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For Jason Campbell, the smart move is skipping this minicamp

Updated 7:32 a.m.

Quarterback Jason Campbell made a wise move in deciding not to participate in this weekend's voluntary minicamp at Redskins Park.

Campbell, according to two people familiar with the situation, informed the Redskins he would not attend the camp shortly after signing his one-year, $3.14 million contract Monday. Campbell, Washington's starter the last three-plus seasons, needs more time to deal with becoming a backup with the team, and perhaps the Redskins will find a trade partner to help end Campbell's tenure with the Redskins.

The weekend's mimicamp is about the Redskins starting anew under Coach Mike Shanahan and Pro Bowl quarterback Donovan McNabb. Clearly, Campbell is part of the Redskins' past.

Marshall to Dolphins

ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting (as of 7:30 a.m.) that the Denver Broncos will trade Brandon Marshall to the Miami Dolphins today, so cross Marshall off your wish list. The deal is likely for two draft picks, at least a second-rounder this year and a pick next year. Trade details are still being nailed down.

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By Jason Reid  |  April 14, 2010; 7:22 AM ET
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Enough with the Campbell would be a great quarterback in the right system talk...if he was as good as everyone seems to think we would not be begging teams for a 5th round pick. FYI: Reinhardt was a third rounder (good lord). Cheers.

Posted by: MPNangle | April 14, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

"Campbell, Washington's starter the last three-plus seasons, needs more time to deal with becoming a backup with the team."

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Ouch.

You gotta have empathy for JC.

No amount of time will suffice.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 14, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

If the Redskins don't address the OL, and if Jason stays with the team as a backup, he could be the starter again, sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 14, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Expect more bootlegs and tomfoolery with an experienced savy QB this year. LJ should pick up those pesky 3rd and 1's. With a better system in place and players buying in, we should have a better year. But being better than 4-12 aint that hard.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 14, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

For Jason Campbell, the smart move is skipping this minicamp

By Jason Reid | April 14, 2010; 7:22 AM ET


Um, yeah...especially when you consider the coach told him not to show up.

Geez, good thing for us we get our actual "news" elsewhere...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

AFC east just became the best division in football...in my opinion. Miami/NE/Jets, gonna be a dog fight all year long.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

If the Redskins don't address the OL, and if Jason stays with the team as a backup, he could be the starter again, sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Chia_Pet

You are so right Chia. But I am sure some on the blogg will say that McNabb is no good and hold onto the ball way too long. That it is not the line fault.

Posted by: jm220 | April 14, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

If the Redskins don't address the OL, and if Jason stays with the team as a backup, he could be the starter again, sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 14, 2010 7:51 AM
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Hypothetically speaking, let's say the Redskins keep Campbell (which I think is about as likely to happen as the ghost of Vince Lombardi appearing during the broadcast of the hall of fame game). Does he even beat out Grossman for the backup job? It's obvious by trading for McNabb that Shanahan doesn't think too highly of Campbell's QB skills, so does that give the edge to Grossman? Especially since Grossman knows the offense Shanny Jr. is implementing?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 14, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

"For Redskin Insider, Everything Jason Campbell does is the right thing"

That should be the headline. I'm not a Jason hater, but geez, all this love for a sub-par quarterback is annoying. As others have pointed out, few teams seem to be interested in him. This blog has suggested that letting him go this late in the offseason has limited him, but if he was as good as some suggest, there are a number of quarterback-needy teams that would happily clear room for a good starting quarterback. Maybe it will happen, but I doubt it...

Posted by: hemlock28 | April 14, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

AFC east just became the best division in football...in my opinion. Miami/NE/Jets, gonna be a dog fight all year long.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:07 AM


The Bills are still a bottom-feeder though, so I still put the AFC East below the NFC East just slightly. Right now it's not implausible to say that any of the 4 teams in the NFC East could make the playoffs...you can't really say that about the AFC East.

But that division is gonna be tough now that Miami has a legit WR. I'm curious to see who steps up and takes Ginn off their hands.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

AFC east just became the best division in football...in my opinion. Miami/NE/Jets, gonna be a dog fight all year long.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:07 AM
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You have to love the way Parcells builds a football team. He starts with the o-line, moves to QB and defense and then begins to connect the dots at the skill positions. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they don't take a shot on a running back in the draft.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 14, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

AFC east just became the best division in football...in my opinion. Miami/NE/Jets, gonna be a dog fight all year long.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


I agree that the AFC East is probably right there, if not better than the NFC East.

But keep in mind that this is April and everyone looks good on paper in April.

We as 'Skins fans should know this.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

The Bills are still a bottom-feeder though.

Um..brown...they pick after we do...so if they're a bottom feeder, what does that make us....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

You have to love the way Parcells builds a football team. He starts with the o-line, moves to QB and defense and then begins to connect the dots at the skill positions.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 14, 2010 8:28 AM


Right...I believe that's called building it properly. Wish the Skins could adopt that philosophy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they don't take a shot on a running back in the draft.

Posted by: RedSkinHead


Why with Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown? I know its rumored that Brown maybe release but until they do, it's just rumors to me.

Ricky Williams maybe on the wrong side of 30 for a running back, but dude has quite a bit left due to the year or two he had to sit out.

Yahoo sports had a good article on him.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

The Bills are still a bottom-feeder though.

Um..brown...they pick after we do...so if they're a bottom feeder, what does that make us....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:30 AM |

I don't think he was implying that they held a monopoly on the title...

Posted by: edvar | April 14, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse


The Bills are still a bottom-feeder though, so I still put the AFC East below the NFC East just slightly. Right now it's not implausible to say that any of the 4 teams in the NFC East could make the playoffs...you can't really say that about the AFC East.

But that division is gonna be tough now that Miami has a legit WR. I'm curious to see who steps up and takes Ginn off their hands.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 8:24 AM
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Yep. The Bills are about a three hour drive from my house and nobody here even wants to see them on TV. The team is just bad and the decision making around there doesn't fill anyone with hope for the future. I mean, when the Redskins aren't on and I am looking for an AFC game, I'll tune into the Jets.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 14, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Good... another headache we don't need.

Poor Buffalo Bills.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Why with Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown? I know its rumored that Brown maybe release but until they do, it's just rumors to me.

Ricky Williams maybe on the wrong side of 30 for a running back, but dude has quite a bit left due to the year or two he had to sit out.

Yahoo sports had a good article on him.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 8:35 AM
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Because Parcells can never have enough good running backs, Williams is "now" but not the future, and Brown just isn't durable enough to be the workhorse Parcells is looking for. He wants a guy that can carry the rock thirty times a game week in and week out.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 14, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Um..brown...they pick after we do...so if they're a bottom feeder, what does that make us....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:30 AM


We got Mike Shanahan to come coach our team, they got Chan Gailey. We have Donovan McNabb to play QB, they got...probably JC when it's all said and done. They were probably the only team in '09 with a worse O-line than we had. The 3 teams in their division are head-and-shoulders better than they are, I wouldn't say that about the Skins in the NFC East.

All in all, I'd say we had the better offseason and stand a better chance to make a move up in the standings than they do. Just my opinion...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

AFC east just became the best division in football...in my opinion. Miami/NE/Jets, gonna be a dog fight all year long.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


The Jets will S-U-C-K Suck Suck Suck!

Book it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 14, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Um..brown...they pick after we do...so if they're a bottom feeder, what does that make us....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, a paper tiger with absolutely no depth that will collapse at the first sign of injury and no draft picks to remedy that serious fault? A team that will be lucky to back into the wild card round in the next couple years and never really compete for a championship until we realize we can't backfill our roster with 5th round picks?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | April 14, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

The Jets will S-U-C-K Suck Suck Suck!

Book it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 14, 2010 8:48 AM


I wouldn't go as far as to "book it", but I wouldn't be surprised either. As a Skins fan, I'm always skeptical of teams that have huge offseasons like the Jets have. The spending/trading thing hasn't worked for the Skins or the Broncos so it wouldn't be a shock if it didn't work for the Jets either.

But you gotta admit they look mighty good on paper...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

All in all, I'd say we had the better offseason and stand a better chance to make a move up in the standings than they do. Just my opinion...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse
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We could have said that in every season for the last 10, and we have only actually improved our season record twice, and moved up in the standings 3 times. That's bad.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 14, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

If JC gets traded.....it'll be to the Dolphins....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

No doubt this is the best move for Campbell. The last thing his agent, or the Redskins, need is footage or reports of him struggling to make heads or tails of the Shanahan playbook. Odds are he hasn't even looked at the offense since the new coach came on board.

Posted by: tkoho | April 14, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

AFC east just became the best division in football...in my opinion. Miami/NE/Jets, gonna be a dog fight all year long.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 8:07 AM

The PAts will be just a shell if it's former self....Unless they reload on defense....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Ya I have to say that the AFC East is better then NFC East. Heck I would put the AFC South above the NFC East.

NFC east now has two teams with big ??? by their names in the Eagles and Redskins. Giants have to retool a bit to become contenders as well. We are a middle of the pack conference this coming season.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 14, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Brady, 2nd year after an ACL, sorry, they'll be right there with 10-11 wins...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

We could have said that in every season for the last 10, and we have only actually improved our season record twice, and moved up in the standings 3 times. That's bad.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 14, 2010 9:01 AM


Yeah, but the last 10 years was on Vinny. I'm still giving Allen/Shanahan the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

If JC gets traded.....it'll be to the Dolphins....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:01 AM


Chad Henne says hello...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

So.

For some time the JC17 Defense Union argued vociferously that Jason Campbell's "value" in the league was the same as Brandon Marshall since they both had first-round tenders applied to them.

Anyone out there from the JC17 Defense Union think we are going to fetch two 2nd rounders for JC?

Anyone?

...didn't think so.

No, instead we'd be thanking our lucky stars if we got one 3rd rounder.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Why are all the JC supporters so hell bent on talking about how bad he's been treated and how the line didnt protect him and he's had to learn all these systems and the front office keeps trying to replace him,News Flash;GET OVER IT!!JC's a nice guy,seems like he would be a good neighbor,but as QB for my Skins,I dont care about his feelings.You know what I care about more than his feelings?THE SKINS WINNING!He aint good enough.He was never good enough.JC will NEVER be the guy down by 4 with 1:53 left on the clock who's gonna take his team 73 yards in the 4th.HE'S NOT THAT GUY.

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

For some time the JC17 Defense Union argued vociferously that Jason Campbell's "value" in the league was the same as Brandon Marshall since they both had first-round tenders applied to them.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:13 AM


Who said that? Seriously, I've been one of the biggest JC supporters on here and even drunk I wouldn't make that assertion...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

The PAts will be just a shell if it's former self....Unless they reload on defense....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

They have a first rounder and 3 second rounders in the deepest draft in recent memory. I think it's safe to say they'll reload. Good teams stay good for a reason. They can take Jared Odrick, Brandon Graham, Kyle Wilson, and Dez Bryant and pretty much be a legit contender again.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | April 14, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Quoting Schefter again...weak.

They should officially change your title from "reporter" to "regurgitator".

Posted by: McMetal | April 14, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

No, instead we'd be thanking our lucky stars if we got one 3rd rounder.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:13 AM

We'd be grateful for a 5th rounder. JC has no trade value after his performance here.

Posted by: League-Source | April 14, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Campbell feelings are hurt so he is going to hide until he is released or traded? What a baby! Sorry Jason; but you won 4 games last year and except for a few shining moments you have not shown much in you're carrer to this point!

The offensive line has been bad and there has been a coaching carosel but the fact remains that Jason often overthrows open receivers, has no touch, and can't get rid of the ball in a timely fashiion! Campbell's most glaring weakness is lack of leadership! A QB needs to lead the team! If it takes a little yelling at missed assignments or calling a players only team meeting to get everyone on the same page, He's a no show?

McNabb isn't the answer. He's over the hill and Philly got rid of him for a reason. If I were Campbell I would show up at mini camp, look Shannahan in the eye and tell him all I wan't is a fair shot at competing for the starting job!

At least he would show some guts and leave with the respect of his teamates and fans!

Posted by: sbf845 | April 14, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

"Campbell, Washington's starter the last three-plus seasons, needs more time to deal with becoming a backup with the team."

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Ouch.

You gotta have empathy for JC.

No amount of time will suffice.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 14, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse


Yeah.

I'm going to hold a candle-light vigil for JC17 to show him support through this incredibly difficult time.

Jason Reid will lead us in a couple of hymns before our keynote speaker Michael Wilbon will rail against the injustices marshalled against him.

He's going to get a check for $3+ mill to do nothing after going 4-12 last year.

These kinds of difficult situations must be unbearable....

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

He was never good enough.JC will NEVER be the guy down by 4 with 1:53 left on the clock who's gonna take his team 73 yards in the 4th.HE'S NOT THAT GUY.

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 9:18 AM


You're absolutely right. He's only good for about 67 yards with 3:38 left in the 4th quarter down by 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pGVLK0c6gE

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

For some time the JC17 Defense Union argued vociferously that Jason Campbell's "value" in the league was the same as Brandon Marshall since they both had first-round tenders applied to them.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:13 AM


Who said that? Seriously, I've been one of the biggest JC supporters on here and even drunk I wouldn't make that assertion...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:19 AM

I haven't seen that either brownwood26. What I've seen is that people want to get a fair deal for JC. Given the current environment IMO it is a 4th-5th rounder, maybe with some conditionally added value.

Posted by: TWISI | April 14, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

pa, given the way that the pats like the 2nd round, I wouldn't be surprised if they use that 1 and turn it into another 2 and a 3.....I hate them, but admire their approach...They also have their 1st as well as Oaklands 1st next year. Which again, I wouldn't be shocked if they used either one of those to garner more picks this year either.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Chad Henne says hello...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:13 AM

Who else do they have? PAt White????? Pennington??

I never saw where they said HEnne would be the absolute starter with no competition (though I don't follow the Dolphins too much)....

And Dan Henning is still over there.......

I bet JC would rather be a back up somewhere else than a back up here.....If not, atleast have some type of long shot to start.

I was one of the 16% that voted NO on this poll because he should be there or else he'll risk being cut in TC if we can't find a trade partner. If McNabb's injury history holds consistant...JC will get atleast 2 starts......

Everyone voting yes is doing JC a disservice (not that a poll matters but speaking about public perception saying it's ok) and continues to enable him to be a cry baby and risk him losing valuable time with getting familiar with the new offense just in case we don't trade him.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Brady, 2nd year after an ACL, sorry, they'll be right there with 10-11 wins...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

How does Welkers rehab fit into this assertion?

Posted by: Devo2 | April 14, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Brady, 2nd year after an ACL, sorry, they'll be right there with 10-11 wins...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

How does Welkers rehab fit into this assertion?

Posted by: Devo2 | April 14, 2010 9:26 AM

And their porous defense....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I also consider myself one of the JC supporters here. I do not remember saying anything along those lines. I do remember saying, "If we can get a 1st and 3rd through the rules of the RFA it would be worth it".

Posted by: alex35332 | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

The PAts will be just a shell if it's former self....Unless they reload on defense....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse


The Pats WERE a shell of their former self last season...and they still made the playoffs.

As long as Brady is healthy they'll be in it.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but I'll never get over how far athletes (even classy ones like JC) are detached from the real working world.

He "needs more time to deal with becoming backup on the team"? Uggggggg!I would think that after being a big letdown to a team who paid a steep price to get him and invested allot of time in him (way more starts than previous 1st rounders Shuler and Ramsey got)that he would show up just to make sure he still had a job.

Wouldn't it make more sense to buoy his reputation as "a Great team player" to show up to this mini-camp? He either gets a leg up on impressing the new regime should he be forced to stay, or he helps sell the idea that the team will keep him which increases his trade value. Whatever his future holds, I see no reason that an adult needs to skip this mini-camp for psychological reasons.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato in a terrible 1994 movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scJsSLtYCe8.

If his drafting was as good as his "acting," then we might have been able to go 6-10 last year.

Lolz, fail

Posted by: TDawg1 | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love ESPN...Hannah Storm is doing the Roethlisberger story and the way they have Ben's pic to the left of her, it looks like he staring straight at her boobs. I just can't make this stuff up...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Is the media more desirous of a black QB who does well or of a black President do does well?

Posted by: TBDog | April 14, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

No, instead we'd be thanking our lucky stars if we got one 3rd rounder.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:13 AM


Yup. 3rd or a 4th.


Hope we do better than a 5th rounder...

So, if we get a mid-late 4th rounder, what do we do?

- DB/FS Myron Lewis 6-2 205 Vandy and move LL to SS

- CB Perish Cox and take a chance that he grows up

- MLB Daryl Washington if he's still around

- QB John Skelton if still round

- OT Kyle Calloway or Selvish Capers or Ed Wang

- RT/G Marshal Newhouse

- C Eric Olson or JD Baylor

- RB Ben Tate or Charles Scot or Lanyae Miller


I'm thinking anyone of those guys could help us a lot more than Soup at this point.

Posted by: edvar | April 14, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

"Washington's starter the last three-plus seasons, needs more time to deal with becoming a backup with the team"

Sounds like a chick I broke up with in HS.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 14, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but I'll never get over how far athletes (even classy ones like JC) are detached from the real working world.

He "needs more time to deal with becoming backup on the team"? Uggggggg!

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse


Yup.

And what makes it even worse is when the sportswriters who cover them - guys like JReid who is clearly in the JC Fan Club - try to drum up sympathy for them, and it only makes it worse.

Hey Jason Reid.

No one in touch with reality thinks Jason Campbell is going through a difficult situation.

Put away the violin and the hanky.

He makes millions of dollars to play (and not very well I might add) a schoolyard game.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

How does Welkers rehab fit into this assertion?

Julian Edelmen says hello. He's a welker clone.

1st
2nd
2nd
2nd
3rd

I think they're defense will be just fine.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

He was never good enough.JC will NEVER be the guy down by 4 with 1:53 left on the clock who's gonna take his team 73 yards in the 4th.HE'S NOT THAT GUY.

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 9:18 AM


You're absolutely right. He's only good for about 67 yards with 3:38 left in the 4th quarter down by 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pGVLK0c6gE

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:25 AM

BW - This is what you call 'Cherry Picking of the Facts'......This is DC...we know it all too well....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

We all know JC can't play and now we're finding out that he can't not play either. What a treat it's been to have had him on the team.

Posted by: TBDog | April 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Who else do they have? PAt White????? Pennington??

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:26 AM


I thought Pennington was gone...even if he's there, he's a better option than JC for them since he's been there and knows the offense. I doubt the Dolphins give up any more picks since they just gave up two high ones for Marshall, let alone to get a backup QB.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Henne will start out the year as the unquestioned starter for miami, thats what the three headed monster decrees. PW might be moved to WR and recently had a little spat about it but will still get a chance to backup Henne. Wouldnt be suprised if they upgraded(?) from Pennington to JC.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 14, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:26 AM

4th, I voted no as well. Until he is traded/cut, he needs to learn the new system and get ready to be the 2nd or 3rd QB. There is still a chance he could remain on the skins and could actually end up with playing time. If anything, he could only increase his trade value by learning the system and showing that he could be decent in pre-season games. I will still assert that the best time to trade him is going to be during pre-season, when someone else’s QB goes down.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 14, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Who said that? Seriously, I've been one of the biggest JC supporters on here and even drunk I wouldn't make that assertion...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:19 AM

The Defense Union's president, psps23, said words to that effect because he and I went back and forth regarding what the tender said about his value.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 14, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Marshall for a 2nd rounder sets the bar v-e-r-y low for Campbell, 4th or 5th. As far as Haynesworth, how can we expect more than a 2 for him, now?

Posted by: MrChili | April 14, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Anybody seen the video of drunk Jerrah Jones talkin ish about Tuna and Tebow?

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Campbell should stay away -- lest the facade that he has been operating under should fall away completely.

After posting a 4-12 season record during his 2009 football campaign, Campbell is reportedly annoyed that the Redskins signed Donnovan McNabb to quarterback the team.

Campbell says the team reniged on its earlier promise to give him a “fair opportunity” to compete for “his” starting position.

The Redskins now want him to compete against a "real professional quarterback" who has consistently proven his ability to lead a team, make clutch throws when the game is on the line, and win football games.

Campbell concluded, “Now tell me, what’s so fair about all of that?”

And to compound his concerns, Campbell isn't even being guaranteed an opportunity to play back up quarterback, as the team also brought in Rex Grossman to compete for that position.

Posted by: Vic1 | April 14, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Tyler Thigpen was their third I think, not sure if the fins still have him. Dude was a breast at Coastal Carolina...

Posted by: Stu27 | April 14, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Marshall for a 2nd rounder sets the bar v-e-r-y low for Campbell, 4th or 5th. As far as Haynesworth, how can we expect more than a 2 for him, now?

Posted by: MrChili | April 14, 2010 9:38 AM

It was for TWO second rounders. Thats a little different.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

JC should have decent value as a back-up QB.

He's got several years experience as a starter, has prototypical height, mobility and arm strength, doesn't make a lot of turnovers and he doesn't cause trouble in the locker room.

He's the kind of back-up that can come in off the bench and play effectively right away if your starter goes down, and can hold down the fort for a spell if your starter needs a couple of weeks to get patched up.

Posted by: edvar | April 14, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:26 AM

I agree regarding JC and minicamp. Considering he has to learn a new offense (we know how hard that is for him), he should stick around to pick some of it up. MS has said he wants to keep JC. JC should see if he's a man of his word. Bust his ass this off season and fight for his spot. That's what a leader does. Right now he's acting like a petulant quitter.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 14, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

JC for Ronnie Brown. Book it. Oh look, a winged unicorn just flew by.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 14, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

You're absolutely right. He's only good for about 67 yards with 3:38 left in the 4th quarter down by 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pGVLK0c6gE

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:25 AM

Touche Bdub,touche and since you were so quick with that one example,I'm sure you could give me one or two more where he pulled us out of trouble.Or better yet I'm sure JC is on your shortlist of say 3 or 4 that you would like to have behind center in that situation,huh?

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Marshall for a 2nd rounder sets the bar v-e-r-y low for Campbell, 4th or 5th. As far as Haynesworth, how can we expect more than a 2 for him, now?

Posted by: MrChili | April 14, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse


The bar was already very low for Campbell.

He's not played well and despite rumor-mongering to the contrary, there's never been an actual market for him. Only people listing bottom-feeder NFL teams that need QBs assuming they'd be interested in JC (which is kind of funny when you think about it - what team in their right mind looks at Jason Campbell's body of work and says "That's the guy who is going to lead us up from last place into the playoffs!")

As for AH, I'm hoping there's no trade going on there at all. If we're gearing up to make a serious run at a SB in the next 2-3 years, I think we could probably use arguably the most dominant Dlineman in the league.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

BW - This is what you call 'Cherry Picking of the Facts'......This is DC...we know it all too well....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 9:35 AM


Just falling in line with the trend here on the blog...I mean, if we can assign blame to a single player for a team's W/L record, surely I can throw up some video of him actually throwing a game winner in the 4th quarter...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Marshall for a 2nd rounder sets the bar v-e-r-y low for Campbell, 4th or 5th. As far as Haynesworth, how can we expect more than a 2 for him, now?

Posted by: MrChili | April 14, 2010 9:38 AM

If the offer for Haynesworth is only a second rounder, then keep him.

Posted by: edvar | April 14, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Touche Bdub,touche and since you were so quick with that one example,I'm sure you could give me one or two more where he pulled us out of trouble.Or better yet I'm sure JC is on your shortlist of say 3 or 4 that you would like to have behind center in that situation,huh?


Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse


This is called moving the goalpost.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | April 14, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

2 2nd rounders for Denver. They've really fleeced Miami and Chicago the last 2 years.

Cutler for 2 firsts and a 3rd was the biggest raping I think I've ever seen. AND they got Orton with it.

So for getting rid of a whiny bratty slightly better than average QB, and a whiny bratty very good WR, they got 2 firsts, 2 seconds, a third, and an average QB.

Why can't we make deals like that.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Allen, the Shanny's and many readers and posters on this blog were correct in assessing that Campbell is not good enough to start here due to his inability to consistently read a D and throw an accurate ball on time, which is reflected in DC losing 65% of 50 plus starts. How does the crow soup taste, Defense Union?

HTTR!

Posted by: Realness1 | April 14, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Campbell should stay away -- lest the facade that he has been operating under should fall away completely.

After posting a 4-12 season record during his 2009 football campaign, Campbell is reportedly annoyed that the Redskins signed Donnovan McNabb to quarterback the team.

Campbell says the team reniged on its earlier promise to give him a “fair opportunity” to compete for “his” starting position.

The Redskins now want him to compete against a "real professional quarterback" who has consistently proven his ability to lead a team, make clutch throws when the game is on the line, and win football games.

Campbell concluded, “Now tell me, what’s so fair about all of that?”

And to compound his concerns, Campbell isn't even being guaranteed an opportunity to play back up quarterback, as the team also brought in Rex Grossman to compete for that position.

Posted by: Vic1 | April 14, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse


That's a good point.

As much as people talk about how unfair the organization has been to JC, people forget that JC was handed the starting QB spot and coddled as the starter for some time.

He never won the spot outright in a real competition, unless you count Colt Brennan and Todd Collins as competition.

Now that there's a coach who doesn't treat him like a charity case, he's suddenly in a "difficult situation".

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"Yup.

And what makes it even worse is when the sportswriters who cover them - guys like JReid who is clearly in the JC Fan Club - try to drum up sympathy for them, and it only makes it worse.

Hey Jason Reid.

No one in touch with reality thinks Jason Campbell is going through a difficult situation.

Put away the violin and the hanky.

He makes millions of dollars to play (and not very well I might add) a schoolyard game.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:33 AM"

You have to wonder why it is that JC has been painted a such a victim? McNabb was unceremoniously shown the door after carrying that franchise for 11 years and nobody is saying how evil the Eagles are.

Harkens me back to Jeff Bostic. The legendary center once said that the redskins tried to replace him practically every year of his career and yet Joe Gibbs and company weren't labeled as mistreating him.

Why is a QB, who the team spent several picks on, gave 52 starts to, and paid many millions of dollars, constantly pushed by Reid, and practically all the media as a tragic figure. He's gotten way more than many high draft pick QB's ever get.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:25 AM

I remember that play vividly. I remember thinking I may have been wrong about JC after seeing him avoid the rush, step up in the pocket, and make that play. That was in week two, two seasons ago. What has he done since? Performances like that have been few and far between.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 14, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Touche Bdub,touche and since you were so quick with that one example,I'm sure you could give me one or two more where he pulled us out of trouble.Or better yet I'm sure JC is on your shortlist of say 3 or 4 that you would like to have behind center in that situation,huh?

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 9:45 AM


I don't remember seeing your handle so I don't know if you're familiar with my stance on JC or not...to sum it up, I think he's a decent QB who's been dealt a bad hand by an organization in disarray. He's not nearly as bad as many up here make him sound, and in an offense that actually fits his strengths he can be good. I don't think he'll be an elite QB in this league and as long as nobody asks him to be, he'll be fine.

So while he's not my first choice to put under center with the game on the line, it's not fair to say he "can't" lead you to a game-winning score when clearly he has. You don't have to like the guy, just give him credit for the few times he's done something exceptional.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Everyone voting yes is doing JC a disservice (not that a poll matters but speaking about public perception saying it's ok) and continues to enable him to be a cry baby and risk him losing valuable time with getting familiar with the new offense just in case we don't trade him.....

Posted by: 4th

When has Campbell cried about anything?

Okay, it was reported that if they drafted Sanchez last year that he'd request a trade and toward the end of the season he said something along the lines of 'it's not fair' in regard to the sub-par from the offensive line.

I wouldn't call the dude a "crybaby" for saying those things.

People wanted Campbell to be more vocal and say things like he said, then when he did people said he should STFU...

Wtf? You can't have it both ways. Or in other words it's okay for Portis to speak his mind, but when Campbell does it he's viewed as a malcontent.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

"He never won the spot outright in a real competition, unless you count Colt Brennan and Todd Collins as competition."
Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:54 AM |

And it is my contention that had Joe Gibbs stayed for 2008, JC would have been backing up Todd Collins. At the very least he would have had to compete judging by Joe's remarks ("Jason shouldn't worry about a little competition") the day before he retired.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

The Skins will trade Haynesworth to the Lions for the #2 overall pick. They'll draft Okung and then draft either Berry or Baluga with the #4 pick. You heard it here first, folks.

Posted by: Special-K | April 14, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

"When has Campbell cried about anything?"
Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 9:57 AM

You don't remember the "I feel like a piece of used toilet paper" line from last season?

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Ah poor baby needs a mental health break after signing a contract worth 3 mil. Poor thing.

No, it's not a smart move for him to skip a minicamp. Typical of his laziness and lack of desire that got him in hot water here in the first place. More likely he still probably hasn't lifted a finger to even look at the new playbook.

The sooner they can ship that loser out of here the better.

Posted by: jollyroger2 | April 14, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse


Dude was a breast at Coastal Carolina...

Posted by: Stu27 | April 14, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse


Anyone want to jump on this typo? It seems there's alot of good directions to go with this one...

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

You heard it here first, folks.

Posted by: Special-K | April 14, 2010 10:01 AM |

And we heard it here last, pal.

Posted by: League-Source | April 14, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Difference being CPo has at least performed as a league leader before whereas JC has just tanked year in year out... I think that's where those complaints come from.

I do see your 'pot calling kettle black' point, tho.

btw, WaPo - me likey Larimer! Good Post.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 14, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

maybe... just maybe... he's not at OTAs simply because everyone involved (owner, GM, coaches, player, agent, national commentators, local beat reporters, some of the RI herd) knows that he will not be here for the start of the season anyway.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 14, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I wish somebody would step up and give us a 4th rounder for this guy so we don't have to read about how badly he has been treated. This will be approaching Leigh Torrence/Rock Cartwright territory shortly. If he is on the roster, he should be at the minicamp.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 14, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

The Skins will trade Haynesworth to the Lions for the #2 overall pick. They'll draft Okung and then draft either Berry or Baluga with the #4 pick. You heard it here first, folks.

Posted by: Special-K | April 14, 2010 10:01 AM |

0% chance we get the #2 pick, unless we were more players/picks to the deal, and even then its unlikely.

Wouldn't you rather have the #2 pick than AH?

Then why don't you think the Lions would too?

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Campbell being at team events right now would be like my ex wife coming to my next wedding. JUST NOT RIGHT.

What blows my mind is a gimpy Carter can show up to support his team but Fat Albert continues to support his team playing Gods Of War 3 on his play station 3 while eating 10 whoppers, with cheese, that I freakin paid for!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 14, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Advise to JC: As a starting QB in the NFL, you don't put your head in the sand and hide. you honor your contract, show up, look all doubter in the eye and participate. Leading others thru tough times start with leading self.

Posted by: bball4sho | April 14, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

If he is on the roster, he should be at the minicamp.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 14, 2010 10:04 AM

I thought the coach said JC doesn't need to be there. What does it mean when your boss says "You don't need to come to work for a while"?

They don't want him to get hurt and ruin his slim trade value.

Posted by: League-Source | April 14, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you rather have the #2 pick than AH?

Then why don't you think the Lions would too?

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Financial reasons.

They'd pay AH less than half of what they would pay out to the player they pick at 2.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 14, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell to the Saints in exchange for Jammal Brown (OT). Saints are not re-signing Brunell (and Campbell is better than Brunell, right?) and Jermon Bushrod makes RFA tender signature hold out Brown redundant.

Book it (please ... or at least ask Shanahallen to book it).

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

What blows my mind is a gimpy Carter can show up to support his team but Fat Albert continues to support his team playing Gods Of War 3 on his play station 3 while eating 10 whoppers, with cheese, that I freakin paid for!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 14, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse


What blows my mind is that Fat Albert can sit around in the offseason playing Gods of War while Andre Carter works his ar$e off; and yet when the season begins and guys actually get on the field and play Andre Carter desperately needs AH next to him in order to be relevant and have any kind of impact.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"When has Campbell cried about anything?"
Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 9:57 AM

You don't remember the "I feel like a piece of used toilet paper" line from last season?

Posted by: Jason10


T.O. crying every other week about not getting the ball enough = crying


Campbell's "I feel like used toilet paper" line = nothing


If Campbell wanted to go into full b*tch mode about what has gone on the last two years, he could have.

And would have been well within his rights to do so.

These people saying that Campbell got a good deal here, are playing themselves. Two glaring reasons make that notion impossible.

1) Jim Zorn
2) Offensive line

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The Skins will trade Haynesworth to the Lions for the #2 overall pick. They'll draft Okung and then draft either Berry or Baluga with the #4 pick. You heard it here first, folks.

Posted by: Special-K | April 14, 2010 10:01 AM |

0% chance we get the #2 pick, unless we were more players/picks to the deal, and even then its unlikely.

Wouldn't you rather have the #2 pick than AH?

Then why don't you think the Lions would too?

I know it's not going to happen, but I wouldnt give it a 0% chance. Let's call it 7%. 1)That coach knows Haynesworth and knows what he can get out of him. 2)Taking on his contract is cheaper than taking on the #2 pick's contract and the Lions are stingy. 3) They're most likely taking Suh anyway who is Haynesworth-like... might as well take the original.

Let me have my fun...

Posted by: Special-K | April 14, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

JC for Ronnie Brown. Book it. Oh look, a winged unicorn just flew by.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 14, 2010 9:45 AM

Post of the Day.....

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

These people saying that Campbell got a good deal here, are playing themselves. Two glaring reasons make that notion impossible.

1) Jim Zorn
2) Offensive line

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:10 AM

$21 million is never a bad deal.

Posted by: League-Source | April 14, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Financial reasons.

They'd pay AH less than half of what they would pay out to the player they pick at 2.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 14, 2010 10:09 AM

A valid point. Still don't see it happening though. But I will concede to SpecialK and give it a 7% chance.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Campbell is off the squad--move on.
TB, take that racist sh!t elsewhere.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 14, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but I'll never get over how far athletes (even classy ones like JC) are detached from the real working world.

He "needs more time to deal with becoming backup on the team"? Uggggggg!

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

No one in touch with reality thinks Jason Campbell is going through a difficult situation.

Posted by: p1funk

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Spoken like two fellas that have never played a sport before.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell to the Saints in exchange for Jammal Brown (OT). Saints are not re-signing Brunell (and Campbell is better than Brunell, right?) and Jermon Bushrod makes RFA tender signature hold out Brown redundant.

Book it (please ... or at least ask Shanahallen to book it).

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:09 AM

Now theres a good idea. Plus, I just like to say "Bushrod".

We could extend Brown's career by putting him at RT and Okung on the LT would be a huuuuuuuuge improvement at the tackle spots.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

it's not fair to say he "can't" lead you to a game-winning score when clearly he has. You don't have to like the guy, just give him credit for the few times he's done something exceptional.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Uh,yes it is fair to say that he cant lead us in that situation if you can only give me one time in 3 years that he's done it.I f I pay my car note on time once in 3 years I think my credit report is gonna suck dsepite that once when I was on time.Thats my point and I think you know that.

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you rather have the #2 pick than AH?

Then why don't you think the Lions would too?

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:05 AM

Detroit and the Big Media fed world has the Lions taking Suh or McCoy. A top pick is a bird in the bush. Haynesworth is a bid in the hand. Plus Schwartz was the defensive coordinator who made Haynesworth the happy player he once was. In addition to Haynesworth's performance being guaranteed, his salary is also a known.

That said, Lions will pick Okung anyway.

The Skins' solution for the OT positions is going to be to pick up whichever veterans get cut to make salary sense given the incoming the first round LT that gets drafted. Keep your eyes open for Jeff Backus or Khalif Barnes (or the older of the two starting tackles on whichever other teams draft Okung, Williams, Bulaga, the guy from Rutgers, Davis, and etc.).

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

These people saying that Campbell got a good deal here, are playing themselves. Two glaring reasons make that notion impossible.

1) Jim Zorn
2) Offensive line

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:10 AM

$21 million is never a bad deal.

Posted by: League-Source


Campbell has made 21 million dollars since he's been here?

Besides, even if he did, who cares how much money he's made. To determine if a person got a fair shot or not you got to look at other things besides money.

To just say that Campbell got 3 mil for going 4-12 is just dense.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

As much as people talk about how unfair the organization has been to JC, people forget that JC was handed the starting QB spot and coddled as the starter for some time.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:54 AM


So was Philip Rivers, what's your point?

If you spend a 1st rounder on a guy, you throw him in there--sink or swim. Blaming JC for what management did is pretty misplaced, IMO. Plus it has absolutely nothing to do with whether he ultimately succeeded or failed here.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

People wanted Campbell to be more vocal and say things like he said, then when he did people said he should STFU...

Wtf? You can't have it both ways. Or in other words it's okay for Portis to speak his mind, but when Campbell does it he's viewed as a malcontent.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 9:57 AM

WTF to your WTF??

Dude is crying a river right now....

I haven't been listening to the radio lately, but I heard this from Czaban yesterday:

Czabe and Coooooley were playing golf over the weekend....and casually asked about how's JC doing....Cooley was like he's taking it hard...STILL....

I don't know about your generalizing, but with me specifically, I wanted him to be a leader on the field by his actions 1st. But that never came to fruitition (sp?). All we ended up getting were sound bites about irrelevant stuff.

When Portis speaks, it's atleast about Football. JC - not so much. But Portis is irrelavant to the circumstances. I am talking in present tense.

I know this subject hasn't been broached yet.....But....

Is it possible that JC is hurt because McNAbb, a fellow Black QB he admired and former mentor, picked HIS team?? If it was just some random white QB, would he be here fighting? Is he scared to stand up to McNabb? Is he too nice to come in and Stand up to this B.S.? Can only Black bloggers answer this (I don't think so)?

I ain't even gonna lie....I thought about this as soon as it happened.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

A valid point. Still don't see it happening though. But I will concede to SpecialK and give it a 7% chance.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I don't see it happening either. Just giving you the argument for.

Really doubt it would be a straight up trade. There would have to be other pieces involved to make the $ right for the Skins.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 14, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

"What does it mean when your boss says "You don't need to come to work for a while"?

They don't want him to get hurt and ruin his slim trade value.

Posted by: League-Source"

Yea, that's it. Shanahan doesn't want Campbell at minicamp because he's afraid Campbell will get hurt in non-contact drills where QBs wearing red jerseys aren't to be touched anyway. If only Shanahan could guarantee Jason's safety, he would want Campbell at the minicamp learning his playbook, so that when Campbell gets traded away, he'll have more value for the other team.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

What has he done since?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 14, 2010 9:56 AM

Been tutored by Zorn who "fixed"* his mechanic.

* I had the cat get "fixed." From the cat's perspective, the "fixing" didn't result in things working as well as they did before.

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the Redskins are still searching for defensive line help. Although everyone agrees the offensive line needs the most help.

Source: Howard Green visiting the Washington RedskinsVeteran defensive lineman meeting with team officials

Aaron Wilson

April 14, 2010, 01:05 AM EST

Veteran free agent defensive tackle Howard Green continues his visit with the Washington Redskins today, according to an NFL source with knowledge of the situation.

Green, 31, is a 6-foot-2, 320-pound former LSU player who was drafted in the sixth round in the 2002 NFL draft by the Houston Texans.

He played last season for the New York Jets and has previous stints with the Seattle Seahawks, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints and the Baltimore Ravens.

In a dozen games last season with the Jets, who made it to the AFC championship game, Green recorded 23 tackles.

For his career, Green has registered 78 tackles, one sack and two forced fumbles.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Howard-Green-visiting-the-Washington-Redskins.html

Posted by: t1205 | April 14, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Jason Cambell was brought into DC in the mold of being the teams next Doug Williams. Everyone knew that and everyone forgot that Willams also struggled his first few years, and was in his 12th year as a pro before going to the superbowl.

Now McNabb is being labeled the next John Elway.

Lets see what happens.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 14, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

JC had a good O-line for the first two years plus.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 14, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but I'll never get over how far athletes (even classy ones like JC) are detached from the real working world.

He "needs more time to deal with becoming backup on the team"? Uggggggg!

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

No one in touch with reality thinks Jason Campbell is going through a difficult situation.

Posted by: p1funk

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Spoken like two fellas that have never played a sport before.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse


Like I said...no one IN TOUCH WITH REALITY thinks Jason Campbell is going through a "difficult situation".

Anyways, psps, weren't you the one up here arguing that Brandon Marshall and Jason Campbell have equal "value" in the NFL b/c they both got first round tenders?

If that was you, I'm curious to know how likely you think it is that the Skins get two 2nd-rounders for Campbell.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Uh,yes it is fair to say that he cant lead us in that situation if you can only give me one time in 3 years that he's done it.I f I pay my car note on time once in 3 years I think my credit report is gonna suck dsepite that once when I was on time.Thats my point and I think you know that.

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 10:20 AM


Bad example...your car note is a scheduled payment. If you have to dig your team out of a 4th quarter deficit every other week, you've got a problem that extends far beyond your QB.

And that's exactly the case with the Redskins.

It's more like nailing a hot chick on the first date...sure it's been done many times, but it's still pretty cool if you can pull it off at least once. It obviously looks better if you can do it routinely, but if you do it once nobody can say you can't do it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

psp, actually its legit, he could tear an achilles/acl running drills without being touched...then what do you do....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Greg - you hooked Risa_L last night...but is that really Lisa_R, and if it is, was she making fun of herself by willingly accepting the bait?

So many questions....

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

So 4th, because Cooley told Czabe that Campbell is "taking it really hard" that means that you'll take that to the bank?

How do you know how he meant it like that?

You don't because it didn't come from Campbell.

And how can you say that he's "crying a river right now" when for the last few weeks we haven't heard sh*t from him.

"When Portis speaks, it's at least about Football. JC - not so much."

You lost me with that one. It's not like when Campbell is voicing his concern he's talking about the imbalance of hot/cold water in the showers at the stadium.

Campbell talks about football when speaking out. I don't know where you dug up that gem.

And 4th, I reference Portis because you ALWAYS give that dude the benefit of the doubt.

I got respect for both Campbell and Portis. Both of them got fu_ked by porous offensive line play.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Ugh, another JC debate. Why don't we have another Haynesworth debate instead.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 14, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

psp, actually its legit, he could tear an achilles/acl running drills without being touched...then what do you do....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

or he could grow too old to trade, while trying to read the new D

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 14, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"Spoken like two fellas that have never played a sport before.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:19 AM |"

Spoken a guy who has no argument with facts, so he insults. Just like a little child on a playground.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 14, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

As much as people talk about how unfair the organization has been to JC, people forget that JC was handed the starting QB spot and coddled as the starter for some time.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 9:54 AM


So was Philip Rivers, what's your point?

If you spend a 1st rounder on a guy, you throw him in there--sink or swim. Blaming JC for what management did is pretty misplaced, IMO. Plus it has absolutely nothing to do with whether he ultimately succeeded or failed here.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse


What I'm blaming JC and other for is that playing up the situation like he's been treated soooo unfairly by the Skins organization - and folks like JReid are helping that narrative along.

The guy was handed 52 starts in this organization and never subjected to any real competition for the starting QB spot. So when do we stop playing the "victim" card on behalf of JC??

He's gotten plenty of playing time and has made some nice money to boot.

When is the pity party going to end for this guy?

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

ryp, again, for about the billionth time, I post what I see...nothing, NOTHING is changed....hurts man...hurts..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Is it possible that JC is hurt because McNAbb, a fellow Black QB he admired and former mentor, picked HIS team?? If it was just some random white QB, would he be here fighting? Is he scared to stand up to McNabb? Is he too nice to come in and Stand up to this B.S.? Can only Black bloggers answer this (I don't think so)?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 10:24 AM

Its possible, but its unlikely. I think you're over-analyzing this. A man's work is his life (or something like that ... ask Karl Marx to explain). Campbell's work was being a starting QB in the NFL. That has been taken away. He doesn't have a starting job lined up elsewhere. That is why JC is "hurt."

Also, you're a d!ck for complaining about a guy "crying a river" over losing his job. From your perspective, its past history and time to move on. From his perspective, he just lost his job a few weeks ago. [I don't even know how Czaben replied to Cooley's remark, but Czaben is generally a d!ck too.] Getting fired sucks, and it still sucks for a while even after you get a new job. Sorry to get preachy, but friends don't let friends be d!cks.

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

The issue of a lack of 4th quarter comebacks also has to do with the fact that this team has frequently been down by more than a TD by the 4th quarter. I mean its one thing to lead a single scoring drive in the 4th, but 2-4 drives is a taller order.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 14, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I heard rumors that the Stillers might trade Big Ben to the Rams for this year's first overall pick and next year's first. Rams should do it. Every team needs a solid rapist.

Posted by: Special-K | April 14, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Where is this "Campbell is hurt" stuff coming from?

Because he doesn't show up to training camp?

Because a teammate told a radio personality that "he's taking it hard" on the 9th hole at the golf course?

Gotta say I'm in awe of the shallow thinking going on around here...

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Veteran free agent defensive tackle Howard Green continues his visit with the Washington Redskins today, according to an NFL source with knowledge of the situation.

Green, 31, is a 6-foot-2, 320-pound former LSU player who was drafted in the sixth round in the 2002 NFL draft by the Houston Texans.

Posted by: t1205 | April 14, 2010 10:29 AM

The NFL site shows that Green is RFA and under contract. This is curious.

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell to the Saints in exchange for Jammal Brown (OT). Saints are not re-signing Brunell (and Campbell is better than Brunell, right?) and Jermon Bushrod makes RFA tender signature hold out Brown redundant.

Book it (please ... or at least ask Shanahallen to book it).

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:09 AM

Let's take it a step further. JC and LL to the Saints (you know GG loves his old player), for J Brown and the Saints 2nd rounder this year. The Redskins get their starting LT, while recouping a 2nd round pick and simultaneously getting rid of the two players solely responsible for the Skins 4-12 record last year.

Posted by: TWISI | April 14, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Greg - you hooked Risa_L last night...but is that really Lisa_R, and if it is, was she making fun of herself by willingly accepting the bait?

So many questions....

Posted by: Rypien11

Risa_L is definitely NOT me. It's some troll guy (it is a guy) who is trying to stir things up on here. Originally he was posting crazy racism stuff and then he turned to copying all MY posts from a month ago.

I'm no longer going to post since it seems like my posts are fodder for the idiot. I'm sure this post will be back on here tonight under his name. Ignore the clown.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 14, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Its possible, but its unlikely. I think you're over-analyzing this. A man's work is his life (or something like that ... ask Karl Marx to explain). Campbell's work was being a starting QB in the NFL. That has been taken away. He doesn't have a starting job lined up elsewhere. That is why JC is "hurt."

Also, you're a d!ck for complaining about a guy "crying a river" over losing his job. From your perspective, its past history and time to move on. From his perspective, he just lost his job a few weeks ago. [I don't even know how Czaben replied to Cooley's remark, but Czaben is generally a d!ck too.] Getting fired sucks, and it still sucks for a while even after you get a new job. Sorry to get preachy, but friends don't let friends be d!cks.

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse


If we were talking about Brad Johnson getting shown the door for Jeff George, I would sympathize.

We are talking about Jason Campbell getting shown the door for DM5.

Campbell is "hurt" because he got "fired".

Maybe he should look in the mirror and realize he had alot to do with losing his job. Again, when are we gonna stop treating this guy like a charity case? When are we gonna run out of "victim cards" to play on his behalf?

He got fired because he wasn't good enough to keep his job.

That hurts, fine. But unlike his cheerleading squad JReid and Wilbon, I Campbell has the sense to take this time off to look in the mirror instead of point the finger

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

In St. Louis Big Ben would blend right in. Hell imagine if he was there and Rush had brought the team. The could have simply changed their names from the Rams to the
St. Louis Super Duper Mega DBags.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 14, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

My mistake Greg/Lisa.

TWISI - I like that idea, but I think we'd be getting the better of the Saints in that deal.

And I wouldn't call JC and LL "solely responsible" for us being 4-12.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 14, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Where is this "Campbell is hurt" stuff coming from?

Because he doesn't show up to training camp?

Because a teammate told a radio personality that "he's taking it hard" on the 9th hole at the golf course?

Gotta say I'm in awe of the shallow thinking going on around here...

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse


Red, did you read the post?

He "needs more time to deal with being the backup on this team".

C'mon. Either JC is having a pity party or JReid is on his behalf.

Either way it's time to turn off the violins and shut it down...

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

If the Redskins don't address the OL ...
Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 14, 2010 7:51 AM
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I'm sorry but comments like this are idiotic. Do you really think there's any chance that Shanny/Allen WON'T???

Posted by: shanks1 | April 14, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

ITA Risa_L. Got it. It's prolly SIGN CHRIS COOLEY - lol.

Don't stop postin' tho, Lis.

I'm kinda thinkin' they're not wanting Soup around because of the distraction and pointlessness of it. It also supports the "going to draft a QB" angle.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 14, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth avoiding voluntary minicamp as trade talks continue
Jason La Canfora | NFL Network


Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth will not attend this weekend's voluntary minicamp, according to a league source.

Haynesworth, who remains hopeful of a trade, will only attend mandatory offseason activities.

League sources remain convinced the Redskins will try to move Haynesworth -- who is balking at playing nose tackle in their new 3-4 scheme -- prior to the draft despite picking up a $21 million bonus at the start of the month.

New coach Mike Shanahan would like to reshape the locker room and eradicate potential issues and distractions. The Tennessee Titans, Haynesworth's former team, and the Detroit Lions, coached by former Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, remain interested in Haynesworth, according to league sources.

The Redskins were seeking a third-round pick when they shopped Haynesworth before picking up the option, according to a league source, at a time when another team would have had to pay him the bonus. Now, with Haynesworth's remaining salary more manageable, the Redskins would hope to get a second-round pick for him.

The Titans do not have a second-round pick in 2010, and the Lions' second-round pick is very high, which could complicate things, but the potential for a deal is still there.

Redskins sources would also not be surprised if the team shopped safety LaRon Landry and defensive end Andre Carter before the draft, looking to add picks to their limited 2010 selections (they lack second- and third-round picks). The Redskins are also allowing quarterback Jason Campbell to pursue a trade, although getting more than a fifth-round pick for him could be difficult at this point.

Posted by: TWISI | April 14, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Let's take it a step further. JC and LL to the Saints (you know GG loves his old player), for J Brown and the Saints 2nd rounder this year. The Redskins get their starting LT, while recouping a 2nd round pick and simultaneously getting rid of the two players solely responsible for the Skins 4-12 record last year.

Posted by: TWISI | April 14, 2010 10:42 AM


Interesting proposal with all the greg williams back story. Heck not as absurd as trading a say D McNabb in the same division to the perenial laghing stock of the league that lack a legit leader at the QB position. Man I hope shanny can do his elway magic with this scenerio and make philly pay!!!!!!!!!!!LAUGHING STOCK NO MORE.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 14, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

There doesn't seem to be much of a market for Campbell. If there was he would have been traded by now. I think his agent will have hard time finding a team willing to say he will be a starter. Maybe the Raiders or Bills but that's about it. Henne has looked good for Miami so I'm not sure why they would give up picks for Campbell.

I really think Campbell as some great talent is a dream of a small group of fans here in DC. To the rest of the NFL he just another lousy QB.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | April 14, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"Like I said...no one IN TOUCH WITH REALITY thinks Jason Campbell is going through a "difficult situation"."

And as I said, spoken like someone that has never played a sport before.

And the REALITY of it is that the consequences of the McNabb trade go much further than the non-guaranteed $3 million, one-year offer given to Campbell. The REALITY of it is that the guy likely will have to uproot his family and move elsewhere, it's likely he could have lost upwards of $20-30 million, and he'll now be fighting for a job in one of the least secure businesses in the US that has almost no transferability to any other avenue of work available. Ask Marcus Washington how he's doing with his NFL career since being released by the Redskins.

Of course, anyone stuck in fantasy-land sees "$3 million" and automatically thinks "he must be in heaven". What a fool Campbell is for considering any downside to what just happened to him.

"Anyways, psps, weren't you the one up here arguing that Brandon Marshall and Jason Campbell have equal "value" in the NFL b/c they both got first round tenders?"

I never argued that. Seriously, nothing that preposterous has even come close to being expressed by me.

I said you can't proclaim that Campbell doesn't have value because nobody has traded for him due to the fact that nobody had traded for Brandon Marshall, despite the same tender placed on him.

Shocker, Marshall eventually got traded. Who would have thought he had value after sitting on the market for so long?

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | April 14, 2010 10:37 AM

Sween, come on son. You can't be serious. Lost his job? I know you don't like the trade but give me a break. He hasn't lost his job. He just signed a contract to get paid $3M this year. He's a professional athlete not some 10 year-old on rec league team. If he bucks up and accepts this challenge, he could very well have "his job" back. If Campbell came, learned the offense, and showed the stuff his acolytes contend he has, I have to believe MS would prefer him over Grossman.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 14, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm starting to wonder, shanks. They haven't really shored anything up yet. Maybe they really think there's a modicum of talent here on OL, contrary to our experience.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 14, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

At the end of the day Red....I would rather have JC here and not traded. Portis too. And the line doesn't need an extreme makeover.

End of Story........

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

UFL news update for the 4 people up here that care about the long term success of pro-style football.

The UFL will be putting their 5th team for the season in Omaha. Guesses are they will play at the new Minor League Baseball stadium being put down town, which is ideal because it is set to hold around the 20,000 people that the UFL hopes for turnout.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 14, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

When trade talk comes up we hear about Carter, Haynesworth, Campbell, and Landry. I don't think the new regime is going to be delighted with Doughty and Horton, either. They want safeties that are more like pass defenders than run supporters. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see either of these guys traded, too. I still think the team would be well served to move Carlos Rogers to free safety and let Landry play his more natural position at strong safety. Landry will be asked to do less in Haslett's defense and this might ultimately make Landry live up to his potential.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 14, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

p1, just because Reid is making Campbell out to be a sympathetic figure doesn't mean that Campbell is on suicide watch.

"Needs more time to deal with being the backup on this team" are Reid's words not Campbell's.

Until I hear Campbell complain about his time here, you know the source of all this SPECULATION, then I'm tuning the rest of the bullsh*t out.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

JC should not only skip minicamp, he should skip the whole season. He wouldn't be missed(except for JReid). Perhaps his brother Obama could get him a job as czar of crybabies.

Posted by: theBozyn1 | April 14, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Considering B Marshall went for two 2nd round picks (supposedly), AH should get the Skins something very similar. The Skins could walk away with a boat load of picks if they are willing to let all these players go.

Posted by: TWISI | April 14, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Hey Reid,
Can you ask Adam at ESPN to find a trad partner for Jason Camp, please? We really need this, also can you, Reid, stop talking about Jason and Albert and and instead talk about LL, Rogers. talk to us what will happen, not what happened. thanks man keep up the good work

Posted by: Skins2 | April 14, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Bdub you're missing my point.Yeah the car note is scheduled but how I pay it is recorded which means I have a track record.JC's one 4th quarter win in 3 years does not a track record make.Would you loan me money for a new car knowing I've paid my current loan on time once in 3 years?

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 14, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

The thing is I'm not even a Campbell fan, but the opinions on Campbell's character or his present demeanor due to his misgivings as a QB are a little whacked in my opinion.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Besides, even if he did, who cares how much money he's made. To determine if a person got a fair shot or not you got to look at other things besides money.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:23 AM

Do you even understand work? You get a salary and you deliver a service. You look at both aspects -- what you give and what you get.

Coal miners get paid next to nothing and risk their lives. JC works six months a year, has a much lower injury risk, and made $21 million off his rookie contract.

When you "look at other things besides money" you realize how ridiculous it is to come up here and claim that "JC has been treated badly." He gave what he could, and he got a load of money in return. He has been treated better than 95% of the men who join the NFL, and 99.999% of the people in the world.

Posted by: League-Source | April 14, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

And the REALITY of it is that the consequences of the McNabb trade go much further than the non-guaranteed $3 million, one-year offer given to Campbell. The REALITY of it is that the guy likely will have to uproot his family and move elsewhere, it's likely he could have lost upwards of $20-30 million, and he'll now be fighting for a job in one of the least secure businesses in the US that has almost no transferability to any other avenue of work available. Ask Marcus Washington how he's doing with his NFL career since being released by the Redskins.

Of course, anyone stuck in fantasy-land sees "$3 million" and automatically thinks "he must be in heaven". What a fool Campbell is for considering any downside to what just happened to him.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse


Ha! This is great!

Anyone out there want to co-sign onto psps's take?

I'M not in touch with reality b/c I don't understand the devastating consequences of only being able to make $3mill/year as opposed to $20mill over several years?!?!

That's your counterpoint??


By the way, Jason Campbell isn't married and doesn't have a "family".

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Skins2 Rogers has been buying into the program lately. I'd be surprised if he's moved.

http://blog.redskins.com/2010/04/13/carlos-rogers-seems-pretty-happy-with-the-current-situation/

Posted by: TWISI | April 14, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

"Like I said...no one IN TOUCH WITH REALITY thinks Jason Campbell is going through a "difficult situation"."

And as I said, spoken like someone that has never played a sport before.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse


And why do you keep saying that...I've played sports before. But why is that even relevant?

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Risa_L is definitely NOT me. It's some troll guy (it is a guy) who is trying to stir things up on here.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 14, 2010 10:42 AM

Risa_L = Rotfrau

Posted by: League-Source | April 14, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

p1, just because Reid is making Campbell out to be a sympathetic figure doesn't mean that Campbell is on suicide watch.

"Needs more time to deal with being the backup on this team" are Reid's words not Campbell's.

Until I hear Campbell complain about his time here, you know the source of all this SPECULATION, then I'm tuning the rest of the bullsh*t out.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse


Great. Then please join me in petitioning JReid to stop crying on Campbell's behalf.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth avoiding voluntary minicamp as trade talks continue
Jason La Canfora | NFL Network

I love the quotes from Jasno professing that Haynesworth definitely won’t be there for this weekend’s mini camp, that he is “balking” at playing nose tackle, and “remains hopeful of a trade”.

More fuel for the inevitable upcoming fistfight between Shanahan and Hanynesoworth.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 14, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

How about Campbell man-ups and gets to camp and WINS the starting job. You don't let a man come into your house and take what he wants: You don't let an eagle come into your locker room and take your job (without a fight). Prove the critics wrong and show you have the heart and the fight to be the Skins QB.

Posted by: mrjimbuchanan | April 14, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

It's good for him to skip; it's also good that they didn't add another drunken womanbeater to the roster. JC has to look at for himself now.

Posted by: kahlua87 | April 14, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Considering B Marshall went for two 2nd round picks (supposedly), AH should get the Skins something very similar. The Skins could walk away with a boat load of picks if they are willing to let all these players go.

Posted by: TWISI | April 14, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

True. Especially if you consider AH contract is relatively cheap at this point. Miami traded those picks and Marshall is going to have to pay out a lot of money next year to keep him.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 14, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Ask Marcus Washington how he's doing with his NFL career since being released by the Redskins.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse


I'd love to ask Marcus Washington that question, but I don't hang out with him.

I'm not part of the ex-pro-ballers millionaire club, so the likelihood of me rubbing elbows with Marcus is pretty slim.

But I hope Marcus Washington had the good sense to stash away a few million of the bucks he made as a ball-player and can now enjoy the freedom to do any number of things that he wants - travel, go back to school, start a small business or foundation, go on a speaker's circuit, or just make some investments and play golf.

Hopefully he doesn't have his head as far up his ar$e as you seem to and is stuck in a depression because he ONLY made $X millions of dollars as a pro athlete instead of $Y millions of dollars.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

If there are no takers or at the very least a 4th rounder for Campbell he may stay and back up DM5. New regime and pressure is no longer on him to deliver. Both parties would benifit afterall 3mil is 3mil. He might be willing to further let his pride go down the drain.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 14, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse


League Source,

Forgive me. I haven't been around since the Woodrow Wilson administration, so I haven't worked for the last damn near seventy years like you.

And please, STOP it with comparisons with pro athletes and every day 9-5 working people. Because "99.9999%" of the world can't do what these guys do.

I mean you compares coal miners to a NFL quarterback. Your argument was skewed once you made that comparison.

Campbell got paid the money he makes because giving his situation that is the standard in his profession.

Coal Miners ≠ NFL Quarterback

Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

if you're not FIRST. You're LAST!

beeps.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 14, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

blip=blip

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 14, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

What I'm blaming JC and other for is that playing up the situation like he's been treated soooo unfairly by the Skins organization - and folks like JReid are helping that narrative along.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:36 AM


I haven't heard him say any such thing. Just because JReid is his unofficial 3rd nut doesn't mean that JC is sitting around pouting.

He's said all the right things publicly and you're basing this whole thing on something Cooley said. It just baffles me that you can take the position you do on Haynesworth and then take the exact polar opposite with JC.

And I wish people would stop with the "JC had his chance" crap...I mean, the '06 team sucked long before he came in there and was essentially a rookie. He played fairly well the next year and got hurt. Despite learning ANOTHER playbook, he had a great start to the '08 season and fell apart when the O-line did at mid-season. And last year, he played his best year to date in spite of playing behind an abysmal O-line.

I'm fine with the new regime coming in here and deciding they don't want him and moving on. But let's not act like JC had every chance to succeed here because he hasn't.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 14, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I think Campbell shouldn't come to minicamp, stay home & collect his check. The Skins screwed him around all this time. Time for a little payback. Sit on your butt & collect a $3M check to do nothing! When the Skins draft a kicker or some dumb ish like that instead of a LT, McNabb will be on his back, (just like JC all last season) and he can go to the bank with $3M for nothing! I like McNabb as the next Skins fan, but without an OLine, he's doomed just like Campbell has been his whole career.

Posted by: kevin_jackson1 | April 14, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"But why is that even relevant?

Posted by: p1funk"

You've been an athlete before but you can't understand the difference between playing and not playing?

"I'M not in touch with reality b/c I don't understand the devastating consequences of only being able to make $3mill/year as opposed to $20mill over several years?!?!"

No, you're not in touch with reality because you don't understand the consequences between making $3 million for one year as opposed to making $20-30 over several.

Or are you one of those guys that sees the $3 million figure and assume that's what he's making every year for the rest of his life?

And don't get it twisted, I'm not saying Campbell is in dire straits right now.

But if you can't see that this man is at a career crossroads with significant impact to his future, then I don't know what to tell you.

Posted by: psps23 | April 14, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

1) It's voluntary.
2) Shanny is okay with him skipping it
3) It's voluntary

Having said that, I would like for him to be there to get experience with the system in case he stays to back up D-Mac. But I sure understand why he won't.

Posted by: largetony86 | April 14, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Is it great news all you Campbell fans??? he could end up in Pittsburgh, where they "do things right". He will find stability there I'm sure. I think Ben was sacked more than Campbell last year, but everyone agrees their oline was/is better than the one in DC. GOOD FRIGGIN RIDANCE

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | April 14, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Good to see JLa doesn't take BDays off....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 14, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

We went 4-12 last season coach....and we've gone 15-39 since I've been here, and you're thinking of getting rid of me for a guy who's gone 83-45?...Really?? Well I'm not coming to mini-camp, so there!

Posted by: ggt546 | April 14, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Have a question for the "regulars" on RI

What draft class do you all think is deeper in talent 2010 or 2011?

I ask because we (the redskins) only have 4 picks this year in what's being called a deep draft. Should we ride that out and draft what we can. And have a full slate of picks next year. Or give up next years draft cause this years is so deep. Either way I'm sick of not having at least the 7 we should have. We have 4 picks the eagles have 11 I know we gave them 2. Seattle and the 49ers have two 1st rounders
we have 1 pick in the top 100. Here's to hoping for a trade back and drafting Trent Williams getting into the 3rd round drafting Dan lefevour montario hardesty and Tony Washington OT that has great talent but falls because he's a sex offender maybe we should roll the dice in the late rounds and last drafting danorio Alexander WR for mizzouri

Posted by: Superman321 | April 14, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Breaking news: video of JC and his agent visting Ashburn and going into lockerroom. Looks like JC is going to show what he's made of.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 14, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

What blows my mind is that Fat Albert can sit around in the offseason playing Gods of War while Andre Carter works his ar$e off; and yet when the season begins and guys actually get on the field and play Andre Carter desperately needs AH next to him in order to be relevant and have any kind of impact.

Posted by: p1funk | April 14, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

It blows my mind that people keep saying this. If you look at the stats more then half of Carter's sacks came while Haynesworth was gasping for air on the sideline or "hurt" for the 135th time.

So I guess we should pay Golston 56 billion dollars since he must be why Carter was awesome too!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 14, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

the somone else's qb some are looking for to go down in the preseason could be mcnabb if this o-line is not retooled,and it is a good possibility that mcnabb will not start all 16games,and if any of you think grossman will beat out campbell you are using some serious heroin from afghanistan. campbell needs to go to the mini camp and compete if he gets traded fine. don't expect to get much for any player's on this team as far as draft picks are concerned teams know wash. needs picks and anyone who is traded will NOT bring a high pick and I doubt a mid pick (other than their 1st rd. pick) campbell maybe one day he will learn to stop wearing his emotions on his sleeve this is a cut-throat business and world full of racist's bigots,demons,nazi's kkk'ers idiots etc. go out do your work, be nice at home and with your friends but in the "real world put on you game face.

Posted by: wathu19 | April 14, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Why is Campbell in such a rush to leave? I think it would be to his advantage to get coached up by Shanahan and watch a veteran like McNabb, to finally take his game to the next level. Moving to a sorry team that can't protect a QB just to "start" isn't going to make him a better or a winning QB. McNabb is bound to get hurt this year so why not stay pat and enjoy a team on the comeup?

Posted by: TonyEnzo | April 14, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I have to laugh at all the JC haters who refuse to listen to NFL Analyst on why there hasn't been much talk on trading JC. It would be silly for anyone to take JC right now, some are hoping we'll cut him, others think they can get a better deal during the draft, and still others may not want to show their hand this early.

Another thing is the only people I have heard say JC isn't a legit starter in this league are fans that blame JC for how bad we have been the last few years.

With an OL that ranked 29th, and a running game that only averaged 94 yds a game,and at times JC picked up a number of those yards, he still kept us in the game, we lost 6 games by 5 points or less.

Campbell had 20 TD’s, an 86.5% passing rating, and threw for more yards than Eli Manning or Donavan McNabb (3,618 yds.) in 2009.

JC has managed to improve each year even though he has had at least 3 new systems to learn. JC was rated at #15. The only other QB's who ranked higher but had a worse OL was Aron Rodgers 4th and Big Ben 5th.

I don't know how anyone can ask for more from a QB, this man had his brains beat in and still played every game, I only hope he swallows his pride one more time and stays as back up, it would be great for us, he'll likely get playing time and it will make him a better QB.

Posted by: DDunnuck | April 14, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

MPNangle is giving out free BJs on Draft Day at Redskins Park to anyone who will allow him.

Basically, as you may already know based upon his posts, he is not very bright and has problems discerning what is occurring before his eyes. It is hard for MPNangle to identify "reality" vs the "fantasy" that he concocts in his "head" while going through life.

Hopefully, he'll die soon after Draft Day.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 14, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Campbell, Jason
Year Base Salary Total Salary
2009 2,857,500 2,864,780
2008 1,235,000 1,240,400
2007 572,500 578,020
2006 350,000 4,365,170
2005 230,000 1,190,000

Posted by: dbailey211 | April 14, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Campbell, Jason
Year Base Salary Total Salary
2009 2,857,500 2,864,780
2008 1,235,000 1,240,400
2007 572,500 578,020
2006 350,000 4,365,170
2005 230,000 1,190,000

Posted by: dbailey211 | April 14, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Anything that will make it LESS likely Campbell will be on the Redskins I'm all for... skip camp.. skip everything.. just find another team to LOSE FOR!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | April 15, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I have to laugh at all the JC haters who refuse to listen to NFL Analyst on why there hasn't been much talk on trading JC. It would be silly for anyone to take JC right now, some are hoping we'll cut him, others think they can get a better deal during the draft, and still others may not want to show their hand this early.
Posted by: DDunnuck
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This makes NO SENSE.. Let's say the Panthers really want him.. waiting for him to be cut (which Shanahan said he wouldn't do) or a better deal.. they could lose him to the Bills or Raiders. The only reason no one has tried for him even though guys like Charlie Whitehurst and Brady Quinn have been traded for is because NO ONE thinks he's that good.. And by not getting him it's no loss. It's all you Campbell lovers who thought he was something special is what's laughable..

Posted by: sovine08 | April 15, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

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