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Got (Partial) Tickets?

Going through some emails from the weekend - I was off line for a few days - and came across this doosie from the Redskins. I guess you guys have probably heard about this tickets snafu, where the team emailed people about buying partial ticket plans. But I re-read the email a few times and still can't figure out exactly what the team claims to be saying.

Here's the press release by the Redskins attempting to correct the situation:

In an error this week, an email intended for internal discussion with a marketing partner of the Washington Redskins was mistakenly sent to a number of people on the team's waiting list for seats at FedEx Field.
The offer contained in the email - partial season tickets for the team's Club seats - is not a valid offer.
"The email went out by mistake. One of our broadcast advertising partners was suggesting a potential program, leading to some internal confusion," said Mitch Gershman, the team's Chief Operating Officer. "We retract the email in its entirety. Seats at the stadium are sold only on a full-season and multi-year contractual basis."
"I apologize for the error and any confusion or inconvenience it caused," Gershman said, adding, "There are just over 300 premium seats available for the upcoming season. The other 20,000 are all under long-term contracts."

Anybody else not entirely buying this explanation? Sharing the idea with a marketing partner? Somebody is going to sponsor the alleged partial plans that don't exist? Wouldn't a corporate bigwig have to sign off on that before it starting being shipped around to the waiting list?

Whatever. All I know is that when Snyder's longtime COO, Dave Pauken, left the team, it was all very high-hush (secrecy is the number one policy over there), and they never announced Gershman taking the job, either, I just found out about when it went down and wrote about it. Guess that's how they roll.

Randoms: Skins signed their 7th round pick today. Would imagine it won't be long before the other second-day picks come to terms as well ... Going to try to take Chloe to the Nats game Wednesday with my father-in-law. Hope the rain holds out ... Gotta run to get ready to do that Comcast show, but will post something tonight or tomorrow about the connection between Dan Snyder and Paris Hilton. If you were playing the Kevin Beacon game, turns out there'd be only one degree of separation.

By Jason La Canfora  |  July 2, 2007; 2:56 PM ET
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Who was that 7th pick again?

Posted by: 35332 | July 2, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Who was that 7th pick again?

Posted by: 35332 | July 2, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Where is everyone?

Are the Redskins the only team that screws up or do the others make mistakes sometimes?

Posted by: KK | July 2, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Tyler Ecker, a tight end from Michigan

Posted by: 4th | July 2, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

CHEVERLY, Md. (AP) -- Three-time Pro Bowl linebacker LaVar Arrington was released from the hospital Monday, two weeks after breaking his right arm and severely cutting his leg in a motorcycle accident.

"He's doing much better," said Arrington's attorney, Rosalyn Pugh. "I won't say he's 100 percent, but he's doing better."

Pugh said Arrington had a "little limp" from a gash in his leg as he left Prince George's Hospital Center and will also need time to recover from the broken bone in his right forearm. She said she had no timetable for Arrington's full recovery.

Arrington crashed on a highway ramp two days before his 29th birthday. He was issued citations for both the crash and for operating a motorcycle without a proper license.

Pugh said Arrington is focused on promoting the opening of his new restaurant in Prince George's County, not far from the Washington Redskins' stadium. Arrington's football career is on hold, at least temporarily, because of his injuries.

Posted by: 4th | July 2, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

tastes great

Posted by: Anonymous | July 2, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

less filling

Posted by: Anonymous | July 2, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else here interested to see LaVar Arrington have a Pregame show?

Posted by: 35332 | July 2, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

The Dan is ranked the NFL's fifth best owner by SI...Any thoughts?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 2, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many partial plans they actually sold before they realized it was a "mistake"?

Posted by: Stumped | July 2, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I think Lavar should take his pre-game show to Penn State or to the Giants. He can't get it done around here after he p-d all over the Redskins on his way out the door. The many burned his bridges behind him.

Posted by: KK | July 2, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"Kevin Beacon"? J-La, you are a shining light at the spelling bee!

Posted by: Redcoat | July 2, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Um lets see. Dan Snyder bought Tom Cruise's production? company - Tom Cruise starred w/Kevin Bacon in A Few Good Men - Don't know where Paris Hilton fits in though.

Posted by: skinswest | July 2, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if this was discussed or brought to light. A few years ago, a friend who had club seats was offered up to 4 regular season tickets. I assume that this was offered to all of the club seat subscribers. How could they get away with bypassing the long waiting list??? Has there been reaction to this?

Posted by: JL | July 2, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I called about the partial plan offer and the guy on the other end was ready to sign me up right then and there. He guessed what I was calling about before I could even tell him. He quoted prices ranging from $3000 (end zone and corners) to $4800. The follow up email was a complete fabrication. I think they saw how much interest there was in partial plans thay they want to start over and offer them for real -- but only in multi-year contracts.

Posted by: Dave | July 2, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Don't want to stoke the fire to much since we have been over this turf before, not to mention I am a staunch "labor" guy BUT...great article on about Conrad Dobler's life after Football and his work battaling the NFL and weak ass players union about health benifits. What a character this article is fascinating. Notice where it describes salary in the laste 70's...17,000 a enough "they should have invested" nonsense:

Posted by: chris Larry | July 2, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

$17K is about twice what I made in 1979 :-)

Posted by: Dave | July 2, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Twice what I made in 1982...but what does it all mean?

Posted by: John D in Houston | July 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Update: jm220 made it to NOLA and says he'll share pictures of his volunteer trip when he gets back.

He didn't say "F chris Larry," but it was implied...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 2, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I think we still get back to the fact that if someone had told you that you had to put enough away in the 70s to see you into your old age, you:

1) wouldn't have listened, and...
P) even if you had you couldn't have saved enough.

Thanks to Dealer for the Blog numbering convention. I've decided to put "dealeresque" numbering into my next presentation to upper management to see if a) anyone notices and 6) if they do, they can be bothered to say something.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 2, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I read the articile regarding sports owners and for the life of me I can not figure how "the Dan" could ever be the 5th best owner. He will not be satisfied until he runs our beloved Redskins and the fans into the ground!! Also, I was hoping when he hired Coach Gibbs he would pull the franchise up but "the Dan" has only pulled Gibbs down.

Posted by: DRodgers | July 2, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Iceman: "Bulls***'

Goose: 'No man, it was a really great move. I took a great polaroid of it...'

The Governor is in France. It doesn't make any sense. Why am I saying it? Because that email didn't make any sense either.

Not to go off completely on my own topic, but to sort of do exactly that, in advance of the Transformers movie (which I could not be more excited about) here is something I was involved in:

In it, you should find humor. Unless you are dead inside and don't think Transformers are awesome...then I don't know what to tell you.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | July 2, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

That's some hilarious shti right there! You are completely bonkers! I used to work with that blond haired guy I think, is he named Tom?

Posted by: SMACK | July 2, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Nevermind, I saw the credits. Too damn funny.

Posted by: SMACK | July 2, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

nice clip, LMGO.

Posted by: Stumped | July 2, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

If I was a Transformer, I'd transform into a beat up old 8 track tape player with a Ted Nugent tape stuck in the player. Playing Cat Scratch Fever and maybe Stranglehold over and over and over until somebody throws-up.

Posted by: Stumped | July 2, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Email from George W. Bush to Scooter Libby upon his Pardon today:

"I'm not mad, I'm proud of you. You took your first pinch like a man and you learn two great things in your life. Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut."

Posted by: Corkczar | July 2, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I must be dead inside. Not! That clip isn't funny and the music really bites.

Posted by: Transform This | July 2, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

jm220 asked me to post this simple comment he sent after just a few hours in NOLA:

"it is still really bad here."

an ominous beginning to his volunteer mission.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 2, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else here interested to see LaVar Arrington have a Pregame show?

Posted by: 35332 | July 2, 2007 03:35 PM

No. I agree with KK; I heard more than enough of LaVar in his last season here whining every week on the JT Show.

Posted by: Starbuck | July 2, 2007 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Snyder fifth best? Sure he does the best at managing the business and he hired Joe Gibbs. Take away Gibbs and he would surely end up close to last if not last.

The Joe Gibbs nay sayers should think about what this team would be like without him ostensibly running the football operations and running interference between cut-throat Danny Snyder Jones the pirate and his "black pearl" the Washington Redskins. Its either Gibbs or Vermeil as president. Personally I would still love to see the "Bone" come back. But, too much of a sour taste there.

Posted by: periculum | July 2, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I feel like I have to "defend" myself more than Isaiah Washington. My ONLY intentions for bringing up the salary of the players in the '70's was to drum up conversation.

But since some of you (Chris Larry) brought up Dobler's contract dollar amount ($17,000 +). The average salary in the 70's was $7,564. That's when the working man worked 12 months, paid for his health care. Where as the players in the '70's got FREE health care and worked less than a half of a year.

Guess what... MOST people were able to save in those days and can pay for their retirement without receiving much of a handout.

I tried once to bury the hatchet but you simply won't let it be... Do some research in the future before you cry on yet another blog that the players in the 70's had it so tough, they made more than double the avg Joe.

On a lighter note, did anyone else hear the Skins will be wearing the 70's gold helmets with the "R" on opening day?

Posted by: hail to 'em | July 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

During the 1970s the average salary of a football player ranged from $20,000 to $60,000.

Final word... it's a debate.

Posted by: hail to 'em | July 2, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Is this a special on the Red Cross or a Redskins blog? How about some skins news.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 2, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse


Definitely some shady business going on with the ticket offer, but does that really surprise anyone? The ticket office over there is a fiasco and this just solidifies that statement. I still can't figure out why the email was retracted, but maybe a previous poster was right in that the response to the offer was so high, Danny Boy now has to re-think the deal in order to add in some fine print to screw over his loyal fans.

And seriously, #5 owner??? That is like saying Napolean is/was the 5th best leader in the history of the world. But hey, "cocaine is a hell of a drug" and the journalist who created that garbage piece has definitely experimented a time or two.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | July 2, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey, anonymous, I'd like to take our conversation off the blog. Send me a note at nateinthepdx at gmail dot com. Please. We need to talk.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 2, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Anon poster: Um no news its July 2nd...

Hail: Did you read the article? Just wasnt a shot just another resource to add to the knowledge base. I stated my "slant" as a labor oriented have your beliefs...fine...i find them misguided at best but whateves as Russell Simmons says "Do You"

Posted by: chris larry | July 2, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard if we are going to wear the "R" helmets and uni's?

With the recent news on Tank Johnson... would you sign him?

Posted by: hail to 'em | July 2, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

hail to 'em, there's also the kid DT from Miami who Cam Cameron just cut for an alcohol-infused shabingus on South Beach. Maybe he comes north with that playbook and a chip on his shoulder to get some tough love from the staff up here.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 2, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Nate he wont email you....just open up a can of whup azz on him on here...

Posted by: chris larry | July 2, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Everybody is going to want Tank. I think he's set to become a very wealthier man. Unless Goodell suspends him for three years for speeding. But then Bush would just commute that sentence.

Posted by: SMACK | July 2, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

F Tank Johnson....and there is no way we will sign him...How did Darrell Russell work out?

Posted by: chris larry | July 2, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

To the dude who didn't like my Transformers video: The sting of the words was lessened by the trip I got to take back to 1985 without a flux capacitor when you went with: 'not'. I don't care what anyone says, 'not' was an exceptional ruse to play on one's chums.

We will sign Tank Johnson....not.

Good times there.

Nate, I'm always surprised there aren't more shabingi down there. We went to south beach for the Governor's bachelor party and yadda yadda yadda, I was face down in a teepee at one of the beach bars. It's like another planet.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | July 2, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

AMTTS, what's going on with the career and the move to NYC?

And most importantly, when are you playing Portland?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 2, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Nate did anon email u?

Posted by: chris larry | July 2, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Huh, whaddya know, no mail yet from my anonymous friend.

I just want to have a word, and I thought I asked nicely.

I remain eager to hear from him, though, and I haven't given up hope.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 2, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse


Also, I heard the Blazers are going to buy out Stevie Franchise and get him right out of town. That one had me worried.

Not that anybody up here cares. But it's kind of like sports.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 2, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

How about them active Caps!!!! I have actually been over lurking on that blog...most of my life, up until the lock-out, the Caps were almost as important to me as the Skins.....but Since Jagr debacle its been a long slow decent into heck....

but is there light at the end?!

Posted by: chris larry | July 2, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Sup night bloggers??

I just got a new laptop (or is it labtop?) and am working to get this thing straighten out. The damn thing already frooze up on me once and i am debating if I just want to take it back for the a diff computer?

Since I spent so much $$ when I didn't need to I just want to make sure this thing works correct.

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | July 3, 2007 12:19 AM | Report abuse

JLC: They actually are selling the partial game packages, call them up incognito, and you'll see...

Posted by: NinjaTickets | July 3, 2007 12:39 AM | Report abuse

You are correct Ninja Tix. I called and they offered them to me. I just wasn't paying $4,800 for half of the games.

I beleive the current Club Seat ticket owners called and complained because they HAD to sign 5 and 10 year plans when some Joe Schmoe off of the street can come and and commit to ONLY HALF OF A SEASON.

So, to please those people they sent out the letter saying the email was erroneous. What The F*ck Eva. That was a freakin legit email. The Redskins Call Center peeps knew exactly what I was talking about and was ready to take my order. That goes beyond marketing sending out an erroneous email. The Ticket people were taking orders on this...

Posted by: 4th | July 3, 2007 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Wow. I guess I picked the wrong night to be blogging.........

Posted by: 4th | July 3, 2007 1:19 AM | Report abuse

if Snyder is having to resort to partial season plans to sell his tickets does this mean that the mythical waitlist is non existent or now empty?

Posted by: Dante | July 3, 2007 1:22 AM | Report abuse

i'm here 4th

Posted by: Dante | July 3, 2007 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Last at last!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 3, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Are the partial plans for Club Seats only, or also for General Admission seats?

Not selling out the Club Seats has no impact on TV blackouts. Not selling out the General Admission seats means no local TV. As much as I love you all back home, that would be such a slap in the face to "Mr." Snyder, wouldn't it?

Posted by: P Diddy | July 3, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

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