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Left tackle Clifton is scheduled to visit

Though it might have seemed like the Redskins were slow out of the gate as free agency began at midnight, they appear to have made significant progress to addressing one of their biggest roster holes.

Green Bay Packers left tackle Chad Clifton has a trip scheduled to Washington on Friday, according to a Yahoo Sports report and if the price is right, he could soon be filling the spot vacated by Chris Samuels's retirement Thursday.

In fact, Clifton's agent was at Redskins Park on Thursday. Jimmy Sexton also represents Samuels and attended his long-time client's retirement news conference. Clifton is an unrestricted free agent, but reportedly already has an offer of $5 million to return to Green Bay next season. According to the Yahoo Sports report, Clifton, a 10-year veteran, is seeking a deal that would pay him $7 million a year.

By Rick Maese  |  March 5, 2010; 2:02 AM ET
Categories:  Free agency  
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I must say that i'm glad WaPo has relaxed their sourcing requirement on the blog.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 5, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Peeps need to stop looking at the $ amount that players are signing for. Can Clifton fill a need for the next two - three years. Hel l yes. A huge need.

This rebuild will take a couple of years so we will need to stop gap players and many will not come cheap.

The important thing is that the Skins sign the right players.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

firrrrst

Posted by: redrider21 | March 5, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

A left tackle is certainly a start. I don't care much about J.Peppers being here. But a good LT who could fill Chris' shoes would be great. How about another quality/versatile O-lineman to replace R.Thomas and a cover corner? - M

Posted by: Blueslegend | March 5, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Predator48 | March 5, 2010 2:12 AM

Me, I am happy to see egg in the face of these media know-it-alls who think that the Skins are still the same because Dan still owns the team.

Change is possible.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Lito Sheppard anyone?

Posted by: mohammed10 | March 5, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

With Clifton being 33, I would hope they still draft a tackle at #4.

Posted by: will_ga | March 5, 2010 2:17 AM | Report abuse

I hope this Clifton courtship don't stop us from drafting Okung.

Posted by: dcwun | March 5, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Not sweating the dollars at ll... am considering what the implications re in bringing in Clifton.

I suppose it means Redskins can now still go Okung(install him at RT and then move him, or play Clifton on the right side if they get Okung) , go Bradford/Clausen, go McSuh, go Berry... and with all those options, can also trade back.

It means the Redskins won't get bent over a barrel and absolutely AHVE to get an OT early.

In concert with all the other moves and noises they have made, it certainly looks like its gonna be a move toward THE QB, whoever they think that is...

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 5, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

3 years and 12 million for RABACH?

Are you freakin kidding me?

That guy spent last season 4 yards deep in our backfield. I would have offered two years at vet minimum for back up duties or said goodbye...

Nobody would have paid anything near that for him.

Also, LOVE THIS SENTENCE:

"With Rabach signed and Stephon Heyer tendered, the team will return at least three starters from last year's line."

Uhh...we had the worst line in football last year, and the only TWO guys that were (emphasis on "were') any good just got released or retired.

More Tequila please!

Posted by: edvar

Jeez, you pretty much said what I was thinking, except for the tequila thing.

That's a lot of $$$ for a guy who isn't that good but is in his 30's.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 5, 2010 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Lito Sheppard anyone?

Posted by: mohammed10

No thanks. Not sure how much he has left.

Posted by: dcwun | March 5, 2010 2:20 AM | Report abuse

What about Antoine Bethea, FS from the colts?

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 2:20 AM | Report abuse

In concert with all the other moves and noises they have made, it certainly looks like its gonna be a move toward THE QB, whoever they think that is...

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

Please, no QB for goodness sakes. This is considered one of the worst QB drafts in the past few years.

Anyway, wish I was in Hawaii, not Kaneohe though.

Posted by: dcwun | March 5, 2010 2:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm looking for value. Clifton seems pricey and the Rabach deal was way pricey.

On the other hand, most of the cuts today made sense. ARE was good (much better as a WR than most people give him credit for), but his contract (someone posted the #'s earlier) were absurd. Good player at a great player price.

Smoot was also pricey and not nearly the player he once was. Griff is old and often injured. 2009 was his best season in about 3 years, but the arrow is pointing in the wrong direction at 33/34.

Rock was a value guy, would have thought he'd get the chance to compete for a roster spot. He was 5th on the team in yards from scrimmage last year, even in very part time roles.

Betts and Thomas were easy calls.

Not sure about Collins, me thinks that opens the door for Bradford as the #2 in 2010 if Campbell stays.

Still, most of these guys would have been gone this year or next. None were long term guys.

I've said this before, there is talent that left the Skins. Several of these players will contribute, perhaps significantly, to other teams. Don't underestimate how challenging it will be to fill these holes.

Still, except for the Rabach deal, I think this team made the appropriate moves.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 5, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/panthers-drop-kemoeatu/

Nose tackle anyone? I don't know much about this guy.

Posted by: will_ga | March 5, 2010 2:41 AM | Report abuse

No to Clifton. Wants too much money and has a couple of years left in him. Draft our cornerstone LT in this draft and shore up other needs via free agency (i.e. FS, DT).

What are our chances of seeing both Peppers and Dansby with the Skins in '10? I'd rather the Skins not sign Peppers.

With Collins gone and JC on the trading block, I firmly believe Colt will get a strong look this preseason and would not be surprised if ends up as the starter... just a huntch

Posted by: BacktoGlory | March 5, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Please, no QB for goodness sakes. This is considered one of the worst QB drafts in the past few years.

Anyway, wish I was in Hawaii, not Kaneohe though.

Posted by: dcwun | March 5, 2010 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Funny last year when Sanchez was a threat to be drafted suddenly 2009 was the worst QB draft in years and 2010 was going to be the strongest class to come along in a while.

Everytime we get close to drafting a QB people get scared. Heck same thing happened when we drafted Jason Campbell. "Oh don't draft a QB 2006 will be better, besides we just need to develop Ramsey."

It's the same dance every year. Say it with me. "I know we could possibly do better at QB but I really want a tackle and Okung is my favorite prospect for us in this years draft." Thats what most people that say this are really thinking.

I mean face it. How many Okung or bust fans skipped a beat when they found out that the paper thin Bradford weighed in at 236 pounds with most of the weight gain coming from muscle? All you have left is the soon to be cleared shoulder sprain.

I'm not saying that Clifton is a great pick that will solve all our tackle problems and I'm not opposed to drafting Okung. However doing this will give us the flexibility to draft a QB like Bradford should he fall (and believe me it is looking now like he could make it past the Rams) then draft a potential LT in the second with a crash course at RT. Then if the guy doesn't work out at LT we can keep whoever at Right and draft a tackle early next year.

The fact remains with Shanahan here the next time a "great QB class" comes along we'll likely have to trade up to get the guy we want, and usually that means a pick like a second or third rounder that guys like Bruce Allen like to use on the Line. If you all were truly dedicated to fixing the line as much as you claim then you would realize that we need to eventually find 6 or 7 guys. Not one LT.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | March 5, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Best reason not to draft a QB this year is the rookie salary cap in 2011 unless there is a lockout.

Okung makes sense this year as he is more of a sure bet then any QB taken this year and we don't sink so much money into a QB that may or may not make it in the NFL.

Draft OL with #4 (unless you can trade back for more picks) and worry about a QB when the price won't hurt the team long term if the QB is a fail.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 2:49 AM | Report abuse

With Collins gone and JC on the trading block, I firmly believe Colt will get a strong look this preseason and would not be surprised if ends up as the starter... just a huntch>


Iv'e actually had similar thoughts. Brennan reminds me a bit of Plummer... in a sprint out move the pocket kind of way. Brennan makes plays. We'll see.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 5, 2010 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Kbay's not bad.

If Shanallen thinks Bradford is the move... they get more than the benefit of the doubt from me.

What i like most about the Clifton move is that it gives them lots of options and they are not beholden to making a certain move.

They need to be right though if they grab Bradford... Okung will be a multiple year starter at 4... Bradford is riskier, with lots more potential reward as well.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 5, 2010 3:05 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a sure or safe bet, there is just as much risk taking a OT as there is taking a QB, WR, S, LB, DT, etc. We can all agree that every player drafted in the top 20 (at least) is getting paid way too much money considering they have not even stepped on the field yet, many players taken in the top 5 end up being close to (if not the top) paid guys at their position which is crazy. Having said that, if you take a QB and he ends up being a franchise QB a team can actually get an equal return on their money.

No other position has such a huge effect on the team as a whole, drafting a LT, DT or any other position other than QB is not going to improve your win total 3-4 games, a QB can. Campbell is not the answer, it's painfully obvious and anyone who thinks that is not the case just doesn't know much about football. Rothlisber and Rodgers both got sacked more and their TD to INT numbers (including their win totals) are far superior to Campbells, not to mention the fact that Collins came in against the Giants and moved the ball down the field in three plays (should have been a score on the third play if not for a drop by Davis), something that JC was unable to accomplish the whole first half.

Posted by: rj3743 | March 5, 2010 3:28 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a sure or safe bet, there is just as much risk taking a OT as there is taking a QB, WR, S, LB, DT, etc. We can all agree that every player drafted in the top 20 (at least) is getting paid way too much money considering they have not even stepped on the field yet, many players taken in the top 5 end up being close to (if not the top) paid guys at their position which is crazy. Having said that, if you take a QB and he ends up being a franchise QB a team can actually get an equal return on their money.

No other position has such a huge effect on the team as a whole, drafting a LT, DT or any other position other than QB is not going to improve your win total 3-4 games, a QB can. Campbell is not the answer, it's painfully obvious and anyone who thinks that is not the case just doesn't know much about football. Rothlisber and Rodgers both got sacked more and their TD to INT numbers (including their win totals) are far superior to Campbells, not to mention the fact that Collins came in against the Giants and moved the ball down the field in three plays (should have been a score on the third play if not for a drop by Davis), something that JC was unable to accomplish the whole first half.

Posted by: rj3743 | March 5, 2010 3:28 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a sure or safe bet, there is just as much risk taking a OT as there is taking a QB, WR, S, LB, DT, etc. We can all agree that every player drafted in the top 20 (at least) is getting paid way too much money considering they have not even stepped on the field yet, many players taken in the top 5 end up being close to (if not the top) paid guys at their position which is crazy. Having said that, if you take a QB and he ends up being a franchise QB a team can actually get an equal return on their money. No other position has such a huge effect on the team as a whole, drafting a LT, DT or any other position other than QB is not going to improve your win total 3-4 games, a QB can.

Posted by: rj3743 | March 5, 2010 3:29 AM | Report abuse

Anyone know how to delete duplicate posts? Unfortunately I thought there was something wrong with the Post website so I hit the back button prior to my comment going all the way through (at least I thought that was the case) and now I posted basically the same thing three times in a row. If anyone knows how to delete two of them I would appreciate the input, if not hopefully someone at the Post will take care of it. Sorry

Posted by: rj3743 | March 5, 2010 3:34 AM | Report abuse

actually, there is a much greater risk in taking a QB high than for most other positions.

With the number of holes the Skins need to address, its critical that the #4 pick not be a bust. And its important the OL gets fixed..

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 5, 2010 3:54 AM | Report abuse

I see the Collins release as another sign tht Shanahan is going after a QB. He knows who he wants.

My tea leaves?
1. Shanahan's body language in answering a media question the other day. Asked if Campbell would be around, Shanahan looked at the questioner with a "I know what you're really asking and I'm not foolish enough to tip my hand" look.

2. Consistent answers about Campbell that show no commitment to him

3. Releasing Collins. Collins is a near perfect backup QB. Yes he's a bit old, but he's low mileage and shown he can win games. He's pricey, but I doubt that was the issue. Shanahan isn't thinking his backup is going to be Colt since Colt has shown nothing except that he can get hurt in preseason. Shanahan is thinking Bradford (Clausen?) is the backup to Campbell, and that changes as soon as the rookie is ready.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 5, 2010 4:06 AM | Report abuse

If that logic's correct, then our record won't improve much next season, resulting in a high draft pick the year after, when there's a better QB draft class!

Clifton is 33 and played on a line as bad as ours at times last season, worth 7 million?

Either way, we need O-Line help in the worst way (I'm posting this for the umpteenth year in a row...)

Top tackles are almost always top draft picks. Skill position players can be had in later rounds; there's no Peyton Manning this year, maybe Shanahan sees a Tom Brady in the sixth?

Posted by: stevebeagrie | March 5, 2010 4:09 AM | Report abuse

I've said this many times; if Bradford really showed potential to be a great QB, I'd say take him and use hook or crook to get the line to protect him. But AGAIN I say, I've watched his highlite vids, and he is NEVER under pressure, he NEVER rifles or even finesses the ball into tight spaces, he has always been tagged with questionable arm strength, and his throwing shoulder was just SURGICALLY REPAIRED. Unless those extra 20 lbs at the weigh in are from a bionic shoulder, they do NOTHING to alleviate my concerns about a QB with a glass throwing shoulder and NO history of leading drives against a real pass rush. Can SOMEBODY please tell me what Bradford has shown other than a really good touch in lofting passes to pretty much wide open receivers while having no pass rushers anywhere in his zip code?

Posted by: kenboy1 | March 5, 2010 4:19 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 5, 2010 4:06 AM
heard shanny in an interview with gil brandt on nfl sirius and asked about campbell he sayed he loved how he handled the adversity of this past season, then said he was going to bring in a lot of competion into camp.

Posted by: hcic55 | March 5, 2010 4:50 AM | Report abuse

Collins is a near perfect backup QB.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 5, 2010 4:06 AM


With the exception of, you know, knowing this system...

People need to stop with the Collins stuff; he was a great backup for the Saunders offense because he knew it backward and forward. He had no such advantage under Zorn and wouldn't under Shanahan either. This cut should've been made last season...kudos for finally bidding him farewell.

I'm fine with bringing in Clifton, so long as the price is right. He was a Pro-Bowl level performer when healthy, so having him as a stop gap at LT for a year or two (or preferably playing him at RT when putting Okung in at LT) wouldn't be bad. I just don't wanna pay $5-7 million for the right to do so.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 5:21 AM | Report abuse

At 33 years old can Clifton play right tackle for a year or two...The smart thing to do is DRAFT OKUNG.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 5:37 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins need two tackles this off season, don't they? So, they go after the best one on the market and folks are complaining about the price -- in an uncapped year? Beats all. I'm just glad we've got an owner who's willing to pay that kind of money for the biggest need on the team.

Posted by: League-Source | March 5, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Parcels will snooker us again through Dansby. That's Ok, Rocky is happy with playing here in Washington.

And oh by the way....Draft OKUNG.

Just say NO to selecting a QB with our first pick.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 5:56 AM | Report abuse

Clifton is not the answer at left tackle.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 5:57 AM | Report abuse

LS, I'm not sure what you're not understanding about this situation with the uncapped year, but you don't saddle yourself with a huge salary just because 2010 is uncapped. We have no idea what's going to happen in 2011 and if there's a reinstallation of the cap, we don't know how much or what the salary structure will be at that time.

Either way, adding a 33 year-old LT with a history of injury for an average of $7 million per year would be crazy. It's about the equivolent of bring Randy Thomas back for the same price. I'd be willing to take the gamble at $3 or 4 million, but not $7.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 6:01 AM | Report abuse

your right League who should care how much money the team spends. Damndest(sp) thing I read lately. And yes I like going after a FA tackle, but I hope it doen't cloud the judgement/need for the selecting a tackle with our first pick.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 6:03 AM | Report abuse

If you sign Clifton up, then you have to pay him on par to other starting LT. You construct the payout to protect yourself in case he injured a significant amount of time. When Clifton came back to the Packers starting lineup, the Oline solidified. When healthy, Clifton is a very good LT. Go get him Bruce.

Posted by: TWISI | March 5, 2010 6:11 AM | Report abuse

We need to draft a LT for the future while we have the opportunity. Chad Clifton is 33 yrs. old and would only be a stop-gap at best. I hope Allen dosen't start this trend like his father, or the Redskins will be old-old in a hurry. The future may be now but not with old players. GB can sign him to his new deal, not here please!!

Posted by: MHEDRLT | March 5, 2010 6:20 AM | Report abuse

from the New York Times,
"Redskins Rev the Engines for Cap-Free Free Agency"

Ahhh, yes.

It's the reutn of the blog hog.

The acrid smell of heliocopter fumes wafting about Redskins Park beats the smell of napalm in the morning on most days for this guy.

Three annoying weeks of reading, "DRAFT OKUNG!!!!" made me want to fly a small plane into a government building.

(But that's been done already.)

So let's begin:

Chad Clifton's gonna be in town?

Sign him.

Karlos Dansby is free of the cardinal grip?

Sign him.

Thomas Jones and Lito Sheppherd are out there.

Sign him but not him.

So many choices and we ain't got no cap to cap them captain.

Get the 'copter up in the air, stat.

We got a weekend to win the Free Agency Super Bowl--just like we do every year.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 6:22 AM | Report abuse

When healthy, Clifton is a very good LT. Go get him Bruce.

Posted by: TWISI | March 5, 2010 6:11 AM

No! We can't do that! What if there's a salary cap???? Are you crazy??? We can't spend any money and pay guys what they're worth!!! This is too much of a risk! The salary cap might eat us up! We should only draft tackles! This guy missed four games last year -- exactly the same as Randy Thomas who was out 14 games!!! No way.

Posted by: League-Source | March 5, 2010 6:22 AM | Report abuse

No doubt Clifton would be a big pickup, one we really need. All I'm saying is don't blow out the curve to pay the man. Just like there were questions surrounding Peppers and paying a guy over 30 as an elite player, there's no need to do that with Clifton. It's really only the Packers and Redskins after the CC from what I've heard, so it's not like we have to outbid a dozen teams to get him.

Plus we've got the leverage for a change...this is a OT rich draft and his suitors will be few for that very reason. He can meet us at our price or take his chances with other teams less inclined to spend.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

"Clifton is not the answer at left tackle."

At left tackle, no.

At right tackle, yes.

(Heyer is and will always be a back up at both spots.)

And what's up with the Levi Jones situation?

Please inform.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

What's the buzz on Pashos?

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

What's the buzz on Pashos?

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 6:26 AM

Heading to Denver

Posted by: TWISI | March 5, 2010 6:35 AM | Report abuse

No! We can't do that! What if there's a salary cap???? Are you crazy??? We can't spend any money and pay guys what they're worth!!! This is too much of a risk! The salary cap might eat us up! We should only draft tackles! This guy missed four games last year -- exactly the same as Randy Thomas who was out 14 games!!! No way.

Posted by: League-Source | March 5, 2010 6:22 AM


Oh no LS, we should just continue to overspend and do so even MORE now that there's no cap! I mean, that's what screwed the Redskins up to begin with, right? It was that darn salary cap...couldn't have been that we set up a losing culture by worshipping the almighty free agent instead of drafting and cultivating our own stars. No way we're in full blown rebuilding mode because we overspent on past-their-prime performers who made a name for themselves in other uniforms and failed to live up to those standards in burgundy and gold. Yes, things should work the old way now simply because there's no cap FOR ONE YEAR and there's a new name atop the FO. I mean, why stop at Clifton? Let's get Antrel Rolle and give him the $12 million the Cards didn't wanna pay him for 2010...let's give Peppers a $200 million signing bonus for 2010! So long as we have the assets to pay him, we should be good, right?

Seriously dude...come join me in reality. I'll send you the address.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 6:25 AM

I understand what you're saying, don't overpay. I wonder what an average LT makes per year. Anyways, BA knows how to manage the cap when there is one, I'm sure he'll have a budgeted amount to spend in total and per position.

Posted by: TWISI | March 5, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse


(Heyer is and will always be a back up at both spots.)

And what's up with the Levi Jones situation?

Please inform.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Speaking of backups... Odd there's been nothing about him, tho.

Clifton wants $7 mill? Can't see that happening, But fact he's first FA skins have shown interest in probably means Shanahan has his heart set on a QB with the $4 pick.

Posted by: TheCork | March 5, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Clifton wants $7 mill? Can't see that happening, But fact he's first FA skins have shown interest in probably means Shanahan has his heart set on a QB with the $4 pick.

Posted by: TheCork | March 5, 2010 6:43 AM


That's what I'm afraid of...hopefully the Rams take that decision out of his hands.

And what a Freudian slip you made by saying "$4" pick...it's gonna be a lot of coin for Bradford if the Skins take him at #4.

But hey...who cares? It's an uncapped year, right?

(eye roll)

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 6:50 AM | Report abuse

Isn't free agency like the draft? You hope the FA returns to the stardom he once enjoyed weather it's from the college level or from another NFL team. Kind of like what LOS will feel if he's free. Maybe he can "catch" on with another team and be the star.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 6:53 AM | Report abuse

Hey it's almost SEVEN HOURS since FA season started, and STILL nobody inked? Dammit, as a Redskin fan I am used to winning the Super Bowl every off season. Has Bruce and Shanny turned Redskinb One into a Hangar Queen?

And yes I know offseason skin moves doesn't translate to wins in the regular season, but a man's got to dream. And I'm out here on a shoeshine and a smile with no OL and no promise of there being one. So far all the team has done is drop almost a dozen vets and sign an undersized aging bulled-around center to a three year deal deal.

Not to mention they don't have anything resembling a NT for their vaunted new 3-4, and Rogers' snit and Smoot's cut mean the team is facing the unpleasant prospect of J.T. Tryon starting at corner.

Shesh, Vinny coukld have done as well and fans would still have a first rate object for their hate and scorn.

Posted by: TheCork | March 5, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Signing 30 year old to multi million dollar deals. Sounds like the same ol Skins to me. Awesome.

Posted by: FedorEm | March 5, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Clifton would fill a big need at LT, but the price and the age is a big concern.

Posted by: joeboggs | March 5, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

Cork, I'll gladly trade offseason fun and games for sustained regular season success.

And what folks have to realize is our roster won't look good today. It's not supposed to. If we go into August with Tryon the projected starter, THEN panic. But we still have an entire FA period and the draft to come. Rome wasn't built overnight!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Just sign someone please I'm having withdrawels.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

If they sign Clifton, a starting-quality left tackle, they ARE NOT going to go left tackle at 4 overall in the draft. They have too many needs to solve the same problem twice, even if Clifton is only a temporary fix. Signing Clifton would suggest that they want to do something that a lot of people on here won't like: take a QB in the first round.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 5, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

drafting and cultivating our own stars...

Seriously dude...come join me in reality.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 6:37 AM

Reality? You are so afraid of reality.

This is reality: The Redskins lost 11 players yesterday. They have five picks in the draft this year. So "drafting and cultivating our own stars" ain't gonna put a team on the field this year.

But yeah, keep it real. Keep telling us how the number one need is OL, and then beat on the front office for bringing in the best tackle in free agency. Tell us how he's an injury risk because he missed four games in the last three years. Tell us about "overpaying" in an uncapped year.

Posted by: League-Source | March 5, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Sign Clifton and play him at LT this year. Draft Okung at #4 and play him at RT this year. They switch positions next year. Clifton should have 3 good seasons left in him. They only need a LG if this happens. MS knows that the OL has to be fixed. This will go a long way in getting it fixed. I don't think the Redskins take Bradford. At his pro day, if he is good, the Rams take him. If he is not good, then he falls like Leinhart did. I just hope the skins are not looking at Claussen.

Posted by: cspwoods3 | March 5, 2010 7:22 AM | Report abuse

clifton visiting is not good at all

signing him at left tackle opens the door for the skins going after a QB in the draft

clifton is a stopgap and is only going to be around for three years or so

this team needs to build for the future and draft okung, a LT you can pencil in for the next 10+ years...unless they have another top 5 to top 10 selection in the draft in the future, getting a stud LT is going to be hard to come by

Posted by: AhsanFamily | March 5, 2010 7:22 AM | Report abuse

Starke
May
Jacoby
Lachey
Samuals
Okung

Don’t forget to make the right choice, keep the tradition going.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Signing Clifton would suggest that they want to do something that a lot of people on here won't like: take a QB in the first round.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 5, 2010 7:16 AM |

First off I'm pretty sure they don't give a flying F about what the fans want them to do. If a front office took advise from fans, they wouldn't have there jobs very long.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Signing Clifton would suggest that they want to do something that a lot of people on here won't like: take a QB in the first round.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 5, 2010 7:16 A

Well, that's one "suggestion." How about some others? Maybe they're going to trade down? Maybe they think Okung won't be there at #4 and they'll get Suh? Maybe they're going to take Spiller?

So many suggestions, so little imagination.

Posted by: League-Source | March 5, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love how this is shaping up. Let all the d bag talking heads eat their phuking words. How's that idiot on ESPN with Wilbon that gauranteed Snyder would do "something stupid" last night? I love it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 5, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Don't know much about Clifton, but didn't Green Bay have one of the leakiest offensive lines in the NFL last year? sounds like a weird place to mine talent...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

This is reality: The Redskins lost 11 players yesterday. They have five picks in the draft this year. So "drafting and cultivating our own stars" ain't gonna put a team on the field this year.

But yeah, keep it real. Keep telling us how the number one need is OL, and then beat on the front office for bringing in the best tackle in free agency. Tell us how he's an injury risk because he missed four games in the last three years. Tell us about "overpaying" in an uncapped year.

Posted by: League-Source | March 5, 2010 7:19 AM


First of all, you need to come to the realization that we're rebuilding. Which means that EVERY hole isn't getting filled this offseason. If you think we're gonna get bonafide starters at all 22 starting positions, you're crazier than I thought you were. The point is building for 2010 AND BEYOND, which I believe Bruce Allen said yesterday. If that's truth and not lip service, then we're not going to load up the roster in one fell swoop.

And just for the record, being "the best tackle in free agency" in the watered-down 2010 class is like being the hottest chick at a Jenny Craig convention. Yes, Clifton would be an upgrade and he'd be a big part of the O-line for the next couple of years...all I'm saying is that overpaying for him (regardless of whether or not there's a cap) would be a mistake and a direct return to the old way of doing things. I'm not exactly sure of what part of "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN 2011" you don't get, so you can live in whatever world leads you to believe that we're going without a cap forever and ever, amen.

So unless Clifton is getting paid $7 million to play LT AND RT (and in case you haven't noticed, we need BOTH), then he's not worth that kind of scratch.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Tackles at camp should be Russell Okung, Levi Jones, Chad Clifton and Stephon Heyer.

Shanahan will then coach them all up and pick the best combination to start.

On a semi-related note; I had some fine rioja and lovely stilton after dinner last night - then had a nightmare that Mike Williams was our starting Nose Tackle in the 3-4. Yikes!

Posted by: stevebeagrie | March 5, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

At least we know Snyder isn't running the show any more. THANK GOD!!!!!!!

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 5, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

I find it funny that a lot of those posters who are saying, "I told you Bruce Allen wasn't going to go hog wild right at the beginning of free agency" were the ones who posted at 2:00 - 4:00 am. Since the RI usually doesn't get many posters at that time, is it possible they all had their eyes glued to the internet so early in the morning because they thought the Redskins were going to make a big move? Hmmmm.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Redskins, Lorenzo Alexander reach three-year deal
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 5, 2010 7:19 AM ET
Just hours after the Washington Redskins applied a right-of-first-refusal tender to linebacker Lorenzo Alexander, the team and the player agreed to a new contract.

Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com that Alexander has agreed to a three-year contract. Financial terms weren't disclosed.

Alexander played in all 16 games for the Redskins in 2009 and recorded two sacks. He initially played on the offensive line with the Redskins in 2007 and has played on the defensive line for the last two years but is expected to move to outside linebacker as the Redskins switch to a 3-4 defense in 2010.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why everybody is complaining on here. IMO this has been the start to Free Agency that I was hoping for. I was expecting to wake up this morning to a slew of headlines about the Skins signing Peppers or Dansby but they refrained and we are better for it. The team will be substantially better next year if we sign Clifton and draft OKUNG with our #4 pick then going with the status quo and surfing for the offseason's headline.

Here is a take from Gregg Rosenthal about Clifton whom he ranked number 8 of his top 50 FAs in 2010. "Clifton has some knocks against him (34-years-old, so-so run blocker), but he’s easily the best pass protector on the market." Obviously he is not in his 20s but all the quality Tackles that are, are restricted FAs. Give him his money and be thankful that it is only $7m per.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | March 5, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I was hoping for some Redskin interest and action with Dansby. Poshos, and Robinson.
Oh well there always next Christmas.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | March 5, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins reduced their cap dramatically yesterday. It wasn't the salaries that were killing the Redskins but the prorated signing bonuses that were the cap killer. I would like to know if we had the same cap number as last year how much the Redskins actually got rid of yesterday.

Posted by: cspwoods3 | March 5, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Since the RI usually doesn't get many posters at that time, is it possible they all had their eyes glued to the internet so early in the morning because they thought the Redskins were going to make a big move? Hmmmm.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:42 AM


That would be especially curious since RI is usually the last outlet to get breaking Redskins news...

Boom. Roasted.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

I, too, would like to know that Mr. Woods.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 5, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

1) Anyone surprised by the Redskins non-moves so far is a dolt. Of course they weren't going to go all-out Vinny Cerrato this year - Vinny Cerrato is not in the building! The rumor-mongering blowhards used a nice little news-conjuring trick by spending a couple days compiling a long list of pricey FAs that the Skins were supposedly going to pursue, and then acting like it's breaking news that the Skins aren't actually pursuing them.

2) I'm encouraged by the FO's pursuit of Chad Clifton. It shows us where their priorities lie.

3) If we sign Clifton to a short contract (2-3 years), we can still draft our LT of the future. Most sensible teams start the young tackle on the right and let him work his way over to the left. Drafting an LT and throwing him in as the starter on Day 1 is stupid.

4) Who cares if we pay Clifton a bunch of front-loaded $$ this year? There's no cap!! I think it makes perfect sense to get a good veteran LT in place this year, assuming that our plan is still to go out and find one in the draft to groom.

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Here is my guess as far as why the skins are going after clifton so that he can show the ropes to Okung as far as how to play the left tackle in the NFL level.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | March 5, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Since the RI usually doesn't get many posters at that time, is it possible they all had their eyes glued to the internet so early in the morning because they thought the Redskins were going to make a big move? Hmmmm.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:42 AM


That would be especially curious since RI is usually the last outlet to get breaking Redskins news...

Boom. Roasted.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 7:50 AM
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So you are saying the early morning posters were both ingenuine in their comments and idiots for coming to RI for breaking information? Gee, uninformed idiots - they should run for congress...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Don't know much about Clifton, but didn't Green Bay have one of the leakiest offensive lines in the NFL last year? sounds like a weird place to mine talent...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse


It was leaky early on b/c Clifton was injured at the start of the season. Once he returned into the starting lineup, the Pack mde their run to the playoffs.

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

"Clifton has some knocks against him (34-years-old, so-so run blocker), but he’s easily the best pass protector on the market." Obviously he is not in his 20s but all the quality Tackles that are, are restricted FAs. Give him his money and be thankful that it is only $7m per.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | March 5, 2010 7:45 AM


Wow, by that logic we should give Peppers what he wants because he's by far the best pass rusher on the market and we should be thankful that he "only" wants $18 million per.

The only way I'd give Clifton $7 million per year is if it's his signing bonus. It's not about whether a guy is worth it, it's about the Redskins getting out of the business of rewarding FAs for their great play in other cities.

A player's salary on the FA market is supposed to be the expectation of what he brings to the table going forward, not a reward for past achievements. Do you REALLY think Clifton is going to play at an elite level in 2010 and beyond?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Since the RI usually doesn't get many posters at that time, is it possible they all had their eyes glued to the internet so early in the morning because they thought the Redskins were going to make a big move? Hmmmm.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:42 AM


That would be especially curious since RI is usually the last outlet to get breaking Redskins news...

Boom. Roasted.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 7:50 AM
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So you are saying the early morning posters were both ingenuine in their comments and idiots for coming to RI for breaking information? Gee, uninformed idiots - they should run for congress...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:55 AM
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Wait a minute. Now that I think about it, maybe they were members of congress... staying up late churning out that health care reform and surfing the net to keep updated on the Redskins. Our tax dollars hard at work. It brings a tear to my eye...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Don't know much about Clifton, but didn't Green Bay have one of the leakiest offensive lines in the NFL last year? sounds like a weird place to mine talent...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

It was leaky early on b/c Clifton was injured at the start of the season. Once he returned into the starting lineup, the Pack mde their run to the playoffs.

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 7:58 AM
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Well, the team needs a left tackle and if he's even marginally good, then it's an upgrade. Might be the perfect guy to mentor some of the rookies the Redskins will undoubtedly have on the offensive line.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 5, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

"So unless Clifton is getting paid $7 million to play LT AND RT (and in case you haven't noticed, we need BOTH), then he's not worth that kind of scratch."

Especially at 30.

I don't think the Redskins are going there. They have the same agent, so that makes sense.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | March 5, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

"Wow, by that logic we should give Peppers what he wants because he's by far the best pass rusher on the market and we should be thankful that he "only" wants $18 million per."

No you missed the point of the entire post. I guess that is easy to do when you cherrypick a part of the post and lack basic reading comprehension skills. If the Skins needed to improve on D and didn't already have quality DEs then maybe you sign Peppers but neither is the case so you don't. The Skins desperately need 2-3 starting OL and should be willing to shell out money for a veteran like Clifton to hold the fort down till Okung (or whoever they draft) can make the transition.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | March 5, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Allen says they have an extensive & fluid free agency plan. The next few days will be interesting. I'm psyched!

Posted by: shanks1 | March 5, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

FANTASTIC!!! Just what the doctor ordered.. Also clears up the Redskins to make a move on QB in the draft... Have to say I was one of those who thought Colt should get a shot... But I'm more and more I thought about it the more I think the Skins should make a move to get Clausen. Who knows where the Skins draft next year.. If Clausen can be that franchise QB (which a lot of people say he can be) we have to pull the tigger and get him...

Posted by: sovine08 | March 5, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins reduced their cap dramatically yesterday. It wasn't the salaries that were killing the Redskins but the prorated signing bonuses that were the cap killer. I would like to know if we had the same cap number as last year how much the Redskins actually got rid of yesterday.

cspwoods3, you think they where managing the CAP yesterday with no CAP in 2010? I thought they were getting rid of dead wood and looking to spend $$ in FA and work the draft and the re-building is up and running now, just what I expected Allen and Shanahan to do....

I would expect more released after the FA and draft ends and then maybe some trade talks happening too. Just what the doctor ordered for this team! Hail Yes!

Posted by: TKing1 | March 5, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

cspwoods3, I would for you to give me and everyone else on this board specific reasons as to why the Redskins should take Okung and why the Redskins should not take Clausen because that's what is going to happen. The Rams will take Bradford at #1 and the Skins will take Clausen at #4, I can give you a ton of reasons why this is the correct pick but I figured I would let one of those people who is trashing Clausen/Bradford and gushing about Okung explain to everyone just exactly why we should not take a QB instead of an OL. For the record, I am not convinced about Bradford's ability (think there are too many questions) but if you explanation involves excuses for Campbell you stop where you are because that is where my conversation will end with you..it would be clear at that point that you have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about.

Posted by: rj3743 | March 5, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

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