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Front Office Rumblings

There are lot of rumors floating around out there right now about the Redskins front office. Some NFL people think The Snyder might finally cut the cord with Uncle Junior/Johnny Drama/Vinny C., and several executives I spoke to from other clubs were just as adamant that he would do no such thing.

I have heard the morale of the Skins scouts is a low, some are fearing for the future and wonder if a major shake-up might be afoot after the draft. There was also apparently an item on profootballtalk.com a few weeks back, speculating that the Skins would go Tony Soprano on their scouts and personnel guys after the draft that sent ripple waves of consternation through the corridors of Redskins Park from what I gather.

To that end, I know of at least one individual who was asked - through an agent - if he might have interest in personnel position of some sort with the Redskins. I have also heard that there is a sense among Washington's pro and amateur scouts that heads might roll. So I gathered a bunch of information to this end over the last few weeks and finally ran it up the flagpole at Redskins Park Monday.

After running it by the organization I was told that the team has no such plans. But it wasn't exactly the most emphatic denial of all time, and I am not entirely sold that at least a position or two in the front office won't open up after the draft. Some in league circles have said that Vinny has told people that he is a little worried about his job security; others say it'll never happen, he's The Snyder's boy 'til the end. One person who used to a key figure in the Skins front office believed The Owner is finally ready to put personal bias aside and get a new head of personnel. Several people who work in Redskins Park said they have never heard a word about chucking Vinny or any scouts in May.

Again, take it all for what it's worth, as no one is asserting anything definite and the Skins are saying no such changes are planned.

I also spoke to a few individuals who, if the Redskins really were seeking a GM/VP of football ops type, would surely be at the top of their list of candidates, and neither heard a thing from the Skins. They were under contract, and perfectly happy where they were, but these are guys who, if the team was really going to go in this direction and were conducting a search, would have to be prime candidates. Also spoke to a few agents who represent lots of GMs/personnel guys, and they had not heard a thing about the Skins actually going in a new direction and ending the Uncle Junior Era.

So, what do I think will take place? Well, I still could see them doing something along the lines of a adding a talented, young, scouting guru from another organization and giving him a promotion here to beef things up. Would they consider a new sidekick to Vinny - currently Louis Riddick - and try to add to the mix? I wouldn't rule it out. I wouldn't even rule them out putting a new face near the top of the college scouting pyramid.

But that's just me guessing based on the scuttlebutt I've heard. Bottom line is there are some edgy people in these parts, which is the way it goes after a 5-11 season with Super Bowl operations. Of course, I also think this is all farcical. The problems in this organization and its lack of a proven personnel leader have been pointed out at great length, and until they correct that flaw I don't expect to see a major turnaround.

Adding some scouts or getting rid of some guys who, at the end of the day, have no voice in actually pulling the trigger as Coach Joe/The Snyder/Uncle Junior call the shots, would be window dressing. Scouts are the lifeblood of any organization, under-paid and over-looked foot soldiers who log crazy hours, live out of a suitcase and get no glory (as a beat schlub myself how could I not relate?). I empathize with their plight and I know the Skins have some very competent scouts in their ranks; it's the personnel paradigm that's awry.

In an organization as top-heavy as this, where glitz and splash have overwhelmed sound thought for so long, could you really blame the scouts of all people? But they are also the first guys to end up taking a bullet when times are tough, hence the worries.

By Jason La Canfora  |  March 19, 2007; 10:48 PM ET
 
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Comments

It must be nice to stay gainfully employed even though your incompetence is apparent to anyone with half a brain. I wanna be Vinny in my next life.

Posted by: JustMe | March 19, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

That is the least informative, confusing article I have ever read. Right when you think you're about to read some news, it is all detracted and hedged.

Where is the inside scoop?

And the UNCLE JUNIOR nickname is just not funny. It lacks any real humor. Not even a good attempt.

Posted by: DCSKins | March 19, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse


jason keeps farting... this blog stinks. Just stop writing. go back to ice hockey

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Dc Skins - first of all, it's not an article, it's a blog, which is an addendum to an article at best. the point is there are a lot of rumors out there about the personnel department, and the skins say it's not so.
i am putting it out there and you can ,ake of it what you will. i kind of think that's one of the cool things about the net, but maybe it just confuses you.

also, the Uncle Junior thing has a real story behind it and has been well documented in previous blog posts. so maybe you just have no idea what you're talking about, and might want to ask before you hate. It's actually not an attempt at all, but something that actually happened.

So recognize, son.

PS - if you say something is not funny, you could probably leave it at that. adding "it lacks any real humor" would be rendundant, right? Not that you don't crack me up and all.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | March 19, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

just kidding love you man

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

JLC, isn't the current line of thought that Joe Gibbs will "kick himself upstairs" to take over the personnel/organizational duties of this franchise in a couple years, while putting HIS coaching staff in place to run the on-field operation? And if so, why in the world would they hire a new personnel guru to replace Vinny? Unless Joe doesn't like Uncle Junior (I don't like that nick either, FWIW)?

Posted by: duck | March 19, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

It would be long overdue for the Redskins to get someone in the personnel department and let them do their thing. Joe Gibbs (I love the guy) needs help in this area very badly. Our putrid attempt to draft over the past 7 years speaks for itself.

Don't give me the Sean Taylor's of the world ..those are no brainers like CJ is this year. I'm talking about building depth on a football team. The track record stinks!

Can anyone say Floyd Reese?

Posted by: UrbanaSkinsFan | March 19, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Yo haters back off! Thanks for updating the rumors...

Posted by: chris larry | March 19, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

sorry, I don't think it's within Snyder's capabilities to make a good hire on the personnel side of the house. the guy wants to set the strategic football direction of the team, and no one worth hiring would come here under those conditions. In fact, I'm still shocked Gibbs has been such a weakling in terms of sticking up to Danny. Anyone who thinks that Snyder is not involved in the football operation should take note of D's recent scouting visit to Georgia Tech.

Posted by: TB | March 20, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Jason -- so do they have to do something to Archi's contract by Wednesday, or will we see another deferral, or will whatever they are doing obviate the $5M?
And with all this maneuvering, can we fill in the blanks that Archi wants out of here more than the FO?

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 20, 2007 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Chris Larry, shouldn't you be out drinking?

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 20, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I would love to see Vinny go, but I just don't see it happening. Jason's more realistic FO scenarios (firing scouts, bringing in a "Theo" to work with Vinny) is better known as shuffling chairs on the deck of the Titanic. Nothing is going to fundamentally change the decision making process until Gibbs decides its time to go (not that I am saying he should go, but we have to live with this).

Posted by: Paps in Manila | March 20, 2007 2:19 AM | Report abuse

So if anyone is reading the posts on this blog, ask Bucktown Skins Fan to reset my posting privileges on the Yahoo bracket. Seems he didn't take too kindly to my humorous reference about Gen Peter Pace. If you saw the subject line, it said "In GENERAL the Terps PETERed out and couldn't keep PACE." I wasn't trying to make a religious, moral, or ethical statement. I was poking fun at the previous posts that created such a riff. Its going to suck winning this whole thing and not be able to brag about it.
If my posting privileges are reinstated, no more GEN PACE comments....honest.

Posted by: protosnot | March 20, 2007 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey all, how did the meeting/drinks with Nate go last night?

Posted by: Lisa | March 20, 2007 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Now you break a story that was already used by another website 2 weeks ago. An insiders job is to tell us something we do not know!

REDSKINS INSIDER, I DON'T THINK SO!

Posted by: nonon | March 20, 2007 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Did Floyd Reese land anywhere? He seems like he'd be a great VP/Football Operations.. Also, what's the logic in doing all of this after the draft? Seems backwards logic (redundant for recent Redskins decision making) to allow a group to pick your future and then fire them.

Posted by: MIA in Miami | March 20, 2007 8:45 AM | Report abuse

protosnot, I'll give you another chance. The fact of the matter is that your "joke" has to do with some seriously offensive stuff to some people. Whether or not one agrees with what he said, it has no place in a random grouping of people trying to have a friendly atmosphere; and neither do jokes alluding to it. Is that cool with you?

Thanks man... no disrespect meant. Just keeping the peace...

Lisa, I felt bad, but I had to back out on Nate. I got my leash yanked... ouch. And by a native Portlander too. You'd think she'd be more understanding... ha ha.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 20, 2007 8:46 AM | Report abuse

seriously, do some people just hang out here to be a complete douchebags? how sad are you man? i think i remember when i first discovered forums and stuff like that i would go in and stir things up every now and then for s**** and giggles but i'm pretty sure i was 16. get a life, get laid, go eat an eskimo pie... whatever it takes...

Posted by: big pisano | March 20, 2007 8:48 AM | Report abuse

big pisano, good call -- utter douchebaggery.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 20, 2007 8:54 AM | Report abuse

about archies deal I heard from Schefter he was getting traded to th bears for a mid round pick this year.

Posted by: chad 89 | March 20, 2007 8:58 AM | Report abuse

J La,

Can you shed some light on why they would make changes after the draft? Is that because they already have so many grades in binders prepared by Vinny and it's too late to change course? Are the scouts contracts tied to the draft?

I do think the Redskins need a change in this department. Your comparisons to the late round "finds" that the Raven's, Patriot's and others make prove the point.

I remember all the years the Bullets/Wizards stunk with Wes Unseld Jr. as the head of scouts. You get a good GM let Grunfeld with his people and suddnely the team turns around. Whatever magic Vinny had in San Fran is long gone.

Posted by: Interested in a change | March 20, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

well it is good to see that snyder might be finally instilling some fear in to his subjects. i think people there have been feeling a little too secure with their positions. there's nothing worse than underachievers with the "what are they going to do? fire me?" mentality.

Posted by: big pisano | March 20, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

What about that Eric cat from the Ravens. Nice young guy learning from Ozzie can't hurt, right?

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 20, 2007 9:04 AM | Report abuse

MIA in Miami --- I think its asking way to much of scouts to fire them through out the season, hire new ones who HAVE scouted through out the College season and have them ready for the combine and ready to draft. So that's why we wait till after the draft then can the bunch. Hire new ones so they know what the scout strategy is and what not.

-- If this happens, I'm down with it. A change is needed, I personally think that this is Coach Joe's exit strategy. Get new peops all around. Start 'fresh'; Hire a new person for the 'GM position' but dont call them a GM. Hopefully it'll be the old Titans GM (Reese?) or the old Pack GM who has a hard on for the skins. One of those to will be a great addition. I wouldnt even mind if they hired a young guy who has a spine that works for someone like the patts, the young up and comer who is quickly moving up the charts.

As for all the RI/ JLC haters out there: Why do you even bother to post or read this? JLC does a kick a$$ job. Is it his job to write about every rumor related to the skins? No. He can't. And honestly he shouldn't. Keep the blog legit, report on stuff that has merit, and kill any rumors that might happen. Not write about random crap that some guy heard from his friend's cousins doctor's great aunt who happens to be the mother of an agent. Leave that for other websites. This blog doesn't need that crap (minus our local cowturds that must post because blogs are not used in dallas because they don't have the internet yet).

Props to JLC and the RI.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | March 20, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

The problem with the Redskins' drafts is they don't have enough picks. They like to give them away like Christmas candy. That they haven't given any away so far this offseason makes me think they are starting to reevaluate how they value draft picks. Another positive change. But they have made some good picks lately. Campbell, Dockery, Cooley. They just need more picks.

And I like the Uncle Junior nickname. FWIW.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 20, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

i, too, am a fan of the uncle junior nickname for some reason

Posted by: big pisano | March 20, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter:

Archuleta is expected to be traded for a mid-round conditional pick that could improve for Washington depending on how well the safety performs. The trade would help the Redskins recoup a draft pick in an offseason when Washington would like to add as many as possible.

Adam Archuleta could be headed to Chicago where he'll be reunited with coach Lovie Smith.
Before Washington trades Archuleta, it is first trying to restructure the safety's contract so as to soften his salary-cap blow once he is dealt. Chicago is the natural landing spot for him primarily because of head coach Lovie Smith, who has coveted Archuleta ever since he took over as the Bears head coach in January 2004.

Smith was Archuleta's defensive coordinator in St. Louis, and believes he knows just how to deploy the versatile safety. It is the reason that Smith tried trading for Archuleta two seasons ago, then wanted to sign him last offseason before the Redskins swooped in with a monstrous record contract for Archuleta.

Smith believes he can help Archuleta return to being the defensive presence he was in St. Louis rather than the disappointment he was last season in Washington. Smith likely would plan to play Archuleta closer to the line of scrimmage, as a weapon against the run, rather than ask him to be a centerfielder against the pass.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 20, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

skinfanman and anybody else, do these two lines from Schefter seem contradictory?

1. Smith ... believes he knows just how to deploy the versatile safety.

2. Smith likely would plan to play Archuleta closer to the line of scrimmage, as a weapon against the run, rather than ask him to be a centerfielder against the pass.

To me, it seemed like Grilliams DID play Archuleta close to the line BECAUSE his "versatility" did not extent to pass coverage.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Where's Charlie Casserly these days -- any rumors on him coming back into the fold?

Posted by: VCURAMS | March 20, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

JLaC, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Why? For packaging it up and "running up the flagpole." Ignore the assclowns here who confuse articles/rumors/bloggery. I have THREE competing theories on the realities here.

Theory One, the "punt kick scare". Got someone who's under performing? Bring in the competition (or threaten to) and watch how performance improves. It worked with Frost, didn't work so well with Hall, but maybe it will work with the talent evaluation corps. Scare them into doing a better job.

Theory Two, "rumor creates perception, perception becomes reality." I've done this at work before. Actually started false rumors (usually in cahoots with an office mate) to see how far and how long they travel. The rumor needs to be plausible enough to be true, and interesting enough to be repeated. [We almost got our boss nominated to a federal judgeship in Hawaii this way.] Right here on RI, Old School has been pushing the "Bobby DePaul" rumor for a while. I like it, so I've been trying to perpetuate it. Its clear (to me anyway) that PFT checks in on the blog occasionally. Maybe they picked up the rumor, which got read "within league circles." Under the adage "where there's smoke, there's fire", some people gave the rumor traction ... it rose to the level of perception. Maybe, in time, perception will become reality. As Walter Sobcheck reminded us in the Big Lebowski, if you will it, you will make it so.

Theory Three, the "accidentally bad rumor just ruins morale, while screwing up an otherwise secret deal." If the Owner really WAS thinking about bringing out the long knives, maybe it would a good idea to keep that secret so that no one knows about it till it happens (e.g., Colts leaving B-more, closing the max security prison in Jessup). Bad morale tends to depress performance (except for punters, see above). Maybe this was the plan the whole time, but needed to be kept under wraps so that the machine functioned smoothly until after the draft, then WHAMO! Unfortunately, the news got out too soon (see the scenarios above). Oops.

Bottom line: Maybe Mr. $nyder just doesn't FEEL like playing racketball anymore.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Moving Vinny over to Six Flags is over due.

Conditional draft pick better equal a 3rd rounder at best and 4th rounder at worst. We need to get a 1st day draft pick out of Archibingus next year.

Don't we play Chicago next year?

Posted by: 4th | March 20, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I found out about drinking NYC meet up to late...see what happens when you take a blogation?!

Is a 4th round pick worth a huge cap hit? At least in the Coles deal we got Sanatana out of it....

Part of me thinks Man Boobs should bury the hatchet and get creative with Arch's talents (whatever those may be).....

You know if he goes to CHX he will be an all pro...

Posted by: chris larry | March 20, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

The way I read the CBA, its the SKINS who would need to re-negotiate with Arculeta (to avoid the deep pain of the cap hit otherwise required in the event of a trade).

I'm attaching a link for those RI peeps interested in detailmania (and otherwise read the fine print on their credit card agreements). See section 7(b)(ii)(1) on p.66 under "Acceleration":

http://www.nflpa.org/cba/cba_pdf/Article_XXIV_Guaranteed_League-Wide_Salary,_Salary_Cap,_and_Minimum_Team_Salary.pdf

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Don't we play Chicago next year?

Posted by: 4th | March 20, 2007 10:17 AM


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Yup. At home.

Posted by: JustMe | March 20, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Wash Times reports in an interview with Gibbs on Monday that it was HIGHLY unlikely to trade Arch but if it happened it would def be with Chi.......

Posted by: 4th just reporting both sides | March 20, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

The skins should switch to a 4-4-3 defense and use Archuleta as an outside linebacker. We need to find some way to use him after paying him all that money.

Posted by: ce1782 | March 20, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Could someone explain the "Uncle Junior" nickname.

Posted by: Jonny-come-lately | March 20, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

dc

love the thesis. Thing about snyder, he has always been the scorched earth like leader, off with the heads of anyone who underperforms, in his organization hasn't he burned thru like 10 vp's of marketing or whatever. So my question is how has vinny, riddick, the scouts etc escape the wrath given the result, we should be on like personnel director number 4 given the danny's track record in business/football no?

leads to second question how did vinny and danny hook up given vinny's history in sf (dismal). Is it more than racquetball?
J lA a little history for the blog who and how did they get together, inquring minds want to know how this love story began.

Posted by: Old School | March 20, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Just popping my head in... and remembered why the RI lost its appeal. Good rumors, too many classless posters that waste their time here being negative.
Jason, keep the ish coming and enjoy your time off with your new baby. Is there any way to get Cindy to set up an email thing where when/if you post a thread, less than loyal RIers like myself can get an email??

For all you regulars that are still around, keep BYGO and ITA.
See you June 1ish.

Posted by: Dorf | March 20, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins Looking in Backyard for CB Help
Based on information received from an NFL source, Washington has expressed interest in an undervalued cornerback in this year's draft? Will they pull off a steal on Day 2? Learn more inside..."

But I ain't paying $10 bucks for it......

Posted by: 4th | March 20, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Jonny, Uncle Junior was a name that J-La threw out for Vinny during one of the first nights of free agency. There was a limo driver who arrived at Redskins Park on the night they were taking Fletcher, Smoot (others?) to a Wizards game. The limo driver was instructed that he would be driving "Mr. Cerrado" (like in the Sopranos), hence, Uncle Junior.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter,
Tell us something we don't already know.
You are the master of the obvious and of old news, and yet you get paid for this type of production?

Hey Skinfanman, thanks for exposing him.

Skins need to look back to that draft in 1981 I believe, and relearn how to trade down and draft well. They traded down and drafted Mark May, Russ Grim and Dexter Manley, if memory serves well.

Certainly someone can google it and report back for us. Maybe Adam Schefter can do some real reporting...

Posted by: Redskin Ray | March 20, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Dorf, set up a Google Reader page [ http://www.google.com/reader/ ] and subscribe to the blog's RSS Feed (orange icon directly below the Preview and Submit buttons).

When a new post goes up, it'll tell you on the Reader page. It's a great way to subscribe to blogs and news sources. You can set up your Google Reader page to be your home page and check in on it every once in a while for new posts.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 20, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Dorf, set up a Google Reader page [ http://www.google.com/reader/ ] and subscribe to the blog's RSS Feed (orange icon directly below the Preview and Submit buttons).

When a new post goes up, it'll tell you on the Reader page. It's a great way to subscribe to blogs and news sources. You can set the Google Reader page as your homepage in your browser and check every once in a while for new posts...

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 20, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Speedbumph gets work in St. Louis. Apparently, he has "good size". Even the reporter in St.L is at a loss to explain why this could be good news for the Rams.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/DC3625DEAD41CDA7862572A40012D963?OpenDocument

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

When Mel Kaufman's playing days were over, I thought he became a scout for the skins. Is he still doing that?

JLC - Loved the information regarding a possible shakeup in the FO. I hope it comes about. This organization can use a new head.

Posted by: Throwback | March 20, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Like the rest of us, I would love to see Vinny fired... but with Snyder still in charge, I just don't see things changing for the better.
It's like when Rumsfeld got fired. Yeah, he was a failure and deserved to get axed, but with Bush still in charge (well, Chenney really) we haven't seen any changes for the better yet, have we?
I think we'll end up seeing some scapegoat get fired in the Redskins FO (our version of Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby, George Tennet, etc), but the shake up will not result in changes for the better or worse.

Posted by: Diesel | March 20, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

did someone deliver flowers, this blog smells great

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have scouts? For what, their 2 annual draft picks?

The way things are run start at the top, and I'm blaming you Danny Boy.

Posted by: J | March 20, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Enough "Blog smells..." comments they are so lame, unfunny and boring!

Posted by: chris larry | March 20, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

dcsween obviously you're not a golfer. Would say more but I don't type on shabas.

Posted by: Skinz | March 20, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is saying that it is the Danny who is not going to fire anyone... well I remember before Gibbs, Spurrier and Even Marty he fired Turner. He gave Turner and long leash and then snapped it shut inexplicably during a late season run.

So Snyder penchant is for rash, snappy decisions. Maybe the fault with all these unskilled people (minus Uncle June)still being around is because Gibbs doesn't have that killer instinct. Now Snyder is stepping in and cleaning the scouting department. And maybe, just maybe he fells Vinny needs to go.. but I doubt that.

Im just sayin is all (worst 'english language' phrase)

Posted by: PDSquared | March 20, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

So what new was just reported in this Blog Post?

BTW, the smells can sometimes be funny when inserted at proper (boring) times.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | March 20, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

So how does a big-time newspaper create a headline identifying the death of a college student at 'Perdue' University? How does this happen?

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 20, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 20, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder loved the Skins as much as he claims, he would try just about anything. Maybe he is at that point.

I am betting that, for the first time in awhile, he is going to show up with no big names, no big dollar signings to crow about.

He will have to sit and watch owner after owner congratulate Bob Kraft on the outstanding offseason the Patriots have had. Smart and prudent signings without breaking the bank OR giving up any draft picks.

Yes, the Patriots are back. A smaller market team, with less revenue, more footbal i.q., more draft picks, more cap room, more of a clue.

We need an owner like Kraft, who knows enough to stay out of the way, hire smart and savy people, like Scott Pioli, and let 'em do their thing. Until Snyder embraces that mindset, nothing will change.

Posted by: k Squared | March 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah nothing like that "Small market" Boston/greater new england area.......

Posted by: chris larry | March 20, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

So what new was just reported in this Blog Post?

Posted by: 4th Floor | March 20, 2007 12:30 PM

4th, seemed like mostly guessing rather than 'reporting' (other than being posted by a reporter), but the information bits seem to have been (1) confirmation of low morale among the talent evaluation staff, (2) not a whisper among the agents of GM/personnel types and (3) tepid denial about it w/in the Park.

[Skinz, SHOMER shabbos!]

Did someone just put on Nirvana? Smells like Teen Spirit.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

K, I agree, so how do we as redskin nation bring about change?

People will always go to the games, they pay way too much and waiting way too long on the season ticket waitlist.

Stop buying the merch? Well I think that is Snyders angle, keep getting free agents and letting guys go to force the populous to buy more and more merch

Really, I dont see Snyder leaving while is is making boat loads of $$. But maybe he will want to win and make smart business moves if we become the laughing stock of the league... oh wait, we already are.

Snyder has little mans disease. Comes to the party (season)with all these flashy things (FA) and really it is all just smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that he is just a scared little boy.

To prove that fact.... My brother was able to sit in the Sky Box adjacent to his with disadavantaged and mentally challenged children. He brought a couple of the youths over to meet Snyder and his wife... She was nice, he did not even turn around to them.

Snyder is a little b#@ch of a man and he needs to go.

Posted by: PDSquared | March 20, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

PDxPD, nice thought, but the one certainty is that the Owner is the owner is the owner. They don't say Hanes until he says they say Hanes. No amount of collective will can make it otherwise ... unless Skins fans hold a HUGE bake sale to scrape together enough money to compensate the Owner for an asset with a huge upside for growth and future earnings.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Way late...been a catatrophic week and im just getting back into things, but to throw in 2 cents...

DCSween, GW used Arch like a centerfielder because Taylor is the play the run guy in his D, he got burned, and such gave up more big plays than anyone in the league. Arch and Taylor play the same style, you just can't have 2 of them in the same defense at the same time.

A Chicago trade would be great, free up money to resign Cooley, BUT he'd have to restructure to keep us from taking a 7.5 mil hit this year we can't afford.

Posted by: allstar | March 20, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

K squared -

From Wash Post. January 8th, 2005:

"What generally distinguishes the Cowboys, Patriots, Redskins and a few other franchises from less well-off teams is that they play in new stadiums in big, wealthy markets with loyal fans."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A57668-2005Jan7?language=printer

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Easy call. Get rid of the scouts. Who needs em? Skins sign big free agents that dont produce and a monkey could do that for bananas. And you dont need college scouts unless you have draft picks. Scouts are just dead weight. Save the $$. Now how 'bout that burger at Johnny Rockets. mmmmmm good.

Posted by: AL | March 20, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

PDSquared- I'm making the one man stand by not renewing my season tickets. Anybody else out there done giving danny boy their money?

Posted by: 4-12 | March 20, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I wish not renewing season tickets would help, but there are only about 200k people on the season ticket waiting list...

Posted by: Chris | March 20, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

So they say Chris, so they say.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 20, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe its bad form to repeat something from the WaTimes on a WaPo blog, but Ryan O'H this morning, in that article about Gibbs had this to say:

"While the Redskins still might sign some second-tier free agents and cut former starting receiver David Patten to create more salary cap room, the training camp roster basically is set."

This was not attributed to Gibbs himself, so I don't know what to make of it. Does it mean the Skins FO really does view the draft as a luxury? If so, maybe they DO go after the "best player available" at #6 ... or that, if they trade down, they go after a guy just b/c they like him, not b/c they need him (hope springs eternal for the LaRon Landry fan club). Alternative theory, esp. if it is a Gibbs' sentiment, is that they are maintaining smoke and mirrors to mask how desperate they are for the draft and/or to unload some guys for cap reasons.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

What JC article in WashTimes? Was it only in the printed version???

Posted by: charlie | March 20, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

DC -

My sense is that the quote was referring solely to the free agent/roster purge process, i.e., there won't be any additional (significant) signings or cuts. There is always going to be room at training camp for rookies, both draft choices and undrafted FAs.

It may also be part of the greater disinformation program currently in action, as you alluded to. (So much was made of Snyder being at the Johnson workout last week; very little was mentioned about the Skins defensive line coach being at the Anderson workout at around the same time.)

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

4th -

Save your $10. There is a certain NCAA-affiliated school in P.G. County that occasionally produces decent talent. They have a defensive back who has gotten very little press but has decent skills, great speed, and significant potential/upside. But it will be a Cole day in hell before I tell you anymore than that.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Fire me. I deserve it.

Posted by: Cerrato | March 20, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

charlie, the JC article is on the WaTimes site, but you need to go to the bottom of the sports page to find articles from previous days. The JC article was yesterday (Monday) and the title is something about a working vacation or school in session or something like that.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

And now, from the first day at the Steelers' OTA -

. . . According to Wilson, Tomlin said "You can go train in Orlando or you can go train in Arizona where it's a nice climate, whatever, but you can't get out of those places what you can get here and that's football." . . . (some wire service or another)

Different strokes and all that. Guess they won't be wanting to trade for Clinton or any of the U Gang.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

dc

I think that is largely true don't see adding or deleting much except maybe to bring a few camp bodies in. if we can deal arch, but i think that is unlikely.

Gibbs has said before he likes the guys on the team and he thinks we have most of what it takes to be successful.He has not been for the most part the kind of coach who could to use a basketball analogy.. go to a playground where there are like 25 guys, watch a little warm up, shoot around and then pick the best 5 and run the court all day. More likely he would have get down and dirty in the games with them for while get a feel for them , then at the end of the day he would definatly pick the best 5..not neccessarly the most talented, but the best team playing together.I think judging people collectively is his skill (team building) is his greatest skill which is different from talent evaluation.

Posted by: Old School | March 20, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Mole, you told me everything I need to know, wink wink, plus the guy sounds like one of the types of the guys the Skins are always looking for ... the next Devin Hester.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I saw him and thought that's who it prob is. I only search the free sites, like this. So, I must spoil even though it shouldn't be a surprise

Late Rounder - Josh Wilson (had a pretty good carrer) from Hyattsville....

Posted by: 4th | March 20, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Spoilers.....

24 Posting

It got a little better last night, but I don't think the season can be saved. The Vice Prsident acts like the VP in real life, it seems. We all know Audrey isn't dead. She is being held by the Chinese or Americans. Ofcourse the only Muslim person isn't the spy. She can be easily spotted that way. Richie Rich is an a## hole who prob will be kilt in the last 12 hours.

That's it for right now......

Posted by: 4th | March 20, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Expanded version of that WT blurb -

"While the Redskins still might sign some second-tier free agents and cut former starting receiver David Patten to create more salary cap room, the training camp roster basically is set. Washington has just four picks in next month's draft, although trading down from the sixth choice overall for more selections remains a possibility.
Gibbs said he expects cornerback Shawn Springs and defensive ends Phillip Daniels and Renaldo Wynn to remain in Washington despite their inflated cap costs. Safety Adam Archuleta, a free agent bust in 2006, also isn't going anywhere barring the unlikely event of a trade with Chicago, which wanted him before he signed with Washington. Archuleta's $5 million guaranteed bonus for 2007 is due tomorrow."

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I have some advice for Danny boy. Remember it is important to have an owner that the local and Owner community loves. Look at me. I am well loved by the league and other owners...Wait a minute, maybe it's because I don't make waves and havent produced a winner in 30 years. I have to go tinkle. "UNSELD..Help me up."

Posted by: A. Pollen | March 20, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

A. POLLEN? Does that mean you are allergic to winning?

Hint: if you are going to spoof someone, at least spell the name correctly.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I'd cut Springs, Wynn and Daniels. Teams cut their old, cap inflated under performers all the time. Gibbs is SOOOOOO hung up on core redskins players, but we keep letting the young core, the ones who might still be here in 8 years, go via free agency.

It makes no sense to me. We keep the over the hillers and they retire... what good are they to the team then? If we had not picked up some of those guys, maybe Pierce, Champ (I know he wanted to leave, but we could have paid to keep him) etc.. would be here and be here for a while building that 'Core'.....

Posted by: PDSquared | March 20, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

4th, 4th, 4th, which part of "Cole day in hell" or "wink wink" wasn't clear?? Where's the drama? intrigue? Where's the RI peeps' research project? Now Denver is going to sweep in and ruin it like everything else! Sheesh! [wink wink]

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Someone should send this guy a list of the Ten Worst FA Signings by the Redskins. Maybe he won't feel so bad.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=579275

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

On the topic of the Donkeys, another gem from the Simpsons after Scorpio gives Homer a professional football team:

Homer : Aw ... The Denver Broncos !?!
Marge : I think owning the Denver Broncos is pretty good.
Homer : Yeah, yeah.
Marge : Well, explain to me why it isn't.
Homer : You just don't understand football, Marge.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

dcs,

Thanks - found it. (A Working Vacation)

Posted by: charlie | March 20, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

get back to work geek

Posted by: bob f | March 20, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Mole. I am in my eighties and just getting the hang of this "interweb" thing. Besides, I am recovering from a broken hip...cut me some slack. For the record, yes I am allergic to winning among other things. Unlike Danny Boy, I caved when their was pressure to change the name from the Bullets-to the Fantasy figures of the "Wizards" so I guess you can say I am allergic to tradition. Got to go. Time for a fresh diaper. "UNSELD..Bring the Nappies!!"

Posted by: A. Pollin | March 20, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

mole did you sh** yourself again or was it chris larry this blog really stinks?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

From LaCanfora's post yesterday -

" I am keeping my eye on a few other things as well, which I am not prepared to write about just yet but which could turn out to be quite interesting, "

Knowing what the Skins have done in the past, doesn't this statement constitute "overly broad and generalized"? As we all know, given Snyder's money and Vinny at the wheel with Gibbs navigating, the realm of possibilities is bounded only by the salary cap. Logic and reason? Out the window.

Hopefully it will be something more inspiring and imaginative than St. Louis signing "Speed Bump" Rumph.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

NFL New-Speak:

We signed Mike Rumph today = Our current salary cap situation is very bad.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

from the Washtimes article -

"The bonus for Campbell is that for the first time in seven years, he will not start the offseason by getting to know a new coordinator and cramming to learn a new playbook. Saunders' system -- along with the usual tweaks -- will remain intact, which is an immeasurable benefit for all parties."

Hmmm, if he was that good with a new system every year that he played in college - and as good as Brunell last year - well, this year's looking real good.

Also, bravo to the Post for making the links open new windows on this blog.


Posted by: charlie | March 20, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Hysterical......

Posted by: chris larry | March 20, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Its about time that Snyder's frat buddy loses his job. How many years have we had to deal with this joke!

Posted by: rich | March 20, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

A. Pollin -

You should have taken the big leap with the name and selected "Sea Dogs".

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Hi PAMF! How's your miserable little life today?

Just as smelly as usual, apparently. Gee, too bad.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

charlie -

Don't be fooled by that new blog feature (opening new windows). It only does it some of the time.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Hysterical......

Posted by: chris larry | March 20, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone read the Boswell piece on Peter Angelos of the Orioles? Really depressing stuff if you are an O's fan. I sure hope Snyder isn't using Angelos as a mentor.

Posted by: The Mole | March 20, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The guy is no secret. Denver already drafterd 2 of his teamates so they got local scouts.

I know we are experts in all. But, never will we scoop a football team not named the Redskins. The pros are the pros are the pros.....

Posted by: 4th | March 20, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it opens windows all the time for me - even when I hit the Submit button which I hope they will fix.

Posted by: charlie | March 20, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Peter Angelos is a complete boob.

Posted by: "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan | March 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Do any of you guys know who the Skins travel to play this year and who travels to FedEx? (aside from the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles obviously)

Posted by: Chief Clancy Wiggum | March 20, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Wiggum, the NFC North comes to FedEx field, the Skins travel to the AFC East, plus Skins go to Tampa Bay and Arizona comes to FedEx.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

gripe about si.com ... they list the Pro Days (and include writeups) for Whitworth, Elon, and Ouachita State, but they leave out the University of Maryland.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

DIESEL, you are spot on!!! This reminds me exactly of our current government in the executive. Danny Boy is Cheney(never really talks, almost pure evil, will shoot you in the face if he needs to), Gibbs is Bush (southern twang, uses the same rhetoric over and over and over again...Gibbs is a 100x better person though), and Vinny is Rumsfeld. If Vinny gets axed, they will just bring in another hench man to keep the damage going. I love Gibbs as a coach, but get out of the personell department!!!

Posted by: Macaca Johnson | March 20, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the info.

Posted by: Chief Clancy Wiggum | March 20, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Macaca J: if Vinny = Rummy, then new GM = Gates, meaning an elder-statesman type who is at least competent, although thoroughly unexciting.

Posted by: derek | March 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Out of the NFC North teams, TB, and AZ...have any of them seriously upgraded through FA this year?

Posted by: CC | March 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

PDSquared, I am so GLAD you are not making the decisions for our team.

Posted by: Lisa | March 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

cc

its all year to year Tampa's got like 6 QB's Arizona is always the team to watch out for....like every year since the moved to the desert. We have had a quite (relatively) off saeson if can get throught the draft without a big shambingus who knows. I not sayn'

Posted by: Old School | March 20, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Mole,

Thanks for the referral to the Boswell article on Anglos. He has certainly ruined the Orioles, and I don't think he will change. George Steinbrenner (sp?) used to be the same way but finally learned his lesson. I don't think the Orioles have a chance of being good until they get a new owner. I just hope Snyder learns how to be a "good" owner.

Posted by: Mark | March 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean that I'm Alberto Gonzales?

Posted by: Gregg Williams | March 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

CC (is that Pink C.C.?),

Arizona picked up a good center, but unless they get smart in the draft, they still seem to have OL problems.

TB, the quarterback store, picked up an OK DE (Chukwurah ... sp?) and Luke Pettigout, but they also come back without Kenyatta Walker and parted ways with DeWayne White (DE), but I think they need to pay attention to their OL.

Chicago added nobody, but lost their D coordinator and Thomas Jones (and who knows about Lance Briggs' ultimate fate).

Green Bay, no significant changes.

Minnesota, replaced Jermaine Wiggims with Shiancoe (who has essentially been in Shockey's shadow), so I dunno. Their center left.

Detroit has added and dropped thousands. Added: Tatum Bell, TJ Duckett, and DeWayne White (DE from TB), but dropped Marcus Pollard (old but formerly very good TE) and replaced Dre Bly with Travis Fisher, but they also should focus on their OL.

One of these years, Arizona is going to be good (esp. w/Leinart, Edge, and the WR pair), and Tampa Bay is -- to me -- the Skins new nemesis, but I don't think anyone has done startlingly well in free agency. The only team that had its thinking right was the Bills. The foundation of any good team has to be the O-line. W/o a good O-line, no yardage plus your defense gets tired.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Gregg Williams... Not sure if you're Al Gonzalez, but I do believe you when you say you thought you would be greeted as a 'liberator' by our defensive players.

Posted by: Diesel | March 20, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Manboobs, you are NOT Alberto Gonzalez ... you are that guy who used to be in charge of FEMA.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

1) Skinz, I don't handle money, I don't drive a car, I don't turn on the oven, I don't answser the phone and I sure as snyder don't friggin post! Shomer Shabbos.

2) The unparalleled choochiness of Peter Angelos is astonishing. Be thankful he doesn't own the skins. Seriously.

3) Do not sleep on Ricky Stratton. Silver Spoons will die doing something heroic just like Rudy did. And you KNOW THIS MANNNNNNNNN.

4) JLC, you cannot let the hecklers and non-believers get you down. You can taste the ignorance and regret off the posts. We'll handle the riff raff down here in the comments section. You can just keep dropping tight knowledge. To quote Acie Law IV: "That's what I do!"

5) I would like to see Junior reassigned. The dude is good at signing people. I just don't want him to be the one making decisions. He is like a dog: 'Vinnie, go get 'em'...he'll go get him

6) Congratulations on all your success, this blog smells terrific.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | March 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

But you 'roll' on Shomer Shabbos, right?

Posted by: Chief Clancy Wiggum | March 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

Aside from cutting your favorite-- average and forever injured, Springs, what does PDSquared suggest that is so objectionable?

Retaining young and emerging talent....is how you build a core, not picking up older, slower, little left in the tank castoffs, which is how things have gone of late.

Posted by: k Squared | March 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

just heard Michael Smith on ESPN say that he'd love to see the REDSKINS trade up and get Calvin Johnson. would make the Skins the most feared offense in the NFL.
wow, the more i think of it, it would be amazing.

Posted by: k-man | March 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

k Squared, 'average and forever injured' ... but nonetheless our most important defender, as evinced by the huge dropoff when he was off the field last year.

Vote NO on Calvin Johnson or any other first-day pick that ain't a D lineman!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

if this is a move on the front office, why hasn't happened as of yet, and if they were planning on doing it, it would be smarter to do it after the draft, and if you want a GM/vp of football operations here is a name to consider John Schneider, personel analyst to the GM of the packers
he learned, under former general manager of the packers. I had another name as a GM/vp of football operations ,but he's gone to another team Mike Reinfeldt.

Posted by: armen | March 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Nate, Springs is our most important defender? What?

The huge dropoff you witnessed, was based on the severe misjudgement of depth. Kenny Wright and Mike Rumph...we know how that went. Yet, they will let Walt Harris roll out, because he was not that good, right? Went to sh*tty S.F., had like 8 picks (more than entire Skins secondary), and made the freakin Pro Bowl.

My point....if you are not smart enough to know what you got and who should be retained, how can we expect them to know who to keep, who to sign, and who to avoid?

Corners, good corners, are hard to find, everybody knowns that. Springs' better days were and are behind him. The FO should have known that, known he was on borrowed time and spent more money and attention to the secondary, not adding receiver after f n receiver.

Posted by: k Squared | March 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Aha! So you're admitting that there was a huge dropoff when Springs was out! Aha!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 20, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Anyone up for a burger and fries?

Posted by: JJ | March 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Nate, you got me.

BTW, I neglected to mention the best defender is some guy named Taylor, that I have heard mentioned a few times here.

Posted by: k Squared | March 20, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

We've had the conversation up here about not trusting the front office brain (ahem) trust with any draft picks or other add/retain/drop decisions, based on their recent history. We've had that conversation for the past eight months or so, since Jason started the blog.

Does any of us believe that this offseason's supposed fiscal restraint and responsibility would have occured if we had not been up against the '07 salary cap when free agency opened?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 20, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I know SeanTay is the BEST defender, but my pathetic argument was that Springs was the most IMPORTANT defender last season. Two different things.

Look, I know I don't add very much to the blog, and I have almost nothing to add to the conversations, and I know next to nothing about the football, but usually people will humor me to some extent. k Squared, that's all I ask.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Worst D in the NFC... Franchise Lows for sacks and turnovers...
Heckuva job Manboobs!

Posted by: El Presidente | March 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

k squared

we have a grand total of 3 young and emerging players
Campell
Taylor
cooley

Posted by: Old School | March 20, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Old School, I don't think you give enough credit to Golston. It WAS his rookie year and, under the circumstances, his performance seems both up and coming.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

k and nate

both right. depth is most important on defense. the reason is almost all the d players on your roster play.. play alot and play a critical times. example if the other team is dowm by 3 late and go 4 wide, your 4th or 5th corner is now on the field or its 4th and goal at 1 youtake your light (carter) de out and put your third dt etc etc. not to mention the normal rotation all teams use, specialist etc not mention an injury. Point is on d especially your only as good as your 4th corner # 3 de dt etc cause these guys are gonna play. On offense your third or forth lineman play if there is an injury...big diference if your have good luck, but you don't rotate your left tackle every series to him some rest.

we have already improved the depth on our team by removing Holdman, rumph,wright and bringing in the candlestick maker and smoot

Posted by: Old School | March 20, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

The skins should hire Ted Sundquist. He's already familiar with using their picks.

If the skins were to go offense with their first pick (trade or not) I'd love to see them get Johnson. They'd probably score 35 a game while giving up as many.
Of the top possible picks, the kid from Wisconsin sounds like ideal "core redskin" material.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2802182

I know - he'd be a luxury they can't afford - with all their other needs

Posted by: skinswest | March 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

who farted this blog stinks?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

The Reaper is not; let me repeat, IS NOT OUR BEST DEFENDER.

What games were you watching last year? He averaged 1.5 personal fouls/game and averaged getting 'burnt toast' 2.5 times/game.....

Posted by: 4th | March 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

NateinthePDX - Yup, there was a huge dropoff until Springs came back. But I think it was more the fact that having Springs back meant you didn't have Two-Wrongs becoming your 2nd corner, and Speedbumph sitting in as nickel, with Prioleau out for the season. Two-Wrongs & Speedbumph - poor bastards got dropped into a ridiculously complex defensive 'system', and spun their wheels the entire time they were here.

Not to take away any good qualities from Springs, but that was a pretty strong reason for the upturn. He was pivotal in making sure we got to keep the CB core relying on the husk of the crop.

Posted by: FlimFlam | March 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

dc

Golston is a good find, lets see if his game goes up a level then we have something...Personally i think he looks like a solid 3rd or 4th tackle thats it.

its pretty sad when we have to highlight him as a shining example of our front office prowess in the late rds.

Posted by: Old School | March 20, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Er, that should be, "He was pivotal in making sure we got to keep the CB core FROM relying on the husk of the crop."

And 4th - The reason why Sean Taylor wasn't as sparkly neat as he has been was because he had to cover up for everything that got by the rest of the defense, which was pretty much everything. Sean Taylor-Norris jokes aside, he is only one guy to offset the shabiguing perpetrated by others.

Posted by: FlimFlam | March 20, 2007 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Old School, nice job. That was sort of my intent, to say that we need depth, quality depth, in order to overcome injuries, and for situational substitutions.

If we must insist on playing defense, devoid of impact players, we sure as sh*t better be deep enough to rotate a mediocre talent base.

Posted by: k Squared | March 20, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

beep beep new post

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

btw, over at the ES blog, they are loving this J-LaC post. Not a ton of Vinny fans there.

Posted by: dcsween | March 20, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I have wondered for years why The Danny hasn't revolutionized scouting. Kind of like having 30 coaches isn't covered by the cap, we can have as many scouts as we want.

He could hire a permanent scout for every Div. 1 school and still not spend as much as he does for one crappy FA. We can out-scout everyone for nothing more than Danny's lunch money.

Of course, this assumes we actually have draft picks and a FO staff who can collate all the info coming in...

Posted by: Meatsnack | March 21, 2007 5:13 AM | Report abuse

I will continue to make great trades. I think Archuleta for a 6th round pick was great. Brandon Lloyd will pan out just like Dieon and Bruce Smith. I am the greatest!!!

Posted by: Ceratto | March 21, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

J La-C,

My theory is Gibbs stays on as GM once the winning starts again, appoints his successor as his first GM duty -- then, maybe Vinny gets the boot.

Of course, the problem is -- what if the personnel decisions are so screwy there is never a winning Gibbs II organization? Eventually, Gibbs is going to throw in the towel on the whole deal.

However, I am not completely convinced that the Skins are far from being a winning team now. I think they may be one dominant pass rusher away from the playoffs at this point. If they get lucky in the draft with someone akin to Jevon Kearse for the Titans in 1999, I think many of the other pieces are in place.

The secondary really had bad luck last year. Springs and Prioleau go down straight away. Harris, who was not great as a Redskin, makes the Pro Bowl as a 49er. Rogers regresses. AD stinks it up. Taylor misses having someone tell him what to do. Etc.

This year, we'll have Fletch acting as Field General for the D a la Pierce in 2004. Prioleau and Stoutmire will be back at Safety to direct Taylor, possibly joined by Springs who moves to Safety. Vernand Fix will have another year in the system.

Lemar Marshall moves back outside where he belongs, and McIntosh rolls in.

Carter was making strides at the end of the season. Golston was coming on strong.

Smoot is back, and is better than Rogers at 2, and certainly better than Wright at nickel.

One energetic rookie at DT or DE, and the defense could be back to top ten. Then, the offense will only need to score 21 points per game, or so, and the Redskins are playoff bound again.

I also think Lloyd will come on this year, Moss will be back, and Cooley is going to be the new Gonzalez, as the last games of the 2006 season foreshadowed.

In spite of personnel moves that can flatteringly be called inept, the team could do all right in 2007.

Posted by: McRib in Lubbock | March 21, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

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