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Good Luck Ray Brown, You Will Be Missed

Just got off the phone with Ray Brown, one of my favorite people in football. After settling in this area during the end of his playing career, Ray has taken a job as an assistant coach with Buffalo, working with their offensive linemen.

Ray came back to the Redskins for a second stint in 2004, when Jon Jansen tore his Achille's tendon in the preseason opener, and stuck around through the 2005 season, becoming the oldest lineman in the modern history of the game, capping a 20-year career.

With the Redskins falling apart in the second half of 2006, Ray joined Joe Gibbs's staff as an assistant helping the linemen, and also as something of a go-between with the players and staff. He is as respected in the game as they come, and with chemistry a huge issue on that 2006 team it was no surprise the organization reached out to him.

Ray spent this past season working for Comcast and said he got a call from a member of the Bills staff as off the set at the last game. He interviewed with head coach Dick Jauron Monday and took the job today. (I'll never figure out why the Skins did not try to keep him on staff after the 2006 season, but that's another matter).

Ray wanted to take some time away from football, but said he still had the bug. He'll be moving up to wintry Buffalo, but was excited about the position. "This was a family decision," Brown said. "Everyone was on board with it and it's a great opportunity for me to pursue."

Brown will reunite with former Redskins lineman Derrick Dockery, who he worked closely with in Washington. Ray said that Dockery actually called him during the interview with Jauron to see if he was actually taking the job. Brown is a student of the game and a smart, bright and funny guy and it was great getting to know him and pick his brain in Washington.

By Jason La Canfora  |  January 16, 2008; 4:38 PM ET
 
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Bring on Gregg Williams Please!

Posted by: sblische | January 16, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Ray Brown is a greay guy, heck I remember
when he played for the University of Memphis, before transferring to Arkansas State.

Posted by: madalao | January 16, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

3rd

Posted by: Moose33 | January 16, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Y'know what's awesome about Buffalo?

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Can we refer to Williams as Flapjacks and refer to the actaul flapjacks as "Law & Order?"

Posted by: sams3 | January 16, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Good for Ray!

JM220 - I picked up the post for lunch today, and the Muslim student's story was on the front page (A1). So I would think this issue will be followed up thouroghly.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 16, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

dcsween,

nothing?

Posted by: sams3 | January 16, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

sams3 - There's an advertising campaign over hear which might explain Greggs Flapjacks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDYjW5Pk1_4

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Good for Ray, I'm happy for him. Although he was a great football player, I didn't he was much of an analyst on Comcast. Some guys are meant for tv, some guys aren't. I'm sure he'll be an excellent coach tho.

Now as for comcast...does this mean the return of Czaban to the the Redskins postgame show???

Posted by: barno | January 16, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

spicy wings?

not too far from Toronto?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

panties?

Posted by: Dorf | January 16, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

thermal thongs?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

sam3 and 4-12, I wasn't asking rhetorically. With the wings and Ray Brown, I think the high points are covered. I was raised in Cleveland, so I don't say this lightly ... Buffalo is depressing.

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

In addition to what has already been mentioned, these things are pluses, I think:

a. proximity to Canada in general, and Toronto in particular

2. that thing where the water goes over that cliff

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I still hold the opinion that Chic Hernandez doesn't belong on TV. That's just me.

Also (Lisa will appreciate this) Wade Phillips' tongue does not belong on TV.

And to round off the list, Eastern Motors commericial!

Posted by: Dorf | January 16, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Hire Richard Simmons now! ...

I'm sure he'd be more than willing to help the Skins with their hammy & groin problems!

"RICHARD SIMMONS LOVE 2 STRETCH VHS VGC"
http://cgi.ebay.com/RICHARD-SIMMONS-LOVE-2-STRETCH-VHS-VGC_W0QQitemZ310014461187QQihZ021QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem

Hammies, groins, torn triceps.... Dan, let's starters on the field, these are fairly preventable injuries. Hire a stretch coach.

Memo to Team: S-T-R-E-T-C-H!!!!!

Memo to Dan: Don't tase me, bro!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 16, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Know what's awesome about Cleveland?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

c. at least it's not Cleveland

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

great minds, 4-12.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, thanks, that Wade Phillips thing got me laughing at my desk.

Too bad the Canadian dollar is stronger than ours (surely, Armageddon cometh) or Ray could have a high old time across the border.

Posted by: redskirt | January 16, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

That's right, redskirt!

a2. the Canadian Ballet

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

ding.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Sween, definitely agree on Buffalo. I spent a week there on business in February of '98, and it was dreary, dismal, and depressed.

About the only positive was the brewpub next to my hotel.

But if you ever find yourself in Buffalo in the middle of the winter, make the drive up to Niagara Falls. The place is deserted, and the mist freezes to the rock walls around the falls and results in these enormous ice formations. Pretty cool looking, especially at night when they shine lights on them.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 16, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Cleveland has become awesome ... since I left ... no correlation ... seriously ... I smell oats.

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

freakzilla, I had a similar experience at Niagara Falls when I was in college. There may or may not have been psychodelia involved. The Ripley's Believe-It-Or-Not Museum was horrible, in a not to be believed kind of way.

Canadia, on the other hand, get me started. Clean. Cool. Molson AND Labatts. Like other Great Lakes cities, only without the misery, eh.

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I mean no harm here, but Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus--

Can anyone who's never lived in Ohio keep those three straight?

(I'm talkin' locales, I know the difference between the Bengels and Browns.

One's main color is orange, and the other's color is...)

Posted by: redskirt | January 16, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

If you're looking for something to do, why not vote in the worlds biggest annual music poll! (At least I think it is!) Triple J's Hottest 100!

http://triplej.net.au/hottest100/vote/

I'm having difficulty deciding on my 10 songs, I've narrowed my short list from 56 down to 23, but now it's getting tough!

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I remember buying a hot dog in downtown Toronto at 4 in the morning and talking to some drunk guy about religion... True Story.

If Canadia weren't so daggum cold, I'd move there (this is the same guy that's filling out Colorado teaching applications). Go Broncos? ick. Any good Redskins bars in Colorado Springs? ANYTHING good in Colorado Springs?

Posted by: Dorf | January 16, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Went to college in Ithaca NY. Cold, nasty winters. But even we felt sorry for the poor people stuck in Buffalo ...

Ray Brown, class act. Hope Buffalo is very very good to him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 16, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

My spell checker always calls me out when I type Bengals. It tries to get me to change it to Bengalis.

Cincinnati Bengalis has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

redskirt ... you got it about right, but Columbus is in the middle ... btwn the other two ... in the middle of the state ... real flat, sprawling, think Indiana/Illinois (i.e., the middle parts). That's Columbus (that and Ohio State ... which itself is massive and sprawling).

Cincinnati is basically Kentucky (where its airport is). Plenty of contradictions though. Evangelicals, Larry Flynt, that type of thing. Hills and bluffs. Music scene is pretty good.

Cleveland is on the Lake, in the north. Eastern Europeans, race riots in the 60s. Formerly blue-collar (early ruster in Rust Belt). Music scene is awesome.

Browns and Bengals actually have a common ancestor ... Paul Brown. Former Ohio State coach. Former coach of the Cleveland team, fueded with the owner (the guy who eventually moved the team to Baltimore). Then moved on down to Cincinnati and became the owner/coach of that team. Hence, the same colors.

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

And Bengalis works for up to 36 hours...

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

ANYTHING good in Colorado Springs?

Air Force Academy football? Something to do on a nice fall Saturday.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 16, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm with Lisa on this one...the reason the GG interviews have gone on for four days is that they're doing all of their offseason prep work under the guise of interviewing. I don't think the club has issued a formal statement as to who has interviewed and who hasn't, so the fact that GG and "Mr." Snyder (and likely Vinny, too) are meeting is probably more that they're actually meeting and planning and less that they're interviewing.

Now, about that Long&Foster dude's rumor that Weird Al has put his house on the market...

Posted by: PDiddy | January 16, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

It looks like Jerry Jones and the gang are lining up the excuses now for their hasty playoff exit. That big contract to Romo not looking so good now?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3199765

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I once drove across Ohio and back on a round-trip from Virginia to Illinois, and on the way through Ohio the first time I decided that the state motto was probably "What highway budget?".

Posted by: freakzilla | January 16, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Dorf! Chick Hernandez bugs me too...but not as much as Wade Phillips tongue...that is truly nightmare inducing.

Barno, I cannot see Czaban ever being brought back to the Comcast Show. After he made that remark to Brunell, he was pretty much burnt toast.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

kost52:

Wicked. I think I ended up with this:

Arcade Fire - Black Mirror
Battles - Atlas
Fog - The Last I Knew Of You
Joanna Newsom - Sawdust & Diamonds
Les Savy Fav - The Equestrian
M.I.A - Boyz
Radiohead - Bodysnatchers
Simian Mobile Disco - Hustler
Spoon - Now Now
Tegan And Sara - Back In Your Head

I'm a bit embarrassed at how much I like that new Tegan and Sara. It's so damn good, though.

Posted by: MNSkinsFan | January 16, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Dorf:

the US Olympic training center is out there, which is vaguely sports-y

pretty nice little zoo built the side of the same mountain that contains NORAD (think WarGames):
http://www.cmzoo.org/

Pike's Peak?

Denver and Boulder are up the road, and Taos and Santa Fe are down the road, and...

Eh, who am I kidding, I got nothin'

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Ray Brown - "Now Derrick, we talked about this. The false start cripples our offense and makes our terrible offense even more terrible."

DD- "OK coach. Good thin I'm the highest paid at my position in the league."

Ray Brown (rolls eyes) - "Hey Coach Jauron? Can we just always go on 1 this year so Double Deuce over here won't jump? We can't? Ok, I'll think of something."

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | January 16, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Dorfo, totally whiffed on the highest suspension bridge in the world, waaaaay up high over the Arkansas River, not too far away from Col Spgs
http://www.royalgorgebridge.com/
THAT was cool, and also scary.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I still say TO's crying display was stolen from Cuba Gooding, Jr's character in "Jerry Maguire".

I think TO is trying to line up an acting spot as an arrogant WR!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 16, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I saw on the ES site that the Skins signed one of those future contracts with the DE named Huntley. I wonder if we can get any OTHER news about the Skins apart from the non-news about the new head coach. The Ray Brown news is nice, but that is Bills news now. Want SKINS news, not former Skins news.

This time last year was when they brought in guys like Chris Wilson, Eubanks, Torrence, that guy with no ears, etc. I know that Pittsburgh hired something like eight guys (based on the jibba jabba about Cody Body ... Steelers also signed Anthony Trucks).

Waa waa waa. I want my Skins bottle! Can somebody put on a turban and conjure up some new news?

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Also, and this is the last little bit of nothingness I'll offer you, Dorf:

used to see teevee ads all the time offering free information from the guv'ment about stuff. maybe you remember this. all that free information comes from Pueblo, CO, the Federal Citizen Information Center:
http://pueblo.gsa.gov/media-promo.htm

I am boring myself to death with this three-minute research project on southeastern Colorado. Ahem.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Someone at washpost or si or espn needs to write a story with this as the main premise:

Has anyone in the history of the NFL received as many accolades as Tony Romo for doing so little?

The Governor

PS. How can the owner be on the sideline three inches from the coach in the final seconds of a playoff game down 4? To me, this is absolutely classless. I mean, if they were about to take a knee with the win, okay. Or if they are about to lose and the other QB is taking a knee, okay. But with the entire season on the line with seconds left?? Absolutely ridiculous. FYI, the reason you have heard nothing about Mora is that they are still talking and the interview is going phenomenally.

Posted by: songofroland | January 16, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Any fans of The U up here? What was the deal with a tall, fast receiver who seemed great last year as a junior, but nada special this year as a senior? Name of Lance Leggett.

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

1st ESPN mock draft has the Skins taking Limas Sweed from Texas.

He's a really good player, broke his wrist mid way through his senior season. I think the Skins should go a different route, but hey what do I know? Experienced WR through FA, draft O-LINE depth!

Posted by: redryan400 | January 16, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Sween -

There probably won't be any new news until the coaching thing gets sorted out. Besides, there is no football in europe this year, so no big decisions about who will be shipped to nfl europa. (What ever happened to that guy without ears?)

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"... FYI, the reason you have heard nothing about Mora is that they are still talking and the interview is going phenomenally."

Posted by: songofroland | January 16, 2008 05:58 PM

If by "interview" you mean playing DOOM3 on xBox and "by phenomenally" you mean "Snyder is kicking his butt," that makes sense to me.

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Lots of UFO sightings in 'rado Springs.

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_2975.shtml

Just south is the sex change capital of the world in Trinidad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad,_Colorado

Posted by: MNSkinsFan | January 16, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Lance Leggett sounds like the name of a porn star.

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

That news about picking up Kevin Huntley, a 6'7" 270 pound defensive end, would be news ... assuming they did. Seems like some of that stuff would have been in the pipeline for as soon as the season ended.

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Jerry Jones can underwrite the production of the remake of "Against All Odds", starring Tony Romo, Jessica Simpson, and T.Owens. Jerry Jones could play the role of the owner's husband.

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I think that Long & Foster cat was pulling one on us. If I remember correctly, he said Al Saunders house in "Roanoke." I find it hard to believe Al Saunders lives way down in Roanoke.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Our boy Frenchy the linebacker from the '06 practice squad now trying his hand at rugby...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/01/16/sorugl116.xml

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, the Roanoke to Missouri stuff was from "Mrs. Williams".

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Snyder interviews at home - "If you can beat my defense on Madden, youve got the job" (after having Williams come over every other day to set up the defensive game plan).

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

4-12, Steinberg had that earlier ... it was the first time I'd seen Gardente's face. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/01/welch_ruggers_sign_french_exre.html

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Can't really say I'd have known what he looked like either.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Al Saunders just thinks he lives in Roanoke. He actually lives in Chantilly, but he does an "end around" and drives all the way around the Beltway to get to Ashburn and back every day.

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha ha... Beat my D on Madden thats good stuff.
Who here would pay some money to watch Williams and Saunders play Madden against each other in Head Coach mode? Actually I don't own Madden 08 so I don't know if it has HC mode.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 16, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

MNSkinsFan - Yeah, Tegan and Sara were unfortunately one of my final few cuts.

My final 10 -

Birds Of Tokyo - Black Sheets
Bloc Party - Hunting For Witches
DJ Eurok - This Is DC
Eagles Of Death Metal - Cherry Cola
Emilie Simon - Fleur De Saison
Jackson Jackson - Eliza
Katalyst (Feat. Stephanie McKay) - Say What You Feel
Mark Ronson (Feat. Lily Allen) - Oh My God
Muse - Knights of Cydonia
Peeping Tom - We're Not Alone

For of of you artists who missed out, don't be disappointed, you've had a good year, keep up the good work, and who knows maybe next year you'll make it.

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

If Canadia weren't so daggum cold, I'd move there (this is the same guy that's filling out Colorado teaching applications). Go Broncos? ick. Any good Redskins bars in Colorado Springs? ANYTHING good in Colorado Springs?

Posted by: Dorf | January 16, 2008 05:26 PM

There are a lot of great microbreweries in CO. My uncle is a ski bum who lives in Vail. The Air Force Academy is in CO Springs, so that's cool. Also, there's a lot of weed in CO, if that's your thing.

Posted by: PBL4 | January 16, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Barno, I cannot see Czaban ever being brought back to the Comcast Show. After he made that remark to Brunell, he was pretty much burnt toast.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 05:46 PM

Maybe you're right. But I doubt brunell will be on the Redskins roster next year and maybe that, coupled with Ray Brown's vacant spot, paves they way for The Return Of The Czaban.

Stranger things have happened.

Posted by: barno | January 16, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe that's LaVar's opening to do the show full time?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 16, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

We are indeed following up on the Muslim runner.

Posted by: TheCindy | January 16, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Ok, the local sports media makes me want to scream. Regarding the Skins coaching search, Russ Thaler said on WaPo Live tonight "what is taking so long?" He then went on to mention the Rooney Rule and that the Skins had to comply. That comment really made him look stupid. Joe Gibbs retired only 8 days ago! Snyder has to comply with the Rooney Rule and the coaches he wants to interview were not available until after Sunday's game. Not to mention that Miami just hired a coach today - they have been interviewing for weeks now....and Baltimore is still "coachless" - they have also been interviewing for weeks as is ATL. Same situation. But the Skins have less than 8 days or the media begins to pout? If Snyder had hired someone right away, the media would say he rushed the decision. No wonder he does not speak to them.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

My final 10-

Itsy Bitsy Spider
Patty Cake
Hickory Dickory Dock
Twinkle twinkle little star
If you're happy and you know it
I'm a little teapot
Rock a Bye Baby
Hush Little baby
Pop Goes the Weasel
Humpty Dumpty

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

At least she's not old enough for Hannah Montana. Anybody stuck listening to that?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

"No news" is the arch-enemy of the 24/7 "everything is news" media. All the reporters can do right now is interview each other (and refer to their colleagues as "informed sources").

"And in other news today, Generalissimo Franco is still dead."

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

barno, I find it very hard to believe Czaban will be back. Snyder despises him (and I heartily agree)and it is the "Redskins" Post Game Show. Idiot Czaban made far too many caustic remarks about the Skins and whether Brunell is here or not, Czaban will not be welcomed back (Thank God!). He was "benched" for one show after the Brunell remark and then I believe he only finished out the season because he had a contract.

Lavar I can definitely see being a part of the crew.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

4-12, not yet. My little sister is 3, so she's still in the Dora phase.

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

My Girlfriend is 28 and going through the Hello Kitty phase.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 16, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

kost- I'm learning about Dora now. That will probably fill next year's top 10 list. (by the way, the wee little one started walking last weekend!)

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm dieing here...

kost has a sister that's 3!?

That must mean that kost is up past his bedtime, tomorrow, as like in...US Americans and such.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 16, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter (NFL Network) just reported that Snyder flew his private plane out to Seattle to pick up Jim Mora today and that Mora will spend the night at Snyders "compound" tonight....said Mora looks like a hot candidate.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

4-12 - Nice work bud!

Stumped - I have a little sister who is 3, and a little brother who is 7 in March (my Dad remarried late). So I grab them every few weekends for sleepovers, which gives me an excuse to act like a kid. It's great!

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

kost:

Lots of stuff there that I have never heard of! can't wait to dig in and check it out.

4-12:

Itsy Bitsy is *such* a takeoff on the ABCs song. It's like Vanilla Ice and Under Pressure.

I don't have many guts, but I think I just blogged them out. Happy MLK Day folks. I'm headed to ATL!

Posted by: MNSkinsFan | January 16, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Mora, Jr. grow up in the Northwest, or go to school there? Maybe Snyder figures Mora has special expertise in tree cutting that Mora can demonstrate this evening.

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I am happy to hear you guys are doing a follow up story Cyn Cyty.

I will drive down myself and give the Dan a beat down if he goes with Mora. No damn way he goes with Mora. Dan can't be that stupid.

Posted by: jm220 | January 16, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Do you reckon they're going to camp out in the lounge room in their sleeping bags and PJ's?

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I think Zilla's snarky interview script jinxed us!

(I was a good bit.)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 16, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I get the feeling it might be a little bit like Neverland...ick.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 16, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Dan doesn't have a pet monkey does he?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 16, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Kost -

I think that sleeping on his jet is probably Snyder's idea of camping out.

Posted by: tafka | January 16, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Hypothetical Situation -

What if Mora is brought in to be the Asst. Head Coach, Defense Coordinator to take Williams' spot. Its serves 2 purposes -

#1: Takes Jim Mora (who understands Defense, knows how to draft defensive talent, and knows how to coach DB's)off the Market.

#2: Ensures a potential candidate to take over Williams' spot if he isn't the HC we all hope he will be.

It makes sense. Mora is a Players coach and the "Experts" all seem to think he is a quality head coach candidate with something to prove now. Mora Blitzes a lot more than Williams, he likes to play smash mouth football. I love this guy as a Defensive Coordinator.

Posted by: kmckinty | January 16, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Hypothetical Situation -

What if Mora is brought in to be the Asst. Head Coach, Defense Coordinator to take Williams' spot. Its serves 2 purposes -

#1: Takes Jim Mora (who understands Defense, knows how to draft defensive talent, and knows how to coach DB's)off the Market.

#2: Ensures a potential candidate to take over Williams' spot if he isn't the HC we all hope he will be.

It makes sense. Mora is a Players coach and the "Experts" all seem to think he is a quality head coach candidate with something to prove now. Mora Blitzes a lot more than Williams, he likes to play smash mouth football. I love this guy as a Defensive Coordinator.

Posted by: kmckinty | January 16, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Hypothetical Situation -

What if Mora is brought in to be the Asst. Head Coach, Defense Coordinator to take Williams' spot. Its serves 2 purposes -

#1: Takes Jim Mora (who understands Defense, knows how to draft defensive talent, and knows how to coach DB's)off the Market.

#2: Ensures a potential candidate to take over Williams' spot if he isn't the HC we all hope he will be.

It makes sense. Mora is a Players coach and the "Experts" all seem to think he is a quality head coach candidate with something to prove now. Mora Blitzes a lot more than Williams, he likes to play smash mouth football. I love this guy as a Defensive Coordinator.

Posted by: kmckinty | January 16, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Ray Brown Blah blah blah...have they hired a coach yet?

Posted by: leevi98 | January 16, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

It wouldn't be the first time Snyder picked assistant coaches that could be head coaches.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 16, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I've heard that Mora won't sign a contract unless Matt Millen is hired as GM.

It's the Dumb and Dumber rule.....

Posted by: Soups1 | January 16, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

yo why people b hatin on a ray brown post? sorry you didnt get a report on how many times mora jr farted during his interview.....

ray brown is the bomb, happy for the dude. he should be on our staff...

and dcsweeny, "DOOM3 on xBox" Doom is soooo 90's...its all Halo now...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

thing i loved about ray brown's comeback was his head shot they'd show during games when they introduced the offense or whatever. actually looked like it was in black & white == like he was so old, that's all they had for him, but every other guy had like a gleaming fresh color pic. was hilarious. to me.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

good gravy, it's quiet up here.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

yes, yes, just grand, contemplating the potential hire of this chooch Jim Mora. la de frickin' da.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

also, the monoblogging, that's just grand as well, isn't it.

beer me.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Where's that blog support guy? Was that also not dcsween?

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

the nepotism deal -- with the Mora kid this very moment taking a tray of cookies out of the oven at the Snyder manse, getting ready to tuck little Danny into bed -- really is a thing up here. I see Kurt Schottenheimer (erstwhile D coordinator for us, right?) is coaching the Safeties of the Packers on the Tundra this Weekend. And Brian Schottenheimer is the O coordinator of the Jets, who I believe are not playing this weekend but are in the League.

not sure where I'm going with this, just wanted points for noticing these family names popping up.

a rather glum boo in the general direction of Mora. BOO!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

ca u believe they cut Kit on Project Runway...bad choice!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

So here is the latest from Bram Weinstein on Redskins Radio today.....

Bram said that Jim Mora Jr is interviewing for the job and seems to be the candidate (of the ones we publicly know about) that seems to be the most serious contender to steal the job from Gregg Williams thus far. Williams has interviewed numerous times over the last week and is considered still the front runner for the job..

Bram spoke with one person who said Gregg "really wants it." He also said this is contrary to what Williams has presented in recent years saying he is satisfied working as an assistant and allowing a lot of the media/off field issues for a head coach to worry about..

Brams speculates that with Miami's job being closed, Baltimore's close to being settled... Atlanta likely will move quick with either Jason Garrett or their fall back should Garrett take the Ravens job or stay in Dallas as an assistant, the door will close on other head coaching positions for Gregg Wiliams. If the market closes, then the Redskins are not obligated to allow Williams to speak to other teams about their vacancies as a lead assistant coach.. Indeed they could essentially force him to stay as a top paid defensive coordinator and work under a new head coach. Gregg likely wouldn't be happy under that scenario, but may have no choice if this is the way the Skins went.. Maybe the job gets turned over to Greg Blatche or Jerry Gray if Williams left after being passed over.

So basically he is saying the Skins may be screwing Williams.....sounds crazy but they have kept him tied up for days in interviews thus not giving him time to interview elsewhere.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, per someone's query above, Jerry Jones gets to roam the sideline whenever he wants because he has the GM title, right? I seem to remember some special status aside from Owner (in additon to, I mean) which allowed him free access down there during the games.

But seeing him right next to Wade at the end of the game, good grief. Terrific hands-off management style. Incredibly helpful, too.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Sparano = Custer going into Little Big Horn
Garrett = Napoleon going into Waterloo

Enjoy dismal failure Cowboy-drunken idiots.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a lot of rumor and induendo from Wham Bam Thank You Bram Weinstien...

Dont people usually vilify Janso for this....?

Wake when there is an announcement.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, thanks for passing that along... followup question for you, maybe Bram mentioned this: I don't recall hearing that Gregg was contacted by any other teams to interview, this offseason or last offseason for that matter.

So wouldn't it be rather disingenuous to claim that he has been prevented from interviewing with other teams, if nobody has asked for permission to interview with him? Or would he have collected his blue folders and just moseyed on over to Baltimore and Atlanta and Miami and cold-called those owners? I guess I'm missing something.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, don't you think it will benefit your Cowboys down the road for Garrett to cut his teeth coaching with another team (in another conference, to boot) and set the stage for a triumphant return to Big D when the carousel comes around next time, or the time after that?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

maybe Garrett can cut his teeth on the "big one"

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Why does anyone give a rat's ass about Jason Garrett?

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Nate...it looks like you're the only swingin' soul up here tonight...just bloggin' your guts out. Papa Joe sure would be proud of you.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 16, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Nate, yes, in the same way it benefits regional vice-presidents to go from the Delmarva to the Outer Banks.

The indifference is burning pretty deep amongst Cowboys fans.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Also, don't you think that Garrett will benefit from an environment that reeks of victory, as Baltimore, and that Spano will benefit from having that Tuna around? Meaning maybe it's not going to be as Little Big Horn/Water-loo as you predict. Or maybe so.

Or maybe I don't really give a rat's patoot about those teams because we're not playing them any time soon and I'm just trying to tease out some idle chitchat.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

twofer on rat's behinds.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

dchandl3, don't think I've forgooten about the need to come up with a top secret alternative handle for you to use up here. I have not. I am working on it, sir.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what Joe is doing. Is he down in NC with the grandbabies, or puttering around at the Park, or what?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

"i got your alternative handle right here.....ohhhhhh"

andrew "Dice" LarRY

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I miss Dice Clay.....he has so profane and out there when he hit it big. He almost seems tame by today's standards.

Actually, I don't miss him nearly as much as I miss Kinison.That guy was funny.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 16, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

I am about a thousand comments late on this, but I think it was talent_evaluator who said something about "Redskins Inside Her," and I just had to mention Dr. Tobias Fünke's seminal "The Man Inside Me."

However belatedly.

Ahem.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Sparano is a miserable choice. His offense is designed for druids.

Garrett was obviously a product of his inherited players. When they weren't playing well, he had nuthin'.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

So, looks like Tony Stewart (who I like a whole heckuva lot) has decided to go from "anger management problem + baby fat" to somewhere in the vicinity of pro wrestling heel / heavy metal loser / wild-eyed cult leader.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/15/AR2008011503219.html

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for leaving you in the lurch Nate, my computer has been having a fit.


By the way we do play Baltimore next season, so hopefully they go and hire someone like, say, oh...... Marty Mornhinweg?

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Nate, that was Bram's pontification not mine. Bram tends to get overdramatic and intense so hopefully that's all it was. He is going crazy because we have no news. Bram was saying the above to Larry Michael "Voice of the Redskins." Larry told Bram he thinks it may be "awhile" before a coach is hired - that Gibbs brought respect and relevance back to the team and finding his replacement is a HUGE job.

Since Larry is the so called "Voice of the Redskins" I used to think he knew everything that goes on but then the day before Gibbs retired, Larry said "I'm sure Joe Gibbs will return" which negates my initial thinking.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

I was at a party in Hollywood one time and Ron Jeremy and this greasy quasi-mafioso dude with a pistol in his sock (no kidding) were talking about Kinison and Dice Clay, who they both knew.

What a freakin' strange time I had in LA.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

"who needs mornhinweg, when i got morning wood?....OOOHHH"

andrew "Dice" LarRY

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

No sweat kost, and I forgot that we DO have the AFC North next season. Goody goody gum drops. We will three out of four from those chooches. Write it down.

Lisa, I knew you were just passing along Bram WEINSTEEEEEIIIIIINN's words from the radio. I was just wondering about that other thing, the thing I asked about.

Maybe the Larry Michaels thing shouldn't undercut your faith in him as a source of ultimate insider info, but should reinforce that Gibbs' retirement was truly a surprise to everybody, everybody. Which I like to believe, because it explains why this past week has seemed so... messy?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

"hickory dickory dock, i heard bram weinstien was sucking vinny cerrato's....OHHHHHH"

andrew "Dice" LarRY

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Home to Cleveland and Pittsburgh

Away to Baltimore and Cincinnati

http://www.redskins.com/news/0309schedules.jsp

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

"i predict were gonna lay a cleveland steamer on thw whole AFC Central...OOOHHH!"

andrew "Dice" LarRY

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

cL, you are en fuego, compadre.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

CL, you just watch Ford Fairlane or something??

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

cL, who was that band you were raving about a month or so ago? There was one amazing band you were talking about but I didn't act on it immediately. Was it one of the bands on kost's list? Need a refresher.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

sorry just entertaining myself, but now my palms are growing hair...OHHHH

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

nate....hmmmmmm....give me more context...although everyone should be digging The Reining Sound

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I can remember CL raving about them, but can't remember who it was....

Posted by: kost52 | January 16, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

jspaceman72 asked me what i have been digging in 07.....i know that dude in RL....and i said music is dead to me but the last Sadies record was good...knowing his taste...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

punk rock, but good? real rock? I can't remember. somebody new and maybe sorta underground that you were in love with.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

well I always babble on about the new bonb turks b/c Janso digs em which is rare....but they are from the 90s...was also waxing nostalgic about mudhoney...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 16, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

that's it, the Sadies.

doggone it, the two-month-old is up and agitat. back momentarily.


I love this ridiculous, wonderful blog.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 16, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Nate...got any games you're eyeballing for next year?

I think I am definitely committed to another road trip to Seattle and one down to San Fran as well. I think the kids will tag along in their little uni's for the San Fran game. Those chardonnay swilling fans aren't nearly the venom spewing cretins that occupy the upper deck in Seattle.

In addition, I've never been to Lambeau. So, if Brett Favre comes back (highly likely if he doesn't win the SB)then I definitely will make the pilgrimage to see Lambeau and Mr. Fah-vray....and hopefully we will revenge this years loss.

Of course, the Lambeau trip could be off the table if we score the trifecta and Monk, Green and Grimm go in...because then I'll pack up the fam and head to Canton in my '83 throwback gear.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 16, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

The Sadies are Canadian band lead by the talented and stoned Good Brothers. They play spagetti western surf country rock pysch...all their albums are amazing, but last two on Yep Rock are top shelf. Back catalogue can be found on Bloodshot Records when they were more instrumental. Also back up Neko Case a bunch especially on her most excellent live album...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Finger Eleven...Paralyzer...that brings back some 80's memories.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

The Sadies are a Canadian band lead by the talented and zonked Good Brothers. They play spagetti western surf country rock pysch...all their albums are amazing, but last two on Yep Rock are top shelf. Back catalogue can be found on Bloodshot Records when they were more instrumental. Also back up Neko Case a bunch especially on her most excellent live album...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Finger Eleven...Paralyzer...that brings back some 80's memories.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

f losable type

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Whenever I see the name Jim Mora, it makes me think of Jim Moran, who I believe was a congressman like from the Northern Virginia area, such as.

Jim Moran makes me think of Erin Moran, who played Joanie on "Happy Days."

Joanie makes me think of Chachi and how I always thought he could have done better.

Chachi makes me think of Scott Baio for obvious reasons, which makes me think of "Charles in Charge."

"Charles in Charge" makes me think of Peter Griffin singing that show's theme song on "Family Guy," which makes me think of how "Family Guy" creator Seth McFarlane looks a lot like my roommate from my first semester of college, who was a total doucheclown.

The word "doucheclown" reminds me of the time that I coined that word to describe a certain failed politician-turned-award-winning snake oil salesman, which makes me shake my head in disbelief.

Shaking my head in disbelief makes me think of my reaction when I first read that Jim Mora was being interviewed for the head coaching job for the Redskins.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

It's complicated and imbalanced, but like I said before, I hope it's the Giants. I don't give a rat's ass about some old goat. Division pride.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

dchandlr3, pending delivery of the real shedge-yool in a few months, Seattle is a YES.

San Francisco is a STRONG MAYBE, especially if sfskin gets off the schneid and gets back up here ASAP.

HOF weekend would be pretty amazing, wouldn't it? Both Mrs. Nate and I have family not too far from Canton. Not up in sween territory, but south of thereabouts. That would be pretty compelling if we have two Skins going in.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

'Zilla...

Get thee to Hollywood. If you're willing be a scab you could start writing right away...I hear they're in need of some good talent down there about now.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

SMACK, I guess I kind of like the idea of a rematch between the Jints and Pats, given that week 17 humdinger, but will the Jints show up if the game is only broadcast on one network?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

I've never been to Canton...I think it would be a pretty cool experience. If only it weren't in you...know...Canton.

Why can't they move the HOF to Cancun?

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

I have to admit, my Cantonese is pretty shaky, but I bet they throw one heck of a party up there.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Leaving the office...late night. See you all tomorrow and hopefully we'll have a HC before I head out on Saturday for vacation.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I've never been to Canton...I think it would be a pretty cool experience. If only it weren't in you...know...Canton.

Why can't they move the HOF to Cancun?

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:35 AM

The HOF is pretty sweet - just do not hang out in any of the surrounding neighborhoods.

Posted by: david | January 17, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Gotta hand it to whoever designed the HOF building. "Giant citrus juicer" is a bold architectual move.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if someday, hopefully not anytime soon, the Madden Cruiser will be on permanent display in Canton. They could have it such that you could walk through it, like the replica of Skylab at Smithsonian Air & Space.

If nothing else, it would be a good excuse to open a turducken stand.

Not that you need an excuse for turducken.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Brief question for Cindy, JLC, or anyone else who might have heard; is there any news on Ron Springs? Is Shawn's dad basically guaranteed to end his life in a coma?

Posted by: PBL4 | January 17, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

(I'll never figure out why the Skins did not try to keep him on staff after the 2006 season, but that's another matter).

By Jason La Canfora | January 16, 2008; 4:38 PM ET

. . .and I'll never figure out why the post didn't hire that ross tucker guy. . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | January 17, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Whenever I see the name Jim Mora, it makes me think of Jim Moran, who I believe was a congressman like from the Northern Virginia area, such as.

Jim Moran makes me think of Erin Moran, who played Joanie on "Happy Days."

Joanie makes me think of Chachi and how I always thought he could have done better.

Chachi makes me think of Scott Baio for obvious reasons, which makes me think of "Charles in Charge."

"Charles in Charge" makes me think of Peter Griffin singing that show's theme song on "Family Guy," which makes me think of how "Family Guy" creator Seth McFarlane looks a lot like my roommate from my first semester of college, who was a total doucheclown.

The word "doucheclown" reminds me of the time that I coined that word to describe a certain failed politician-turned-award-winning snake oil salesman, which makes me shake my head in disbelief.

Shaking my head in disbelief makes me think of my reaction when I first read that Jim Mora was being interviewed for the head coaching job for the Redskins.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 12:18 AM


Somewhere, Kevin Bacon is blushing. Prose on, sir freak!

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | January 17, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Why drink the haterade Lisa & Dorf? Tough crowd. Chick H

Posted by: ChickHernandez1 | January 17, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

Finger Eleven...Paralyzer...that brings back some 80's memories.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:14 AM

Possibly good candidates for blog names also?

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 17, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

Shaking my head in disbelief makes me think of my reaction when I first read that Jim Mora was being interviewed for the head coaching job for the Redskins.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 12:18 AM

AKA 6 degrees of desperation.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 17, 2008 3:35 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 17, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Is Shawn's dad basically guaranteed to end his life in a coma?

Posted by: PBL4 | January 17, 2008 01:30 AM

There has not been any recent news regarding Ron Springs. The last reports indicated that in the absence of a miracle, the family would have a very difficult decision to make at some point.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 17, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps a point of view that is pertinent to Gregg Williams.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/01/15/coaches/index.html

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 17, 2008 3:48 AM | Report abuse

GOOD NEWS hamsters! Dorf gets a snow day!

Posted by: Dorf | January 17, 2008 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 17, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ocho, the thing that kills me about that coach search graphic is that its timeline extends to Valentine's Day.

Good grief, one week of this has been torture. Can you imagine if this dragged out for five or six weeks?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

I am with you Nate. I really hope this thing ends this weekend.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Sportsradio out here says Mora has been offered 'Skins HC position during visit with Snyder.

Posted by: Seattleskin | January 17, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Sportsradio out here says Mora has been offered 'Skins HC position during visit with Snyder.

Posted by: Seattleskin | January 17, 2008 08:06 AM

Sportradio out there is dreaming and wishing. Snyder can't offer the job to anyone until he's interviewed a minority candidate.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Sportsradio out here says Mora has been offered 'Skins HC position during visit with Snyder.

Posted by: Seattleskin | January 17, 2008 08:06 AM

Can anyone validate this?

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Can anyone validate this?

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 08:25 AM

No, you can't validate it because it never happened. It would be a blatant violation of the Rooney Rule. Snyder's not stupid and he has enough problems with his image without doing something like this.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm hearing all these rumors (Scheffter from NFL N included) that Mora Jr. has been offered the HC job.

This can't be true, can it? For starters they haven't interviewed a minority candidate yet. Second, how in the world can you spend 4 years and 40 hours (interviews this week) with Grilliams, then offer the job to Mora Jr. after 1 day?
Third, what continuity would Mora Jr. offer this team? Haven't they stressed that in every news blurb you've read and watched?

Posted by: RickyBobby | January 17, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Jim Mora Jr. is a complete JackAss.

Posted by: bigmurf08 | January 17, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I think that everyone should slow down on the Mora Jr. mockfest. He very well be the head coach very soon...

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

sams3--

We can't mock the guy because he might be head coach? Where is this rule written? What fun would RI be if we couldn't mock the head coach?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

well, nobody knows who exactly has been interviewed so far. mystery interviews have popped up daily over here, williams' supposed 1st interview all of a sudden became his 2nd, then 3rd. it's completely conceivable that snyder has already interviewed a minority candidate, and nobody knew about/made it public.

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Talent,

Very true, I don't mean don't mock him. I mean we don't want to discredit him completely.

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe that Mora was offered the job.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

NFL.com, ESPN, and SI have nothing about this.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

If Mora had been offered the job he would have accepted and they'd be having a press conference.

This is probably something that Mora's agent has put out there to get Mora a better deal in Seattle. It's like in free agency where every guy's agent claims that he's just gotten off the phone with Dan Snyder and his client will be the highest-paid Redskin in the illustrious history of overpaid Redskins.

What Dan actually said to Mora was "If George Bush serves a third term as President, you'll be the next head coach." And the agent selectively twisted that into "you'll be the next head coach."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

i agree, i also don't believe he's been offered the position.

it would make sense to me that he had already interviewed a minority candidate and not told anyone. this would take the pressure away from having to name williams the head coach so soon (assuming he doesn't want williams), and it would allow him to give an unexpected strike to any potential interviewees, being able to offer the job on the spot.

of course, my money's still on GG getting the gig.

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

t_e, I agree with you that this rumor about a job offer would appear to be the work of a sly agent or some such as. Has as much credence as the rumors about talking to Cowher and about current staff members calling their realtors. Phooey.

Cannot believe you would pick a defensive-minded dude who came off a good but by no means great three-year head coaching run and has lately been working as an assistant for another team over a defensive-minded dude who came off a good but by no means great three-year head coaching run and has for four years been one of the two top assistant coaches for your team.

But what the hell do I know. Snyder has stunned us before, and he'll stun us again.

There's just something unlikeable about this Jim L. Mora, and that is a not-super-impressive HC record plus his disavowal of what sounded to me like a pretty honest promise to take the UW job even if the Falcons were in a playoff run.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

As soon as mora left the falcons became a joke, he couldn't have been that bad.

P.S I hope no one tries to tell me this is because Mike Vick is gone because he isn't any good.

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Nate,

I don't understand why they'd even bother to interview the guy. But if they were seriously considering him, then this leak would surely sour them on him and his agent.

--Bruce

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

sams3--

Vick was a lot better than the guys who replaced him. And Mora was a lot better than the guy who replaced him.

That franchise is a wreck, and it has been for a while. Who'd you rather have for owner, Snyder or (the aptly named) Blank? Wait, I'll answer that question after we see who Snyder chooses as HC.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

vick wasn't a great passer, but don't mistake that with not being a good player. that entire offense was designed around vick, and there's not another quarterback in the league that can replace what he can do on the field. he opens holes for every other player on offense, simply by the defense always needing to keep 2 sets of eyes on him at all times. when the falcons beat favre in lambeau, i don't remember it being some genius gameplan devised by mora. it was vick being vick, doing what he did best. he hurts them sometimes, be also helps them a lot more. vick is much more of a reason for the falcons drop-off than mora was.

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Please tell me this is not true! Today is my birthday and I decided it was a good time to change my attitude for the better, etc. But Snyder hiring Mora will change my attitude for the worst!

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I would actually prefer Blank...he hasnt owned the team that long so hard to judge....

But whateves...on to rampant speculation and over reaction.....If Mora Jr. is the guy I am going to wretch all over my shoes, lick it up and than puke it up again. I would prefer Weird Al over him, the ball boy, anyone. Just dont like the cat...

And Sams3 this is my motto "I mock therefore I am"

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Happy birthday Lisa, don't let football drag you down, have a good day! And remember Thursday is the new Friday so party down and burn a sick day on the "day after your birthday"...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Happy birthday, Lisa!

Go ahead and change your attitude for the better! Have faith that something good will come of this search, no matter how things appear to us (based on virtually no information) at this moment!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Sparano is a miserable choice. His offense is designed for druids.

Garrett was obviously a product of his inherited players. When they weren't playing well, he had nuthin'.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 16, 2008 11:33 PM

I'm glad to see you haven't got all bitter and twisted about this SMACK.

As for SpaDrano, as far as I'm concerned you can have him back!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the birthday wishes!

I'm just really worried because if Adam Schefter (NFL Network) says something it tends to be true.

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Happy birthday Lisa!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Happy birthday, Lisa, don't worry, be happy.

Cl, you sound like my dog with that shoe thing. You don't eat cat poop, too?

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 17, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

there was a decent espn article on gibbs a couple days ago (maybe a week ago, can't remember). it went over the relationship between cooke, beathard, and gibbs. from what i read, cooke was every bit as hot-headed and impulsive as snyder. when gibbs went 0-5 to start his first season, cooke yelled at beathard and gibbs, even giving coaching suggestions, and telling gibbs he played to predictable. all signs were that gibbs was on the hot seat at that time, it only happened that cooke calmed down because gibbs started winning so quickly. it seemed to me that snyder is just like cooke, only snyder hasn't found his man yet.

all it takes is for the owner to find that one guy. the one guy that can provide consistent success. snyder is an owner that will only look for the best. and he will never waver when it comes to dollar signs, something no fan can complain about. i think over time, snyder will be fine. all he needs to do is find his guy.

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Happy Birthday Lisa.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, JM, Redcoat, Mark, Chris Larry and Nate :)

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Jason, I am totally with you about Ray Brown. You obviously know him up close while I can glean an impression far away in rural Virginia watching his career and broadcasts on Comcast. He is a solid dude and why the Redskins let him get away is a huge issue. I know they cannot keep everyone, but this is a loss. I wish Mr. Brown a great career in coaching.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | January 17, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"It's your birthday, Lisa. Happy Birthday, Lisa." [sung to the tune of Bart Simpson and Michael Jackson, aka Leonard Crapowski, to Lisa Simpson]. Happy Birthday, Lisa! (for real).

---------------

"... (by the way, the wee little one started walking last weekend!)"

Posted by: 4-12 | January 16, 2008 06:48 PM

4-12, welcome to the worst part of being a parent. As soon as they can walk, they can walk away (though this part is slightly better than "as soon as they can talk, they can talk back"). Now begins nostalgia, though you might not notice it till you get to the far side of diapers. Nostalgic feelings lead to feelings of mortality, and then, the inevitability of death. [No one over thinks sween.] Thank the heavens for digital cameras ... get a tape recorder now. You won't need it for a while, but don't procrastinate b/c if you do, you won't get around to it till too late. Tempus fugit.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Okay, psps23, I'll bite on this...

JKC became majority owner in 1974; nine seasons and two coaching changes later, Gibbs won the SB, in what was his second season as head coach.

Snyder became majority owner in 1999; this fall we'll be on his tenth season and fifth head coach (plus Robinsky)...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

"Dan doesn't have a pet monkey does he?"

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 16, 2008 07:10 PM

No, but Mora does. Its name is Cleats and he doesn't leave home without it ... or The Map or Backpack (aka Mochila ... "yum yum yum yum yum, deLIciOso!"). Mora the Explorer.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I am going to be so upset if he goes with Mora. Damn he just got to f things up.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Hey Mark (from the Future), are you anywhere near Annapolis?

I have to spend a few days there at the beginning of February while we have our start of year 'kickoff' event. Maybe I can sneak away one evening for a beer if you are close by.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

LMGO 'sween!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Start of year kickoff event in February? Dude, your company is seriously behind the power curve. No one kicks off in February except the Patriots.

Wait, maybe you're way ahead -- are you kicking off 2008 or 2009?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

In fact it works out pretty well t_e, instead of having the year-end on 12/31 when you can't get anyone to make any decisions (or spend money on our stuff) in December, we actually have our last month of the financial year in January when everyone is back to work! Pretty smart huh? I take no credit for it though...

Actually I guess this really makes us mildly tarded as we are only starting 2008 then!!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Is Mora hispanic? "Mora" is the Spanish (Spain spanish) word for blueberry.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

We don't have to like the way he goes about it, but can we all atleast agree that Snyder does what he feels is in the best interest of the team winning?

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

OK I do not believe that Mora was offered the job. There is noting on any of the sports sites about it. And my DC source (taking one out of JLC book) is telling me nothing is being reported on 980.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Happy Birthday, Lisa!

We could kill two birds with one stone by meeting up for dinner tonight, huh?

How about a nice juicy steak and some meatballs for dinner?

Moooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: RickyBobby | January 17, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Happy B-Day Lisa!

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

sween,

Hispanic? Doubt it. How about Roman? It's a Latin word meaning "The minimal unit of metrical time in quantitative verse, equal to the short syllable." As in "Coach Short Syllable."

I guess I would change my name to Coach Blueberry.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

If Mora is name the coach we will be looking for another coach in 2-3 years. F him and the Dan if he does this.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

JKC became majority owner in 1974; nine seasons and two coaching changes later, Gibbs won the SB, in what was his second season as head coach.

Snyder became majority owner in 1999; this fall we'll be on his tenth season and fifth head coach (plus Robinsky)...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 09:46 AM

Nate


Let's look at Danny's past five coaches

1. Norv
2. Robiskie (interim)
3. Marty
4. The ole ball coach
5. Gibbs

Robiskie was an interim. What was he going to do? Leave the position empty after he fired Norval? That should not count in the numbers. Spurrier quit on him and St Joe retired. The only people he a had direct hand in was Marty and Norv. Not to mention Marty was after the 2001 season (six years ago). I think he gets a bad wrap for "ALL" the coaching changes since he owned the team.

Posted by: roweq | January 17, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Just wanted to let y'all know, you're fantastic. As a 'Skins-crazy, former DC-area resident now stuck in the middle of NC, I thank y'all for keeping me in the 'Skins loop ... and for being entertaining as well.

Hail 'Skins in '08!

Posted by: ksimonetti | January 17, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

The Burning of the Ticket Invoice Party is less than 2 months away. Where should I hold this event? FedEx Field Parking Lot? Redskin Park? Slaughter house for Lisa?

Posted by: RickyBobby | January 17, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

jm220--

Regardless of who is named coach, he's probably on a short leash. Once Cowher hits the market, hormones will start racing through Mr. Snyder's body. Anything short of the playoffs next year could mean "one and done."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Until profootballtalk.com reports the Mora rumor, I say its not a real rumor ... more like a real estate rumor.

chRIs Larry ... I thought you could play Halo against somebody over the phone or interwebtubes, i.e., that you didn't need to fly in for it.

Also, I kind of liked the image of Redskins Manor. Kind of stately ... like Wayne Manor. But the following scares me:

"Adam Schefter (NFL Network) just reported that Snyder flew his private plane out to Seattle to pick up Jim Mora today and that Mora will spend the night at Snyders "compound" tonight....said Mora looks like a hot candidate."

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 16, 2008 06:49 PM

"Compound" sounds kind of ... Branch Davidian.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

roweq,

That's fair enough. Another point is that it's not as though Snyder's fired anyone who has amounted to anything as a head coach. Marty got fired in San Diego and Turner got fired in Miami and in Oakland.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

roweq, I don't quite see your points.

I was just following up on psps23's note about how Cooke, theretofore known as something of a hothead, finally found "that one guy" in Gibbs and became owner of a championship team.

We all have to hope that this search yields "that one guy" and that Snyder goes from despised owner to somewhat less despised owner of a championship team.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

RC,

I live in northern Harford County, about 3 miles from PA. Annapolis is a good hour and 30 minutes away, but not out of the realm of possibilities. If the weather is good and the stars are aligned right, I might be able to make it.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 17, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

dcsween,

well played.

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

To continue the late night discussion:

My wife took me to the HOF for my 30th bday (9 years ago). We flew into and stayed in Cleveland, and made the drive to Canton for an afternoon (1-2 hour drive if I remember correctly). It was not an induction weekend or anything, so it only took us about 3 hours to get through everything. To be honest, I was slightly underwhelmed......I had a pretty big build up in my head, I guess. Hall of busts is okay, but I was expecting alot more info/highlights on each inductee, and actually thought there would be a tv with NFL films running for each person inducted. Instead it was just a very small bio on each palyer in the hall of busts. The coolest part is the section where each team has a display; photos, actual games jerseys, balls, etc. Took lost of pics there. Tampa Bay was sad; just one inductee.....There is a little movie theatre with the standard NFL films 10 minute piece, lots of random booths and displays, and of course a gift shop, which had some pretty good stuff. This was 9 years ago so it is probably much better now. If anyone goes, definitely stay in Cleveland. The warehouse district was awesome; very inner harbor/fell point, but smaller. LOTS of good bars and restaurants. Wouldn't want to live there, but it is nice to visit. Rock and roll hall of fame is right there, and that was pretty cool too...

Posted by: dlhaze | January 17, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Mark (from the Future),

Is that the part of MD that says "here there be dragons" on the map?

Drop me a line at usredcoat at gmail dot com, and we'll see if we can work something out. Maybe I can venture out from Annapolis and meet you somewhere a little closer to you - if those stars align right!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

t_e, roweq, I think what you guys are saying is that Snyder has been unfairly blamed for... something. Debatable.

The bottom line is that he has employed four-going-on-five head coaches, and none of them thus far has led us to that deal where the Lombardi is hoisted. Something Snyder has in common with, what, the owners of 25 other franchises during his tenure.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Well now, that was awfully Obvious of me.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Let me know if you guys choose Burtonsville MD, or its friendly confines, as your midway point.

Happy Birthday, Lisa. A fellow Capricorn, or are you...uh, the next one?

Go Giants!

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Nate

I know what you were responding to. We all hope that he has changed. Time will tell. I was just replying to the statement about the number of coaches.

Posted by: roweq | January 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey Nate, I meant to ask you something.

What's with all the ads for your company during the NFL games lately? Is the average NFL fan one of your core demographics or something? And is that "your" product that they are plugging there or are you the master of some deep/dark part of that business?

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Did we miss your birthday up here, SMACK?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_(astrology)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

ESPN has a breaking news alert ... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3200822

SMACK, no we will indeed find out if "fraud is as fraud does" (whatever that means).

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, shhh!

That's a particular partnership so you'll see "us" on the football and the baseball as well.

And that's not "my" product, but I sort of have a stake in it. I'm working on some other stuff related to that. Really. I'm totally working. Right now.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

some one mention that ESPN Mock Draft mentioned us taking Limas Sweed...i think he would be a good adition...we need a reaciver for jump ball situations or a guy that can go up high to get the ball...he is 6" 4 1/2'...runs a 4.4...and has great athletism...great hands...and is said to have been Top 10 quality if not for the broken wrist midway through his senior season

Posted by: the_crazy_one17 | January 17, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

That ESPN report says Jason Garrett will "remain" the offensive coordinator. I thought Sporano was the OC and Garrett was the QB coach. Did I mis-get that?

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

RC,

I haven't seen any dragons for awhile. However, we do have a skunk who frequents our barn. The barn cat is nice enough to share his food with the skunk, who seems to be a very mellow creature, not disturbed by our presence.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 17, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

980 just announced that Jason Garrett will be staying with the Cowboys....they said nothing about the Skins.

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Re: Sweed, I repeat my call for fans of The U about Lance Leggett. Great junior campaign but didn't even start every game as a senior. Any idea why? The intergooglewebs are failing me.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I gotcha, roweq. Not trying to be overly contentious on this deal.

Just hoping the next guy WINS, of course, and sticks around a while so we don't have to go through all this drama any time soon.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

dcsween..i have no idea who you are taking about..but as long as he can get a tall reciever like Plaxico Buress without all those injury problems would be nice

Posted by: the_crazy_one17 | January 17, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I tried to be vague enough to allow anyone to identify you Nate! I know you're working on the super-secret "Winged Unicorn" project and obviously I don't want to blow that for you.

I was just sort-of intrigued as to who you guys are trying to reach advertising there. Drop me a line sometime, I'm always interested to talk marketing jibba-jabba too!

SMACK, if Mark and I are able to arrange something I'll email you too. I'll be stuck out there probably from the evening of 2/4 through lunchtime on 2/8. I know we have a "team-building dinner" (ugh) one night, but there is bound to be some time I can carve out. The least I can do is buy you a beer for your 'Boys sending us Tony Spanokopita.


Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

crazyone17, Limas Sweed is the name/face for the first round. Lance Leggett is a graduating senior from The U ... 6'3", 195 pounds, and runs a 40 in 4.45. I find it on one of the draft mockery sites. I was just wondering whether he was a sleeper pick, or just asleep.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Oh and Jeff Ireland, and Brian Gaine...

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Nate, are you the Flomax guy?

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

dcsween...ohh okay..kool..but i would personally take Limas Sweed..he is faster...taller...etc..but we dont decide who the skins chose to take..if you noctice none of our recievers are taller that 5' 11"...Jason Cambell needs a guy to throw a jump ball to in the corner of the endzone..maybe like a Plaxico Burress...or Vincent Jackson

Posted by: the_crazy_one17 | January 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Smack, I am in fact a Capricorn...right on the edge of Aquarius.

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

the dawn of aquarius

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Happy belated birthday, SMACK, fellow Capricorn.

Your Flomax gift pak is in the mail.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Actually SMACK, Nate was the guy who originally wrote the immortal copy "if you have an *cough* lasting more than four hours you should contact your doctor". :)

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Smack's getting Flomax? I thought he was flumoxxed.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 17, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Aquarius and my name is Ralph
Now I like a woman who loves her freedom
And I like a woman who can hold her own
And if you fit that description, baby, come with me...

Aren't you glad you missed Aquarius Lisa!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

SMACK, if Mark and I are able to arrange something I'll email you too. I'll be stuck out there probably from the evening of 2/4 through lunchtime on 2/8. I know we have a "team-building dinner" (ugh) one night, but there is bound to be some time I can carve out. The least I can do is buy you a beer for your 'Boys sending us Tony Spanokopita.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 10:46 AM

I'll accept the beer while I can get it, because at the end of the season I will probably owe you a house. I am in the MIA watching the SB with friends and fam from Feb. 1-5, but if you do something after that, definitely let me know.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat bring back a old classic. Float on. Float on.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

How's the weather for you Mark and JM? We're getting what looks to be some good snow falling here in NoVA.

Just worried about the wife and young-un getting home from school right now, those legendarily bad DC-area snow drivers are out there...

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Happy B-day Lisa.

(Yes, I'm late to the party as always.)

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind Jim Mora as our HC. Look at what happened to the Falcons after he left? And poor Arthur Blank. Couldn't have happened to a more decent guy.

I doubt the Mora-to-DC rumors are true, though.

Posted by: PBL4 | January 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

As is always the case it seems, Richmond has had the teasing initial snowfall which has now turned into cold rain.

My kids were itching for a snow day too.

Posted by: mmok | January 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Nostalgic feelings lead to feelings of mortality, and then, the inevitability of death. [No one over thinks sween.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 09:45 AM

jm220- Can you conjur up one of your daily affirmations for dcsween? That, or else he needs a hug.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

You're welcome to it today mmok. My outlaws down in (Harry Dean) Staunton, VA are getting LOTS of the stuff too!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Thanks 4-12!

Redcoat, I would actually prefer to be an Aquarian.

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat- I was thinking along the lines of the "works for up to 36 hours" drug regarding Nate and his, um, project.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Love is often presented as the opposite of fear, but true love is not opposite anything. True love is far more powerful than any negative emotions, as it is the environment in which all things arise. Negative emotions are like sharks swimming in the ocean of love. All things beautiful and fearful, ugly and kind, powerful and small, come into existence, do their thing, and disappear within the context of this great ocean. At the same time, they are made of the very love in which they swim and can never be separated. We are made of this love and live our whole lives at one with it, whether we know it or not.

It is only the illusion that we are separate from this great love that causes us to believe that choosing anything other than love makes sense or is even possible. In the relative, dualistic world of positive and negative, darkness and light, male and female, we make choices and we learn from them. This is exactly what we are meant to be doing here on earth. Underlying these relative choices, though, is the choice to be conscious of what we are, which is love, or to be unconscious of it. When we choose to be conscious of it, we choose love. We will still exist in the relative world of opposites and choices and cause and effect, and we will need to make our way here, but doing so with an awareness that we are all made of this love will enable us to be more playful, more joyful, more loving and wise, as we make our way. Ultimately, the choices we make will shed light on the love that makes us all one, enabling those who have forgotten to return to the source.

This world makes it easy to forget this great love, which is part of why we are here. We are here to remember and, when we forget to remember again, to choose love.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

That would be entirely apt 4-12..... :)

Why's that Lisa? I must confess profound ignorance of astrology. And I'm a Scorpio, is that what I'm supposed to do?

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"I got your love choice right here....in my pants....OHHHHHHH"

Andrew "Dice" LaRrY

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

If you ever look at Richmond on a radar map during a winter storm, it always snows all around us (including Staunton) and we get stuck with the rain, or worse the freezing rain. I don't think we've had a significant snowfall in 4 or 5 years. That's why I kind of wish for the snow.....

And by the way,

Happy Birthday Lisa
Yes to Greg Williams
No to anyone else
Go Packers
Go Chargers

Fox News dot com has picked up the Muslim runner story from AP

Will miss Ray Brown on Comcast

Call of Duty 4 is more fun than Halo on XBox IMO

There, I think I got it all:)


Posted by: mmok | January 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Excellent jm. Now he just needs a Sallie Mae hug.

Redcoat- Crofton here, so Annapolis has become the stomping ground of choice for the missus and I. Let me know if you need suggestions re: dining, drinking, maps, etc.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

"I got your love choice right here....in my pants....OHHHHHHH"

Andrew "Dice" LaRrY

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 11:43 AM

Sounds more like the Todd from Scrubs.
Or Quagmire.....

Posted by: dlhaze | January 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, we Capricorns are steady and stubborn. I'd say that fits both of our profiles up here pretty well. I'm the 7th and it was the big 40! So this has plunged me into depths of misery well beyond the scope of playoff losses and comical Cowboy hysterics. Have at me, I'm older than Brett Favre. (But not as old as Vinnie Testaverde).

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

LIGHT SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO OVERSPREAD NORTHERN AND CENTRAL MARYLAND THROUGH NOON. A HEAVIER BAND OF SNOW WILL MOVE FROM SOUTH
TO NORTH THROUGH THE BALTIMORE METRO AREA BETWEEN NOON AND 1 PM. THIS BAND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE SNOWFALL RATES OF 1 TO 2
INCHES AN HOUR.

I am a Loco Mullin impersonator. It started to snow in Pylesville around 11:30.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 17, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Things that make you go hmmmm on a snowy thursday:

- Interviewing Gregg 4 times
- Bringing in Mora all the way from Seattle for a sleep over
- jm220 writing about love

HMMMMmmmmm....

Could GG be falling a bit?

Posted by: JoeyV | January 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

SMACK clearly washed his sheets on his birthday; maybe even washed the Romo jersey.
And here we all thought the problem was Cabo.
The jinx was on!

Happy birthday Lisa!

Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Thanks daggar and mmok! No one would ever accuse me of being stubborn, right ? :)

Redcoat, I would absolutely LOVE to be a Scorpio. They are intense, passionate, sexy.

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

JoeyV I didn't write it my friend. But your post did make me laugh.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Has it occured to anyone else that perhaps nobody wants the Redskins job? Or at least quality up-and-coming and those with a proven track record? It's not like Washington is a storied franchise any longer, or has a bright future with the numerous cap and front office issues.

Hopefully this is not the case, but I'm just saying...

Posted by: rbrtsnode | January 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

jm220, sheewww, I thought the world was changing! :) Glad it made you laugh!

Posted by: JoeyV | January 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Scorpio in the house...

just sayin'

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Back to Ray Brown for a minute. I'm in the process of unpacking from my recent move and last night I found an old WaPo Sports section I'd saved from Dec. 18 2004. I have no idea why I saved this particular one, but it featured a huge photo of Ray Brown in his Redskins uniform and gear.

Face/age-wise, he looked just like he did in the studio...which means it was kind of like seeing Chick Hernandez dressed up like a Skins player. Kind of.

But not really.

Posted by: redskirt | January 17, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Very nice words, jm220. Now if people could just focus on the 95% of things they all have in common (rather than the 5% that makes them different), the world could be a much better place.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

washington is by far the best option out there. its got a rabid fan-base, a rich tradition, an owner who will spend daylights of money for players (not to mention will pay the coach probably close to double of his actual value), and the skins have by far the most talented team of those available.

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Warning - really long posting coming up about wide receivers in the draft.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I found this on a website called www.nfldraftcountdown.com. It is a list of the top ten rated wide receivers in the upcoming draft. After the top 10 are all the rated receivers listed who are at least 6'2. It doesn't look like the Redskins (or any other team) will have a problem finding a tall wide receiver in the draft. There is no need to waste a 1st round pick and money on an unknown quantity (like Westbrook and Gardner), when there are so many available who are both unknown AND inexpensive (2nd day draft picks). Hey look - there's Lance Leggett listed as the 34th best receiver in the draft as of now. If I was going to use a higher pick, I would take #5 , Devin Thomas. He is a receiver and a good return man. (#9 is Reche Caldwell's brother.)

1. DeSean Jackson California 6-0 172 4.35

2. Limas Sweed Texas 6-5 219 4.50

3. Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma 6-4 219 4.55

4. Early Doucet L.S.U. 6-0 207 4.50

5. Devin Thomas Michigan St. 6-2 218 4.50

6. Mario Manningham Michigan 6-0 178 4.45

7. James Hardy Indiana 6-7 220 4.60

8. Adarius Bowman Oklahoma St. 6-4 220 4.55

9. Andre Caldwell Florida 6-0 200 4.40

10. Earl Bennett Vanderbilt 6-1 202 4.55

13. Marcus Smith New Mexico 6-2 214 4.50

14. Keenan Burton Kentucky 6-2 195 4.50

16. D.J. Hall Alabama 6-3 186 4.50

18. William Franklin Missouri 6-2 205 4.45

20. Jordy Nelson Kansas St. 6-3 217 4.60

21. Jerome Simpson Coastal Carolina 6-2 185 4.60

22. Adrian Arrington Michigan 6-3 195 4.55

25. Steve Johnson Kentucky 6-3 198 4.55

27. Marcus Monk Arkansas 6-6 220 4.60

30. Paul Hubbard Wisconsin 6-4 213 4.50

31. Justin Harper Virginia Tech 6-4 214 4.55

32. Mario Urrutia Louisville 6-6 220 4.65

33. Todd Blythe Iowa St. 6-5 209 4.70

34. Lance Leggett Miami (FL) 6-3 192 4.45

35. Marcus Henry Kansas 6-4 210 4.60

36. Jason Rivers Hawaii 6-2 186 4.50

37. Maurice Purify Nebraska 6-4 220 4.65

38. Keith Brown Alabama 6-3 204 4.55

39. Mark Bradford Stanford 6-2 215 4.55

41. De'Cody Fagg Florida St. 6-3 211 4.50

45. Evan Moore Stanford 6-7 236 4.70

47. Edward Williams Lane 6-4 215 4.60

48. Amarri Jackson South Florida 6-5 195 4.60

50. Tony Burks Mississippi St. 6-4 217 4.60

51. Travis Brown New Mexico 6-3 202 4.65

52. Bruce Hocker Duquesne 6-4 205 4.55

53. Cameron Colvin Oregon 6-2 207 4.60

58. Ernie Wheelwright Minnesota 6-5 215 4.55

59. Shaheer McBride Delaware St. 6-3 200 4.65

60. Arman Shields Richmond 6-2 185 4.55

(Sorry for the really long post.)

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

2. Limas Sweed Texas 6-5 219 4.50

Fairly good speed for someone his height and weight.

Posted by: JoeyV | January 17, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

does everyone here actually think we should be looking at receivers in the draft (esp. 1st round)? or is it just fun to talk about them because they're more glamorous than the o-line help we really need?

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I have to distance myself from the astrology talk. Can't have that as part of my legacy up here. But wow, the snow is really coming down.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Sweed is fast but he's not quick.

Sween is quick but he's not guy.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

psps -

That is my point. Yesterday, that blurb about Limas Sweed was posted about 5 times. But there is no need to draft a wide receiver in the early rounds when there are so many tall possession receivers available in this year's draft. Everyone complains about the pass rush, and it won't get fixed without a top notch prospect (because the cost of a free agent DE is prohibitive). Everyone worries about the pass defense, but Asante Samuel is going to want $10 million/year. Good luck fitting that under the cap, so a draft choice is dictated. Third round is looking like a good spot to get a really good guard prospect. Need a possession-type WR? Rounds #5, 6, and 7 (or undrafted) will do just fine.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

rbrtsnode I'll throw this theory out:

Dan Snyder has done everything perfectly up to this point.

He tried to talk Joe into staying. He has interviewed Gregg 4 times, and three of the interviews seem to have come around the interviews of OTHER candidates.

I'll stop there for a second. This is pretty darn impressive. Gregg has been kept in the loop, and has had the opportunity to "interview" after another candidate has come in. Dan is playing this way better than I would have thought. Giving Gregg the opportunity to avoid media speculation, conjecture, and rumour and allowing him to be able to "go under hiding" from the media outlets(this explains the lack of information except various candidates AND each time Gregg is interviewed.)because he has been KEPT in the loop.

He has also not fractured the fan base by interviewing any of the Dallas coordinators either.

He needed time in order to interview Meeks/Caldwell to clear the rooney rule stipulation and up until last weekend could not.

That is important because he is in protracted talks with the league about hosting a superbowl after the completion of a retractable roof stadium on the current RFK site.

He also has time on his side with Williams and the hiring of a coach, because is Williams IS the next head coach, He and Dan as well have a pretty good idea of what they are going to do already in the off season.

I would imagine that they are discussing OC and DC positions together and that they are interviewing the candidates in order to get a handle on any updates in philosophies around the league.

This is important because if Saunders stays and Gray is named DC then, it is a whole internal move, and Daniel and Gregg would have to have some sort of indication on how the philosophies inside Redskins park compare to those around the league. And the easiest way to do that is to ask top coordinators around the league under the gise of an interview.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I want o-line and d-line early. Couple wide outs I like alot who could be had later in the draft:
Arrington, Monk(Marcus), Purify, and William Franklin.
No need to go early on wr's this year!

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 17, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I'll also say that I like Adrian Arrington from UM. 6'2/6'2.5 ish pretty good speed and in three season at Michigan seemed to catch everything.

If we go DE-OL-LB-CB-

Arrington could fit the bill in the later rounds.

He is like Jason Avant for the eagles in terms of hands and routes with two extra inches and more speed.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

puttin -

I saw alot of Jordy Nelson and Marcus Henry (two guys at Kansas/KSU) and they looked pretty good also.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Arrington is pretty good, Im a michigan fan so Ive watched him for a couple seasons. he has good hands definatly not a game breaker like manningham was, but has more bulk and will catch just about everything thown at him, good at getting open I dont remember him doing much after the catch though due to him not having top speed compared to some other guys.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Back from a mandatory snowman-building break!

4-12, I may well take you up on that. I think we're having an organized dinner at the Severn Inn one evening but may be able to go where I like apart from that.

That Scorpio description sounds just like me Lisa, maybe there's something to this astrology stuff after all. :-)

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

And Happy Bday Lisa

Geminis are cooler than scorpios though.

The snow is coming down pretty good here in Tysons, not looking forward to the road home though, my 30 min commute is going to turn into 2 hours.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

taf: I like Henry also. Ommited him for some reason. Saw him play quite a bit as well.
I think Monk is a sleeper in this draft, cause he was hurt most of the year and Arkansas couldn't throw the ball this year. Plus It would be cool to see a Monk in burgundy and gold again.

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 17, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

2006 season statistics of UM receivers.

RECEIVING GP No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------
Breaston, Steve 13 58 670 11.6 2 62 51.5
Arrington, A. 13 40 544 13.6 8 37 41.8
Manningham, M. 10 38 703 18.5 9 69 70.3

http://www.mgoblue.com/football/article.aspx?id=39894

2007 stats:

RECEIVING GP No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------
Manningham, M. 12 72 1174 16.3 12 97 97.8
Arrington, A. 13 67 882 13.2 8 39 67.8

I thought that this was interesting taken from the official site of UM.


Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

HAPPY 29TH BIRTHDAY LISA!!!!!!!!!!

hugs and kisses!

Posted by: dealer | January 17, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

SAK -

I thought Arrington looked really good in the Bowl game against Florida. The problem with Manningham is he isn't really tall enough. With a possession receiver, moving the sticks on 3rd down is more important that yards after the catch. We need someone tall with good hands who can get the 1st down when it is 3rd and 8.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Plus It would be cool to see a Monk in burgundy and gold again.

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 17, 2008 12:39 PM

I agree, I havent scene much about him except on here.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"does everyone here actually think we should be looking at receivers in the draft (esp. 1st round)?"

Posted by: psps23 | January 17, 2008 12:14 PM

You mean OTHER than Matt Millen?

jm220, thx ... and I agree that the opposite of love is not fear. The opposite of love is laziness.

Also, gnome football anyone?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/webcams/snowcam.htm

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

there was a decent espn article on gibbs a couple days ago (maybe a week ago, can't remember). it went over the relationship between cooke, beathard, and gibbs. from what i read, cooke was every bit as hot-headed and impulsive as snyder. when gibbs went 0-5 to start his first season, cooke yelled at beathard and gibbs, even giving coaching suggestions, and telling gibbs he played to predictable. all signs were that gibbs was on the hot seat at that time, it only happened that cooke calmed down because gibbs started winning so quickly. it seemed to me that snyder is just like cooke, only snyder hasn't found his man yet.

all it takes is for the owner to find that one guy. the one guy that can provide consistent success. snyder is an owner that will only look for the best. and he will never waver when it comes to dollar signs, something no fan can complain about. i think over time, snyder will be fine. all he needs to do is find his guy.

Posted by: psps23 | January 17, 2008 09:29 AM


And therein lies the rub. That ONE guy we're looking for isn't the coach. He's Beathards equivalent. And unfortunately we're not looking for him.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

SAK2 what do you know about a2?

I'm from Saline, but grew up behind Pioneer HS, beside the church.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I'll say this in Mario's favor, he gets open. He also had some of his best games when Hart was out.

Problem is: He'll get drafted too high, and he is VERY injury prone

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

That is important because he is in protracted talks with the league about hosting a superbowl after the completion of a retractable roof stadium on the current RFK site.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:22 PM

Is this true? I mean about Snyder planning to build a retractable roof stadium on the current RFK site.

Posted by: redskirt | January 17, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Happy Birthday, Lisa. (Based on RickyBobby's comments, are you a vegetarian?)

Enjoy your day!

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

rbrtsnode I'll throw this theory out:

Dan Snyder has done everything perfectly up to this point.

He tried to talk Joe into staying. He has interviewed Gregg 4 times, and three of the interviews seem to have come around the interviews of OTHER candidates.

I'll stop there for a second. This is pretty darn impressive. Gregg has been kept in the loop, and has had the opportunity to "interview" after another candidate has come in. Dan is playing this way better than I would have thought. Giving Gregg the opportunity to avoid media speculation, conjecture, and rumour and allowing him to be able to "go under hiding" from the media outlets(this explains the lack of information except various candidates AND each time Gregg is interviewed.)because he has been KEPT in the loop.

He has also not fractured the fan base by interviewing any of the Dallas coordinators either.

He needed time in order to interview Meeks/Caldwell to clear the rooney rule stipulation and up until last weekend could not.

That is important because he is in protracted talks with the league about hosting a superbowl after the completion of a retractable roof stadium on the current RFK site.

He also has time on his side with Williams and the hiring of a coach, because is Williams IS the next head coach, He and Dan as well have a pretty good idea of what they are going to do already in the off season.

I would imagine that they are discussing OC and DC positions together and that they are interviewing the candidates in order to get a handle on any updates in philosophies around the league.

This is important because if Saunders stays and Gray is named DC then, it is a whole internal move, and Daniel and Gregg would have to have some sort of indication on how the philosophies inside Redskins park compare to those around the league. And the easiest way to do that is to ask top coordinators around the league under the gise of an interview.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Thats was his first big game, but it was a good time to have a good game, when everyone is watching. I would love to see another UM player in a skins uniform, I have nothing against him, hes just never been a #1 receiver I would like to see him in a #2 and randle-el in a slot. He will probubly be graded 4-6 round range in the draft.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The Washington post had extensive articles on this topic last summer.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

SAK2 what do you know about a2?

I'm from Saline, but grew up behind Pioneer HS, beside the church.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:42 PM

Not much unfortunatly, Ive grown up a Michigan fan but have yet to make my way up there to visit and go to a game, I didnt get into the school so Ive been stuck in the nova area.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Finding short receivers after they get open is the problem - everyone else in the game is getting taller all the time. JC doesn't seem to have any problem seeing Cooley; Moss and Randle El just seem to disappear in coverage half the time, though. A tall receiver with good hands is a handy asset, just like Art Monk was.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Summed up in a nutshell redskirt: Montgomery county does not want to allow Snyder out of his lease for the stadium(although snyder owns a great deal of the stadium), the county has to protect the investment that they made in the train station outside the stadium and the road work being done around the wilson bridge(as any va season ticket holder knows).

Snyder wants to build a mall on the current site, and also extend the sports education site as well(pr for the county).

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

F Retractable Roof
Football is meant to be played outside in the elements!

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 17, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Can we get a new post?

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Al Saunders does not run a Mouse Davis scheme, however KC didn't have many large wideouts during his time there. I remember Dante Hall playing a devon hester wr role for Al, and last season KC had to address that need by drafting Dwayne Bowe.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Dealer, SAK and Tafka for the birthday wishes.

Dealer, I truly wish I was only 29!

Takfa, yep...I'm a vegetarian....

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the Washington Post gang took a snow day (Jason and Cindy). The server doesn't seem to like the weather either.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

If nothing else, it would be a good excuse to open a turducken stand.

Not that you need an excuse for turducken.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 01:13 AM


Okay, does "turducken stand" sound like an unfortunately named break-away Czech republic, or is it just me?

(I'm confident we have covert plans to invade the place.)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

retractable roof is important to Snyder because he wants to host a super bowl in DC. Take a look outside, the only way to accomplish this would be to add the roof.

Depending on the design of the roof, it could also help in creating a perceptible 12th man in the form of an extra audible opponent.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - Have a nice birthday dinner then, without RickyBobby.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

seems eerily quite on this post.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Saline... I got married in Saline. I don't hold that against it in any way.

Speaking of UM players, it'll be interesting to see what happens to Henne. He may follow Brady's footsteps in that he won't be a high draft pick, and his injury history has to be troubling, but man he could make some really tight throws. Maybe NE will use it's #200 pick on him -- their current #3 QB spent some time at UM (as a second stringer)...

Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I understand the $$$ aspect of the retractable roof. I just hate the idea. If you really want to go that route, do something like Seattle(booooo) and have the majority of the seats covered, but let the field be open to the elements. Just my humble opinion.
Taking a look outside doesn't help me here, but I understand it's a winterwonderland today.

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 17, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Okay, does "turducken stand" sound like an unfortunately named break-away Czech republic, or is it just me?

(I'm confident we have covert plans to invade the place.)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 01:01 PM

I think thats where the movie Borat was filmed in.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

If he does go with the roof, it had better make our stadium noisier than that taco the Seahawks call home.

Because we'd be giving up a heck of a lot more in terms our late season prowess in road games to cold weather cities, and football being played the way it was meant to be played.

F domes

F retractable roofs

and F the Super Bowl coming to Washington, if one of those is the price tag.

Posted by: redskirt | January 17, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

There are probably no turducken stands in Turkmenistan.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

dbuss, FedEx field is in P.G. county, WMATA (via the Council of Gov'ts) is the one who builds/operates Metro stations (not the county), and Wilson bridge work is with State/Commonwealth money (and matching federal funds).

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Agreed 100% Redskirt!!

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 17, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

daggar: I agree, I tried about two days ago to defend the merits of drafting henne in the 6th round of the draft. However it that lead to the merits of Jason Cambell etc.

Henne could serve some team as a great 3rd teamer and back up in 09. He is extremely smart(current 3.6 gpa) and I love his ability to throw timing patterns.

Shawn Crable could turn into a physical SS type play a weakside rush lb in a 34.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

"... Speaking of UM players, it'll be interesting to see what happens to Henne. He may follow Brady's footsteps in that he won't be a high draft pick, and his injury history has to be troubling, but man he could make some really tight throws. ..."

Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2008 01:05 PM

Don't you mean "The Todd's footsteps". In the U of M gunslinger category, Tom Brady has nothing on The Todd.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

If we go back to the draft for a #3 QB, my choice would be John David Booty. Primarily for the name ... combo pirate/porn star.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I read somewhere that Henne is expected to go in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. That seems about right, since the QB class isn't all that great this year.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

thanks dcsween: had three seperate issues rolled into one...overall County benefits from Fed Ex field on each level.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Sween - If you made a few phone calls, you could probably sign his older brother for vet minimum (Josh Booty).

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Don't you think it equally unfortunate that a culinary delicacy should have the word turd embedded in it?

Can you hear yourself ordering it at a restaurant?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Henne would be great to get in the 6th to replace brunell. He has a good arm is michigans alltime leading passer, and thats saying quite a bit if you look at the qbs that have been there. I think there are more UM qb's in the league than anyother schools.
Crable is a beast but doesnt play 100% every down. still wouldnt mind seeing him in a skins uniform but i would rather us get a position we need a little more in the 2nd.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

And why not stuff the chicken with a quail? And stuff the quail with...er...a ...a bat?

(Yeah, that's the ticket, a bat!)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

the QB class isn't all that great this year.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 01:15 PM

I disagree I think its going to be a deep class for qbs. Last i saw henne was rated as the 10-15th best. brohm, david-booty, brennen, there are going to be some good qbs in the draft, but I dont think there are alot of teams drafting for qb this year either.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

WOW, 2nd or 3rd round?

Brohm, Ryan, Woodson, Flacco, Dixon, Henne, Ainge, Reid

I can see three quarterbacks in round 1, but there seems to be a large drop off in talent after woodson.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Sure, when it could have just as easily been called a "Duckenturk". (Maybe that would have insulting to the Turks. Who knows.)

Chickduckey?

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"... That seems about right, since the QB class isn't all that great this year."

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 01:15 PM

I recall a few days ago that someone was pimping the QB from Delaware ... real tall guy, I think his name was something like Freakko.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to whoever dropped the John Bigbootay reference up here a few days ago.

As if I didn't already stumble over John David Booty's name ever time I read it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Left Booty off the list...damn me.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 17, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I hope that we consider a running back at some point in this draft.

It is by far the deepest position in this draft.

James Charles and James Davis will be steals in this draft.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't you think it equally unfortunate that a culinary delicacy should have the word turd embedded in it?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 01:18 PM

It does sound like something the zookeepers do when the feces starts flying in the monkee house.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | January 17, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if Jansen is coming back next season for sure?

If not, Michael Oher out of Ole Miss could be a beast.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Ryan looks legitimate. I am not sold on Brohm as being a sure thing. (He reminds me of that other Louisville QB that B-more drafted, and is now with Atlanta.) Booty is also no sure thing. Brennan isn't going to find a run-n-shoot in the NFL. Flacco has to make the adjustment to the big time after playing in the college minor leagues. Woodson and Ainge don't impress me. Dixon is another Vick (run first QB).

At least Henne is a traditional QB. He will fit into a lot of teams' offenses as is if he can stay healthy.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Nice canape, Smack.

No need to explain why you just happen to have that bookmarked...some questions, well, just don't want answers.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

The Todd was a high draft pick... 2nd round, IIRC. So that wouldn't work for my comparison, sweeney.
That said, I'm not sure why you would take a QB in the middle rounds. We, I think, don't have that luxury.

Posted by: daggar | January 17, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Tofurkey stuffed turducken...

T o f u c k e n?

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

How much are we willing to pay rock cartwright? I think it will be one of the most important and telling decisions of the off season.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Ack, I need to pay more attention to college football, so I can participate in these draft-dreaming sessions.

If only they had a playoff, I think I'd be much more into it.

Anyway, reading and learning here, reading and learning...

Posted by: redskirt | January 17, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

ps Ladell is set to be a 3.4 million cap hit next season.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

New post already... Please!

What's the dilly on Mora's interview and Meeks is supposed to be up today... I wonder if we learn who our new head coach is tomorrow, this weekend or Monday?

Posted by: EinVB | January 17, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Jansen and Thomas 8.6 and 8.7

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if Jansen is coming back next season for sure?

If not, Michael Oher out of Ole Miss could be a beast.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 01:31 PM

Oher has changed his mind and is staying for his senior year.

Posted by: skinfanman | January 17, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing Rock would play for vet min, an annual bonus check, and a ham sandwich.

That said, it hurts to remind ourselves of Old School's adage about rooting for the jersey rather than the guy, and thinking about picking up another RB. Portis, Betts, and Cartwright all seem to about the same vintage. Seems like "continuity" involves both old and young ... the cycle of rookie and retirement ... mentoring ... maps, such as

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Monday...so as not to distract from the play offs

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

My uncle has a tofurcky farm down in Eugene.
Those bird are ornery.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

redskirt, bear in mind that it's all extraordinarily idle chatter until we know all the coaching staff changes, and then see what happens at the beginning of free agency, not to mention that trying to predict who will be available at #21 is nothing like trying to predict who would be available at #6... just sayin' is all.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Jason needs to throw us a frikkin bone!

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | January 17, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"... I wonder if we learn who our new head coach is tomorrow, this weekend or Monday?"

Posted by: EinVB | January 17, 2008 01:38 PM

HA, you (we) wish! Look for an announcement around the time they announce the injury report for the Super Bowl. ["And the winner of the 2008 Branch Snyderian Contra 3 Tournament is ..."]

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Sleepers at defensive positions of interest:
DE:
Pat simms auburn; Johnny Dingle WVU
DT:
Letroy Guin Fsu
LB:
Geno Hays FSu; Jerod Mayo UT
CB:
Brandon Flowers VT; Justin King psu; orlando scandrik BSU

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

With 6, you get eggroll. With 21, you get turducken.

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

It ain't exactly a new thread, but you can get those funny questions for Cindy in queue now:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/01/11/DI2008011102844.html

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who's taken to wincing every time he (or she, ladies) refreshes RI, afraid that he'll see a headline about Jim Mora taking over the Redskins?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

RB-James Davis CU
WR-Adrian Arrington UM
T-Anthony Collins KU
G-chilo Rachal USC
QB-Bobby Reid OSU

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

freak, you not alone buddy. i put my hands on my face and peek thru my fingers...

Posted by: dealer | January 17, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who's taken to wincing every time he (or she, ladies) refreshes RI, afraid that he'll see a headline about Jim Mora taking over the Redskins?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 01:52 PM

Oh no, I hadn't even taken the Jim Mora thing seriously until you just said that. That would be moderately horrifying.

Posted by: redskirt | January 17, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

And I thought turducken was a made-up word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 17, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Collins is suppose to be a beast, I wouldnt want flowers he has that typical VT attitude and has gotten into trouble while in school, not as bad as pacman but I dont want to see redskins players getting into trouble with the law or in 2 yrs made about their contract and hold out or demand a trade.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 17, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Nate, I know just how idle this all is, but since I only follow VT football (blame the fiance) my ears (or eyes) only perk up when I see the names Justin Harper and Brandon Flowers. This whole conversation would be tremendously more interesting if I'd followed some of these guys during their college years.

Posted by: redskirt | January 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Moderately horrifying and the best thing that could possibly happen to Jason Campbell

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

"... That seems about right, since the QB class isn't all that great this year."

Posted by: tafka | January 17, 2008 01:15 PM

I recall a few days ago that someone was pimping the QB from Delaware ... real tall guy, I think his name was something like Freakko.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 01:24 PM

Flacco is playing for the East in Sat night's east-west shrine bowl. Check him out.....

Another Blue hen to watch out for late in the draft is Omar Cuff. RB had like 1900 yds and 39tds this year....plus receiveing yards....

Posted by: dlhaze | January 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Spelled a little differently, but its kind of like RPS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morra_%28game%29

I got nothin.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

That picture of the Turducken looks like the Frankenstien of foods.

Posted by: sams3 | January 17, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

cuff will be a rookie FA, I'll state again that the list of rb's with quality starts in Div I is ridiculous.

+ he wasn't even the best back in his conference. That was Tim Hightower by a landslide.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Stop me from reading so far down...on the wikipedia post there is a link to the camel. I don't have the courage to click it.


"The largest recorded nested bird roast is 17 birds, attributed to a royal feast in France in the early 19th century (originally called a Rôti Sans Pareil, or "Roast without equal") - a bustard stuffed with a turkey, a goose, a pheasant, a chicken, a duck, a guinea fowl, a teal, a woodcock, a partridge, a plover, a lapwing, a quail, a thrush, a lark, an Ortolan Bunting and a Garden Warbler. The final bird is small enough that it can be stuffed with a single olive; it also suggests that, unlike modern multi-bird roasts, there was no stuffing or other packing placed in between the birds. This dish probably could not be recreated in the modern era as many of the listed birds are now protected species. [1] [2].

A (possibly apocryphal) dish of camel stuffed with animal and plant foods in layers is whole stuffed camel."

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 17, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Omar Cuff. Great. Can't wait for Aikman to make an off-the cuff remark about the the ball dropping "off-the Cuff" when Cuff fumbles.

Yeah. Ditto the got nothin. As you were.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Why do I feel the same why about refreshing RI and seeing the GggW is the new coach???

I guess I'm in the minority on RI about that. I just am not sure that he's the one. Maybe/hopefully I'm wrong. I've been wrong before.

I do notice that the Danny isn't interviewing anyone who would have the clout to stand up to him or tell him no (GggW included). Worries me.

Posted by: carocanesfan | January 17, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

cuff will be a rookie FA, I'll state again that the list of rb's with quality starts in Div I is ridiculous.

+ he wasn't even the best back in his conference. That was Tim Hightower by a landslide.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 02:04 PM

The guy from Richmond? Pretty good, and their yardage was about the same, but Cuff had way more TD's....apples/oranges.
The Richmond/UD game was unbeleiveable this year;62-56 in 5 OTs. I really wanted a Delaware/Richmand Championship game for revenge, but was denied....
The sad thing is that it's rumored that NFL scouts want Cuff to play safety......my bet is that if he doesn't get dreftef he will sign as an FA with anyone who will let him play RB.

Posted by: dlhaze | January 17, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

flacco the next rich gannon? probably not

cuff the next brian westbrook(villanova)? probably not

Hightower better than cuff? probably not in the nfl.

Posted by: dbussjd | January 17, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

dreftef = drafted

Posted by: dlhaze | January 17, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the publicity, Nate!

Posted by: TheCindy | January 17, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

How is there less snow now than there was two hours ago when sween posted the link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/webcams/snowcam.htm

Very fishy. Very, very fishy. Meddling gnomes.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Settle down Spider man, I am not declaring anybody better than anyone else, or saying Flacco is the next Gannon.....just saying they are good.....

Posted by: dlhaze | January 17, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Because it's mixing with rain here now Nate....

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"... Meddling gnomes."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 02:15 PM

Or as Scooby and the gang exposed it, gnomes with snowplows.

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

That QB Flaccid doesn't sound like a very 'stand-up' sort of guy....

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, I kinda like Chick Hernandez. How many 5 foot nothing guys make it in sports broadcasting? Seriously? He's the only one I know of. In an industry where appearance means everything, he's defied all odds. He's also charismatic, knows DC area sports as well as anyone, and runs some great programs on Comcast.

Also, he's a frat brother of Barno. Therefore, he must be cool.

Posted by: barno | January 17, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Nate, the way wunderground.com tells it, its "Light Rain Ice Pellets Mist." I read that and say "pick one already!"

Posted by: dcsween | January 17, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Bob Costas is also about five foor three or four......

Posted by: dlhaze | January 17, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Jason Garrett won't be the next coach of the Ravens or Falcons. The Cowboys promoted him to assistant head coach and made him the highest-paid NFL assistant, ESPN's Chris

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Where the hell is JLC?? Its almost been 24 hours since his last update!

I'm going crazy over here!! I need info!!

Posted by: ptoro | January 17, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Replied to your email Mark (from the Future).

I forgot to say Hail! at the end, forgive my rudeness!

SMACK, we're going to see if we can make something in Burtonsville. You said you're not back until the 5th or was it the 6th?

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Jim Gray is actually a gnome.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 17, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

ptoro- Double G had his 5th interview today. It was a snowball fight against gnomes "Dan" and "Vinny". Early reports are not good.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"Why do I feel the same about refreshing RI and seeing the GggW is the new coach???"

I've thought about this lately, but every time a coaching mistake was made during the season, I could only think of one thing:

"Why can't we have everything Gibbs brings to the table, only on gameday someone substitutes in for him as head decision-maker."

Hiring GG would be the closest way this scenario could play out. Nobody could prepare a team the way Gibbs could. Not even Bill Belicheck measures up, in my mind. This teams mistakes were made either by the team not performing (@GB, vs.Philly) or by the coaches making in-game mistakes (vs.NYG, vs.Buffalo).

After the unbalanced early years of the snyder era, I'm convinced that the last few years were a master's program for the entire organization. From the veterans to the superstars to the rookies to the coaching staff to the front office, Joe Gibbs taught the Washington Redskins what it takes to win.

Coaches take after their mentors. While Williams' scheme comes from Buddy Ryan, his ability to run a team will come from Joe Gibbs. You can bet if Williams is the HC, this team won't change its day-to-day routine of how to prepare. These guys will put in the same work, the same effort, and provided Saunders stays as well, the same type of gameplans as developed this season. The difference is that on gameday, GG will have a sharp mind and aggressive outlook on things, and that can be the difference between 9-7 and 12-4.

I think GG is the perfect man for the job.

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

WTEM says the media room at Redskins Park is being prepped for a presser. Could be today or tomorrow!

Posted by: cvdterp | January 17, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

We're up to about 5 inches of snow here in Ashburn and it's still falling hard. I don't think they'll run a presser today if they can avoid it!

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

what if the reports are true, Mora was offered and accepted the job. Would this be the worst perceived initial hire of the past decade? Or would that fall to the last three Norv hirings?

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Shocker of the Day:

Barno was in a Frat!

I am floored by this info, simply astonished...

which one was it Barno?

Posted by: chrislarry | January 17, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I just check out Cyn Cyty live chat. There is nothing about a presser or Mora being offered the job.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat- From earlier, Severn Inn food is outstanding. Watch out for the waitress from Chile though...she "accidentally" added $54 to her tip. That was a joyous waste of time dealing with the credit card company to get it fixed.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Perhaps you could sneak out to join us.

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 17, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 4-12, I'll let whoever pays for it (it's a company meal) worry about that one!

Any chance you might be able to get out to Burtonsville if I can organize something with Mark (from the Future) and SMACK?

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, can you email me? usredcoat at gmail dot com. I've lost your email address somehow.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Mark, Redcoat- Let me know when. I'll see if the ball and chain will let me out of the house. :)

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Run 4-12 Run. Jail break. LMAO

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

If you email me at the above address 4-12, I'll send you the details once we arrange. Or can I find your email address on Kost's RI Fantasy League?

Posted by: Redcoat | January 17, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Adam Schefter is on 980 right now. He said the fact that Snyder flew out to Seattle and picked up Mora and entertained him overnight means Mora is a HOT and very viable candidate. Also said we should not discount Meeks and Schwartz. He thinks Snyder will probably make a decision by next week since the Senior Bowl is right around the corner.

Schefter definitely sounds like he thinks it will be Mora.

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

jm- She's got some built in, husband finding, GPS homing device, or some such as!

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat- The email's on the fantasy league site.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

LMAO! Don't worry 4-12 we will get one of those computer guys to send her the wrong way

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

i can see snyder and mora hitting it off right off the bat. problem is being a fun guy isn't a qualification for a head coach in any sense.

Posted by: pspe23 | January 17, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Seattle Deadskin: Can we have a new thread on RI?

Cindy Boren: No. :)

Posted by: Markin21132 | January 17, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Schefter definitely sounds like he thinks it will be Mora.

Posted by: Lisa | January 17, 2008 03:16 PM

I am not sure how people get him being the coach because he was brought it. But each his own.

Posted by: jm220 | January 17, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I can only imgaine her reaction to this one: "Hey honey, I'm gonna head out for a beer with a couple of guys I met on the internet."

Posted by: 4-12 | January 17, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: mmok | January 17, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

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