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Front Office Shake-Up

Well, looks like the reshaping of the Redskins organization under Vinny Cerrato is nearing its final phase. The team has finished purging its staff, from its coordinators to scouts, to the pro personnel director, to the medical team, to its head of security. And, starting tomorrow, the Redskins are expected to begin the process to fill the remaining voids in football operations and complete Cerrato's support staff.

The recent release of Louis Riddick opens up a significant position, and Cerrato will no doubt look to find a replacement soon. The Redskins could begin interviewing candidates as soon as Wednesday, league sources said, expected to contact a handful of current experienced NFL scouts to eventually hire as the new director or pro personnel. The Redskins also have a vacancy for a pro scout following Terry Ray's firing, and have a vacancy for a director of college scouting as well after Scott Campbell was promoted from that job to become director of player personnel, making him Cerrato's number one lieutenant.

That's three important holes to fill. Riddick's release was the most profound, however. When the team began to fall apart in the 2006 season, amid a flurry of failed trades and signings, team sources said a chasm began to form between Riddick and his mentors - Cerrato and owner Daniel Snyder. There was lots of internal fingerpointing, then team president Joe Gibbs came very close to making major changes within the front office, nearly making a major hiring that could have left even Cerrato without a job, sources said, and chasms formed.

Cerrato's reputation was poor among that coaching staff - a fact that rang clear in the "Problems At The Core" series of articles the Post did at the end of that season - but Riddick was generally held in higher esteem, coaches told us at the time, and still do now. Riddick, a former NFL defensive back, also took on greater duties under Gregg Williams's defense, and Williams ended up fired by the Redskins after an ugly end to his candidacy to be Gibbs's replacement. Riddick went from a potential shining star in the organization to getting the boot after seven years here, a fairly shocking turn of events over the last 18 months or so.

(I am often asked about Doug Williams, former Skins Super Bowl QB and a personnel executive with Tampa Bay, in terms of the Skins front office. I get emails about it all the time. The Redskins have never asked for permission to interview Williams throughout this entire offseason, and right up through today. Williams has never received the impression he was on Snyder/Cerrato's radar, according to league sources, and, again, the Redskins are expected to hire someone with a much more diminished profile to replace Riddick, likely someone currently with a scouting title and not an executive.)

Under Gibbs the offense made very little use of the Redskins' advanced scouting work, according to team sources, (the consistently uneven performances of the offense may have had something to do with that). The defense, however, incorporated the work of the scouts heavily into game planning, team sources said. Riddick and the pro scouts would detail reports on the opponent each week and on Wednesday - the start of the NFL in-season work week - Williams would turn over the floor to Riddick, players said.

The entire defense would meet Wednesday morning and Riddick would get the first 10 minutes or so to outline the report on the opponent, detail some tendencies and pinpoint a few weaknesses. (Former offensive coordinator Don Breaux is among those expected to do more advanced scouting this season). Some believe Riddick's prominence may have been perceived as a threat to Cerrato - that theory is making the rounds in NFL circles, and though I have not talked to Riddick others who have say he was given no explanation from Cerrato or Snyder for why he was let go.

Whoever replaces Riddick will work directly under Scott Campbell and will head the pro scouting efforts. On the college side, the Redskins could opt to promote an existing scout to become director of college scouting - who would, again, report to Campbell - and the Redskins also have a vacancy for a college area scout following the passing of Mike Faulkiner in January from pancreatic cancer.

While the Redskins have long spend records in spending on coaches and players, their rep around the NFL in terms of scouting and front office staff is for the just the opposite, Under Snyder the big money has stayed at the top and the Redskins were woefully thin and under-represented in the scouting ranks as recently as 2004 (Gibbs immediately bolstered that staff, reinforcing the importance of the in-the-press-box eyes and ears of the organization throughout the NFL and college ranks). They traditionally pay their scouts less than most other clubs, several league sources said.

Working for Cerrato carries risks as well - he is viewed as Snyder's guy around the NFL, sharing an unusually close relationship with his owner, and is not considered the kind of exec who would be assured of immediate quality work with another organization should things crumble in Washington. So tying your future job prospects to him is a gamble, because this business is all about brining your people with you to the next destination ... assuming there is another NFL destination.

In the end, though, Riddick's title alone will be allure enough to many people, and the Redskins brand still carries some cache. They will have no problem finding candidates interested in the 3-4 positions needing to be filled as the Vinny Cerrato Era continues to unfold.

By Jason La Canfora  |  May 13, 2008; 10:16 AM ET
 
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Comments

BONG!

Posted by: Leevi | May 13, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

GLOOM DOOM and conspiracy....I thought this was a Redskins Insider...not Redskins Hater

Posted by: Leevi | May 13, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for that. Concise and makes sense. Good job JLC.

Posted by: RedBee | May 13, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Leevi - wow - I didn't see JLC's post as that at all. It was good analysis of what happened and why, showing the recent history of the man, the position and coaches views of how to use him and/or the position.

I don't even see it as really busting on VinnyDAN. I am in favor of VinnyDAN hiring people he wants and firing those he does not. Let the front office have one voice and one planner, with the provisio that he is held accountable for the results.

It is pretty clear that JLC would not have chosen VinnyDAN as that guy, but since I would not have either, it does not bother me.

Posted by: RedBee | May 13, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I think the Cardinals or the Chiefs just fired a bunch of scouts. Hopefully, The Owner and/or K-Ninjerrato would instead look to hire guys out from under Belichek/Paoli or Polian ... or one of these teams that doesn't ever seem to have depth problems.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry about Leevi. He's just trying to make his quota of anti-Jason comments so Snyder pays him the entire fee.

Posted by: Scienceguy | May 13, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I hear a very good scout by the name of Matt Walsh is looking for a Job. He is very handy in the video dept.

Posted by: mattwalsh | May 13, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Anyone want to take a blogbet (payable in bonus points) that Riddick's next job is actually a step up rather than lateral?

Also, my guess from the sounds of Jasno's thread is that Grilliams' might sing loving praises of Riddick. I get the sense that Grilliams' is respected around the league and that having his recommendation probably helps lots.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

DC, I'd take you up on that bet, but I'm not ready to move on from the pain of my previous experience with "bonus points"....

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I like how most people who have left the organization have kept pretty quiet about their (assumed) disdain for the way things are run in DC.

Maybe they didn't have such a bad experience here. Resume building perhaps?

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

This post could have been titled the chronicals of Riddick

Posted by: 35332 | May 13, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

For the 1000th time, Jason's job is to report what's going on. If we as fans don't want to hear it then, don't read.

As usual this was an insightful, well written, and extremely informative post. All is not great at the Park, that does not me we can't love our team or stay fans.

Posted by: PSUAsh | May 13, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm, let's put the sofa here, the computer over there, and the plasma...oh, hi! Just getting ready to move in. Nice blog you've got here.

Posted by: Barry Svrluga | May 13, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

a good read.

im sure many will question these moves, but its very very VERY important that this front office click. even when the great joe gibbs was here, as JLC pointed out, the FO was dysfunctional and people in the FO werent getting along.

Its not a knock against riddick, but this is vinnys show and he can't and shouldnt be expect to keep around a guy who is going to create problems... even if the problems arent riddicks "fault."

as far as riddick being fired by campbell and not vinny or danny... its campbells JOB to fire Riddick as his direct superior. i've been laid off before and i wasnt told by someone 2 or 3 rungs up the ladder. i was told by my direct manager. thats how businesses work. riddick was - and should have been - fired by campbell.

the only thing that bothers me about the skins here is not paying the scouting personnel well. there is no salary cap for any of these jobs so we should be competitive here. if we want the best of the best throughout our organization, then we need to make sure we attract the most talented personnel by paying the big bucks. dannys got the money and he needs to spend it on these guys.

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 13, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Some of the pickins left in free agency:

http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story?id=09000d5d8083d384&template=with-video&confirm=true

I had forgotten about Mike Doss being available. I remembered about Takeo Spikes being there, but the pile of corners and defensive ends seems to have been picked clean.

Interesting Casey Husband article about LB Matt Sinclair on the Skins site today. Sinclair (like Kevin Huntley) is another of my secret hopes to make the roster.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

What's with the Barry comments? Did I miss something? I love the informative nature of his blog, but the jibba jibba is lacking and can be dry at times.

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

DC, I'd take you up on that bet, but I'm not ready to move on from the pain of my previous experience with "bonus points"....

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 10:53 AM

Greg,

Take the bet. Here's your chance to unload your bogus points on an unsuspecting gull. Worse thing that can happen is you win and double your number of bogus points, but twice nothing is still nothing.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

though I have not talked to Riddick others who have say he was given no explanation from Cerrato or Snyder for why he was let go.

By Jason La Canfora | May 13, 2008; 10:16 AM ET

Given the proper chain of command, there is no reason for Riddick to have received an explanation from Cerrato or Snyder. Campbell has that responsibility.

I bet when LaCanfora gets canned by the Washington Post, CEO Donald Graham won't be providing the explanation.

Posted by: Chain of Command | May 13, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Svrluga, welcome to RI! Have a seat, grab a vowel, make yourself comfortable.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"brining your people" - I thought brining was something you did to pickles. Maybe some prefer salty people.

Posted by: Mark in 21132 | May 13, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Viva Vinny!

It 8 years after we've had 2 winning records and 3 head coaches, maybe he'll be fired too. MAYBE.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | May 13, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Dorf- I think its just someone being silly

Posted by: 35332 | May 13, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Thanks to our glorious leaders we march unimpeded towards triumph.

Malingerers and malcontents must be rooted out to ensure a continual march forward! Jackals may bray, but they will be found out and destroyed!

Onward! We move ever onward!

Posted by: farstriker | May 13, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

RI-4

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 13, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I like how most people who have left the organization have kept pretty quiet about their (assumed) disdain for the way things are run in DC.

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 10:57 AM

Publicly complaining about your boss is never a good way to find a new job, especially in a tight, closed community like the NFL. You can do it in private, but if you do it in public you become radioactive and no one will touch you.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I'm not threatened. I don't think Cindy is into internet reporter guys. I think she may be more of a young middle school teacher kind of gal.

I

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

farstriker, I thought jackals howl and donkeys bray.

In other news, we "self-regulate" up here ...

http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&aid=134330

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

In all fairness to Snyder, there seems to be a madness to his method...

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 13, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

I like this part:

"Polite and profane, pithy and unending, profound and pedantic, comments are a reflection of the community."

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 13, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

After being sick this weekend, I am glad I didnt miss any news on the skins front. I did see where Rabach went swimming on the flooded field!

C&D, two posts ago you mention Chia being arrested in Derwood. What you know about DERHOOD?

Posted by: Zebra | May 13, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Also this part:

"Time-outs aren't just for children."

---------------------

CL?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 13, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

No truth to that scurrilous rumor concerning my alleged arrest in der hood; never left my der sill.

Having said that, you certainly don't want to mess with the Montgomery County po po.

no no to the po po!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 13, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

someone put extra miracle-gro in Chia Pet's water

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

So Chia, you are from the hood... nice so am I.

Was C&D from there too, or did I miss the convo where he knew thats where you were from?

Posted by: Zebra | May 13, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

BTW
http://www.nfl.com/

vote for the NFC East champ... we are last with 10%, cowboys on top and two others have 17%

Posted by: Zebra | May 13, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

That link on blogs you supplied above is just chock full of interesting:

"If you want your comments section to be self-regulating, build a community."

-------------------

Self regulating sounds so draconian. I prefer to think of it as winnowing the chaff from the wheat.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 13, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

someone put extra miracle-gro in Chia Pet's water

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 11:38 AM

----------------

Just plain water would be a nice start.

Posted by: C | May 13, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Per blogger known as "bigfish":

If you're from the "hood" then you don't have the intelligence to blog.

In other words you're too hood to blog.

Posted by: Red (I'm so Hood) | May 13, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Barry Srvluga will become a skins' beat reporter.....

Posted by: 4th | May 13, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I like the idea of bringing in a "football" guy, like a Doug Williams. It's much easier for them to get "inside" info from other teams on our upcoming opponents, since many of these guys are also "football" guys as well. Good work JLC!!

Posted by: CLEGG | May 13, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

For everyone that is upset with the annual preseason power rankings (What else is new and power rankings in PRESEASON are a joke anyway), don't be.

I would prefer to be favored to finish last in my conference, than to receive the national media handy-dandy job. (See 06' Redskins)

Posted by: Red | May 13, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I like the idea of bringing in a "football" guy, like a Doug Williams. It's much easier for them to get "inside" info from other teams on our upcoming opponents, since many of these guys are also "football" guys as well. Good work JLC!!

Posted by: CLEGG | May 13, 2008 11:48 AM

Doesn't this cut both ways? If it's easier for them to get information from other "football guys" then doesn't it follow that it's easier for other "football guys" to get information from them?

Why don't we just hire Sherlock Holmes? Not a "football guy" but good at getting information where no one else could.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

How long has Doug Williams been a black personnel exec?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Why don't we just hire Sherlock Holmes? Not a "football guy" but good at getting information where no one else could.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 11:54 AM

I'm partial to Perry Mason, Matlock, or Columbo, myself.

Jake and the Fat Man could also be serviceable here.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Hi My name is skippy and I have a metal plate in my head. I live in a doublewide with Mama and the twins of my dead sister. My best friend is Floyd, the truck drivin' man. I really really like Lemon Meringue Pie.

As Skippy has always been forthcoming, sometimes even fifthcoming on the Bog, he feels constipated to retort that he has been contracted by Vinko Cerrato to fill one of the available personnel vaginas at Redskim Park.

When axed what quantificates him to be a "D" wrecker of Player personal, Skippy was forged to reply: "No sir. May I have a mother, sir."

In other words, Skippy has had no experience in football manglement, in personal evacuation, crap manglement, or other football related activitaries.

For most of his life, at least of which he has lived to date previously, Skippy has been a homebody, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Mr. Vibrato told Skippy that it didn't matter if he was quantified, that he was merely looking for a figurine to have on foot to fire when things went down the capper.

So right now Skippy's agent is in serious regurgitations with the front orifice at Redskim Pork. The pay is good, discussions are moving sideways curnently on working conditions. Skippy never wants to have to leave his trailor, which apparently is not a meal braker.

But Skippy is afraid to look Mr. Vibrato in the eyes. He has very very scary eyes

Fondly,

Skippy


Posted by: Skippy | May 13, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

...the Fat Man could also be serviceable here.

Posted by: | May 13, 2008 12:00 PM

Fat Man was the atomic bomb that Maj. Charles Sweeny dropped on Nagasaki, killing 30,000. Let's save Fat Man for when it's time to blow the team up, like if Coach Cowher takes over.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Skippy,

Can you help Greg figure out what to do with his bonus points?

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Its hard to know who's responsible for what, but with the last several free-agent signing periods and drafts its good to see somebody is getting the axe. Whoever decided to draft FB Manuel White with DE Chris Canty still available should have been fired. Whoever decided to give Archuleta and Brandon Lloyd big contracts and signing bonuses deserves to be fired.

You can't know who decided what, but some heads definitely oughta roll.

Posted by: rb | May 13, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Nice Post,

Any past questions concerning Cerratos ability as an exec will be answered in the next couple of years.

There have been several nice posts concerning the Skins front office lately. Nice job.

Regardless of the outcome several of the Skins recent moves AND their draft I have liked. I think the have about 2 years left with their o & d lines so major concentration of resources need to be spent in that direction in the future....

Cerrato has made huge mistakes in the past lets see if he has learned anything. I thought they handled themselves very good with the draft.....

Posted by: apb5919 | May 13, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

"... I prefer to think of it as winnowing the chaff from the wheat."

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 13, 2008 11:42 AM

Yes, then we bake the bread, and serve up a lovely whole-chaff bread RI sandwich.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Its not exactly a power ranking, but the teams (other than the Skins) that I think will have a better record next year than they had this year are the Saints, the Panthers, and the Jaguars. The teams I think will have a worse record are the Cowboys and the Packers.

Also, post-draft and post-undrafted FA pickups, this guy has the Giants over the Skins by 8. Vegas has Giants by 4. This is a game to get money on NOW. People forget that the Pats-beating team were themselves HUMILIATED at HOME in 2007, Week 15.

http://walterfootball.com/picks.php

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

ta, that was low...that was a straight shot right in the cookies....I KNOW how to redeem, or wager even, my bonus points. You just have to, I mean, I just need to figure out where they can be redeemed, I mean, sure its been confusing at times, but I know what I'm doing.

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

This post reminds me of an irony that's always bothered me--it's rare for a lifelong fan of a team to actually become the owner. In that instance, you would think Snyder would be more inclined to embrace this team's rich heritage and hire some of these old Redskins to bring things back to where they should be.

Before I go on, let me say that I'm not claiming it's the answer or even that it would undoubtedly work. But when you have pretty good personel guys like Doug Williams and Martin Mayhew out there and a solid head coaching candidate like Russ Grimm out there, you owe it to yourself to give those guys a chance. Even if you decide to go in another direction, they should at least be talking to these guys. Instead Snyder is handing the keys to the organization to guys with ties to a regime in direct competition with the Skins throughout the 80s (the 49ers).

There's nothing to lose in my opinion. Worst case scenario is this team goes back to it's usual arbitrary slide between 5-11 and 10-6. But at least you're doing it with YOUR guys.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 13, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

If true, it's an interesting revelation that the offense didn't fully utilize the Skins intelligence assets. Makes me wonder if Gibbs didn't trust the accuracy of the information and believed the offense coaches could do a better job simply by reviewing tape...

Posted by: Siris | May 13, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I just need to figure out where they can be redeemed

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 12:35 PM

You can redeem them anywhere, or everywhere, provided that you present your credit card when you're redeeming them. You should redeem some to come to the big shabingus meet-up in June. As many points as you've got, your can probably pick up the tab for everyone. Sweet.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"There was lots of internal fingerpointing, then team president Joe Gibbs came very close to making major changes within the front office, nearly making a major hiring that could have left even Cerrato without a job ..."

Perhaps this led to Joe's resignation?

Posted by: JR | May 13, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Good call.

Hey everyone, please feel free to use my 'bonus/bogus points' at the June meeting. Please also make sure to purchase some rancid food, and feed it to ta for his comments above asking skip to help me with my points. Don't let him know you're doing this, by the way...

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

This post and the previous one? Riddick-ulous.

Nice to see the good-natured banter of yore making a comeback, even when it's manifested as Greg trying to plot giving t_e food poisoning!

Incidentally, have you considered selling your bonus points on eBay Greg? I bet there are some RI-ophiles out there who would just love to get their hands on such limited release RI-related memorabilia.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 13, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

If you want a lemon meringue pie, I think Skippy can get your points cashed in for you. And if he takes that job with Vinny, he might be able to get you a new Skippy jersey or some of the discontinued jerseys -- Lloyd, Archuleta, Ramsey.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Please also make sure to purchase some rancid food, and feed it to ta for his comments above asking skip to help me with my points. Don't let him know you're doing this, by the way...

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 12:56 PM

I don't think it will work. talent evaluator makes Rasputin look like a hypochondriac.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

More awful speculation from Jasno.

This guy is the worst reporter at the WaPo.

I knew when this story broke Jasno would be back to insert his hatred of the Skins into the story.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

True sween. It's often said, or maybe I made it up, that talent_evaluator is even harder to finish off than Hillary.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 13, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

That was some classic Skippy...accept no substitutes.

LMGO

Posted by: stumped | May 13, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Always skeptical when someone writes about how an organization works ...

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 13, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

How does one check their points balance?

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Greg will know Dorf, he's an expert in the points system now, he told us so earlier.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 13, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

If true, it's an interesting revelation that the offense didn't fully utilize the Skins intelligence assets. Makes me wonder if Gibbs didn't trust the accuracy of the information and believed the offense coaches could do a better job simply by reviewing tape...

Posted by: Siris | May 13, 2008 12:43 PM

I agree 100%. And I believe they could do better. Gibbs had some good game plans, butthe execution wasn't the best. Whose fault is that? I don't know......

Posted by: 4th | May 13, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Beantown has corrupted him. His heart is twisted and self serving. Its a natural side effect of the northeast.
Don't trust others so easily. You of all people should know that.

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

C&D, two posts ago you mention Chia being arrested in Derwood. What you know about DERHOOD?

Ummm, nothing at all. Just a random town name that seemed to fit.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 13, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

C&D, two posts ago you mention Chia being arrested in Derwood. What you know about DERHOOD?

Ummm, nothing at all. Just a random town name that seemed to fit.

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 13, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The Spaghetti Gang is in charge. They should look at the track record on personnel recommendations. There is plenty of good and bad over the last 4 years. Including recommendations that they chose not to pursue. How did they fare?

The people who judged talent more effectively, stay. Those who messed up more often than not, gone.

Gibbs 2.0 did upgrade the team talent, though it was a lot of '2 steps forward, 1 step back'. The bonehead moves were breathtakingly bad.

The Spaghetti Gang has lots of information to judge performance -- none of us, including JLa, know how well each individual did.

Which brings me to the last point. Does anyone think that is the way the Spaghetti Gang operates?

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 13, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I would have gone with Chiapas, cload.

http://www.travelchiapas.com/

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

CONTINUITY!!!

Posted by: pulldownclaw | May 13, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

PROCESS!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Or this place, Chia-yi, on Taiwan.

http://www.tbocc.gov.tw/en/Introduction_2.asp

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

From Nate's first link:

THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU

Sometimes when you make a transfer you are literally let off in the middle of no-where. This can be a desolate stretch of highway miles from any town or main highway. You can be all alone. The bus you are waiting for can be late or broken down at the side of the highway.

Finally the bus arrives but it is totally packed and you have to stand up near the front door, which is left open because it is so hot inside. There is not a single person on the bus who speaks English and you cannot for the life of you pronounce the name of the place you want to go too and you lost your map back at your last bus-camp.

You are surrounded by a group of old ladies dressed in traditional Huipils. They are not impressed with you. You gaze out the window trying to appear not out of place in this scenario hoping that you will see a sign. It gets dark and there are no lights. The bus hits a pothole and the front right headlight stops working. The old ladies are talking, you know they are talking about you. You smile, mumble some incomprehensible words, your charm is ineffective here. Finally one of the old ladies smiles at you and says something. The other ladies laugh, you laugh.

Posted by: stumped | May 13, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

So it's kind of like RI then, Stumped?

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Sorry peeps,
That last comment was so creepy it seems to have broke the blog.

Let's try again, this is also from Nate's last link:

I scatter flowers of war,
I of the smiling face
For I come with war.
I am the quetzal and
I come flying.
Through strait ways,
I come with war.
I am the beautiful
black bird with
the red neck,
I come flying: I come
to turn into a flower,
I, into the
bloodstained rabbit.
Look at me,
I'm serious now;
gird your sides.
I, whose eyes wink,
who goes smiling.
I come from within
the flowered courtyard.
Look at me, I mean it;
gird your sides.
I'm going to turn into a
flower,
I, into the bloodstained
rabbit.

Posted by: stumped | May 13, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

The reason the ladies are not impressed is because they don't know you blog on RI

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 13, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Snyderrato will...
Snyderrato will...

ROCK YOU!

Posted by: Jimmy Tango | May 13, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a great place. Does loco have a weather report for us?

Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Dorf | May 13, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Firing Terry Ray is the last straw for me. I'm going to become a Ravens fan. They're a classy organization. You can tell from the moment you walk in the front lobby. I wonder if there's a "Ravens Insider" blog. I won't even have to change my "RI" tattoo.

Posted by: P Diddy | May 13, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Chiapas is like the Derwood of Mexico.

Also, per Cooley, Boschetti (aka Boss) is a savvy gambler:

http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

stumped, what's so creepy about a blood-stained rabbit? Look at me, I mean it!

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Random town name!! You don't just stumble on Derwood. Ya gotta know where to look. Basically Shady Grove on the north, Reland on the south, between muncaster and 108 on the east and 355 on the west.

Biggest landmark, Shady Grove metro baby!

Posted by: Zebra | May 13, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't seem like Chiapas is really a party place...

(Good one Nate, I have had that creepy feeling up here many, many times. I'm sometimes very happy this is a virtual cocktail party and not a real one.)

That bus ride is my new happy place.

Posted by: stumped | May 13, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It's often said, or maybe I made it up, that talent_evaluator is even harder to finish off than Hillary.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 13, 2008 1:11 PM

It would only be true if I were able to lend myself $6.5 million.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

It would only be true if I were able to lend myself $6.5 million.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 1:55 PM

That's the kind of financing that led to Hershel Walker's diagnosis.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs is out Cerrato is in, so Vinny is going to shape the staff as he see's fit. Jason does not like Snyder or Cerrato, so every move is going to be spun negatively based on conversations with "league sources". Of course Cantreporta's sources work for teams that are competing against the Skins and have ample reason to stir up trouble.

Help, Barry Svrluga, we need a new Redskins blogger!!!

Posted by: PowerBoater | May 13, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

sween,
Tell me that bird doesn't make your skin crawl.

Posted by: stumped | May 13, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

ah, yes, redeeming bonus points. While I cannot tell you how to, where to, or anything else, what I can tell you is how NOT to do it.

Do not do it at a random gas station, without any cash, or credit cards, and minus your pants.

They do not know about bonus points, nor are they willing to research them.

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

You don't just stumble on Derwood ... Biggest landmark, Shady Grove metro baby!

Posted by: Zebra | May 13, 2008 1:54 PM

Biggest landmark in Chiapas, the bus stop on the roadside in the middle of nowhere.

Don't look at this guy ... I mean it ... at least not until you are safely off the bus.

http://www.crystalinks.com/quetzal.gif

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

sween,
Tell me that bird doesn't make your skin crawl.

Posted by: stumped | May 13, 2008 2:00 PM

Nope, but this does ...

http://pbskids.org/dragontales/coloring_book/coloring_images/images/dt_quetzal_printable.gif

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Greg - I think sween or Redcoat or whoever was on to the key to your bonus points redemption.
I think you can get Skippy to give you a lemon meringue pie in exchange for Bonus Points.

I personally totally agree with Skippy - I love pie and I LOVE lemon meringue pie.

Posted by: sfskin | May 13, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

sf, would you trust a guy with a metal plate in his head to make you a pie? I mean, going to a gas station sans pants is one thing, but a guy with a metal plate making food is COMPLETELY different.

No offense to those other than skip with metal plates in their head....ta looking in your direction....

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

That's the kind of financing that led to Hershel Walker's diagnosis.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 1:59 PM

And many of us on RI share his diagnosis: multiple posternalities.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Do you guys remember last year around this time the word/rumors coming out of the Park was a big front office shake-up? It never materialized.
Maybe this was it and St. Joe put his foot down last season so it was a no go.

Now it's a new day and a new sheriff in town K-Ninjeratto.

I say - this is actually a good thing in that now it is the Ninjerrato show 100% so he will get the accolades and he will get the blame. The question is does Monsignor Snyder have the wherewithal to give his racquetball buddy the boot?

Posted by: sfskin | May 13, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Ah but Greg here is the key - get the pie and pass it on to the person of your choice . . . not namin' names but just sayin'.

2 birds, 1 pie

Posted by: sfskin | May 13, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps you could lend yourself 6.5 million RI points as a start t_e?

That ought to buy you a seat at the big table. Who knows maybe even 'with beer'.

The wife of a good friend of mine describes lemon meringue pie as 'her passion'. If you'd ever met her, you'd know how much of a passion-killer her remark is.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 13, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

making fun of herschel walker isn't funny. are you that desperate to get a cyber laugh, okay here:

:-)

are you happy? go get some new material. this was a VERY POOR attempt at humor.

Posted by: You're not funny, jerkoff | May 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

2:34PM, point well taken (and, yes, unfortunately I am that desperate). I regret starting up the Hershel Walker stuff and thought about it for a half-second before I posted ... but had a failure of self-regulation. My bad. Agreed, bad taste.

Posted by: dcsween | May 13, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how you interpret this post as axe grinding, but whateves...we all have our frames of perspective....

F time outs...

Greg, did you cash your BP in for a Manny HR?! My fantasy team thanks you!

Posted by: chris Larry | May 13, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vinny and Danny Hot Monkey Sex | May 13, 2008 2:33 PM

Cant we leave the monkeys out of this?

Posted by: Zebra | May 13, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

BOOFER = One of the RI regulars, or a collection of a few "faithful regulars". Created as a troll to make Dallas fans appear to be unitnelligent, or otherwise dumb.

not guy = every poster that is aware that not guy does in fact exist. he is you. we are him. moniker usually is exercised when someone posts something they don't agree with.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Zebra | May 13, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Redcoat | May 13, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

cl, you asked for some help, I tried to help.

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

@sween


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here you go!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

NAte - What's 'no lanyards' mean?

Posted by: 4th | May 13, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

No offense to those other than skip with metal plates in their head....ta looking in your direction....

Posted by: Greg | May 13, 2008 2:16 PM

No offense meant; none taken. The metal plate is handy for sticking pens, pencils, tools to my head with magnets.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 13, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

There should be a shake-up in the owner's box. This franchise is doomed until that twerp sells the team.

Posted by: A Fish Stinks from the Head | May 13, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

How do I get me some bonus points? I'd love to get a new Brunell Jersey!

Posted by: tigerjag | May 13, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Frankly,
If Vinny has really been given the reins of this organization and the responsibility for its success or failure. Then he should have the staff he wants here to get the job done.
Gregg Williams and Riddick didn't fit that plan. Zorn and Campbell do.

If we fail then Vinny should go. period. Now there is no triumverate of Gibbs/Snyder/Cerrato for fans to question "who made this move?". It's on Vinny now.
Hopefully in 2-3 seasons we'll be praising Cerrato and not blasting him for his work as our "GM"

JLa,
Keep doing what you do.
I don't always agree with you and yes there is the occasional anti-Redskins bias here, but if I don't like it, I don't have to read (there are a few writers on this site, ESPN and SI I don't read b/c of their BS takes on the Redskins) it anymore or I can complain about it here or another site.

But I think normally this is fair takes on the Skins and it's good to hear various points of view on the team I love.
HTTR

Posted by: Walking Deadman | May 13, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Would offense not using his scouting mean he was not good that that.

If he was a D back that would make sense.

People get hired and fired all the time. If things are as bad a Jla says I am sure we will see it on the field next year. At least the duo have stopped bad mouthing people on their way out.

Posted by: mul | May 13, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

>I bet when LaCanfora gets canned by the >Washington Post, CEO Donald Graham won't be >providing the explanation.

hahahaha

JLC(drama queen) too much speculation, too little facts. We don't know the details of everyone's role in all this so until you do why not at least keep your speculation a bit more objective rather than your clearly redskins front office hating stance.

I guess dramatizing every little thing helps sell newspapers or blog hits...weak

Posted by: fan | May 13, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

so another Canfora article bashing the front office. Did Snyder pee in your cereal this morning?

Posted by: Vishal | May 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato has demonstrated he is one of the most incompetent execs in professional sports in Europe and the Americas. He doesnt need anymore time. He plays pick up the bar of soap in country club locker room and at Redskins Park w/ Danny Does anyone believe that if Danny was forced to sell the Skins Cerrato would keep his job or get another one on the NFL? Please get real deadskin fans. You are stuck with one of the most incompetent owners in pro sports. It aint going to get any better.

Posted by: Cerrato's wife's gigolo | May 14, 2008 6:28 AM | Report abuse

From Cerratos Blog Oct. 4 2006 on the Redskins Web site.......
"If one of our players gets hurt Sunday at a game, the coaches, the head coach, and I will talk to the trainers and doctors after the game. On Monday, we will sit down and decide if we are going to need a guard or tackle or whatever the position is that gets hurt. I'll talk to Louis Riddick, director of pro personnel, first thing on Monday morning........On Monday, Louis will get with his staff of Pro Scouts and they will discuss who those guys are and will watch a little more film on them. Once they cut it down to a couple of guys, they will call the agent, set up a trip, and get them in here Monday night....This is an ongoing job continuing on from the preseason. The pro scouts are going to all the team's preseason games, evaluating guys that are on the bubble and that may get cut. When guys do get cut from those teams, we go through the tapes to rank and grade them to create an emergency board. From there, I'll go to Louis. Louis does a great job of getting the right guys - quality guys - in here. They've done an outstanding job over the past couple of years bringing in talented guys." ........Reactions......?????

Posted by: po403 | May 14, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

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