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Parker's agent: 'It's flat out an open competition' at RB

Apparently, Clinton Portis really will have to fight to keep his job.

That seemed clear Friday after the Redskins signed running back Willie Parker, adding another Pro Bowl runner to a backfield that already included Portis and the recently signed Larry Johnson. Parker signed an incentive-laded one-year contract worth as much as $3.1 million, league sources said.

Portis is guaranteed $6.4 million this season, but Coach Mike Shanahan has made it clear every job on the roster is open. So with the addition of Johnson and Parker, the battle in the backfield is on.

"It's flat out an open competition," said Parker's agent, Doug Hendrickson. "That's what they told Willlie. It's a flat-out open competition as to who's going to play and who's going to start. They said that's the way it's going to be."

By Jason Reid  |  April 2, 2010; 3:52 PM ET
Categories:  Free agency , Jason Reid  
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League-Source likes open competition, as long as he doesn't have to compete for anything, of course. Should make for an interesting camp!

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

No sh*t, agent man.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 2, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Great. Now they have 3 old running backs.

Posted by: jgluke | April 2, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Great. Now they have 3 old running backs.

Posted by: jgluke | April 2, 2010 4:07 PM

gluke, you can't see the forest for the trees. They cut Betts and Cartwright. They've gotten younger!

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Football has such a short schedule that I think Shanahan's philosophy is: If you can get a vet cheap and they make 1 or 2 plays that help you win 1 or 2 games, it's worth it.

So with only 16 games, LJ and/or WP may make 1 or 2 plays that help us win 1 or 2 games that we wouldn't have won otherwise.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 2, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: abxinc | April 2, 2010 4:07 PM

That's some funny math. Rock doesn't count. He was a return man whose position was RB. Betts was CP's back up. He's been replaced by LJ/WP or maybe CP. Ganther and Mason were late season additions because CP was hurt. CP's back so CG/MM "services" are no longer needed.

That's 3 for 3. CP/LJ/WP for LB/CG/MM.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 2, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Its like George Allen's over the hill gang. Except instead of Diron Talbert and Ron McDole and Deacon Jones and Jack Pardee -- its those guys.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else spot a trend? Posted by: zcezcest1
---------------------------------------------
yes getting veterans on offense and keeping youth (speed) on defense. So the offensive vets can help the young QB their going to draft.

Posted by: hammer4 | April 2, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Its like George Allen's over the hill gang. Except instead of Diron Talbert and Ron McDole and Deacon Jones and Jack Pardee -- its those guys.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The Bruce apple sure didn't fall far from the George tree.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

That's 3 for 3. CP/LJ/WP for LB/CG/MM.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 2, 2010 4:15 PM

Sounds like a significant upgrade to me, with only CP guaranteed a major paycheck.

Posted by: HokieSkin | April 2, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

ESPN: "Skins now have three of the top 10 running backs since 2000."

That's way better than having three of the bottom ten (Mason, Ganther, Cartwright), but the only way you get into the top ten is by making a lot of runs over several years.

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Is this off season behavior reminiscent of the BA facilitated/aided SB runs in TB and OAK, or is it not?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The recent activity tells me...ownership is no longer making decisions. Praise the Lord!!!

Posted by: Fansince1962 | April 2, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

The recent activity tells me...ownership is no longer making decisions. Praise the Lord!!!

Posted by: Fansince1962 | April 2, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Observant observers have known this for months.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Its like George Allen's over the hill gang. Except instead of Diron Talbert and Ron McDole and Deacon Jones and Jack Pardee -- its those guys.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:17 PM

******************

Um, didn't those guys make the Super Bowl?

Posted by: outsider6 | April 2, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Is this off season behavior reminiscent of the BA facilitated/aided SB runs in TB and OAK, or is it not?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse


Please do not mention superbowl runs until at least 2012. This year's miracle will be more like a .500 run.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 2, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Great. Now they have 3 old running backs.

Posted by: jgluke | April 2, 2010 4:07 PM |

____________________________________

All except Larry are under 30... I think it's great, except none play teams... You can't get mad at the Redskins forcing competition on a 4-12 team, which will make everyone better...

I would bet that Shanny actually believes that Portis is the most talented of the 3 backs at this point & he wants him to prove it. I heard on radio the other day that Artis Hicks said that Portis is there everyday working with his teammates & he only saw LJ once.

Think about it... Portis has a chance to become the Redskins all-time leading rusher which may not take him to Hall of Fame but definitely is an accomplishment. I don't think he wants to lose that opportunity & have to go elsewhere... cause we can still can drop him like it's hot & save a bunch of $$ in future seasons.

All I think we have ever wanted 26 to do was STFU, PRACTICE, & be a good teammate.

Posted by: tony325 | April 2, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Neil Rackers is available. Do we want him?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Well i didn't see this one coming.

I think we can put to rest the Spiller commetns now huh?

Posted by: skinball77 | April 2, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

One of the three won't be on the roster at the start of the year.

Two will get the majority of the carries; the third will get zilch. And they won't like it.

Who's the odd man out?

Guessing: Portis will be traded.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I think the change in rules for UFA's (6 yrs experience) means that mostly 30 yr old's are eligible. I expect some younger players will be signed when roster cuts begin.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 2, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Hall had 9 passes defensed with 4 picks, Rogers had 12 with ZERO picks.

I think the notion that Rogers is better than Hall in coverage is greatly exaggerated.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 2, 2010 12:30 PM |

I will take Hall in that comparison, plus Hall is not a whiny b_tch.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 2, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse


This is like arguing who is the tallest of Snow White's Dwarfs.

Rogers can't catch a cold or cover anyone who, I dunno, "fakes." Hall gets his Interceptions by standing ten yards deep off the receiver and catching bad passes or deflections with hands that are good at catching footballs, but not tackling runners.

Posted by: TheCork | April 2, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Ernest Byner and Terry Allen fared pretty well for the skins and they were 30 when signed! All three good talent just need pushed, good move Shanny..

Posted by: GClouse58 | April 2, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Is this off season behavior reminiscent of the BA facilitated/aided SB runs in TB and OAK, or is it not?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse


Please do not mention superbowl runs until at least 2012. This year's miracle will be more like a .500 run.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 2, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

etrod, one year does not a sb run make. I'll be quite pleased with a 2010 Redskins team that functions as a true NFL team and wins the winnable games while not shooting themselves in the foot with azz hattish behavior on the field and from under the headset. 5-11 would be disappointing, 10-6 would be Fricking Awesome and quite likely too much to hope for at this juncture.

All i'm implying is that the early stages of those runs looked like this first off season here. Concur?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Last week, we made note of a story that described the way massive "poop bubbles" had formed on the threads of a popular sports blog of the Washington Post, Redskins Insider:

Posters were uncertain how to proceed to prevent said bubbles from bringing terror and destruction to the blog, because of concerns that they might explode. Yet resident RI blogger, and dedicated grudge holder, League Source, upon whose backside the bubbles flourish, was reasonably convinced that the bubbles were simply "poop for the course."

Well, the news today is that the matter of the poop bubbles remains unresolved.

So, what happens to League Source's poop bubbles?

Do they eventually dry up like a raisin in the sun? Or fester like a sore -- and then run? Do they stink like rotten meat? Or crust and sugar over -- like a syrupy sweet? Maybe his poop bubbles just sag like a heavy load?

Or do they explode?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 2, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Regarding signing Hotel Adams, late of the Cowboys. NEVER sign ex-Cowboys. Period.

Posted by: TheCork | April 2, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse


Yes.

Veterna guys signed to one year deals or signed to modest contracts with little or no signing bonuses that makes them easy to cut as soon as good young sensible replacements are discovered via draft or free agency.

But for real, it's time to start finding some folks to trade away.

Can we ship out Carlos Rogers already and get a pick or 2??

Posted by: p1funk | April 2, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I like these signings. It's an upgrade over Betts, Cartwright, Ganther and Mason.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 2, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Skins going to the single wing.

Heard it here first.

And probably last.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Parker, Johnson and Portis huh?

They still have to make the final roster.

Posted by: edvar | April 2, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Its like George Allen's over the hill gang. Except instead of Diron Talbert and Ron McDole and Deacon Jones and Jack Pardee -- its those guys.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:17 PM

******************

Um, didn't those guys make the Super Bowl?

Posted by: outsider6

Just to clarify, those guys are these:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Last week, we made note of a story that described the way massive "poop bubbles" had formed on the threads of a popular sports blog of the Washington Post, Redskins Insider:

Posters were uncertain how to proceed to prevent said bubbles from bringing terror and destruction to the blog, because of concerns that they might explode. Yet resident RI blogger, and dedicated grudge holder, League Source, upon whose backside the bubbles flourish, was reasonably convinced that the bubbles were simply "poop for the course."

Well, the news today is that the matter of the poop bubbles remains unresolved.

So, what happens to League Source's poop bubbles?

Do they eventually dry up like a raisin in the sun? Or fester like a sore -- and then run? Do they stink like rotten meat? Or crust and sugar over -- like a syrupy sweet? Maybe his poop bubbles just sag like a heavy load?

Or do they explode?

Posted by: Chia_Pet


We are all dumber for having read this

Posted by: skinball77 | April 2, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Guessing: Portis will be traded.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

At 6.4 mil guaranteed for next season, coming off a concussion that forced him to miss half the season? Uhhh, I don't think so.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 2, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

In alot of Larry Johnson's comments recently about the RB situation he's been saying that he and CP will "complement" each other.

Such a view assumes that both of them were going to be on the starting day active roster.

Now it's all about getting through training camp with a job intact.

I like it. It's a simple and effective way to knock loudmouth prima-donna running backs off of their perches...

Posted by: p1funk | April 2, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Regarding signing Hotel Adams, late of the Cowboys. NEVER sign ex-Cowboys. Period.

Posted by: TheCork | April 2, 2010 4:41 PM

That's what I was thinking. Have we ever had success signing an ex-Cowboy?

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

All i'm implying is that the early stages of those runs looked like this first off season here. Concur?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I'll go with that. I just throw up in my mouth a little when I hear the "S" word used when this team is clearly in rebuilding mode. I'd like to see how that goes before I start thinking about the big one. Baby steps, man, baby steps.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 2, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Just need that, uh, Oline, and they'll be lookin like young bucks.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 2, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Guessing: Portis will be traded.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse


The only organization stupid enough to trade for Portis would be the Washington Redskins of 2000-2009.

Since that organization has been dragged into an alley, beat to death with a shovel and dropped off of a bridge into a river, there is no one dumb enough to trade for Clinton Portis...

...except maybe the Chicago Bears who are poised and ready to be this decade's version of the 2000-2009 Skins.

Posted by: p1funk | April 2, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Just to clarify, those guys are these:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Posted by: zcezcest1

Can we please leave punters out of these arguments? i mean really he punts the ball, THATS IT. The others i will give you, they are 30-ish but for God's sake leave the punter out of these arguments.

Posted by: skinball77 | April 2, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

At 6.4 mil guaranteed for next season, coming off a concussion that forced him to miss half the season? Uhhh, I don't think so.

He loses out to Johnson and/or Parker and he won't be quiet.

And $6.4 million for a third string RB who whines?

Traded, cut - gone.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

These guys are not costing us much...so I don't care.

Vinny would have given PArker 12 million over 4 years with a 8 million dollar signing bonus.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 2, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

wow didn't see this signing coming. I knew earlier we had looked at Willie but I thought he wasn't going to sign. I think he'll be a great change of pace guy. i mean, he's really speedy right? wonder how they'll get their playing time between the three..

Posted by: rachel216 | April 2, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Larry Johnson will get cut before the season begins. He'll be here to take some licks against the defense in training camp.

We'll pick up a fast rookie FA or a late-round rb and then aim for a real rb threat out of next year's draft like Mark Ingram. ('Bama runs a zone-blocking scheme.)

Posted by: lordtwang | April 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Wishbone backfield anyone?

Posted by: skinball77 | April 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Baby steps, aye. I like the way the kid is fearlessly letting go of the furniture and boldy venturing across the living room.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I can see them signing Flozell & Rackers and both would be nice signings. I also see them making a move for Bradford. If you truly think he is a franchise QB why pass him up because the line is bad? Would you pass on Peyton or Favre because your lie is bad draft them and then fix the line next year. Franchise QBs don''t come along every day. Lineman are easy to find.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM

Obviously the Skins are only going for old guys....
OR COULD IT BE that since the uncapped year means longer tenures are required to be an unrestricted free agent, there are no UFAs under 27.

Posted by: SportzWiz | April 2, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

98 for 389 0 6 for 64 and 1 2Fum
124 for 494 1td, 9 for 57 and 1td 1Fum
178 for 562 0, 15 for 80, 2F

Who wouldn't like an RB that had 400 carries, 1445 yards and 1 TD? That's 3.6 yds/carry. And 1 TD in 400 carries.

On the receiving end, 30 receptions for 201 yards and 2 TDs. For a total of 3 TDs.

And only 5 fumbles.

Cuz that was Portis + Johnson + Parker in 2009.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Just to clarify, those guys are these:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Posted by: zcezcest1

Can we please leave punters out of these arguments? i mean really he punts the ball, THATS IT. The others i will give you, they are 30-ish but for God's sake leave the punter out of these arguments.

Posted by: skinball77

Just being thorough ... 34 isn't old for a punter and 30 isn't old for a QB or a blocking TE. Not young, but not old, either. Of course, 30 is old for a CB, RB, etc.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Skins going to the single wing.
Heard it here first.
And probably last.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 4:42 PM

I thought they were bringing back the wishbone.

Posted by: SportzWiz | April 2, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm taking this move at face value. Taking BA and Shanahan's comments at face value all off seasnon has been proven as the correct interpretation.

Its a three headed monster RBBC. No more, no less.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Franchise QBs don''t come along every day. Lineman are easy to find.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 2, 2010 4:54 PM


Vinny is that you?

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 2, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

First of all, the incentive laden contracts for LJ and Parker make them bargains. And second...

What's most interesting about this competition is that one of these three at least) is NOT going to make this team. Because whoever is 3rd best of them does NOT do what Rock did as Special Teams Captain.

They will still draft a young back, and they still need people who play Teams. Someone like A.Alridge - if they can teach him how to hold onto the ball - will likely make the team.

But for CP, LJ, and Parker, it's going to be a matter of who wants it more. Motivation Advantage maybe going to the two guys without the guaranteed money.

Posted by: bigfoot1 | April 2, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Beeeeeeeep

Posted by: abxinc | April 2, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Its a three headed monster RBBC. No more, no less.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't think that all three of them will be on the roster come opening day.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 2, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Is this off season behavior reminiscent of the BA facilitated/aided SB runs in TB and OAK, or is it not?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:21 PM

I didn't realize that Bruce Allen was actually the GM for both teams the SAME year. What a skilled multi-tasker.

Posted by: SportzWiz | April 2, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

As someone who was disappointed when the Skins signed over-the-hill-RB Larry Johnson rather than over-the-hill-RB Willie Parker, I am pleased with this move.

These non-guaranteed deals mean that you can hope for the best at a very low risk and at Parker has a very different running style from Portis, so they could compliment eachother. Now, draft a hungry youngster to push them even more.

Posted by: SportzWiz | April 2, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Right on Cork! Just say NO to any ex-cowpatties!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 2, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Allen #2 is following in his father's footsteps when it comes to relying on veterans.

Posted by: sonofliberty09 | April 2, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the Skins know more about CPs concussions and conditioning than being reported. Is it possible that they don't think we can play any longer?

Regardless,

I think we have a better backfield than we did last season and I have absolutely no problem with competition in training camp. The more the merrier. And truth be told, I wouldn't mind them getting rid of CP in a cost effective manner. He is a team cancer. Even when he was at the top of game as a Skin, I didn't care for his attitude. But crappy and the me first attitudes is so prevalent in today's sports. Is this a race thing or sports thing?

Posted by: neil64 | April 2, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Looks like WaPo deleted the second instance of this post... ah well...here's what I was going to post over there:

Given a finite number of roster spots available, L-S, I'm not going to apologize for being the opposite of enthused that we now have three guys close to 30 years of age who apparently will be competing for the starting RB spot.

Whatevs... it's a Friday afternoon in April and the sun has appeared in Portland, OR... happy weekend, everybody.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 2, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't get how Parker is a better option than Jamal Lewis. Hell, I'd take Lewis over LJ or Portis too...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 2, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 2, 2010 6:07 PM

Im sorry if I dont think everything the FO does is going to lead us to a super bowl. Sometimes people need to be saved from themselves. I think Shanahan is a great coach, but its been proven coaches arent as good when they are GM as well and that is the case here. Allen is more of a cap guy than a complete GM. And just because they didnt sign Peppers or Dansby doesnt mean things have changed around here just yet. All they have done so far is cut some older guys and sign some more old guys. Things seemed great when Gibbs 2.0 and Zorn first started as well. I will hold my applause until later. Supporting the cause doesnt mean you have to lose your opinion.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 2, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I said when MS was first signed and the blog was discussing CP that MS let his lazy azz go before, he'll do it again if need be. I wish all would remember, MS's offense makes many RB's look good. Let him do his thing.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 2, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Its a good deal. We have nothing to lose. LJ grew up a Skins fan and he may be motivated by playing for them. He was disgruntled in KC and may have not given his best effort....like....hmmmm...Portis last year??

Posted by: westjr88 | April 2, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Willie Parker, Phillip Buchanon, Larry Johnson, Clinton Portis, DeAngelo Hall... Man, if I was playing 2005 Madden I would be psyched!

Please, coach, listen. Trade #4 pick for two later first rounders from the 49ers and a third rounder from them as well. Take those picks and get yourself TWO stud tackles. Draft Tony Pike as your future QB in the second round. Get yourself a guard in the third round. Pursue Shawn Andrews who is a great guard now.

Is anyone on board with that or is it just me???

Posted by: moon9778 | April 2, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else worried that there won't be NFL football in 2011?

I never hear any discussion about this despite the fact that DeMaurice Smith said the chances of a lockout(on a scale of 1-10) is 14.

On the bright side, at least the Mayans haven't predicted the end of NFL.

Posted by: Vicc | April 2, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

As far as not going after Peppers and Dansby.....Why??? You have a top rated defense now that just needs minor tweaking.
Don't break the bank on the defense this year when there is so much need on offense.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 2, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone on board with that or is it just me???

Posted by: moon9778 | April 2, 2010 6:28 PM

Pass on Tony Pike (if you'll pardon the pun...) The guy is a toothpick.

Posted by: edvar | April 2, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

tackles. Draft Tony Pike as your future QB in the second round. Get yourself a guard in the third round. Pursue Shawn Andrews who is a great guard now.

Is anyone on board with that or is it just me???

Posted by: moon9778 | April 2, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Everything except the part about Pike. I would rather have one of the other guys.
I really think that Bradford, Clausen and McCoy are all blown out of proportion.
I believe if Snead, Lefevour, Pike or Skelton had played for Oklahoma,Notre Dame or Texas....they would be receiving the hype too.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 2, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Vicc, I'm worried about it, but I think that in general folks are is preoccupied with what's happening now -- making sense of the "uncapped year" and its impact on free agency thus far, and the rest of the offseason -- and not as concerned about something that may or may not happen more than a year from now.

You have to discount the NFLPA guy's statement at least a little bit because his motivation is to raise an alarm for the ultimate benefit of his organization...

With that said, F work stoppages in pro sports. Play ball!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 2, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM

--------------------------
I love this trend...

None of these guys have guaranteed money, only incentives

They are all upgrades on what we had last year, for the most part

They may all be gone next year. This free agent class is a joke. Next year is the prize. Those who sign their offers this year,become unrestricted free agents next year.

this is smart business.

they are methodically gutting this team and getting ready for next year

Cap or no Cap

go skins!

Posted by: byrdinthesky | April 2, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Cap or no Cap

go skins!

Posted by: byrdinthesky | April 2, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Amen

Posted by: westjr88 | April 2, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Given a finite number of roster spots available, L-S, I'm not going to apologize for being the opposite of enthused that we now have three guys close to 30 years of age who apparently will be competing for the starting RB spot.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 2, 2010 6:19 PM

Hey, they're 30 years old. I'd rather have three of them competing than just two of them. I think you're just grumpy. Why don't you take the weekend off? It's Easter. Hide some candies for your kids, including a few where only you can find them.

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Nate, I guess it is a bit premature to speculate. The fact that it is not major news to sport outlets is reassuring.

I'd feel better if I knew discussions were on going though. A new CBA won't be reached over night. I think DeMaurice Smith has more to lose than the owners do if there is a lockout. Ultimately every one will lose.

Posted by: Vicc | April 2, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, screw it, hail to 'em... Dan Snyder being out of the Redskin news is the best thing that could've happened this offseason, followed very, very closely by Vinny Cerrato being out of Redskin Park (as far as we know). Everything else is gravy.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 2, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

If they're going to sign guys with little tread left, sign a damned offensive lineman.

Doesn't it appear that they're just grasping at things? I don't see an overall plan.

Yeah, it's a long term project; if they go 8-8 next year it'll be a success. But if you say you have a real solution, we all want to see the plan.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

i don't care about any of these signings, all i care about is what we do with #4... PLEASE DO NOT DRAFT A QB.

Posted by: BMACattack | April 2, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

CP plus LJ plus Willie Parker...Wow! That is going to be one homoerotic locker room. I am not sure NateinthePDX knows we can cut LJ and Willie with no problem and pickup someone younger without penalty before the end of preseason.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I doubt it'll make much difference to CP26. He'll take his guaranteed money... and let the others carry the load. 2009 redux?

Posted by: Vic1 | April 2, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: shyde13 | April 2, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Yes, monkeymayonaise, I'm well aware that in this of all offseasons it will be easier than ever to cut any player because of the lack of a salary cap. But thanks all the same for sharing your knowledge.

Pardon me for being less than impressed that as of today, April 2, our RB depth chart is topped by the 2010 versions of Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker.

Whatevs... if we don't fix the O line it doesn't matter who carries the ball.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 2, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

CP plus LJ plus Willie Parker...Wow! That is going to be one homoerotic locker room. I am not sure NateinthePDX knows we can cut LJ and Willie with no problem and pickup someone younger without penalty before the end of preseason.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse


Its like test driving a bunch of cars before you decide which one you want to buy. You can drive them all you want with no obligation.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 2, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if the absence of a NFLPA contract renewal will definitely lead to no pro football in in 2011? In the '80's, we brought in ringers, is it possible we will have scrubs in uniform?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

If they're going to sign guys with little tread left, sign a damned offensive lineman.

Doesn't it appear that they're just grasping at things? I don't see an overall plan.

Yeah, it's a long term project; if they go 8-8 next year it'll be a success. But if you say you have a real solution, we all want to see the plan.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 2, 2010 6:56 PM |

Good teams don't show there plans they make teams guess as to what they are doing.

What o-linemen would you suggest since you seem so knowledgable, this UFA class sucks and is old so let me know the O-Linemen ou would have signed so far.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 2, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if the absence of a NFLPA contract renewal will definitely lead to no pro football in in 2011? In the '80's, we brought in ringers, is it possible we will have scrubs in uniform?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Somebody call Ed Ruppert.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 2, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if the absence of a NFLPA contract renewal will definitely lead to no pro football in in 2011? In the '80's, we brought in ringers, is it possible we will have scrubs in uniform?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse


Yes there will be a lockout if a new CBA is not reached.

No Owners can not use scabs if they lockout the players, scabs can only be used if the players strike.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 2, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah, I see a trend... they're replacing old, expensive guys with years left on bad contracts with old, cheap guys with short-term, incentive based contracts.

Are people really that bitter and jaded that they can't recognize a smart move?

Posted by: WazzuBrian1 | April 2, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Yes there will be a lockout if a new CBA is not reached.

No Owners can not use scabs if they lockout the players, scabs can only be used if the players strike.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 2, 2010 7:21 PM

shame, ain't it? Ed Ruppert throwing to Billy "White-shoes" Johnson was fun to watch.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 2, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Apparently, Clinton Portis really will have to fight to keep his job."

Good!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 2, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1

Yes...you keep posting the same list of players and their ages.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Any one know enough about Portis' contract to answer this:
Could LJ and Once-Fast Willie be the depth at RB needed to rid the Skins of Portis' contract and eat the entire sum in this non-capped year. It seems that at 29 Portis is unlikely to see the end of his contract in a Skins uniform. I know it's a lot of money to eat, especially all at once. It just seems that Portis' production indicates that the Skins will be eating this money no matter once. Either right now, all at once, or gradually over the next several years.
Like a band-aid, right off! That's what I think.

Posted by: furious50 | April 2, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse
__________________________________________

Yeah, I see a trend... they're replacing old, expensive guys with years left on bad contracts with old, cheap guys with short-term, incentive based contracts.

Are people really that bitter and jaded that they can't recognize a smart move?
Posted by: WazzuBrian1 | April 2, 2010 7:24 PM |
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Due to the NFL contract situation, I believe the youngest of ALL free agents this year was 28 and there was just one that young. I think there were around five or six 29 year olds. The rest of this year's UFA class was 30 and above.

Posted by: midniterc | April 2, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan stated that he likes competition. My opinion is that between Portis, Johnson and Parker, only two will make the roster. Three bodies for two slots will definitely heat up the competition. I think the third will go to Alridge, who will be the home run speedster.

Posted by: midniterc | April 2, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

back in the day, you pulled for individual players on the Skins, now with all the Fgency, you simply pull for the team. Couldn't care less if CP is bagging groceries next year or greeting gamblers in Vegas. His behavior may get him a pink slip. Love it, Love it, Love it! No more playas with bad attitudes please.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 2, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse


Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM
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Who do you think is out there in free agency - 23 year old up and coming superstars? The roster cannot be built enitrely from drafted and undrafted rookie free agents. I like the collection of running backs. It gives them some options and the competition is going to cause each of them to raise their game.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 2, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Love the move! The contracts for these over 30 ex-All Pro's are not burdensome, they are all short-term and incentive laden. I'm reminded of George Allen's Over the Hill Gang, but with a twist.

Has anyone noticed what the team hasn't done? I don't see a bunch of old, over-priced, free-agent offensive linemen. This move gives me hope that there's a plan in place to build a foundation by drafting a bunch of big and talented offensive linemen. Who do we have on the o-line that can block for all these ex-All Pro running backs and a franchise QB? Since the team hasn't adequately addressed the o-line through free agency, the move seems like yet another clear indicator that the team is planning on rebuilding the o-line through the draft. In a draft loaded with quality o-linemen, that would be a good thing!

With the uncapped year and all the talk that all running backs are washed up at 30, it makes sense that management might seize the opportunity to procure a bunch of quality running backs at a great value! How do these contracts affect the salary cap long-term? Where's the downside?

Another theme I notice is that Shanahan and Allen have made it clear that the team will have a culture of competition. Management has already done a great deal to eradicate what's left of a culture of complacency.

Sorry, I liked Rock and Betts, but neither of them were on the same level as Larry Johnson or Willie Parker. With Larry Johnson, there may be character issues, but Dexter Manley had character issues too. The personalities on this team may not be particularly likeable, sorry JC, this huddle probably won't be fun, but the team will have an edge. It's going to get nasty real soon!

The ex-factor will be Haynesworth. Will Haynesworth buy in or will he remain complacent? What's going to happen if Haynesworth gets to camp out of shape? This team never lacks for drama.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | April 2, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

My first reaction...ok second reaction was "cool". Shanahan can have running by committee. Given that he really gets a couple good tackles to shore up the line, we can have some really neat packages on the field.

I've already discussed in previous posts the cool possibility of having 2 TE sets with Davis and Cooley, both having good catching potential with Moss and Thomas/Kelly adding speed in the receiving spectrum.

Now we can have split backfields with a Portis/Johnson duo waiting for the ball, or a Portis/Parker or Johnson/Parker duo to have a running version of play-action - will they run with the bruiser or the quicker option? All three can catch effectively out of the backfield. If we have the line to give Campbell a few moments, then we may have the ball flying all over the field this year, similarly to Houston's recent succcess under Kyle.
I think this just adds another chess move for the Shanahans to play with.

Now my concern came from an earlier post that said Hicks has only seen LJ in the workout room once. What the hell is that about? How motivated is LJ and why haven't we heard more about this in RI more? That's poor. If that's the case, maybe it's true that LJ will take the majority of the abuse in pre-season prior to being cut.

I'm really glad to hear Portis is in there every day. It's about time we hear he's applying himself AND staying out of the media spotlight.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 2, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Is it ParkPortiJohn now? Is it PortiJohnPark? What?

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 2, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM

And what are the ages of the guys the cut? I think they've gotten younger, faster, cheaper, and with shorter term contracts. All to the good.

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Sidenotes:
- No on Adams, the pentalty maker. We want to move forward on the field.
- No on Gaither. There's a reason he's trade bait. My gut says, "no".
- Yes on either Hamlin or Sharper. Let's take a look at them to see if we can have a stop gap, at worst, for our highly needed FS spot. Not sold on our existing young guys.
- No on drafting a QB this year. Clausen MAY be a good one, but I just think we have stronger needs on the line and to begin ramping up the MLB prospect field because, as much as I don't want it, Fletcher won't be able to play for TOO many years more. Let's get someone that can train under him ASAP. Also, next year's draft will supply some quality QBs IF we wind up needing one. I'd rather get one through next years FA than through the draft.
- Yes on OT for 1st and 2nd round picks (think Samuels and Jansen, but just in one draft)
- Yes, Hall has proven better than Rogers with both interceptions AND number of tackles.
- No on getting rid of any of our veterans through whatever means (trading away or dismissing). We've got some talent that our new coaching staff should be able to take advantage of.
---If Carlos Rogers can suck up his bad experiences of the past and realize he has a golden opportunity under a new staff, I see no reason for him to do well enough.
---Andre Carter is a stick of dynamite that we've got to hold onto.
---Jarmon barely got started, but looked really promising.
---MacIntosh (still not sure what anyone has against him... he's really solid) can really help in the mid-field and can learn some role diversity working more closely with Fletcher.
---Cooley... give me a break. He's highly effective. Stupid to get rid of him.
---Portis may have had attitude issues, but he's an effective blocker both behind and in front of the line of scrimmage, PLUS has a lot of money already dedicated to him. I think with the new insurgence of RBs and coming back from injury, he will be extra motivated.
---Haynesworth. The jury is out as to whether he will be a major difference maker, but he is a significant play maker on defense for us either way... no way do we get rid of him.
---Campbell may be the biggest question mark since's he's statistically ok on many fronts, but just can't seem to score when it matters and doesn't show the excitement that would be nice to see from a team leader. I'm hoping Kyle will help him react more quickly with his reads this year. Maybe Jason is a slow maturer and this will be the year it all clicks, new system and all.
---None of our existing receivers. Each brings something unique. Thomas and Kelley both should be on their game this year. The switch-ups that Moss will be put in this year will give him a record year this year and Marko Mitchell really should be a rising star on the team. He's shown good jumping ability, good hands, and good use of the side-lines...reminds me of Art Monk.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 2, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else concerned Willie Parker must really be damaged goods if he would come here w/ CP and LJ already in DC?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 2, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Fellow fans - I honestly think we are a LOT closer to being a really good team than most people think because of being so jaded over the last decade.

Why?

We aren't hearing about Snyder wining and dining potential players.
Vinny is history (finally).
We have a super bowl winning coach, an up and coming highly successful offensive brainiac, and a defensive coach that puts oppressive defenses on the field.
We have a much more sensible approach to FA(so far).

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 2, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

This signing does not mean that BA/MS will not be drafting a RB this year, or signing an Undrafted FA. This signing is about competition at the RB position. Not sure why that is so hard to understand. One, maybe two of the "big" name RBs will not make the final roster.

This FO is doing their due deligence at all positions and not signing anyone to contracts that prevents the Skins from cutting them after this season. Stop gap signings while they rebuild this team.

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University of Tennessee running back Montario Hardesty, a rising draft prospect, has upcoming visits with the Tennessee Titans, New York Jets, San Diego Chargers, Washington Redskins and the Denver Broncos, according to a source close to the program with knowledge of the situation.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Montario-Hardesty-to-visit-Titans-Jets-Chargers-Redskins-and-Broncos.html

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 2, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

SInce Dallas released Adams, how would yall feel about picking him up as a stop gap right tackle? Draft Okung and we may atleast have a serviceable line.

Posted by: slim8109 | April 2, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmmm. Women's college gymnastics.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

In unrelated news:

Why won't League Source get off my nutz sack?

You'd think I did something to offend the resident know it all / jag off?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 2, 2010 3:45 PM |

Heh, heh. The dud is probably somewhere off in corner right now jerking off to the popular jerk-off tune "Will the Circle Jerk Be Unbroken".

Posted by: ElDrano | April 2, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else concerned Willie Parker must really be damaged goods if he would come here w/ CP and LJ already in DC?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 2, 2010 9:13 PM |

three turds = a dump

Posted by: ElDrano | April 2, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1

Yes...you keep posting the same list of players and their ages.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:46 PM |

zcezcest1 = automoton

Posted by: ElDrano | April 2, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Correction - automaton

Posted by: ElDrano | April 2, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget about Clinton Portis' pass protection ability.

Good news about Hardesty, Curzon.

He's my second fav back in the draft, behind Spiller.

Posted by: Vicc | April 2, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

SInce Dallas released Adams, how would yall feel about picking him up as a stop gap right tackle? Draft Okung and we may atleast have a serviceable line.

Posted by: slim8109 | April 2, 2010 9:25 PM

No one up here wants Adams. He's lost it. We'd rather have Levi Jones.

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I think Flosil Adams has led the league in false start penalties pretty much every year.

Pass on that bum.

Posted by: Vicc | April 2, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan's doing a fine job. The image that you create resonates- regardless of the Roman Empire (just a vehicle), the Catholic pantheon of Saints has deep psychic relevance( voudou is the nigerian pantheon of deities , which they found completely correspond with the Catholic saints, how they transferred it over from Africa) ..But the "image" or creation, flows through the river of time and test, so competition is the forge, Satan the foundryman...I'm not sure what I'm saying, but the image has deep psychic power, which gives Catholicism some relevance...That is all..

Posted by: frak | April 2, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

No one up here wants Adams. He's lost it. We'd rather have Levi Jones.

Posted by: League-Source | April 2, 2010 9:48 PM

Yeah Flo, it's the defense that's supposed to anticipate the snap count.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 2, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

You and me both frak...

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 2, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Portis better get his act into gear.

This is yet another "reminder".

Posted by: PCinOz | April 2, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 2, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

yeah, true that. but can't help pulling for a resurgence on his part given his skins past.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 2, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

O.K. witch is it , ParkPortiJohn or PortiJohnPark?

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 2, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Seems like we are trying to replace all of our old guys with different old guys but these new old guys have 1 year dirt cheap incentive laden contracts. Any of these old guys could be gone if we draft a stud prospect or if someone young shows a little sumptin in camp. We are not holding any young guys back by being forced to start older players due to their huge contracts. This is smart football. May the best players play.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | April 2, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

It's all been re-branded back to Raljon.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 2, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

It's all been re-branded back to Raljon.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 2, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

It's not a double move it's a combination.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 2, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Willie Parker was the second undrafted running back to rush for over 1,200 in the history of the NFL (2005.)

Who was the first?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 2, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

It's all been re-branded back to Raljon.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 2, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

It's not a double move it's a combination.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 2, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Tony Kornheiser famously said "Lucky for us, Cooke didn't name his kids Peter and Ennis."

That's funny as hell, word up to the cowgirls fan.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 2, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

The Legend of Willie Parker

By Joe Bendel, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, August 31, 2005

On the side streets of Clinton, N.C., folks used to line up to watch Willie Parker race pit bulls.

"You should have seen it," Willie Parker Sr., said "I don't know where the idea came from, but they'd have a guy on the far end calling for the dog when the race started. You'd see those two at full gallop, running to the finish line. Willie didn't win, but it was amazing to see so much speed."

This is just another chapter in the legend of "Fast" Willie, a man who's been clocked at 4.23 seconds in the 40-yard dash, a man who hasn't lost a foot race (to a human being) since he finally beat a neighborhood kid nicknamed "Rabbit" his freshman year of college, a man who'd sprint by his father's car so he'd get home before the old man.

And a man who figures to start at tailback for the Steelers in the regular-season opener Sept. 11 against Tennessee.

"There's one word to describe him: 'Speed,' " cornerback Ike Taylor said.

Wide receiver Antwaan Randle El offered another.

"Mo-o-o-ving," Randle El said. "Man, can he move."

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This was 2005 hamsters.

How fast can Fast Willie still be?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 2, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse


Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

A new OVER-THE-HILL GANG?

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 2, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Wishbone backfield anyone?

Posted by: skinball77 | April 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse


Whatever happened to the "Pro Set" when you've got 2 legit running backs lined up, one on either side of the QB?

Was that ever actually used in the NFL or does it only exist in video games?

Posted by: p1funk | April 2, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Was that ever actually used in the NFL or does it only exist in video games?

Posted by: p1funk | April 2, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Or does it exist only as the "wheel"?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 2, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't get how Parker is a better option than Jamal Lewis. Hell, I'd take Lewis over LJ or Portis too...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 2, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse


Pretty sure Jamal Lewis retired, so it's sort of a moot point.

Posted by: p1funk | April 2, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Yep, I think we're at least 3 years too late to jump on Willie.

2007 he posts (8) 100 yard games and 2 TD's for a total of 1,316.

2008 he goes for 100 yards 4 times, 5 TDs and 716.

2009 he goes for 389 yards and 4 TD's.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 2, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I am a straight African-American, brown-skinned,married with children man...

-BUT-

I love "Queen"...

Freddie Mercury was INCREDIBLE!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 2, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I am a straight African-American, brown-skinned,married with children man...

-BUT-

I love "Queen"...

Freddie Mercury was INCREDIBLE!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 2, 2010 11:07 PM

Queen rocked the world, man. nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 2, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1

Yes...you keep posting the same list of players and their ages.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 2, 2010 7:46 PM |

zcezcest1 = automoton

Posted by: ElDrano | April 2, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Correction - automaton

Posted by: ElDrano

I think I only posted it once, but its doing great in reruns.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

And what are the ages of the guys the cut? I think they've gotten younger, faster, cheaper, and with shorter term contracts. All to the good.

Posted by: League-Source


Don't think we've gotten younger or faster. Everyone on the list is 30 or over this year. No one on that list is 'fast' at this point. We really don't know the contracts -- everyone is assuming the contracts are incentive loaded. Johnson and Parker combined for 1 TD last year. Ganther had 3.

We haven't done anything major, we're more or less treading water at this point.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Since free agency began on March 1, these are the guys the Skins have signed and their ages, as of Dec 1, 2010:

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM

Zeke- You should be better than this. Most Cornell grads would pick up on the fact that we didn't pass on the 23-27 year old UFAs for the 30-34 year old variety. This is the worst FA pool since the inception of FA. I agree with everyone of these signings…they are all incentive laden and our FO is doing the best they can with the roster they inherited.

I demand an apology for having to read your post 17x even though I add the eighteenth.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 2, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

My bad

2009 (389 yards) (4.0 avg) (0 TDs)

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 2, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin' world go round

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 2, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

and one of the most misquoted lyrics of all time

She keeps Moet et Chandon in her pretty cabinet

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 2, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Willie Parker:

Assets:

Decent breakaway speed. Still has fine burst through the hole. Will wait for blocks to set up on the perimeter. Good hands.

Flaws:
Runs into some blocks. Doesn't always see cutback lanes. Is too easy to stuff at the line if the hole isn't there. Can wear down on occasions. Below average field vision, relies on speed, which has waned considerably from his early years of 4.26 in the 40.

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I dunno how many holes the O Line of the Redskins will open up for Willie, or anyone else in 2010.

with or without Okung.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 2, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

I doesn't care younger v older. What we's getts is a bunch of has beens instead of a bunch of never wases. Hey, man, if any of them gets hot for a streak, then we got that. And if one of them gets hurt, then we got the others. So, while two sits, one runs. While one runs, two sits. You gettin what I means? And if two is on the field at once, the other sits. Just use your fingers, man, and you can keep up with me.

May I have a job as a reporter now, please?

Posted by: MrChili | April 2, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

stop dreaming about Okung gone at #2 to DET

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 2, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Redskins will trade for #1 pick and take Bradford, send our #1 this year, #2 next year, JC17 and Big Al.

I can be just like D44...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 2, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

latest mock draft analysis

#1 - Bradford 56%, Clausen 23%, Suh 21%
#2 - Suh 48%, Okung 30%, G.McCoy 20%, Berry 1%
#3 - G.McCoy 48%, Suh 28%, Berry 17%, Okung 3%, Clausen 1%, Morgan 1%
#4 - Clausen 34%, Okung 30%, Bradford 22%, G.McCoy 3%, Bulaga 3%, Berry 2%
#5 - Berry 30%, Okung 26%, Bulaga 18%, Davis 6%, McClain 5%, Campbell 5%, Williams 3%

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 3, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I can be just like D44...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 2, 2010 11:56 PM

Not quite..

You will probably always be noonefromtampa and with what you try to pass as being informative or humorous...I don't like your odds of being someonefromtampa.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 3, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

and Marko Mitchell really should be a rising star on the team. He's shown good jumping ability, good hands, and good use of the side-lines...reminds me of Art Monk.
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If only he blocked like Art Monk. Had a couple of good plays but whiffed badly on others

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 3, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM
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yep...Cheap..
Or aka "An Owner in Six Flags Bankruptcy Court".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 3, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I was someone once, prefer being noone now

life less complicated

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 3, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

I am a straight African-American, brown-skinned,married with children man...

-BUT-

I love "Queen"...

Freddie Mercury was INCREDIBLE!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 2, 2010 11:07 PM |
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me too..(ages 5-7-10) But, I can only listen to him once (and that was a decade ago) after that I cringe. His songs just dont stand the test of time.....

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 3, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Goodnight Noone-

Haynie and JC17 for the Rams 1st and 2nd...make it happen.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 3, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Did you see the awful display the Marines put on when President Obama landed at the White House

7 Marines fired 3 shots each, 21 in total

Every dang shot missed him.

The Marines are sure going downhill fast.

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Most people think that this is a bad joke about Obama, it's actually a good joke about Marines...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 3, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

30 RB Willie Parker
30 CB Phillip Buchanon
34 P Josh Bidwell
30 QB Rex Grossman
31 RB Larry Johnson
30 TE Sean Ryan
31 DT Maake Kemoeatu
32 G Artis Hicks

Anyone else spot a trend?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 2, 2010 4:12 PM
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yep...Cheap..
Or aka "An Owner in Six Flags Bankruptcy Court".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 3, 2010 12:21 AM
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Or Cheap...like an Owner who is about to pay HUGE signing dollars to move up and draft his new mancrush, at Number 1, Sam Bradford.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 3, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

The Bruce apple sure didn't fall far from the George tree.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 2, 2010 4:20 PM

Best post of the day!

Posted by: RedCherokee | April 3, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

To answer League Source's question about success in signing ex-Cowboys. George "Holding #74" Starke was a Cowboy his rookie year before the Skins picked up him in, I think, 1971.

So, I would say yes, there is a precedent.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 3, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 3, 2010 12:39 AM

i'll see your george starke and raise you james washington, alvin harper and shaun suisham. yeesh.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 3, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

To answer League Source's question about success in signing ex-Cowboys. George "Holding #74" Starke was a Cowboy his rookie year before the Skins picked up him in, I think, 1971.

So, I would say yes, there is a precedent.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 3, 2010 12:39 AM |

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 3, 2010 12:39 AM

i'll see your george starke and raise you james washington, alvin harper and shaun suisham. yeesh.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 3, 2010 12:45 AM |

+++

Fold.

Posted by: edvar | April 3, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

I said "success". Not just signing any ex-Cowpoke. Which has usually been a waste.

Starke played solidly for 14 years for the Skins, so I would say that was a "success". In spite of all of the those holding penalties.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 3, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Fold.

Posted by: edvar | April 3, 2010 12:56 AM

Thanks for the laugh. I got a good chuckle out of that.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 3, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

I said "success". Not just signing any ex-Cowpoke. Which has usually been a waste.

Starke played solidly for 14 years for the Skins, so I would say that was a "success". In spite of all of the those holding penalties.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 3, 2010 1:11 AM |

undoubtedly. the overall "bust rate" for ex-cowboy signings is, however, abysmal

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 3, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

not tryin to lecture you, just trying (and failing) to piggyback on your comment.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 3, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

You guys are DUMB! Can't you see why they signed this guy? Now they can pick his brain to know what the Steeler's plays are when we play them in the pre-season. What?..you say we don't play them this pre-season? ...never mind. - M

Posted by: Blueslegend | April 3, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

On the side streets of Clinton, N.C., folks used to line up to watch Willie Parker race pit bulls.

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There is a certain symmetry to Willie Parker growing up in Clinton.

Posted by: Xlnt | April 3, 2010 1:33 AM | Report abuse

I demand an apology for having to read your post 17x even though I add the eighteenth.

Posted by: Diesel44

I'm livin' large.

fwiw, here is a link to a list of free agents and RFAs. Lots of guys under 30 in the list.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 3, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

hey noonfromtampa, save that little joke for traitor AWOL boy George Bush Jr.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 3, 2010 5:41 AM | Report abuse

hey noonfromtampa, save that little joke for traitor AWOL boy George Bush Jr.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 3, 2010 5:41 AM | Report abuse

A front-office executive for another AFC team had a different take: “He can throw the ball downfield. He’s the perfect Raiders quarterback, what Al [Davis] has been dreaming about for years. I don’t want to like him, but I do. I mean, just look at him – when you see that guy, you just want to punch him.”

This was in a Yahoo story about Clausen.

Posted by: westjr88 | April 3, 2010 6:34 AM | Report abuse

I got no problem with this.
Portis & Johnson + Parker -- every portajohn needs a willie!
Between the three of these retreads the Skins will manage a year or two of decent production while rebuilding the team -- then they'll go younger. No sense in going all in with a young back now while the team around him is crap.

Posted by: minorthread | April 3, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

The trend everybody should look at is all these "older" guys the Skins are signing are on one year contracts for the most part. Smart. Have a competition to get playing time and put the best guy on the field. Fill in your draft choices and add more next year,,,assuming there is a next year.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | April 3, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

This article is the first couple of paragraphs in the article above it co-written by Maske. That is called taking up space instead of finding new information.
The hottest right-handed QB in the world will look sorry if he has a lousy LEFT TACKLE!
Sam has already had 2 surgeries on his throwing shoulder..come on..
Draft a QB with potential..get JC a decent O line..and see what happens.
THIS TEAM COULD REPLACE ALL OF THE CORNERS AND AT LEAST ONE SAFETY WITH ROOKIES AND IT WOULD BE AN UPGRADE.
Do not blow extra draft choices trying to trade up for Bradford. There will be a pro-bowl player at the #4e pick.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | April 3, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I like the signing so far plus if we happen to trade down I believe we still pick a RB in the first 4 rounds

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 3, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

So who do you think would trade down with the Skins? From the latest mock drafts Bradford goes to the Rams and Okung to Detroit. That means Clausen, Suh/McCoy, or Berry would be available at #4. Is there any team picking after the Skins that is really interested in a DT or a Safety where there is rumer that they might trade up?

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | April 4, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

not tryin to lecture you, just trying (and failing) to piggyback on your comment.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 3, 2010 1:20 AM

Not at all. :)

I got a kick out of that. We could put together a deck of card filled with ex-Cowpokes who were epic fails for the Skins.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | April 4, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

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