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The Defense at the Bye

From Jason Reid:

Greg Blache was promoted from defensive line coach to defensive coordinator, replacing Gregg Williams, during the staff shakeup that occurred after Joe Gibbs retired in January.

A successful coordinator with the Chicago Bears before joining the Redskins, Blache for the most part has retained the scheme he had helped Williams run since the 2004 season. "It's really just the natural evolution of it," said linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti, a longtime Redskins assistant.

"Each year, you look at how you do everything and where you can maybe make it better, add something or take something out. It's about trying to get better, so you're always evaluating what you do. There are always things you look at to see if you can make better, but" the foundation hasn't changed.

Under Williams, now the Jacksonville Jaguars' coordinator, Washington had three top-10 finishes in four seasons. Through nine games, the Redskins rank fourth in the league, giving up an average of 272.1 yards. They give up only 80.7 yards rushing, fifth in the NFL, and are seventh in passing defense at 191.4 yards.

"I definitely think we've done some good things and shown the potential we have as a defense," defensive end Andre Carter said. "Our coaches have done a great job just getting us prepared and putting us in good positions to make plays, and now we have to keep building on that."

With Carter and defensive end Jason Taylor, acquired on the first day of training camp, the Redskins envisioned having one of the league's best edge-rushing tandems. Taylor, however, has not displayed the form that helped him become one of the league's top pass rushers in his first 11 seasons with the Miami Dolphins.

Taylor has had two surgical procedures on his left calf because of acute compartment syndrome, a buildup of pressure on muscle groups caused by internal bleeding, and was hampered by a knee injury early in the season. In six games, Taylor has been credited with 12 tackles, including eight unassisted, and only one sack.

Taylor, 34, has rarely resembled the All-Pro performer and former NFL defensive player of the year for whom the Redskins dealt a second-round pick in 2009 and a sixth-round pick in 2010 and to whom the team owes $8 million this season and $8.5 million next season. "But Jason, just being out there, helps us," middle linebacker London Fletcher said. "Teams have to pay attention to him because everyone knows what he can do when he's healthy, and that just opens up things for other guys."

Fletcher has continued to deliver in his second season with the Redskins, leading the team with 75 tackles, including 51 unassisted. His leadership on the field and in the locker room helped the team make a smooth transition from Williams, for whom Fletcher played in Buffalo, to Blache. Versatile defensive lineman Demetric Evans has been almost as important as Fletcher to the group's success.

With Taylor often sidelined and unproductive when he plays, the Redskins needed a boost from someone to fill the role Taylor was expected to have on the team. Evans does not possess Taylor's physical tools, but his work ethic, determination and selfless approach have enabled him to shine in a supporting role.

Evans had 2½ sacks in Monday's 23-6 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers at FedEx Field and leads the team with four. The Redskins have only 15 sacks as a team, tied for 19th in the league. Evans has started in place of Taylor at left end and also plays inside in nickel situations. The defensive line would be in big trouble without him.

Weak-side linebacker Rocky McIntosh has impressed in his return from season-ending knee surgery. Coaches and teammates admire his aggressive approach.

Cornerback Carlos Rogers is having the best season of his career after also having season-ending knee surgery, but Rogers still drops too many would-be interceptions. Cornerback Shawn Springs has played in only four games because of shin and calf injuries. Against big wide receivers, however, the 12-year veteran still excels at press-man coverage.

Rookie safety Chris Horton, a seventh-round draft pick from UCLA, has been the standout of, to this point, an unproductive 10-member draft class. Horton still has a lot to learn, coaches said, but he makes plays.

In only his second season, safety LaRon Landry still is adjusting to the leadership role he assumed when Sean Taylor died. The group lacks depth, in part, because versatile safety Reed Doughty was placed on the season-ending injured reserve list because of a back injury. The team may opt to address that by signing DeAngelo Hall.

So, how will Washington's defense fare in the final seven games? Well, Blache, secondary coach Jerry Gray, safeties coach Steve Jackson and Olivadotti have a lot of experience in this system and know their personnel well, so coaching shouldn't be among the Redskins' problems.

Springs should return after the bye week, which would strengthen the secondary, and his presence could lead to more interceptions. The Redskins are tied for 17th in the league with six interceptions, and Blache would prefer that total to be much higher.

More sacks would be nice, too. Despite Fletcher's comments about Taylor's presence on the field, the bottom line is the guy has one sack. In fairness, Taylor has had a lot to deal with physically, but the Redskins need more from him. Even if Taylor does little in the final seven games, the Redskins should be fine on defense, as long as the group has no major injuries.

"I think we just started to show what we can do," Carter said. "It's just about staying hungry."

By Cindy Boren  |  November 7, 2008; 7:30 AM ET
 
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Comments

Vinny is responsible for the injuries to JT. The Ravens would have never made that move.

Posted by: AceLegend | November 7, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Hall is a solid player and has ok character but surrounding yourself with the redskins locker is contagious and can turn the worst of characters into great people great head coach and great leaders I wouldnt want to piss up rock or fletch those guys can turn him from a pro bowl player to a all pro player

Posted by: drkeller1 | November 7, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Ace, are you directing those comments as Jasno? Reid submitted this post.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 7, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

According to reports, the Ravens MAY be interested in Hall(they supposedly had conversation about him, but it's not clear what, if any, decision was made whether or not to pursue him) and the Cowboys? "But the Cowboys don't seem interested in the former Pro Bowl corner. Dallas owner Jerry Jones is pals with psycho Al Davis, so that may have something to do with it."

Interesting.

Posted by: craig2 | November 7, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

First, cl, congrats to you, and your family on your great news. Truly happy to hear of your arrival, and that everyone is healthy.

I'm still unsure about Hall. While I trust that this locker room wouldn't let him come in and disrupt it, someone posted some stats yesterday about how badly Hall had been getting torched, and it wasn't pretty.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 7, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

geez. Where is everyone this morning?

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 7, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

I agree with drkeller, the leadership in locker room and good coaching, and winning attitude can turn a player around. Hall might be needed for a constantly banged up secondary. He can also catch the ball, which is something they don't seem to practice in redskins secondary.
don't expect JTaylor to make an impact when healthy, Parcells let him go for a reason.

Posted by: aintlifegrand | November 7, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

hall did quit on falcons. falcons were in turmoil then just like the skins were when bailey wanted out. get him for the rest of the year only and hopefully not too expensive. he most likely would not go to dallas because of the possibly of the skins getting to the playoffs. springs is pretty much done and his contract is up this year. i have no idea why ace would say something so dumb about vinny causing jt injuries.

Posted by: rls1041 | November 7, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if Vinny will drop nuggets on his show this morning abot D. Hall. The more I think about this potential deal, the more I like it. Hall won't be counted on to assume a leadership position, a skill he seems to be lacking. He can come in here, learn a role (i.e. nick;e defense), learn the redskin way of studying and working hard. I can definitely see the positives if a deal is done here.

Posted by: TWISI | November 7, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I love the fact that Joe Gibbs is going to come to some Skins games after Nascar is over.

He still loves this team and his players :)

Hail Joe Gibbs The Chief!

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-5-34/Redskins-to-honor-Sean-Taylor-on-Nov--30.html

Posted by: leevi98 | November 7, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

If you look at the big picture of how Hall can help the offense as well He is a good Punt returner and with randell el getting a little old and Moss hobbling a bit this give a change for Randle el to concentrait as the second WR and gives a 3 person threat on the punt returns all of which have three different punt return styles worst case release him at the end of the year no worries at all on thsi go for it

Posted by: drkeller1 | November 7, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the answer on my ESPN Insider subscription yesterday. I think I'll pass if that's all you get for your money.

Like I said yesterday - sign the guy. If we really are so banged up as everyone says, then the upside outweighs the down side. If it doesn't work out - cut him. Does anyone have punt return stats on him? It seems if he's going to do that well he would be a good pickup plus the cornerback 2nd string fill in.

Posted by: captjim | November 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Cl,

Congrats, as a father of two young girls all I can say is good luck to you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 7, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: captjim | November 7, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

CL grats bud. What a fantastic day for you.

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Vinny is responsible for the injuries to JT. The Ravens would have never made that move.

Posted by: AceLegend | November 7, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

That is right he is responsible for signing a 33 year old DE and paying a lot for him. So far he's been a bust. That's the way it is bud the buck stops at Vinny.


He gets praise for drafting Horton. No one is saying DeWayne Walker gave the coaching staff the "in" on this guy so Vinny doesn't deserve credit.


You guys are so boring with this crap. I wish you'd go somewhere else and cry like little girls. Try this site you'll fit right in http://www.planetcarebears.com/

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I say, sit Hall down with Zorn and Blanch and if they say lets do this than do it. Coaches call, lets get an idea how this staff can judge people on the personal level. I mean, this would after all give us the best Dime formation in the league. Just think of seeing, Smoot, Horton, Rodgers, Springs, Laundry, and Hall all set back there with LFB, Carter, Goldy, Griff, and a healthy JT coming at you.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 7, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Vinny is responsible for the injuries to JT. The Ravens would have never made that move.

Posted by: AceLegend | November 7, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

That is right he is responsible for signing a 33 year old DE and paying a lot for him. So far he's been a bust. That's the way it is bud the buck stops at Vinny.


He gets praise for drafting Horton. No one is saying DeWayne Walker gave the coaching staff the "in" on this guy so Vinny doesn't deserve credit.


You guys are so boring with this crap. I wish you'd go somewhere else and cry like little girls. Try this site you'll fit right in http://www.planetcarebears.com/

You couldn't be more correct. I mean he clearly was showing not only signs of age but massive injury that could not be ignored. Its not like he had a masive conscutive game streak going or anything. It's def not like he was defesive player of the year not 2 years ago. It was a HUGE gamble.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 7, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

You guys are so boring with this crap. I wish you'd go somewhere else and cry like little girls. Try this site you'll fit right in http://www.planetcarebears.com/

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Oh man, another Cork! Your both idiots.

Posted by: craig2 | November 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Pleep,

You haven't heard me cry about the trade but people who take shots at JLC for pointing out the fact that we paid a lot for someone with 1 sack is lame. I'm so tired of half the posts on here being about JLC and his supposed hate for the Skins.

This is a zero sum business and there are no points for good intentions.

P.S. How many people here think Vinny drives home in his 100k Mercedes worried about what people are saying about your job performance?

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins are among the teams free agent cornerback DeAngelo Hall is considering after clearing waivers Thursday, according to his agent, Joe Segal. Segal would not comment on how many teams are pursuing Hall, or specifics of offers, but said that Hall, a former Virginia Tech star, is intrigued by the possibility of signing with Washington.

This doesn't mean the team is interested in him. Every agent throws out the Skins name

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 7, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Why all the hand-wringing about signing Hall? Two questions:

1) Is he better than Leigh Torrence? If YES, then sign him.

2) Is he better than Justin Tryon? If YES, then sign him.

Only if the answers to both of those questions are NO do you not sign him. The character issues aren't sufficient to have an impact over the course of the rest of this season. Over the long term, that's a greater concern.

His punt return skills are a bonus, and keeping him away from the Pokes (and Pats and Steelers) can only help.

Posted by: Good2bOK | November 7, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Oh it's Craig and his name calling don't worry about the facts you chooch you just keep name calling people who don't share your view.

2nd rounder for 1 sack so far=Bust. Why don't you tell me why it's not.

If he had 10 sacks Vinny would be a genius but he doesn't. Who knows maybe he'll get 10 sacks and lead us to the SB but right now It walks like a duck and Quacks like one so that is what it is right now.

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Once again Reid points out the team weakness without the hate. Is it too much for JLC to do the same?

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 7, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I agree JM. Throw the skins name in there and the price jumps up. I must admit with our stable locker room and if he can be had for the right price i'd be intrigued.

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

It walks like a duck and Quacks like one so that is what it is right now.

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse


A clinchpoop?

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 7, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Pleep,

You haven't heard me cry about the trade but people who take shots at JLC for pointing out the fact that we paid a lot for someone with 1 sack is lame. I'm so tired of half the posts on here being about JLC and his supposed hate for the Skins.

This is a zero sum business and there are no points for good intentions.

P.S. How many people here think Vinny drives home in his 100k Mercedes worried about what people are saying about your job performance?

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

I believe that Vinny really cares about his job, regardless of how you judge his performance. I also believe that he does care what the fans think. Anytime you put everything you have into something and it is the biggest part of your life how can you help but care.

Posted by: Pleepleus | November 7, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I found his career punt and kick return stats on ESPN for Atlanta, but none from Raiders. Maybe he hasn't returned punts there. He didn't return a lot in Atlanta.

In 41 games:

Punts
13 punts returned
123 total yards
0 TD's
3 Fair catches
27 longest

Kick returns
3 returned
93 total yards
0 TD's
0 Fair catches
48 longest

Posted by: captjim | November 7, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I actually dont agree, Skins don't have the $$$ to make Hall into a bidding war, so throwing the name out there is a waste of time, How much cap room we have? 2-3 mill?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

JM, you should know that we always confirm things we are told by finding a second source. We don't run one-source info for the very reason you mention -- agents could use us.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 7, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Didn't get a chance to keep up with everything yesterday because of the w word.
Wanted to congratulate chRiSsLarRy on the birth of his little girl. Amazing times are ahead for you. Sleepless times start right now. Congratulations!!!

Posted by: BCBarney | November 7, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Pleep,

I agree he cares about his job too. I don't dislike Vinny as a person. I do however think he's responsible for the decisions he's made (or unfortunately for him those made by his boss that get attributed to him) So far JT has been a mistake. That isn't to say that he won't be the difference down the stretch.

My comment was directed at yet another tired comment about JLa (Even though this was written by J Reid) and his hate for everything Skins (I agree he hates Vinny)

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

JM220, our local sports station CSN reported that the Skins have contacted Hall so the report is legit. CSN practically lives at Redskins Park and this was a "late breaking" report during Sportsnite last night.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 7, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Here are some quotes about Hall from ESPN. Sounds pretty good - SIGN HIM!


Oct 20 News: Hall picked off his third pass of the season in the Raiders' victory over the Jets on Sunday.

Spin: With teams avoiding fellow cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, Hall has seen plenty of balls thrown his direction. Hall has responded well to the challenge, recording an interception in three of his last four games.
Sep 29 News: Hall had two passes defended and an interception in the Raiders' loss to the Chargers on Sunday.

Spin: Hall also picked off a pass last Sunday and despite teams often throwing his direction, has had a very good start to his Raiders' career.
Sep 22 News: Hall recorded four tackles and an interception in the Raiders' loss to the Bills on Sunday.

Spin: Hall is a play-maker and should pick up a few interceptions this season playing opposite of Nnamdi Asomugha.
Sep 14 News: Hall (hand) is listed as active for Sunday's game against the Chiefs.

Spin: It wasn't pretty, but Hall racked up seven tackles in Week 1. Assuming his hand isn't too much of an impediment, he should get some picks, especially if opposing teams avoid throwing Nnamdi Asomugha's way.
Sep 11 News: Hall missed Wednesday's practice with an elbow injury, the Contra Costa Times reports.

Spin: Hall said he hurt his elbow in the first half of last Monday's game against the Broncos; however, he said he will be ready to play Sunday against the Chiefs. Hall has the potential for a big game against a weak Kansas City passing offense and should be in your lineup if he's on your fantasy squad.

Posted by: captjim | November 7, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I have said it befor and again, in the war between the Post and the Skins the only individual that has ever struck me as a bad person, has the initials LM. Everyone else is just a guy, or lady, trying to do their job.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 7, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I think we should just march on the Washington Post building and stone jasno to death.

On another note, congratulations CL

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 7, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

JM, you should know that we always confirm things we are told by finding a second source. We don't run one-source info for the very reason you mention -- agents could use us.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 7, 2008 9:35 AM

Hey Cindy,

Just wandering since no were has anyone said the Skins are interested in Hall, why the last post was called Skins pursue Hall.

JLC in his colum today named it Hall interested in Skins.

Do you have any statements from the Skins saying they are interested in Hall?

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

John, start martching now, we will see you arrond new years.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Hall is a solid player and has ok character but surrounding yourself with the redskins locker is contagious and can turn the worst of characters into great people great head coach and great leaders I wouldnt want to piss up rock or fletch those guys can turn him from a pro bowl player to a all pro player

Posted by: drkeller1 | November 7, 2008 7:53 AM |

I'm not convinced. I remember Brandon Lloyd was here for a few years and he never was influenced by the 'Skins locker. He left the same sorry, self-absorbed slug that he was when he arrived.

Thing about Hall, though, is if he's only here for a season, then he's going to have to be on good behavior. He's got to prove that the Falcons and the Raiders were both wrong, or his next contract will be at the vet minimum with no signing bonus. He's also got to get a situation where he can have a ton of playing time, and I don't think that's the 'Skins.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 7, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Cyn but JLC story said that the Skins had no comment. Thanks Lisa.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 7, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Congrats cL....

Posted by: Zeebs | November 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I have said it befor and again, in the war between the Post and the Skins the only individual that has ever struck me as a bad person, has the initials LM. Everyone else is just a guy, or lady, trying to do their job.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 7, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Agree 100% Alex.

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, please see my post above. Last night on CSN, they broke into the show to report that "Kelli Johnson is reporting that Hall has been contacted BY THE SKINS."

Kelli is the CSN Skins beat reporter...she is at the Park all the time....does interviews with the players, coaches, etc. and has the inside scoop.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 7, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, they had no comment.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Gweez -- I have no problem with your whining about JT not getting anything done at this point, it's this crap:
"He gets praise for drafting Horton. No one is saying DeWayne Walker gave the coaching staff the "in" on this guy so Vinny doesn't deserve credit.

You guys are so boring with this crap. I wish you'd go somewhere else and cry like little girls. Try this site you'll fit right in http://www.planetcarebears.com/

That shows me your an idiot. You decide to discount the Horton pick because somebody recommended him? Do you think Horton was the only player that was recommended to Vinny?

You and Cork would rather slant the issues towards your hatred than the simple reality.

And calling you an idiot isn't "name-calling", it is my opinion of both of your ability to see the facts as they are rather than interpreting them into your personal feelings.

Posted by: craig2 | November 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

One of you mentioned Romo's pinkie yesterday and questioned whether it was a pinkie bone or a hand bone that was broken. Haven't found precise details, but I did find this photo today....

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Looks kind of like the end of his pinkie, no?

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, they had no comment.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 7, 2008 9:56 AM |

And, did you confirm this with a second source, or did you just take their word for it? ;-)

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Doesnt matter, D Evans is gonna blow it up just like he blew up Big Bens wrist (i know they said it happened on the sneak, but his hit didnt help_)

Posted by: Zeebs | November 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I would absolutely take Hall at a reasonable price. The guy is a clear talent and a potential game-breaker, he's only 24, and he would fit right in with the swag that this team naturally carries itself with. On a team with strong leadership (not fake leadership, like TO and the Cowboys), this could potentially be the long-term solution to Springs' inevitable decline (and we wouldn't have to spend yet another draft pick on the secondary).

Clearly he's better than Torrence, Tryon, and probably Smoot as well. Rogers and Springs would have their positions locked down as long as they're healthy. Is he a lock-down corner? No. But, don't confuse that with being a poor player.

Posted by: psps23 | November 7, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Kelli is the CSN Skins beat reporter...she is at the Park all the time....does interviews with the players, coaches, etc. and has the inside scoop.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 7, 2008 9:55 AM |

Lisa,

Thats great but I need to here it from more then one person, if it is true some other entity would have reported it by now.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 7, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"He gets praise for drafting Horton. NO ONE IS SAYING DeWayne Walker gave the coaching staff the "in" on this guy so Vinny doesn't deserve credit.

That shows me your an idiot. You decide to discount the Horton pick because somebody recommended him? Do you think Horton was the only player that was recommended to Vinny?

Posted by: craig2 | November 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Reading comp is your friend. Give it a shot. Do you understand what "no one is saying..." means? It means that there isn't anyone saying it. I am someone and therefore am not saying it.

You keep trying to group me with Cork. I often disagree with Cork but unlike you don't feel the need to shout people down just because I don't agree with them. But hey you keep name calling, who knows maybe some other person who wasn't taught how to share differing opinions in Kindergarten will pile on as well.

Posted by: Gweez | November 7, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I'm still trying to figure out why Hall was cut NOW, and guessing it's a combination of money, performance (the dude became a target, playing opposite one of the best CBs in the game in a horrible, horrible defense) and the need to make a "statement" and try to right that severely listing pirate ship adrift in the Bay.

From the Oakland Tribune:

"This move had nothing to do with money and everything to do with performance, the Raiders said.

"Maybe so, but the Raiders benefit a great deal by waiving Hall now. He was slated to earn $16.55 million in bonus and salary in 2009. The Raiders now don't have to account for that figure against their salary cap.

"Any team that claims Hall before the 24-hour waiver window closes this afternoon would be liable for eight-seventeenths of Hall's $1 million base salary. The Raiders are on the hook for Hall's $7 million signing bonus and would have to pay Hall's entire base salary, if he goes unclaimed off waivers."

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_10911154

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 7, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

We should know about Hall soon. Said they wanted to pick a team by the w/e. If it's not big money it can't hurt to bring him in. I fully expect Springs to come back and play against Dallas and then be out again for weeks with a torn vag. If Hall is a problem, he can be shown the door.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Seems worth a mention that not only is Romo injured and likely to be less than 100% in that game, the week following we have the Seahens, among whose litany of woes is a just-won't-go-away injury to their Hasselbeck.

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/seahawks/2008/11/06/matt_hasselbeck_14.html

Not to look ahead or nothin'... just sayin'...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Anyone here play QB in HS or at College? How important is the pinky to throwing the ball? I mean I have tossed a ball in the back yard and feel like you kinda need all 5 fingers. how does 4/5th's of a hand effect the toss?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, Chris Mortensen (ESPN) reported it as well.

But if the report came from Kelli Johnson with CSN, I totally believe it. CSN is our local sports station and they do all the Redskins programs(Redskins pregame and postgame shows, Redskins Nation with Larry Michael, etc.).

Speaking of Larry Michael, he was asked about the possibility of Hall on his show yesterday (before the reports came out) and he said "no comment" - or words to that effect. Which means the Skins are interested in Hall.

However, I still believe Hall will be a Cowboy by the end of the day.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 7, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Zeebs, I think it was Ben hitting Montgomerys arm on a throw, that hurt his wrist.

Skins GOTTA, GOTTA destroy dallas. I'm not driving 8 hours down for my first game at FedEx to see a loss.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Wow, did Staubach slam that pinky in a car door or something? While rescuing the family inside, naturally.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Talent,

Ia gree with the comparison between Lloyd and Hall but i think the adition of the coach in Zorn that we have helps a lot too Gibbs was not in players faces like Zorn is it cant hurt for a half year deal you hit it on the nose with proving atl and oak wrong or else

Posted by: drkeller1 | November 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

sign d hall sign d hall sign d hall

Posted by: FAB88 | November 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Its simple! Just sign Hall, and if we dont like him then cut him at the end of year. Smoot and Springs are always banged up, and they are not that young anymore. The potential of having an elite backfield with Rogers and Hall(if it works out) next season would be worth it. Like someone else said he can do nickel duties and return punts for now. Until Springs goes down again. Maybe Hall doesnt want to come cuz he can't wear 21. If thats the case sorry Deangelo.

Posted by: MeeSoZorny | November 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

UH you guys no ESPN is already saying we signed him right?

Posted by: 44riggosranger44 | November 7, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Uh you guys know we already signed him right? At least ESPN thinks so.

Posted by: 44riggosranger44 | November 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Skins have a lot of former Pro Bowl vets (and one who deserves it in Fletcher) that can bring DeAngelo down to earth and make him a team player. He'll bring good energy to the defense and special teams.

Posted by: frak | November 7, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

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