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Grade the Redskins' draft


By Cindy Boren  |  April 24, 2010; 4:39 PM ET
 
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Can't really grade a draft until a couple years out, however, based on drafting for need, I give them a A-.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

FIRST to say grading a draft before it's even over is lame. Grading this draft anytime before 2013 is just dumb.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 24, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

To update:

We got our franchise LT to fit our scheme - our biggest need.

We got a Pro Bowl QB with 3-4 years left by trading an unwanted QB (JC) and a 2nd for Donovan (4th rounders in 2011 and 2012 cancel out).

We traded ONE early 5th rounder for Adam Carriker, Dennis Morris, and Terrence Austin.

We got Jarmon for a 3rd. Riley for a 4th, addressing depth on the defensive front.

We traded one pick in the 7th for Erik Cook and Selvish Capers, addressing O-line depth.

IMO, really hard to criticize what Shanallen did with very limited resources. And we broke even in future years by losing a pick in 2011 and gaining one in 2012. Hopefully our draft resources will be back to normal now.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Just saw the Iggles got Jeff Owens. That was one I hoped the Skins got as a FA.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

This was a great draft Redskin Nation, smashmouth football has returned, not to mention we found a qaulity LB, and H back/TE who looks dynamic, its gonna be a great season, thx heavens for GM's

Posted by: myboss74 | April 24, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

You can certainly grade the POSITION they picked based on need. I'd say half picks oline was smart. As a fan I am happy with what appears to be a more professionally run organization. Cleaning up the predecessor, like such as.

Posted by: Club320 | April 24, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

FIRST to say grading a draft before it's even over is lame. Grading this draft anytime before 2013 is just dumb.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 24, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

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but prolly still voted anyway....lol

Posted by: cancunlizzard | April 24, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

squawk...squawk...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

FIRST to say grading a draft before it's even over is lame. Grading this draft anytime before 2013 is just dumb.
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So tell us how you graded the 2007 draft, wise one.

Posted by: mcwop | April 24, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

It's a fun poll; your final grade won't be affected by it.

I wished they had done "something" with that first pick to get more picks but you can't argue against Williams. Maybe they tried but go no takers.

Given the situation they were in (mostly inherited) and what they came out with, a solid B or B+.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 24, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Obviously you grade drafts years later - but for an immediate assessment. Wow. This was refreshing, high quality work.

They couldn't get Jamal Brown before the draft so Eric Berry was out. Therefore Trent Williams is an A. Donovan for a second rounder A+. Jarmon in the 3rd - not sure... but it's not these guy's doing anyway so I'll pass on that.

I actually hoped they'd take Capers every time a pick cam up - so getting him last is an A for me.

Other than Oline I had our top need being an inside LB to back up London. So our 4th rounder seems right.

Like eveybody else, I never heard of D-MO, but his 9 minute highlight reel on youtube is outrageous. Makes me feel like we are in good hands with this new staff. Seriously, the blocking alone is amazing, but he's also an excellent reciever. Stay with the reel to the end to see his catch over that 1st round corner from Boise St. It's big time athleticism from a big TE. I Don't understand why he wasn't better known.

I'm a UCLA season tcket holder and Terrence Austin can play. A little small, but he's a very good special teams guy. Might help him make the team as the #5 receiver. Maybe. Personally I think D Thomas is going to be too valuable this year to use on Kicks, so... worth a flyer on a return specialist. 4 return TD's last season.

And a back-up center. Perfect. I think the new crew did an excellent job. Very refreshing and encouraging. A.

Posted by: bigfoot1 | April 24, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey, noonefromtampa, I was thinking the same thing regarding Snead.

Do you think Shanny might be interested in FA pick up of Jarett Brown QB from WVU?

Very good athlete, see if he is coach-able?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I give it a D.

We didn't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick in an unusually deep draft.

We picked a tackle with the 4th overall pick. Not the best tackle in the draft, but the best for the new coaches scheme. Based on recent history, the coach will last 2 years and the player 10. So, 2 years from now, we'll wish we had drafted Okung.

We drafted 2 linemen in the 7th round and we need linemen, but they're 7th rounders. Sometimes you get a good player that late, but more often than not you don't.

All in all we got 1, maybe 2 long term starters. This would be OK for most teams, but for a 4-12 team, it's bad.

Posted by: Kidhorn | April 24, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Get Alan Faneca!

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

but prolly still voted anyway....lol

Posted by: cancunlizzard | April 24, 2010 4:58 PM


Sure did. LOL

Seriously though...we have no idea if this draft was good or not. The LB they took in the 4th could be a future All-Pro or he could be on the practice squad come September. Williams could be great or he could be mediocre. One of the O-lineman in the 7th round could become a solid starter. Until there's time to let things play out, we don't know.

That said, I'm completely stunned they blew a pick on a TE, (personally I thought that would have been a good spot to roll the dice on Myron Rolle) but it's hard to argue against any of the other picks they made. I might have taken a chance on Bruce Campbell in the 4th round, but they have close to zero depth at LB thanks to this 3-4 switch.

I feel better about this draft than I have any other draft in the last 10 years. Can't wait to see how it all plays out.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 24, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

To update:

We got our franchise LT to fit our scheme - our biggest need.

We got a Pro Bowl QB with 3-4 years left by trading an unwanted QB (JC) and a 2nd for Donovan (4th rounders in 2011 and 2012 cancel out).

We traded ONE early 5th rounder for Adam Carriker, Dennis Morris, and Terrence Austin.

We got Jarmon for a 3rd. Riley for a 4th, addressing depth on the defensive front.

We traded one pick in the 7th for Erik Cook and Selvish Capers, addressing O-line depth.

IMO, really hard to criticize what Shanallen did with very limited resources. And we broke even in future years by losing a pick in 2011 and gaining one in 2012. Hopefully our draft resources will be back to normal now.


Posted by: Rypien11 | April 24, 2010 4:51 PM
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great analysis... got young versatile o-linemen... good draft...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 24, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

More draft, please!! We waited forever and now it's over. Bummer.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

The pick I like the most is the pick most people here are griping about the most. Mainly because people don't seem to get that he's not going to be a TE. He's going to be our starting fullback, replacing Sellers.

Morris is going to be pretty awesome. Should start immediately. And if you can get a starter that late in the draft it's a good pick.

Posted by: dfbovey | April 24, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Definitely an A grade.
Can't give them an A+ because we didn't come away with any big lucky steals of the draft, but we hit almost every position of need.

Maybe we should have grabbed OT Campbell or LB Chaney (but who really wants a guy named Chaney back in DC?)... time will tell.

3 days ago, we had needs at the following positions:

LT
RT
G/C
TE/HB
Slot WR/KR
LB
FS

We added a player at ever position of need with the exception of Free Safety.

Well done.

A-

Posted by: jgarrisn | April 24, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

As a long time skins fan, currently living in NJ, I've had a chance to watch Alan Faneca play for the Jets over the past few years, and also get to know him personally (his family lives down the street). Not only does Alan still have gas in the tank to play at a high level, but he's also a great locker room presence, something the current Redskins lack in my opinion.

Allen/Shanny - please move quick to add more talent to the O-line. Alan's your man!!

Posted by: HillyinNJ | April 24, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Some of you guys are loyal to a fault. There is no way this draft can be graded any higher than a D. No picks in the second or third round.

Yes, they got Trent Williams. But an offensive line is a 5-man unit. They addressed 1/5 of the problem. Not like when you have a hole a RB and can draft one guy to address the issue. Those O-linemen at the end of the draft, they went in Round 7 for a reason. So the Skins are replacing mediocre linemen with more mediocre linemen. No improvement there.

And finally . . . McNabb was not part of this draft. The draft was Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Trades and free agency do not play into a draft grade.

Posted by: hrt22 | April 24, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

D+ at best. Kidhorn got it right. 1 impact player and he wasn't even regarded as the best at his position. I've said Shanny won't last than more than 3-4 years. Mcnabb will be done in 3 years and the second rounder we traded for him could have nobbed Clausen or been packaged to get Bradford, Tebow or anyone who could have contributed more than 3 years. So if you're content with the next player of the decade being an O-lineman again, then this draft was for you. I'd rather my impact pick be used on someone who can get the ball in the endzone, something this team hasn't done in quite a while.

Instead of signing loser 4-time criminal Larry Johnson, we should have gotten our OT in FA and used the the top picks on QB and a RB like Gerhardt in the second round. Then we have youth at all our skill positions for a while next year get the lineman with the top picks.

As it is, McNabb and Shanny will make the team competive enough to not pick high again, so they better win it all in the next three years or we will be older and in even greater need to rebuild then we are in right now.

Posted by: dg_photofl | April 24, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

They went in with 4 picks and came out with 6 players.

Additionally they manage to get our 7th pick back from the Fins from the J. Taylor trade. And to got us an extra pick for 2012 draft.

I gave them a A, considering Shanny and Allen, played no part in the events that led to this short draft.

Posted by: dashriprock | April 24, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't give this draft a D. That's foolish. Too many people think they are qualified GM's. I give it a B for now. We'll have to wait and see. However, to say we picked up two 7th round linemen who no one wanted is uninformed. Selvish Capers was listed in the top five for tackles. Also, use your brain...if you know how zone blocking works, it favors linemen who don't have all of the tools. Mark Schlereth had about 30 knee surgeries when he anchored Shanny's line on a SB winning team. Get your facts right.

Posted by: Skinsational | April 24, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I agree somewhat with Kid Horn. But I also agree with folks who say you have to wait and see how the picks turn out.

The most frustrating thing for me as a fan is that the Redskins repeatedly do poorly in rounds 2, 3, 4 & 5 largely because they always rob Peter to pay Paul. They frequently take an advance against the next season to get near term value and so far it has never paid off for them. Jarmon, Jason Taylor, Jason Campbell, on and on. The McNabb trade is the latest example of this, even though the team is supposed to be under new leadership.

The pick of an unknown linebacker in the mid rounds this year builds upon a recurring theme that has failed the team in the past. Clearly top shelf linebacking talent comes from the first two to three rounds, instead the Redskins past drafts and this one are littered with failed gambles on unknown backers; Robert McCune, Dallas Sartz, Cody Glenn, Jared Newberry, Kevin Simon, HB Blades, Robert Henson and so on. The same list could be made for fullbacks and tight ends that have failed from similar rounds.

The linebacker choice with the early 4th rounder this 2010 draft is glaring. The player was projected as the 27th best player at his position in this years draft by multiple mock draft boards. One of two things is true, the Skins judged him wrongly, OR he was going to be available MUCH, MUCH later. They did not take Cam Chancellor a good S from VA Tech or Campbell the tackle with first to second round talent from Maryland.

This is very, very, bothersome and merits explanation from Bruce and Shanahan if this LSU backer does not even make the team.

Posted by: DownTownClown | April 24, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

"They went in with 4 picks and came out with 6 players.

Additionally they manage to get our 7th pick back from the Fins from the J. Taylor trade. And to got us an extra pick for 2012 draft.

I gave them a A, considering Shanny and Allen, played no part in the events that led to this short draft.

Posted by: dashriprock | April 24, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse"

How can you say that they had NO PART in the events that led to this short draft? They picked up a QB with 2-3 years left in the league for a 2nd (2010) AND 3rd rounder (2011). Using the Redskins pick, Eagles picked up a safety named Nate Allen. Think the Eagles have good luck with drafting safeties (the correct answer is yes)? Think the Skins could've used a safety with 1st round talent since that was a MAJOR need going into this draft...much more than say, H-back/TE depth? (the correct answer is yes) C'mon, we already have Captain Chaos, and Fred-what time is practice supposed to start?Davis at that position.

Not a strong draft, but as the man earlier in the post stated, it is silly to give an actual grade on the day of the draft.

Posted by: ryangiles98 | April 24, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I think all of you that have this draft graded higher than a C are crazy. The skins proved again that football brains are lacking in the front office. Williams was a A but we passed on terrific postional players. If Mcnabb gets hurt who will we rely on Grossman?? You're kidding, we have the oldest and worn out runningbacks in the league, are safeties are slow. Will we let that running back from Oregan get away. Sorry but this was a horrible draft fans.

Posted by: GotBallz | April 25, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

I give it a D.

We didn't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick in an unusually deep draft.

We picked a tackle with the 4th overall pick. Not the best tackle in the draft, but the best for the new coaches scheme. Based on recent history, the coach will last 2 years and the player 10. So, 2 years from now, we'll wish we had drafted Okung.

We drafted 2 linemen in the 7th round and we need linemen, but they're 7th rounders. Sometimes you get a good player that late, but more often than not you don't.

All in all we got 1, maybe 2 long term starters. This would be OK for most teams, but for a 4-12 team, it's bad.

Posted by: Kidhorn | April 24, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The truth.

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 25, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

he most frustrating thing for me as a fan is that the Redskins repeatedly do poorly in rounds 2, 3, 4 & 5 largely because they always rob Peter to pay Paul. They frequently take an advance against the next season to get near term value and so far it has never paid off for them. Jarmon, Jason Taylor, Jason Campbell, on and on. The McNabb trade is the latest example of this, even though the team is supposed to be under new leadership.

The pick of an unknown linebacker in the mid rounds this year builds upon a recurring theme that has failed the team in the past. Clearly top shelf linebacking talent comes from the first two to three rounds, instead the Redskins past drafts and this one are littered with failed gambles on unknown backers; Robert McCune, Dallas Sartz, Cody Glenn, Jared Newberry, Kevin Simon, HB Blades, Robert Henson and so on. The same list could be made for fullbacks and tight ends that have failed from similar rounds.

The linebacker choice with the early 4th rounder this 2010 draft is glaring. The player was projected as the 27th best player at his position in this years draft by multiple mock draft boards. One of two things is true, the Skins judged him wrongly, OR he was going to be available MUCH, MUCH later. They did not take Cam Chancellor a good S from VA Tech or Campbell the tackle with first to second round talent from Maryland.

This is very, very, bothersome and merits explanation from Bruce and Shanahan if this LSU backer does not even make the team.

Posted by: DownTownClown | April 24, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 25, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

With the constant turnover of coaches bringin their friggin' special systems and the free agents that come with it, and with Snyder getting antsy and changing the whole operation every few years, it's difficult to imagine the Redskins as a stable, successful organization built for the long haul.

It will be hard to EVER have a successful draft until there is stability and competency here. I'm not sure we have either with Shanahan and/or Allen. And Snyder is still lurking, wondering what to make of it all, anxious for success.

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 25, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

This draft was solid, I still think the skins need a FS, maybe Ken Hamlin? He has experience and was a pro bowler and only 29 years old, still have gas left in the tank. And maybe Alen Faneca and this team will at least have a chance for playoff next year. Still need a playmaker at wide receiver though, let see if someone step up

Posted by: uyxbox360 | April 25, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

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