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Getting to the heart of the matter on blocking schemes

There seems to be some confusion among Insider readers about the Redskins' blocking schemes under former head coach Jim Zorn, the stuff new Coach Mike Shanahan plans to run in the 2010 season and how recently signed offensive lineman Artis Hicks, and other potential newcomers, will fare in Shanahan's blocking strategy.

The Redskins were, for the most part, a power run team during Joe Gibbs's two stints with the franchise, though not as much as in his return, coaches and players say. But there also were elements of zone blocking in what Gibbs did. And last season, Washington primarily was a zone blocking team. One former assistant coach estimated the Redskins zone blocked about 90 percent of the time.

Shanahan is known for his belief in the zone game. He also is considered one of the NFL's most innovative coaches on offense. Perhaps Washington will be a much better zone blocking team under Shanahan because, well, he's Shanahan. But there are only so many ways to block certain plays, several NFL assistant coaches said recently.

It does not appear the Redskins are targeting offensive linemen who have primarily worked in zone schemes. Hicks said Minnesota was 50-50 in terms of zone and power plays, and he's "comfortable no matter what they want to do. We did a lot of zone and a lot of downhill stuff [in Minnesota]. It really doesn't matter to me."

And the reality it is, most teams incorporate zone elements while running so-called power plays. You have to mix it up in today's game.

"Ever since I've been with Washington, ever since I've been in the league, even with Baltimore, I think 99 percent of the teams are zone blocking," center Casey Rabach said in a phone interview the other day. "I mean, yeah, you have some power plays where you pull a guard and you block back, and it's not so much zone blocking. But every run play has a zone element to it. It's not really that big.

"The outside stretch play can only be blocked so many ways. The inside zone play can only be blocked so many ways. It's not a big difference of what we've done in the past. The biggest difference that Shanahan's offensive lines have done in the past, compared to what we probably did, was the cut blocking. It eliminates backside defenders and backside pursuit. And, you know, play calling is going to be different. I think those are the biggest factors."

By Jason Reid  |  March 9, 2010; 2:33 PM ET
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Comments

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles....

...Subteranian Turtle Outfits.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 9, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The heart of the matter is we need actual talent on the OL, not just big guys.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | March 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

There seems to be some confusion among Insider readers about the Redskins' blocking schemes under former head coach Jim Zorn, the stuff new Coach Mike Shanahan plans to run in the 2010 season

By: JReid

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I think we all know that Portis converted Gibbs into Zone Blocking in year 3 of Gibbs 2.0......

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 9, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Derek Anderson was just cut by the Browns, I would want him over Grossman as a depth QB.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"The biggest difference that Shanahan's offensive lines have done in the past, compared to what we probably did, was the cut blocking. It eliminates backside defenders and backside pursuit."

Don't forget chop blocking also. It may be illegal but it is hard to detect. That is why it is important to sign Lilja. Who would know more about chop blocking than "Lil Ninja"?

Posted by: FartezDudmore | March 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

And, you know, play calling is going to be different. I think those are the biggest factors. - Rabach

Amen to that, can't wait to see some different play calling!

Posted by: stevek20147 | March 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

"Any coach who has Terrell Owens on the roster. Any coach who had Keyshawn Johnson on the roster, which includes Parcells and Gruden."


Owens' antics in San Fran occured under Mariucci, not Seifert, and in Dallas occured under Phillips, not Parcells.

Again: a strong coach like Shanahan can get respect and self-control out of guys that others can't.

You think Schottenhiemer would let CP blow off practice the way Zorn did?

Doubt it.

Do you think R Ryan keeps things straight with B Edwards in jetsland?

Yes.

K Johnson's antics in Tampa are why a strong-willed coach and front office put him out: and that's my point.

And two examples like Owens and Johnson in a league of 1,058 players really aren't enough of a sample to say that malcontents can't be corraled by strong coaches.

Look at how M Lewis keeps things in check with C Johnson in Vincy, for example, or Belichek's control of Moss in NE example that you failed to mention.

Bring on Bryant, and if he can't get his stuff straight, send him packing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Yes, more cut blocking is what we need. Shanny had some nasty-ass o-line players in Denver.

Posted by: MNSkinsFan | March 9, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Cindy if you're listening, what's happening with Larry Foote? Are they negotiating or is he headed for airport for a phoenix bound flight?

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I recall the RamSkin era with George Allen, when he brought in a bunch of his former Ram players ... the 'over the hill gang'.

If his son Bruce brings in a bunch of folks from his former team, we'll become the BucSkins.

Not bad, eh

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 2:09 PM
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zcezcest...if you remember the "RamSkins" its good to know nursing homes are wired.

And, by the way, I believe "RamSkins" is now a condom brand.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I never thought the scheme was the problem last year--injuries and ineptitude across the O-line were the problem.

And thankfully, Allen and Shanny appear interested in doing what Vinny refused to do--fix the O-line.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 9, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Zone blocking, schmone blocking.

We have better coaching.

What we need is better talent.

Those two things win football games.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 9, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Derek Anderson was just cut by the Browns, I would want him over Grossman as a depth QB.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 2:47 PM

I'm sure the Skins could pick up Anderson for a prayer, which is what we would need, and a lot of them.

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles....

...Subteranian Turtle Outfits.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 9, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse
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Tactical turtle-necks solve everything

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

From the wikipedias:

" ... The linemen of some teams that use zone blocking schemes have been criticized for their penchant for cut blocking the knees of defenders, sometimes away from the play. Cut blocks are illegal in the open field and when a defensive player is engaged by another offensive player. Legal cut blocks should be aimed at the opposing player's waist or hip. Although some consider the technique unsportsmanlike because of the risk of serious injury, when taught and applied correctly it is a very effective tactic. In fact, some defensive players employ the technique to eliminate blockers so other defenders can make the tackle. ..."

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"The biggest difference that Shanahan's offensive lines have done in the past, compared to what we probably did, was the cut blocking."


Cut-blocking.

Can't say I agree with that.

But it looks like it'll be a staple.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 9, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"The biggest difference that Shanahan's offensive lines have done in the past,"

The biggest difference was the talent.

Hence the Big Board listing Okung at #1.

Book it.

Posted by: psps23 | March 9, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The heart of the matter is that Reid manages to write 500 words about zone and power blocking schemes without ever bothering to define them for the reader. Back to journalism 101, my friend.

Posted by: boozyb | March 9, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Derek Anderson was just cut by the Browns, I would want him over Grossman as a depth QB.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 2:47 PM

What a sad state this FA QB class is in.

Posted by: TWISI | March 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"The outside stretch play can only be blocked so many ways. The inside zone play can only be blocked so many ways."

1. The NFL way - zone/power
2. The Spurrier way - fade/slice
3. The Zorn way - turnstile/swinging gate

I think we've got em all covered in Snydely's tenure!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The problem was a lack of depth/ preperation and clearly dedication. This team had so many injuries, we didn't have much talent behind our starters on the oline, but anywhere for that matter and the team really was not prepared for games week in and weeks out.

I liked zorn, and think that in a different situation he could have become a decent Coach. However, Clinton thought otherwise and pretty much destoryed his credibility with the team early by calling him out and going to Danny Boy in his 1st year. With that, the team realized Zorn was a push over and could be manipulated... hence the lack of dedication to practice and the team...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

More from the wikipedias:

"... In a zone blocking scheme, fleet-footedness and athletic ability trump size as desirable qualities in offensive linemen. Coordination and technique matter more than muscle in implementing a successful scheme because defensive linemen are often double-teamed at the point of attack. Creating movement on the defensive line is more important than opening a specific hole in the defense. ..."

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest...if you remember the "RamSkins" its good to know nursing homes are wired.

And, by the way, I believe "RamSkins" is now a condom brand.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

Thanks GM. I need all the wires I can get at this age. The RamSkins condoms, only for hotties like Betty White

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I'd bring in Anderson for a look see...can't hurt...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

And, you know, play calling is going to be different. I think those are the biggest factors. - Rabach

Amen to that, can't wait to see some different play calling!

Posted by: stevek20147 | March 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Run Left

Run Left

Crap 3rd and long. Uhh 7 step drop.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | March 9, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Cindy if you're listening, what's happening with Larry Foote? Are they negotiating or is he headed for airport for a phoenix bound flight?

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 2:53 PM

Phoenix won't let him leave until a contract is signed.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 9, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Owens' antics in San Fran occured under Mariucci, not Seifert, and in Dallas occured under Phillips, not Parcells.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 9, 2010 2:51 PM |

From Wiki: Terrell Owens was questioned by ESPN about what he learned during his one-season experience with former head coach Bill Parcells. T.O. was reported to have said, "Nothing, really."

In case you didn't know, it helps to have facts straight when you want to argue a position.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | March 9, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Derek Anderson was just cut by the Browns, I would want him over Grossman as a depth QB.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 2:47 PM

What a sad state this FA QB class is in.

Posted by: TWISI | March 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, but at least Anderson has been to the Pro Bowl, something nobody in Washington can say since Brad Johnson left town. Well Brunel could say it, but by the time he was here he meant the original pro bowl....

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

good point(s)..
So is it wiser to trade a 1st round pick for an established NFL star versus the 50/50 crap shoot of a college player?
Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

That's hard to answer (or as my boss like to answer these sorts of questions - Yes and No). My thought is that there are three things to consider.

1) What position. For a QB, since it takes a number of years (generally) to tell if a drafted QB is worth the pick, I'd say yes. By the time they are good enough to really tell, you are looking to give them a new contract anyways so I don't know if you would be saving money via drafting. Other positions develop faster. I would have had no problem whatsoever trading a #1 for Brees when he left SD (or Warner when he left STL for that matter).

2) The teams ability to evaluate talent. Some teams are really good at drafting. Some are really good at seeing how current players fit into what you are trying to do. (Then there is Vinny.) Play to your strength.

3) How good the team is. This is the "filling the key position to compete" scenario. If you believe you are close to playoff caliber, opt for a few key FAs to eliminate development time.

None of that means you give up drafting. Likewise, #3 should not be the only time you pursue FA. The goal is to get the best players you can afford, by any means necessary.

Posted by: amaranthpa | March 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"I'd bring in Anderson for a look see...can't hurt..."

Sure.

When you're 4-12 and have had consecutive bottom finishes in your division, you'd be a fool not to take a look at guys.

How can we be so arrogant?

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | March 9, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I am officially joining your posse Big foot. BTW, you weren't in the movie "HOODLUM" were you?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

From the nfl.com site:

Jason La Canfora

Free-agent LB Foote wants deal similar to Fujita’s
Posted: March 9th, 2010

Free-agent LB Larry Foote is seeking a deal that exceeds Scott Fujita’s contract, according to a league source.

Foote, a veteran with lots of 3-4 experience, is being sought by several teams playing that scheme. Arizona, Washington and Pittsburgh are in the hunt, and according to a source familiar with the process, Foote is hoping to exceed Fujita’s deal with the Browns, which includes $8 million guaranteed.

Foote spent last season with the Lions after playing the previous seven seasons for the Steelers.

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I'd bring in Anderson for a look see...can't hurt...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse
_______________________________________

Wouldn't you want a Shanny system QB that will assist in installing the offense with JC & future QB??

Posted by: tony325 | March 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Question:

Do we trade London Fletcher to the Saints for their 2nd round pick?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you want a Shanny system QB that will assist in installing the offense with JC & future QB??

Posted by: tony325 | March 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse
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I want a billion dollars and a different contestant for Miss Russia every night, but back in reality land, I'm happy with my fiance, my day job, and the best FA backup on the market.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 9, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Larry Foote, did this guy miss his flight or something. I thought he was coming in for a meeting yesterday. I am beginning to wonder if the WaPo can produce any relevant info. Most the good stuff on here comes for sources or fellow bloggers. Get it together Post, you are a disappointment.

Posted by: forever8-8 | March 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

From Wiki: Terrell Owens was questioned by ESPN about what he learned during his one-season experience with former head coach Bill Parcells. T.O. was reported to have said, "Nothing, really."

In case you didn't know, it helps to have facts straight when you want to argue a position.


You are aware that nothing in your clip and paste job supports your claim that somehow TO behaved in way a that caused Parcells to confront him.

TO learned nothing from Parcells, and we've learned nothing from your out of context example.

And that's the argument.

Fartz, your line of thinking stinks.

Perhaps you should look up "Reading Comprehension Strategies" for clueless illiterates next time.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Question:

Do we trade London Fletcher to the Saints for their 2nd round pick?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse
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I hope there are like 8 'yes'es by the time I get to post this

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I'd be cool with Derek Anderson. I think he had his own stone handed receivers that made him look worse than what he was. He's not a potential savior, but he could fill the role nicely while some pup on the bench matures. I'd take Grossman, too. It doesn't have to be an either/or proposition. Grossman knows the offense and can kind of be like another coach on the field.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

In case you didn't know, it helps to have facts straight when you want to argue a position.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | March 9, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

You haven't been around here much? Never stops anyone else....

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Question:

Do we trade London Fletcher to the Saints for their 2nd round pick?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:18 PM

Yes, but why would the saints do it, they have a younger version of Fletch...Vilma.

Posted by: Diesel44 | March 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

@matt:

[in betht Daffy Duck voice] "I would like..I would like?! I would like a trip to EUROPE!"

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

From the nfl.com site:

Jason La Canfora

Free-agent LB Foote wants deal similar to Fujita’s
Posted: March 9th, 2010

Free-agent LB Larry Foote is seeking a deal that exceeds Scott Fujita’s contract, according to a league source.

Foote, a veteran with lots of 3-4 experience, is being sought by several teams playing that scheme. Arizona, Washington and Pittsburgh are in the hunt, and according to a source familiar with the process, Foote is hoping to exceed Fujita’s deal with the Browns, which includes $8 million guaranteed.

Foote spent last season with the Lions after playing the previous seven seasons for the Steelers.

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 3:14 PM

As JZ would say..On to the next one.

Posted by: TWISI | March 9, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Fletcher and GG are peas in a pod. Sending Fletcher to the Saints is a great fit for a great player -- gives him a chance to play in big games. They just lost Fujita to FA.

Getting a pick in return helps us on the road to our future. Because I'm pretty sure the future is 2011 or 2012 for this team.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

You haven't been around here much? Never stops anyone else....

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah. Ding, ding, ding. Take it from someone who resembles that remark!!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Fletch to the saints for Pierre Thomas, royalties from KKardash's backside, and a first, or this doesn't happen...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 9, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Parcells used to refer to TO as the player. It was pretty obvious he didn't like him and was widely speculated he was one of the main reasons Parcells quit coaching in Dallas.

Why the hell would the Saints trade a pick for an old London Fletcher when they already got Vilma? Posting just to I guess.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 9, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Fletch to the saints for Pierre Thomas, royalties from KKardash's backside, and a first, or this doesn't happen...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

Too bad they couldn't throw in Boldin and Pierce

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

lol, gl Pot: meet Kettle, right?

I admit I reach sometimes, but if I'm wrong I back off. I'm a gestalt guy, tho. And I do offer evidence in my reasoning. It's not my fault if folks choose to ignore it for their own personal reasons.

SJK, half of my posts here (besides the buffoonery) are questions anyway.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I hope there are like 8 'yes'es by the time I get to post this

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I would have been one of the Yes people if i thought this was really a possibility. Absolutely from our end this would be a steal. For them this would be dumb.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Esample: "Saints are going to give us a second rounder for Fletch?!?"

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Fletch doesnt fit into a 3-4 scheme but i still do not see any point trading away the best player on this team. The man is a beast and to trade him away takes away the defenses leader and on the field coach... you just cant do that.

We do need to draft his replacement because fletch isn't getting any younger and HB hasn't proven to be anything more than a spcial teams player who can come off the bench.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | March 9, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Zeke - trenchcoat. black socks.

...rokkin.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest...if you remember the "RamSkins" its good to know nursing homes are wired.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 9, 2010 2:55 PM

Some of us can actually remember Vince Lombardi and Otto Graham eras...

Posted by: Sonny9 | March 9, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Esample: "Saints are going to give us a second rounder for Fletch?!?"

Posted by: DikShuttle

was going to say a 3rd rounder, but the Saints are the very last team to pick, so we're talking 64th overall.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest...if you remember the "RamSkins" its good to know nursing homes are wired.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 9, 2010 2:55 PM

Some of us can actually remember Vince Lombardi and Otto Graham eras...

Posted by: Sonny9

A D Whitfield anyone?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

z, gotta know a little background on this...serious, or just messin, how long been together, is she the one....

lemme know...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 9, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Good point! purdy much the same thing.

I might rather have the K-Tush, tho.

...of course you can just buy the silicone...

...ew..
..maps.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM
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Wow, I almost thought you left it to the last minute and then I realized you said 4 hours. Stick with the basics: chocolates, flowers, dinner and a movie. Then take her home for a good roger-ing, unless you like doing it in theatre - whatever your preference.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM |

A boyfriend who plans ahead?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse


zcezcest...if you remember the "RamSkins" its good to know nursing homes are wired.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 9, 2010 2:55 PM

Some of us can actually remember Vince Lombardi and Otto Graham eras...

Posted by: Sonny9

A D Whitfield anyone?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:40 PM

I go back to Norman Snead.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 9, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

5 years -- she's great. Fortunately, she hasn't upgraded past me yet.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

*****

At the risk of being the subject of extensive parody, I have a suggestion: how about a whitewater rafting trip as part of a weekend away together in June or July (unless that is something you guys usually do, or you don't think you will still be together then), and a simple dinner out tonight or this coming weekend with a good bottle of wine?

Posted by: manlius1 | March 9, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM


Make sure you pick up a box of RamSkins before you get her.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 9, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

z, the ladies love lingerie, don't let her tell you different...that, or an iron, a frying pan, a vacuum cleaner, um...maybe offer to have a 3-way with one of her hot friends...that should be a good enough start to get the ball rolling...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 9, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I go back to Norman Snead.

Posted by: skinfanman

Wow!! Hey ... I'm NOT the oldest person up here!!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I always end up spendin too much & setting the bar too high. Small Video I-pods are trendy as SJK, no?

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse


How about some "RamSkin" condoms?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 9, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I almost thought you left it to the last minute and then I realized you said 4 hours. Stick with the basics: chocolates, flowers, dinner and a movie. Then take her home for a good roger-ing, unless you like doing it in theatre - whatever your preference.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

thats whack dude, seriously. I could only imagine what would happen if I told my g-friend," Hey,babe....happy b-day...I hope you're ready for your roger-ing! Oh, well I could just pull out my junk in the movie theatre."

Have you no experience with women?

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

z, lemme know how it goes, that advice is a lead pipe lock, its practically fail safe...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 9, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

i go all the way back to eddie lebaron, george izo, .. mid 1950's at old Griffith Stadium..

Posted by: shally | March 9, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

At the risk of being the subject of extensive parody, I have a suggestion: how about a whitewater rafting trip as part of a weekend away together in June or July (unless that is something you guys usually do, or you don't think you will still be together then), and a simple dinner out tonight or this coming weekend with a good bottle of wine?

Posted by: manlius1

Been rafting with her. I love rafting, been on about 15 rivers. Here's one of the pics she took, I'm still in the boat. We did fall in together the day before ...

http://www.pbase.com/faerie_39/image/79445109

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/front-office-total-access-projections.html&position=ot

Here they give grades. Pouncey, Dwyer, and TE Hernandez get 7.5s along with Suh, McCoy and Berry.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 9, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Dude, go ahead and make reservations at her favorite restaraunt and make sure you are not the one who gets hammered.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM

A personalized Disaster Relief Aircraft Carrier.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 9, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

i go all the way back to eddie lebaron, george izo, .. mid 1950's at old Griffith Stadium..

Posted by: shally | March 9, 2010 3:52 PM

I got to a game at Griffith Stadium to see the Senators. I remember they lost. I also remember my brother and I cared more about the concessions.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 9, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

A personalized Disaster Relief Aircraft Carrier.

Posted by: 4-12

Wayyyyyy cool, but maybe I just name it after her :)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

z, you GOTTA go with my advice...ignore these boring suggestions, dinner??...please..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 9, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM


Answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhwbxEfy7fg

Posted by: closer44 | March 9, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

z, you GOTTA go with my advice...ignore these boring suggestions, dinner??...please..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

I know, its a lead pipe lock.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

good luck, zeke. break a leg.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 9, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Have you no experience with women?

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Now listen to me and listen to me good! When your wife, on her honeymoon, asks you to cock her, you cock her good, God damn it!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 9, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM

-- ah a THOUGHTFUL boyfriend. You have 4 whole hours to decide!

I will make a suggestion: stay out of CVS

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 9, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Here they give grades. Pouncey, Dwyer, and TE Hernandez get 7.5s along with Suh, McCoy and Berry.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 9, 2010 3:54 PM

I saw this earlier about Dwyer...than began to search the multple internets....and everybody else has been downgrading him due to poor combine workout....

Possible 2nd round steal if we get another 2nd round pick, since the other 2nd round pick will go for a QB....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"One former assistant coach estimated the Redskins zone blocked about 90 percent of the time."

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This is a misquote by Reid. The former coach actually said the Redskins apparently forgot to block about 90 percent of the time.

Posted by: closer44 | March 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM


McDonalds' gift cards are always welcome, and there's probably a McD's on the way to her house. Plus, at this hour of the day, the lines are short.

Posted by: League-Source | March 9, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

A personalized Disaster Relief Aircraft Carrier.
Posted by: 4-12
Wayyyyyy cool, but maybe I just name it after her :)

If you do, hope she's named Helen. You can't launch 1000 ships anymore, but a ship with a 1000 man crew has to count for something, right?

Posted by: daggar | March 9, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Accidentally posted this in the last entry:

I see no reason NOT to address wr when it won't hinder their ability to address other needs as well. That goes for any other position too. Not just wr.

But I'd also like to see Thomas and or Kelly rise up this year.

Posted by: dfbovey | March 9, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dfbovey | March 9, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I almost thought you left it to the last minute and then I realized you said 4 hours. Stick with the basics: chocolates, flowers, dinner and a movie. Then take her home for a good roger-ing, unless you like doing it in theatre - whatever your preference.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

thats whack dude, seriously. I could only imagine what would happen if I told my g-friend," Hey,babe....happy b-day...I hope you're ready for your roger-ing! Oh, well I could just pull out my junk in the movie theatre."

Have you no experience with women?

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 3:51 PM |

I think he's had a lot of experience, and always with the type of women who, when they hear this, think "Man, RedSkinHead is about the classiest guy I've been out with."

Posted by: League-Source | March 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse


McDonalds' gift cards are always welcome, and there's probably a McD's on the way to her house. Plus, at this hour of the day, the lines are short.

Posted by: League-Source

True story. There is a McD's about a mile from her house, she passes it EVERY day on her way to work. Literally, she's been by it thousands of times. But she is so 'anti' burger places, she didn't even know it was there.

As she points out, it is too risky for her to go into McD's, because she'd actually need to look at the menu, and the people waiting behind her would get mad.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Has there been anything about anyone bombing on the Wonderlic at the Combine? It seems like there are two or three stories like that every year, but I haven't heard any so far. Personally, I don't put much stock in the Wonderlic, but it's funny to see "analysts" get all worked up over it.

Posted by: closer44 | March 9, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

we cut our 2nd best WR and that leaves a slot to fill on the roster, der

Posted by: pabrian2003

Huh? ARE was our 2nd best WR?

Posted by: Rypien11

only if you count that strange statistical phenom known as, "receptions" Someone hasn't been watching the last few years or id just in denial

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 9, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: closer44 | March 9, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Forgot how funny that skit is..

1 you cut a hole in a box..
2 you put your junk in that box.. classic!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | March 9, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Has there been anything about anyone bombing on the Wonderlic at the Combine? It seems like there are two or three stories like that every year, but I haven't heard any so far. Personally, I don't put much stock in the Wonderlic, but it's funny to see "analysts" get all worked up over it.

Posted by: closer44

Bradford hurt his shoulder picking up the #2 pencil

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 9, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I almost thought you left it to the last minute and then I realized you said 4 hours. Stick with the basics: chocolates, flowers, dinner and a movie. Then take her home for a good roger-ing, unless you like doing it in theatre - whatever your preference.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

thats whack dude, seriously. I could only imagine what would happen if I told my g-friend," Hey,babe....happy b-day...I hope you're ready for your roger-ing! Oh, well I could just pull out my junk in the movie theatre."

Have you no experience with women?

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 3:51 PM
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Give me a break. Are you such a prude that you've never done the act in a slightly controversial place? I bet you're not even a member of the mile high club, are you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I think he's had a lot of experience, and always with the type of women who, when they hear this, think "Man, RedSkinHead is about the classiest guy I've been out with."

Posted by: League-Source | March 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

In a perfect world my girl would be stoked if I pulled out my junk in the theatre. I just cut a hole in the bottom of the popcorn bag and hold it in my lap.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM

-- ah a THOUGHTFUL boyfriend. You have 4 whole hours to decide!

I will make a suggestion: stay out of CVS

Posted by: dpc2003 | March 9, 2010 4:04 PM
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Nothing says, "Happy Birthday" than glow in the dark condoms. And a word of advice: when you hold one up to the light so it will glow better, be sure your equipment isn't in there.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break. Are you such a prude that you've never done the act in a slightly controversial place? I bet you're not even a member of the mile high club, are you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I bet you aren't either. I've f*cked my girl and ex-girlfriends in plenty of messed up spots. A jogging trail, got a bj in the movie theatre, a swimming pool with other people in it, etc.etc.

All I'm saying is girls don't think like guys, and trust me, getting a piece from her b/f is not what she really wants for her b-day. Do something nice for her, and that's just icing on the cake.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I think he's had a lot of experience, and always with the type of women who, when they hear this, think "Man, RedSkinHead is about the classiest guy I've been out with."

Posted by: League-Source | March 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

In a perfect world my girl would be stoked if I pulled out my junk in the theatre. I just cut a hole in the bottom of the popcorn bag and hold it in my lap.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 4:20 PM
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You'll never react to the smell of popcorn the same way ever again.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

cuban not dominican though.

Posted by: malcolmyoung1 | March 9, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

only if you count that strange statistical phenom known as, "receptions" Someone hasn't been watching the last few years or id just in denial

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 9, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

If we also count that rare occurence known as a TD then Fred Davis is far better than ARE. Davis had 509 yards compared to ARE's 530. Davis also had 6 TDs to ARE's 0 TDs. They had the same average and ARE had 2 more catches. I'd have to go with Davis on this one. I think 6 TDs is more vlauable than 21 yards.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 9, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break. Are you such a prude that you've never done the act in a slightly controversial place? I bet you're not even a member of the mile high club, are you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I can't name one person I know personally who is in the mile high club. It's comments like that, that make me think you are in the never had sex club.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Here they give grades. Pouncey, Dwyer, and TE Hernandez get 7.5s along with Suh, McCoy and Berry.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 9, 2010 3:54 PM

I want one that goes to eleven.

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 9, 2010 3:34 PM

Another girl and a cup.

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break. Are you such a prude that you've never done the act in a slightly controversial place? I bet you're not even a member of the mile high club, are you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I bet you aren't either. I've f*cked my girl and ex-girlfriends in plenty of messed up spots. A jogging trail, got a bj in the movie theatre, a swimming pool with other people in it, etc.etc.

All I'm saying is girls don't think like guys, and trust me, getting a piece from her b/f is not what she really wants for her b-day. Do something nice for her, and that's just icing on the cake.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 4:25 PM
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Man, I am just messing with you. I've been married for 22 years and I don't need advice from anyone on how to appease the wife. I figure I must be doing something right if the marriage has lasted that long.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Man, I am just messing with you. I've been married for 22 years and I don't need advice from anyone on how to appease the wife. I figure I must be doing something right if the marriage has lasted that long.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 9, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry then

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 9, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: dcsween | March 9, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Has there been anything about anyone bombing on the Wonderlic at the Combine? It seems like there are two or three stories like that every year, but I haven't heard any so far. Personally, I don't put much stock in the Wonderlic, but it's funny to see "analysts" get all worked up over it.

Posted by: closer44 | March 9, 2010 4:14 PM

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has Idaho's Mike Iupati (Guard, 6-5, 331) with a score of 13. He's considered the top prospect at guard and a projected 1st rounder.

Apparently, UMass tackle Vladimir Ducasse (6-4, 330), projected as a high second rounder, also scored a 13.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 9, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Girlfriend's b-day is today, and I'm picking her up in 4 hurs.

Question: What do I get her for her b-day?

*****

An offensive lineman, no a QB chicks love QB's. Actually I don't know. Ask me again in April.

Posted by: Dirtbag359 | March 9, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Zone blocking is simply a style of blocking that allows for those blocking to block an area and not be specifically tied to a particular defender.

Two or three players work in unison to block an area for the ball carrier,rather than working alone. It was created to handle large moving defensive linemen...a simple concept but it takes a lot of practice because it involves the offensive linemen working in unison and decisions have to be made while the play is taking place.

In the zone blocking scheme you don't have a lot of different assignments, but you do have a lot of techniques. It takes many repetitions to get the feel for working together as a unit. The diversity of the scheme comes by the backs running different angles and by the offense using different formations to confuse the defense.

The scheme is designed to accomplish four basic functions...It outnumbers the defense at the point of attack...You don't need physically superior athletes to be effective...It's easily adaptable to many offensive styles...and it effectively neutralizes slanting and stunting defenders.

Posted by: MHEDRLT | March 10, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

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