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Phillip Daniels, Redskins agree to terms on a new deal

Updated at 12:23 p.m.

Defensive lineman Phillip Daniels has agreed to terms to return for his 15th season and sixth with the Redskins.

"I had a good birthday," said Daniels, who turned 37 on Thursday. "They gave me a gift and I gave them a gift to come back to them, so it was good all the way around for everybody."

General Manager Bruce Allen called to wish Daniels a happy birthday, "and that meant a lot to me that Bruce would do that. It's a good situation."

Daniels received a $250,000 signing bonus and will have a salary of $912,000 in 2010 and $1 million in 2011. "It's a good deal," Daniels said. "They showed me that they want me back."

Daniels suffered a season-ending torn anterior cruciate ligament on the first day of training camp in 2008. Last season, Daniels was named the winner of the Redskins' Ed Block Courage Award, presented to a player from each team who displays courage amid adversity. The award, named for longtime Baltimore Colts trainer Ed Block, was first presented in 1978.

Daniels played in every game last season, including starting 15, despite being slowed for much of the season because of a torn right biceps. He was credited with 35 tackles, including 24 unassisted, and one sack. Daniels received a $50,000 signing bonus and had an $845,000 base salary during the 2009 season.

With the Redskins shifting to a 3-4 base defense next season, Daniels will be used as a defensive end. Daniels also played defensive tackle in the Redskins' 4-3 front. "I'll just have to adjust to what they put out there," he said. "We'll just see how this whole thing works.

"Free agency just started, so we have to see how this plays out. I know they're going to look at some more people. But I'll be ready for whatever they want me to do."

The Redskins now have re-signed their two biggest unrestricted free agents, Casey Rabach and Daniels. Hunter Smith and Ethan Albright, however, remain unsigned UFAs.

By Jason Reid  |  March 5, 2010; 11:36 AM ET
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Comments

Welcome back Phillip!

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Phillip, what color is the wind???

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 5, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

we knew this.

Posted by: rickmort | March 5, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

What the hey, let's take care of Albright and Hunter the punter, too.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 5, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

gotta get hunter the punter back

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Let's get punter settled...

Posted by: edvar | March 5, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I stand by my post.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 11:41 AM

That's what she said.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV,
I got to believe this parade of left tackles was orchestrated. They apparently didn't like Levi Jones as a left tackle and now are kicking the tires on a few other guys. No one said that Clifton was a lock. I understand the concerns about his age, but he comes from a similar offense. Pashos is only 29, which isn't too old in offensive lineman years and he may be a better option, but heck, take them both and let them compete in the preseason. I would feel much more comfortable going into the draft if the Redskins had someone at every position who could potentially start. Then, the BPA strategy becomes viable. You're not desperate to fill holes and can focus on a player that will make your team better.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 11:47 AM

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Agree 100%. Maybe Berry comes into play now if he's there. Still not crazy about another top 5 pick on a safety but he sounds like the real deal.

Posted by: skinswest | March 5, 2010 11:35 AM


Dude, stop it...if the Skins take another safety in the top 10, I'm going to Redskins Park with pitchforks, torches, and machine guns. Worst case scenario, you take one of the DTs or--better yet--trade down. You DO NOT take a damn safety!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey brownwood...

We need EVERYTHING! While I understand the hesitation with picking a QB, we need everything...

1)Suh could sure up our line for years to come

2) Berry would give us an elite starting FS and giev us depth with Horton and Doughty.

The only idiotic pick would be a WR.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Good signing. Daniels will be a good DE in the 3-4.

Posted by: michaelfcompton | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Championship....BOOK IT!

(All joshing aside, I love Phillip Daniels)

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

can we stop the stupid posts about ...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 11:18 AM

I agree with McMetal's post about kicking off another blogyear with a kinder, gentler tone, but your particular request is not something that could be accommodated up here. Stupid posting is sort of a liberty interest up here.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV, and everyone else bashing me at this point...

Do you read my posts? Do you have any idea what I am saying? Clearly not. And again my name proves right... LOOK IM NOT SAYING CLIFTON or PASHOS is an answer long term. I am saying that we CANNOT go into the season with what we have, and that expecting us to find starters, for LT, RG and RT is ridiculous. Bringing in VERTERNS who can do it for NOW... is the only way were going to SURVIVE the year. Clifton is by no means going to save the franchise, or make us a winning team in 2010. But it will enable us to move the ball occasionally and not get embarassed week in and week out. I mean come on be intelligent and read my entire post. I know were going to suck.. I said its going to take 2 years... wow I said that in that post dumda$$ brown... wow you really are a waste of space. I rememeber you from back when i posted before... never an intelligent post.

Look, CLifton is better than any IN HOUSE option we have and while I completely agree we have to DRAFT OLINEMAN like its our Job.... at least 1 a year, preferably 2... but we cannot NOT sign some this year. Come on now please be somewhat intelligent and stop wasting my time Red and Brown...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Let's see, we have Daniels and Haynesworth: that's two of the three pillars needed for the 3-4. As I said earlier, I could visualize Alexander filling this role but they seem to be interested in making him an outside linebacker. I guess the next best option is to pull one of the tackles into an end spot. Golston? Rob Jackson? It sounds like they are looking at free agent DE Babin but I think he would end up being a linebacker, too.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

"2) Berry would give us an elite starting FS and giev us depth with Horton and Doughty."

Dude, that's how we got here in the first place.

Again...

You NEVER take a safety with a top 10 pick....EVER!

NEVER, EVER!

Once again...NEVER!

Safeties and fullbacks are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Good Lord.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

BANISH THAT SORRY Azz PORTIS!! WE WILL NEVER WIN WITH HIM AS STARTER, NEVER!!

Posted by: iubiquity | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

REDDMV,
you have to be in the running for dumbest POS in the history of this blog.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

good move, gives us depth at the DE spot with Jarmon coming off a knee injury...

some people crack me up, mcmetal is whining in the previous post about how he did the report abuse function, and how we need to be aware of others age, race, etc....seriously, whine much? could you play the role of the victim any better....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

People think by signing and drafting these linemen = Championship contenders. They'll be the same ones all crying and hurt come mid-November (or sooner), when it's obvious they're not making the playoffs.

They're supposed to be in re-build mode, which is why signing 30 plus year olds doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse


I'm not thinking "championship" mode at all.

I'm thinking "rebuilding mode", but you need some veterans to help through the process.

Last year we saw what an Oline looked like when we were left to rely on alot of young players, and developmental projects. It was a DISASTER.

No rookie is going to be able "develop" on a line or in a situation that is as bad and dysfunctional as what we saw last season. The way you stabilize it is by bringing in some vets - we lost Randy Thomas, we lost Chris Samuels, we've not had a decent vet RT since Jon Jansen 4-5 years ago.

Vets like these are going to help make the difference between an actual rebuilding process with promise, and what we saw last year...

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

McMetal post on a church site if you want politeness and respect. It is the internet, people can do and say pretty much whatever they want, ya dig.

If you dont like, then dont participate or just read and SHUT UP.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 5, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Dude, stop it...if the Skins take another safety in the top 10, I'm going to Redskins Park with pitchforks, torches, and machine guns. Worst case scenario, you take one of the DTs or--better yet--trade down. You DO NOT take a damn safety!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 11:42 AM

I couldn't vote on the last thread b/c "D. Whateves." was not a choice, but whether to replace Sean Taylor with the first pick of the draft is something I leave completely in the hands of the Shanahallen. Its their honeymoon and I'm offering up the honeymoon salad (lettuce alone). Whatever they build, how they instill whatever new ethic, with whatever sort of lockerroom leader (disregardless of the W-2s sent to the roster for FY 2010), more power to 'em. I'm going to sit back and get my (T.O. brand) popcorn.

In some ways, the post-cap world really can be bizarro world anyway. The quotes from around the league are that "no one knows what's going to happen." Well, if you don't make something happen, something is going to happen to you. I figure that the Skins are pretty well positioned to make something happen. Just what that is ... well ... that's why I'm grabbing my popcorn (and, while you're up, could you grab me another cold one from the fridge?).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

You can rebuild, and have some vet Olinemen on the roster so you can actually like you know....run an offense.

p1funk is preaching truth, the rest b charlatans!

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Hunter the Punter was most explosive playmaker the team had last year. Lock him up.

Posted by: timchadwick | March 5, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I said its going to take 2 years... wow I said that in that post dumda$$ brown... wow you really are a waste of space. I rememeber you from back when i posted before... never an intelligent post.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 11:51 AM


Never an intelligent post...yet you just agreed with it.

You REALLY wear that handle beautifully...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

So far so good!!!! I like what allen and shanny are doing.

Posted by: TheJury | March 5, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

People... can we stop this. This is going no where. We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here.

These signings are not meant, in any way, to make us a championship caliber team like in the past. We are accumulating depth on the oline to ensure that what happened to us last year will not happen to us this year (if we sign either, or both Pashos or Clifton). By no means are we trying to win it all this year, like we did last year with Big Fat Al. We, I assume since Shanny and Bruce seem to know what they are doing, will draft a few olineman as well to begin to create our own FUTURE line. But without stop gaps, we will go 0-16 next year. Thats it. Simple... nothing other than finding bodies to come in and play for 2010... just like Campbell. Clearly not the future, but to help us survive 2010 without getting destroyed. And if they play to their potential (big if, but still if), we might finish 7-9 or 8-8...

Shanny and Bruce are making the right decisions... this is smart football. Get help in the trenches, hopefully draft for the future and move on... stop this stupid argument please and realize that this is how a SMART TEAM operates and rebuilds itself... bring in stop gaps to take the lumps so our rookies can learn and progress... SIMPLE FOOTBALL 101.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

haha, I love the darts being thrown today, welcome to the weekend folks...

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 5, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

stupid1, I'm with you on the necessity of being acquisitive in the area of the O line. Even though I have no delusions about championships and such as, I really want our offense not to suck this fall, and that's about the O line.

Red, surely you're aware that while there's no rule that says a team has to act right now to solve your problems, this is the moment when the best available veteran players are up for grabs... hence the strident calls to action you're seeing up here today.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 5, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

They're supposed to be in re-build mode, which is why signing 30 plus year olds doesn't make any sense.

--------

Agreed they are in re-build mode (whether they admit it or not), but with no cap, and almost certainly no cap coming back, as long as Snyder will spend the money you don't lose anything bringing in stop-gaps at LT and RT.

The only issue is if they treat those stop gaps as it they are answers, and don't draft their replacements.

I'll hold out hope that Allen and Shanahan are much more foreword thinking than their predecessor.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | March 5, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here."

Actually not even registering in top 50....

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice the swipe that Chris Sameuls took at the Washington Post and Specfically, JAson Reid during his presser by thanking NBC4 and Comcast for keeping his retirement a secret until he announced it even though they have known for weeks on end he was going to retire.

He spoke of how it isn't always about who breaks a story 1st and he was glad those he choose not to snitch repected him on the way he wanted it to come out. That's what you call a direct shot without being direct......

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

We need EVERYTHING! While I understand the hesitation with picking a QB, we need everything...

1)Suh could sure up our line for years to come

2) Berry would give us an elite starting FS and giev us depth with Horton and Doughty.

The only idiotic pick would be a WR.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM


O-line, D-line, and QB (in that order).

Those are the only acceptable picks for THIS team, THIS year, in THIS draft.

When you build a team, you build from the line of scrimmage back. Spending a #4 pick and a sh*tload of money on a safety is dumb when you're rebuilding.

You'd be surprised how well our safeties play this year if the front 7 is ballin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here."

Actually not even registering in top 50....

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse


I know. This is like the best most relevant argument on RI in a long time.

Sure beats the heck out of debating the merits of Leigh Torrence AFTER he left or rehashing the reasons why Antonio Pierce left the team 4 years after it happened...

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

"

Did anyone notice the swipe that Chris Sameuls took at the Washington Post and Specfically, JAson Reid during his presser by thanking NBC4 and Comcast for keeping his retirement a secret until he announced it even though they have known for weeks on end he was going to retire.

He spoke of how it isn't always about who breaks a story 1st and he was glad those he choose not to snitch repected him on the way he wanted it to come out. That's what you call a direct shot without being direct......

Posted by: 4thFloor

Actually its called being delusional about how the world works.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Signing Chad Clifton would be big? Really?
Seriously what is wrong with Jason Reid? Clifton is a 33-year-old OL. That's hardly big. It's just really old. That's a season ending injury waiting to happen. Reid what the heck is goin on with you brother??!!

Posted by: dovelevine | March 5, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

The only idiotic pick would be a WR.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM


Who's the best tight end in the draft?

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

REDDMV,
you have to be in the running for dumbest POS in the history of this blog.

Posted by: Stu27


And you have to be int he running for most b*tch made motherfuc_er up here.

Gotta like co-signing punk-ass ma"fuc boys like this bama right here.

Go jerk-off with your brother with belts tied around your neck, you pu**y. Fu_k you!

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

rmcazz...

Sean Taylor was a #5 pick...

You take the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE. Eric Berry is arguably one of the best players in the whole draft and had a GREAT combine.

Personally, I'd take C.J. Spiller and then go O-line in Round 2

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

People... can we stop this. This is going no where. We are arguing the dumbest argument I've ever seen up in here...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Have you been up here much? This is nowhere near people in 2008 arguing about whether or not we should have kept Antonio Pierce.

This argument falls somewhere between 'Carolina BBQ vs St Louis BBQ' and 'Would Megan Fox's stumpy freakshow thumb dissuade you from banging her?'

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"Phillip Daniels, Redskins agree to terms on a new deal"

So Daniels, Jarmon, Haynesworth, Golston, Montegomery, Jackson, and (?) are our new flexible linemen?

I sense that a nose tackle is going to be drafted in round 2 after Sam Bradford/Jimmy Claussen in round 1.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Sure beats the heck out of debating the merits of Leigh Torrence AFTER he left or rehashing the reasons why Antonio Pierce left the team 4 years after it happened...

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse
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Maybe we could start a discussion about the Carrier/Smith/Sanders/George signings.

I mean, it IS the 10th anniversary.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | March 5, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

ou NEVER take a safety with a top 10 pick....EVER!
___________________________________

Unless his name is Sean Taylor... man that boys death set up back... stupid azz kids!

I'm surprised were not hearing anything yet on the Ryan Clark front... jump in & scoop him up... get LL back to SS.

So far, I like what were doing... We only got 5 picks & you KNOW one of those is gonna be a QB... there is nothing wrong with patching a hole this year, provided you also get some depth in case of injury, that is what has been killing this team the last couple of years. So, ok to sign old Clifton but we also have to find a competent backup LT.

Posted by: tony325 | March 5, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Also Brown... and this is the last time I will resond to a comment from you, because you clearly do not understand football, or have any real intelligence... My POINT was that you said I didn't say something, and that I was arguing something I was not. Calling you retarded was because you clearly cannot read.

You agreed with my point, while not admitting I made it, and call me stupid for agreeing with your point, that I had just made... So let me put it this way... please do us a favor and go follow the cowboys. You insult the fan base and are the reason danny boy spent all that money... to please stupid fans like you who do not understand football.

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

The dumbest argument up here evah was the Disaster Relief Air Craft Carriers....

That SJK was like something from The Onion.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice the swipe that Chris Sameuls took at the Washington Post and Specfically, JAson Reid during his presser by thanking NBC4 and Comcast for keeping his retirement a secret until he announced it even though they have known for weeks on end he was going to retire.

He spoke of how it isn't always about who breaks a story 1st and he was glad those he choose not to snitch repected him on the way he wanted it to come out. That's what you call a direct shot without being direct......

Posted by: 4thFloor


Really? He couldn't have been referring to Reid. I don't think Reid has ever broken a story first.

I did notice that Samuels gave shout-outs to a bunch of players that he worked with, respected and had high praise for. He mentioned Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright...funny b/c there has been another RB on our roster for years that wasn't mentioned...

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Actually its called being delusional about how the world works.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:06 PM

Chilvary is indeed, Dead.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The dumbest argument up here evah was the Disaster Relief Air Craft Carriers....

That SJK was like something from The Onion.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse


No argument here. That exchange lasted like a day and a half.

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

never existed 4th....also some "secret" that he was going to retire....

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The dumbest argument up here evah was the Disaster Relief Air Craft Carriers....

That SJK was like something from The Onion.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse


LMAO. I forgot about that one.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

stupid1, didn't you say that "Beggers can't be choosy"? That Clifton is the only option?

You're making it sound like if they didn't sign him this team would be utterly fu_ked.

And they wouldn't.


Agree, p1 this is a relevant and entertaining argument. I know this beucase there are some opinions I usually agree with and respect that in this occasion differ with.

It's all good....

Hell it's nearly 12:30 already on Friday!

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

With so many scenarios, I figure its time for mine. Based upon recent development, I believe Shanahan is trading down after a nose tackle in lower round 1, first pick in round 2 will be a QB. If trading down gives us an extra pick in round two or three, I will think a RB. The remaining picks will be spent on extra Oline, etc....

Posted by: abxinc | March 5, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, we have Daniels and Haynesworth: that's two of the three pillars needed for the 3-4. As I said earlier, I could visualize Alexander filling this role but they seem to be interested in making him an outside linebacker. I guess the next best option is to pull one of the tackles into an end spot. Golston? Rob Jackson? It sounds like they are looking at free agent DE Babin but I think he would end up being a linebacker, too.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or am I the only who remembers Lorenzo pulling a hammy while trying to chase down westbrook when the eagles were at Fed Ex. I love the guy. I really do. Quintesential utility guy. However, outside LB? Huh? At one time he was the extra lineman in the jumbo package. I would pass but I'm sure Haslett knows more football then I can forget.

Posted by: overzealous08 | March 5, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"The only idiotic pick would be a WR."


I'm sorry, but if Jordan Shipley is there at the start of round 4, I'm taking him to replace ARE.

Shipley is going to be a more than solid NFL player.

I bet the team finds another starting o-lineman besides Clifton in FA, and will draft some low round linemen guys.

And if we can find another wr in undrafted types, that's even better.

You see, until M Kelly proves otherwise, he--unlike Thomas or Davis--has bust written all over him.

Marko Mitchell is the independent variable in all our wr thinking.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Honestly RED just the staight suck. You cannot be a skins fan. or you have not seen this team on offense the last couple years. We need oline. any and every way we can get them.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 5, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Disaster Relief Aircraft Carriers?

Must've been during my snow/work/olympics/capitals blogsabbatical. Do I want to know?

Posted by: 4-12 | March 5, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"NFL Network reporter Jason La Canfora writes the Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles have offers on the table for Peppers."

Good, as long as Mr.Peepers doesn't come here.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | March 5, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Dumbest Arguments on RI

1) Aircraft Carrier Disaster Relief
2) Anything related to Cork's political views
3) Megan Fox's thumb
4) Leigh Torrence
5) Antonio Pierce
6) Jason Taylor
7) Trading Portis and or Betts for a 2nd or 3rd round pick

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Pashos (or Gandy), Clifton, Jones, and Heyer as tackles.

Any thoughts on this?

'Cuz it looks like what we'll be talking about all weekend and early next week.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Agree 100%. Maybe Berry comes into play now if he's there. Still not crazy about another top 5 pick on a safety but he sounds like the real deal.

Posted by: skinswest | March 5, 2010 11:35 AM


Dude, stop it...if the Skins take another safety in the top 10, I'm going to Redskins Park with pitchforks, torches, and machine guns. Worst case scenario, you take one of the DTs or--better yet--trade down. You DO NOT take a damn safety!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 11:42 AM

Like it or not elite safeties are a necessity in the NFL - Ed Reed, Polamalu, etc.

Either way Clifton would probably just be a 2-3 yr stop gap allowing you to look at other positions with the #4 than just LT. Personnaly I'd like to see them take Okung (if he's there) and put him at RT for a year instead of Berry. But if they went with Berry I wouldn't have a problem with it.

They'll probably go QB anyway and this debate will be moot.

Posted by: skinswest | March 5, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

You NEVER take a safety with a top 10 pick....EVER!

NEVER, EVER!

Safeties and fullbacks are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Posted by: rmcazz | March 5, 2010 11:53 AM

Still, seems like Sean Taylor worked out OK(and would have continued to do so). Yes, Landry hasn't be all that. Ed Reed (#16) and Troy Polamulu (#16) also worked out OK, but agreed that neither were top ten.

Dime a dozen is safeties and full backs as special teamers. I don't think we have enough dimes to rely on Reed Doughty or Kareem Moore becoming the ball hawking fix at free safety ... but I could be wrong. Maybe one of those two will be the guy we never had last year. Or maybe LaRon will. Still feels like it would be good to replace Sean Taylor (assuming Shanahallen thinks Eric Berry would be that guy).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell is the independent variable in all our wr thinking.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse


Marko Mitchell = Brandon Marshall 2.0

Upgraded without all the attitude/immaturity.

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"It is the internet, people can say pretty much whatever they want.

If you dont like, then SHUT UP."

Thanks, now I realize what I am up against.

Sorry for trying to raise the bar in here. I'm not sure how advocating respect for other people is playing the victim, but I'll refrain from making attempts to facilitate a more rational exhange of ideas and opinions.

Posted by: McMetal | March 5, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

And I don't know who said this... but if we do not sign an olineman, probably 2... we will be screwed. Drafting an Olineman and expecting him to start day 1 and be good day 1 is not a smart football move. We may not NEED clifton, but he is the best option out there, sadly, and so it is intelligent to go after him... IF he comes in at our price (whatever that is). Our otions are extremely limited, with nothing in house, so YES if we do not sign an olineman we will be screwed... completely true.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse


I'm sorry, but if Jordan Shipley is there at the start of round 4, I'm taking him to replace ARE.

Shipley is going to be a more than solid NFL player.

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I'm sure Cerrato thought the same thing about Kelly, Dev, and Sleep Dav a few years back. We've had that thinking before and it got us zilch. QB or O line at #4. I'm almost scared of the Rams getting Bradford b/c Clausen is just not worth that pick--even Notre Dame fans have admitted that much.

Posted by: pgugino | March 5, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1


Just because you conjured up this in your head, doesn't mean that teams build that way.

Seriously (excluding Madden), who builds teams that way?

Every time, I see a new GM come in they DRAFT not sign FA linemen (See: Parcells MIA/DAL), and if they do sign linemen they draft young linemen.

There is a bigger payoff at gathering an assembly of young talent. They'll push each other because they'll each think they have a legit chance at starting.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or am I the only who remembers Lorenzo pulling a hammy while trying to chase down westbrook when the eagles were at Fed Ex. I love the guy. I really do. Quintesential utility guy. However, outside LB? Huh? At one time he was the extra lineman in the jumbo package. I would pass but I'm sure Haslett knows more football then I can forget.
Posted by: overzealous08 | March 5, 2010 12:13 PM

This one has me scratching my head too…..isn’t he up around 280 lbs or more? I have never heard of anyone who has played DT switching to an OLB, or being considered an effective cover guy. Not sure that I like this one. Only guy that size I can think of who was any good was Levon Kirkland, and he was ILB, and not good in coverage (great against the run of course).

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 5, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Pashos (or Gandy), Clifton, Jones, and Heyer as tackles.

Any thoughts on this?

'Cuz it looks like what we'll be talking about all weekend and early next week.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:17 PM

Not bad. However, do you still draft an OL with your top pick or during the 1st day of the draft?

Posted by: overzealous08 | March 5, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:08 PM


Wow, dude...

"30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams"

With award-winning material like that, how can I argue? I mean, it's a stroke of brilliance for someone to pay $7 million per year for a vet LT to "let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it", then pay said rookie about the same exact salary to sit on the bench and learn. No chance that a team should actually--gasp!--put a #4 overall pick on the field Week 1, provided he's proven worthy of the job after a full training camp and preseason of work.

If you're trying to prove that you're a bigger idiot than I thought you were, then mission accomplished. I'm just gonna thank the sweet baby Jesus and an assortment of other gods that you have NO bearing whatsoever on the decisions made at Redskins Park.

RedDMV, I'm out...keep fightin' the good fight, homey.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

The only idiotic pick would be a WR.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 11:48 AM

Who's the best tight end in the draft?

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:06 PM

Precisely, I've been eyeing this year's crop of punters (again).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Trade #4 to Seattle for #14 and #40

#14 - Baluga/Williams
#37 - Ducasse/Asamoah
#40 - Ryan Matthews/Jahvid Best
4th - Shipley/David Reed
5th & 7th - DT/LB

Find some speed dudes in UDFA...

Sign Clifton and Pashos for depth/starting.

Sign Dansby.

That's a significant upgrade to the squad right there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 5, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Honestly RED just the staight suck. You cannot be a skins fan. or you have not seen this team on offense the last couple years. We need oline. any and every way we can get them.

Posted by: Stu27


Listen, you crackbaby, I've said A MILLION times that they need to upgrade the line!

Go back and fu_king read!

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge drafting for Washington: "And with the fourth pick, I choose... everyone. Thank you."

Did you ever wonder why players leave the Redskins and suddenly become big contributors elsewhere? It's the scheme, my friend. There is still a lot of talent on this roster even though some of those players didn't look so good last year. They were put into some bad situations. Landry was asked to do too much. Campbell was asked to throw with an offensive line that wasn't blocking so well. The running backs were not finding many holes. The defensive backs almost never played bump and run, lining up at least five yards from the LOS in most plays. The slowest receiver on the team was running deep go patterns while your mousey receivers were asked to take the underneath passes.

The most encouraging thing I have heard from Shanahan was how he would tailor his offense to match up with the strengths of his players. Zorn didn't do that. We're going to see great things from guys we thought were mediocre. Don't write off the entire roster. You'll be cheering for a lot of those guys this season.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

People ... can we stop this. This is going no where. ...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:00 PM

This sounds like a job for notguy.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Red;

not to piss you off since you clearly are the hardest person on the blog, but posts like yours are the reason i did stop commenting here a year ago.

if i want to hear someone talk a whole S load of trash with no way to back it up, i would go back to the 5th grade.

get over yourself, it aint that important and neither are you.

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Ahm Ray? Dude do you know who won the superbowl this year? Look at what Greg Williams has been drafting and WHERE!

YES, if the safety (Sean Taylor) is truly an elite athlete you draft him in the first round.

Honestly, quarterback is far riskier to draft first!!

Sheesh where do these people come from?

Posted by: periculum | March 5, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

This argument falls somewhere between 'Carolina BBQ vs St Louis BBQ' and 'Would Megan Fox's stumpy freakshow thumb dissuade you from banging her?'

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Damn that ish is funny 'cuz its true.

Red skin head: What time is it in DC?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 5, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Pashos (or Gandy), Clifton, Jones, and Heyer as tackles.

Any thoughts on this?

'Cuz it looks like what we'll be talking about all weekend and early next week.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:17 PM

Not bad. However, do you still draft an OL with your top pick or during the 1st day of the draft?

Posted by: overzealous08

With all the injuries, you have to figure o-line at #4 is the only lock. We still have a hole at RG, plus we still need more depth than we have now. Although I'd rather us get much younger on the line with this draft. Either way, our approach is already better than years past.

Posted by: pgugino | March 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Daniels celebrated his signing by bench-pressing the Lincoln Memorial.

Posted by: TheCork | March 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, my first priority is an upgrade at #5 WR to replace ARE, but my personal first choice, a kid named Brandon Lloyd, just re-signed with Denver.
Man, from fingertip to that flap of skin next to your thumb, he's all-pro.

Posted by: daggar | March 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

MK12-I think we need to let a qualified offensive coordinator make that evaluation. He's a 6'4'' good route runner with sure hands. Maybe Kyle won't be sending him deep every play in an offense that can't even complete a 3 step drop.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"Not bad (Clifton, Gandy, Heyer, Pashos as tackles). However, do you still draft an OL with your top pick or during the 1st day of the draft?"


Well, the one line spot not talked about is right guard.

Am I wrong to say that Mike Williams' presence on the team suggests he, Rhinehart, and maybe M Iupati (or some other drafted right guard) will be fighting for that spot?

I hope not.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

but I'll refrain from making attempts to facilitate a more rational exhange of ideas and opinions.

good, now either shut up with your incessant whining, or find somewhere else...thanks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV ,

Again... read my post. Please read. Try it... i know its hard for your 3rd grade IQ... but READ.

FOR THE LAST TIME:
My point, is that you have to DRAFT AND ACCUMULATE YOUNG TALENT. That is vital to a football team... YOUNG, hard working talent. HOwever, that talent takes time to develop. They do not come out of the draft reading to go (MOST OF THE TIME)... and so you go pick up 30 year old players, as STOP GAPS... to hold things down for a year or two. Then the young talent comes in, fighting the OTHER YOUNG TALENT you've accumulated, and fight for playing time...

HOLY Shi^it makes sense... wow no way. An intelligent comment??? NO way... again.. read my posts and you MIGHT comprehend what it is i am trying to say, as you essentially stated exactly what I was saying. I am not saying we rely on thse 30 year olds... sign them and then say that our Oline is fixed... cause its not. Please understand that. Please for the love of God... realize that I am not saying that 30 year old lineman are perfect for the long term but perfect for a year or two... since you will not find 5-6 starters in 1 draft. Doesn't happen. Building a talent pool takes time, and so you get these older guys to... wait for it.... wait for it.... build the young talent you keep talking about... wow again no way...

Red and Brown... keep fighting that good old fight to being the two most useless commentors on here... please continue to dumb down the conversation day in and day out so the rest of us have to waste or time explaining our position 10 times to you so you two can understand it... i know its hard but please try to read...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Trade #4 to Seattle for #14 and #40

#14 - Baluga/Williams
#37 - Ducasse/Asamoah
#40 - Ryan Matthews/Jahvid Best
4th - Shipley/David Reed
5th & 7th - DT/LB

Find some speed dudes in UDFA...

Sign Clifton and Pashos for depth/starting.

Sign Dansby.

That's a significant upgrade to the squad right there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 5, 2010 12:26 PM

There's a sequence to these things ... first the first round of unrestricted free agency, then trades and whatever experimenting is going to happen in restricted free agency, then the draft, the more unresticted free agency and trades. Then June and nothing but Nate's posts about beer and bacon maple donuts.

But you hit the head on the nail ... Clifton, Pashos, and Dansby are all going to be gone quickly in the first round of unrestricted free agency.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell is the independent variable in all our wr thinking.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell = Brandon Marshall 2.0

Upgraded without all the attitude/immaturity.

Posted by: p1funk | March 5, 2010 12:20 PM
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MM will have to put on about twenty-five pounds of muscle to equal Brandon Marshall. Marshall flat out runs through defensive backs. He's like having another tight end on the field.

I'd settle for MM to just do what he did in last preseason and that is to get open deep.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Sween - I wasn't really going for chronological order, just the order which the little baloons pop into my head...

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 5, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I can see your ears steaming now red, probably furiously typing away some sort of nonsensical retort about bama's (again a 5th grade word) etc...

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Dumbest Arguments on RI
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Before start ranking....We need a list!

* Barno and JLaC...Re: Chris Cooley signed CD (The original RI beef)

* Brunell is done....AGAIN

* Gregggg Williams vs. LaVar (each blogger choose sides)

* Take Brunell out and Put Campbell in there

* Sean Taylor - WTF is he thinking NOT calling back a HOF Head Coach?

* Art Monk HOF Candidcy

* Blow Up vs. Rebuild

* Antoni Pierce

* Betts should start

* MArcus MAson should make the team

* Deep Cover

* Leigh Torrence argument started by JLaC

* JLaC vs. Vinny and then JLa going to whine about it to Florio who in turned wrote about the whole whining thing.

* Ryan Clark leaving was the reason for Sean Taylor's down year.

* Blowing up the TEam vs. Just adding a few more pieces

* Obama

* Bush

* BAma

* Boofer

* Annonymous Sources

* Dog Fighting vs. Horse Racing

And I am sure I missed alot....But this was just off the top of my head...

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Red and Brown ... the two most useless commentors on here ...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:32 PM

Agree to disagree ... and want in on that ... I didn't appreciate that we actually had to compete for the title.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

AND by the way... if that top draft choice comes in and proves he can play... play him. THEN we move those 30 year olds to the bench and protect ourselves for when Rabach or Dockery pull up lame, or the RT proves ineffective, or the young LT struggles and we need someone to come in to give him some time to learn... i mean i never said dont play him if hes proven hes ready... if hes ready to go... play him... if not were protected.... thats why a 30 year old player is PERFECT for a rebuilding team... and that is the last time I will talk about this... the smart people out there continue to agree with me, and yet Red and Brown, clearly the 2 most football savvy people on this blog keep disagreeing... either way... everyone but you 2 agrees with me on this one

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Also...

Portis vs. BMitch

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

They will sign these two guys in order to hold down the fort.

They will draft Jimmy Clausen because he is Shanny's kind of QB...I.E CUTLER

They will then draft a Tackle with the #37 pick

our 4th or 5th round pick will be a RB

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 5, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Listen, you crackbaby, I've said A MILLION times that they need to upgrade the line!

Go back and fu_king read!

Posted by: RedDMV

And I've told you a BILLION times, stop exaggerating.

May I mention again, how impressed we all are that you have such a mastery of the art of "cussing" without really cussing by leaving out a critical letter of the cussword you use?

Believe me we are all intimidated AND impressed by that.

Keep up the good work.

All blogs need an enforcer and we're too busy saving the Redskins to shop around for another goon right now.

Okay, you may now proceed with your clever comebacks, consisting of age jokes and how everyone sleeps with my sister. Blah blah blah.

If you want to expand your imaginative use of cussage, I highly recommend the movie "In the Loop," nominated for best screenplay.

Posted by: TheCork | March 5, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

This argument falls somewhere between 'Carolina BBQ vs St Louis BBQ' and 'Would Megan Fox's stumpy freakshow thumb dissuade you from banging her?'

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Damn that ish is funny 'cuz its true.

Red skin head: What time is it in DC?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 5, 2010 12:29 PM
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It's five hours different from Kaneohe if that's what you are asking. AND, if you are referring to my post about the people posting at 2:00 am, you get a mulligan. I saw some names on the post however, that are usually posting all day long, so I am pretty sure they stayed up late hoping the Redskins made the big signing.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I see Pashos as a much more likely get for us than Clifton. We can pay him all we want but GB also wants him back and they have a much better squad that can go deep in the playoffs--especially if Favre isn't back in Minnesota next season.

Posted by: pgugino | March 5, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but if Jordan Shipley is there at the start of round 4, I'm taking him to replace ARE.

Shipley is going to be a more than solid NFL player.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:14 PM

Couldn't agree more, Shipley would be a nice addition. Sometimes the measurables don't tell the whole story. Guy is gamer w/ savvy and feel.

Posted by: saltine182 | March 5, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

4th, good list...impressed that its off the top of your head....nicely done...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:08 PM


Wow, dude...

"30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams"

With award-winning material like that, how can I argue? I mean, it's a stroke of brilliance for someone to pay $7 million per year for a vet LT to "let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it", then pay said rookie about the same exact salary to sit on the bench and learn. No chance that a team should actually--gasp!--put a #4 overall pick on the field Week 1, provided he's proven worthy of the job after a full training camp and preseason of work.

If you're trying to prove that you're a bigger idiot than I thought you were, then mission accomplished. I'm just gonna thank the sweet baby Jesus and an assortment of other gods that you have NO bearing whatsoever on the decisions made at Redskins Park.

RedDMV, I'm out...keep fightin' the good fight, homey.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 5, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

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Brownwood,

I'm all for our #4 being an LT that can start right away, but with no cap their really isn't an issue with bringing in stop-gap guys at LT and RT. The cap won't be coming back, so if Snyder is willing to spend the money, and the position is a need, their isn't harm in reinforcing it - even with some short term older dudes.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | March 5, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

... just the order which the little baloons pop into my head...

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 5, 2010 12:36 PM

Werd. I typed about the bacon maple donuts but edited it to add the other stuff that comes beforehand.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

30 year old lineman are PERFECT for rebuilding teams, as long as that said team then DRAFTS a replacement. We take the 30 year old, play him while the team sucks, let him suck/ take the lumps and have the rookie learn from it. THEN when you have built the talent necessary, IE draft a QB who can play (still not giving up on Campbell but thats awhole different argument) you bring in the YOUNG LT/RT and let them play. ITS called REBUILDING people... i know danny has made this seem impossible to understand with his stupidity... but what most teams do around the league.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1


Just because you conjured up this in your head, doesn't mean that teams build that way.

Seriously (excluding Madden), who builds teams that way?

Every time, I see a new GM come in they DRAFT not sign FA linemen (See: Parcells MIA/DAL), and if they do sign linemen they draft young linemen.

There is a bigger payoff at gathering an assembly of young talent. They'll push each other because they'll each think they have a legit chance at starting.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 12:21 PM |

In Dallas Parcells drafted very few OL. He had a veteran group but drafted (and kept) only one dratee:Pat Mcquistan. With Miami he has only drafted Jake Long and everyone else were already there or he picked up a few in FA. A little misnomer for Bill Parcells. Defense is his baby of which he has done an excellent job in developing everywhere he went.

Posted by: overzealous08 | March 5, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

4th;

calling for JLA to leave
registration
wiki;

actually dont know if those were arguements, but just about every topic is an argument on RI....

a year away did not really change anything

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Disaster Relief Aircraft Carriers?

Must've been during my snow/work/olympics/capitals blogsabbatical. Do I want to know?

Posted by: 4-12 | March 5, 2010 12:15 PM


I believe they are refering to the redskins apparrel (You know - HOF worthy Archbingus shirts and Jeff George Jerseys) that was collecting dust in a warehouse being shipped to Haiti....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

What better way to celebrate winning another offseason than with a beer and a coupla maple bacon donuts?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 5, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

And I am sure I missed alot....But this was just off the top of my head...

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse


WR/TE/WR

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Red;

not to piss you off since you clearly are the hardest person on the blog, but posts like yours are the reason i did stop commenting here a year ago.

if i want to hear someone talk a whole S load of trash with no way to back it up, i would go back to the 5th grade.

get over yourself, it aint that important and neither are you.

Posted by: Zeebs


Then why fix your fingers to type the sh*t, then? What you the resident sheriff up here today, fuc_k you, fu_k everybody that got an issue how or what I post. And that's just how it go...

And, what's up man, are you trying to see me or something? What's up with the "if i want to hear someone talk a whole S load of trash with no way to back it up" bullsh*t... dude, if you want bring it to me I'd have NO problem with meeting in a neutral place to settle our differences.

And it's not like I'm the only one who posts messages on this board in the context I do. Plenty other people do the same sh*t, but I don't see you taking their hand and trying to "son" them.

No, b*tch. Get over your own goddamn self. You are weak in the first place for folding your tents like a b*tch made ass pu**y and leaving the blog because you don't like the tone of somebody's post.

What a sorry piece of sh*t you must be.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

ahem:

"Well, the one line spot not talked about is right guard."

The tackle spots will be improved.

But what about right guard?

Any thoughts?

Mine begin with M Iupati playing alongside T Pashos.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 5, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

They will sign these two guys in order to hold down the fort.

They will draft Jimmy Clausen because he is Shanny's kind of QB...I.E CUTLER

They will then draft a Tackle with the #37 pick

our 4th or 5th round pick will be a RB

Posted by: byrdinthesky | March 5, 2010 12:39 PM

This is one that goes in the vault for bragging rights later. Seems completely plausible ... except if there is a trade before the first round pick that blows up the whole thing.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

As for the xanax, I don't need it. You're mother is a very good teacher -- her brain game is off the meters, son...

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse


How about propofol?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 5, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

ARE comments from the Lamar/Dukes show:

"But you can tell already with Bruce being involved and Mike Shanahan, guys who are proven -- and it's no knock against Jim at all, I still think that if Jim had some of the tools that he needed on offense we'd have been much better off and he probably would still be here -- but with having Bruce and having Mike there, I think you'll see a big difference. Because Dan can sit back and let those guys really do what he wants, what he expects. That's my take on my time here."

has to put a smile on your face to hear that...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I love watching stupid people call stupid people stupid. This is kinda like a never-ending Farrelly Bros movie about Redskins fans.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 5, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

McMetal, baby, you gotta lighten up a little.

It took me a long time to dial down my hypersensitivity about the conversation up here, but eventually I did, and I feel great! I usually try to pick my spots and just stay away when it gets really messy... and I'll admit I don't like it when it gets really disrespectful and mean up here. And I try to keep a sense of humor on hand at all times.

Not a sermon, just a thought.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 5, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

brown, I'm stretched like the US Military up here, fighting on to many fronts... violating "The Art of War"...

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

calling for JLA to leave
registration
wiki;

By Zeebs

====================

Hellz YEah...Forgot about Registration! JLa to leave was a 2 year thing up here...lol..

...and the wiki was classic....

I forgot about the non registration days....and the classic 'characters' who popped in...

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Disaster Relief Aircraft Carriers?

Must've been during my snow/work/olympics/capitals blogsabbatical. Do I want to know?

Posted by: 4-12 | March 5, 2010 12:15 PM

M/V Sally Struthers piloted by Capt. zcezcest. Post-Haiti, pre-Chile.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

overzealous08... nicely done...

However, Olineman should be drafted. You create your team based on your olineman... Hogs were the skins back inthe 80's and early 90's. Your teams character comes from the guys upfront who take the brunt of the game head on... without "your" guys up there, your team will be soft...

That being said, it takes TIME to get "your" guys for all 5 spots. It takes time to find the right players who can play. SO you need stop gaps... you need 30 year old players... to come in and protect the qb, open up some holes and help the team along the way. I cant believe we are still arguing this. But still, its a simple concept, eventually Brown and Red will get it... they may be a little slower but eventually they'll figure out how to build a football team... its ok... without them we might actually have an intelligent conversation about how switching to the 3-4 right now isn't the right decision... but no we have to spend our time discussing the merits of building an oline properly... oh well...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Just heard: Pats and Eagles also have offers for Peppers now. If the Eagles get Peppers they will be very scary on D--with him AND Trent Cole. And if Peppers is looking at the best team pursuing him, right now it is the Eagles. The Bears are fighting for relevance in their division, and the Pats legacy is definitely over.

Posted by: pgugino | March 5, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

btw, lol at RedDMV's "co-signing", that's probably the best insult I've seen him hurl.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 5, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

sween, whether we're talking average uselessness level per comment, or cumulative uselessness across body of commenting work, II think you inadvertently acknowledged above (beer and donuts) that I've got a big head start on you in that department.

And am adding to that with this very comment.

Book it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 5, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Just heard: Pats and Eagles also have offers for Peppers now. If the Eagles get Peppers they will be very scary on D--with him AND Trent Cole. And if Peppers is looking at the best team pursuing him, right now it is the Eagles. The Bears are fighting for relevance in their division, and the Pats legacy is definitely over.

Posted by: pgugino | March 5, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse


The Pats have a first rounder and 3 second round picks. I wouldn't be surprised if they came away from the draft with 4-5 new starters. I wouldn't count them out of anything.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 5, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

... and the classic 'characters' who popped in ...

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 12:48 PM

Ms Teen South Carolina and not guy shall not be forgotten (though they deserve to be after their Week 17 Jets-like imposter disrespect for the real class of Coffee Flats).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fan of 47 years. Trying to get interested in free agency. But all I really care about right now is the Capitals.

Posted by: poguesmahone | March 5, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse


Daniels celebrated his signing by bench-pressing the Lincoln Memorial.

Posted by: TheCork | March 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

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Best post of the day -

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | March 5, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I guess I'm ok w/ that. I'm not all tingly, but it seems like discretion is our watchword this off-season. So that's cool.

Unless they have someone dynomiite lined up, I'd like to see Hunter back. He's the best we've had in a while. Albright has been solid so I wouldn't mid that either necessarily. But I'll defer for the time being.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 5, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

And therefore those skilled in war bring the enemy to the field of battle and are not brought there by him.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I say we move on... anyone agree? new topic... the 3-4 switch? Anyone think we can pull it off for next year and not have our D go from top 10 (even if it was a weak top 10) to middle of the pack or bottom of the pack?

3-4's place a ton of responsibility on the LBS and the NT, and right now the skins do not have 2 solid 3-4 lbs let alone 4 and do not have a NT that can handle the position. I understand Shanny wants to make the move, and overall I like the 3-4 more than a 4-3 front, but you need the proper personnel and we do not have it.

Hopefully, for this year, we use a hybrid in which we split it up and use some 4-3 as well, outside of the nickle and dime packages which by nature of 4 down lineman....

Just a thought, but we have so many needs on offense/ and sooooo many needs for a 3-4 defense that its just not possible to fix them all in 1 offseason... why take a "strength" (i guess our D was a strength last year but eh thats toughto say) and make it a possible weakness?

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

:'-[

I miss Haiku man.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 5, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

... we might actually have an intelligent conversation about how switching to the 3-4 right now isn't the right decision ...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 12:49 PM

We've been having this conversation for nearly a month now (more since Shanahan's Combine presser). I figure that we won't know the answer till they decide whether to trade Andre Carter. If yes, its all down hill from there and the conversation up here, intelligent or not, can switch back to hammies and hemmies. If no, then it was all a ruse to make people think we were targeting a NT with the second pick. [Shanahallen is just that clever.]

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

is this thing on?

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Randel El was pretty classy about getting canned.

Better than Cartright anyway

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 5, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I know Daniels is a locker room guy but I still question the signing of a 37 year old DE.

Posted by: joeboggs | March 5, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

This thread is turning into one of those 80's TV episodes where the writers were out of ideas so they just snowed all the characters in and let them sit around sipping cocoa and ran flashback clips.

"Remember when JM220 used to smack people with a hammer? Those were the days."

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 5, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

all the players who got cut were better than cartwright....

Daniels isn't like your normal 37 year old...anyone who can squat 700 plus pounds, isn't close to normal....corky struggles squatting down to do up the velcro on his shoes...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Potsie! Al! Ralph Malph!

... have we jumped the shark?

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 5, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh, this thread is about Daniels. I forgot about that. Daniels will be the starter in the base package rotation during 3-4 front weeks. Haynesworth will be the other. Someone else will be the NT. Book it.

Also, 8 weeks will have more snaps in 4-3 than 3-4. The other 8 weeks will have more snaps in 3-4 than 4-3. Book it.

I want a flight to Vegas. Book it.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

The Pats have a first rounder and 3 second round picks. I wouldn't be surprised if they came away from the draft with 4-5 new starters. I wouldn't count them out of anything.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17

Noted, and there's a lot of potential there. But now they've got to prove themselves with those picks. The Eagles are there already and I don't want them getting better.

Posted by: pgugino | March 5, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

so red;

in arguments you have with real people, not in computer world, you talk like that and 'front' on someone like that huh?

and i said posts 'like'... i.e. inane arguing with no real meat, just a bunch of profanity. not only you.

and yes, that type of back and forth bores me. i have better things to do with my time. and you certainly are not the first or last to post like that.

i just figured since there is a lot going on, there would be some good arguments to have with people without having to have some ignorant tirade like yours be the result.

and since you can take any disagreement or little needle like mine and get so 'puffed up' like superman, i will assume you are the real deal and should not be trifled with.

you calling people out the way you do is trying to 'see' someone...

and there have been arguments where people tell each other to meet each other. pretty lame for a bunch of people who spend their time writing to each other on a blog.

so if that is a real affront to your manhood, then i will try to sooth your sensitivities and let you know that was not my intent, but more to see if you could act right and not try to be a real a-hole to everyone you respond to.

and what is a "b*tch made ass pu**y"

who made it? its and ass and a p-ssy? intriguing.


Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Cerrato thought the same thing about Kelly, Dev, and Sleep Dav a few years back. We've had that thinking before and it got us zilch. QB or O line at #4. I'm almost scared of the Rams getting Bradford b/c Clausen is just not worth that pick--even Notre Dame fans have admitted that much.

Posted by: pgugino | March 5, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse
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What's the difference if he goes #14 to Seattle or #4 to the Redskins... I understand the whole value this & value that... but IF you believe that Clausen is a FRANCHISE QB, then you take him... because he will be gone within the first 1/2 of round 1. This isn't like WR's who get rated in Round 1 & drop to round 2 like say Devin Thomas did...

Trading back is way too dangerous if this is your guy... too many QB hungry teams... I wouldn't even count out the Raiders at #7, couldn't you see Clausen in Silver & Black?

I think the Redskins if they play their cards right are going to have stability at the coaching position for years... It sets up perfectly to have Kyle become HC after Daddy leaves provided the offense keeps tearing it up like it succeeded in Denver & Houston... so why not get a new QB now & take him along for the ride?

Posted by: tony325 | March 5, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Randel El was pretty classy about getting canned.

Better than Cartright anyway.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 5, 2010 12:58 PM

Better than Carlos Rogers anyway.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

all the players who got cut were better than cartwright....

Daniels isn't like your normal 37 year old...anyone who can squat 700 plus pounds, isn't close to normal....corky struggles squatting down to do up the velcro on his shoes...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 1:01 PM
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Corky strikes me as more of a bend over guy that a squatter kind of guy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 5, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

JC Buzz??
Did we get a 1st round pick yet for JC??

Come on somebody grab him.. we need the pick!!!

If Bradford and Clausen are considered 1st round material most likely selected in the first 5 picks of the Draft....
Why doesnt some team grab Jason Campbell, now, for the same 1st round pick compensation? In essence, if you have a low 1st round pick (20-32), he is even more valuable when you think of the other teams giving up picks 1-5 on Bradford and Clausen?
He is a sure thing.. and has 5 years NFL experience? Come on Minnesota!!! Do it!!

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 5, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The teams with multiple picks in the first round (Seattle and San Francisco) or the second round (New England, Tampa Bay, Kansas City) are the teams that are going to be allowed to play in restricted free agency.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

not guy was great;

who finally admitted to being him?

and hows amtts... i catch his online stuff from the season... does he have any dates in the dc area for standup?

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

is this thing on?

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 12:58 PM

Yes....We don't have Vinny anymore and Snyder is respecting the Football people in using their game strategy....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Red seems to have the intelligence of Carlos Rogers. Meds will do no good.

Posted by: Rahtard | March 5, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fan of 47 years. Trying to get interested in free agency. But all I really care about right now is the Capitals.

Posted by: poguesmahone

I cosign this!!

Posted by: chrislarry | March 5, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Its going to be nice to be back there hearing all the jibba jabba in person

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 5, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Redskins interested in Rex Grossman
Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2010 1:06 PM ET
It's fitting, we suppose, that a year after the Broncos welcomed with open arms a failed former Bears quarterback, the former Broncos coach would be interested in another one.

A league source tells us that the Washington Redskins are interested in Rex Grossman.

Grossman, a first-round draft pick in 2003, left the Bears for the Texans in 2009. He won the backup job behind Matt Schaub, who had a Pro Bowl season.

We're not quite sure, but we think we just heard a loud chorus of profanity from 240 miles away from our location in North Central West Virginia.

For his career, the boom-or-bust Grossman has a passer rating of 69.5. He led the Bears to the Super Bowl in 2006, with a passer rating of 73.9.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Ummm did anyone see the report that the Redskins are interested in REX GROSSMAN!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: BREV1 | March 5, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

yes, right above your post.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Yes....We don't have Vinny anymore and Snyder is respecting the Football people in using their game strategy....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 1:09 PM
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I'll believe that when Dan gives up his parking space at the Park and works from home.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 5, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I think that would be an "OK" move.....signing Rex as a back-up !!!

Posted by: chicoexcell | March 5, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

You're SUCH a pig fu@ker, Phillip!!

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 5, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Lions are busy acquiring D-linemen. They look to be setting themselves up to draft Okung at #2.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 5, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I think that would be an "OK" move.....signing Rex as a back-up !!! I mean...he was the back-up in Houston last yr...so I'm sure he's familiar with the new Offense that will be put into place.

Posted by: chicoexcell | March 5, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

yes, right above your post.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

LOL Yeah I saw it right after I submitted my post.

Posted by: BREV1 | March 5, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Grossman's here to take Collins' spot.

This might not bode well for the Cult of Colt lunatics. If the Skins go after a QB in the draft, bye bye Colt.

Posted by: psps23 | March 5, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

we need to start acting like we want suh or mccoy so some dumb team trades up with us (instead of being said dumb team)

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Grossman huh? Id rather have Campbell anyday

Posted by: CheyenneWY | March 5, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

LaVar had on all the disgruntled Redskins yesterday..Betts...CR22...Rock.....ARE was the only one who played it neutral...

http://1067thefandc.radio.com/2010/03/04/the-lavar-arrington-show-with-chad-dukes-30410/

They talk extendly about Rogers actions and choice of words.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 5, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I think Mike Williams can be a starting Guard for this team. He's only like 25 or 26.

I do not think the Oline depth was as bad as advertised. Remember, backup Olineman WITH A QB THAT HOLDS THE BALL TOO LONG is a disaster!

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I think the Redskins if they play their cards right are going to have stability at the coaching position for years... It sets up perfectly to have Kyle become HC after Daddy leaves provided the offense keeps tearing it up like it succeeded in Denver & Houston... so why not get a new QB now & take him along for the ride?

Posted by: tony325 | March 5, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse


I could stand Bradford possibly if he has a good pro day and shows he can throw hard and accurate.

I'll tell you why not Clausen.

#1 Clausen is not that great of a prospect. He has questionable arm strength, played an easy schedule, and is borderline height. He's only considered a top 4 because the QB supply is thin and demand is not.

#2 The price is a whole lot bigger of a deal when you're talking about taking a QB at #4 Overall. You're committing probably 70 million over 5-6 years to a guy that has never taken a snap.

#3 QBs have a 50% bust rate. A team with 5 draft picks and 7 holes in the roster shouldn't be flipping a coin with their most valuable draft pick.

#4 There could be a rookie wage scale coming in so tying up a ton of money to a QB prospect now seems stupid and shortsighted.

#5 We have more pressing needs than QB right now. We don't have a starting caliber left tackle on the roster. We don't have a starting caliber right tackle on the roster. We don't have a starting caliber right guard on the roster. We also nees a NT, FS, RB, and ILB more than we need a QB. If there is a better prospect at OL(Okung), RB (Spiller), FS(Berry), and ILB(McClain) then why take the QB?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 5, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I know Daniels is a locker room guy but I still question the signing of a 37 year old DE.

Posted by: joeboggs | March 5, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

You can't replace a team in one offseason through free agency and only 5 draft picks.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 5, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

4th, I thought I read that betts was pretty neutral as well, or was that incorrect? I know he did say he's got a lot of tread left...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 5, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Zeebs, you were the one that said that it was no way to back "the tough guy act". So I'm going to make you a believer.

And yeah, motherfu_ker, you can beat your MAMA'S ass that I talk like that in the "real world". Especially when little fu_ks like you try and carry me.

99% of the time I keep it clean. By clean I mean not insulting, I only do it when it's done first. And I'm not air you out gracefully. I'm be a ignorant ass_ole while doing it.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 5, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

PA;

yeah, maybe we should wait until there is a rook salary cap so drafting a 1st round QB does not sink your team like it used to.

or maybe that is not a problem without the cap coming back?

Eitherway, def no to clausen... he has bust written all over him,

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"I do not think the Oline depth was as bad as advertised. Remember, backup Olineman WITH A QB THAT HOLDS THE BALL TOO LONG is a disaster!

Posted by: rickyroge"

If only protecting the QB was the o-line's biggest problem:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/11572/scouts-inc-fixing-the-skins-run-game

Posted by: psps23 | March 5, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Eitherway, def no to clausen... he has bust written all over him,

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse


I'd just like to say at #4 he's got bust written all over him. At #37 he could be a real steal.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 5, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

#5 We have more pressing needs than QB right now. We don't have a starting caliber left tackle on the roster. We don't have a starting caliber right tackle on the roster. We don't have a starting caliber right guard on the roster. We also nees a NT, FS, RB, and ILB more than we need a QB. If there is a better prospect at OL(Okung), RB (Spiller), FS(Berry), and ILB(McClain) then why take the QB?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 5, 2010 1:17 PM
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because we dont have a starting QB.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 5, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Yet PaSkinsfan... with all those reasons against Clausen, none of them count against Bradford? Doesn't make sense since only like two of those were specifically bashing Clausen.....

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 5, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

PFT says we want Grossman.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | March 5, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

beep beep Mike W signing.

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 5, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Sexy Rexy or Jason Campbell. I think Grossman would win that competition.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 5, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

because we dont have a starting QB.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 5, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

You dont think he'd start on the Raiders, Bucs, Bills, Browns, Jets, Dolhins, Niners, or Cards?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 5, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"I'll tell you why not Clausen. posted by paskinsfan"

I have a couple comments.

1) Bradford is not an ideal QB prospect either, if you're comparing him to Aikman, Bledsoe, or Payton Manning. However he and Clausen are plenty good enough to fit into a group with, say Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez. I suspect that if ND had won a few more games, Clausen would be much more highly rated. Scouts like everybody else pay a lot of attention to the team's won-loss record.

2) The price for Clausen would be high, no doubt. Every year a couple teams take the risk. They think it's worth it.

3) I don't know if 'bust rate' is the correct term. Some are not successes, true. A few are outright busts. Jamarcus Russell looks like he qualifies. Busts are generally superb athletes who maybe performed well in college but weren't able to make the transition to the pros. Vince Young looked like a bust before the second half of last season. Heath Shuler was a bust. I don't know if you'd call David Carr a bust, for instance. Overrated and overpaid, yes. But what QB in the NFL isn't overpaid?

4) I don't know that the prospect of a rookie wage scale makes this a bad time to invest in a young QB.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 5, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Red;

you are funny. i am not going to go look back to the first time today you started in on someone without it being warranted, but it was 100% you.

Then Stu responded and called you a POS, then you went off.

So while you are acting like the little sensitive b@tch in reacting the way you do, i was letting you know that you can only back it up in person... not on the blog.

So what is the point. Like I said, people have talked that meetup junk before and it aint happening.

You truly feel the need to prove yourself, so be it. You can call people sh*t, and then tell people lets fight to prove you can backup your talk, but ultimately the point is this is not the real world or face to face.

I am not gonna go meet some fool who calls people names on a blog, then tries to prove it by assuring he will show up for the thrilla in manilla.

By the looks of your mental state as you reply to people, you seem pretty nuts, and an argument skins blog aint worth it.

But go ahead and keep calling me a little p*ssy if it makes you feel better and proves your manhood here on the blog. I am sure all of your fellow bloggers here will give you much respect for your bravado.

Posted by: Zeebs | March 5, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I am very glad to see Phillip Daniels back. I hope that this guy's work-ethic and "play through the pain" attitude rubs off on the new players. This guy tore his biceps and didn't miss a game. Cracked ribs, didn't miss a game. This guy's offseason training is from another planet. I followed his training online at the Monster Garage Gym and if 22 year olds trained that way they would win it all. Keeping a crafty and hard working soldier like Daniels is money in the bank and an investment in molding their team.

Posted by: RDSNZ | March 5, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

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