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Fullback Carey Davis added to roster

Just one day after Mike Sellers left the Redskins' second preseason game early with a knee injury, the Redskins have added journeyman fullback Carey Davis to the roster, according to a FoxSports.com report.

Washington marks Davis's fifth team since entering the league in 2004 . The 29-year-old Davis spent the previous four seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers before entering free agency in the offseason.

Davis has 10 career starts, including one in Super Bowl XLIII, and is known primarily as a blocking back, leading the way for Willie Parker in Pittsburgh. On his career, he's tallied 118 rushing yards on 31 carries. He came off the bench in six games last season for the Steelers and had only two carries.

The Steelers released Davis at the conclusion of their training camp last year, but then signed him to their 53-man roster four weeks later. At season's ended, they opted not to tender him an offer, making Davis a free agent.

By Rick Maese  |  August 22, 2010; 3:49 PM ET
 
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FIRST to say this is a good pickup...I watched him play for the Steelers a bit and dude can play.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

So what kind of camp was Sellers having?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 22, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse


Fullback Carey Davis added to roster

By Alexa Steele | August 22, 2010; 3:49 PM ET

So, Carey Davis doesn't carry the ball but he blocks. And who is Alexa Steele?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 22, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

What do you care?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 22, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse


I think beep-beep suffered from that.

Oh wait, he just suffers from d0uchebag-syndrome.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 22, 2010 3:14 PM |

Co-sign on this one Poopy !

Posted by: hessone | August 22, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Losing Sellers not that big a deal, IMO.

Kareem Moore out 4-6 weeks is a real bummer, but not as bad as being out for the year.

Rhabdomyassississy sounds pretty painful. But it does reveal 2 things regarding AH:

1) we have medical evidence that he came into camp in sucky shape (not that we really questioned that)

2) he was apparently trying really hard in practice, otherwise this condition would not have developed - this is an interesting point.

Posted by: p1funk | August 22, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Enough of this nonsense regarding the team personnel changes, what is haynesworth doing right now and is he doing it in a "disgruntled" way?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 22, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse


Enough of this nonsense regarding the team personnel changes, what is haynesworth doing right now and is he doing it in a "disgruntled" way?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 22, 2010 4:04 PM |

It's obvious that AH is disgruntled. It's also obvious he's immature for his age. Sit him on the bench and let him hang himself by commiting behavior detrimental to the team. Then suspend his fat azz.

Posted by: hessone | August 22, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Someone, likely Albert's agent, needs to have a chat with him.

Here's the script:

Here is what EVERY owner thinks about Albert Haynesworth. Albert ONLY plays hard in the year he's going for a new contract. In other years, Albert will be out of shape and a pain to work with.

Albert, you need to play well in 2010 to break that opinion. You're in DC for 2010 and 2011 and a FA after that. There is another big paycheck waiting for you if you play well this year and next.

But if you don't play well in 2010, you will reinforce what ALL the owners in the league think about you. If you play well in 2011 -- EVERY owner will BELIEVE its Albert playing for a contract. And the will have EVIDENCE that you only want Albert in a contract year. All other years, Albert is overpaid.

Albert, the ONLY way to break this thinking is to play well in 2010. If you don't, there will be no big paycheck in 2012.

Bottom line, having a great year in 2010 is going to get you about $20million more in 2012.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 22, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 22, 2010 4:17 PM

And then Fat Albert would fire his agent and find one who only tells him what he wants to hear.

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 22, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

And then Fat Albert would fire his agent and find one who only tells him what he wants to hear.

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 22, 2010 4:23 PM

I think the agent who got fired would be relieved. He's looking at earning a small percentage of nothing off Haynesworth over the next few years. Haynesworth's run his value down to zero. If he "wins" in the short term, he loses in the long term.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 22, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

And then Fat Albert would fire his agent and find one who only tells him what he wants to hear.

Posted by: kaasmaster

Maybe. Heck, get his mother to tell him that. He can't fire his mother, can he?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 22, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter what you tell unyieldingly stupid and selfish people; it's only a matter of time before they play to their character.

Trying to reason with AH assumes that reason is an important facet of his decision-making process.

You don't reason with people like AH.

You manage them the best you can, fully expecting them there to be rewards and risks and hope that the rewards will ultimately outweigh the collateral damage.

Posted by: p1funk | August 22, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Don't make much difference what Albert or his agents say from here forward.

Nobody will believe them anyway.

Dude makes all kinds of promises...

but seldom (if ever) keeps them.

Posted by: Vic1 | August 22, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I have no insight into Carey Davis ... but our lead blocking/blitz pick-up back is an important position for this team

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 22, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Willie Parker recommendation?

Posted by: WorstSeat | August 22, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Willie Parker recommendation?

Posted by: WorstSeat | August 22, 2010 5:21 PM


Seems to me Willie Parker should be more worried about HIS spot on the roster and not Carey Davis'.

And we're taking recommendations from guys likely to be added to the first cut list, then this organization is much more trouble than we could ever imagine...

Carey Davis is like a poor man's Mike Sellers. It's a good pickup, especially if Sellers is out for an extended period of time.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Sellers has been playing horribly for over a year now. I don't get what is going on with him. He missed several blocks as usual last night. This new guy probably wont be much of a drop off. Only other injury is at our deepest position. We'll be ok.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | August 22, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Sellers has been playing horribly for over a year now.

Posted by: bosshog7169

Maybe an exaggeration, but I'd like to see if we can upgrade at that spot. People have been saying good things about Darrel Young. If he's better, go with him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 22, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

23-3 sounds worse than it actually was..If that trick punt play was stuffed, and the Skins we're able to score, it would be 10-6 Skins at half..As it was it was a Mike-Sellars injuring, visibly deflating play that propelled the Ravens to victory..Upside-McNabb is the professional hardcore QB we've needed for years..Downside-O-Line showed again its weaknesses, which will be hungrily preyed upon by NFC East defenses until rectified..I say, SCR*W Vincent Jackson, lets get their disgruntled O-Lineman McNeilll.. with protection, McNabb would make the lowest WR shine..

Posted by: frak | August 22, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

..peaceout from "lonely weirdo jerk"..

Posted by: frak | August 22, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse


When Mike Shanahan was hired I came on the blog and said that he was a disaster in the making due to his poor leadership and people skills. I haven't changed my position.

If Shanahan didn't want to give the details on Haynesworth's condition, he could have simply said that they don't have all the details and won't comment until they do. Instead Shanahan minimized his condition by calling it a "headache", which he knew would immediately draw the wrath and ire of Redskins Nation and further alienated someone that the team is counting on to produce at a critical position. This is yet another example of Shanahan's ham-handed leadership.

Further, it is reportedly well known in the locker room that Haynesworth will play right defensive end when the season starts, not nose tackle. Yet, the preseason is now halfway over and he still hasn't played RDE in a game. It seems to me the appropriate question is why is Shanahan still playing mindgames with Haynesworth and playing him at second- or third-string nose tackle? Shanahan's ego will ruin what could have been a respectable season (8-8) and and turn it into 5-11 due to a split locker room.

I still say Snyder will give Shanahan his two-year tryout, then fire him. 2010 and 2011. Two wasted seasons.

-HTTR-

Posted by: SlinginSammy | August 22, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Can Kevin Barnes play free safety? He has corner ball skills and can hit pretty well. All the other safeties seem to be better at strong safety

Posted by: nfcBEaST | August 22, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

O-line getting beat and dropped passes... last year it was "all JC's fault". Let's see if McNabb can overcome it.

Posted by: Alan4 | August 22, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Marcus Mason! 7 yards on 8 rushes last night for San Diego. Damn. Can't believe we let that stud walk.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 22, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

My boy Marko is doing pretty good for Minnesota, though.

Posted by: bostskin | August 22, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

My boy Marko is doing pretty good for Minnesota, though.

Posted by: bostskin

We should see him tonight... I wonder how Brett Favre will look..

Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | August 22, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Amazing. Thanks TWISI.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 22, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

The threads that don't hold the fabric together:

"Fullback Carey Davis added to roster"

"More on rhabdomyolysis"

"Rhabdomyolysis sidelined Haynesworth in practice"

"Redskins' executive director of communications fired"

"Kareem Moore could miss six weeks"

"Albert Haynesworth: The Transcript"

All of this is nice, but after the second outing of Team Shanahan, I'd say a little analysis of effort and execution is in order.

How's that 3-4/4-3 scheme change working with unathletic linebackers?

At what point will McNabb's occasional fastball pass to the outside begin to annoy the redskin faithful?

Finally, is it important that the team put forth a serious, regular season quality effort next week against the j-e-t-s?

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I still say Snyder will give Shanahan his two-year tryout, then fire him. 2010 and 2011. Two wasted seasons.

Posted by: SlinginSammy | August 22, 2010 6:10 PM


Um, you don't give a veteran coach with two SB titles a "two-year tryout". Zorn got a two year tryout. Shanahan stays until he's ready to go. You know what you're getting with Shanahan when you go into it...a guy who takes a hard line on his players, doesn't make friends with the media, and wins ballgames. Don't let the last couple years in Denver fool you...this guy is legit and I'll believe it until I see otherwise.

Outside of Russ Grimm, I can't imagine who you or any other Redskins fan would want as the HC here over than Shanahan. Top tier coaches don't grow on trees...and if you've got one, you've got a better chance to win than most. You and some others on the blog who bash Shanahan before he's even coached a game here fail to see that he's got the other 79 guys on his side and doing things his way. The ONE guy who's stepping out of line (and who has a long history of doing crap like this, I might add) is leading you to believe Shanahan doesn't know what he's doing. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In my book, the only thing Shanahan has done wrong is keep AH too long. Hopefully, he'll rectify that shortly...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

After watching the replay of that game on the West Coast this morning, couple things jumped out at me. Most of the problems we had were self-inflicted (false starts, dropped passes, bad throws, etc), which isn't a great thing, but can also be rectified, and should be with Shanahan at the helm. Not sure why we seemed to throw so much all game. I get that B-more has a great run-stuffing group and we weren't getting much, but our play-calling seemed to invite those blitzes with no draws, screens or slants to try and counter them. Could be that Shanny Jr. did this on purpose to evaluate certain aspects of the team. It's preseason, who knows. Also, a bunch of horrible calls, or no-calls in some cases, by the refs, but as a team you have to get over that kind of stuff. All in all, not a fun game to sit through, but not all bad and comes at the right time, where people on the team might need a wake-up call after murdering Buffalo last week.

That being said, o-line did not look great, and you defintetly get the feeling that we have almost no depth there. At least we have serviceable starters this year, but if one of our tackles goes down for a long period of time, McNabb's going to get killed. C.P is definetely the best back on the team right now, and we can put to bed this LJ sharing the load with him. Granted, it was B-more, but LJ had no speed or power it seemed, while CP managed to pick up better yardage against the same group. Plus, he actually blocked some of the blitzers, which LJ did not.

Losing Sellers for awhile is ok, as D. Young looks like the real deal as his replacement. However, losing Moore will hurt. While we have lots of good safetys, no one else in that group has the ball-hawking skills Moore has and we'll miss that.

Lastly, in response to the guy saying that it's Shanny's fault for the lard-butt's situation, forget that. Big boy just got paid 21 mil. Suck it up, keep your mouth shut and play wherever and whenever the coaches want you to. I don't care how good you think you are, you're the player, he's the coach. He has two rings, you have none. I personally think that the defense will be fine without this cancer and as soon as another team loses a starting DT, ship him off for whatever you can. If not, just bench his fat a$$. The team comes first.

Posted by: DCinSD | August 22, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

When Mike Shanahan was hired I came on the blog and said that he was a disaster in the making due to his poor leadership and people skills. I haven't changed my position.

If Shanahan didn't want to give the details on Haynesworth's condition, he could have simply said that they don't have all the details and won't comment until they do. Instead Shanahan minimized his condition by calling it a "headache", which he knew would immediately draw the wrath and ire of Redskins Nation and further alienated someone that the team is counting on to produce at a critical position. This is yet another example of Shanahan's ham-handed leadership.

Posted by: SlinginSammy | August 22, 2010 6:10 PM |

Shanahan has badly handled the AH affair. He has turned what in essence was a situation where an extremely well-paid player was putting his own needs before those of the team into a situation where the focus has shifted to Shanahan himself as a mean-spirited, vindictive martinet. It smacks of the demeaning way the Skins FO handled the Zorn affair, humiliating him by bringing in someone to call plays. This is not to say that Zorn wasn't failing badly, but there was a better way to handle that situation as well.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks twisi.

And I'll add this:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/22/redskins-five-guys-go-nowhere-fast/

An interesting look at the skins' rushing attack,

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

SonofStan

"Shanahan has badly handled the AH affair. He has turned what in essence was a situation where an extremely well-paid player was putting his own needs before those of the team into a situation where the focus has shifted to Shanahan himself as a mean-spirited, vindictive martinet."


That's very well-written.

And a lil bit off the mark.

Shanahan is dealing with someone who, back before April Fool's day, promised to toe the line while the redskins where deciding if trading AH for value was better than paying him the $21 mil bonus.

According to Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, AH said he'd conform to their way of doing things.

Prince Al wasn't traded, got paid, and hasn't toed any lines drawn in anybody's sand put his own.

The guy essentially lied to get paid, and has shown no shame about his trifling game.

He avioded the off season program, and even after being in camp for 3 weeks, still hasn't put in extra work to get in the right shape.

And he never will.

The 'martinet' behavior you cite is culled out of Shanahan by AH's 'fat kid on the playground' behavior

And hy should Shanahan deal in any other way?

Unless, of course, he wants to be lied to again.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/22/mike-shanahan-not-taking-albert-haynesworths-excuses/

Posted by: TWISI | August 22, 2010 6:52 PM


"We know what type of talent he is,'' Shanahan said. "We will keep looking for that.''

We all know what type of talent he is...we also know what kind of worker he is. And what type of teammate he is. Get him out. Dude is a Ferrari with no engine. Completely worthless...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Outside of Russ Grimm, I can't imagine who you or any other Redskins fan would want as the HC here over than Shanahan.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 7:04 PM |

You are missing the point pal. The question isn't who the Skins should have picked instead of him, it's how has he been doing since he got to DC and in the case of the AH affair, not so good. He reminds one of the klutz who set out to paint the room and got more paint on himself than on the walls. At this point the story should have been over with all agreed that AH was a self-centered jerk. Instead we have this Captain Queeg character obsessively clicking metal balls and parrying AH questions with the media.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

"We know what type of talent he is,'' Shanahan said. "We will keep looking for that."

Haynesworth thinks he's "entitled" to start because he is in his 9th year. His words, not mine.

Dude is such a loser. 5 years from now you're going to hear how he's down and out and broke. I'm willing to bet anything on that.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 22, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Well said Moe...I'll never understand how any Skins fan says Shanahan is in the wrong in this, but whatever...the only thing I fault Shanahan for is holding on to this clown this long. I just hope Haynesworth will get shown the door before it's too late...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I haven't seen Carey Davis play, I hope he's a thumper, because Sellars is not. He doesn't get low enough at the point of impact and whiffs more than he sticks.

Not to sound insensitive about his injury, but it was due to the fact he didn't get low. The LB got under his pads, stoned him in the hole, and actually lifted him up and thats when his legs got rolled up on.

Posted by: clark202 | August 22, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/22/redskins-five-guys-go-nowhere-fast/

An interesting look at the skins' rushing attack,

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 7:08 PM

At this point I'd like to see K Williams more a part of the 3rd down package some on Friday. He seems the most natural pass catcher and if he shows well in pass pro, he'd be my odds on favorite to join CP as part of the RB rotation.

Posted by: TWISI | August 22, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"Shanahan has badly handled the AH affair."

How so? I think just the opposite. He's not giving in to some lard butt who thinks he's owed the world.

For all of you Fat Al apologists out there:

How would you handle this situation if Shanny is not doing it right??

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 22, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"...after the second outing of Team Shanahan, I'd say a little analysis of effort and execution is in order. How's that 3-4/4-3 scheme change working with unathletic linebackers? At what point will McNabb's occasional fastball pass to the outside begin to annoy the redskin faithful? Finally, is it important that the team put forth a serious, regular season quality effort next week against the j-e-t-s?Posted by: MistaMoe"

Geez, it's too early to be setting up expectations for a team that finished 4-12 last year. Baltimore is just a better team at this point, a legit contender. And it wasn't just the defense; the Ravens averaged 24.4 points last season, 9th in the league, and ranked fifth in rushing. They outplayed Washington on both lines and yet the starting unit needed a special teams trick play to get a TD. That's because they were committing a whole lot of mistakes.

We wanted a test, we got one. The Jets will come out firing next week, you can count on that. With Kareem hurt, I'm relieved Reed Doughty is available, because in some ways he's a more consistent player.

If it's one thing the 'Redskins faithful' have demonstrated, it's that they're easy to annoy. No way you can play QB in Washington without taking a bunch of criticism from fans and the media. Only consolation for McNabb is, at least it's better than Philadelphia.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 22, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

You are missing the point pal. The question isn't who the Skins should have picked instead of him, it's how has he been doing since he got to DC and in the case of the AH affair, not so good. He reminds one of the klutz who set out to paint the room and got more paint on himself than on the walls. At this point the story should have been over with all agreed that AH was a self-centered jerk. Instead we have this Captain Queeg character obsessively clicking metal balls and parrying AH questions with the media.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 7:26 PM


I'm not missing the point at all...take AH out of the equation here. What was the goal when Shanahan was hired? Get the Redskins going in the right direction. Instill discipline, put players in a position to succeed, and change the culture at Redskins Park. Seems to me, all of that has been done. I'm pretty sure "get through to AH" wasn't anywhere on the list back in January.

Shanahan got 79 of the 80 players to buy in. If AH wasn't the highest paid player (and arguably the most physically gifted), this wouldn't even be an issue. He'd already be gone. The only reason he's here is because they want to get something for him. If anything, Shanahan has been TOO patient with this guy.

I mean, really...blaming Shanahan for this is like blaming the victim in a hit-and-run. There's nothing you can do to avoid it or prevent it. Just because he has yet to turn this turd into a Snickers doesn't mean he's screwing the pooch.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

BTW, did anyone notice that Chase Daniel threw 3 TD passes yesterday? He entered the game in the 2nd quarter. Thanks Jim Zorn.

Posted by: TWISI | August 22, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

"At this point the story should have been over with all agreed that AH was a self-centered jerk. Instead we have this Captain Queeg character obsessively clicking metal balls and parrying AH questions with the media.Posted by: SonOfStan"

Oh, be serious. Here's the conflict in its simplest terms: AH wants to be treated differently than other players, based on his talent and his reputation (and now, perhaps, on his seniority). Shanahan is committed to the idea that every player, even the most senior, has to practice and play well enough to earn his position on the team. There's no resolution to that sort of conflict; one has to give in to the other. I'm pretty sure that the majority of Washington fans prefer Shanahan's method; in the long run, it does tend to produce a superior product on the field. But that's not the way Dan Snyder has operated in the past, and Albert's presence is very much a relic of Snyder's methods.

Coaches (including Joe Gibbs) always mention how much Dan Snyder wants to win, and that's true. Problem is, he's been going about it the wrong way for a decade. It's not going to change overnight. Albert still wants out of Washington -- as he has ever since he realized they were going to change the defense -- and until he's gone, there will always be conflicts like this one.

Can't blame the coach. You want a dishtowel for a head coach, Wade Phillips should be available next season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 22, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

samson

"Geez, it's too early to be setting up expectations for a team that finished 4-12 last year."

The point of the post was that there was a good deal to offer RI than what's being proffered.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"BTW, did anyone notice that Chase Daniel threw 3 TD passes yesterday? He entered the game in the 2nd quarter. Thanks Jim Zorn.
Posted by: TWISI"

I sure did. Not sure that will continue, but he certainly looked good -- 5'10" or not.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 22, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

haynesworth for revis.

Posted by: mohawk44 | August 22, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato signed Albert Haynesworth to a 41 million dollar guarunteed contract.

Mike Shanahan met with Albert Haynesworth in March and agreed to release him, but if he took the money he'd have to play where they want him

Every player on the Redskins reported to a mandatory mini-camp except Albert Haynesworth.

Albert Haynesworth could not play a full series of downs on defense last year, so Shanahan makes him take a conditioning test.

For 10 years every coach has had a different set of rules for different players. Even "Jesus" Joe Gibbs favored Clinton Portis.

We have a coach, albeit a bit stubborn, who is FINALLY holding players accountable for playing up to their contract.

The defensive line is probably better with Albert Haynesworth, but no way in hell I cut him outright.

Some even think that we just give him a pass and let him play where he wants, when he wants.

I have ripped this organization for years for the lack of accountability to the team and organization, but I am in full support of Mike Shanahan.


Posted by: silkydee1 | August 22, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

When I read this Shanahan quote

"If he's going to play, he's going to practice, and that is the same with every player here. The days of him playing without practicing are over."

I can't help but think of that scene from Extras where Ian McKellen proclaims

"...of course you won't have a script on oping night, AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYBODY! There will be no scrips on the night!"

Just kinda a well of a well duh moment.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 22, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

after the second outing of Team Shanahan, I'd say a little analysis of effort and execution is in order.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 7:01 PM |

What do you think this is, The Examiner? You think Jason Reid is as good as John Keim? Ha.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 22, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

BTW, did anyone notice that Chase Daniel threw 3 TD passes yesterday? He entered the game in the 2nd quarter. Thanks Jim Zorn.

Posted by: TWISI | August 22, 2010 7:44 PM |

Yea, I wondered why we cut Chase instead of Cod Tollins. I mean, neither was especially spectacular last year. Cod was actually downright terrible yet we cut the young guy...go figure.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

"haynesworth for revis..."

That's not gonna happen.

But, after watching LJ slog along behind the skins o-line, I wonder what the ravens would want in trade for W MaGhee.

The ravens have a nice trio: Rice, McClain, and MaGhee--that's three good backs in what might be a passing offense.

Obviously, one might be a goner.

AH for Willis MaGhee is a deal I'd do about right now.

But when you remember that the ravens are operated by serious people who scout well, you know that's not gonna happen either.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vicc | August 22, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

O-line getting beat and dropped passes... last year it was "all JC's fault". Let's see if McNabb can overcome it.

Posted by: Alan4 | August 22, 2010 6:33 PM


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lmao.

Posted by: Vicc | August 22, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

after the second outing of Team Shanahan, I'd say a little analysis of effort and execution is in order.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 7:01 PM |

What do you think this is, The Examiner? You think Jason Reid is as good as John Keim? Ha.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 22, 2010 7:57 PM

Yea, what do you think this is, an actual News Paper. Ha! This ain't nuthin' but a rumor/gossip rag.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Portis ain't done folks!

Hail

Posted by: Vicc | August 22, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Can't blame the coach. You want a dishtowel for a head coach, Wade Phillips should be available next season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 22, 2010 7:50 PM


Well said, Samson. Apparently some folks up here missed the day they went over "cause and effect" in grade school...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

"...last year it was "all JC's fault". Let's see if McNabb can overcome it."


Overcome what?

Sacks? Pressures? Dropped passes?

That happens in every NFL offense.

What folks wanted that JC couldn't deliver on was the occasional sparkling performance that came despite the issues around him.

I can't think of a come-from-behind winning effort JC authored at all.

JC couldn't get on the same page with S Moss with the long ball after 5 years, and yet, McNabb has hit DT and AA deep in two games.

Our singular issue on offense is the lack of back up o-lineman.

'Cuz without quality depth with our line, all we'll see is sacks, pressures, and dropped expectations.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I wish people would stop with the "He took the 21 million argument". The money was guaranteed under the contract. The Players union probably would not let him walk away from guaranteed contract money. The fact that they even tried to hold it over his head to get him to conform is a joke.

There is nothing wrong with instilling discipline. Shanahan has a vindictive side to him and he is determined to agitate and embarrass Fat Al. Plenty of coached put players in the dog house but rarely do they try to embarrass them in the press. I don't disagree with Shanahan's decisions on when and where to play AH but I do disagree with how keeps poking him with a stick through the media. It is just making it a huge distraction the team does not need.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 22, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has badly handled the AH affair. He has turned what in essence was a situation where an extremely well-paid player was putting his own needs before those of the team into a situation where the focus has shifted to Shanahan himself as a mean-spirited, vindictive martinet. It smacks of the demeaning way the Skins FO handled the Zorn affair, humiliating him by bringing in someone to call plays. This is not to say that Zorn wasn't failing badly, but there was a better way to handle that situation as well.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 7:07 PM

It's a football team, not a box of kittens. Don't assume everyone is a soft and sensitive as you are.

Posted by: mack1 | August 22, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I thought it was Rex that hit Thomas on the deep play, wasn't it?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 22, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I wish people would stop with the "He took the 21 million argument". The money was guaranteed under the contract. The Players union probably would not let him walk away from guaranteed contract money. The fact that they even tried to hold it over his head to get him to conform is a joke.

There is nothing wrong with instilling discipline. Shanahan has a vindictive side to him and he is determined to agitate and embarrass Fat Al. Plenty of coached put players in the dog house but rarely do they try to embarrass them in the press. I don't disagree with Shanahan's decisions on when and where to play AH but I do disagree with how keeps poking him with a stick through the media. It is just making it a huge distraction the team does not need.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 22, 2010 8:24 PM

It wasn't guaranteed before that specific day.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

"I wish people would stop with the "He took the 21 million argument". The money was guaranteed under the contract."


Somebody research this.

I always thought the issue was that AH's contract would trigger the $21 million payout if he was a redskin as of April 1st, 2010.

In other words, he could've been traded March 30th, 2010, and not have received the money in the lump sum, non-anuitized manner in which he did.

That's why there was all this chatter about Shanahan and Allen discussing OTAs, playing nose tackle, and other things with AH: the franchise wanted to make sure he was on the same page as them before they cut the check.

Thing is, they cut the check, and AH showed them his backside to kiss.

And those actions all by themselves would warrant Shanahan's treatment: no real man likes to be lied to.

And humbling a liar is all Shanahan is trying to do.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

alex

sho you right, my bad

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

It's a football team, not a box of kittens. Don't assume everyone is a soft and sensitive as you are.

Posted by: mack1

Heheheh...box of kittens.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 22, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

"I wish people would stop with the "He took the 21 million argument". The money was guaranteed under the contract."

Don't weigh-in on AH unless you have followed the whole drama, as it erupted out of the media, from the begining. This is basically the problem: Haynesworth either has a personality disorder or is just the most ego-centric person in pro-football (that is saying a lot). I don't see how it could be regarded differently. One thing is for certain, Shanny and company could have been a little more diplomatic about AH; even if he is an a-hole we have to learn to live with him(if we are going to keep him that is), otherwise we are going to continue to upset the team culture and continuity throughout the season.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 22, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Moe. The 21 million was a guaranteed payment.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/albert-haynesworths-21-million-1.html

Telling Albert not to take the 21 million unless he planned to conform is a joke. All they can do is hold him to the language that was in the contract.

Shanny should have gotten rid of him as opposed to going this route with him. He could have not had this play out in the media and maybe Fat Al would not have become a huge distraction. The mocking of him for not practicing for headaches has pretty much ruined any chance of the two coexisting. Shanny pretty much called him out in public for being a lazy sissy. While true it has pretty much ruined what little trade value he has and made the situation untenable.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 22, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I'll say it before I sign off for the evening:

"TRUEBLOOD IS FOR GAY PEOPLE!!!!!"

That's why I watch "HUNG".

(Note the irony, people.)

Let's beat the jets this weekend!


HTTR

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

elling Albert not to take the 21 million unless he planned to conform is a joke. All they can do is hold him to the language that was in the contract.

Shanny should have gotten rid of him as opposed to going this route with him. He could have not had this play out in the media and maybe Fat Al would not have become a huge distraction. The mocking of him for not practicing for headaches has pretty much ruined any chance of the two coexisting. Shanny pretty much called him out in public for being a lazy sissy. While true it has pretty much ruined what little trade value he has and made the situation untenable.

Posted by: srobert1117

STFU you idiot

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 22, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Can't blame the coach. You want a dishtowel for a head coach, Wade Phillips should be available next season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 22, 2010 7:50 PM

Well said, Samson. Apparently some folks up here missed the day they went over "cause and effect" in grade school...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 22, 2010 8:19 PM |

Based on your clueless comments I would hazard a guess that you two duds are part of BP's PR team.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

SROBERT1117

Good work, bro'.

And I guess you're right to say that if the Shanallen team had issues with AH, they should've moved him before the draft.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

It's a football team, not a box of kittens. Don't assume everyone is a soft and sensitive as you are.

Posted by: mack1 | August 22, 2010 8:29 PM |

Or as incadescently stupid as you are.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

"Heheheh...box of kittens."


I hate kittens in a box, too.

That's why I try to drown them in a pillow case weighed down with the pills I use to treat my rhabdomyolysis.

To this day, nothing makes me happier than the sight of a cute little puzzy under water.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Shanny pretty much called him out in public for being a lazy sissy. While true it has pretty much ruined what little trade value he has and made the situation untenable.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 22, 2010 8:59 PM |

True dat. Two SB rings don't innoculate you from screwing the pooch.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

That's why I watch "HUNG".

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 22, 2010 9:00 PM |

Q: What is the difference between a Western and a porno Western?

A: In a porno Western the good guys are hung.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

STFU you idiot

Posted by: monkeymayonaise

Brilliant post!!! I guess that is to be expected from a guy that posts like 13 year old girl text messaging her friends.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 22, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Hung and True Blood are both stupid shows.

And that's the end of that chapter.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 22, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

To the posters criticizing Shanahan for his treatment of Fatbert: I hope your kids grow up to be fat, lazy, stupid, criminals, and society blames you for it.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 22, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

ALL RIGHT FOLKS, IT"S TIME FOR A BLOG SING ALONG...

Come on, Every up.

In honor of AH92...

RAMA LAMA DING DONG

(As performed by the Edsels)

Oh oh oh oh
I got a girl named Rama Lama, Rama Lama Ding Dong
She's everything to me
Rama Lama, Rama Lama Ding Dong
I'll never set her free
For she's mine, all mine
Oh oh oh oh
I got a girl named Rama Lama, Rama Lama Ding Dong,
She's fine to me,
Rama Lama, Rama Lama Ding Dong
You don't believe that she's mine, all mine
I love her,
Love her, love her so.
That I'll never, never let her go.
You may be certain she's mine, all mine,
She's mine all of the time.
Oh I got a girl named Rama Lama, Rama Lama Ding Dong
She's everything to me
Rama Lama, Rama Lama Ding Dong
I'll never set her free
For she's mine, all mine

Posted by: Vic1 | August 22, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Alternately, you can sign along with the following

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b188LhVyzKk

Posted by: Vic1 | August 22, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SMACK1 | August 22, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Scamp,

I'm pleased to be too busy to post comments on the blog very often anymore. I scan pretty regularly though.

You and me have one thing in common -- well maybe two. The first is we're Redskin fans, and the other is we're both new fathers. Why then are you behavin' like such a petulant child?

Man I thought we wuz cool!

You certainly have become a regular rabble rouser on da blog, taking more shots at peeps than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, and Chuck Norris combined.

Mostly you just seem self absorbed though,

Fitting right in down there in Orange County!

hehe...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 22, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse


I have ripped this organization for years for the lack of accountability to the team and organization, but I am in full support of Mike Shanahan.

Posted by: silkydee1 | August 22, 2010 7:54 PM |

And I second that !

Posted by: hessone | August 22, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse


Portis ain't done folks!

Hail

Posted by: Vicc | August 22, 2010 8:12 PM |

He falls forward and goes down to easily.

Posted by: hessone | August 22, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Mad Men is better

Posted by: alex35332 | August 22, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse


SonOfStan = moronic blow-up doll.

Posted by: hessone | August 22, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse


@Poopy_McPoop

Cleaned the toilet bowl tonight in preparation for tomorrow mornings labor pains. Dumping in a clean bowl is like sleeping in fresh, clean sheets, you know !

Posted by: hessone | August 22, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse


@Poopy_McPoop

Cleaned the toilet bowl tonight in preparation for tomorrow mornings labor pains. Dumping in a clean bowl is like sleeping in fresh, clean sheets, you know !

Posted by: hessone | August 22, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Scamp,

I'm pleased to be too busy to post comments on the blog very often anymore. I scan pretty regularly though.

You and me have one thing in common -- well maybe two. The first is we're Redskin fans, and the other is we're both new fathers. Why then are you behavin' like such a petulant child?

Man I thought we wuz cool!

You certainly have become a regular rabble rouser on da blog, taking more shots at peeps than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, and Chuck Norris combined.

Mostly you just seem self absorbed though,

Fitting right in down there in Orange County!

hehe...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 22, 2010 10:37 PM |

We are cool, it's just that you're suprememly negative yet completely uninformative response to my question was not even close to what I asking for. It's the kind of thing I would expect from perineum or sports_guru. You sometimes have enough quality in your posts to have earned a shot taken for the crap you posted last night. Self absorbed huh? Back that up. I ask for you people's summaries of the game and you just throw up on your keyboard and think that's gonna sum it up. I come here and ask for your opinions because I can generally get a good summation and I get what from you? You can really be a joke sometimes.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Don't think because I took a shot at you doesn't mean we ain't cool. Ask beep, Red, longballs, diesel44, etc. It ain't personal, heck, I don't even know you. It's just a comment on your comment and really nuthin' more. All Skins fans are cool in my book.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 22, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

"Who do you think is going to win the contest of wills between Albert Haynesworth and Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan? The guy who once played a football game with a ruptured kidney and didn't go to the hospital until he filled a sink with vomit three times and urinated bright red blood - or the guy who felt a little faint and headachy and spit up when he got out of the hot tub?... Haynesworth has flunked every test of fitness and dedication that Shanahan has issued so far - and the tests weren't that hard. He was merely asked to do the following: get in real shape, run some shuttle sprints, practice consistently, and divert some of his colossal commitment to himself toward a group effort."

I have found new respect for Sally Jenkins for this. It is very well put.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 22, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Or as incadescently stupid as you are.

Posted by: SonOfStan | August 22, 2010 9:07 PM |

Big words carry more weight when you spell them correctly. Dummy.

Posted by: mack1 | August 22, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

"Based on your clueless comments I would hazard a guess that you two duds are part of BP's PR team.Posted by: SonOfStan"

You know the old saying, that a drunk needs his enablers? Guess that applies to Albert Haynesworth, too.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

watching the Raiders play the Bears and JC and Rock are who we thought they were.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 23, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

"Shanny pretty much called him out in public for being a lazy sissy. While true it has pretty much ruined what little trade value he has and made the situation untenable.
Posted by: srobert1117"

You mean what little trade value Albert had after skipping OTAs, demanding a trade before the first practice, grabbing the $21 mil, and then failing the conditioning test?

No owner or GM can fail to notice little things like that.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

You mean what little trade value Albert had after skipping OTAs, demanding a trade before the first practice, grabbing the $21 mil, and then failing the conditioning test?

No owner or GM can fail to notice little things like that.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 12:17 AM |

Not to mention stepping on peoples heads (he gets a pass from me but I don't count fopr sh!t), barebacking slores, wrecking cars and getting sued by half the country

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 23, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

IMO Shanahan isn't making a point, he's setting a precedent. And one that I suspect the vast majority of fans, coaches, GMs, and players around the NFL would agree with.

And that is, you earn a starting job through performance at practice, and keep it through performance in games.

What has Albert done in practice so far this season? Apparently not enough to win that starting slot. So they put him out there with the second team, royally pizzing him off.

I say 'royally' because Albert's convinced that contract makes him football royalty.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

"Who do you think is going to win the contest of wills between Albert Haynesworth and Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan?"

Sally Jenkins is an idiot.

The question is irrelevant. The real question is: "Is there any way this contest of the wills between Shanny and Albert can end favorably for the REDSKINS?"

And the answer is NO.

Which is why it has to stop.

And I mean now.

Albert has a contract and 24 million in the bank, so there isn't much the Skins can truly do. Especially given how badly the middle of the D line has looked in the last two games.

So then the next question becomes: "Who does Shanny want to beat more, Dallas or Albert?"

If Shanny is so fiercely principled, then he should cut Albert now, because he is a malcontent who has become a locker room distraction and a challenge to his authority.

But I haven't seen that happen yet. So either they can't cut him because they have to much $ invested in him, or they realize that they need him to win.

Either way, at some point Shanny has to ask himself, "Is the way I'm handling this making it better or worse?" And the answer is obviously WORSE.

I'm not taking sides here, I'm just looking at results. I don't approve of Alberts behavior, but it's not going to change, so if they are going to keep him, then Shanny needs to change gears. Joe Gibbs would have worked this out by now.

Shanny needs to find common goals that he and Albert can agree on that help the Skins win - and hopefully get Tony Romo hospitalized.

That is the best thing for the team - not stooping to Albert's level and continuing this piszing contest.

It needs to stop.

And I mean now.

For the good of the team.

Ship him out or make the peace.

Choose.

Posted by: edvar | August 23, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

That's certainly one way to look at it Edvar but I disagree. First to your Gibbs comment, Gibbs didn't have high priced free agency to deal with so we really can't compare the 2. As far as the Hayney situation, I don't think Shanny can handle this any other way. You simply can not give a blue print to any high priced prima donna malcontent that finds it's way onto our team. Free agency has created them everywhere and their are too many to avoid. He has to be firm and play it his way or the next dooshbag that comes along or already happens to be here will pull the same sh!t. Just one guys opinion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 23, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Stop overreacting. This is a long way from over. Shanahan isn't going to panic and the regular season is still 3 weeks away.

Albert doesn't have a lot of friends in this fight, and he's looking for a way out that saves face. There is no better way to save face than to play great.

If this is what it takes to get Albert to play with fire, then I'm ALL for it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 23, 2010 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Shanny is willing to park his azz, and make him be accountable. I agree with this path.

Here is a secret: He ain't that good, because he is a Lone Ranger in a League of Superheros game. The opposition can always count on him to take plays off OR abandon his responsibility to leave a gaping hole where he should have been.

AH has a few options:

1) Quit lollygaggin, and get on board for the big win to help the Redskins win football games.

2) Quit lollygaggin and get onboard for the big win so that the Redskins can get a little somethin somethin for him in a trade. As of now, that ain't happening.

3) Keep acting like he is, and keep getting pissed off, forever flushing his chance to make another big payday or attain his stated goal of becoming one of the games greats.

For those who think Shanny is playing this wrong, i can only imagine you have never had to live, work or operate in an environment where everyone pulling their load and meeting their responsibility is mandatory for success.

Its not like he's asking AH to chug curdled goats milk or anything he doesn't expect out of any other player.

He wants Albert to show up, be ready to go when he does, and practice. If he's injured, fair enough. He doesn't play, and certainly doesn't play with the 1's. If he was out of condition which led to his supposed condition, and now that condition is better, then he needs reps in the game to improve his overall conditioning, which he missed out on getting in practice... Which he got.

Iron Mike Singletary wants winners, and so does Shanny. The only difference between the two is that Iron Mike's immature prima donna got the message, got onboard, and is now one of the game's best at his position.

So far, AH ain't getting it. That is not Shanny's fault.

Shanny is willing to do this because he knows he doesn't need AH to win, and the team will be better off in the short, medium, and long term if he holds the line. People who think its simply personal or a vendetta know zero about leadership, accountability, and responsibility. Shanny knows if he rolls over and gives AH a pass, he would be lacking in all three.

Fortunately, he isn't.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 23, 2010 5:12 AM | Report abuse

MUST reading on Haynesworth from an unlikely source -- Sally Jenkins:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/22/AR2010082202581.html?hpid=topnews

The woman just made Mike Wise look like a foolish wissy after his Sunday column, "Give Albert Anything He Wants."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

From John Keim, some game analysis -- the type of thing you can read in the Examiner, but not in the Post:

What we learned

Andre Carter is still not playing with any explosiveness at linebacker » Carter clearly is still adjusting to the position, but at end he had a good first step and could stay low off the ball. At linebacker, he stays at the same pad level when he rushes and generates less power than he did at end. Contrast that with Brian Orakpo, who stays lower and explodes into blockers. Orakpo did not get a sack the other night, but he was effective rushing the passer in part because of how much spring he plays with on the rush.

The Redskins seemed to run some sets that begged Baltimore to blitz the middle » They would put the running back as a wing, leaving the quarterback by himself. The second string did this a couple times, and each time the Ravens blitzed the middle. Each blocker was occupied, allowing the linebacker to break through cleanly.

It’s hard to blame Larry Johnson for all that went wrong with him Saturday » He didn’t always have holes to run through. But he also did not help himself by getting more yards than was available. Also, his pass protection was less than desirable. On one blitz, he was supposed to go out on a screen pass, but he hesitated because two rushers were coming his way. So in the end, he didn’t get out on the route, nor did he slow the rush. Protection by the backs will be an issue unless Clinton Portis is in the game.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DCinSD | August 22, 2010 7:05 PM

Agree with all of that except the off-the-shelf analysis of Albert. Agree to disagree. The guy is a gamer and Shanahan and Hayneworth will reach an accommodation and Albert will start. Golston is looking stronger than Carriker to keep the other DE spot.

John Keim of the Examiner hearts Larry Johnson. The line with Jammal Brown is fine. Heyer, not so much. Brown is coming in off an injury so his snaps were limited, but all of that was without chip blocking ... and Baltimore's defense has played together for several years so they already have chemistry. The Skins' line is going to function effectively.

Posted by: dcsween | August 23, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: edvar | August 23, 2010 12:52 AM |

Last I heard, Mike Shanahan is the head coach of the Redskins. It's his responsibility to run the team, not you, Wise, or AH. Let the coach take care of team matters. Let's put it to a vote. Do you back our head coach, Mike Shanahan, in regards to his handling of the AH situation ? YES, I back coach 100%.

Posted by: hessone | August 23, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

look shanny in this situation is just as much to blame as haynesworth, is if both were upfront with each other, as to what their expectations were this, is something could have been avoided, now if albert claims that he can't practice, because of the fact that he's sick then that's undestandable, and according to shanny he didn't know that albert was sick he's not, a mind reader, let's get this much cleared up right now.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | August 23, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: rmnkevorkian | August 23, 2010 7:54 AM |

Shanahan is running a team, and AH is running his mouth. Does that clear things up for all the AH supporters ? Shanahan, 100% !

Posted by: hessone | August 23, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

MUST reading on Haynesworth from an unlikely source -- Sally Jenkins:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/22/AR2010082202581.html?hpid=topnews

The woman just made Mike Wise look like a foolish wissy after his Sunday column, "Give Albert Anything He Wants."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

FOLLOW RIGGO's ADVICE and go 'TD' MARKO.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 23, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse


RI = regurgitated information

Posted by: hessone | August 23, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

From John Keim, some game analysis -- the type of thing you can read in the Examiner, but not in the Post:

What we learned

Andre Carter is still not playing with any explosiveness at linebacker » Carter clearly is still adjusting to the position, but at end he had a good first step and could stay low off the ball. At linebacker, he stays at the same pad level when he rushes and generates less power than he did at end. Contrast that with Brian Orakpo, who stays lower and explodes into blockers. Orakpo did not get a sack the other night, but he was effective rushing the passer in part because of how much spring he plays with on the rush.

The Redskins seemed to run some sets that begged Baltimore to blitz the middle » They would put the running back as a wing, leaving the quarterback by himself. The second string did this a couple times, and each time the Ravens blitzed the middle. Each blocker was occupied, allowing the linebacker to break through cleanly.

It’s hard to blame Larry Johnson for all that went wrong with him Saturday » He didn’t always have holes to run through. But he also did not help himself by getting more yards than was available. Also, his pass protection was less than desirable. On one blitz, he was supposed to go out on a screen pass, but he hesitated because two rushers were coming his way. So in the end, he didn’t get out on the route, nor did he slow the rush. Protection by the backs will be an issue unless Clinton Portis is in the game.


Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 7:16 AM
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Thanks double b. I was very disappointed in Larry Johnson's performance. The guy had looked good in all of camp and then he flat out chokes when he's under the bright lights. I hope he can pull it together before the regular season starts.

As to the o-line's lack of adjustments that allowed a linebacker to come free, the center is supposed to make adjustments to the blocking assignments on the line. Not sure who was in there during that series, but I put this one on the center.

As for Carter, the team is doing a hell of an injustice to a good player. This is not his defense. He is so clearly better as an end in a 4-3 defense and what would be best for all parties is if they could trade him to a team that runs the 4-3. They owe it to Andre to find him a better situation.

One other thing I want to mention is free safety. With Moore out, they need to make some quick decisions. Neither Horton or Doughty is a true free safety and no one wants to move Landry back. Move Carlo Rogers inside or move Barnes inside, but they need a better coverage guy at free than what they have right now...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

What have SOUP and BRENNAN done so far in the X-games?

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 23, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

zceszcest1

"Stop overreacting. This is a long way from over. Shanahan isn't going to panic and the regular season is still 3 weeks away."

The "Redskin Fan Bus of Optimism" is not a hybrid.

It's kinda like a Hummer crossed with a rollicking bandwagon of hope.

It would never be confused with a Prius or any other environmentally friendly vehicle.

It runs strictly on the diesel fuel of over-reaction.

Panic is what lubricates its brakes.

The exhaust of Vinny Cerrato, Steve Spurrier, Jim Zorn, and 400 page playbooks clouds the judgement of its win hungry passengers.

Speed bumps like the one we all witnessed this past Saturday nite against the ravens would make folks in Indy, New England, Nawlins, and Pittsburgh shout, "Keep givin' her gas, we'll be there in December when the engine is good and hot."

But redskin fans, not having had extended post season joy in a while, fret, whine, complain about every little bump hit along the way.

You're right, we should all think long term as the season is still three weeks away.

We could go to New York Friday, pound the jets into submission, and the fuel of optimism will spur the bus on.

But if this Friday night looks a lot like this past Sat. night, you can expect the fuel of hope for a great season to run low.

And the bus itself abandoned like so many other gas-guzzling behemouths that no longer hum so happily along.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 23, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

"Shanny pretty much called him out in public for being a lazy sissy. While true it has pretty much ruined what little trade value he has and made the situation untenable.
Posted by: srobert1117"

You mean what little trade value Albert had after skipping OTAs, demanding a trade before the first practice, grabbing the $21 mil, and then failing the conditioning test?

No owner or GM can fail to notice little things like that.

Posted by: Samson151

I do think he had some trade value. His contract would be very favorable to any team that traded for him. It would basically be a 3 year 15 million dollar deal and none of it guaranteed. When he showed up to training camp and publicly said that he was going to be a good soldier they should have worked on shipping him out. When he started pulling his lazy antics they should have kept quiet publicly and worked on shipping him out. Even if his trade value was not that high they should have cut their losses and done the best deal possible regardless of how bad it is. He has been a distraction since day 1. Everyone knows Shanny is not a coach that you mess with. They have known it since OTAs. By keeping the cancer in the locker room and continuing to snipe back in forth in the media is just a distraction to the rest of the players trying to get ready for the season. You think people on here are tired of reading blog posts about him can you imagine how tired the other players are of being asked about it.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 23, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

"........but I put this one on the center.

WIL MONTGOMERY? Either he, or the draft pick, COOK from NEW MEXICO.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 23, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

FOLLOW RIGGO's ADVICE and go 'TD' MARKO.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 23, 2010 8:01 AM

12 Vikings had receptions last night, and Marko Mitchell wasn't one of them. I guess they're keeping him under wraps for opening day?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

They owe it to Andre to find him a better situation.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:03 AM

Then he needs to drop the no-trade clause in his contract.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Anyone defending AH is a moron, anyone thinks MS is going overboard is a moron. Does anyone remember what happened last year when our wanna be "Coach" was with us. MS is bringing structure to this team, AH took the $21 Million. Yes thats right $21 million. What would every normal human being do for that kind of money, I would doing anything that coach wanted me to. He is just a spoiled human p.o.s - hopefully we let him go or trade him for a pole dancer

Posted by: Gussneck | August 23, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

hopefully we let him go or trade him for a pole dancer

Posted by: Gussneck | August 23, 2010 8:15 AM

Are you holding out for a starting pole dancer or will you settle for a backup?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Either way, at some point Shanny has to ask himself, "Is the way I'm handling this making it better or worse?" And the answer is obviously WORSE.

I'm not taking sides here, I'm just looking at results. I don't approve of Alberts behavior, but it's not going to change, so if they are going to keep him, then Shanny needs to change gears. Joe Gibbs would have worked this out by now.

Shanny needs to find common goals that he and Albert can agree on that help the Skins win - and hopefully get Tony Romo hospitalized.


Posted by: edvar | August 23, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse


Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have our winner for "Most Naive Post of the Day"!

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

We have our winner for "Most Naive Post of the Day"!

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 8:21 AM

Don't blame Edvar. He did copy and paste out of Mike Wise's column yesterday. Okay, blame him. He should have read it before he copied it.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

hopefully we let him go or trade him for a pole dancer

Posted by: Gussneck | August 23, 2010 8:15 AM

Are you holding out for a starting pole dancer or will you settle for a backup?

Posted by: beep-beep....


A backup stripper so we can manage the salary cap in the following years.

Posted by: Gussneck | August 23, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

They owe it to Andre to find him a better situation.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:03 AM

Then he needs to drop the no-trade clause in his contract.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:14 AM
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I get from his previous comments that he would work with the team on making changes to his contract if they found the right deal. I don't blame him for not dropping it outright because it does give him leverage, but he has said he would work with them on changing it.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

hopefully we let him go or trade him for a pole dancer

Posted by: Gussneck | August 23, 2010 8:15 AM

Are you holding out for a starting pole dancer or will you settle for a backup?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:19 AM
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If it's a pound for pound trade, we might need a telephone pole...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the original article up top, has it been said how serious Sellers' knee injury was? I mean, signing a fullback right away seems to suggest Sellers is done for the season, but I haven't read that anywhere...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

A backup stripper so we can manage the salary cap in the following years.

Posted by: Gussneck | August 23, 2010 8:26 AM

Build through the draft. I don't think we should take some other team's problem at this position. This is a position where, like long snapper, we really need to get younger.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

"A backup stripper so we can manage the salary cap in the following years."


We'll name her the 'player to be named later'.

Thing is, they way strippers work, we'll be the one that gets played.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 23, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

As for Carter, the team is doing a hell of an injustice to a good player. This is not his defense. He is so clearly better as an end in a 4-3 defense and what would be best for all parties is if they could trade him to a team that runs the 4-3. They owe it to Andre to find him a better situation.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse


Yes. Andre is the victim of a gross injustice here.

The team owes it to him...after all Andre Carter has been playing here for free donating his time/services for nothing.

The team owes him big.

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

I mean, signing a fullback right away seems to suggest Sellers is done for the season, but I haven't read that anywhere...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:30 AM

Nah. Means they want more competition at the position. No one seems to think Sellers has been playing very well this year.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the original article up top, has it been said how serious Sellers' knee injury was? I mean, signing a fullback right away seems to suggest Sellers is done for the season, but I haven't read that anywhere...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:30 AM |

I thought that as well. However, the several articles I read about Sellers suggest it's nothing serious. Sellers whiffed on a few blocks the first two games, maybe they want to see if they can bring in competition at that position.

Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse


Further, it is reportedly well known in the locker room that Haynesworth will play right defensive end when the season starts, not nose tackle. Yet, the preseason is now halfway over and he still hasn't played RDE in a game. It seems to me the appropriate question is why is Shanahan still playing mindgames with Haynesworth and playing him at second- or third-string nose tackle? Shanahan's ego will ruin what could have been a respectable season (8-8) and and turn it into 5-11 due to a split locker room.

Posted by: SlinginSammy | August 22, 2010 6:10 PM

Shanahan lied when he said Haynesworth simply had a "headache" and I'm pretty sure the players took notice of it. If the players lose respect for Shanahan, he's done.

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 23, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Looks like D-mo is not cutting it. Darrel Young looks like he has been playing well but he is very inexperienced as a FB having played linebacker in college. This definitely looks like a competition move to get some one to step up.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan lied when he said Haynesworth simply had a "headache" and I'm pretty sure the players took notice of it. If the players lose respect for Shanahan, he's done.

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 23, 2010 8:44 AM

abwyatt = Albert Haynesworth's screen name

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I do think he had some trade value. His contract would be very favorable to any team that traded for him. It would basically be a 3 year 15 million dollar deal and none of it guaranteed.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 23, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse
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Yep. GMs not named Vinnie are tripping over each other to get to a guy whose offseason training plan came in Jenny Craig boxes.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Sally,
Haynesworth is a bully and like most bullies he's a pussywillow. You are right, Sally. Haynesworth is wrong and so are all his apologists. The road to any championship, whether it's Miss America, a Nobel, or a Super Bowl is paved with hard work. Shanahan knows this and any clear headed reader knows this.
Haynesworth's boys (and girls) here are a bunch of chuckleheads.

Posted by: MrChili | August 23, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Looks like D-mo is not cutting it. Darrel Young looks like he has been playing well but he is very inexperienced as a FB having played linebacker in college. This definitely looks like a competition move to get some one to step up.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse
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D-mo was moved back to TE. I don't think this move means anything more than Sellers won't play the rest of the preseason.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

As for Carter, the team is doing a hell of an injustice to a good player. This is not his defense. He is so clearly better as an end in a 4-3 defense and what would be best for all parties is if they could trade him to a team that runs the 4-3. They owe it to Andre to find him a better situation.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse


Yes. Andre is the victim of a gross injustice here.

The team owes it to him...after all Andre Carter has been playing here for free donating his time/services for nothing.

The team owes him big.

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 8:31 AM
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You are right. In the end, the team owes him nothing. In the end, Carter could bad mouth the coach, skip every "voluntary" team event and publicly decry the injustice of a team moving him to a position he is not suited for, BUT he hasn't done any of those things. Unlike another player who will go nameless, he has done everything the team has asked and he has been a role model for the younger players ever since he got here. Come to think of it, for that kind of dedication, maybe the team does owe him something. It is not in a contract anywhere, but there is more to the player-team relationship than what is written in a contract. A class move by Shanahan and Allen would be to find Andre a home where he can use the skills he has instead of trying to make the square peg fit in the round hole...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

"Looks like D-mo is not cutting it."

I have nothing for or against Dennis Morris.

But we should've taken another linebacker--if one was availiable-- instead of another fullback/tight end type.

I just don't think A Carter and L Alexander will satisfy as outside linebackers, no matter how hard they try.

I'd like to see P Riley given more of a chance to play at outside linebacker opposite B-Rak, too.

How can a rookie be worst than a vet learning the position?

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 23, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have our winner for "Most Naive Post of the Day"!

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 8:21 AM

Perhaps you should re-read my post. FWIW, I am not defending Albert. He's acting like a child.

If the only reason why they are keeping him around is to slap him around and make an example out of him, then how does that help us beat the Cowboys Monday night?

If they are keeping him with the hopes that he will contribute to the teams success, then they are kidding themselves if they think continuing to antagonize and embarrass him publicly and in front of his teammates will work. That will only build resentment and - much like a petulant child, Albert will throw a temper tantrum at the worst time and disrupt the team. What is the good in that?

He is a spoiled brat with 24 million dollars and a contract, so normal logic doesn't work here.

My point is: If you plan to keep him, work with him a little - try to find a common ground. Otherwise, avoid the train wreck we all know is coming and get rid of him.

Posted by: edvar | August 23, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"Looks like D-mo is not cutting it."


I have nothing for or against Dennis Morris.

But we should've taken another linebacker--if one was availiable-- instead of another fullback/tight end type.

I just don't think A Carter and L Alexander will satisfy as outside linebackers, no matter how hard they try.

I'd like to see P Riley given more of a chance to play at outside linebacker opposite B-Rak, too.

How can a rookie be worst than a vet learning the position?

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 23, 2010 9:05 AM
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I'd give Chris Wilson a shot before I would try putting Riley in there, but frankly, I don't think Lorenzo Alexander has been that bad in the position. The difference between Alexander and Carter is that Carter knows the position, having played it before; however,Zo is still learning. Zo's upside is greater. I'd like to see Zo getting all of the first team reps, and I have said in previous blurbs, I would like to see the team find Andre a new home.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I for one, agree with Edvar. Does Shanahan want to win - or win the "Battle of the Wills"? Seems to me to be the latter.

Shanahan did not sign Albert and does not want him here - all because Albert did not show up for OTAs, etc. So Shanny was determined to embarrass him by the conditioning test - that made matters worse. After being "sick" (who knows whether Albert was or not) Shanny does not play him until the bitter end and Albert gets even more embarrassed.

This fight has got to stop. They both need to tone down the ego and just play football.


Posted by: Lisa_R | August 23, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

F Haynesworth.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 23, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep, did you ever make up a nickname for Haynesworth since you're so creative?? Let's hear it.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 23, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

So does LJ make this team? That was a terrible outing...

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep, did you ever make up a nickname for Haynesworth since you're so creative?? Let's hear it.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 23, 2010 9:15 AM

Creative? Me? You're too generous with your compliments. I can't touch your own creative nickname for Haynesworth -- "fat Albert."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 23, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan lied when he said Haynesworth simply had a "headache" and I'm pretty sure the players took notice of it. If the players lose respect for Shanahan, he's done.

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 23, 2010 8:44 AM
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We are talking about a guy who thinks his coach is understating his condition which proves he was unprepared. Oh, that malicious coach!

Even better, said malicious coach had the gall to then overestimate that same condition by having him practice with the two's! Oh, the humanity!

Yeah, I think Shanahan is safe on this one. I don't think NFL players are as dumb as you guys think they are.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Looks like D-mo is not cutting it. Darrel Young looks like he has been playing well but he is very inexperienced as a FB having played linebacker in college. This definitely looks like a competition move to get some one to step up.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse
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D-mo was moved back to TE. I don't think this move means anything more than Sellers won't play the rest of the preseason.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

D-mo must be doing terribly if we moved him to be only a TE on a team that already had 4 other TEs. And only had one true FB(Sellers), as Young is a converted LB that is listed as a RB but playing FB. Now that we added Carey we have 2-3 FBs and 5 TE, i think we see d-mo in a FB role after the Sellers injury.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan: Albert Haynesworth won't get away with skipping work


Mike Shanahan has undoubtedly heard Albert Haynesworth's claims that Shanahan minimized his health condition last week.

And so Shanahan has decided to minimize them some more, calling Haynesworth's bluff.

"One thing for sure that is clear to me is that Albert has gotten away in the past with playing without practicing,'' Shanahan told Thomas George of Fanhouse.com. "That will not happen under this regime. If he's going to play, he's going to practice, and that is the same with every player here. The days of him playing without practicing are over. And that, to me, says it all.''

When asked about the claims that Haynesworth has rhabdomylysis, Shanahan said he's "Not aware of that.''

What we have here is two stubborn men, used to getting their way. And it's hard to see Haynesworth getting away with his usual crap for much longer.

Posted by: suliman215 | August 23, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I for one love what Shanahan is doing. We all hated the way Danny played daddy to his star players, that's ending.

I'm still skepitcal about this rhamomablobis( sp? whatever the he!! this condition is). Why is it just now being found out, as an athlete wouldn't you be aware of this condition?

I would much rather have mediocre players buying in and playing hard, than some overpaid manchild crying.

Enough is enough with Haynesworth. I've been on both sides of this one, but he has to go now in my opinion. If there is a team with another guard/tackle or receiver we need to pull the trigger.

New England perhaps? He could play end, and NE has a history of taking bad attitude players. Maybe Haynesworth for Mankins?

I think that's a win-win for both teams.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 23, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lisa_R | August 23, 2010 9:12 AM

I definitely think it's all on Haynesworth. Albert created all this drama himself. You take the check, then you better do what you're ask to do, whether you like it or not. I'm glad Shanahan isn't letting him off the hook. If he showed up for OTAs (mandatory) then he wouldn't have to do the conditioning test. Plus, it's not Shanahan's fault that Albert was embarrassed by the conditioning test. If he was in shape which he should've been then the test should've been no problem.

Haynesworth said it: "I'm the player, he's the coach." So Haynesworth is the one that needs to tone down his ego. Not Shanahan. Albert needs to stop acting like a little brat with an attitude, what does going on that rant after Sat.'s game do anything? He needs to just shut up and stop complaining. Clearly, the true side of him is coming out, he doesn't love football that much.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 23, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

A fitting end for Haynesworth would be for the team to put him on IR for "migraines" and then include 40 yard wind sprints as part of his daily rehab.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep: oh right, you don't have one. Thought so.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 23, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan lied when he said Haynesworth simply had a "headache" and I'm pretty sure the players took notice of it. If the players lose respect for Shanahan, he's done.

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So let me get this straight, you people really believe there is a villain here other than Albert Haynesworth? LOL! Should the Redskins just tell Fat Albert that he can come and go as he pleases, skip practice whenever he wants, but hold the rest of the team to a higher standard and force them to practice as scheduled? Really? That makes sense to you? What did Shanahan do wrong? What has Snyder done wrong by Haynesworth other than paying him far more than he'll ever be worth in return for laziness, apathy, and an entitlement attitude? C'mon, common sense people!
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Posted by: suliman215 | August 23, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

"Either way, at some point Shanny has to ask himself, "Is the way I'm handling this making it better or worse?" And the answer is obviously WORSE.posted by edvar"

Well, let's take a look at that opinion of edvar's -- is Shanahan making the situation with Albert worse?

That's a questionable assertion.

Don't forget we're talking about someone who welcomed his new coach by skipping OTA's and then expressing in the media his strong desire to be traded to another team, one that played a different defense.

That had to make the coach feel just a bit unappreciated, don't ya think? I mean, this wasn't Jim Zorn -- it was a coach who left Denver with two Super Bowl rings and a .646 win percentage.

Had to make him feel an eensy bit disrespected.

Then Albert showed up at camp out of shape. Shouldn't have been a surprise -- far as we can determine, he had never showed up in shape at any camp, ever.

Suggesting that all that rhetoric about knowing his own body and training on his own in Tennessee was just, well, BS.

That had to displease the new coach, too.

Looks to me like it was a pretty bad situation to begin with.

One thing's clear: Mike Shanahan is faced with a choice. Cave, or hold the line on this guy.

I think he's made his choice.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I for one love what Shanahan is doing. We all hated the way Danny played daddy to his star players, that's ending.

I'm still skepitcal about this rhamomablobis( sp? whatever the he!! this condition is). Why is it just now being found out, as an athlete wouldn't you be aware of this condition?

I would much rather have mediocre players buying in and playing hard, than some overpaid manchild crying.

Enough is enough with Haynesworth. I've been on both sides of this one, but he has to go now in my opinion. If there is a team with another guard/tackle or receiver we need to pull the trigger.

New England perhaps? He could play end, and NE has a history of taking bad attitude players. Maybe Haynesworth for Mankins?

I think that's a win-win for both teams.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 23, 2010 9:33 AM
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They could trade him but they aren't going to get much. Every GM would know the risks involved. Frankly, trading him for pocket change or flat out releasing him gives the big baby just what he wants and I think Shanahan and crew would like to squeeze a little more out of him than that. I think they trade him if he agrees to give back some of his signing bonus. If he doesn't, the coach can put him on IR and only allow him in the building for rehab. Maybe this whole rhabdomyolysis thing is setting the stage for them to IR him.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 23, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

At this point who cares?????

Did anybody else notice that without fantastic protection and with zero running game, McNabb picked up two long 3rd downs, hit a 45 yard bomb and was a Fred Davis drop and a ridiculous fake punt from being up 7-0 starters vs. starters against a legit super bowl contender.

At one point McNabb had 5 completions for 94 yards and if not for Davis it would have been 6 completions for 100 yards and a TD. That's a little different average than JC's typical 475 completions for 180 yards and no TD's with a ton of 6 yard completions on 3rd and 8.

I was actually pretty pleased with the first half. Yes Suggs gave silverback some trouble.....who doesn't struggle against Tsizzle? he's one of the premier pass rushers in the league. Yes Albert didn't play.....so what our D stoned them for the whole first half except after they got the ball on the one. McNabb to Cooley looks like it will be prolific this year, and the other WR's are getting open too because of it. I'm happy, when was the last time we played the Ravens starters and were even able to move the ball much less score first and realistically we beat them starters v. starters. Room for improvement but nothing near as bad as the score line read....

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 23, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhaaaaaaa!!!

The apologists are spraying Febreze all over Deadskins Insider in a valiant attempt to cover up the stench of a bad, bad football team. Y'all are complaining about the Ravens blitzing, running trick plays, blah, blah, blah. Have you no shame? Excuses are for losers!

The Ravens told you in no uncertain terms that the Cadavers are not a big-boy team. What happened to your offensive line? If Trent Williams played like that every game, he'd be labled a bust and McNabb would wind up on IR. Blame Larry Johnson if you wish, but your o-line is trash (newsflash?) and didn't open ANY running lanes. Just like others have told you, you don't have a single offensive lineman who would start for the Cowboys, injuries or not. McNabb still has accuracy issues and now you're stuck with him for several years since you gave a 2d rounder to get him. LMAO!!

Compare your performance against that of the Cowboys:
The Cowboys played a team they're predicted to meet in Super Bowl XLV and they whupped the Chargers' butts in their own stadium and sent them on their way.

Any more questions about the Deadskins/Cadavers relative to the Cowboys??

Y'all dreamers are funny!

Hell...To The...Deadskins!!

Posted by: MrIrvin88 | August 23, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"I'm still skepitcal about this rhamomablobis( sp? whatever the he!! this condition is). Why is it just now being found out, as an athlete wouldn't you be aware of this condition? posted by Ih8dallas"

No. The experts suggest it's underdiagnosed. Meaning that team docs, mostly orthopedists, missed it. Of course, I've not heard of Albert having prior episodes, so I'm not sure how reliable a diagnosis it is. Could have been something a doc put forth as a possibility, rather than something firm.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth said it: "I'm the player, he's the coach." So Haynesworth is the one that needs to tone down his ego. Not Shanahan. Albert needs to stop acting like a little brat with an attitude, what does going on that rant after Sat.'s game do anything? He needs to just shut up and stop complaining. Clearly, the true side of him is coming out, he doesn't love football that much.

Posted by: rachel216

Did you even see the so-called "rant"? That was NOT a rant. Albert just sarcastically answered questions - for the media to say he "went off" is simply laughable.

Posted by: Lisa_R | August 23, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"So does LJ make this team? That was a terrible outing..."


I'd say, "No."

If you go back and look, Johnson performed poorly last year behind o-lines in Cincy and KC where J Charles and C Benson had very good years.

LJ is done.

But I think the contract he sisgned puts the skins in a bind should they decide to release him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 23, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

@MrIrvin88
Hey IDIOT! How many TD's has Americas Team first team O scored? 1 thats how many. Us Redskins fans do not believe our team will make the SB. All we know is the Cowboys won't. Stay Gay Irvin

!

Posted by: suliman215 | August 23, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"Did you even see the so-called "rant"? That was NOT a rant. Albert just sarcastically answered questions - for the media to say he "went off" is simply laughable.

Posted by: Lisa_R"

You don't have to yell to say inflamatory things.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 23, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

"Compare your performance against that of the Cowboys:The Cowboys played a team they're predicted to meet in Super Bowl XLV and they whupped the Chargers' butts in their own stadium and sent them on their way. Y'all dreamers are funny!"

Speaking of dreamers -- didn't Tony Romo complete 4 of 11 passes for 30 yards, while Phillip Rivers hit on 11 out of 15 for 125?

That's the thing about preseason -- you have to watch out for delusional Cowboys fans who temporarily forget that Wade Phillips is still the coach.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

At this point who cares?????

Did anybody else notice that without fantastic protection and with zero running game, McNabb picked up two long 3rd downs, hit a 45 yard bomb and was a Fred Davis drop and a ridiculous fake punt from being up 7-0 starters vs. starters against a legit super bowl contender.

At one point McNabb had 5 completions for 94 yards and if not for Davis it would have been 6 completions for 100 yards and a TD. That's a little different average than JC's typical 475 completions for 180 yards and no TD's with a ton of 6 yard completions on 3rd and 8.

I was actually pretty pleased with the first half. Yes Suggs gave silverback some trouble.....who doesn't struggle against Tsizzle? he's one of the premier pass rushers in the league. Yes Albert didn't play.....so what our D stoned them for the whole first half except after they got the ball on the one. McNabb to Cooley looks like it will be prolific this year, and the other WR's are getting open too because of it. I'm happy, when was the last time we played the Ravens starters and were even able to move the ball much less score first and realistically we beat them starters v. starters. Room for improvement but nothing near as bad as the score line read....

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 23, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I agree with all of this. Trent Williams will build on that experience against Suggs.

It's not like he was completely manhandled, everyone will highlight the one sack, but what about the other snaps.

It's not like he gave up a sack to some 2nd string scrub, T-Suggs is one of the best 3-4 linebackers in the league.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 23, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Barring getting hurt, T-Suggs taking Williams to school in preseason is a win for him and the skins.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 23, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Barring getting hurt, T-Suggs taking Williams to school in preseason is a win for him and the skins.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 23, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

@MrIrvin88
Hey IDIOT! How many TD's has Americas Team first team O scored? 1 thats how many. Us Redskins fans do not believe our team will make the SB. All we know is the Cowboys won't. Stay Gay Irvin

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Posted by: suliman215 | August 23, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I believe the Redskins will make the Superbowl.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 23, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad that elbow injury was just a bruise. That was a close one.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 23, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

@suliman215,

It's not the amount of TDs scored. It's points scored relative to opponents. That's why they keep score. Would you believe that you can score no TDs and still outscore the opposition? Have you ever even seen a football game before?

@Sampson151,

It's called 'winning ugly'! LMAO!
The scoring for starters against starters in the Chargers game: 7-7. Redskins vs. Ravens: 13-3 (and we both know it should have been worse). But hey, no excuses.

@chrislarry,

Yeah, McNabb's ankle sure feels like Suggs' schooling Williams was a win for him and the Skins. LMAO!

I suppose I should just let the dreamers dream!

Peace

Posted by: MrIrvin88 | August 23, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Glad to see mrIrvin here celebrating his team's huge win over the Cowboys of the AFC.

The thing I take from that game is that Baltimore took it a lot more seriously than Washington.

Baltimore clearly game planned and was playing to win while the Skins stayed vanilla. At least, I hope that's what happened and the Skins do have a plan for covering someone in the flat.

It bothers me that 2 weeks in a row, they've been picked apart with quick outs and flares to the RB in the flat. That will hopefully be corrected with game planning.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 23, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

"If the only reason why they are keeping him around is to slap him around and make an example out of him, then how does that help us beat the Cowboys Monday night?

Posted by: edvar | August 23, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse"

Look beyond the first game of the season and at the next five years of Shanahan's and even Haynesworth's deals and you'll see the answer.

Gone are the days of 'anything goes so long as we win the next game.' No more trades for 6-game fixes the next season. No more CP sitting out practice whenever he wants because his backups were nobodies. And, obviously, no more coddling the superstars under Jim Zorn's 'stay medium' regime.

It's very simple. Shanahan is building a program here. Either you abide by his rules or you don't play. These aren't difficult to follow. Be in shape. Participate in practice. Work hard. Very, very simple. When Haynesworth completes those three things, he will be in the same boat as the other 10 starters on defense.

As for the medical issue that kept AH out, Tom Brady has been on the injury report every week for the last 7 years and nobody knows what is wrong with Brady. Especially for superstars, teams often don't want to disclose a full injury to the rest of the league. It's not Shanahan's fault that Haynesworth's reputation precedes itself so when he sits out of a practice, justified or not, he looks like a lazy POS. AH earned that all by his lonesome.

Posted by: psps23 | August 23, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

cosign psp23

Posted by: chrislarry | August 23, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

agreed, cosign on psps

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 23, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Shanny's right about AH. He's too used to not practicing in Tennessee and wants the same deal here. You ain't gonna get the same lenient boss everywhere, AH! Grow up, you big fat arse baby!

Posted by: harbirsingh | August 23, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Sometimes, things just have a way of working out.

Like w/ BMS.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 23, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

As for the medical issue that kept AH out, Tom Brady has been on the injury report every week for the last 7 years and nobody knows what is wrong with Brady. Posted by: psps23
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I am going to have to disagree with that comparison. Shanny didn't disclose the full extent of the injury, but it wasn't to give his team the competitive advantage. If you don't know whether Brady has bruised knee and can run or a sprained ACL and is more immobile, that can affect your game plan. If AH has a headache or that long named thing that he had, it doesn't affect how you play him because he would have to recover from both to play.

I don't have a problem with the fact that Shanny is holding his players accountable, my probem is that he is going to the press and not keeping it in house. Publicly embarrasing one of your players is never good. Continually doing so is just dumb.

I believe that his goal is to build a winning team where everyone buys into his system. His strategy with getting AH to do so isn't working, but he hasn't changed his strategy.

AH is on the team and (probably) isn't going anywhere. He is not working well with the coach. If it is Shanny's team, it is his responsibility to get AH to agree with him. Shanny's pride is not allowing him conform his style to meet the challenge he is facing. He is the kid trying to pound a square peg in a round hole. He may get it through, but both the peg and the hole will be damaged to the point that they can't be used.

Posted by: ronjon629 | August 23, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

where is dennis morris - he is supposed to be a TE and FB but I haven't seen him used in either role

Posted by: coparker5 | August 23, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

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