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Frustration Over Poor Effort

Coach Jim Zorn expressed his frustration about the poor effort many of the team's young players exhibited in last week's 23-0 loss to the Baltimore Ravens.

Zorn was especially disappointed that players competing for the final few spots on the opening-day roster failed to seize opportunities in the preseason opener. The Redskins host to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Saturday at FedEx Field, and the coaching staff hopes its message is now clear.

"Progress happens, sometimes, in little steps," offensive coordinator Sherman Smith said. "I just look for progress. Are the guys going to progress? Do they make the same mistakes in Week 2 that they made in Week 1? If they do that, well, then that may be telling you they can't play.

"So we expect to see them make progress. We talk to them every day about, 'Seize the opportunity. Seize the opportunity.' Some guys just don't get it until it's too late. They don't get it until they're standing outside 21300 Redskins Park [Dr.] and they can't get back in. Then it is too late."

The coaching staff was pleased about the offensive line's performance in pass protection. The first-team unit had struggled throughout camp against its defensive counterpart, but fared well in its two series against the Ravens.

Ravens pass-rush star Terrell Suggs did not play, but the Ravens still provided a good test for the Redskins' line. The Redskins tweaked their pass-protection scheme in the offseason to take some of the load off quarterback Jason Campbell, and their new approach was effective against Baltimore, Smith said.

"These guys feel real good about our protection scheme," Smith said. "When we did it, we told them it was addition by subtraction. We took some off the quarterback, but now we put more on the backs.

"Now, the backs are more involved. I always joke about the linemen having a certain five and the backs having the rest of 'em. That's kind of a philosophy that a lot of teams have. So we're doing a good job of protection. We really are."

By Jason Reid  |  August 17, 2009; 7:00 PM ET
 
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First, but not last.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 17, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

hyemp

Posted by: BMACattack | August 17, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but did the Ravens even try to get to our quarterback? I've watched football for 40 years and the only time I saw the Ravens try to get to Jason Campbell, they got to him on the poorly thrown pass that went to the sidelines on his last series.

I'm not impressed at all with the blocking for the run either. I seriously doubt that offensive line could have done any worse blocking 80 year old defensive players.

Posted by: laserwizard | August 17, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure you're right laser, defensive linemen usually just stand around and let the quarterback do whatever...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Y'know, laserwizard, I didn't see the "game," but since I've seen repeated mentions of the blitzing the Ravens did (one of those mild no-nos of preseason fubbal, as I understand it) up here and elsewhere, I've been under the impression that they were trying to get to our quarterback.

But maybe their blitzes had another purpose... something more nefarious, perhaps. Maybe something we'd never guessed a blitz could be used for... could it be?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 17, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

On my browser's tab, the title of this thread is truncated to "Redskins Insider - Frustration Over Poo."

Heh heh heh.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 17, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Big excitement on the Nats blog as they countdown to midnight when Strasburg turns into a Nat or a pumpkin.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 17, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

This blog post gave me a bad case of déjà vu.

I even hit f5 to try and clear the cache.

Anyways, I heard the game on the radio, so to speak. But I've heard that our O.L. was fine (here and from the coaches) and that it was horrible (from Sonny J.).
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 17, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

This blog has gone downhill FAST. It was a great source for Redskin info...
...now it is just random thoughts from some Trojan fan trying to meet his daily blog quota.

Posted by: TossedSalad | August 17, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

The Giants are so well coached. It's going to be a tough opener for the Skins.

Posted by: TWISI | August 17, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Havent seen Philly or Dallas yet but the G-men look pretty solid tonight.I concur with your sentiments TWISI.

Posted by: mark65 | August 17, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

First, but not last.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 17, 2009 7:11 PM

Last but always will be first to read it!

Posted by: RedCherokee | August 17, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY S. email ADD ?

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 17, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Do any of you guy's have Marty C. email ADD ? talent_evaluato,RedCherokee,TWISI TossedSalad,fthethunderdontgetya

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 17, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY S. email ADD ?

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 17, 2009 9:14 PM |

And with this post, I bid you all a goodnight.

Posted by: TWISI | August 17, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY S. email ADD ?

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 17, 2009 9:14 PM

I got it! Marty's email is:

GoFireYourself@ByeBye.com

Posted by: RedCherokee | August 17, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Its:

ur_a_d-bag@pissoff.com

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

OK...I'll pile it on...

Marty's email:

HaveNoJob@IDontWinPlayoffs.net

Posted by: p1funk | August 17, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY S. email ADD ?

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 17, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Somebody do the world a favor and remind Brett Favre that the longer you play past your prime, the farther you get away from the HOF.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

weneedanothercoach@likeaholeinthehead.org

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Somebody do the world a favor and remind Brett Favre that the longer you play past your prime, the farther you get away from the HOF.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:34 PM

6 TD passes in a game last season actually pushes him closer.

Posted by: RedCherokee | August 17, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Twisi

"The Giants are so well coached. It's going to be a tough opener for the Skins."

Bro', their defensive line is like six-seven dudes deep.

And their offensive line blocked the snot out of the panthers alleged good defense.

They got a bunch of dudes who'll together get as many catches as Plax and Toomer used to by themselves.

And they still got Jacobs.

Yeah: Mr. Medium had betta get the skins goin. Skins v. Jints is an early proving ground game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

I really don't think the offensive line played that well. They didn't run block and guys were getting through, although JC got rid of the ball quickly enough where it didn't matter. How can you say anyone on offense did well when they punted nine times? That's like telling the Captain of the Titannic his ship sank, but you managed to save one of his life rafts.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

remind Brett Favre that the longer you play past your prime, the farther you get away from the HOF.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:34 PM

or the Farver from the HOF.

It was like Gibbs said at the start of 2.0 -- "I hope they don't take my bust out of the Hall and melt it down."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 17, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

redcherokee

"6 TD passes in a game last season actually pushes him (Favre) closer."

Really?

Talk to them j-e-t-s' players about the picks he tossed that kept them out of the playoffs last year.

Favre needs to sign his retirement papers and get a job advising Sarah Palin about career management and death panels.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

tossedsalad

"This blog has gone downhill FAST....it is just random thoughts from some Trojan fan trying to meet his daily blog quota."

I understand your anger, Mr. tossedsalad man.

I hate quotas like you hate stray pubic hairs.

And I too agree the Trojan commentary doesn't feel natural.

But as for the random thoughts, well, perhaps some dude needs to have his mind elsewhere while doing something real nasty, something which, you might be able to understand.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeah: Mr. Medium had betta get the skins goin. Skins v. Jints is an early proving ground game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

proving what? we got smoked last year, then went 6-2 then fell on our faces. No matter what the score of the week one game the Giants are a better football team than we are period. Injuries dictate everything pretty much for any NFL team, if we stay healthy we can play with anyone but top to bottom our roster is at best mediocre, the problem with the Snyder era, behind the starters/big names there is little talent. Most teams couldn't handle their top qb going down (the Pats did alright though) but at almost every other position there shouldn't be a huge drop off if the #1 guy goes down. Until Snidely figures this out we're destined for our consistent mediocrity.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 17, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

What a game, the Ginas vs. the Panties. That rookie running back from Carolina looks decent. did I just see a
Monk jersey?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Somebody do the world a favor and remind Brett Favre that the longer you play past your prime, the farther you get away from the HOF.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 9:34 PM

Moe, whatcha smokin brah? Favre - as annoying and tired as his flakiness is getting - is a mortal LOCK for the HOF. He could come back, throw 20 pickles to 4 TDs, go 0-8 and retire midseason and he'd still not be in any danger of not being a first ballot guy.

Anyone watching the Giants-Panthers? This Mike Goodson dude looks pretty impressive. 6 foot, 215 lbs and runs a 4.5....sounds like a sleeper to me

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 17, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

LMG--The sense in which Moe has a point is that you can't be voted on until five years after you retire. If Favre retires when he's 58, he can't go in until he's 63.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 17, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I think I just saw Geisinger in there too.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Jason

tell us some about Antonio Dixon. He was definitely a bright spot in the game last thursday. How has he looked in camp, what do coaches say, and what are his chances to make the team and the DT rotation?

Thanks Mayor

Posted by: tm1135 | August 17, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Been looking at the Giants, Carolina game, the Giants are young, stacked along the Dline, deep at most positions, and once again, YOUNG. The Skins really have their work cut out for the opener. You can look at the players on the sidelines, the coaches, everything and everybody looks more proffessional, the Giants look and play like a football team run and coached by pros who know what the hell they're doing. The Redskins have a long way to go.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 17, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have a long way to go.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 17, 2009 10:38 PM

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Amen.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 17, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Been looking at the Giants, Carolina game, the Giants are young, stacked along the Dline, deep at most positions, and once again, YOUNG. The Skins really have their work cut out for the opener. You can look at the players on the sidelines, the coaches, everything and everybody looks more proffessional, the Giants look and play like a football team run and coached by pros who know what the hell they're doing. The Redskins have a long way to go.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 17, 2009 10:38 PM

That's funny because just a couple of years ago everyone wanted Coughlin's head. They all talked about how unprofessional he was and that the players couldn't stand him, the fans couldn't stand him etc. Funny what a few good seasons will do for what most called a bad coach.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

72redskins

"...the Giants are young, stacked along the Dline, deep at most positions, and once again, YOUNG."

Blame Floyd Reese.

He's something called a general manager.

His job is to keep turning over the roster while keeping the dudes who produce paid and happy.

One thing a good general manager does is prevent the team from re-doing deals which forces it to keeps guys who should be cut in favor of younger, cheaper players.

All of the above explains why the skins are old and lack depth: the team has no talent savvy general manager.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I will say one thing about Vinny since "he took over the operation," we are getting younger...remains to be seen if that means better...maybe not so much this year. Gibbs was the architect of our age problem.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I heard a report the other day that the so called "successful" teams don't build through the draft as much as most think. We actually have more home grown (drafted) players on our 52 man roster over the last 2 years (and headed that way again this year than the Pats, Steelers and Ginas. The Colts are built more like ours (draft wise).

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Take a glance at the photo of J Ried at the top of the web page.

Is it me, or does he really look like Uncle Phil from "The Fresh Prince"?

Perhaps he did time as his stunt man.

Speaking of cluelss stunts, the NFLN screwed the pooch when it hired J Canfora to replace Adam Schefter.

But that's another discussion.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

The weakness of the Giants is their quarterback. Manning is inconsistent and you never know when he is going to cough up a stinker. The guy can look great in one game and awful in another. I think the way to play him is to hit him often and rattle his cage. The Redskins have the tools to do this. Unfortunately, the Washington defense doesn't have an offense that is going to rack up many points - especially against a very stout Giants defense, so what could turn the opening game for the Redskins is a pick or fumble that the defense takes back all of the way.

AND I agree that they have done a much better job assembling talent than the Redskins.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

You know, looking at how much the Giants substitute players on defense, maybe the Redskins should experiment with a hurry up offense for use in that first game. The Giants' depth on the defensive line is taken away if they cannot make their substitutions...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Been looking at the Giants, Carolina game, the Giants are young, stacked along the Dline, deep at most positions, and once again, YOUNG. The Skins really have their work cut out for the opener. You can look at the players on the sidelines, the coaches, everything and everybody looks more proffessional, the Giants look and play like a football team run and coached by pros who know what the hell they're doing. The Redskins have a long way to go.

Lets be real here , after what I have seen We are not going any where

Posted by: suliman007_4 | August 17, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

ZORN's demeanor near the end of the RAVENS game does not instill confidence in this upcoming. Kind of looked like a man resigned to a sound whipping. Not like last year at all. There's a lot in body language.

JEREMY JARMON is a keeper, absolutely. Does a player have to clear waivers to be placed on the practice squad? He needs to be coached up on the REDSKINS system since he has NO prior experience. But the 'SKINS already have DANIELS, WYNN, CARTER, JACKSON, and ORAKPO part-time. Is there room to carry him on the 53 man? If so then DIXON should go to the practice squad. He had some good plays. I think either ALEXANDER or MONTGOMERY might be the odd-man out of the DT rotation. We're getting pretty deep with real playa's along the d-line. Too bad the same can't be said about the offensive line.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 17, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

The Giants look like a well-oiled machine. The kid from UVA, Sintim, is in the ilk of Uminyora and Tuck. I think they're planning to use these guys creatively on the defensive line, which will wreak a lot of havoc on our pass blocking schemes.

The opener is going to get ugly for the Redskins. I honestly don't think our O Line can block that group, unless, we institute a drastic measure, like the Wildcat maybe?

My prediction is that we're going to flip flop scenarios with last season, where we started strong and fizzled toward the end. This year it's going to be the opposite, albeit, with a game improvement in the Win column.

Posted by: SmashMouth | August 17, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Again the panic. The jints are among the best teams in football. With one glaring weakness at WR. Which isn't going to show until they play in the regular season.

The Skins will get better. Last year they laid an ugly ugly egg vs the jints on opening day (kinda like they did vs the Ravens last week). Then won 6 of 7.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 18, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins have a long way to go.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 17, 2009 10:38 PM

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Amen.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 17, 2009 10:42 PM

I second that Amen.

Posted by: Gman4 | August 18, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I say the "SKINS have to have double-digit wins - minimum to salvage ZORN's job. No question in my mind it's on the line.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 18, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

I know Cindy monitors this blog so...

Cindy Boren: Do they not have Kool-Aid in New Orleans? (May I suggest a delicious Hurricane? Oh, wait, you don't need any more depressants.)


Apparently hurricane jokes about New Orleans are okay now. I guess enough time has gone by...

Posted by: skins1110 | August 18, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

You know, looking at how much the Giants substitute players on defense, maybe the Redskins should experiment with a hurry up offense for use in that first game. The Giants' depth on the defensive line is taken away if they cannot make their substitutions...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

The skins should be a no huddle qualified offense (because of our ex qb/coach), however we have more to fear from the Giants being a no huddle offense. The Giants improved their depth on the D line (on paper) so much that I don't think they would be affected by not making D line substitutions. As you all know, an effective D line increases a team's chances of getting a turnover. I think the point you were trying to make is that Zorn has to try to be unpredictable with his calls. I think he has to test the Giants secondary early and often, because if they do have a weakness, that's it. Also, even though Plax is not there, they have quite a few talented young recievers who have yet to step up or are rookies. Our defense needs to set the tone with snot-bubble hits to make sure they have trouble getting on track. Finally,(okay Cooley lovers) whatever weakness we have on the O line is enhanced by Cooley's blocking or lack there of. I have said it before and sincerely believe that he needs some coaching up, because blocking is about angles and leverage (Portis is excellent at it most of the time). HAIL SKINS!

Posted by: jenksredskins | August 18, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

skins1110, apologies if you're being sarcastic, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't a Katrina joke so much as a reference to that N'awlins institution, Pat O'Brien's Hurricane... a mixed drink.

http://www.patobriens.com/patobriens2/havefun/hrricane.asp

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 18, 2009 2:20 AM | Report abuse

been to Pat O'Brien's. Had a hurricane, got the souvenir glass.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 18, 2009 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Well of course you've had a hurricane!

It's a particularly insidious sort of philistine who has not only not had a hurricane but isn't even aware of its existence...

I mean, come on, people, isn't this blog first and foremost about booze? That's the tie that binds, anyway. (Not you, jm220.)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 18, 2009 3:40 AM | Report abuse

This blog has gone downhill FAST. It was a great source for Redskin info...
...now it is just random thoughts from some Trojan fan trying to meet his daily blog quota.

Posted by: TossedSalad | August 17, 2009 8:41 PM |

I agree the blog has sunk into a bog of mediocrity. Just look at the leadins for the last 5 threads -

"Frustration Over Poor Effort"
"Portis Expected to Play"
"Let the Hazing Begin"
"Orakpo Continues to Impress Coaches"
"Haynesworth Expects to Play Saturday"

Predictable, boring, bland stuff. No provocative thoughts or insightful analysis. But of course that wouldn't get you invited on any of Cerrato's TV gigs, would it?

Posted by: TubularBells | August 18, 2009 5:08 AM | Report abuse

How can a guy get so much mileage out of nothing more than hate?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 17, 2009 4:25 PM

Why don't you tell us? Of all people YOU should have this answer!

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 18, 2009 5:40 AM | Report abuse

Linebacker London Fletcher "said that [Cornelius] Griffin needed to talk to me about something, and then Griff put his arm around me and was like, 'Don't fight it,'" Henson said. "And if somebody that big tells you don't fight it, they mean it. So it's better to just go with it and not have the whole [defensive] line and defense on me."

By Paul Tenorio | August 17, 2009; 6:04 PM ET


Wow...this reads almost like that civil suit against Roethlisberger!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 18, 2009 5:43 AM | Report abuse

I was indeed referring to the Hurricane, a reddish beverage for which Pat O'Brien's is known. Looks kinda like Kool-Aid.
Beep beep and good morning.

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 18, 2009 5:59 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of bland reporting - who owns the news org. that is putting out this material anyway?

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 18, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

farve is jealous of all the news about vick so he has to come out and start his bs again. he was a great player but seems to need all the news reports to be about him.

Posted by: rls1041 | August 18, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

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