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Larry Foote still remains squarely on Redskins' radar screen

Just because a player visits Ashburn and leaves empty-handed doesn't mean he's off the Redskins' radar. That might be worth keeping in mind on a day like today when linebacker Larry Foote mills about the Arizona Cardinals' complex.

Foote was in Washington earlier this week and left without a contract, but that doesn't mean he's completely out of the Redskins' plans. In fact, it seems Foote always intended to take his Arizona trip.

"I talked to him [Tuesday] morning when he was in Washington,'' Foote's friend and former teammate James Farrior told the Pittsburgh
Tribune-Review
.

"He definitely wanted to make the trip to Arizona. He wants to take all of his trips.''

There has been no formal update on the Foote talks from either side. (For that matter, there's been no Willie Parker update either.)

Farrior was talking about Foote because the Steelers might be putting their hat in the ring. If Foote doesn't sign with the Redskins or the Cardinals, the Steelers will likely join in the Foote sweepstakes. The Cardinals just lost Karlos Dansby in free agency and could be more desperate to sign an inside linebacker than the Redskins. But Washington could use someone standing next to London Fletcher with a bit more experience playing the 3-4.

There seems to be a fair amount of slow-playing going on during this free agency cycle, as many teams -- the Redskins included -- could be waiting for players to drop their prices. Foote is reportedly seeking a deal that tops the one Scott Fujita signed with Cleveland, which is worth $14 million over three years.

By Rick Maese  |  March 11, 2010; 12:45 PM ET
Categories:  Free agency  
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Comments

He'll sign with whoever he visits last.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

So, we've still got a Foote in the door?

Posted by: League-Source | March 11, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

From the least thread, I never really pictured Larry Johnson as a “power” back. Seems like when he had his productive years in KC, they had a great OL which could help get just about any back enough room to pick up a 3rd and 1…..he’s no more of a power back than Clinton Portis is.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 11, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

He'll sign with whoever he visits last.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 12:54 PM

He'll sign with whoever pays him more.

Posted by: League-Source | March 11, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"Also, the Redskins don't have a franchise quarterback in place. Shanahan and Allen made that clear when they only gave Jason Campbell a minimum first-round contract tender - not the amount for first- and third-round picks."

Well, I'll disagree with that statement. The first round tender says that the Redskins believe it will take a first-round pick (duh) to replace JC. To me that says BAMS believes he's good enough to start for them next year.

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 11, 2010 12:33 PM

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dpc2003
No Contract Extension, notwithstanding...
It would of only cost the Skins another 124K to put the 3rd round requirement on the RFA Tender. So, by not doing so, Skins send a "lets make a deal" signal every GM recognizes..

If BA and MS wanted JC, the 2 year Contract Extension would be done by now.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

3 yrs $10.5 mil. Take it or leave it.

Posted by: TWISI | March 11, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

So, we've still got a Foote in the door?

Posted by: League-Source

Hilarious :)

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 11, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

steak fujitas ... mmmmmmm

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I'd like 3,000 chicken 'vagitas' please.

Yeah, 3,000 chicken vagitas.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

3 yrs $10.5 mil. Take it or leave it.

Posted by: TWISI | March 11, 2010 12:59 PM

I agree.

However, He's looking for a deal in the 3 year 14 mil range.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 11, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

He'll sign with whoever he visits last.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 12:54 PM

His home will be where is heart is. Whisenhut wants him ... they were on the same team that won a Super Bowl ... but LeBeau and the Steelers themselves are where he became who he is. He tried going to his actual home, Detroit, but that defense wasn't a fit for him.

The only chance the Skins have is whether they can argue that they are closer to another Super Bowl visit than Arizona or Pittsburgh.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"He (Larry Foote) definitely wanted to make the trip to Arizona. He wants to take all of his trips."

The question for Mr Foote is why he thinks he's worth Fujita money.

Too, will he take a deal that might become Fujita money provided a series of incentives are met.

I think he's over-valuing himself in a market where most teams seem to be waiting things out.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 11, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd like 3,000 chicken 'vagitas' please.

Yeah, 3,000 chicken vagitas.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 1:06 PM
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CVS has an ointment for that.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

It'd be nice to have this guy on the roster next year, but not sure they're gonna give him that kind of cash considering his age.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | March 11, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 1:08 PM

Apparently Shanny gave that argument to Kemo when he signed.

I think he should be called "He-gon'-eat-u".

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

dpc2003
No Contract Extension, notwithstanding...
It would of only cost the Skins another 124K to put the 3rd round requirement on the RFA Tender. So, by not doing so, Skins send a "lets make a deal" signal every GM recognizes..

If BA and MS wanted JC, the 2 year Contract Extension would be done by now.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

If BA and MS wanted JC, the 2 year Contract Extension would be done by now.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I think after a 4-12 season, anyone is replaceable on this team for the right offer, and just because he has a 1st round tender, doesn't mean that a team has to give up their first round pick.. it is all negotiable.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 11, 2010 1:03 PM
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to clarify.. the extra 124K would of required a 1st and 3rd round compensation. BA opted not to.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

If BA and MS wanted JC, the 2 year Contract Extension would be done by now.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I think after a 4-12 season, anyone is replaceable on this team for the right offer, and just because he has a 1st round tender, doesn't mean that a team has to give up their first round pick.. it is all negotiable.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 11, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 11, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

The only chance the Skins have is whether they can argue that they are closer to another Super Bowl visit than Arizona or Pittsburgh.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 1:08 PM

Or pay him more.

Posted by: League-Source | March 11, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, 3,000 chicken vagitas.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 1:06 PM
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Sounds like unsuccessful speed dating.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

So, we've still got a Foote in the door?

Posted by: League-Source

Hilarious :)

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 11, 2010 1:02 PM |

Lame :(

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"It would of only cost the Skins another 124K to put the 3rd round requirement on the RFA Tender. So, by not doing so, Skins send a "lets make a deal" signal every GM recognizes.."

Don't agree. The signal was "if you want to sign this guy it will cost you a first round pick". BA set the bar about where he thought Campbell was worth. If he sets it too high (1st and 3rd) then nobody will make Campbell an offer. It's not a signal to other GM's to make a deal with WAS, it's a signal for them to make a deal with Campbell.

If WAS signs Campbell to a one-year tender, it's unlikely that he goes anywhere, since they'd have to sign him to a long term contract (or let him go in FA) as well as cough up draft choices or other players.

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 11, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"The only chance the Skins have is whether they can argue that they are closer to another Super Bowl visit than Arizona or Pittsburgh."


"Or pay him more."


And that's the rub. The team is making a scheme change, needs an experienced linebacker, but doesn't want to pay Foote what he thinks he deserves.

Foote, it seems, has them over an imaginary barrel.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 11, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the players will cause a lockout b/c they're too greedy to miss a paycheck.

Posted by: davidalanwatts | March 11, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Whether or not there will be a lockout (and I think there will be) is an ownership decision, not the players'. From everything that I've read, the players are happy with the status quo and would just as soon continue under the current contract. This bee is in the owners' bonnet, and I believe the only way that the players can avoid being locked out is to settle on the owners' terms, which I don't see them doing.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 11, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 11, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 12:55 PM |

Dude - when's the old user id going to change?

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

By "they" above, I mean the team that trades for Campbell.

I think a first-round pick is a pretty high bar, and what you'd expect for a starting QB.

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 11, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"I don't think the players will cause a lockout b/c they're too greedy to miss a paycheck"

Technically, a lockout is a decision by management. The players can't cause that, only management can. Players can strike, and have before.

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 11, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 12:55 PM |

Dude - when's the old user id going to change?

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I like it. Retro. Old-school.

Posted by: RomoShortball | March 11, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Mike Florio
March 11, 2010, 12:01
With the signing of Sean Ryan by the Redskins, you can see the handwriting on the wall for Chris Cooley. Coming off an ankle injury, and with the emergence of Fred Davis, the team has a surplus of talent at the position. We're hearing that the Redskins have an agreement in place to trade Cooley to an AFC team, for a 2011 draft pick that could be as high as a 2nd rounder, based on performance.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

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I saw this, too, but Florio revised the post. Now, it seems we're trading Cooley to the Colorado Crush for John Elway. Soon, all the pieces will be in place.

Posted by: closer44 | March 11, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I think a first-round pick is a pretty high bar, and what you'd expect for a starting QB.

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 11, 2010 1:29 PM |

It would have to be more than just a starting QB, it would have to be a good young starting QB. For instance, McN is a good starting QB but he is old so no 1st round pick for this dud. On the other hand, Flac is a young starting QB but he isn't good so ditto with the 1st round pick shtick..

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Technically, a lockout is a decision by management. The players can't cause that, only management can. Players can strike, and have before.

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 11, 2010 1:32 PM |

Hey it's just as easy for the players to change the locks on Redskin Park as it is for management. It is just a question of who strikes first. Pun intended.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"It would of only cost the Skins another 124K to put the 3rd round requirement on the RFA Tender. So, by not doing so, Skins send a "lets make a deal" signal every GM recognizes.."

Don't agree. The signal was "if you want to sign this guy it will cost you a first round pick". BA set the bar about where he thought Campbell was worth. If he sets it too high (1st and 3rd) then nobody will make Campbell an offer. It's not a signal to other GM's to make a deal with WAS, it's a signal for them to make a deal with Campbell.

If WAS signs Campbell to a one-year tender, it's unlikely that he goes anywhere, since they'd have to sign him to a long term contract (or let him go in FA) as well as cough up draft choices or other players.

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 11, 2010 1:25 PM
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????
Skins could of signed JC to a one year extension.. but, opted not too.. The First Round pick the Skins could acquire was deemed more valuable than re-signing a 5 year QB vet, JC.

And as an RFA.. for only 124K dollars more, Bruce Allen could of added the required 3rd round compensation pick to the 1st round compensation pick.

By not doing so.. It says three things..

1. Skins dont want JC but want to get back at least what they spent on him (which was actually much more than a 1st..(a 3rd and 4th, too).
2. If another GM / Team wants JC, the Redskins do not want to disincentive that by requiring BOTH picks. Makes sense since they couldnt get a 2nd round pick for JC last March (when Dan peddled him). How could they expect a 1st and a 3rd this year?
3. If no team tenders an Offer... And the Skins sign him to the minimum one year Contract (its not required to be a "long term Contract"?). The signal, from all of the above, is also sent, that the Skins are still willing to trade him.
Thus, a "sign and trade" agreement could be structured after the FA period ends.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Whether or not there will be a lockout (and I think there will be) is an ownership decision, not the players'. From everything that I've read, the players are happy with the status quo and would just as soon continue under the current contract. This bee is in the owners' bonnet, and I believe the only way that the players can avoid being locked out is to settle on the owners' terms, which I don't see them doing.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 11, 2010 1:24 PM

I respectfully disagree.

The problem is, there is no status quo. The current contract, it just expired. Yes the owners opted out, because it is widely accepted that the players got the best of them last time. The decision on a lockout is tied to both sides. Both sides will be culpable in the event of a stoppage. When you are starting discussions at ground zero then it takes both sides to strike a deal.

There is no way in hell the players would agree to a continuation of 2010 labor rules with such restrictive FA rules and no salary bottom.

The key will be the players willingness to buy into the stadium construction pool and to believe the revenue #'s the owners put out. I see the players agreeing to rookie cap AND a salary cap. As things develop, I am firmly in the camp that there will be no stoppage. Somehow, both sides will realize that guys like us (Fans) could care a less about why o group of billionaires is arguing with a group of millionaires, and they will wise up.

I hate to say it, but Jerry Jones, from what I have heard from him lately, understands this, and I look for him to be a leader in getting this sorted out.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | March 11, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

skins,

How many times are you going to say the same thing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 11, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

It would have to be more than just a starting QB, it would have to be a good young starting QB. For instance, McN is a good starting QB but he is old so no 1st round pick for this dud. On the other hand, Flac is a young starting QB but he isn't good so ditto with the 1st round pick shtick..

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:36 PM

Hope you know more about livestock prices than about QB prices or someone's gonna steal your pigs and chickens.

Last "good young starting QB" was traded for a not-so-good starting QB, two first round picks, and a third round pick. And, after the trade, they didn't even think that the "good young starting QB" was all that good.

Posted by: League-Source | March 11, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

to clarify.. the extra 124K would of required a 1st and 3rd round compensation. BA opted not to.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse


I think the 1st round tender is really saying we would entertain a secound rounder, and even that has not produced any interest in JC.

They would be crazy to place a fist and 3rd, because now your saying the value for JC as a top player at his position.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 11, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

The signal, from all of the above, is also sent, that the Skins are still willing to trade him.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 1:41 PM |

Hey if some team is genuinely interested in Camp they don't need no "signal". All they need is a finger and a mouth to (a) call Allen and (b) ask him what it will take for him to trade the dud.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, most teams would experience a drop after losing arguably the greatest quarterback in NFL history, and the Broncos did.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Elway was a very good QB but NOT even close to being greatest of all-time. (See Joe Montana)

Shanny and Terrell Davis are the only reason Elway has rings (Period)

Posted by: filmchis | March 11, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm with JR on this one, Elway was certainly comparable to, and perhaps greater than, any of the all-timers, including Montana. He came through consistently in the clutch, as Montana did, but he could physically do things that Montana, as great as he was, could not. He took some Denver Broncos teams to the Super Bowl (including the one that the 'Skins beat in '87) that wouldn't even have made the playoffs with a lesser QB.

If you put Elway on Montana's 49ers teams with Walsh and Rice and the rest, I'm convinced that he would have done at least as well as Montana in terms of games and championships won. I'm not as convinced that Montana would have done as well with Elway's Broncos teams, especially before Shanahan and Terrell Davis got there.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 11, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

They would be crazy to place a fist and 3rd, because now your saying the value for JC as a top player at his position.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 11, 2010 1:46 PM

You want to use a fist on JC? That's harsh.

The other point -- which is more than symbolic -- is that they would have to pay him a higher salary if no one takes him off their hands.

Posted by: League-Source | March 11, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

still can't believe they're gonna trade cooley....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

still can't believe they're gonna trade cooley....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

yeah, amazing, isn't it .... ?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | March 11, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 11, 2010 1:49 PM |

Dude had an arm. Sitting on his arse in the north end zone he could throw a football into a strong headwind way past the south end zone.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

You had me up until "the team has a surplus of talent."

Posted by: closer44 | March 11, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

still can't believe they're gonna trade cooley....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 1:52 PM

don't jump off the ledge just yet...they also posted that Bradshaw was dead...

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 11, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

still can't believe they're gonna trade cooley....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 1:52 PM |

Now's the time to get max value for the dud.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"...still can't believe they're gonna trade cooley..."


So if they move Cooley on draft day, and we wind up with a 3rd rounder, what, you're gonna stain your jeans in disappointment?

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 11, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Elway vs Montana? Easy. Montana. If you count longevity, then its a much closer call because Montana wasn't nearly as durable.

Montana had a good arm, not as good as Elway. But Montana had the best instincts of any QB. He was very accurate, very quick with his decisions. Of course, both guys were amazingly clutch.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Dude had an arm. Sitting on his arse in the north end zone he could throw a football into a strong headwind way past the south end zone.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 1:55 PM
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sounds like the JC screen pass in the Giants game.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Montana had a good arm, ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 1:59 PM |

It was closer to mediocre than good. But being a good QB is 50% head, 25% heart and 25% arm.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

You want to use a fist on JC? That's harsh.

Posted by: League-Source | March 11, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Seems as though might be used to it.. see: dealings with FO last year.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 11, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"Elway vs Montana? Easy."

Okay, but what about "Shuler v. Ramsey"?

That's a match up for the ages.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 11, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

those who whined about Mac are whiners

please don't speculate what shannanhan LIKELY determined from the film, so you can vote to be horrible before we get better.

we know you don't like Portis already, but PORTIS is the 2nd leading rusher in Redskin history, and your a gossip columninst.

you put your OPINIONS about the players, so here is my opinion of your OPINIONS.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 11, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Dude had an arm. Sitting on his arse in the north end zone he could throw a football into a strong headwind way past the south end zone.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm

When the Raiders brought in JaMarcus, they showed him SITTING at midfield, throwing the ball ... into the end zone. Unreal how strong his arm is. What the Raiders didn't realize is that JaMarcus has extra arm muscles where his brain is supposed to be.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I would LOVED to see Ramsey with some protection. I always liked that guy.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 11, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

moe, actually yeah, trading cooley for a third would be stupid. as I've said numerous times, TE on this team is currently a position of strength...just leave it be, and work on the OL...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Is Cooley not considered a "core skin"

Would be ashame if he got dealt. but business is business

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 11, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"Elway vs Montana? Easy."

Okay, but what about "Shuler v. Ramsey"?

That's a match up for the ages.

Posted by: MistaMoe

This says it all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW9OJoVgUeg

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

It was closer to mediocre than good. But being a good QB is 50% head, 25% heart and 25% arm.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm

I dunno. Apparently head was what got Rothlesburger in trouble.

Posted by: TheCork | March 11, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Stop this cooley trade nonsense... i bought his jersey, he can't leave

Posted by: Dorf | March 11, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I think an appropriate punishmwnt for Roethlisberger would be that he has to have a sweaty pillowfight with that conressman Massa

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 11, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Arguing who is better between Montana and Elway is like arguing between one-million $1 bills or one-hundred-thousand $10 bills. It's a $1,000,000 any way you slice. They were both great, let's move on to more meaningful arguments.

I say we trade Cooley and the #4 overall to Indy for Bob Sanders ... discuss. :)

Posted by: C-DubDC | March 11, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if I'm not jumping at the thought of trading Cooley for a pick in the round in which we drafted Chad Rinehart....

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

chey, yuck....thanks for that mental image...ugh..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

It was closer to mediocre than good. But being a good QB is 50% head, 25% heart and 25% arm.

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm

I dunno. Apparently head was what got Rothlesburger in trouble.

Posted by: TheCork | March 11, 2010 2:10 PM

I was led to believe it was a different body part.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse


Is Cooley not considered a "core skin"

Would be ashame if he got dealt. but business is business

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 11, 2010 2:10 PM
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looks like the local affiliate stations, who have been trolling RI, are now scrambling to send their remote reporting units out to Cooley's house for comments on his impending Trade.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

A friend of mine bought a Jonathan Cheecho Sharks jersey. He got traded. So she went with a Jody Shelley jersey. He got shipped out last month.

Next jersey, she's putting my ex-wife's name on the back :)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Stop this cooley trade nonsense... i bought his jersey, he can't leave

Posted by: Dorf | March 11, 2010 2:12 PM

Unless you have already have Davis jersey, this is precisely the reason to trade him. As we speak, there are container trucks full of Cooley jerseys being loaded onto the rescue carrier, M/V zcezcest, prior to its next departure ... or, at least, so says pft.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I say we trade Cooley and the #4 overall to Indy for Bob Sanders ... discuss. :)

Posted by: C-DubDC

I hope this is a joke.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if I'm not jumping at the thought of trading Cooley for a pick in the round in which we drafted Chad Rinehart....

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 2:16 PM
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I wonder what round he would have gone in if Vinnie didn't grab him in the 3rd. I'd guess 5th round, at best.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 11, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, Ben's accuser is a student at Morehead State University. True story.

Ben "So, where do you go to school?"

Accuser "Morehead"

Ben "Yes please!"

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 11, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 11, 2010 2:27 PM |

A-hole.

Signed,

Phil Simms

Posted by: TheAnimalFarm | March 11, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if I'm not jumping at the thought of trading Cooley for a pick in the round in which we drafted Chad Rinehart....

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 2:16 PM
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I wonder what round he would have gone in if Vinnie didn't grab him in the 3rd. I'd guess 5th round, at best.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 11, 2010 2:26 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
We could of had him for a Large Pizza.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, Ben's accuser is a student at Morehead State University. True story.

Ben "So, where do you go to school?"

Accuser "Morehead"

Ben "Yes please!"

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 11, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was Brigham Young??

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 11, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if I'm not jumping at the thought of trading Cooley for a pick in the round in which we drafted Chad Rinehart....

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 2:16 PM
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I wonder what round he would have gone in if Vinnie didn't grab him in the 3rd. I'd guess 5th round, at best.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 11, 2010 2:26 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
We could of had him for a Large Pizza.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

Apparently. that's his new asking price

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

A team in need of a QB won't be looking this way anytime soon, but a team in need of a good blocking excellent route running pass catching TE? better than any coming out of the draft. What teams would be interested? Nah not possible. If there was interest, reason why we won't entertain offers is because you can never have to many of those guys on your team. we're going to set the league on fire with our 2 TE set offense.

Posted by: sthai75 | March 11, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Cooley will haul mad green trees wherever plains he will roam...How about them Hoyas?? Wright is awesome, slicin' and dicin'..Freeman's got type 2, just watch them sweets and alcohols, he'll be fine..DON'T trust just one doctor, seriously...I , personally , prefer the Budweiser with Clamato Chelada, from the "Hound Dawg Corner Store" ..."It's Not Just Beer, It's Breakfast!!", OI!!.."The Minor Threat That Quenches Everyman A King"...

http://www.the-rudy.com/images/minor-threat_bottled-vio_f.jpg

Posted by: frak | March 11, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Elway was a very good QB but NOT even close to being greatest of all-time. (See Joe Montana)

Shanny and Terrell Davis are the only reason Elway has rings (Period)

Posted by: filmchis | March 11, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse
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More proof that RI is not home to rational QB evaluation. Elway was great.

3 Superbowls in 4 years against Parcells, Gibbs, and Walsh? Pfft. Absolutely mediocre.

Back to back SuperBowl victories after his legs had retired? Humbug, that's not even worth an honorable mention.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 11, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse


http://boards.bengals.com/showthread.php?p=1495677

fiction from the Bengal's Board..


I still like the idea that we trade our 1st and 4th for Chris Cooley and Skins 2nd and 4th, essentially moving down 15 picks for Cooley. Some1 presented me with the trade value chart or somethin and said the #'s worked out that cooley would be valued at a mid-late third rd. pick in that scenario which might be a little cheap for him but if you consider all the circumstances (Cooley is i believe 27-28 now, he's coming off one of the toughest injury's to recover from and the skins have one of the best young TE's in the game) and if no1 else bites on cooley b4 that draft if i'm the skins GM i look long and hard at that one, and hell if we had to throw in an extra 6th this year or 5th next i'd still do it. Here's my mock if we pulled the deal off. (using mix of drafttek.com, nfldraftscout.com, and mayocks ratings mostly as reference)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Free agent ILB Larry Foote said Thursday that the Cardinals are his first choice for a new team.
Foote and OLB Joey Porter are both visiting Arizona on Thursday. Porter also appears to be leaning toward the Cardinals, saying they could make him skip other trips with the right offer.


http://twitter.com/kentsomers/status/10336309836

Posted by: onemikeclark | March 11, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

until PFT says so, then its just mere speculation...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

until [four minutes before] PFT says so, then its just mere speculation...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 2:53 PM


There. I fixed that for you. No need to thank me because I know you ignore these posts anyway.

Posted by: League-Source | March 11, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

More proof that RI is not home to rational QB evaluation. Elway was great.

3 Superbowls in 4 years against Parcells, Gibbs, and Walsh? Pfft. Absolutely mediocre.

Back to back SuperBowl victories after his legs had retired? Humbug, that's not even worth an honorable mention.

Posted by: mattsoundworld |

And the SB results were?

39-20, 42-10, 55-10, Elway with the 'L'

Montana was the 55 -- and he was flawless -- easily the best game played by a Super Bowl QB.

Of course Elway was great. But the greatest? No.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I say we trade Cooley and the #4 overall to Indy for Bob Sanders ... discuss. :)

Posted by: C-DubDC

I hope this is a joke.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 2:24 PM

I hope this is an option.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I misread that ... I was thinking Cooley for Sanders straight up.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I say we trade Cooley and the #4 overall to Indy for Bob Sanders ... discuss. :)

Posted by: C-DubDC

I hope this is a joke.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

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Yes, Rypien11, yes it was. I thought a Bob Sanders/Chuck Norris joke to go with it, but I thought that would take away from the sarcasm.

Posted by: C-DubDC | March 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I say we trade Cooley and the #4 overall to Indy for Bob Sanders ... discuss. :)

Posted by: C-DubDC


Sanders is a beast the 4 games a year that he's not on IR.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Check that again ... I was thinking Cooley for Antoine Bethea straight up.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Which brings me to today's (and yesterday's and the day's before that) question ... where is Ryan Lilja?

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

whose the best backup QB in the NFL, today?

(no Campbell bashing)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

More proof that RI is not home to rational QB evaluation. Elway was great.

3 Superbowls in 4 years against Parcells, Gibbs, and Walsh? Pfft. Absolutely mediocre.

Back to back SuperBowl victories after his legs had retired? Humbug, that's not even worth an honorable mention.

Posted by: mattsoundworld |

And the SB results were?

39-20, 42-10, 55-10, Elway with the 'L'

Montana was the 55 -- and he was flawless -- easily the best game played by a Super Bowl QB.

Of course Elway was great. But the greatest? No.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report
I always love this argument. BTW Montana is the greatest QB ever to play.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 11, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Chuck Norris has counted to infinity.. twice.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 11, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

whose the best backup QB in the NFL, today?

(no Campbell bashing)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 3:07 PM

kevin kolb

Posted by: sthai75 | March 11, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I misread that ... I was thinking Cooley for Sanders straight up.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I misread it too, I thought someone posted the idea of trading for Bob Sanders. I'm pretty sure I haven't dropped acid today.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 11, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Which brings me to today's (and yesterday's and the day's before that) question ... where is Ryan Lilja?

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

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Making a deep impression on a couch??? What do I win?

Posted by: C-DubDC | March 11, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I hope this is an option.

Posted by: dcsween | March 11, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse
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Sure, so Bob Sanders could be the invisible leader of our defense... hurt more than plays.

Posted by: tony325 | March 11, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

chuck norris does not sleep.. he waits.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups ... he bench presses the world.

Posted by: C-DubDC | March 11, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 11, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Think about Elway throwing to Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones, & Roger Craig instead of Vance Johnson, Ricky Nattiel, Mark Jacskson and Sammy Winder.

Also, Bill Walsh > Dan Reeves

Look what happend when Shanahan, Rod Smith, Terell Davis, Shanon Sharp and Ed McCaffery showed up.

You can't hold it against Elway that he didn't have any weapons until late in his career.

Elway vs Montana is a wash in my book.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 11, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

we have depth at one position, so hurry up and trade it away for a totally unknown quantity?

genius move with a vinny, danny mentality

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 11, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Mike Florio
March 11, 2010, 3:27
Ryan Lilja is about to join a growing list of players who will make a trip to the DC Area to pay the Redskins a visit. Since being released by the Colts, Lilja has generated little interest, despite being only 28 years old. Known more for his pass blocking skills than his run blocking skills, in this instance the Redskins, having the worst offensive line in the league, can't be choosy.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 11, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Every piece of furniture in Chuck Norris' home is a Total Gym.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 11, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

whose the best backup QB in the NFL, today?

(no Campbell bashing)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 11, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Depends on what you are looking for in a backup.

Backup looking to become a future starter- Kolb
Vet backup- Kitna (though the guy is a nut)

Posted by: alex35332 | March 11, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Here is my question for everyone on a slow day.

If you could build a Roster from all the NFL free agents right now, do you think you could build a team capable of beating the Raiders or Rams come week one of the Season?

Posted by: alex35332 | March 11, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

More proof that RI is not home to rational QB evaluation. Elway was great.

3 Superbowls in 4 years against Parcells, Gibbs, and Walsh? Pfft. Absolutely mediocre.

Back to back SuperBowl victories after his legs had retired? Humbug, that's not even worth an honorable mention.

Posted by: mattsoundworld |

And the SB results were?

39-20, 42-10, 55-10, Elway with the 'L'

Montana was the 55 -- and he was flawless -- easily the best game played by a Super Bowl QB.

Of course Elway was great. But the greatest? No.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report
I always love this argument. BTW Montana is the greatest QB ever to play.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 11, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

But what's going unmentioned here is that Denver's offense during those years under Dan Reeves, who was a competent but not great coach, was basically Elway and a bunch of guys named Joe. That they even got to the Super Bowl was a tribute to his greatness. Contrast that with Montana's 49ers, who had a Hall of Fame coach in Walsh, the greatest receiver ever in Rice, and other outstanding players like Roger Craig, Dwight Clark and John Taylor. Montana was a great QB, but both he and Elway belong in the conversation about who was the best ever.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 11, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I say we trade Cooley and the #4 overall to Indy for Bob Sanders ... discuss. :)

Posted by: C-DubDC


Sanders is a beast the 4 games a year that he's not on IR.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Bob Sanders either retire or get cut by the Colts? And, on a related subject, isn't he the illegitimate son of Col. Harlan Sanders? : )

The most interesting Cooley internet trade rumor that I've heard is Cooley and Devin Thomas to Denver for Brandon Marshall and a 3rd rounder. This rumor makes more sense than the nonsensical trades usually proposed by posters. Denver's pass-catching TE, Scheffler, is allegedly on the outs, Shanny is familiar with Marshall from his time there, and we don't have a third round pick. Marshall is a head case, but he's also a total stud. If I'm the 'Skins, I'm not looking to trade Cooley, but if this deal was offered, I'd probably do it.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 11, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Well... with three teams interested in Foote, I guess you could say it's a 'Foote' race!

Posted by: Sulphide1 | March 11, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

And the SB results were?

39-20, 42-10, 55-10, Elway with the 'L'

Montana was the 55 -- and he was flawless -- easily the best game played by a Super Bowl QB.

Of course Elway was great. But the greatest? No.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report
I always love this argument. BTW Montana is the greatest QB ever to play.

I think Peyton Manning will go down as the greatest ever... especially if he wins another Super Bowl (why that should matter is beyond me).

Posted by: dmr0834 | March 12, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

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