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Green, Monk, Grimm Hall of Fame Finalists

Mark Maske just called this in (my, aren't our phone lines busy?):

Former Washington Redskins teammates Darrell Green, Art Monk and Russ Grimm were among the 15 modern-era finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced yesterday.
Green and Cris Carter made the list of finalists in their first year of Hall of Fame eligibility. Four to seven enshrinees will be elected by the media members who serve as selectors during a Feb. 2 meeting in Phoenix. Also under consideration are seniors committee nominees Emmitt Thomas and Marshall Goldberg.
The other modern-era finalists are former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue and former players Fred Dean, Richard Dent, Randy Gradishar, Ray Guy, Bob Kuechenberg, Randall McDaniel, Andre Reed, Derrick Thomas, Andre Tippett and Gary Zimmerman.

By Cindy Boren  |  January 15, 2008; 6:51 PM ET
 
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FIRST!

Posted by: freakzilla | January 15, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

WJLA did a nice story on Coach Joe & grandson Taylor tonight (thanks to ES for the heads up).

Here's the link:

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0108/488211_video.html?ref=newsstory

(I had to use IE to view it. The site didn't want to play nicely with Firefox. Just kept playing the Pohanka Acura ad over and over.)

Posted by: freakzilla | January 15, 2008 07:02 PM

Posted by: freakzilla | January 15, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Let's go boys, all in at the same time, that'd be sweet.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Monk, Green, Grimm and Tagliabue would make a nice Class of 2008. Three Redskins and a Redskins fan.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 15, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Wise did a nice story on Taylor, too, back at Christmas:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/25/AR2007122501222.html

Posted by: TheCindy | January 15, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Eli Manning has a quarterback rating under 60 and a completion rate under 50% when the temperature is 39 degrees or below.

Bodes well for the Giants this weekend

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

kost, what are his numbers in single-digit temperatures?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 15, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter with the NFL Network reported that Snyder met with Williams today yet again.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 15, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCindy | January 15, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, I remember that column. Read it twice when it was published. Good stuff.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 15, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, it's a lot isn't it. Do you think that maybe Grilliams has the job, and the interviews are being used more to scout out potential co-ordinator positions?

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

This is potentially a great class! Art Monk must get in! He's the Susan Lucci of Pro Football!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 15, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Kost, I don't know....maybe Snyder is trying to bluff everyone by meeting with Williams so many times.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 15, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, That'd be pretty disrespectful to Williams though wouldn't it?

Unless the rumours of his cold feet are true, and he's content to stay in his current position. But I can't see that being the case.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe its a test of williams to see how he reacts to others being looked/talked to

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

It will be worth the wait for Monk to get in if we can get Green and Grimm in the same year. Canton, Ohio will look like a sea of Burgandy and Gold all the way in outer space.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | January 15, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

I reckon that Mora and Meeks will be potential Defensive Co-ordinators, while Caldwell might be a potential offensive co-ordinator, which could be a sign that Saunders won't be around next season.

Wouldn't surprise me if we get Norm Chow in for an interview as well, now that he's been dumped by the Titans. He has a good history of developing Quarterbacks. That is of course IF the plan is to move away from Weird Al.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

I reckon that Mora and Meeks will be potential Defensive Co-ordinators, while Caldwell might be a potential offensive co-ordinator, which could be a sign that Saunders won't be around next season.

Wouldn't surprise me if we get Norm Chow in for an interview as well, now that he's been dumped by the Titans. He has a good history of developing Quarterbacks. That is of course IF the plan is to move away from Weird Al.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Monk finally gets in this year! Grimm should be in too, but I doubt the anti-redskins group will put three in at one time.

Green is a first ballot HOFer for sure, and if he isn't, they need to scrap the current selection system.

Posted by: Jason10 | January 15, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

If all three get in this will probably be the weirdest year in football history.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget 2+1=3

Posted by: alex35332 | January 15, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Gimme $5 on The Field. I keed, I keed! There's nobody in the field who really jumps out at me over especially Green and Monk. I'm would put Grimm in too, given this group, but maybe that's just a product of the misery inflicted upon me by the hogs for all those years.

So congrats Skins fans. If you can't beat 'em, outnumber 'em and then you can usually beat 'em.

Damn, Kucinich doesn't get to debate tonight. I guess that means no Mrs. Kucinich either.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 15, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 15, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

kost, it's my understanding that Chow was fired by the Titans because he DID NOT develop Vince Young...so he would not be any good for Campbell.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 15, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Stumped. If that doesn't give one hope, nothing will. It's almost like a Woody Allen thing, but more romantic because Dennis didn't adopt Elizabeth before he married her.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 15, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Smack,
When you watch Dallas Washington games with your Cowboys fans, they must be blown away about how well you know the enemy.

What kind of moves do you think Dallas will make in the off season?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 15, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

There are already too many Redskin players from that era in the Hall. Just from the 1987 and 1991 championship teams there is, ummm, errr, ummmm ... help me out here guys ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 15, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

"Dennis didn't adopt Elizabeth before he married her."

Er, yeah.
(LMGO)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 15, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, you're right, I just think that Vince Young is a different type of Quarterback to what Chow was used to (Palmer, Leinart, Steve Young etc). Maybe, like Vick, Vince Young just isn't going to be a great passer. And lets not forget that they have no decent receivers.

But maybe I'm wrong and maybe he's just another college coach who couldn't cut it at the pro level.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

For those interested in Monk and the Hall of Fame, check out this site. Lots of interesting stuff.

http://artmonk.wordpress.com/

There is a video link that is fun to watch.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 15, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I know he won't ever get in the hall of fame since he only played for 3 1/2 years, but for Sean, it would be a nice symbol if 2 or even possibly 3 redskins made the hall in this the season he passed.

Let's be honest...we all know he would've been enshrined there one day, had Eric Rivera not murdered him.

R.I.P 21. Here's to hoping 28, 81, and 68 can make it there for you.

Posted by: barno | January 15, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Right on B!

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 15, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Out of the 17 guys, only 5 haven't been here before. Two are the senior guys, two are the newly eligible (Carter and Green) and the other is McDaniel.

In 2007, it went like this ...

17-11 cut: Russ Grimm, Ray Guy, Bob Kuechenberg, Andre Reed, Paul Tagliabue

11-6 cut: Fred Dean, Richard Dent, Art Monk, Derrick Thomas, Andre Tippett


Gradishar might have a shot because there are so few Broncos in the Hall and he is running out of chances.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 15, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Norm Chow got fired? Damn... I missed that. Let's interview HIM for the head gig. That'll satisfy the Rooney Rule. Then hire him as OC if Weird Al leaves.

Posted by: PBL4 | January 15, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Smack,
When you watch Dallas Washington games with your Cowboys fans, they must be blown away about how well you know the enemy.

What kind of moves do you think Dallas will make in the off season?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 15, 2008 08:35 PM

Same with all of yours. It's rarified air up up here. Most of the Skins fans at work can't even name your starting O line. Casual fans are still fans though, in fact sometimes I envy them. Though I must admit the most knowledgeable football fan I've ever met is a Skins fan. But he is also seriously disturbed. (And coming from me...)

Okay, Cowboys:

Kill Tony Romo by beating him with Julius Jones

Trade those two carcasses for Tom Brady and Randy Moss

Trade our #5 pick and Terry Glenn to Miami for the #1 pick and Darren McFadden.

Patrick Crayton for Braylon Edwards

Hire Jim Caldwell, a GM, and Dennis Kucinich.

Somebody find out what Wade Wilson does.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 15, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

5th round pick...

There are very few QBs in the league I would choose under Vince Young.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 15, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I always thought Wade Wilson was your 3rd string QB.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I also think it's a bit harsh to blame Vince Young's season on Norm Chow. Let's not forget who was on the cover of Madden 08!

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I'm pro-Kucinich...and winged unicorn.

And pro-Crayton, that guy carried me through a few fantasy games this year (uh, having Brady helped too).

Some say Wade Wilson is aka Deadpool.
http://www.statueforum.com/statuearchive/news/data/upimages/1136207300.jpg

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 15, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 15, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I know that it wasn't Grimm, and that nobody knows for sure, but is it possible that the unidentified candidate who came in last week was a coordinator for a playoff team?? That would explain why they kept it hush-hush... maybe even Garrett or another Cowboys coach?

Posted by: PBL4 | January 15, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

PBL4 - I don't think that it's allowed. If they were to get caught doing that they could be fined as many as two ham sandwiches.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Norm Chow got fired? Damn... I missed that. Let's interview HIM for the head gig. That'll satisfy the Rooney Rule. Then hire him as OC if Weird Al leaves.

Posted by: PBL4 | January 15, 2008 09:02 PM

This is a joke, right? Norm Chow couldn't make it in Tennessee. Why would we want him here? The guy's a college coach, not a pro coach.

I reckon that Mora and Meeks will be potential Defensive Co-ordinators, while Caldwell might be a potential offensive co-ordinator, which could be a sign that Saunders won't be around next season.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 08:05 PM

Kost, Meeks and Caldwell will both be head coaches within a year or two. We want coaches who will be with the team longer than that.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 15, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I know that it wasn't Grimm, and that nobody knows for sure, but is it possible that the unidentified candidate who came in last week was a coordinator for a playoff team?? That would explain why they kept it hush-hush... maybe even Garrett or another Cowboys coach?

Posted by: PBL4 | January 15, 2008 09:15 PM

No, this is not possible. Assistants from playoff teams can only be interviewed in their cities. They can't fly to DC.

How do we even know that someone was interviewed?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 15, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

PBL4 - I don't think that it's allowed. If they were to get caught doing that they could be fined as many as two ham sandwiches.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 09:18 PM

It's NOT allowed. (Of course, it would reflect worse on the coaches than on the Redskins) But has that really stopped us before? Remember when the Patriots almost filed tampering charges against us for talking to Lawyer Milloy before he was formally cut?

Posted by: PBL4 | January 15, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

te - I had just started writing why I thought Caldwell wouldn't be a Head Coach, and in checking my facts, found them to be wrong.

I thought I read somewhere that he was a 60 year old, offensive co-ordinator who has never called the plays, and who's only Head Coaching experience was at Wake Forest, where his record was 26-63.

I thought that being that age, he was a bit old to get his first HC role, and that he was more likely to be a career co-ordinator like Monte Kiffin or Jim Johnson.

Caldwell is 52, so he's not THAT old.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

How do we even know that someone was interviewed?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 15, 2008 09:31 PM

It was reported by both the national sports media and The Beat Reporter.

Posted by: PBL4 | January 15, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Who said the interview last Friday was in DC? Snyder has a plane and likes to travel....

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 15, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Since the Redskins haven't officially announced any of the candidates they've interviewed, the mystery man is either someone SO left field that no one has asked him (or his agent) if he's been interviewed, or he's denied it when asked which makes him a liar, liar pants of fire.

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep!!

Posted by: kost52 | January 15, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: PBL4 | January 15, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Uh, if Cris Carter gets in and Monk doesn't - are we going to get a posse together and burn the HoF building down???

Posted by: cmecyclist | January 16, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

It's the Hall of Shame until Art Monk gets inducted.

Posted by: CHICO13 | January 16, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Don't hold your breath for any Skins players to get in. The Redskins went to 4 Superbowls in 8 years, and won 3. Yet only Gibbs and Riggins are in the Hall of Fame from that Era. It might sound whiny, but for some reason the voters don't give the Skins any credit.

If Art Monk, who had the record for most receptions in a career when he retired, can't get in after four years, what sets Grimm and Green apart? With two Redskin haters like Len Pasquarelli (ESPN) and Peter King (Sport Illustrated) as 2 of the 44 voters, don't get your hopes up.

Posted by: migraine_boy98 | January 16, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

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