! I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THIS DRAMA!

Posted by: ejharrisjr40


Oh please don't write the editor. (But if you do, use LOTS of caps. They love that.) They'll no doubt fire Reid on the spot knowing you don't give a damn about the drama.

Actually, you make a point. I dont' care much about the drama either. But then redskins park Provides so much of it, what's a blog writer to do? Ignore the angry charges back and forth between the team and their former star QB and his Agent? The faux contract they gave him? Should they have ignored Haynesworth? Portius never shuts up--that's dramatic.

But covering the Redskins one imagins is a little like what covering the Kremlin used to be. They don't give you much, so you seek other sources. The whole NFL is like that--even the good organizations. Like NE.

Of course, unlike the Redskins, they ship their drama to Minny for a third rounder and go on a winning tear.

Fortunately, they only have three first round picks this year so they'll undoubtedly plummet.

Posted by: TheCork | December 28, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

No way they go another year w/o drafting their QB of the future and NO WAY the don't take one in this years QB-rich draft (at the top half of the first round anyway).

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse
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This organization is not ready for a QB of the future because it doesn't have a future friendly team.

It takes a couple of years to develop a WR, we have no reliable RB, and our interior line hasn't been upgraded since the Gibbs years.

Not to mention that our D might lose a starting CB, is still looking for a strong safety and D line, and London Fletcher won't be able to beat back Father Time forever.

There are too many holes to fill to take a shot on the next Matt Leinart (Locker).

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 28, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I'll stop projecting what we will draft.

I trust in Shanny.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 28, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it is a certainty at all. It might have been were Vinny still in control, but this team still needs to protect a quarterback before they can draft one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM |

Oh okay, so wait a year, build a line and lose a year of learning time and let the line get a year older.

I see being proactive and having forethought aren't among your strong-suits.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it is a certainty at all. It might have been were Vinny still in control, but this team still needs to protect a quarterback before they can draft one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM |

Not true you have to draft a QB and get him learning your system this year, now you are correct that they shouldn't play him until they can protect better.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:17 PM
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It would be nice to draft a QB who could sit and learn, but these days, teams spend so much money on these guys that they want an immediate return on their investment. A guy like Matt Ryan or Sam Bradford gets thrown into the line of fire immediately, so if the Redskins spent the pick, they would expect the guy to play right away, and to my earlier point, the Redskins offensive line couldn't protect the guy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised it took this long for one of you rocket surgeons to figure out how to beat the automated dirty word checker.

An interwebb hacking future awaits you, P_F

Posted by: TheCork | December 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:24 PM

And there's nothing racial to your attachment of Johnnie Cochran/Jackie Childs' style speech to Fletcher Smith.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 28, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice to draft a QB who could sit and learn, but these days, teams spend so much money on these guys that they want an immediate return on their investment. A guy like Matt Ryan or Sam Bradford gets thrown into the line of fire immediately, so if the Redskins spent the pick, they would expect the guy to play right away, and to my earlier point, the Redskins offensive line couldn't protect the guy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:28 PM |

Think rookie salary scale there won't be a new agreement without it. This years line can't protect, next years line will be totaly different so we are not sure yet on what they could do.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse


I thought Nick Fairley out of Auburn was the top DT prospect in the draft.


Also, that blurb on Ngata isn't exactly correct. Ngata got some significant play at NT when Kelly Gregg was injured.

Posted by: p1funk | December 28, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Not true you have to draft a QB and get him learning your system this year, now you are correct that they shouldn't play him until they can protect better.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:17 PM
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It would be nice to draft a QB who could sit and learn, but these days, teams spend so much money on these guys that they want an immediate return on their investment. A guy like Matt Ryan or Sam Bradford gets thrown into the line of fire immediately, so if the Redskins spent the pick, they would expect the guy to play right away, and to my earlier point, the Redskins offensive line couldn't protect the guy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:28 PM |

Well we agree to disagree.

That said, it's a forgone conclusion that a QB will be drafted in the FIRST round. The player will sit until he's ready and there's protection. See Josh from Tampa. He sat for almost all of last year and was ready to go this year.

Don't fret. Other teams worry about their investments so they feel compelled to play their new QB's right away.

When has putting someone on the shelf worried this staff?

Oh yeah, never.

A QB it will be.....

Book it and bet the house.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Skins:
22 draft picks in the last 8 eight years have been traded away. That leaves them with temporary duds such as Brandon Marshall; Jason Taylor; TJ Duckett; Adam Arculetta; Donovan McNabb??, the list is too many to name.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 28, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | December 28, 2010 4:32 PM

You are right on Nick Fairley. The article I got that from was earlier in the year, but threw those out for convo re what NTs may be available.

We have played ourselves out of the Fairley sweepstakes with the last win, but are very much in play for the next dude I like Jerrell Powe.

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2011 Draft, Nose Tackle, Jerrell Powe, Mississippi
By proscoutdan

Two-year starter but played in every game as a sophomore. Thick upper and lower body build. Built for power with good first step quickness for a big man. Depending on a ball club’s scheme, he may be drafted as a defensive tackle. Strong in his arms and shoulders. Physically tough enough to stack a double team. When he plays nose tackle he has very good agility and the ability to change direction. Has quick feet, explosiveness, and quick reactions. As a penetrator, he can get off on the snap and push the play deep. Is comfortable playing the cocked nose position. Has been durable at a very physically demanding position. He is accustomed to close quarter battling. Presses the pocket with a power rush, but has other tricks in his bag. Plays in a rotation where he is always fresh, but is productive and active when he’s in the game. Recorded 34 tackles, including 8 tackles for loss and 3 sacks.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 28, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it is a certainty at all. It might have been were Vinny still in control, but this team still needs to protect a quarterback before they can draft one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:12 PM |

Oh okay, so wait a year, build a line and lose a year of learning time and let the line get a year older.

I see being proactive and having forethought aren't among your strong-suits.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 4:27 PM
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Yes, and that philosophy has worked so well with Matt Stafford. He went to a team with a shoddy offensive line and has been brutalized. Tell me, how much does a QB learn on injured reserve?

Teams like the Falcons and Rams had decent offensive lines before they drafted their quarterbacks and those guys had success. I watched the Falcons play last night and that offensive line does a pretty good job protecting their quarterback.

A smart football team starts the rebuilding up front, with the big guys. Getting the high profile players happens later in the rebuilding process. That doesn't stop teams from kicking the tires on free agent and low round drafted quarterbacks, but they stay focused on creating a foundation for the quarterback before they throw him in the line of fire.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 3:24 PM

And there's nothing racial to your attachment of Johnnie Cochran/Jackie Childs' style speech to Fletcher Smith.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 28, 2010 4:30 PM |

Don't you ever speak/type to me you f'ing loser. I don't care who you are, if I were standing in front of you, I would knock your f'ing teeth out - for the fun of it. Then, I'd snap a few photos and start you up a website with your bloody and broken grill as the home page.

You want to toss around racial accusations the way you do over utter nonsense. Go ahead you wannabe counselor.

I bet you're a freaking 20th year associate and you get my damn coffee. You sir, enjoy placing the testicles of donkeys on your mouth and sucking them for all you're worth.

(owned)

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 28, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Skins:
22 draft picks in the last 8 eight years have been traded away. That leaves them with temporary duds such as Brandon Marshall; Jason Taylor; TJ Duckett; Adam Arculetta; Donovan McNabb??, the list is too many to name.


Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 28, 2010 4:37 PM |

When did Brandon Marshall play here at least get your facts straight before you post.

The only draft picks traded that mean anything now are the ones from Shanny the other people trading picks are gone.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"It would be nice to draft a QB who could sit and learn, but these days, teams spend so much money on these guys that they want an immediate return on their investment. A guy like Matt Ryan or Sam Bradford gets thrown into the line of fire immediately, so if the Redskins spent the pick, they would expect the guy to play right away, and to my earlier point, the Redskins offensive line couldn't protect the guy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead |"

Which makes the prospect of a moving target like Newton that much more intriguing..O-line obviously needs to be addressed, but hopefully this is our last time being strategically positioned to reach a top shelf QB like this in the draft...

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Make that Brandon Lloyd not Brandon Marshall (Miami), I guess the name doesn't matter because both of them provided the skins with the exact same thing...NOTHING

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 28, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"I don't care who you are, if I were standing in front of you, I would knock your f'ing teeth out - for the fun of it"

strong keyboard balls......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Think rookie salary scale there won't be a new agreement without it. This years line can't protect, next years line will be totaly different so we are not sure yet on what they could do.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:31 PM
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I hope for the good of the NFL there is some kind of rookie cap, but who knows? As for next year's offensive line, all I know is the guys that have played this year haven't done a great job of protecting the quarterback. I am encouraged by the play at tackle but I think the middle of the line needs to be totally replaced.

My personal preference would be for Washington to draft a nose tackle first and then work on getting some more interior linemen. At the bottom of the draft I would like to see them kick the tires on some defensive backs. If they could fill any of these roles through free agency, I say get 'er done, but they have to be young guys. The team needs a young foundation to support a multi-year rebuilding project.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Jerrell Powe, School: Ole Miss, Size: 6'2, 328, Year: Senior


This guy is good.

But I like Auburn's Nick Fairley, too.

In any event, drafting any kind of space-eating run-stuffing nose tackle would b a plus.

We missed out on Boston College's BJ Raji (packers) but should get Powe in the house if Fairley is gone.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2010 4:50 PM

You didn't know RI was the toughest neighborhood on the net.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 28, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Think rookie salary scale there won't be a new agreement without it. This years line can't protect, next years line will be totaly different so we are not sure yet on what they could do.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 4:31 PM
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Get "Hooked on Phonics" before you post

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 28, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I'll stop projecting what we will draft.



Why?

Do you realize the Super Bowl is a month and a half from now?

There's nothing to chat about outside of who we might or might not draft.

Some of use still want clarification about what picks we'll receive:

1, 2, 5, 6, 7 is what we have before issues of trades, compensation, and unknown deals come up.

Talking about how we can increase 5 picks to 9 is a lot to talk about.

And I plan on having a lot to say.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

P_F methinks you doth protest too much. Check your skirt baby, your Napoleonic complex is showing again.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 28, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I've been talking about Powe for months. True NT that will be there for us in the 2nd RD. He's a Vince Wilfork clone.

Trade back (if possible) and get a late 1st and late 2nd.
Take C/OG Pouncey
Powe w/ our 2nd
Take Ponder/Devlin w/ late 2nd

Championship in 2013

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

1, 2, 5, 6, 7 is what we have before issues of trades, compensation, and unknown deals come up.

Talking about how we can increase 5 picks to 9 is a lot to talk about.

And I plan on having a lot to say.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2010 5:03 PM |

Moe,

These are our current picks we know we have these anything else we can add would be great.

1st Rounder
2nd Rounder
5th Rounder
5th Rounder (from NO)
6th Rounder
7th Rounder
7th Rounder (from Indy from Justin Tryon trade)

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Which makes the prospect of a moving target like Newton that much more intriguing..O-line obviously needs to be addressed, but hopefully this is our last time being strategically positioned to reach a top shelf QB like this in the draft...

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 4:44 PM
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We just disagree philosophically right here. I never have liked scrambling quarterbacks. You teach QB's to throw with their feet firmly planted, wide stance, shoulder pointed downfield. Almost every scrambling quarterback coming out of college doesn't have the basic mechanics of throwing down to a science. This affects their accuracy and timing. It's a hard thing to teach to a guy who has had success primarily throwing with his arm and moving with his legs.

Aside from this, I think it is a little ill advised to draft a scrambling type of quarterback because you cannot protect the quarterback. It's kind of like buying a diesel powered car because your gasoline powered car keeps running out of gas. Sure, you won't run out of gas anymore but you could still end up sitting on the side of the road. The same is true with the offensive line: if they couldn't block for the pocket quarterback, they won't be able to block for the scrambling quarterback.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

It was a pleasure to watch those unknown players leave it all on the field against Jax Sunday.

It sure beats watching the underachieving "stars" who have their own weekly radio shows and spend more time kvetching about their situation than making plays on the field.

btw, don't waste your time complaining about Jason Reid. I hear he has been offered a gig covering B-list celebrities over at Gawker.com, so there will be a new knucklehead running this blog by the spring.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 28, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

My heavens, this IS a tough neighbo(u)rhood.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I stole your food stamps


Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 28, 2010 3:32 PM

I'll trade you some tequila for them.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 28, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The scenario of not drafting a QB makes keeping McNabb for another go almost inevitable..Some players need time to settle in , and a big whale like McNabb might just need some patience before he's comfortable..

""Aside from this, I think it is a little ill advised to draft a scrambling type of quarterback because you cannot protect the quarterback. It's kind of like buying a diesel powered car because your gasoline powered car keeps running out of gas. Sure, you won't run out of gas anymore but you could still end up sitting on the side of the road. The same is true with the offensive line: if they couldn't block for the pocket quarterback, they won't be able to block for the scrambling quarterback.

Posted by: RedSkinHead |"


Philly doesn't have a particularly great offensive line, but Vick makes those mojo-nixons SHINE with his quick feet and reflexes..How many times has he escaped from the jaws of the Giants, the Cowboys and ,oh yes, the Redskins this year, on the way to runnerup for the MVP?? (Thomas "Heh-heh-heh" Brady is the MVP) Do you remember one Joseph Theismann?? Chaos management is HUGE in the NFL and Cam looks the shaker and baker//NEW STYLE QUARTERBACK FREAKS//brought to you by Budweiser..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Flounder21


Thanks, flounder21.

That's seven picks before any attempt to move either AH or DM5 occurs.


Let's say we get a 4 and a 5 out of a trade involving either player (not unreasonable, mind you).

That's: 1, 2, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7

That's 9 picks on hand for a serious head coach in Shanahan and front office guy in Bruce Allen to rebuild with.

Again: the upcoming offseason will be extremely interesting.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is not playing here next year, it would be a worse decision to pay him 12mil next year then it was to trade for him in the first place.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

Trade back (if possible) and get a late 1st and late 2nd.


Trade the 1st pick?

Okay, but let's be reasonable and assume we'll get a 2nd rounder and a 3rd (not unlikely) on top of trading McNabb and AH for a 4th and 5th:

2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7

Suddenly, you have 10 picks and not 7 or 9.

You can still snag a q-back in round 2 and defensive lineman type as well with the other 2nd rounder.

Picks 3, 4, 5 become a center, defensive end, and wide receiver.

Picks 5, 5, 6, 7, 7 become guard, tackle, free safety, linebacker, and running back

Will this all happen?: Nawwwww!

Should it?

Yes.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 28, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is not playing here next year, it would be a worse decision to pay him 12mil next year then it was to trade for him in the first place.

Posted by: Flounder21

Then, in that scenario, do you think another year of offensive shamble-rooski with a backup QB at the helm will be tolerable for Danny and the FO??? Absolutely not- we HAVE to draft a top QB who is ready-made to rock in the NFL..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"I don't care who you are, if I were standing in front of you, I would knock your f'ing teeth out - for the fun of it"

strong keyboard balls......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 28, 2010 4:50 PM

You forgot to mention that you would also make a necklace out of those said knocked out teeth there, killer.

BtGreg1 and me have you figured out bro. You're a bad dude; like AH stomping on Cowshi* player head, bad.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | December 28, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is not playing here next year, it would be a worse decision to pay him 12mil next year then it was to trade for him in the first place.

Posted by: Flounder21

Then, in that scenario, do you think another year of offensive shamble-rooski with a backup QB at the helm will be tolerable for Danny and the FO??? Absolutely not- we HAVE to draft a top QB who is ready-made to rock in the NFL..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 6:13 PM |

I agree we need to draft a QB I don't agree he needs to be ready to start day one, Snyder got out of the way because he knew fans had seen enough he is not getting involved for a few years unless it's a disaster.

Cam Newton is not a day one starter in the NFL and would be a bigger project then most of the QB's coming out this year.

Hed is not a good passer.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is not playing here next year, it would be a worse decision to pay him 12mil next year then it was to trade for him in the first place.

Posted by: Flounder21

Then, in that scenario, do you think another year of offensive shamble-rooski with a backup QB at the helm will be tolerable for Danny and the FO??? Absolutely not- we HAVE to draft a top QB who is ready-made to rock in the NFL..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 6:13 PM |

I agree we need to draft a QB I don't agree he needs to be ready to start day one, Snyder got out of the way because he knew fans had seen enough he is not getting involved for a few years unless it's a disaster.

Cam Newton is not a day one starter in the NFL and would be a bigger project then most of the QB's coming out this year.

Hed is not a good passer.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is not playing here next year, it would be a worse decision to pay him 12mil next year then it was to trade for him in the first place.

Posted by: Flounder21

Then, in that scenario, do you think another year of offensive shamble-rooski with a backup QB at the helm will be tolerable for Danny and the FO??? Absolutely not- we HAVE to draft a top QB who is ready-made to rock in the NFL..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 6:13 PM |

I agree we need to draft a QB I don't agree he needs to be ready to start day one, Snyder got out of the way because he knew fans had seen enough he is not getting involved for a few years unless it's a disaster.

Cam Newton is not a day one starter in the NFL and would be a bigger project then most of the QB's coming out this year.

Hed is not a good passer.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 28, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

If a QB is what people want in the 1st RD then take your pick between Locker and possibly Mallett.

We'll be picking somewhere between 10-17 and both Luck (#1), Newton (ARI/SF), and possibly Mallett depending on this Sunday's game will be off the board.

Hell it's possible that all four QBs will be off the board when we pick.

But the only way Luck and Newton would be in play is if we traded up to get them.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 28, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

That's what they said about Vick, oh bottom-dwelling one..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

That's what they said about Vick, oh bottom-dwelling one..

Posted by: frak | December 28, 2010 6:42 PM
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Vick is a rare commodity. To your own words, he is a freak. Freaks don't come along that often. More pocket quarterbacks have had success in the NFL than scrambling quarterbacks. The odds are better for drafting a pocket passer. As I said before, you draft this year for the beef, and then, when you feel like the you've assembled the right guys to block for your quarterback, you draft your quarterback. I would feel less heartbroken if Grossman took the sacks next year while some rookie offensive linemen developed than I would if a ten million dollar a year quarterback was being scraped off the turf because Rabach or Lichtenstein let another guy through. I stand by my earlier comments that 2011 draft should not be about quarterbacks.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 28, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

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