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Gray's tale of 2 DBs and double-moves

When cornerback Carlos Rogers got beat on a couple of double-moves, giving up long touchdowns last month, he lost his starting job and didn't get it back until DeAngelo Hall sprained his knee. Safety LaRon Landry has now given up a couple of touchdowns, but his starting job is apparently safe.

Secondary coach Jerry Gray clarified the difference today.

"I don't think Carlos lost his job," Gray said. "He got a chance to really step back and say, 'What am I doing to not make plays?' It's the same thing with LaRon. LaRon has to say, 'Okay, why are people running double-cuts on me and doing those things?'

"It's really because he's a very aggressive guy, he goes out to try to knock receivers out. If you take a look at the Dallas game, he made a lot of great plays for us in that game. So what people do is they scheme him up to beat him. And you got to be good at something in order for them to scheme you. So the thing he has to do is say, why are they scheming me, and then be calculating against those guys. And not jump every route. Once you don't jump it, the next team will say, 'Okay, I'm not going to try to run a double-cut on him.'"

Makes some sense. Translation seems to be: Stop biting on double-moves. Sooner rather than later.

Landry was beaten by the Saints on two of them last week, giving up 40- and 53-yard touchdown passes. But Gray seemed to defend Landry today, saying that even though Landry's in his third year in the league, he's still learning the free safety position. Landry, the team's first-round pick in 2007, played strong safety at LSU, but took over the free safety position shortly after Sean Taylor's death just over two years ago. After grabbing two interceptions last year, Landry is still looking for his first this season. He did get his first sack against the Saints since Nov. 4, 2007, on a rare safety blitz.

"He's going through a learning process," Gray said of Landry. "The guy was All-American strong safety, great player, really aggressive. Now you're playing free [safety], which is more cunning. You've got to be really thinking in that position. And that's the thing he has to do. He has to learn to more passive, rather than aggressive at free safety."

So how long should it take him to fully learn free safety?

"It just depends on how fast he takes a look at what he's doing," Gray said. "Like I said, this year is going to be a big learning curve for him. When he gets a chance to look at the end of the season, say, 'Okay, what did I do the last four games to stop the bleeding at what happened in the three games prior to that? Now, when they run a double-cut, is he back where he's supposed to be?"

Practice update

Missing from practice this afternoon are Albert Haynesworth, DeAngelo Hall, Mike Sellers and Edwin Williams, who was excused because of illness.

By Rick Maese  |  December 10, 2009; 1:30 PM ET
 
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red, for a bama, you're spot on with that post....
JC needs to throw for 300 yards MINIMUM....
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 10, 2009 1:33 PM

That could be trouble….everything I read says that the raiders can be run on, but not thrown on. One thing for sure is that whoever Ashamouaganamia covers won’t get any catches; probably Moss.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 10, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Except that Campbell drove the Skins into the red zone with passes and in a position for a 2 score lead ... and the play calling went run, run, run, run, run, run, missed FG.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 10, 2009 1:44 PM

Don't understand how some can't see that coaching is the real difference in these losses. Whether you're looking at red zone play calling, use of TO, clock management, two minute offense or use of personnel, coaching is not getting it done.

Posted by: Skins930 | December 10, 2009 1:51 PM

Posted by: Skins930 | December 10, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Ok... so whats the difference btw LL30 getting beat deep and CR22 getting beat deep? I thought they were going to clarify... wasnt that the point of the post?

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | December 10, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

One thing for sure is that whoever Ashamouaganamia covers won’t get any catches; probably Moss.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 10, 2009 1:47 PM

The way Moss has been dropping them lately they don't even need to cover him half the time. Trouble is, you can never know which half of the time you should cover him.

Posted by: League-Source | December 10, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 10, 2009 1:49 PM

Same could be said for our D, I still think that they need let JC be aggressive.

Oak D rankings
Pass 18
Run 30

Skins D
Pass 5
Run 24

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 10, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"He's going through a learning process," Gray said of Landry. "The guy was All-American strong safety, great player, really aggressive. Now you're playing free [safety], which is more cunning. You've got to be really thinking in that position. And that's the thing he has to do. He has to learn to more passive, rather than aggressive at free safety."

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Gray must be the only one who did not read or hear Landry's comments after the game. It is obvious from his comments that he is going to play "his" game like he always does.

Let him play "his" game at SS or bench him, but he is a liability at FS.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 10, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"I don't think Carlos lost his job," Gray said. "He got a chance to really step back and say, 'What am I doing to not make plays?'

Yeah...that's called getting benched.

Why are our coaches so afraid of being in charge and making the tough calls?

Posted by: edvar | December 10, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

dl, last 2 weeks, Ben threw for 278, and romo threw for 309 on them, so I think they can get thrown on.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 10, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"I don't think Carlos lost his job," Gray said. "He got a chance to really step back and say, 'What am I doing to not make plays?'

======================

Shankham lost his job. Hands of Stone's was reassigned. Huge difference.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 10, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Why are our coaches so afraid of being in charge and making the tough calls?

Posted by: edvar | December 10, 2009 2:02 PM

I HOPE there's a difference between the pabulum that they're feeding the press and the things they're saying to the players. Probably best not to trash a player in public until you've cut him like that kicker guy who missed the kick on Sunday.

btw, I saw it again and you were right. He should have made it. I was wrong. Thanks for your patience.

Posted by: League-Source | December 10, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

"Bama" or "Bamma" - Originated from Black youth in Washington DC.

1. Original meaning was "cant dress well" or "fashion misfit"

2. Now the word has a more general use meaning "person", as how Whites use "Dude"

3. BeantownGreg1

Posted by: RedDMV | December 10, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Same could be said for our D, I still think that they need let JC be aggressive.
Oak D rankings
Pass 18
Run 30
Skins D
Pass 5
Run 24
Posted by: Diesel44 | December 10, 2009 2:00 PM

Wow, didn’t realize that Oak’s pass d was 18th (for whatever that’s worth)…..I guess they all just hype Ashamouga as the best corner in the game (rightly so, I suppose). If the skins run plays like they did against N.O. and the Raiders don’t get much of a pass rush, JC17 should be able to complete a bunch of short to mid rangers again….let’s just hope the receivers can turn in some good YAC’s……don’t know if the deep ball will be there this week though.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 10, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Redskins v. Raiders

I think the approach to the game should be part audition based.

I mean, I'd like to see Marko Mitchell and Quniton Ganther get extended onfield time and opportunities to play.

Too, let's get R Jackson more reps at D-end.

The team might as well play into the roster and use the next month to get tape on some guys who've sat all year.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 10, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Except that Campbell drove the Skins into the red zone with passes and in a position for a 2 score lead ... and the play calling went run, run, run, run, run, run, missed FG.

That should read " ... and the play calling went all Zorny on us."

Posted by: daggar | December 10, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

dl, last 2 weeks, Ben threw for 278, and romo threw for 309 on them, so I think they can get thrown on.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 10, 2009 2:03 PM

This is not the time to go one dimensional on this team. Throw on first down and run some play action. Have some faith in Q.

Just don't be late on throws and don't take your foot off their throat and play conservative.

Posted by: Skins930 | December 10, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it is accurate that Landry was a strong safety at LSU. I think he was a free safety at LSU.

Posted by: dcsween | December 10, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Except that Campbell drove the Skins into the red zone with passes and in a position for a 2 score lead ... and the play calling went run, run, run, run, run, run, missed FG.
That should read " ... and the play calling went all Zorny on us."
Posted by: daggar | December 10, 2009 2:08 PM

That’s kinda Gibbsy if you ask me……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 10, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

daggar, what you may not realize is that those run plays were called to succeed. They weren't called to fail!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 10, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Landry is a classic million dollar talent with a 10 cent head.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 10, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Why do these coaches think that they can change player's positions. Landry is more valuable at SS and Orakpo is not a LB he's a DE. Let them play where they are more vluable to the team.

Posted by: zoober | December 10, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Why are our coaches so afraid of being in charge and making the tough calls?

Posted by: edvar | December 10, 2009 2:02 PM

Holding players accountable, criticizing (coaching), and benching doesn't fit into the coaching culture here.

Zorn is worried about his Q rating.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 10, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

He's like a cowboy who rides.........an ostrich!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 10, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Well, I don't think we should just draft a OL with our first pick. I feel like in this draft some way we could get 2 quality OL in this draft without it being our first pick.

And, do anybody think drafting Taylor Mays would be a bad idea?

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 10, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Mays is Landry part II electric bugaloo. If we go safety we take Eric Berry. If we pick in the top 5 and the Rams/Browns take QBs that means we will get either Okung, Berry, or Suh. I'd look for Tampa to take Suh and Detroit should take Okung. I'd take Berry though and be happy. If KC picks before us and grabs Okung and detroit grabs berry then we should grab spiller if we can't trade down.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 10, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Landry was a force of nature at LSU. So far in the NFL, he has been something other than a force of nature.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 10, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

1st pick, get Rolando McClain from Alabama. Spend 2 picks on GOOD O.Linmemen and get a big RB with speed. Ship 26 off.

Posted by: hbu_dog | December 10, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Strategy-wise, the Skins did the right thing running the ball. Point is that Campbell got the team into good FG position (16 yard line) and the coaches said to JC, "Thank you very much for what you did, we're going to take the game away from you and put it on Ganther, Rock and Suisham."

When people say Campbell isn't clutch, they have a point. But Campbell also had the Skins in position for 2 score leads in the 4th quarter in the last 3 games ... and the coaches made the same decision each time. And each time we wound up with a FG attempt on 4th down. So what was the run/pass mix on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down plays immediately prior to the FG attempt in those 3 games? 8 runs, 1 pass.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 10, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

daggar, what you may not realize is that those run plays were called to succeed. They weren't called to fail!

And, they were "perfect". We just didn't execute.
Believe me, Jim, if execution were an option, why I'd...

Posted by: daggar | December 10, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

he has been something other than a force of nature.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 10, 2009 2:20 PM

I think the word you're looking for is FARCE, not force.

Posted by: League-Source | December 10, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

An update from the Managers Speach in Glengarry Glen Ross


ALEC BALDWIN: “These are the Glengarry leads. And to you they're gold, and you don't get them. Why? Because to give them to you would be throwing them away. They're for closers. A-B-C. A-Always, B-Beat, C-Cowboys. Always beat Cowboys, always beat Cowboys.”

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Some of you are stubborn as mules...

Posted by: RedDMV | December 10, 2009 11:28 AM

YOU? Didn't you mean "US"?

Posted by: League-Source |

SOME? Don’t you mean “All”?

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Secondary coach Jerry Gray clarified the difference today.

"I don't think Carlos lost his job," Gray said. "He got a chance to really step back and say, 'What am I doing to not make plays?' It's the same thing with LaRon. LaRon has to say, 'Okay, why are people running double-cuts on me and doing those things?'

--Redskin Insider

I'm beginning to rethink the slow development of rookies on this team. After reading this, and as many Zorn quotes as I can stand, it's apparent nobody running the team SPEAKS ENGLISH!!

Obfuscatory Bureaucratese? Perfect. Plain English. Not so much.

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Since Johnny the Cork is throwing out lines.

"I want all of the credit and none of the blame" -Michael Scott aka Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 10, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

He's like a cowboy who rides.........an ostrich!

Posted by: dlhaze1

Classic.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 10, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

SOME? Don’t you mean “All”?

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:28 PM

We'd have to exclude flexible guys like you, Brownwood, beantown.

Posted by: League-Source | December 10, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

About Landry.

The Redskins have a half dozen strong safeties and no free safeties. Vinny's solution? Make the best strong safety play free safety.

I don't think you assign a safety to cover the best Saints receivers, especially when the game is on the line, and by himself, and especially ESPECIALLY when you have a SS playing FS.

Now if he was supposed to remain behind the receiver at all times, he was wrong. If he was playing him man-to-man, he got beat on a double move. The Redskins practically have the patent on that.

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Lendy Holmes might be a guy who sticks around with us. Maybe that guy can play Free. Somebody has got to better at it then Laron. He is best at coming up as the 8th man in the box.

Posted by: FedorEm | December 10, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

SOME? Don’t you mean “All”?

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:28 PM

We'd have to exclude flexible guys like you, Brownwood, beantown.

Posted by: League-Source |

Don't be so humble, you KNOW when we need a fourth for Bridge, we always place our first inflexible call to you.

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Laron Landry = Michael Westbrook

Posted by: ksquare | December 10, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

beantown greg1=flexible...

cram it ls...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 10, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

We'd have to exclude flexible guys like you, Brownwood, beantown.

Posted by: League-Source |

Don't be so humble, you KNOW when we need a fourth for Bridge, we always place our first inflexible call to you.

Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:38 PM

Trying to picture that bridge game. I hope you understand why I always say "no, I think I have to wash my hair."

Posted by: League-Source | December 10, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

red, for a bama, you're spot on with that post....
JC needs to throw for 300 yards MINIMUM....
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 10, 2009 1:33 PM

That could be trouble….everything I read says that the raiders can be run on, but not thrown on. One thing for sure is that whoever Ashamouaganamia covers won’t get any catches; probably Moss.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 10, 2009 1:49 PM
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Their safeties aren't solid in pass coverage. Set them up for play action by running the ball well (c'mon Ganther), send your wide receivers on fly routes to draw off their corners and then toss a few to Fred Davis underneath.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 10, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

"1st pick, get Rolando McClain from Alabama"


Well, if Oher or Loadholdt had been taken last year, a stud linebacker like McClain would be the proper choice this year.

McClain is the classic big middle linebacker--think Patrick Willis/Brian Urlacher, y'all-- who can run sideline to sideline and cover the field.

McClain shut down Tebow by himself.

Thing is, with B Spikes in the mix, the question will be which big time SEC 'backer goes first.

In any event, neither should be drafted by the skins.

We got our 'backer last year.

And we need a lineman this year.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 10, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have a half dozen strong safeties and no free safeties. Vinny's solution? Make the best strong safety play free safety.
Posted by: TheCork | December 10, 2009 2:35 PM

Problem is that LL is our best FS & SS, yet he still lacks every fundamental ever taught.

I say move him to SS and play Reed at the FS. Reed is the exact opposite when it comes to being fundamentally sound and this would eliminate the game killing big plays.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 10, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Cork someone posted a clip from NFL.com that broke down both of those double move TD. The second (game tying) double move falls on Smoot because the skins were quarters. However, your point is well taken in that because of the lack of a true FS on this team, the skins, once again, is trying convert a player's position. Luckily there will be ample FS available in FA and the draft. Hopefully the skins nab one of them.

Posted by: TWISI | December 10, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Free safety is the thinking man's position. LL is no thinking man.

Posted by: shanteefamilee | December 10, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

jerry gray is backstepping and really didn't explain shyt. he must really think some of us readers are total fuqqin noobs! while i'm not really the hooked on rogers my defense for him was that he bit on a double move in two different games. landry bit on two double moves in ONE game!!!! how do you justify that shyt? gray sat rogers because he wanted to "protect" his guy. if he knew the saints were gonna scheme on landry because of his lack of discipline (not over aggressiveness) he should've done something beforehand. i think landry has tons of talent but the way we misuse him is a goddayumm shame. gray needs to move him to ss and before each game tell him "if i see you bullshyting and flexing after a tackle, you'll ride the pine you here me?" someone said it best when they said, you shouldn't be posing and flexing if you look at the scoreboard and your team is down in points. we need a head coach that'll put discipline back in this team and we need for landry to play like he's got some common sense. it's obvious that after 2 years in the fs position he'd understand that he needs to stay back in coverage and NOT let a man get behind him. the only reason rogers got benched is because he made the comment to the press 2 months ago about the problem starting at the top. now he's in the dog house and there's no margin for error. what's sat is, he'll go to another team and suddenly learn how to catch. now ain't that a biotch!!!!

Posted by: charronegro1971 | December 10, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

What Gray won't say is that Landry is playing out of position and that the front office knows it but there aren't any other options. With Rogers, he could put in Smoot who has a lot of experience even if he's lost some speed. Landry is a strong safety who relies strictly on instincts. It's not just getting beaten on double moves. A good free safety will make an open field tackle that keeps a 15-yard play from becoming a 40 or 50 yarder.

Did Gray give LL a pass when he made a pathetic attempt to tackle Avant in the Philly game when they were driving for the tying TD? The analysts and the fans see how many times Landry doesn't wrap up and just tries to hit someone with his shoulder or forearm. He's not a fundamentally sound player like the late Sean Taylor who wrapped up on tackles and was truly the last line of defense.

There is a reason Gray isn't being even considered for a head coaching job in the NFL and that's because he can't even get his position players to follow the scheme. I hold Gray as much responsible as Blatche since almost every one of the big plays was on the secondary including the big runs where our safety didn't make the tackle.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 10, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-anatomy-of-a-play/09000d5d814d6201/WK-13-Anatomy-Brees-bombs-away

This doesnt excuse the first td Landry gave up but he was right on the 2nd He was responsible for jumping the intermediate route and Smoot was responsible for the Deep Half, however Smoot was out of position, I will put that last TD on Smoot

Posted by: Istudydrugs | December 10, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Ok to fix this we should draft eric berry
He's a real good safety can tackle and excellent in coverage. we draft him and move Dirty Thirty Back to Strong safety and our seconday is fixed.

Posted by: 21forever1 | December 10, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Big picture. Redskins gave up three big plays that lead to 21 points. Coaches are payed to make adjustments when needed. Moore came in the game and got a INT. Got it stripped. The game was still in the redskins hands to win. When it got late in the game, coaches should've told Landry to play center field and only come to the line on a safety blitz. If he is still learning, why aren't the coaches making sure they are putting him in the best position to make a play and not give up a play?

Posted by: thetruth4real | December 10, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Landry is so wrapped up in making the big play that he constantly looks silly. His first sack since 2007 this past week was almost a disaster. Instead of wrapping up he ducked his head and tried to knock out Brees with his shoulder. Brees just lost his balance and tripped, otherwise he would have stayed up and threw the ball. Landry was untouched for crying out loud. Needs to stop trying to knock people out and just make the tackle. Maybe Fletcher could work with Landry after practice! He bit on the earlier touchdown but when you are protecting a touchdown lead in the final couple of minutes how in hell do you bite and give up a long score down the middle of the field?! That doesn't even take football sense, that is just common sense. He never fails to do some kind of celebration after a semi-decent play which makes his failures look even more silly. He's in the NFL which stands for not for long unless of course Cerrato is deciding your future than who knows what will happen.
CERRATO MUST GO !!! (please before he does something else)
Way to make a move on the most accurate kicker in Redskins history with hardly any thought like the fact that the season is lost and it doesn't make a difference anyway.

Posted by: jay25 | December 11, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Jay25 for brining up Landry's "sack"! I was watching the Replay and saw the same thing. Landry had a clean shot at Brees and instead of wrapping him and driving through him, he threw his shoulder at him.....barely knocking down the 200 lb Brees. That to me is almost worse than being abused by Jacobs or Mike Turner. Those are big strong guys. This is a QB. And not even a tough-to-bring-down guy like Roethlisburger. If Brees had managed to keep his feet, the secondary would have been exposed based on the blitz.

The other thing that Gray said that I thought was funny was the line that people only scheme you if you're good at something....

"So what people do is they scheme him up to beat him. And you got to be good at something in order for them to scheme you. "

Really? Is that how that works? When teams go to Denver, they scheme to abuse Champ Bailey? Or @ the Jets, they go after Darrell Revis? Polamalu @ The Steelers? No. They go after the one they know they can beat. They see a player repeatedly doing something fundamentally wrong, they bait him and then abuse him.

You would think Laron would get tired of being shown up on the field, but based on his histrionics on making basic plays, he doesn't seem to get it. I know you have to have a degree of amnesia to play DB in the NFL, but at what point does LL have the embarrassment burned in enough to focus on his craft. And don't give me that BS about he's a SS and he can't play FS. He might be a better SS, but his errors at FS are mental and the result of poor technique. Those are things you can fix. If he can't tackle at FS, why is he suddenly going to be a better tackler at SS? The technique is the same. I would also think at SS and playing closer to the line, he will end in man coverage more often (against TEs and RBs), isn't he just as susceptible to being schemed and abused? It's not where he plays, it's how he plays. LL has a ton of talent. He is still young and has time to develop into a great safety. But we're going to have to wait until that light bulb goes on for him.

And please people stop advocating drafting ANOTHER safety with our 1st rder. Good safeties can be had for so much less, either in FA or with later picks, and the team has more pressing needs.

Posted by: ts35 | December 11, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

dayummmmm ts35. you're the man!!!! i love the way you think. thank you for that post!!!

Posted by: charronegro1971 | December 12, 2009 3:35 AM | Report abuse

A little late reading down this blog. A lot of times we use respect to not call out why LL is playing FS, why he has was drafted and for what position, and how is has adopted after his friend and our best player got murdered. That's right- murdered.

I can only imagine a past rewritten if Taylor had not gone back to Miami that weekend to rest, or even more simply if that god damned bullet had "missed" an inch to either side.

The Redskins would have the best freaking safety tandem in the game, bar none. By now folks could have been talking about all-time as both players went to yet another pro-bowl after a dominating defensive season. And Ceratto picked both, sorry to say. Even a blind squirrel...

Before we hang LL out to dry here, and whilst we are speculating which 6-8 players will have the misfortune of being selected as Washington Redskins next season why don't we consider actually using a pick to replace ST and get LL back to where he is a feared force in football?

As for Los'- he is a solid NFL player, but not a star. With our JV running backs seemingly getting things done I can only imagine my ghost of Redskins past if we had kept our Champ, our Brad Johnson, and so many others. Year in and year out we watch many of the most talented Redskins playing football, and winning for other teams. The only way to avoid this in the future is to love the ones you've got and continue to build around them by cycling through younger players until you get the 1-2 players each draft into starting or strong support roles.

Posted by: fireballhank | December 12, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

This situation with Landry is typical of the current coaching staff's bumbleing. Force a proven, great, strong safety into being a free safety. Jamb a square peg into a round hole.
The strength of Gibbs and his staff was accepting what a player does best and run full tilt with that.
This is truly the "gang that couldn't shoot straight" from the very top (owner-mgmt.) to the slack jawed, dumb founded, head coach and his staff.
Sorry Zorn, you're a sweet fella but the Redskins never should have been handed over to you as your proving grounds.

Posted by: pd2710 | December 14, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

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