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Redskins, again, get ready to make a free agency splash

Looking around the ol' Internet, the consensus definitely appears to be that the Redskins will be active players during free agency. As we discussed in a story Sunday, no one is exactly certain how free agency will play out this year, but unlike a lot of teams, the Redskins have already been linked in media reports to two names. But fans should be cautioned these reports don't overtly say the Redskins will be bidding on these players.

The Post mentioned Julius Peppers on Sunday and here on Redskins Insider on Monday. What we hear is: Some people in the organization really like Peppers and think he can still be an impact player. Mike Shanahan came on board and it's not unusual for an owner to give his new coach a few new toys to play with, so it wouldn't be surprising to
see the team chase after Peppers, given the strong feelings of some in the organization.


And just because some at Redskins Park like the guy, that's certainly no guarantee that he's coming this way. After all, there are reportedly six to eight teams that could be pursuing his services.

And yes, we hear similar things about linebacker Karlos Dansby and running back Darren Sproles.

Because it's such a small market of unrestricted free agents, the buzz around any single free agent is going to be a lot louder than in past years -- mostly because many in the league think it can be a quiet free agent season. And that might explain why it already seems like the Redskins are going to throw money around, even though no one's really saying that.

That said, it wouldn't surprise anyone. They've got an owner who spends money, a coach who needs personnel to install new systems and the random luck that there probably won't be a salary cap next season.

So if the Redskins do, in fact, play the role of the aggressive suitor this offseason, which names do you think they should chase?

There are a few that we've been talking about and most of them center around holes that the team needs to fill (i.e. Peppers would give them a pass rusher, Sproles would be a speed back, Dansby would be a linebacker with 3-4 experience.)

Obviously left tackle is a big one. The two biggest unrestricteds might be Green Bay's Chad Clifton and Arizona's Mike Gandy. Tony Pashos would've seemed like a good candidate, but it seems San Francisco is going to try hard to lock him up before free agency begins on Friday. (Also, Orlando Pace was released yesterday but more than one talent evaluator has said that
he's essentially finished.)

Other names I'll be keeping an eye on: cornerback Dunta Robinson. The Redskins' will be tendering Carlos Rogers, but even if he's kept on board for only one more season, they'll still need another solution at corner and Rogers wasn't always impressive last season. New England's Leigh Bodden could also hit the market, but the Patriots could also lock him up before Friday.

Like Sproles, Minnesota's Chester Taylor could be that change-of-pace back the team lacks.

On the line, even if Randy Thomas returns, they might want to consider another option at right guard. Again, the market isn't deep, but Cincinnati's Bobbie Williams, Cincinnati, New England's Stephen Neal and Cleveland's Rex Hadnot will all be looking for work.On the defensive line, most any nose tackle worth his weight was tagged or re-signed quickly. Joey Porter probably isn't worth the trouble. And though Green Bay's Aaron Kampman will certainly draw some interest around the league, there are some in Green Bay who say he struggled switching to the 3-4 alignment.

Certainly there are other names we'll be hearing more about in the next few days, and maybe you've got a name or two that you'd like to see the team pursue.

By Rick Maese  |  March 2, 2010; 10:34 AM ET
Categories:  Free agency  
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Berry out-runs Haden at combine
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 2, 2010 10:48 AM ET
The defensive backs are running Tuesday morning at the NFL scouting combine, and the top two players in the position group had very different results in the 40-yard dash.

Tennessee's Eric Berry is in the process of solidifying his status as the top safety prospect with a good workout that included 40 times of 4.46 and 4.40 seconds. But Florida's Joe Haden, who entered the combine widely regarded as the top cornerback prospect, ran disappointing times of 4.57 and 4.60 seconds.

Those 40 times are unofficial, and unofficial times deserve plenty of scrutiny. But while we have Berry going fourth overall and Haden going fifth in our mock draft, Berry looked a lot more like a Top 5 pick on Tuesday morning than Haden did.

NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders, who knows a little something about playing defensive back and about running fast 40-yard dashes, said Haden looked uncomfortable from the beginning and even suggested that Haden might be getting some coaching that has made him self-conscious about his running technique.

"First of all, it was a horrible stance," Sanders said of Haden. "I don't know what he's being taught -- sometimes you've just got to let a guy run. Tweak him a little bit but don't try to change everything."

Sanders is right: When wearing a helmet and shoulder pads, Haden looks like a guy who has all the speed he needs. But when wearing his underwear Tuesday morning, Haden didn't look like an elite prospect.


Posted by: Flounder21 | March 2, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

67 votes already?

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Check out this article on the Redskins personnel and switching to 3-4:
http://billythedistinguishedgentlemen.blogspot.com/

Posted by: b145579 | March 2, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Yes Dansby.
No Peppers.
Maybe Sproles - unless they want to trade back and go RB in draft.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 2, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Here's a vote for landing at least one tackle and at least one guard via UFA. And then investing heavily in O line in the draft.

No on Peppers, no on Sproles.

I can't help wondering about my own 40 time. In my prime I could polish off a forty in about fifteen minutes, but it's been so long that I'm probably way out of shape.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 2, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Any takers on Jahri?
10:18AM ET
Jahri Evans | Saints
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There are several teams in need of some major help on the offensive line, and the talent on the unrestricted free agent list is not anything fantastic. Amongst the 212 players who would have been hitting that list, but instead are restricted free agents, is guard Jahri Evans, upon whom the New Orleans Saints have placed the high RFA tender.

In order to pry Evans away, an interested suitor must either reach a trade agreement with the Saints, or offer up a contract to Evans that is too high for them to feasibly match; if this second outcome occurs, the new team must give the Saints a first and third round draft pick. Still, it's possible that a team desperate enough for help on the O-line would explore this option.
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What about sending Carlos to the Saints to reunite him with GG, they need a corner, we need a guard.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Consensus?? What concensus? 100% lies...

The only person I see us going for is Sproles.

We won't be going after Peppers nor Dansby....Book it....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

What about right tackle? Heyer is not a NFL starter.

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Of course the "internet" is always correct...yeah right!

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 2, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

We won't be going after Peppers nor Dansby....Book it....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:19 AM

I've actually heard a couple reliable "inside" people say that Dansby is probably coming here...FWIW...

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 2, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I may be late with this one but of Peppers, Sproeles, and TO, one source says that TO would be a good big splash FA signing.

You could get him for cheap and only for 1-2 years. Let his work ethic rub off on our young receivers and if he dosen't work out, cut his butt.

And also, you would be looking at 4 games, the Cowboys and the Eagles, that TO would be super incentivized by to rub their noses in it.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

we could of had Pashos for near minimum in 2009 when Jax cut him loose last fall..
Thanks Vinny.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Of course the "internet" is always correct...yeah right!

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 2, 2010 11:22 AM

How can the guy be an "insider" when all he reports is what he gathers off the internet. If he's an insider, then I'm a league-source.

Posted by: League-Source | March 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

What about right tackle? Heyer is not a NFL starter.

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 11:22 AM |

I'm sure you are qualified to make this determination, but I will trust Shanny on this over you. At worse he is a good backup with game experience.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Dansby going to the G-girls?

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Heyer is not a NFL starter.

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 11:22 AM

Though he did play one on TV.

Posted by: dcsween | March 2, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Consensus?? What concensus? 100% lies...

The only person I see us going for is Sproles.

We won't be going after Peppers nor Dansby....Book it....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse
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I agree. Honestly, I just can't see us going after Peppers. We already have one elite edge rusher in Orakpo, probably the best inside DT in the NFL in Haynesworth, and Carter is a quality rusher, too (at least in a 4-3 set; not sure about him as a 3-4 'backer - I don't think he'll be as effective). Peppers seems to me to be a needless luxury item. Sproles would be a great pickup if the price is in any way reasonable. We could really use an explosive, quick, change of pace guy to truly complement CP. Sort of a modern day Joe Washington.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | March 2, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Ixnay on Otay.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 2, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

The Skins should have at least a 20% turnover of its roster this offseason, and the majority of that will likely be FAs.

Posted by: TWISI | March 2, 2010 11:12 AM


I'm fine with turnover this year and even into next year...it how we fill those holes that concerns me.

I'm not saying don't use FA...I'm just saying use it judiciously. Taking a few mid-level guys and getting production out of this year's draft class is important going into 2010. I just hate that some feel like we need to fill EVERY hole in 2010...if this team builds right, that ain't gonna happen.

We should have a full complement of picks in 2011...another chance to build up the roster.

I believe the saying is, "customize your roster in the draft, accessorize it in free agency". The Skins have been doing it backward for years and I'm just anxious to see that change.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

What about sending Carlos to the Saints to reunite him with GG, they need a corner, we need a guard.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 11:10 AM

Yeah, Williams is down there right now, having eaten six bowls of andouille gumbo, saying "Get me Carlos Rodgers and I'll get our second Lombardi. Can't tell you how much we need double-move." [Jack, this is more of your biting sarcasm, right?]

Posted by: League-Source | March 2, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

If we can't get an OT in FA, are there any good G's or C's to be got?

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 2, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

So....They will probably cut ARE and Andre Carter....I geuss with those cuts, they could theoritically sign one big free agent this year...

I'd rather have Dansby over Peppers...but I think both may be over rated.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Check out this article on the Redskins personnel and switching to 3-4:
http://billythedistinguishedgentlemen.blogspot.com/

Posted by: b145579 | March 2, 2010 11:11 AM

Good article. He didn't even mention that Alexander is going to play some OLB. Didn't mention Jarmon either.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Ben Hamilton and Stephen Neal would be perfect for the RG position.. figure at least one gets signed in the first week

Posted by: shally | March 2, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Also, signing TO for 1 or two years for way less money and years than signing Peppers, Sproeles, still allows the Redskins to sign the O-Liners we definitely need.

I am in the camp of not signing any of the top QB's available. For, if all the other pieces are in place with Campbell we would be far ahead of the game than banking on a QB that might not even pan out.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Larry, count on T.O. going to Baltimore. They have a desparate need at WR and the Ravens have a strong enough locker room to house him. Nowhere else even makes sense.

No on Sproles.
No on Peppers.
Maybe on Dansby (if the price is right).

YES to building thru the draft.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Remember....Carter said he came to the REdskins because he didn't want to play standing up in the 3-4 that San Fran converted to....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

So....They will probably cut ARE and Andre Carter....I geuss with those cuts, they could theoritically sign one big free agent this year...

I'd rather have Dansby over Peppers...but I think both may be over rated.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:29 AM

Good one.

Cuts: ARE, Portis, Thomas, Betts

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

So....They will probably cut ARE and Andre Carter....I geuss with those cuts, they could theoritically sign one big free agent this year...

I'd rather have Dansby over Peppers...but I think both may be over rated.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

ARE absolutely, Carter, no way. He just had his best season ever and Haslett has already talked about how he's excited to work Carter into his 3-4 differently then he was used in SF. IMO Dansby and Sproles are our realistic targets. Both fill major needs, save draft picks, and are still young.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Remember....Carter said he came to the REdskins because he didn't want to play standing up in the 3-4 that San Fran converted to....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:32 AM

It's not that he didn't want to, It's that he couldn't and he was much younger then.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

If we can grab a start LT in FA, it effectively buys us another early round draft pick - and fills a big fat hole on the O line. It's worth a look.

Same with a good Guard. Not sure why we're signing Rabach again. He spent the entire season last year backed up 4 yards in the backfield.

Same with RT for that matter... I'm not sure Heyer is even worth keeping around for depth anymore.

And WHY are we even thinking about bringing Randy Thomas back? That guy hasn't finished a season in how long? Three years? He was great, but now is the time to move on. We have enough depth problems without having a three week starter on the roster again...

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I missed that JAck...I saw Haslett 2x speak and was waiting for him to comment on Carter....That would be interesting...He is not big enough to play 3-4 DE.....I guess they will may using more 4 man fronts than expected.....

..I think this is going to be a hybrid defense predicated to everyone who is on the field at the time strengths'......

...Someone else other than ARE still needs to be cut....Now that I think about it, they don't have to pay Sameuls this year either....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I can't help wondering about my own 40 time. In my prime I could polish off a forty in about fifteen minutes, but it's been so long that I'm probably way out of shape.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 2, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse
Come on, Nate, you could down a 40 ouncer in less than 15 minutes. That must have been a misprint. I'm sure you meant 15 seconds.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 2, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

We can't cut Portis for the same reason we can't cut Campbell.

They are both the best options we have for their respected positions.

If we find Campbells replacement next year then maybe we find Portis' as well. With no salary cap, a players contract can't prevent the signing of other free agents; I've heard it argued that we can't attain depth due to large contracts preventing it.

Now if the salary cap comes back we can expect a rookie salary cap, meaning mo money for vets who've consistently performed when healthy; like Portis!

With no salary cap, we can't tell Snyder what to do with his money anymo'

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Out of the three big names (Dansby, Peppers and Sproles), Dansby should be the only one we break the bank for. He's on the right side of 30, is a terrific player and has experience playing LB in both 4-3 and 3-4 systems. At this point, if we want to switch to the 3-4, ILB is a crying need. I've heard people talk about plugging Macintosh, Blades and Fletcher there, but they are all way to small to take on guards for 60 minutes, which is what ILB's in the 3-4 scheme normally do. All teams would have to do is run it up the middle 20+ times and watch our defense break. Dansby would fill a major hole and might be the only FA worth a big paycheck this off season.

Hell no to Peppers. How many people have talked about his lack of drive or love of the game. Do you really think that if he gets a fat paycheck it's going to motivate him to produce double digit sacks. Not to mention that while he wants to switch to a 3-4 LB, he's never played the position in his career. Also he's 30, so you figure maybe 2-3 years left in the tank, tops. No thanks, let somebody else overpay for this guy.

Sproles would be a great addition for the right price. I live in SD and have seen him tear things up week after week when he's used effectively as a change of pace back or in the screen game. Plus, he's a great punt returner-something we desperatly need. However, it'd be silly to overpay for someone who will probably only touch the ball 10 times or so in a game and this draft has a TON of quality backs that can be found in the later rounds. Plus, that seems to be what Shanny does best.

In conclusion, agressively pursue Dansby, pass on Peppers and grab Sproles for the right price. And if you can pick up a quality G or T that can at least be a solid backup, more power to you. Go Skins!

Posted by: DCinSD | March 2, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Who are the people inside the organization who like Peppers? Fantasy league Snyder, hot dog vendors, janitors or what? I don't buy this stuff and am still hoping the times have changed.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 2, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure you are qualified to make this determination, but I will trust Shanny on this over you. At worse he is a good backup with game experience.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

You seriously think he would start on any other team? Di@khead

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I think my point is relevant. Remember that the NFL is a corporation, and corporations think the only thing that justifies their existance is to increase revenues. Expanding into Europe and Mexico hasn't really worked for them, and the American market is saturated. Now they are trying to squeeze the NFLPA. They are adding games to the NFL Network that not everybody gets. It's only a matter of time before the NFL on TV costs you more than your basic cable package.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

if your talking about requiring a premium subscription to view NFL games then I doubt it.

reducing exposure and the number people with access to your sport would be a terrible idea.

If I'm commissioner of NBA, NHL, or MLB, I dream of the day when NFL charges more for TV coverage.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | March 2, 2010 10:38 AM

I'm not saying it's a good idea. But there is enormous pressure to increase revenues. That's the problem with our corporate system. At some point you just need to be content with a steady revenue stream. But that's not the way these tycoons think. The NFL is the only sport that has preserved a modicum of competitive integrity, but opportunities are coming around for them to blow it big time.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

On switching to the 3-4, I am all for it as long as it helps the D-line push for line play 1 to 2 yards into the backfield.

Some of the best defenses I have seen, whether it was the 3-4 or a 4-3 is the number of plays/tackles made in the offensive backfield.

Without evev signing Peppers, the right scheming with our current personnel, I think can accomplish this with notable success.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

On switching to the 3-4, I am all for it as long as it helps the D-line push for line play 1 to 2 yards into the backfield.

Some of the best defenses I have seen, whether it was the 3-4 or a 4-3 is the number of plays/tackles made in the offensive backfield.

Without evev signing Peppers, the right scheming with our current personnel, I think can accomplish this with notable success.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Isnt Sproles a restricted free agent? Wouldnt the Redskins have to compensate San Diego with picks? Seems unrealistic considering the amount of picks the Redskins have.

Posted by: gallrick | March 2, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 11:41 AM

We can't cut Campbell because he still has value and is half the salary of portis.

If a playoff team can cut LT, let their explosive backup/kr/pr walk then certainly a 4-12 team can and will cut a washed up malcontent with a bloated contract. I'd even say that LT and Westbrook still have more left in their tank than CP.

Think team Vicc, not individual players.


Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I personally think the Redskins would be borderline stupid to not go after all 3 of the aforementioned FAs. That doesn't mean you offer them record-level contracts, but gauging interest for any impact FA is the proper course of action. Especially for 3 guys that could definitely be of use.

Darren Sproles is the real steal of the FA class, for the right price. He's a 27 year-old pure playmaker with low mileage on his legs that fills 2 desperate needs for this team: rotational speed back that can catch out of the backfield, and kick/punt returner. He won't command primary back-type money, and he would be an extreme upgrade for the Redskins for at least the next 3-4 years.

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

"...Someone else other than ARE still needs to be cut....Now that I think about it, they don't have to pay Sameuls this year either....

Posted by: 4thFloor"

My money is on ARE, Smoot, Thomas, Griffin, and the next in line would be Portis, unless he significantly raises his offseason dedication.

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

4th.

Samuels retires. ARE cut($). Thomas cut/retires. Betts cut after he returns from injury. Rock cut. Wynn not resigned. Carlos tendered and traded with any luck

Portis cut? Nasty concussion, WAY TOO MUCH salary, too many carries/hits. Probably...

Moving on.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 11:49 AM

He's looking for top 10 RB money. Why would he consider himself a situational or 3rd/kr/pr type RB. You would of course sign every above average FA for the right price. Problem is the player and agent are looking for a sucker, and that's been our role for the last 10 years.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

HYBRID. Get used to this word, as more than one Sunday "analyst" will be using it to describe the Redskin's defense next season.

Dansby? Sure. Sproles? Ok. Clark: Thanks, but No Thanks. Peppers? F THAT.

RI: How about a rumor rundown of RFA on the Redskins? Got a flurry last week... and then nada. What they do with JC's offer will have huge implications for the draft.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 2, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Can anyone let me know if Sproles is a restricted free agent??

Posted by: gallrick | March 2, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis has missed almost two full seasons in his career due to injury. To suggest that he is washed up is a bit premature.

If you subtract the 2 seasons Portis has missed, he'd be 26 going on 27. That is too young for a RB to have nothing left and I'm glad Shanahan realizes that Portis ain't finished!

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

If we sign Peppers I think we all know who is running the show.

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm not saying it's a good idea. But there is enormous pressure to increase revenues. That's the problem with our corporate system. At some point you just need to be content with a steady revenue stream. But that's not the way these tycoons think. The NFL is the only sport that has preserved a modicum of competitive integrity, but opportunities are coming around for them to blow it big time.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Even if the idea has been floated, I don't think it happens for 10+ yrs.

Moving the Jags to LA would generate more revenue for the league than charging a subscription fee would.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | March 2, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Isnt Sproles a restricted free agent? Wouldnt the Redskins have to compensate San Diego with picks? Seems unrealistic considering the amount of picks the Redskins have.

Posted by: gallrick | March 2, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

he wasn't tendered

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 11:52 AM

Yeah, forgot to add Griffin to my list. That bum shoulder ain't gonna get any better.. I'd at least take a look at Smoot at FS to see if he can make something happen there, if not, he might have to go as well...

Gotta get younger.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

For the people who advocate cutting Portis...Please look up the definition of guaranteed.

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

What they do with JC's offer will have huge implications for the draft.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 2, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse
MShanny said they would give the top tender to JC, about $3.2 mil. Any team wanting to outbid us would have to negotiate or give us 1st and 3rd.

On the list to be cut, I think TCollins will go also. He's scheduled to make $2.9 mil. NOt worth it, IMO.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 2, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

If you subtract the 2 seasons Portis has missed, he'd be 26 going on 27. That is too young for a RB to have nothing left and I'm glad Shanahan realizes that Portis ain't finished!

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 11:57 AM

Think about that for a second - he's missed two seasons because of injury.

Banged up!

Look at the number of carries, the declining production. It's not a good scenario. Remember how fast Stephan Alexander declined?

Westbrook cut. LT gone. Portis... Looks like a trend to me.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

If there were a willing trading partner, what would the #4 pick get us in next years draft?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | March 2, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Portis is more value on the team than off...

Thomas has to stay on until we find better options at gaurd....

And Smoot can now play Safety and Corner, so he is a value right now...until the youngsters come along....

Betts, Rock are def finished here....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 2, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Get Dansby.

Get the best left tackle available in free agency. Draft a tackle in the 1st round. Draft a guard or QB in the 2nd round.

Pick up a running back in the 4th round. Ben Tate or Gerhart if they fall. Otherwise McCluster or some other fast 3rd down back.


Avoid all free agents over the age of 29.
Avoid all free agents over the age of 29.
Avoid all ...

Especially avoid running backs in free agency. Draft fresh legs.

Posted by: lordtwang | March 2, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

For the people who advocate cutting Portis...Please look up the definition of guaranteed.

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 12:01 PM |

Doesn't mean he can't be cut. Just means if he does, he gets paid anyway...

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Taylor Mays runs a 4.24 40 yd dash.

Yessssss. That's assures me he will be picked before the Cowpukes get a chance at him!

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"Why would he consider himself a situational or 3rd/kr/pr type RB."

I didn't say situational, I said rotational. He's not a feature back, and he never will be. No team is going to sign him with the intent of giving him 20-25 carries a game. What he can/will be is a rotational back that sees ~10 carries a game, a few screens per game, in during 3rd down situations, and as a punt/kick returner. That's exactly what the Redskins need.

Sproles may be seeking top 10 RB money, but it's highly unlikely he'll get it. More than likely he'll receive a slight upgrade to the contract that Tampa Bay offered Derrick Ward, which was 4 years $17 million. That's right about where his value lies (Derrick Ward was the highest valued runner last year, and significantly outproduced Sproles heading into FA). For that price -- or even slightly higher, like 4 years $20 million -- I'd absolutely take Sproles. That's a modest boost to what Ladell Betts was making as a back-up.

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Actually, it's okay to pick up an older running back as a replacement for Portis, to add needed experience as a backup. For example, if we drop Portis, picking up Tomlinson is a good idea. But this only to add depth. Don't spend too much money on it.

Posted by: lordtwang | March 2, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I think we should target Chester Pitts for RG. He played in Houston and is younger then rest of the guards out there. His season was cut short last year because of a injury, but it's the first significant injury of his career. Kyle would be very familiar with him.

Posted by: b145579 | March 2, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't mean he can't be cut. Just means if he does, he gets paid anyway...

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Why the f would the Skins pay him $6 million to sit on his couch when they could pay him $6 million to carry the ball 10-15 times a game? Do you think he'll lose yards?

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

If you subtract the 2 seasons Portis has missed, he'd be 26 going on 27. That is too young for a RB to have nothing left and I'm glad Shanahan realizes that Portis ain't finished!

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 11:57 AM


LOL! Math doesn't work that way, dude...by that logic, I stopped playing basketball when I was 19...since I haven't played in the 11 years since then, I should still have 19 year-old legs!

Portis is what he is...a beat up scat-back that got years taken off his career because he was miscast as a bruising runner. In the end, he's the one with most of the bruises.

Not taking anything away from his total body of work--he's certainly the best overall RB we've had in the 17 years I've watched this team. But those days are over, mostly because he's got a ton of mileage on those legs (regardless of age). The likelihood that he'll ever be a Pro-Bowl caliber RB again are slim.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say situational, I said rotational.

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 12:07 PM

Same thing.

Once again...I would sign him, for the right price. He made 8 mil last year with the franchise tag, He's not looking for situational/rotational money. And yes when we signed ARE we needed a 3rd receiver/kr/pr and we paid him like a top WR. This would be a similar mistake.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Pro Portis talk?! On this blog? w/o my instigating??!! This blog never ceases to amaze me.

O line O line O line

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 2, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

CP will get cut if he continues to be a lazy malcontent. A 6 mill eaten salary is better than a guy who is hated in the locker room.

psp - Perfectly stated. Sproles would be a good pickup in that range.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 2, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

"Why the f would the Skins pay him $6 million to sit on his couch when they could pay him $6 million to carry the ball 10-15 times a game? Do you think he'll lose yards?

Posted by: Salinas1"

Because (1) they wouldn't have to pay him $6 million to play, they'd have to pay him closer to $8 million, meaning they save $2 million in actual dollars by cutting him and (2) because if a new salary cap is instilled following next season, his not-so-harmless guaranteed money turns into a lethal cap restriction that makes it very costly to release him.

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

...if it was good enough for Daddy...

http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/It+Was+Good+Enough+For+Daddy/2DkND1

stank.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 2, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Why the f would the Skins pay him $6 million to sit on his couch when they could pay him $6 million to carry the ball 10-15 times a game? Do you think he'll lose yards?

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 12:13 PM


Same reason why we cut Jansen even though he'd still get a ton of $...because he's outlived his usefulness. In the case of CP;

Paying big $ to sit on the bench

Because at home, Portis won't ruin your locker room. On the bench, he'll b*tch about his touches and run his mouth about other guys.

CP is done here. It's just a matter of whether Shanny puts him (and us) out of his misery.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

@ 12:21, that should read:

Paying big $ to sit on the bench

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Portis is what he is...a beat up scat-back that got years taken off his career because he was miscast as a bruising runner. In the end, he's the one with most of the bruises.

Not taking anything away from his total body of work--he's certainly the best overall RB we've had in the 17 years I've watched this team. But those days are over, mostly because he's got a ton of mileage on those legs (regardless of age). The likelihood that he'll ever be a Pro-Bowl caliber RB again are slim.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse
He's still the best rb we have. I'm all for cutting Betts. His problem is with his wheels. Too many injuries, I don't think he'll ever be a good backup again.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 2, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Why the f would the Skins pay him $6 million to sit on his couch when they could pay him $6 million to carry the ball 10-15 times a game? Do you think he'll lose yards?

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 12:13 PM

You are missing the beauty of an uncapped year. It's not to go crazy in FA, it's to cut the dead weight and bloated contracts.

This is a one time chance to get them off the books at no cost to the salary cap. If he plays next year, we are stuck with him and his contract moving forward. He will be cut, there is no doubt.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Dansby and/or Dunta Robinson
Don't see why they'd go after Peppers when they've already got a young stud in Orakpo. Unless they're cutting Carter and playing Peppers on the left side.

Also, if Suh or McCoy slides to #4 should they take 'em and scrap this 3-4 debate?

Posted by: skinswest | March 2, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

JR asked the question, who else? I say Antrel Rolle. He reportedly will not be tendered by the Cards, is only 27, was a pro-bowl alternate at FS last season, and has only been playing FS since 2008 when they switched him from CB. That would let Landry play at the LOS and potentially shore up the biggest weakness on the defensive side of the ball.

And "overpaying" is a relative term in an uncapped year. The rules haven't been written on how to address the contracts that carry over from this year, but I'm sure that there will be some allowances made along with the savings from getting rid of several players without a cap hit. Some people don't seem to grasp how that works. Guaranteed means that the Skins still have to pay them, but without a cap in place the remainder of the salary is paid this season without penalty other than the large checks that Snyder will have to write. Clean slate and give the new regime some young talent without sacrificing draft picks or "overpaying" in future years. Build through the draft in general, but all holes can't be filled in one draft and this year provides some unique opportunities.

Sign Sproles and Rolle and draft for line. Any others would be gravy.

Posted by: ELWOOD-BLUES | March 2, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, let's try this again:

Paying big money to sit at home IS GREATER THAN paying big money to sit on the bench

Not sure what's up with my keyboard today...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

In my book Dansby is in. Peppers and Sproles can go be overpaid somewhere else.

In addition to Dansby, I like the idea of signing Dunta Robinson and moving Carlos Rogers to free safety. I think this gives the team a lot more speed on the field and they can move Landry to his more natural strong safety position.

There is no better unrestricted free agent tackle out there, so I recommend re-signing Levi Jones. If they draft Okung, Jones plays right tackle. If for some reason the Redskins whiff on an offensive tackle early in the draft, Jones can play left tackle. They are already trying to re-sign Rabach. Chester Pitts is another guy I think the team should look at as a short term replacement for Randy Thomas.

And please do not forget that Hunter the Punter is a free agent and he was one of the few bright spots last year. Re-sign him before he becomes a free agent and bring in some young guy to compete during the preseason.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 2, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

'Plash?! Did somebody say 'Plash?! That's enough to draw me out of hibernation.
As is this gem, from Peter King....


"I smell a nice rivalry cooking.

On Friday night, the Saints' staff at the combine gathered in a private room at St. Elmo Steakhouse, an 108-year-old Indy landmark, for a final celebratory nod to the Super Bowl win over the Colts. This is a group that likes its wine, and likes to have fun.

At the restaurant, word passed that Dallas owner Jerry Jones would have his Dallas group in this exact room Saturday night for a team dinner. Jones had even phoned ahead, according to a waiter, to make sure a magnum of a wine he loved, Caymus Special Selection cabernet sauvignon, was ready to be served at dinner.

Sean Payton told the waiter he'd like to have that wine, too. The waiter told him: Sorry, sir. We have only one bottle left, and it's reserved for Mr. Jones.

Payton said he'd like to have the bottle nonetheless. I assume there was much angst on the part of the wait staff at that point. My God! Who do we piss off? One of the most powerful owners in the NFL, or the coach who's the toast of the NFL, the coach who just won the Super Bowl?

Here came the bottle of Caymus Special Selection, and the Saints' party drained it.

But drinking Jones' wine wasn't enough. Payton gave the waiter some instructions, took out his pen ... and, well, the Cowboys party found at the middle of their table the next evening an empty magnum of Caymus Special Selection cabernet sauvignon, with these words hand-written on the fancy label:

WHO DAT!
World Champions XLIV
Sean Payton"

Posted by: 4-12 | March 2, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Brownwood26,

They said Vick, despite aging, would still have his legs after prison, b/c he had avoided a couple years of NFL punishment.

Portis already has 2100+ carries and had he played those games he's missed he'd have eclipsed that 2000 carry mark 2 years ago.

If I'm wrong, I apologize, but aren't you of the crowd where the age of a running back in the NFL is determined more by carries versus time? If I'm correct, isn't Portis younger than he should be in terms of NFL punishment? He's sustained no significant injury to his lower body.

We'll see, after this season.

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Why the f would the Skins pay him $6 million to sit on his couch when they could pay him $6 million to carry the ball 10-15 times a game? Do you think he'll lose yards?

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 12:13 PM |

Look forward, not backwards. Time to unload contracts that are mistakes, get younger, faster and serious - all things that Portis is not.

If he were making realistic money, had a better attitude about conditioning, were a leader in the locker room and got the bone chips removed from his ankle, and not STILL suffering lingering effects from a season ending concussion (still wearing the glasses - notice?) then I'd be a lot more open to giving him a shot in the new system.

New coach, new GM, new rules.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

If CPo shows up. They won't cut him. If he doesn't, they will. Seems pretty simple.

Who on this blog or the team WASN'T a malcontent under the last coarch?! And it seems to me he was runnin' pretty hard when his helmet got the malachi crunch.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 2, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again, can't anyone think of why San Diego, a team that just released his star RB will let Sproles walk? First that move will leave only Michael Bennett as the lone RB on their roster, are you kidding? If the Bolts lets Sproles walk, then certainly something is wrong with Sproles that is being kept secret. Stay away from Sproles, the only name that have my vote of confidence is Carlos Dansby and he is going to the Giants.

Posted by: abxinc | March 2, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

But those days are over, mostly because he's got a ton of mileage on those legs (regardless of age)...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 2, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse


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"Portis already has 2100+ carries and had he played those games he's missed he'd have eclipsed that 2000 carry mark 2 years ago."

I was hoping to imply that by your math, you are suggesting that Portis' career would have been over at age 26. That sounds crazy to me.

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Until the Redskins go an offseason NOT linked to every big name FA, they will be linked so that agents can try and push the price.

Here's to hoping we don't sign any big names FAs.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | March 2, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't think we should pursue Peppars, but 30 at DE is not 30 at RB. Look at daniels for one good DEs play up to 15 years.

I think sproles may be looking for big $ and is an exciting player in his prime, but I wouldn't pay feature back $ for a "change of pace" back. Maybe he's more durable than I'm giving credit for.

Dansby seems like a good get, former teammate of Campbell and Rodgers outta auburn, but I don't see how one would allocate big$ to the D without sureing up the O line and RB Corp

I vote draft OT, RB, LB get some FA O line help. Seems like a deep OT class with a mix of upper body strength guys and explosive athletic guys. Pick one.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 2, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

...I'd be a lot more open to giving him a shot in the new system.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:27 PM

I'm with you, edvar, with a caveat. There's no one better than Mike Shanahan to make a decision on how Portis fits in. Whichever way Shanahan goes, I wouldn't second guess him. (Until I can do so with 20-20 hindsight in the middle of next year, of course).

Posted by: League-Source | March 2, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again, the Post's tea-leaves. Look, the GENIUS will screw up whatever the team does as it moves forward. They could draft Jesus himself and the GENIUS would manage to piss him off.

Posted by: atidwell | March 2, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"He made 8 mil last year with the franchise tag, He's not looking for situational/rotational money. And yes when we signed ARE we needed a 3rd receiver/kr/pr and we paid him like a top WR. This would be a similar mistake.

Posted by: Diesel44"

The "mistake" of signing ARE was only because he was a disappointment as a player. Had ARE been as advertised, the signing would have been fine. It's like saying signing Haynesworth was a mistake because Dana Stubblefield was a bust. Or that signing London Fletcher was a mistake because Jeremiah Trotter didn't work out. They're completely unrelated.

Sproles can look for his $8 million a year if he wants, but I'd bet my house that he doesn't find it. At most, he gets $5-6 million per year, likely closer to $5, and is happy with it. He was franchised at a price greatly above his value because SD was looking for a SB run before Tomlinson's legs completely gave out. He knows he's not getting $8 million per year, just like Cassel knew he wasn't getting $16 million per year, even though he was franchised by the Patriots (he received a contract at $10 million per).

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

key word for free agency: value

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 2, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

If I'm wrong, I apologize, but aren't you of the crowd where the age of a running back in the NFL is determined more by carries versus time? If I'm correct, isn't Portis younger than he should be in terms of NFL punishment? He's sustained no significant injury to his lower body.

We'll see, after this season.

Posted by: Vicc | March 2, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

He does have bone spurs in his ankles. They can be quite debilitating.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 2, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

You are missing the beauty of an uncapped year. It's not to go crazy in FA, it's to cut the dead weight and bloated contracts.

This is a one time chance to get them off the books at no cost to the salary cap. If he plays next year, we are stuck with him and his contract moving forward. He will be cut, there is no doubt.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Look forward, not backwards. Time to unload contracts that are mistakes, get younger, faster and serious - all things that Portis is not.

If he were making realistic money, had a better attitude about conditioning, were a leader in the locker room and got the bone chips removed from his ankle, and not STILL suffering lingering effects from a season ending concussion (still wearing the glasses - notice?) then I'd be a lot more open to giving him a shot in the new system.

New coach, new GM, new rules.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

You both are missing the major point here, its the fact that the money is GUARANTEED! Meaning we have to pay him no matter what, do you really think Snyder just wants to cut a guy who has carried this offense for 5 years and have to pay him 11 million guaranteed?

At the very least he will be at camp, if he looks done in camp and preseason then maybe, just maybe, he gets cut but even then, CP as your 3rd back when you have to pay him anyway makes more sense. At the very least he is still great in blitz pickup and a reliable ball carrier for 3 to 4 yards a click.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Isnt Sproles a restricted free agent? Wouldnt the Redskins have to compensate San Diego with picks? Seems unrealistic considering the amount of picks the Redskins have.

Posted by: gallrick | March 2, 2010 11:47 AM

He's due a signing bonus the Chargers don't want to pay.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

How about an OL in the first round. Blount from Oregon in the second round? New here and just wanted to see if that makes sense to anyone.

Posted by: ksykes3 | March 2, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

YOU would say LT and Westbrook have more in the tank because YOU don't like CP. You disregard 3 yrs of age with LT, and +1 concussion for Westbrook. Also Westbrook is a system specific player, IMO

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 2, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of being labeled as the organization players come to in order to get "paid" and the proceed to underperformed. Having said that, the only free agent worth pursuing is Dansby. As he has 3-4 experience and will provide depth to a weak and aging linebacker core.

Posted by: atlfan2001 | March 2, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, edvar, with a caveat. There's no one better than Mike Shanahan to make a decision on how Portis fits in. Whichever way Shanahan goes, I wouldn't second guess him. (Until I can do so with 20-20 hindsight in the middle of next year, of course).

Posted by: League-Source | March

Agreed.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

too high for blount at #36, there are too many better backs that will be there, blount projected as a 3rd rounder at best.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't seem like there are any tackles worth getting in FA. Might be someone on a bench somewhere that is worth taking a chance on bringing over.

The guards are a bit more interesting and we certainly could use an upgrade. BMW is not a lock, Reinhart is probably done. No one liked Wil Montgomery that much. R Thomas may want to play, but mgmt has to let him go, he's an all time lock to get injured.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 2, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Why the f would the Skins pay him $6 million to sit on his couch when they could pay him $6 million to carry the ball 10-15 times a game? Do you think he'll lose yards?

Posted by: Salinas1 | March 2, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse
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Same reason they pay Zorn $3 mil to coach the Ravens QBs.

If your anchor gets stuck in a reef, it doesn't matter if it's platinum plated uranium, you gotta cut that anchor if you wanna sail.

But see, the fallacy is not in cutting the platinum plated uranium anchor, but in buying the dam thing in the first place.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 2, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

He does have bone spurs in his ankles. They can be quite debilitating.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 2, 2010 12:41 PM

Not to mention the screws he has loose in his head. It may not happen this Friday, but he will not be on the 53 man roster.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm not buying the bone spurs thing. I think that was just to keep him off the field.

..we'll see, though.

ARE's disappointment at Punt Return only, I think. He was never more than a 3 receiver, was he?

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 2, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Isnt Sproles a restricted free agent? Wouldnt the Redskins have to compensate San Diego with picks? Seems unrealistic considering the amount of picks the Redskins have.

Posted by: gallrick | March 2, 2010 11:47 AM

He's due a signing bonus the Chargers don't want to pay.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm no he's not, he a RFA they have decided not to tender so he hits the open market.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I DO see the point of unloading heavy contracts, though. And if that's the direction the team takes - more power.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 2, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I like Sproles and I think he's a guy Shanahan would use brilliantly.

But he's going to want a lot of coin and didn't do well vs our NFC East opponents last year, even while playing for a very good offense. He's a terror on returns, not sure if he'll push to return less and be an RB more.

If the price was right, get Sproles. But the price isn't going to be right.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 2, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 12:43 PM

I can't help you, if you're not willing to learn.

I'll use your word GUARANTEED. If we don't cut him now we are GUARANTEED to be stuck with him and his contract moving forward. If we cut him now there are no salary cap ramifications. This is the mulligan this team needs to purge themselves of all the bad long-term contracts and underperforming players. I GUARANTEE he is cut.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again, can't anyone think of why San Diego, a team that just released his star RB will let Sproles walk? First that move will leave only Michael Bennett as the lone RB on their roster, are you kidding? If the Bolts lets Sproles walk, then certainly something is wrong with Sproles that is being kept secret. Stay away from Sproles, the only name that have my vote of confidence is Carlos Dansby and he is going to the Giants.

Posted by: abxinc | March 2, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I guarentee Sproles loses a step in the next year or two. Too bad he'll be looking for a nice 5 year contract. Once he starts getting more carries he'll break down and he'll break down quickly. I would stay away from Sproles and draft a speedy back instead.

Don't reach, wait for a guy to fall:

In the 2nd look for:
C.J. Spiller (you never know)
Ryan Mathews (could happen)
Jahvid Best (definite possibility)

4th
Montario Hardesty (probably a great fit for us)
Dexter McCluster(The guy is football fast, to hell with his 40 time)
Joe McNight

7th
Brandon James
LeMarcus Coker

Undrafted
Michael Smith

I know people want to take offensive line with every pick but I think with the Shanahan system and the depth of talent in the draft we can probably fill out the right side of the line with undrafted guys, UFAs, late rounders or even some in house guys. We need a left tackle and I hope we land Okung or at least Bulaga. We also need to land at least one good guard. Outside of that I wouldn't be mad if we used picks on LBs, FS, and a couple running backs. I'd love to have 2 running backs like Jahvid Best and LeGarret Blount. What if Brandon Spikes falls to the 4th round? Sean Lee could fall to the 5th. Look for guys to fall and get the best value in a position of need.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 2, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Value.
I couldn't agree more.

With the dysfunction on offense and switching to a hybrid 3-4, 4-3 defense we are restructuring, we might as well be rebuilding too.

The best thing might be to stockpile draft picks, because we're 2-3 seasons away from fielding a consistently above average team.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | March 2, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

If the price was right, get Sproles. But the price isn't going to be right.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 2, 2010 12:53 PM |

Yup.

I think Sproles is the kind of guy you hope to get lucky with on the second (or third this year) day of the draft rather than the kind of guy you pay big money to sign.

Posted by: edvar | March 2, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

No to Peppers

Yes to Dansby

Sproles is definitely worth a look, although I feel like we could get a similar player late in the draft..but then again we could use a 4th rounder on another lineman instead if we did get Sproles.

Also, Yes to Antrel Rolle once he hits the market. And your Defense is almost set.

If rams take bradford, draft Okung..If we pick up a starting guard in free agency, maybe take a look at a nose tackle type like Terrence Cody instead of reacing for another OLinemen, or maybe take the Olinemen if he is worthy of the pick

Round 4-5: Interior lineman

Posted by: jeffco01 | March 2, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 12:43 PM

I can't help you, if you're not willing to learn.

I'll use your word GUARANTEED. If we don't cut him now we are GUARANTEED to be stuck with him and his contract moving forward. If we cut him now there are no salary cap ramifications. This is the mulligan this team needs to purge themselves of all the bad long-term contracts and underperforming players. I GUARANTEE he is cut.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse
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Im in the camp for cutting Portis now if for nothing other than making an example of him, but for all practical cap purposes, it does not matter if we cut Portis now or later. This is the payout year. The only way that changes is if we renegotiate his contract (god forbid). THEN we could be pushing back the payout year and no doubt throwing more cheddar his way.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 2, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

No comment on Antrel Rolle post?

Posted by: ELWOOD-BLUES | March 2, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

The "mistake" of signing ARE was only because he was a disappointment as a player. Had ARE been as advertised, the signing would have been fine

psp-

The mistake and the comparison being made is that they paid ARE like a #1 WR and he was never more than a 3rd/kr/pr. You can't make that mistake with Sproles. If the money is right, OK...if not let some other team over pay a situational/positional player.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

There are 19 free agent QB's. Anyone think one of these guys would be worth signing? (Patrick Ramsey had a couple of years as #2 with Shanahan in Denver. Maybe he gets Collins' job?)

Batch, Charlie ------ UFA
Boller, Kyle ------ UFA
Brunell, Mark ------ UFA
Campbell, Jason ------ RFA
Carr, David ------ UFA
Clemens, Kellen ------ RFA
Croyle, Brodie ------ RFA
Culpepper, Daunte ------ UFA
Feeley, A.J. ------ UFA
Frye, Charlie ------ RFA
Grossman, Rex ------ UFA
Hamdan, Gibran ------ RFA
Jackson, Tarvaris ------ RFA
Losman, J.P. ------ RFA
McCown, Josh ------ UFA
Orton, Kyle ------ RFA
Pennington, Chad ------ UFA
Ramsey, Patrick ------ UFA
Redman, Chris ------ UFA
St. Pierre, Brian ------ UFA
Whitehurst, Charlie ------ RFA

Posted by: League-Source | March 2, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ELWOOD-BLUES | March 2, 2010 1:01 PM

Sorry we didn't give you enough attention.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 2, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

In order to pry Evans away, an interested suitor must either reach a trade agreement with the Saints, or offer up a contract to Any takers on Jahri?
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There are several teams in need of some major help on the offensive line, and the talent on the unrestricted free agent list is not anything fantastic. Amongst the 212 players who would have been hitting that list, but instead are restricted free agents, is guard Jahri Evans, upon whom the New Orleans Saints have placed the high RFA tender.

In order to pry Evans away, an interested suitor must either reach a trade agreement with the Saints, or offer up a contract to Evans that is too high for them to feasibly match; if this second outcome occurs, the new team must give the Saints a first and third round draft pick. Still, it's possible that a team desperate enough for help on the O-line would explore this option.
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No guard is worth a first AND a third round pick. With a few exceptions, the highest you'll usually see guards drafted is late first-early second.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 2, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

do you really think Snyder just wants to cut a guy who has carried this offense for 5 years and have to pay him 11 million guaranteed?

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 12:43 PM

This isn't really Snyder's decision, is it?

Posted by: League-Source | March 2, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"for all practical cap purposes, it does not matter if we cut Portis now or later. This is the payout year. The only way that changes is if we renegotiate his contract (god forbid). THEN we could be pushing back the payout year and no doubt throwing more cheddar his way.

Posted by: mattsoundworld"

His contract was bloated with a massive original signing bonus. It saves cap space on the front end of the contract (i.e. the 2008-2009 season), but prorates the rest of it throughout the rest of the contract. In pure cap dollars (not actual dollars, which have already been payed out) he's owed $5 million per season for the rest of his deal. If he's cut in 2011, the rest of the bonus gets accelerated to the current year (I believe he's signed through 2012) which would make it a $10 million cap hit for his release in 2011.

That's the justification for his release now, despite his guaranteed contract.

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4949186

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

that was exactly what I said, they decided not to tender him, had nothing to do with a signing bonus.

And if ya'll think Snyder has no say in whether he has to just eat $11 million or not go try and tell the owner of your company that you want to make that kind of a decision and see what he says. Shanny knows he stuck with Portis for a year, that's why he is saying "he's our running back". He can still be cut at the end of the year next year with no ramifications assuming a new CBA hasn't been agreed to by then.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 2, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"In pure cap dollars (not actual dollars, which have already been payed out) he's owed $5 million per season for the rest of his deal."

Meaning $5 million per season for just the signing bonus alone. His actual cap figure would be $5 million per season (prorated signing bonus) + base salary + incentive/workout bonuses + option bonuses. If there had been a cap this year, his cap figure would have been over $12 million ($7+ million base salary, 6 of which is guaranteed, plus the $5 million signing bonus). That $12 million will climb in 2011 and yet again in 2012. So either the team cuts him now and eats his $6 million salary, or they take the cap hit in 2011 for $10 million, or they keep him on the roster through 2012 at around the $12-15 million cap range.

Posted by: psps23 | March 2, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4949186

Posted by: skinfanman | March 2, 2010 1:09 PM |

The main part of the stroy:

If the Chargers wanted to retain Sproles' rights, they would have had to tender him with an offer of nearly $7.3 million for the coming season by March 4. But San Diego deemed that price too high, giving its running back the chance to test free agency. San Diego still would like to re-sign him, and it could, but it will face competition from other teams.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 2, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm not buying the bone spurs thing. I think that was just to keep him off the field.

..we'll see, though.

ARE's disappointment at Punt Return only, I think. He was never more than a 3 receiver, was he?

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 2, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think the bone spurs kept him off the field, although maybe in practice. I've had them, and they are painful.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 2, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 2, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't "hate" Portis, I hate Vinny and Dan for making him the highest paid RB in NFL history. This is why he will be cut.

$6.43 million of Portis' 2010 base salary is guaranteed.

2010: $7.1905 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus),

2011: $8.254 million,

2012-2013: $8.5 million, 2014: Free Agent

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 2, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I think we should look to cut ARE, Griffin, Thomas, Smoot, and 2/3 of our RB core if not all three.

Go after Dansby, Kyle Vanden Bosch, tender Rogers, try to reel in either Rolle or Dunta Robinson, and try to stopgap the RG position with Chester Pitts or Stephen Neal.

Draft Okung or Anthony Davis at 4, take LeFever in Round 2, and take rb in round 4 like joe mcknight. If Bradford goes #1 to the Rams, it shouldn't even be a question. Clausen's a bum.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | March 2, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I hear shanny wants to sign and loves tomlinson

Peppers won't come here he wants to win a championship now

dansby maybe because of experince in a 3-4 D

sproles I don't think so it would be cheaper to draft a trindon holiday or Jacoby ford as return man you would be crazy to think sproles could be the feature back

Dunta Robinson cb texans is who I think they need to sign

maybe if the price is don't laugh Darren sharper

Posted by: Superman321 | March 2, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Davis is fat, lazy and looked awkward at the combine.. he is NOT worth the #4 overall pick. Okung may or may not be worth it, but he is a far better risk.
Bulaga would be a great pick around 8-10.Campbell has the highest boom/bust risk of any lineman. he looks like superman but plays poorly. Pass on him.

i still think we take Bradford at 4, if he is still there and then look for Brown, Saffold or Ducasse at the top of round 2...

Posted by: shally | March 2, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Sign Peppers, Adalius Thomas, and Daunta Robinson for the defense.

Sign Clifton and work a deal with the Rams for Alex Barron for the offense.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 2, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Sign Peppers, Adalius Thomas, and Daunta Robinson for the defense.

Sign Clifton and work a deal with the Rams for Alex Barron for the offense.

Posted by: coparker5 | March 2, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I only want to hear out of Redskins park that we intend to draft fat, angry, and somewhat dangerous offensive lineman with our first two picks. I've read that our starting offensive line, as it stands now, is Dockery, Rabach, me, a traffic cone, and one of the guys that flags traffic into Fed Ex. SuperSkin is the first alternate in the event that the traffic cone gets knocked over.

I vote against (not that my vote means jack) Peppers, Sproles, and Dansby. Seems like we can draft a decent RB and LB in the later rounds of the draft. Peppers is not needed.

Lastly, Portis must be cut.

Posted by: zgg0300 | March 2, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Any word on Adalius Thomas? Him and the Pats are supposed to be going through a divorce, and he can still be an impact player. They just didn't use him last year.

Posted by: A_o_C57 | March 2, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

If Peppers wasn't good enough for Carolina to make a real effort to re-sign, what makes you think he would excell in DC? This has the look of another overpayment on a used-to-be pro-bowler. What about Antrelle Rolle? Will he not be available? Does anyone remember the breakdowns at free-safety last year? Other than a good, young, free-safety, DC needs to be looking for quality offensive linemen. Just my opinion.....I could be wrong.

Posted by: prestoj | March 2, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Is there any chance we get Peppers & trade Andre Carter??

I just remember how he wanted to come here so he could be a DE & he doesn't really fit the mold of a 3-4 DE...

Posted by: tony325 | March 2, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I definitely think getting Dansby is a good move, for pretty much any team really, but especially if Washington is converting to a 3-4 it will help to have some one who knows and has excelled in that type of defense. I think the secondary needs help too though, so Dunta Robinson should be a prime target or Bodden should he become available. I don't know that there's a huge need for Sproles, but I think he could help. I love Peppers, but he's a bigger headache than he's worth for Washington

Posted by: bclancy | March 2, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

He will be cut, there is no doubt.

Posted by: Diesel44 |

D44- I agree - hate to see CP go but if you have to cut him, and I think you do, then now is the time. I love his heart, just wish he had more in the offseason.

Dansby maybe. LT one year at most. See what he has. No Dunta. Chester Pitts maybe but no more than a two year deal.

Posted by: ElYeah | March 2, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Can we please focuss on three guys in free agency......Dunta Robinson, Karlos Dansby, and Antrel Rolle....at least the two guys in the secondary......God I hope we can land those three guys and ill be siked no matter what they do to screw up the draft....redskin park should be burned to the ground if we draft a damn QB with our first pick!!!! What is anyone elses thoughts on that?

Posted by: bdarr44 | March 2, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

FORGET JULIUS PEPPERS! Does the name Jason Taylor ring any bells?

Posted by: pd2710 | March 2, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

FORGET JULIUS PEPPERS! Does the name Jason Taylor ring any bells? We've already got plenty of ageing defensive linemen - Wynn, Griffin, Daniels and Carter not far behind

Posted by: pd2710 | March 2, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Orlando Pace...washed up....was a big name....GUESS who's coming to Ashburn??? Past performance is the best indicator of future results.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | March 2, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

JR asked the question, who else? I say Antrel Rolle. He reportedly will not be tendered by the Cards, is only 27, was a pro-bowl alternate at FS last season, and has only been playing FS since 2008 when they switched him from CB. That would let Landry play at the LOS and potentially shore up the biggest weakness on the defensive side of the ball.

I am on this bandwagon for sure. Free Agent should start with Rolle.

Posted by: melineum | March 4, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

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