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Posted at 12:50 PM ET, 11/30/2010

Football Insider Live: Vikings recap, Giants preview and thoughts on hecklers

By Washington Post editors

Rick Maese jand Barry Svrluga joined LaVar Arrington and host Jonathan Forsythe on this week's webcast to talk about Sunday's loss, how the Redskins will deal with the Giants pass rush, and hecklers.

You can also download the podcast of this show or subscribe to the podcast.


By Washington Post editors  | November 30, 2010; 12:50 PM ET
 
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theCork

A more realitic goal would be to win at least one of their next five games...The question is, which one?

You're an insightful fellow.

You've acknowledged the obvious: we're finishing the season against 4 teams who have talent advantages over us.

The jags and bucs are young and improving.

We don't normally beat the jints, and the pokes, the second time around, will actually be more of a challenge than the first where but for a holding call, we lose.

In other words, a 6-10 or 7-9 record and top 10 draft selection is in our future.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 30, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I'll watch this..

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 30, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

F Playing for pride...

Posted by: jiza32 | November 30, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jiza32 | November 30, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm not watching this!

Posted by: monk811 | November 30, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Everyone might as well clean out there lockers pick up there checks and take there half hearted try at a football game home with them to there Mansions...

Posted by: jiza32 | November 30, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jiza32 | November 30, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

This movies is getting old quick. This team won't change its losing ways without parting way with core players who are simply over matched. The whole DL is weak. The DB are overrated. We need tougher than nails players who can actually take ownership of how they play. I am tired of the Santana Moss and DeAngelo Hall attitudes. Acting like you are a top talent in the league when your performance is so bad has to stop.
The teams that win the SB are those built up front. We need a whole new OL even if it means parting ways with guys like Rabach. Give the new talent a change to play if we lose at the NY G Men this week. I want to see what Riley can do at LB, Cook and Capers on the OL. Shanny or no Shanny, this is getting tiresome year after year.

Posted by: redskinfan47 | November 30, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Shanny or no Shanny, this is getting tiresome year after year.

Posted by: redskinfan47 | November 30, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but at least the flavor of Koolaid changes every couple of years!

Posted by: monk811 | November 30, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse


I'd rather get an AH update thread than this "DIVE ASS" stuff

Posted by: hessone | November 30, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: redskinfan47 | November 30, 2010 1:42 PM |

I feel your pain rsf

Posted by: hessone | November 30, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

You're an insightful fellow.

You've acknowledged the obvious: we're finishing the season against 4 teams who have talent advantages over us.

The jags and bucs are young and improving.

We don't normally beat the jints, and the pokes, the second time around, will actually be more of a challenge than the first where but for a holding call, we lose.

In other words, a 6-10 or 7-9 record and top 10 draft selection is in our future.

Posted by: MistaMoe |

Thanks for the kind words. Yiou see to agree with me, yet anticipate a possibe 7-9 record..Don't see 'skins winning two more games.

Which, in the long run, is probably a good thing. Just beat Dallas.

P

Posted by: TheCork | November 30, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Lavar is really becoming a fat boy.

Posted by: AdamCr | November 30, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

What does this team ABSOLUTELY need with first two picks?

Nothing and everything. Except for RB and WR, I’d go with best player available philosophy, all the while trying to make intelligent trade down to pick up more high picks from teams desperate to get “one key piece.” If ‘skins can parley two top picks into Four top tops selections and pick up two starting OL a solid NG and a lights out linebacker or shut down corner, I’m a happy camper.

If you watch SF yesterday you saw a key lesson. FIX the lines and other problems go away. Westbrook, for God’s sake ran like a champion. Why? The 49ers OLINE was destroying the Arizona DL.

Posted by: TheCork | November 30, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey Fellow 'Skins fans,
After these last few weeks, I've come to the conclusion that HC Shanahan must make a drastic move [he finally saw Galloway was a wasted roster spot] some will recall I was very against the Galloway experiment as early as training camp...

HC Shanahan must swallow hard and get rid of several veterans for next years team. They must stop the band-aid approach and build a foundation.

Andre Carter
Philip Daniels
London Fletcher
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Clinton Portis
Donovan McNabb
Kemoeautu
Big Albert Haynesworth

All must go and the rebuilding begin

HTTR

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | November 30, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

cork, as much as it pains me to say this, nailed it in the last post....fix these lines...and by fix, I'm not saying Lichenstiger either....hopefully shanny doesn't view him as part of the solution...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm not watching this!

Posted by: monk811 | November 30, 2010 1:04 PM

Co-sign

Posted by: PlayAction | November 30, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

It's rather pathetic that we should be talking about potential draft picks with five regular season games remaining -- and a whole set of playoff games to follow -- like a month and a half away.

But it is what it is, and we are where we are -- looking forward to the off-season already.

I also tend to think it doesn't really make much difference if we pick 1st, 5th, 10th or 31st -- because there isn't that much difference in the level of raw talent within the various rounds.

The difference is what you're able to do with that talent -- through coaching, conditioning, mentoring, schemes, and supporting players.

Hence, a consistently successful organization like New England or Pittsburgh can make due with a series of high picks -- and even find important roles for their sixth and seventh rounders -- with minimum support from a serviceable free agent or two.

Meanwhile, a consistently mediocre (or worse) organization -- like say, the palefaces in the Redskin front office -- will alway seems to find a new way to fail at every turn.

And so even if the Redskins are somehow fortunate enough to be able to select the biggest, best and brightest talent available in the next draft -- we will put them in an organization that appears content with putting a mediocre (or worse) team on the field each and every season -- year in and year out.

All hail Dan Snyder and his minions!

Posted by: Vic1 | November 30, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey Play, was wondering when you were planning on showing up again! There have been some dive ass posts today!

Posted by: monk811 | November 30, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

All hail Dan Snyder and his minions!


Posted by: Vic1 | November 30, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

It's funny you mentioned that, they are thinking about changing the name of 'Hail to the Redskins' to 'Hail to the Midgets' in little Danny's honor! I say DO IT!!!

Posted by: monk811 | November 30, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter, I wish we coulda got something for him last offseason after 11 sacks

Philip Daniels, bye bye

London Fletcher, I think hell squeeze out another yr, then be replaced

Mike Sellers, too old, young looks like a solid replacement

Casey Rabach, I've been waiting for his replacement

Clinton Portis, bye bye unless he signs on the cheap

Donovan McNabb will be back for another yr ot two, we wait on a qb till next yr, if he's top ten donnys bye bye

Kemoeautu, he will be our back up to our new guy, either drafted or a free agent

Big Albert Haynesworth, kept or traded in offseason depending if he attends

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 30, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Don't see 'skins winning two more games.

The bucs are young and improving, and since we play them at home, we could reap a win.

Likewise, I think we canbeat the jags on the road, too.


Posted by: MistaMoe | November 30, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey Play, was wondering when you were planning on showing up again! There have been some dive ass posts today!

Posted by: monk811 | November 30, 2010 2:33 PM

Careful monk...did you ask beep if we were allowed to acknowledge each other today...you know he doesn't appreciate our banter. Well daughter was sick yesterday and playing catch up here at work today.

Wish JReid could make himself useful and summarize the goings on here on the blog each day...nahhhh he would screw that up too!

Hess seems to be in a good mood!

Posted by: PlayAction | November 30, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter
Philip Daniels
London Fletcher
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Clinton Portis
Donovan McNabb
Kemoeautu
Big Albert Haynesworth

Out of this list, I think London will stay for at least one year. Perry Reily will be his replacement eventually. Even though he just had a bad game, he was a tackling machine in pre season. I think he can be good.

For some odd reason, I think if healthy, Clinton Portis will be back next year. He wasnt looking bad, as of late, until the injury. Every team needs a vet, pass blocking, RB. If he is willing not to be the starter, he will be here next year. He has grown into a leadership role. Its hard to find a young running back that can play every down.

Call me crazy, but I don't know if we let loose of Haynsworth. We are lacking talent, and he is one person that has it. If somehow we can find a Stud NT, to replace Kemo, I think Albert would fit well at D End. But def. a long shot.

A person you should add to the list is Santana Moss. One of my favs, but, I think we let him loose next year. I think we bring in 2 WR's. Hopefully, Vincent Jackson and a stud rookie.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 30, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

redskinray

Who about we use band aids while we build our foundation??

Kept guys we can use for the future( TW, Sackpo, LL, our current studs)

Then use serviceable players we can grab, ie brown, hick, carriker, zo until we can draft or sign more studs??

Do you recommend that we get rid of these guys?? I say cheap them n replace then as we get the oppurtunities. There starters here not sure about on real contending teams. There expereince will make them great back ups here giving us depth next yr when we get young guys in

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 30, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

redskinray

Who about we use band aids while we build our foundation??

Kept guys we can use for the future( TW, Sackpo, LL, our current studs)

Then use serviceable players we can grab, ie brown, hick, carriker, zo until we can draft or sign more studs??

Do you recommend that we get rid of these guys?? I say cheap them n replace then as we get the oppurtunities. There starters here not sure about on real contending teams. There expereince will make them great back ups here giving us depth next yr when we get young guys in

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | November 30, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse


have mercy on us jreid and send us a new thread, jeez

Posted by: hessone | November 30, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Why couldn't Rabach's injury have been season ending?

5 game win streak...WHOOOOO!

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 30, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Dive ass beeps...really dive ass...damn.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 30, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Please stop this train wreck.

Posted by: themantoyou | November 30, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

You guys are so negative. We are a much better team than last year. We won the Titans game and almost won the Vikes game when our roster was decimated with injuries. A couple of good interior O lineman and a top #1 receiver for McNab to throw to would make all of the difference for our O. Add a top linebacker to complement Orakpo, and we can compete with any team in our division. This talk about completely gutting the roster is ridiculous. When I hear you talk about getting rid of fletcher, I know you've gone nutso. Sure, get rid of anyone you want, AS LONG AS the replacement is better, or is young and is likely to be better in the near future. Of course I'd rather have a young up and comer with a good upside than an older "bandaid", but I'd rather have an old bandaid than a young bandaid, because he will be more experienced and will help us more. One thing that has to stop is getting rid of draft picks. We have no #3 or 4 this year. Still, use the #1 for a top WR and the #2 for one of the top interior O lineman and see how much the O improves. Or use the #1 for Ingram if he is still available, and the #2 for a TRUE impact receiver. Use the other 5 picks for another RB, a LB, and 3 interior O lineman. Everyone talks trade down, but you really have to find a team that dearly wants your pick to get real value in return these days. Then there is free agency. I think that unlike in the past, Shanny and Allen will make good draft picks and use good judgement in free agency to get quality young players instead of old stars past their prime. Despite the potholes, I still feel we are on the right track. Hail to the Skins

Posted by: kenboy1 | November 30, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

You guys are so negative. We are a much better team than last year. We won the Titans game and almost won the Vikes game when our roster was decimated with injuries. A couple of good interior O lineman and a top #1 receiver for McNab to throw to would make all of the difference for our O. Add a top linebacker to complement Orakpo, and we can compete with any team in our division. This talk about completely gutting the roster is ridiculous. When I hear you talk about getting rid of fletcher, I know you've gone nutso. Sure, get rid of anyone you want, AS LONG AS the replacement is better, or is young and is likely to be better in the near future. Of course I'd rather have a young up and comer with a good upside than an older "bandaid", but I'd rather have an old bandaid than a young bandaid, because he will be more experienced and will help us more. One thing that has to stop is getting rid of draft picks. We have no #3 or 4 this year. Still, use the #1 for a top WR and the #2 for one of the top interior O lineman and see how much the O improves. Or use the #1 for Ingram if he is still available, and the #2 for a TRUE impact receiver. Use the other 5 picks for another RB, a LB, and 3 interior O lineman. Everyone talks trade down, but you really have to find a team that dearly wants your pick to get real value in return these days. Then there is free agency. I think that unlike in the past, Shanny and Allen will make good draft picks and use good judgement in free agency to get quality young players instead of old stars past their prime. Despite the potholes, I still feel we are on the right track. Hail to the Skins

Posted by: kenboy1 | November 30, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone really think this wasn't a rebuilding year?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 1, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

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