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Free Agent Update

Heard today that the Skins agreed to a one-year deal with Mike Pucillo, probably for close to the vet. min.
The Skins are also talking to Todd Yoder and that one could get done in a few days as well. From what I have heard, the team is not showing interest in many other tight ends.

I imagine Vernon Fox deal is something else that could get done by the end of the week as well, but haven't heard anything concrete on that one.

Still working on Dockery. Still looking at Flecher and Clements as the top targets in free agency.

Also, still trying to pin down precisely what the Skins most likely new MLB wants to be called. The NFLPA has him listed as London Fletcher. Many NFL periodicals do the same. So I figured, okay, let's just call his agent and find out for certain what to call the guy ... Problem is his agent is Drew "Next Question" Rosenhaus, so we'll see when he gets around to calling me back.

DCsween has a guest blog that I'll get up Wednesday morning. Skins will cut a few more players by Thursday's deadline, will likely get a restructuring or two done by then as well (sorry, Lisa, but highly unlikely to be Springs by then), and then we'll be off to the races come Friday.

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 27, 2007; 4:30 PM ET
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Redskins SB is only 2 days away and counting......

Posted by: 4th | February 27, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

This is all so exciting! The Norv Turner Offseason Trophy will once again roost in DC.

Like its cousin, the Stanley Cup, the NTOT is an aluminum foil-coated Dixie Cup etched using a Sharpie with the names of every free agent signed by the winning team, along with their contract details.

The NTOT is presented annually to the team with the most disparate talent-to-value ratio. The Trophy is awarded in a ceremony presided over by the NFL Commissioner. First-time presenter Commissioner Roger Goodell expressed his delight in being able to present this year, adding, "It's always great to be in our Nation's Capital in April. I'm a huge Cherry Blossom fan, and I'm looking forward to watching these high-priced free agents blossom in their new home."

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

How is it possible we could land Clements given our cap situation? Mystifying. But I'd be happy to have "Nate in the BUF" switch over to "Nate in the IAD."

I am worried about the vacancy on our O line if Dockery leaves, but he may not leave, who knows.

It helps to remind myself that thanks to Jason and the blog I know waaaaay more about this whole process than I ever have. (I used to pretty much tune out from the SB to the draft, and then again until training camp.) And it's still early.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

You forgot to add the that 'Skins are going for a 7-peat.

Posted by: LH | February 27, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Tiger Woods' associating himself with this new golf tourney in DC -- which seems like an indication that he will play in DC every year -- is huge, huge, huge. This is a real coup for DC sports. Wow.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Bravo, Amtts. Two minor comments:
wishes to wish and actul to actual. I would edit myself but still nervous about blogging.

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the repeat, just wanted make sure people saw it:

Gents and Ladies. It's official (at least until it gets deleted). Take a gander and add as you see fit!

I've been watching the combine. I keep coughing everytime I see one of those D-Lineman. I realized that my brain was actually throwing up because it was reminded of Mike Mamula.

Derrick Dockery just now got called for holding...wait....wait..........false start.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | February 27, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I think Nate Clements is a bama. I wish Springs would simmer and accept the fact that he is an injury prone corner and not try and go out and get paid like crazy. Grab Smoot. You have Springs, Smoot and Rogers. You have Prioleau, Sean Teazey, LaRon Landry and Adam Archuletta (notice mispelling his name is now played out so let's get back to the full name and spelling...thank you).

We should also try our best to secure my new favorite player in the draft: Jarvis Moss. Mark my words, this kid is going to be ridiculous in the NFL and impossible to guard. I have seen him play twice and both times he blocked field goals. They were both big games and in one of the games he blocked two. That kind of tightness reminds me of Cypress Hill's first album.

Posted by: The Governor | February 27, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

There's more Mad Dog. I jsut thought he was following the blog's "spelling optional" ethos.

Posted by: LH | February 27, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Appreciated Mad Dog. Sometimes the edits take a few minutes to show up I guess. I fixed those after my girlfriend glanced at the screen for .000000348 seconds and goes: 'you misspelled actual...and it's 'wishes' have a great rest of your day!'

Please note that I no longer own my own junk.

LaRon Landry just made a play on the ball.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | February 27, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse


We don't care what he wants to be called, we will refer to him as the "candlestickmaker" or variations thereof.

Posted by: Old School | February 27, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Please note that I no longer own my own junk.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | February 27, 2007 04:57 PM

AMTTS- You think it's bad now, just wait until you get married. lol

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

LH: Had to go back and re-read. ensconced and apocalyptic?

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Well, that's just dandy :-( They certainly do not have to cut Springs now (but watch them do it) or EVER (but watch them do it) and I would just love to know what the heck we are gonna do at corner.....I've heard from every possible source that Clements is unaffordable. I get angry just thinking about it.

Posted by: Lisa | February 27, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I want JLaC to use the word "apoplectic" in print.

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I feel a smack to the back of the head coming.

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Oooh, ooh, is it time to post our favorite words aside from shabingus?

I give you kerfuffle and pulchritude, fulsome and zaftig.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Football question JaLA, everyone.

Why if teams have 53 men on the payroll don't 53 dress for each game. who benefits from having 6 inactives ? owners ? coaches ? players? league ? doesn't make sense to me. mole, anybody got answer

Posted by: Old School | February 27, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Leo Roth of the Democrat & Chronicle writes:
(July 30, 2006) -- PITTSFORD -- He still signs his autograph "London Fletcher," and "Fletcher" will remain on the back of his jersey.
But the Buffalo Bills' star middle linebacker has instructed the team's communications department to officially change his last name to "Fletcher-Baker" on all rosters and depth charts that appear in print or on the team's Web site.
Why the hyphen?
"'Fletcher' is my mom's name, but the name 'Baker' is to pay homage to my grandfather and father with their last name," Fletcher said. "They've been trying to change my name for a while. They thought about it when I was in elementary school. My grandfather was adamant about me carrying on the Baker legacy. I'm the last male who can carry on the name."
Fletcher legally made the name change two years ago, but it wasn't until he was married in June, and his wife, Charne', wanted to know what last name she should use that he decided to go by the hyphenated version...
Fletcher is still easier to print on the back of a jersey, though, and it's a lot easier to sign an autograph that way.
He also doesn't expect newspapers or TV and radio announcers to call him "Fletcher-Baker."
"I don't want to confuse people any more than I have," said Fletcher, in his 10th NFL season. "I've had Fletcher for over 30 years now -- a lot of name recognition that goes with that."

Posted by: LH | February 27, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

How 19th Century would it be for Jason to write, "Sean Taylor was positively apoplectic after his kerfuffle with Terrell Owens at midfield. From the sidelines, the zaftig Chris Samuel heaped fulsome praise upon the pulchritude demonstrated by Taylor's punches."

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

f is my favorite . I can spell it and there isn't a sentence or a shabingus I can't use it in.

Posted by: Old School | February 27, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Old School, I've been wondering that forever. I think it's the dumbest rule. St. Joe doesn't understand it either, and remarked to that effect several times last season.

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Ordered a shirt. Rockin' idea!

Shabingus rules!

Posted by: bornafan | February 27, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

From Wikipedia -

"The term was 1st coined by a stand-up comedian from Washington, DC on a Washington Redskins sports blog on Washington [1] in reference to the disastrous state of the team and the suspect performance of the players as well as the front office."

Duh - a little internet research would have shown that the word has been around at least a year and one definition is that it is a party that is out of control - but that's how the participants want it.

Posted by: charlie | February 27, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

ChrisLarry posting under Old School?

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"The inactive list arose when rosters were expanded to 53 years ago, then the old "moves" system, under which each team could make a limited number of roster changes annually, was discarded. Now teams can change their rosters as often as they please, with the provisos that seven cannot dress; purists seem to feel that 45 players, the roster maximum, was the "correct" number dressed for a football game. No immutable law dictates this number, it's just arbitrarily chosen. The league could have teams dress 20 and require everyone to play both ways, or dress 90 as do many Division I-A colleges, or any other number pulled from a hat. "

Credit to Gregg Easterbrook from

Posted by: 4-12 | February 27, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy: I might substitute Grilliams for Samuels.

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I believe the inactive list is a shabingus.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 27, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Favorite words: defenestrate and triskaidekaphobia. I like apoplectic, too.

Posted by: straight outta hampton | February 27, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The blog is starting to sound like my son's SAT Prep Book.

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

A re-run of Frasier can't be far behind.

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I eagerly await Bangbros' list of favorite words.

Posted by: SMACK | February 27, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Word of the day: Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

Learn it, love it, use it.

Nothing quite like abusing the English language.

Posted by: Megskin | February 27, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I think you left out "espiali"

Posted by: Mary Poppins | February 27, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Megskin, that word's jes cheatin':


Posted by: stevie in ct | February 27, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

A very niiice!! I like a the "shabingus" post in the, how you say, wikipedia. Great Successsss!!! This is the number one blog in all of kazakhstan!!!

Posted by: BORAT | February 27, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Stevie: Isn't the "antidis" superfluous?

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Well, doing a little more research - and frankly, we've blogged our guts out so freakin' much that we have taken over the definition of shabingus. AMTTS - yours is now the defacto definition of shabingus.

Hmmmm - I'm thinking about what kind of power this blog is now having.....

Posted by: charlie | February 27, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Mad Dog: would have been but "disestablishmentarianism" was an established (no pun wanted) movement the "antis" were trying to counter.


does anyone (i.e. Jason) know the type of relationship Clements had with Grilliams? Seems to me, in order to have any chance to get him at less-than-market, there must be something there. Or is it all a pipedream?

Posted by: stevie in ct | February 27, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Just did the funniest conference call. It was called by a complete idiot, who quickly lost control to me. A couple of the guys on my staff were on, but silent. Throughout, they IMed me a list of cliches to work into the conversation. I got 10 out of 10 in:

"Let's light this candle"
"Bingo, paydirt"
"Where the rubber meets the road"
"If you're the lead dog, the view never changes"
"I'll be there like white on rice"
"Let's take this one day at a time"
"Don't put the cart before the house"
"A rotten apple spoils the whole bunch"
"A penny saved is a penny earned"

And, the last one, thrown in by me for good measure:
"I want everyone to blog their guts out on this"

Ah, meetings with time-wasting morons. Gotta love them.

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Watching Rich Eisen struggle with this sweatshirt is priceless.

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Short MSFT

Posted by: blue horshoe | February 27, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I think it was the WashPo that had that ludicrous story about "multitasking" this weekend. Seriously, snow new day, huh?

In any event, my last half hour consisted of:
1. Making Kraft Mac and Cheese
2. Eating Kraft Mac and Cheese
3. Blogging up here
4. Watching the Combine
5. Doing that stupid conference call
6. Holding my dog up so that he can pee

BTW, on #6...let's just say, I know now that I will never have children. Helping my pooch go to the bathroom as he recovers from his ordeal is the most humbling thing I've ever done. I feel very daddy-like this afternoon. Someone should buy me a tie and take me golfing, or something like that.

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, typing and multi-tasking is not my forte. "Snow new day", while possibly true, should be "slow news day".

Let's light this candle!

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

You'll want to check out Tony and Mike in the new video that will be posted shortly. They weigh in on Brunell....Tony calls his return "a disaster." Wilbon is more charitable and says Coach Joe will be able to restrain from turning Jason Campbell into the 2007 version of Patrick Ramsey.
Also, I get ripped for my wardrobe, even though I make significantly less than Tony and Mike.

Posted by: Cindy | February 27, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Just gotta say that I love this blog more than ever. It a major joy in my life . . . which I know doesn't say much for my life. : )

Nate - love the shirts. My two cents is have a shirt with a back that has a plethora (my contribution to favorite words) of RI lingo like shabingus, smack to the back of the head, *hugs*, chooch, bama, BAMF, 100K by draft day (yeah I think we did wind it down to 50k( etc. Not sure what should go on the front - BYGOT?

I will pipe in here and say that not sure if I should but I will take a wee bit of credit for suggesting the garden gnome on WaPo snow cam - I cannot believe my dream is coming true.

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Diddy- It is very humbling, and rewarding as I've found out over the past 3 months. That first smile, the first coo... you just have to experience it. Now I understand what parents mean when they say wait until you have your own.

Oh, and as far as the daddy-like ugly tie, go golfing thing once you become a dad rumor... no way. Mrs. 4-12 is still shouting "Bingo, paydirt!" after Saturday night/Sunday morning.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 27, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

In that vein, I believe it's cart before the horse

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 27, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Having caught up on previous posts methinks that some of you don't realize that if you click on the back of the cafepress t-shirts, you get an enlargement of it. There is writing on both sides.

I submitted one to Nate that is probably too long to on the shirt.

We talk about it. We discuss it.
We give our opinions. We analyse it.
We discuss it again. We beat it like a dead horse.


Posted by: charlie | February 27, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Insider
"Wrecking homes and causing unemployement since 2006"

Posted by: Dorf | February 27, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

And now for a question which I am a bit embarassed to ask because I think the answer is truly obvious but for some reason my pea sized brain that hates math can't see it. Please don't hate me because I am beaut . . . I mean stupid.

Okay so we have a salary cap - got it.
It's in the $100 million range - got it.
If a player has a x year contract and gets cut before it's up the $ still counts towards the cap - got it.
So the $ is spread out over several years to bring us under the cap but we are really actually over it - I think I got it.

Question - if a player like Springs is cut but still counts towards $5 mill on the cap he isn't getting paid that $5 mill right? Or is he?
If he isn't is that $5 mill actually exist in "cash" and if it does where does it go? Or does it mean that we only have $95 mill to spend instead of $100 mill?

I am confused help me.

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

sfskin- Correct, he's not getting paid that $5 million.

Not sure I understand the "exist in 'cash'" question.

Yes, we'd only have $95 million to spend since he'd count $5 million against the $100 mil cap.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 27, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Depends on when he's cut. If before June 1st, everything gets accelerated onto the 2006 cap year. If it's after June 1st, it's spread evenly onto 2006 and 2007.

I could be wrong...but I'm sure someone will correct me.

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

is it wrong that I'm a little bit attracted to the women's Hardcore Insider t-shirt? She's kinda hot . . .

Posted by: stevie in ct | February 27, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I got my annual crack today . . . girl scout cookies! Thin Mints, Samoas (although I believe they are now carmel delights) and more. . . . delicious. . .

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

(oh gawd, I just blogged that out loud, didn't I?)

Posted by: stevie in ct | February 27, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and he's not getting paid anymore. He already got's his signing bonus money, which is prorated over the life of his contract. His "cap number" is his prorated signing bonus, bonuses/incentives earned the previous year, and his base salary.

Again, a resident capologist should jump in and correct...

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

If they cut him, they don't pay him (only the signing bonuses are guaranteed in the NFL). But the money they WOULD have paid him counts against the $100 mil hypothetical cap.

They aren't looking to re-sign Springs. They want him to renegotiate a contract that is more cap-advantageous to the Skins (and would be a paycut in some ways for Springs). Springs is betting that he'll get more on the open market than he stands to lose if he reworks his contract.

Posted by: 'canes fan (not Miami) | February 27, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

I like those peanut butter chocolate ones. I've avoided the Girl Scout trap for 3 years.

Sadly, I couldn't avoid the "cookie dough for my daugher's soccer team" trap. Damn you peanut butter chocolate chip cookie dough!!!

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

4-12 - that answers my question with the $95 mill vs. $100 mill.

The "cash" question was the idea that the team brings in more revenue than it spends (right?) because of the cap, so revenue that is over $100 mill goes to coaches salaries etc. But if you're not paying Springs the $5mill, you theoritically have an additional $5mill in cash which you use to hire the coach for the guy who catches the PTA's and FG's.
Or do we in fact spend more than we bring in?

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Springs is betting that he'll get more on the open market"

Given the dearth of respectable corners in the pass-happy, QB-friendly NFL, he's probably right.

Posted by: P Diddy | February 27, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Did the Girl Scout cookie monsters finally cave on trans-fats? Can anyone detect a different level of deliciousness?

I have so far fought the urge, but the dude a few cubicles away is selling them for his kid, and as I've repeatedly testified up here, one thing I ain't got is will power.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Is that how you spell theoritically? Theoretically?
Now it just looks like a stupid word to me.

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

BTW I realize my money questions are really not that relevant to the team and player questions but I was just wondering so thanks for all answers.

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

sfskin- dannyboy brings in hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. No way he can spend it all. He's making some serious profit owning the 'Skins.
Gotta go home for baby doodie duty...will put on my capologist hat later tonight after she's off to sleep.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 27, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

stevie, good one up there.

I like "Hardcore Insider" as a tag line -- I believe charlie gave us that one back when we first started discussing shirts -- but frankly I doubt any woman would wear such a provocative/silly moniker.

Speaking of which, any of you female types with tee shirt requests for the ladies' style shirts, please feel free to contribute. I hope some of you are big enough blog dorks that you would consider buying a shirt, so help me help you. This is an interactive process, yo.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

The cap is 109 million.

stevie in ct,

Get off the computer now 'cause you've got to get out in the real world.

Posted by: charlie | February 27, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Also, Nate can (will?) change the shirts every once in a while with new sayings once old ones stop selling.

Posted by: charlie | February 27, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

no doubt about that, charlie, but then I would get the affirmation I so crave (thanx Nate).

(I'm actually remarkably well-adjusted - all my doctors tell me so.)

Posted by: stevie in ct | February 27, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Confirming that bornafan (as he commented above) did indeed make the first purchase from the RI shirt store, scoring a shabingus tee shirt.

My sincere thanks! May this be the first of many happy customer experiences.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"would NOT" right charlie, going . . .

Posted by: stevie in ct | February 27, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Heck yes, I'm going to expand the store and selections as soon as I get some relatively free time.

I intend for this shabingus to see me through the offseason... and for it to generate a decent amount of cash which we can send along with our blog peeps for the summer mission to New Orleans!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances of the Redskins getting Fred SMOOOOOOOT back.

Posted by: Rizwan | February 27, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

The problem with BYGOT (blogging your guts out) is obvious, and depending your point of view, maybe even redundant for the supporters of the full name of the team. For a shirt, however, because blogging is a community endeavor, seems like it would be BOGOT (blogging our guts out) ... theoreticly ... theoretical E ... theoheretically ... I see the problem.

Posted by: dcsween | February 27, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Glad you feel my pain dcsween.

Nate I will be on the shirt patrol as soon as me gets me monthly check manana. I've no preference for lady shirts cuz I don't really wear them. They're made/cut for liddle ladees who wear sizes like 2 or 0 or 00 . . . question how can you be a 0 size wouldn't that indicate a lack of substance/existence? 'nother question if you go from a 00 to a 0 how much weight did you gain? 1oz?

I'm gonna go eat some more crack cookies. . . Whitney Houston got it wrong crack is not whack when it is in cookie form.

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, doesn't Redskins Insider (the term) belong to the WaPo? If it shows up on a shirt, does it need to have a little R or C with a circle around it or a TM? Can you check in with your suits?

I propose something simple: "Redskins Insider: Guts out Blogging"

The whole "guts out" thing is an homage/mockery of Joe Gibbs' weekly pressers ... repeating the same line on a weekly basis ... in his down home folksy diction. Ever notice how he says "real" instead of "very". The team fought real hard out there today. We knew it was going to be real tough and we game planned around it. That stuff.

Given that the RI is the WaPo's #3 blog traffic-wise, can we at least use some part of the WaPo logo? I'm thinking the folks here are going to be real interested and buying their guts out to get more shirts as soon as Nate gets this thing off the ground.

Posted by: dcsween | February 27, 2007 8:39 PM | Report abuse


The problem is that cafepress is a profit making enterprise. Anytime, they print a shirt with Redskins or WashPost, they are going to want a percentage - and that means getting into contractual agreements which you need to get lawyers to review, etc. By keeping it to having the blog printed on the shirts - which we have gotten permission from the Post to do so - and doing things like Hardcore Insider and our brilliant sayings - we can do it quickly and without wasting our precious time drawing up contracts, etc.

Simple, sweet and quick. No sweat - except inside the shirts!

Posted by: charlie | February 27, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

How bout this guys....

1) I keep hearing from "fans" that the Skins let core players go, and we overpay for outsiders. Having said that, Dockery is a very good guard, but would you break the bank for him knowing you have other needs on defense. At some point the over spending has to stop.
2) Is Springs really the answer for this defense even if healthy? He's an above average corner, better than anything we have, but what's wrong with upgrading? And if he doesn't want to take a pay cut, then let him go.

Worst decisions in the past 7 years
1) Firing Marty
2) Letting Pierce go
3) trading picks when you didn't have to
4) handling of Jason Campbell; sticking with Brunell too long.

Best decisions
1) Portis
2) Moss
3) Mike Sellars

Jury still out
1) Brandon Lloyd
2) Al Saunders' offense
3) Adam Archuletta
4) two back system
5) Jason Campbell
6) Joe Gibbs Era II

Fans, stop whining about the following

1) that somehow losing dockery will make or break this team
2) free agency (Portis, Washington, Moss, Daniels, Prioleau, Springs, Rabach) IT's HIT OR MISS LIKE THE DRAFT!!!!!!!!!
you all act like drafts can't produce busts either

Posted by: sicwidit | February 27, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

sick -- sickwid(?) -- then what are we supposed to talk about for the next four months?

Posted by: cload and daggar | February 27, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse


My opinion the mother of all bad decisions made by this team over the past 7 yrs.


It begins and ends there. all the other "Bad moves" we have made we probbally could have lived with.That one destroyed the confidence in his future with this team (talking about Brad Johson) the only good QB we have had in the last 15 yrs.Its A QB league you go nowhere without one, he was pretty good, not great but a winner a leader and we would have been stable there and he probbally would have helped develope his successor (Campell) and in the process we would have been a consistent playoff type team even with the other dumb things we have done. As TK would say "thats, it thats the list"

Posted by: Old School | February 27, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

sicwidit, one of the moves I lament the most is the way LaVar was, uh, LaVarred.

He was utterly humiliated after becoming the congenial and very popular face of the franchise -- and yes, he was maddeningly inconsistent on the field. The front office just crushed him in a mean, dirty, despicable way. And I think that's part of a disturbing pattern.

They did something similar with Laveranues -- plasma teevee -- and then again last year when they essentially banished Archuleta from the D backfield. Vindictive, callous conduct.

Yes, those were three very different situations, but in each case our front office and coaching staff (with Arch & LaVar) conducted themselves in ignominious fashion. I'd like to see a little more class up here.

And I'd like to see them do a better job picking free agents and draft picks. But that's fodder for the next ten months or so -- the additions and subtractions, and how they pan out on the field -- as cload astutely noted above.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 27, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I agree OS. When they brought in JG, I thought WTF????

Brad had a lifetime .600 winning percentage and then they spent megabucks on losing-record George and then let him run the offense, I was flabbergasted that they were that stupid. Eh, fortunately that's now a long time ago.

Posted by: charlie | February 27, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

And why go back only seven years? I think I'm on record with the point that the ole' marble-mouth was the seminal event (double word score!) in the downfall of the skins. Danny did the right thing by booting his a$$ out the door -- should've done it sooner. Martyball was not the answer, and everybody wanted the old ball coach when he was king of Florida. Getting Gibbs to come back is one of the single greatest marketing moves in the modern industrial era. We'll see if it was a great strategic move...

Posted by: cload and daggar | February 27, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I didn't mind what they did to LaVar.

How are you supposed to run a defense when one of your players doesn't even play his position? And thinks he's bigger than the coaches and doesn't have to listen to them?

Do you think LaVar would have gotten away with not playing his assignments on a team like the Patriots or Colts?

Of course not.

He had to be on the bench, absolutely had to.

I'm glad he's gone now as well. He acts like a 12 year old when it comes to football.

Does he seem smart off the field? Seemingly. Articulate? I guess.

But just don't ask him to be football smart. He is a miserable failure at that.

The Coles stuff was a mixed bag. Both sides were at fault. Coles instigated the plasma TV comment by demanding more money from the Jets so as to prevent the trade, which he was not crazy about at first because he was allegedly told he was going to be outright cut. Depends on who you believe. Coles seems like a shady character to me, so I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially when he suddenly warmed to the Jets SIMPLY because they actually DID agree to pay him more money.

Only the Archuleta stuff was questionable to me, if only because of the whole part of Gregg Williams not talking to him for weeks. How childish is that.

And Archuleta shouldn't have been asked to suddenly become Ed Reed and be a coverage demon simply because the Redskins don't know how properly build depth at CB through the draft and thus leave themselves in a position where they need to use Archuleta where he's not suitable.

Who can ever forget the Kenny Wright and Mike Rumph disaster at the beginning of the season last year?

Archuleta was caught in the middle of that. I feel sorry for him.

Which brings me to a new point: the Redskins should draft CBs. If GW wants to run a blitz happy defense, you better have some cover guys, which the Redskins don't have right now.

Forget the D-lineman already.

The entire defense fell apart whenever Springs was not playing.

And teams were shredding the 'Skins on on the ground on Carter's side, who obviously's going to be there again next year.

What difference does it make who's on the other side? Daniels held it down over there pretty good against the run.

Carter's the problem when it comes to the run game.

Posted by: Cliff Huxtable | February 27, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Again I know there is no way to prove this but I did NOT want Spurrier. I figured he was going to be a disaster from day one. Rarely does a college coach translate to NFL without any kind of NFL background. Plus Spurrier couldn't have been more arrogant if he tried.

Old School I am so with you on Jeff George. Literally the biggest WTF ever. The guy could hurl the ball downfield and that's about it. I remember thinking he was going to be a bust and an arrogant SOB bust when he made the cover of SI after being drafted by Indy.
I say it's #1 bad move and Spurrier was #2.

I'm hoping Gibbs 2.4 will be a major move away from all this crap permanently.

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

J-La - in your conversations with Brunell does he give any suggestion or hint that he thinks he might have a shot at starting next season?
I know he's a stand up team guy and will tow the party line but just curious if he's given off any indication that he wants that shot.

Posted by: sfskin | February 27, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Re Brunell: They have to cut him loose. First, he finished. Second, he's Joe Gibbs' Danny Wuerffel. At the first sign of trouble Joe is going to turn to his Christian brother.

Posted by: LH | February 27, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I really hope that both Gibbs and Brunell know he is nothing more than a backup at this point. I'm a little concerned because we have heard Gibbs say things like "the book isn't closed on Mark" or something to that extent. But the main reason I don't see something happening unless Campbell gets hurt is this. Gibbs had no allegiance to Ramsey when he did him dirty. Ramsey was an inherited QB who never earned his trust for one reason or another. Campbell was hand picked by Gibbs and what they gave up to get him means they have to go with him as the starter. Hopefully, the offense will get off to a quick start and it won't be a concern. I am sure we have all seen enough Brunell short hops to last a lifetime.

Cliff Huxtable - well said and I agree with all but one. "Forget the D-lineman already." Teams are built on the lines. We could have Champ Bailey and Deion in his prime at CB but if you can't stop the run we will be seeing a Tiki Barber week 17 against us game in and out. This defense was at its best when Griffin and Salave'a were stuffing the middle.

Posted by: cdubb | February 27, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

According to Brian Billick, the inactive rule was designed so that teams with less money to spend on players 40-53 would be on equal footing with teams like the Redskins that used to stash players under the old Gibbs era. He believes that since there is now a cap there is no longer a need for such a rule but alot of the old-guard owners like R Wilson in Buffalo still like the rule and won't get rid of it.

Posted by: eric, baltimore | February 27, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Keeping Brunell will work out -- if Campbell was the nervous type, Ramsey , it might affect his performance. Campbell's biggest risks are mechanical, not confidence/leadership.
[And for Lisa, I know, I know, it's all Spurrier's fault, but bottom line is the guy will be running for congress next year.]

Posted by: cload and daggar | February 27, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Jeff George broke John from Herndon's heart

Posted by: Dorf | February 28, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

So Poochie and Yoda are probably coming back. Whoop dee doo.

Is Poochie the heir apparent to fill that guard spot, if Dockery goes bye-bye, or am I just leaping to that conclusion because he (Poochie) seems to represent 100% of our O-line depth?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | February 28, 2007 1:00 AM | Report abuse

All this discussion about bringing in Jeff George ... just like to remind everyone that we drafted Heath Shuler. This has gotta be up there with the George decision. How easily we forget ...

And for the record, I will do my damnest to get people in the Philippines to start using Shabingus.

Long live the RI.

Posted by: Paps in Manila | February 28, 2007 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 5:48 AM | Report abuse

It would be nice if the Skins FO would memorize this list, get to know the players individually, and grab one with a later round pick:'s prospect rankings: Cornerbacks
Pos. Rank Overall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd
1 9 *Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh 6-0 190 4.54 1
2 19 Daymeion Hughes CB California 5-10 192 4.54 1
3 21 Leon Hall CB Michigan 5-11 193 4.48 1
4 24 Aaron Ross CB Texas 6-1 192 4.46 1
5 43 *Chris Houston CB Arkansas 5-11 185 4.49 2
6 44 Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee 5-10 192 4.42 2
7 46 Josh Wilson CB Maryland 5-09 188 4.28 2
8 48 Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State 6-1 200 4.43 2
9 49 A.J. Davis CB North Carolina State 5-10 192 4.44 2
10 73 David Irons CB Auburn 5-10 188 4.46 2-3
11 86 *Eric Wright CB UNLV 5-11 190 4.47 3
12 88 Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech 6-1 185 4.46 3
13 90 Fred Bennett CB South Carolina 6-1 195 4.45 3
14 100 Tarell Brown CB Texas 5-11 192 4.47 3-4
15 103 Michael Coe CB Alabama State 6-1 186 4.54 3-4
16 105 *Ryan Smith CB Florida 5-10 168 4.43 3-4
17 117 C.J. Wilson CB Baylor 6-1 196 4.55 4
18 137 Travarous Bain CB Hampton 6-0 178 4.44 4-5
19 157 Corey Graham CB New Hampshire 6-0 190 4.42 5
20 179 DeAndre Jackson CB Iowa State 5-11 192 4.48 5-6
21 181 Tyron Brackenridge CB Washington State 5-11 190 4.56 5-6
22 199 Reggie Lewis CB Florida 5-10 195 4.45 6
23 205 John Talley CB Duke 6-0 188 4.53 6
24 235 Chaz Williams CB Louisiana-Monroe 5-11 190 4.49 6-7
25 245 Anthony Arline CB Baylor 6-1 195 4.58 6-7
26 256 Brandon McDonald CB Memphis 5-11 177 4.47 7
27 263 Duane Coleman CB Clemson 5-11 195 4.52 7
28 276 Tony Franklin CB Virginia 5-10 185 4.45 7-FA
29 286 Bo Smith CB Weber State 5-11 190 4.52 7-FA
30 303 William Gay CB Louisville 5-10 184 4.55 7-FA
31 353 Trumaine McBride CB Mississippi 5-10 185 4.49
32 360 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia 6-0 190 4.56
33 373 Sergio Gilliam CB Clemson 6-2 185 4.50
34 401 Calvin Bannister CB Hampton 5-07 182 4.39
35 425 Marquice Cole CB NorthWestern 5-11 185 4.42

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 6:37 AM | Report abuse

And maybe they can do the same with one of these guys:

(Wow! Quinn Pitcock projected in round 4??? Sounds like a steal.)'s prospect rankings: Defensive Tackles
Pos. Rank Overall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd
1 8 *Alan Branch DT Michigan 6-6 330 5.38 1
2 12 Amobi Okoye DT Louisville 6-2 287 5.03 1
3 52 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee 6-4 305 5.09 2
4 74 Marcus Thomas DT Florida 6-3 290 4.96 2-3
5 77 Brandon Mebane DT California 6-1 305 4.98 2-3
6 79 Tank Tyler DT North Carolina State 6-2 323 5.20 3
7 85 Turk McBride DT Tennessee 6-4 276 4.93 3
8 99 Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi State 6-3 305 4.95 3-4
9 119 Paul Soliai DT Utah 6-4 325 5.32 4
10 126 Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State 6-3 301 4.95 4
11 145 Jay Alford DT Penn State 6-2 288 4.98 4-5
12 150 Kareem Brown DT Miami 6-4 303 5.09 5
13 174 Derek Landri DT Notre Dame 6-3 282 4.96 5-6
14 192 David Patterson DT Ohio State 6-2 274 4.94 6
15 193 Keith Jackson DT Arkansas 6-0 295 4.99 6
16 215 Matt Toeaina DT Oregon 6-2 305 5.06 6-7
17 227 Joe Anoai DT Georgia Tech 6-3 288 4.96 6-7
18 232 Joe Cohen DT Florida

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 6:40 AM | Report abuse

I hope the scouts remember that fast + size is an important combination. We don't need a second Carter.'s prospect rankings: Defensive Ends
Pos. Rank Overall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd
1 7 Gaines Adams DE Clemson 6-5 260 4.72 1
2 10 *Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas 6-6 274 4.85 1
3 13 Adam Carriker DE Nebraska 6-6 292 4.86 1
4 26 *Charles Johnson DE Georgia 6-2 272 4.77 1-2
5 30 *Jarvis Moss DE Florida 6-6 252 4.63 1-2
6 31 Anthony Spencer DE Purdue 6-3 266 4.67 1-2
7 38 LaMarr Woodley DE Michigan 6-2 269 4.68 1-2
8 40 Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame 6-5 271 4.75 2
9 54 Ikaika Alama-Francis DE Hawaii 6-5 290 4.78 2
10 57 Ray McDonald DE Florida 6-4 282 4.85 2
11 70 Quentin Moses DE Georgia 6-5 249 4.75 2-3
12 76 Dan Bazuin DE Central Michigan 6-3 265 4.69 2-3
13 91 Tim Crowder DE Texas 6-4 271 4.76 3
14 116 Ryan McBean DE Oklahoma State 6-5 277 5.04 3-4
15 125 Jay Moore DE Nebraska 6-5 276 4.76 4
16 143 Baraka Atkins DE Miami 6-4 278 4.86 4-5
17 166 Chase Pittman DE LSU 6-5 272 4.84 5
18 182 Brian Robison DE Texas 6-2 265 4.87 5-6
19 203 Noland Burchette DE Virginia Tech 6-2 260 4.73 6
20 230 Xzavie Jackson DE Missouri 6-3 283 4.79 6-7

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Even the last guy on this list was a consistent play maker in college:'s prospect rankings: Inside Linebackers
Pos. Rank Overall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd
1 22 Patrick Willis ILB Mississippi 6-1 240 4.60 1
2 39 *Brandon Siler ILB Florida 6-2 238 4.59 1-2
3 47 David Harris ILB Michigan 6-2 239 4.75 2
4 95 H.B. Blades ILB Pittsburgh 5-11 237 4.69 3-4
5 97 Buster Davis ILB Florida State 5-10 244 4.76 3-4
6 106 *Jon Abbate ILB Wake Forest 5-11 245 4.67 3-4
7 124 Justin Durant ILB Hampton 6-1 235 4.55 4
8 154 Michael Okwo ILB Stanford 6-0 225 4.68 5
9 183 Zak DeOssie ILB Brown 6-4 245 4.62 5-6
10 213 Justin Warren ILB Texas A&M 6-3 242 4.78 6
11 226 Zach Latimer ILB Oklahoma 6-1 235 4.77 6-7
12 234 Blair Phillips ILB Oregon 6-1 245 4.85 6-7
13 266 Anthony Waters ILB Clemson 6-3 242 4.59 7
14 278 Desmond Bishop ILB California 6-2 242 4.78 7-FA
15 284 Kelvin Smith ILB Syracuse 6-2 235 4.74 7-FA
16 292 Mark Zalewski ILB Wisconsin 6-2 235 4.67 7-FA
17 320 Oscar Lua ILB USC 6-1 240 4.73 FA

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 6:51 AM | Report abuse

The guy in the 12th spot here (Michael Allan) looks like a player, a sleeper, and a real bargain - had great work at the combine as well as college stats:

(Yes, these are pre-combine ratings - Miller is falling fast - Olsen looks like the #1 TE)'s prospect rankings: Tight Ends
Pos. Rank Overall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd
1 32 *Zach Miller TE Arizona State 6-5 260 4.79 1-2
2 36 *Greg Olsen TE Miami 6-5 252 4.73 1-2
3 93 Scott Chandler TE Iowa 6-7 268 4.78 3
4 94 Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota 6-7 262 4.83 3
5 111 Martrez Milner TE Georgia 6-4 256 4.63 3-4
6 134 Ben Patrick TE Delaware 6-4 268 4.84 4-5
7 142 Clark Harris TE Rutgers 6-6 257 4.84 4-5
8 153 Joe Newton TE Oregon State 6-7 257 4.85 5
9 159 Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon 6-7 255 4.68 5
10 187 Jonny Harline TE BYU 6-4 240 4.78 5-6
11 209 Anthony Pudewell TE Nevada 6-4 252 4.85 6
12 229 Michael Allan TE Whitworth 6-6 252 4.67 6-7
13 236 Daniel Coats TE BYU 6-3 255 4.83 6-7
14 262 Dante Rosario TE Oregon 6-3 248 4.84 7
15 264 Matt Herian TE Nebraska 6-4 245 4.73 7
16 300 Zach Herold TE Nebraska-Omaha 6-5 262 4.92 7-FA
17 305 Brent Celek TE Cincinnati 6-4 250 4.79 7-FA
18 310 Chad Upshaw TE Buffalo 6-4 255 4.88 7-FA

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and just in case Dockery leaves town for good this weekemd:'s prospect rankings: Offensive Guards
Pos. Rank Overall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd
1 23 Ben Grubbs OG Auburn 6-3 315 5.18 1
2 25 Arron Sears OG Tennessee 6-3 317 5.32 1-2
3 41 Justin Blalock OG Texas 6-4 331 5.25 2
4 67 Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech 6-3 335 5.24 2-3
5 101 Josh Beekman OG Boston College 6-2 315 5.39 3-4
6 114 Andy Alleman OG Akron 6-4 302 5.12 3-4
7 127 Nathan Bennett OG Clemson 6-5 310 5.34 4
8 146 Mansfield Wrotto OG Georgia Tech 6-3 316 5.16 4-5
9 164 Tim Duckworth OG Auburn 6-3 305 5.38 5
10 178 Dan Santucci OG Notre Dame 6-3 300 5.20 5-6
11 188 Mike Jones OG Iowa 6-5 305 5.32 5-6
12 195 Cameron Stephenson OG Rutgers 6-5 305 5.28 6
13 200 Robert Turner OG New Mexico 6-4 318 5.48 6
14 217 Uche Nwaneri OG Purdue 6-3 305 5.30 6-7
15 219 Steve Rissler OG Florida 6-3 305 5.26 6-7
16 271 Kasey Studdard OG Texas 6-2 305 5.26 7
17 288 T.J. Downing OG Ohio State 6-4 305 5.25 7-FA
18 296 Stephen Berg OG Arizona State 6-5 316 5.38 7-FA
19 321 Palauni Ma Sun OG Oregon 6-5 338 5.67
20 326 Corey Davis OG James Madison 6-3 328 5.48
21 348 George Batiste OG Southern Miss 6-5 312 5.18
22 350 Roman Fry OG Clemson 6-4 300 5.08
23 365 Brian Daniels OG Colorado 6-4 305 5.26
24 386 Ryan Keenan OG NorthWestern 6-5 295 5.14
25 420 Cory Niblock OG Florida State 6-4 308 5.24

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Draft is about 8 weeks away, but there were some very impressive performances at the combine, by players who also performed well in college, and at positions of need for the Skins:

DE - Gaines Adams

ILB - Zak DeOssie

CB - Leon Hall

And I know we don't need a safety, but LaRon Landry looked terrific.

(Branch was very big and fast for his size, but not very impressive in drills.)

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 7:04 AM | Report abuse

As for the UFA situation, I still can't see how the Skins have a chance of getting Clements Does Grilliams have something on him from the Buffalo days that will cause Clements to sign for way less than "market value"?

The bidding war for Clements can't be anything but ugly and outrageous. Hopefully NO or Tenn will write a bigger check, and the Skins can invest some of the saved dollars on players already within the organization who are worthy of a raise.

UFA weekend - I don't really want to watch. Maybe Redskins One will be grounded by an act of nature.

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Here's a suggestion for a shirt, Nate:




Next Stop - Cap Hell

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Ocho-Ocho | February 28, 2007 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Ocho Ocho, the best thing about the Prisco article that (1) rips on Mr. Snyder and (2) identifies his behavior as the new norm. My problem with the article is that he only identifies two things that make perfect storm; I thought a perfect storm was the combination of three factors.

On the DEs, I think Carriker is that guy who is not just a speed rusher, but also the strong and big run stopper. The more I think about it, the more I bet he jumps over the other two, esp. if the Skins stay at #6 ... the Skins already have the underweight speed guy on the other end with Carter.

Nate, no need to tool on Pucillo. They guy is a money blocker, plus he moves faster than Dockery. Dockery is the "down hill" blocker (i.e., could and probably should be a tackle). Randy Thomas is the guy to emulate b/c he is faster and nimbler on the pull.

Two more days to find out how Jason did on his on-a-limb predictions last week. So far, he was right on Vincent and Pucillo.

Posted by: dcsween | February 28, 2007 7:48 AM | Report abuse

And we thought there were problems with B Llyod.

Posted by: jm220 | February 28, 2007 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Is there any truth to the rumor that the ACC moved its mens tournament back a week to avoid being in direct competiton with FA pressers coming out of Ashburn this weekend?

Posted by: dawglbs | February 28, 2007 8:37 AM | Report abuse

JLaC on Kornheiser now. Washpo radio dot com.

Posted by: LH | February 28, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

A few things.

#1. No on Clemments. There is no such thing as an elite CB in the NFL anymore. Even the best wouldn't be considered in the top 5, ten years ago. So, get an average CB. and work on your pass rush. That will help turnovers.

#2. Flecther? I guess that's ok. Not really thinking he's the "key". But from what I've read, he's a leader.

#3. Good that they are keeping their blue collar depth. Finally!

#4. The reason the who free agent/cap thing is so confusing when it starts is because talking heads like Peter King and Lenny P. seem to pretend to know more than they really do. Look back at their thoughts before a season and early in a season, then look at how everything has shaken out. They are almost always wrong. Don Banks, the Czar, etc, etc. They all stink. Dr. Z I heard doesn't even watch games anymore. He calls Peter King on sunday nights for a recap. Peter is too busy picking Dallas most years.

Be thankful Washington has JLC who is tough but fare on this team and the league. Otherwise, we could be stuck with a blowhard like the ones as ESPN and SI.

Posted by: AEE | February 28, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

LH not able to get it here at work. (thanks Big Brother)Give us the low down once it is over.

Posted by: jm220 | February 28, 2007 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Jason explained to Tony (who believes Joe is keeping Brunell around so he can play him) Brunell's deal had to be restructed b/c its cheaper to keep him capwise than it is to let him go. He talked about the way the Skins do business - everybody on the team from the WR to the fourth safety (Archuleta) makes the same amount of money because every FA gets the $10 mill signing bonus and 6 yr $30 mill deal. He put it out there that they have been doing the same thing for years and it hasn't worked. The question being is the owner doing this to prove that he can win his way. Said they need to bite the bullet (take a couple of years) and get younger and use draft picks.

Posted by: LH | February 28, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Thanks LH

Posted by: jm220 | February 28, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

jm- nice article... I liked how they used the phrase "dirty laundry" and proceeded to describe Toomer pissing on his wife's clothes. Dirty laundry indeed.

Posted by: Dorf | February 28, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse


Adam Carriker - His stock was already hot after a big Senior Bowl week. Now it is even hotter after an impressive performance at the combine. His shuttle time of 4.18 at almost 300 pounds is nothing short of amazing. The 49ers at pick 11 are showing a lot of interest.

Zak DeOssie - Ivy League invite from Brown helped his stock in a big way. He weighed in at 6'4", 250 pounds and ran a 4.53 40 to go with 26 reps.

I'd love to see both of these guys on the Skins next year. Adam at one defensive end spot, and Zak in the middle.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | February 28, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: Anonymous | February 28, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

How strange. The posts ceased at the stroke of 9:30 am. on the East Coast. Collective guilt attack I guess.

Posted by: Mad Dog | February 28, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

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