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Guess Who's Back, Back Again

So the word is that Novak is the new kicker. We'll see if we get an official annoucnement any time soon.

it took three straight years of leg problems for Coach Joe to cut the cord with Hall, but it seems like it's finally happened.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 10, 2006; 2:35 PM ET
 
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Welcome back, Nick. How's the hair?

Posted by: P Diddy | October 10, 2006 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Thank god... Hall's leg was complete jello.

Too bad they didn't realize this during the offseason like all of us idiot fans did... maybe it could have saved us against Minny in the opener.

But Saint Joe is always right and the idiot fans never know what they're talking about... right?

anybody seen TJ Duckett? oh yeah, idiot fan here.

OUT

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 10, 2006 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Woo-hoo!!! I know Novak is not a savior, this fixes only part of the puzzle, but as a Terp Alum, I can't help but be happy for the guy. This kid has done nothing but be clutch wherever he's gone but can't get a job? blows my mind, I'm just glad to have him around for however long.

Posted by: Gregarious | October 10, 2006 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Its about darn time...Welcome back Nick!

Posted by: MK15 | October 10, 2006 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Replace the names Hall with Brunell and Novack with Campbell.........Then I think everyone who reads the blog would post a ye-ha!

Posted by: A Dog | October 10, 2006 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Jason: Any chance the 'Skins bring in punter Todd Sauerbrun (just cut by Denver) and give him a look? It looked like Frostie was reverting back to his old ways last week.

Posted by: Chief Clancy Wiggum | October 10, 2006 2:59 PM | Report abuse

jason, any word on who nick beat/what other kickers showed up for the competition?

sauerburn's available now if they want to drop frost as well...

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 2:59 PM | Report abuse

All kickers aside, ArtMonktotheSticks and I have spent a lot of time this weekend in sorrow, having a good cry and then getting depressed again. The fact is, this loss is worse than others. I don't want to overanalyze the game because again, this one was really tough to take. To me, and AMTTS, if we had to choose the one most glaring problem on the team, it is pressuring the QB. We cannot touch the QB, plain and simple. Did you all watch the TO bowl? Bledsoe got murdered. McNabb even ran for his life there and it resulted in a Cowpukes touchdown by Ware, who we should have drafted if we were going to draft defense but Mike Williams was the real choice...but I digress.

What do you guys think about bringing in Jonathan Sullivan, the 25 year-old DT just cut by the Pats. He was a huge star at Georgia, the Saints traded their mothers away to grab him at the sixth spot because everyone wanted that guy. The only real negative I have heard about the guy is that his conditioning sux. They cut him in NE because they already have 3 pro-bowl caliber tackles.

Jason, or Cindy the Editoress, have we heard anything about Sullivan coming in? Can we place a call to an agent? What is going on here?

Posted by: The Governor | October 10, 2006 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Ex-Terp special teams standouts, where is Brooks Barnard?? He got a 1 or 2 game stint in the league with NE, but I have no doubt in my mind the guy is twice as good as Frost.

Posted by: RIP Cooley's Afro | October 10, 2006 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey there! Sorry I'm late to the party.
We know that former Redskin Jose Cortez, former Falcon Todd Peterson and training camp cut Tyler Jones tried out, according to Howard Bryant. Candidates were kept away from reporters and the team did not immediately comment on the tryout.

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Good news that Novak's come in. Hopefully we can bring a little consistency back into the kicking game. Novak's not a Chip Lohmiller, but to mince a quote, "Tis enough. 'Twill serve."

But reading the quick article on the sports frontpage... Sean Landeta? What in the heck? Aren't we already just 10 players away from having the second coming of the "Over The Hill" gang as it is?

Posted by: FlimFlam | October 10, 2006 3:12 PM | Report abuse

J-La, when is the Nick Novak jersey going to be available? Seriously, all you Terp fans who've been lobbying for your boy need to represent.

Sauerbrun has already had 2 drug violations. His next suspension is going to be for a year. Anyone remember his silly kicker feud with Gramatica? Dude is a serious turd. I'm good with Frosty.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 10, 2006 3:17 PM | Report abuse

thanks jason's editor. i was gonna say anyone but jose cortez!!!! that dude's horrible. thank god! though i heard jones was decent? no?

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 3:17 PM | Report abuse

We were kidding Jess Atkinson, who does video for our website, about being one of the candidates!

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 3:20 PM | Report abuse

If they had signed Cortez I might've jumped out the window. Novak is 8-10 lifetime and 15-15 on XPs and his leg doesn't fall off every other week like Hall. It's also a good PR move since he's local and all. And now Frost should be able to focus on his normal job and hopefully curb the shanks. I'll take it!

Posted by: Posse Redux | October 10, 2006 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Anyone got Moseley's phone number...he can still kick!!!

Enough with the Brunell bashing...the guy just broke an NFL record!!! Let's bash the offensive guru genious that was shown the door in KC

Posted by: Snavemot | October 10, 2006 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Riddle me this Batman, teams go deep 30+ yards consistently against our Cover 2 defense, yet we either can't or don't try to go deep against the Giants Cover 2, oh and bye the way they have one of the worst secondarys in the NFL!!

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Jones was okay, but Novak actually won a game for them and, besides, I like the nickname "AutomatNick."

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Naw, let's bash man-boobs for the fiasco that is Archuletta, Wright, Rumph, Holdman.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 10, 2006 3:24 PM | Report abuse

If I recall, Novack is a consistent field goal kicker, but I can't remember him ever putting a kick-off into the endzone. Isn't his leg a little weak for kick-offs. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think he'll be serviceable and he is definitely a reliable field goal kicker, which is an improvement.

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Skins consider bringing in Sauerbrun. he's a pro bowl quality punter. He may have some character issues but he's much better then what we have and how much problems can a punter cause in a locker room anyways...

Posted by: Rob | October 10, 2006 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Solution for the offense. Watch the video footage of opposing offenses going deep on our Cover 2 defense. I don't ever want the coaches to tell me again that they can't throw deep because the defenses are in cover 2. Watch the video of opposing offenses picking apart our cover 2 and do the same thing to them. Alright let's go beat up on Vince Young!!!

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Went to the game in NY - Was embarrassed to be a fan. We have two overpriced assistat coaches that can't get it done. And I don't care what Wilbon says about the see-saw effect in the NFC East. He wasn't saying that after the 0-4 preseason...remember the "We have nothing to worry about yet..." Article. And Joe...you are going to leave a bitter-taste in our mouths if the hogs don't start playing some smash-mouth football. In Portis you have one of the best backs in the league...and in Moss one of the leagues top-flight receivers. If Brunell can't get it done...find a Q that can.

ManBoobs - Out.

Posted by: ManBoobs | October 10, 2006 3:36 PM | Report abuse

You know L. Marshall does a fine job at middle linebacker, but antonio pierce really showed me why our defense was so good in 2004. Give me Ryan Clark, Antonio Pierce, plug in Mcintosh for Holdman, Matt Bowen, Smoot, and Walt Harris please. Thanks gwilliams.

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 3:41 PM | Report abuse

yes, he is clutch. it'd be one thing for someone like ola (who was there too for the competition) a foreigner to come in and not understand the gravity(sp?) of the situation and make the field goal under pressure but for him to do what he did last year takes "ice in his veins".

here's hoping it all works out for him and the skins.

good luck nicky!, i'll never forget that nc state kick!

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I never thought I would say this, but are Rumph and Wright really any better Ade Jimoh??

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jason
Have you called Nick yet and turned him on to this blog of yours - and Megskin?

Posted by: X.Hog | October 10, 2006 3:48 PM | Report abuse

When Nick the Kick misses a game winner (or multiple game winners) and can only kick off to the 20, I hope all you "what about Nick Novak" people stick by him. He's not that good. Probably better than Hall and his gimpy leg, but don't think Novak is going to be the season savior. Calling him "clutch?" I'll reserve judgment until I see him get it done.

Posted by: BooferSux | October 10, 2006 3:51 PM | Report abuse

When Nick the Kick misses a game winner (or multiple game winners) and can only kick off to the 20, I hope all you "what about Nick Novak" people stick by him. He's not that good. Probably better than Hall and his gimpy leg, but don't think Novak is going to be the season savior. Calling him "clutch?" I'll reserve judgment until I see him get it done.

Posted by: BooferSux | October 10, 2006 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I remember sitting here during preseason (they pay me to watch, that's my excuse. what's yours?)and saying, "Hall has dead leg. He has dead leg." It was tough to watch. Then he made a couple of field goals and I thought maybe all would be okay. My point is that it was obvious to me way back when and my medical degree is from the famed Shabingus School. I understand loyalty (it's a good thing!), but it seems that perhaps the team shouldn't be at this point.

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 3:52 PM | Report abuse

nWo 4 life!! It's just too sweeeeeeeeet!

Posted by: Chief Clancy Wiggum | October 10, 2006 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Can Novak really only boot it to the 20? I have forgotten what his kickoffs looked like last year.

Posted by: Posse Redux | October 10, 2006 4:01 PM | Report abuse

As I recall his kick-offs consistently landed between the 10-20 yardlines. Not good by NFL standards.

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Everybody loves Nicky. When is he first going to be available for public groping? Oops, I meant signing or whatever that thing is they do with the pen and balls.

Posted by: Megskin | October 10, 2006 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Is this official? redskins.com hasn't published a story yet.

The reason I ask is that I have a ceremonial crockpot I like to send to new 'Skins kickers. It is a lovely crockpot.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 10, 2006 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Let me be the first one to say it:

Nick Novak will go to many, many pro bowls as the kicker of the Washington Redskins and, eventually, will go to the Hall of Fame as one of the greatest kickers in NFL history.

You heard it here first.

And no, I'm not joking. For those unfamiliar with Novak, the guy is literally the most clutch kicker in college football history. I can't count how many times I watched the guy hit the clutch kick to win the game (I can think of 3 vs NC State alone). The Redskins need to give him a real shot, not just a couple games til Hall gets back.

We just signed the real deal ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: Barno | October 10, 2006 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I am concerned about the kickoffs. If we wanted a reliable kicker, John Hall barely passed the smell test. What we need in a replacement is someone who is both a) healthy and b) capable of consistently kicking the ball off well.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | October 10, 2006 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Novak is an upgrade. But my thoughts are running back to last year ... I think its this years problem. Last season the 'Skins beat the Boys in that great Monday night game by hitting 2 TDs late. This 'Skins team doesn't seem to realize that it was a fluke, that 13 points is a big deficit. They seem to believe that staying close means they'll pull it off in the end. And it doesn't work like that. The 5 straight wins, similar. I guess the Skins think they can dig themselves out of holes. Which may be true to a point, but it doesn't mean its OK to dig yourself into one before you rise to the occasion

Jason, you're around these folks. Does it seem like they need to have their backs against the wall before they focus their efforts, before they really get motivated? My experience, its the guys that work hard all the time that find something special when it counts.

Posted by: AL | October 10, 2006 4:28 PM | Report abuse

barno, OMG!!! what u smokin boy? he's okay. he's clutch but he can't kickoff. only to 10 (consistently) (from what i rember last year). but i'll take inside 10 and clutch fg kicker ne time. as long as the offense knows that they have to get to 25 to give him a good chance to make it.
and beyond 25(greater than 42 yarder) is just gravy.

what's interesting is that patsies were able to replace A. VinnyTerri? in a heartbeat. how???????? did they find a kicker that good so fast? ohh, this just in they have a good front office. :( and we have mr. bugeyed! aka mr. espn, mr. vinny!

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Umm if he's so good, why has he been out of football? I don't get it?

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2006 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Max, I don't know man. Bowen and Harris were hot garbage when they were one our team. Bowen got beat more of than Archuletta has.

This team misses Pierce, but that's only part of it. We need secondary depth, and when Springs misses time, Carlos has to be ready to step up.

Posted by: Bucktown | October 10, 2006 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Harris had some bad plays but overall he's average or slightly above average in the NFL. Rumph and Wright are CLEARLY well below average, and probably wouldn't even make the rosters of most NFL teams. Harris is a proven starter that plays year in and year out.

Posted by: Bucktown | October 10, 2006 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I like the Nick Pick for the same reasons I like the Golston/Montgomery picks. They aren't veteran washups from elsewhere. They can become the kind of Redskins that give the team some continuity (like Jansen or Samuels). They can develop not only skills as a Redskin, but also identity. [Bing! It JUST occured to me that maybe Doughty can be trained up to do some safety pass coverage in place of the absent Archuleta (who I still think should just be moved to linebacker).]
My question for today is whether "Jason's editor" really edits Jason's stuff. If so, then Jason seems very kind for taking it on the chin on her[?] (Cindy?) behalf. After several weeks of reading the name of the #1 current Jets (former Skins) receiver) in the way Jason spelled it this morning, Lavern-U-E-S, it took me a while hearing it to mentally respell it in my head. [Jason had another typo this morning ... pre-excused though ... what is a blog typo called? a typblogo?]

Posted by: dcsween | October 10, 2006 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I think the reason none of the NFL teams picked up Novak is because of his weak kick-offs.

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 4:57 PM | Report abuse

It takes 1-2 years for a CB to go from being trash to being treasure. Even Darrell Green had a rough year or two before he figured it out ... he made plays but also got burned a lot. About year 3, he kept making plays and stopped getting burned, then nobody bothered to throw it at him.

Rogers may not be DG, but he is in that early stage where you won't know if he's good or not. This time next year, he'll be most of what he'll always be.

But go back, Mayhew, Bailey, etc ... all struggled as interns, took a year or two to graduate.

Posted by: AL | October 10, 2006 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree deadskin. Blitzing often results in indecision, confusion, and ultimately turnovers by the opposing offense. I'm fine with giving up the big plays if we are at least doing so while we are trying to create opportunities for turnovers, holding penalties, sacks, etc. Since we're giving up the big plays anyway, we mine as well go down swinging as opposed to sitting on our hands.

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I disagree about Rumph and Wright being "clearly below average." I think both are servicable. The one who has been getting BURNED and burned on big plays is Carlos Rogers. With or without Springs, teams are STILL going to keep picking on Rogers. Is Rogers really that much of a liability or is it that Grilliams has Rogers covering more territory than he should?

Posted by: dcsween | October 10, 2006 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't know dcsween. Rogers is a great #2 CB, but I'm not sure he's ready to shut down #1 WRs. On the other hand he has put himself in position for several interceptions this year, but just hasn't been able to tuck it in. He needs to work on his hands. A lot of people said C. Bailey was crap because he gave up some big plays, but if you make big plays too, it kind of balances it out. C. Rogers just isn't making those big plays yet. I'm not giving up on Rogers though. He usually isn't 5-10 steps behind the receiver like Rumph and Wright.

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2006 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Long time reader of the blog but first time poster... Just wanted to say hell yea!!! About time they brought back Novak. And way past time they cut this failed John Hall experiment off.

Posted by: ERock | October 10, 2006 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Hall goes to IR...Howard is reporting...

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 5:28 PM | Report abuse

dcsween it's a blog. We all are having fun here. And back off Cindy. I have a blog crush on her as well.

Posted by: jm220 | October 10, 2006 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Dcsween, we don't edit the blog. We like the immediacy of the postings and don't correct after the fact because readers would be saying, "Didn't it say this before it said that?" We've had some issues with that on chats. Certainly, as editors, though, we cringe at times.
And we would delete a posting that was profane or otherwise objectionable.

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 5:43 PM | Report abuse

deadskin, you are dead on about blitzing. If the "drop back and cover" plan is still giving up big plays, they might as well roll the dice with the blitz and see what happens. If we're going to get burned, let's go down swinging.

But, deadskin, could we tone down the couch and cheeks rhetoric? Thanks, my man.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 10, 2006 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of objectionable entries, Joe in Raleigh has a point. I'm sorry that one had to go, Deadskin. You had a good point...

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 6:02 PM | Report abuse

A little out of topic .. english is not my first language so can somebody explains to me what Springs meant when he said "you're gonna have to either supply the foot or the ass" when talking about C. Rogers ? Thanks in advance !!

Posted by: Tooloe | October 10, 2006 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Tooloe that simply mean you are either giving the beat down (foot) or taking the beat down (ass)

Posted by: jm220 | October 10, 2006 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Tooloe it simply means you are giving the beat down (foot) or taking the beat down (ass)

Posted by: jm220 | October 10, 2006 6:31 PM | Report abuse

did i get pulled again?

cindy...i dont mind if you strip out the comments that need to be censored but you could keep the rest of it...as you said i made valid points...and the nation needs to hear them!!! any chance of reposting them with the objectionable comments removed?

ill try to keep it clean...really i didnt think they were that bad...you should hear me when im not holding back! ;)

Posted by: deadskin | October 10, 2006 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Deadskin, you scare me! Please, please always hold back here! There are children in the nation. I'll see if I can edit the entry...but that would involve, like, work. Sigh.

Posted by: Jason's editor | October 10, 2006 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Barno, Nick's first was on a Thurs/ESPN against Ga Tech Frig's first year Terp D got the ball back and Nick nailed one from the 40's. I remember breaking everything in sight prior to that point. I don't remember deep kickoffs though , when he got to the NFL.

As for CB's, Ade is not playing because he's balls out on coverage for sp teams, but lacks cover skills on D except in the nickel.

D Hall from Va Tech has turned into a decent shut down for the Falcons, not sure what to say about PacMan from WVA and now playing for Tenn, although he appears to be a knucklehead off the field. These two were in Roger's class of the draft.

Posted by: coolio | October 10, 2006 6:48 PM | Report abuse

oh...children...right...wasnt thinking...

please post both of them with the comments stipped out...that is if you have time to do some work! ;)

Posted by: deadskin | October 10, 2006 7:00 PM | Report abuse

hall was not in rogers class. he was either the year before or 2 years before. the rogers class was:

pacman at 6
antrel rolle to the cards at 8
rogers at 9

later on
the kid from clemson went 23rd i think
marlin jackson of michigan at like 28 to the colts

if only shawne chose someone other than the postons as his representation, then mr merriman would be playing in his hometown.

i dont get all the rumph bashing. he has been more solid than rogers. rogers has been beat more than any of the trio. wright seems to get beat the worst, but rogers the most often. i understand balls will be caught in this league, but rogers and wright play with so much cushion for fear of getting beat deep, they get killed on the underneath stuff causing taylor and archuleta to be chasing rather than being able to make plays.

Posted by: jperkmd82 | October 10, 2006 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I remember reading that Garnell Wilds was hurt in the preseason...but I wonder it he has healed.....just a thought...

Posted by: Lisa | October 10, 2006 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Please use a spell checker, Jason.

Posted by: Elmer Wright | October 10, 2006 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Please don't use spell checker J-La. This is a blog, not a newspaper column. We want a stream of consciousness and speedy insights, not the highly edited stuff.

Tahnks!

Posted by: Josh in Seattle | October 10, 2006 8:18 PM | Report abuse

agreed on rodgers. also rumph seems to be playing the best of them all (like someone else pointed out).

it's not guaranteed that rodgers gets the #1 recvr. he just plays one side (right) of the field.

but if lito shephard can make it in this league i'm sure he'll(rodgers) be fine next year. i rember smoot having a so so year after a good rookie season but came back in his third season better than ever. probly a sohpmore jinx(?) for rodgers.

defense will be much better in the second half. imoh. where there's good coaching...hey, maybe they'll go to 3-4...since carter was a LB and maybe the 49ers knew what they were talking about...i have no idea what changing schemes involves in midseason but gregg's said that he used to employ those (3-4) last year and the year when he had too many LB's...

let's all pray for springs health this week in practice...:) (as st. joe would say)

:)@"tahnks"... cute

peace! out!

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2006 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Archuletta fitted for some custom cleets in time for the Indy game, which I think is on turf. Something with like two or three extra inches of basketball foam rubber on the bottom. And the rubber "helmet topper" they used to issue to avoid concussions, the kind that matches the color of the helmet. I'm not worried about his head really, I want him to look and feel more imposing out there...maybe he could dump his junior high shoulder pads and pick up something a little wider too..I don't know...nothing too Halloweenish, functional and everything I mean....just a little mental imagery boost out there.

Posted by: Titan-ic | October 10, 2006 10:43 PM | Report abuse


Can we get some makeup on Al Saunders before he does the Monday/Tuesday game review on Comcast? Maybe try lighting his "good side"?

Luckily he pa(trolls) the dim-dark sky booth and not the sidelines.

Posted by: Not-Ready-For-HDTV | October 10, 2006 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again, trying to stir up another controversy just like you guys always do.

Mike Sellers was no madder than any other redskins after sunday's loss, but la canfora tries to spin it into a controversy as always. And then he says that the only momentum the redskins have had since gibbs got here was the 6 game win streak in december and january of last season. What bs! what about the 3-0 start at the beginning of last season or the past few weeks before the Giants game? I guess La Canfora's definition of "momentum" is is a 4 game win streak or more, so those don't qualify.

Here's some advice: Report the facts about the team, don't opine. Leave the opinions about the team to Wilbon and Tony.

Posted by: STOP EDITORIALIZING LA CANFORA | October 10, 2006 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey "STOP...", chill dude.

The Mike Sellers article was spot on. Sellers was probably the only guy willing to go on the record with it, but I'll bet Jason got a general vibe in the locker room from other players to corroborate the story.

You can pick on the "momentum" word, but the gist of that section was that the 'Skins have been horribly inconsistent in the Gibbs II era. With the exception of the playoff push last year, that's also totally spot on. Up one week, down the next. That really is the story of this team throughout Gibbs Part Deux. Now, if they mount another big playoff push this year, the story of this team accurately becomes more of a "comeback kids" angle (dig a grave early, climb out of it late). At that time, I'll bet dollars to donuts that Jason writes a story documenting why the team starts slow (probably blaming St. Joe's preseason approach) and how they dig themselves out of it (the classic "character guy" statement from St. Joe, most likely)

Regardless, save your frustration for the team, not the reporters covering it. Jason's upstairs in the box eating nachos, not downstairs on the field missing tackles and running poor routes and getting frustrated with lack of playing time. It's certainly not because of him that the team is below .500.

Finally, for all you spelling nitpickers, it's a bloody blog. Get over it. Jason's still the only person here with access to the team. His spelling may not be perfect, but he's the only one here who saw Nick Novak walk in the building today, he's the only one here who talked to Mike Sellers, and he's the only one who gets to spend any time trying to get St. Joe to answer a question in a straightforward manner.

You would think people would be grateful. In the good ol' days, you'd have to wait until Wednesday morning to even find out that Novak was in the building. Now, you find out the second Jason sees him walk through the door. He's our guy unless you whiners want to go hang out in Ashburn and blog on your own...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 11, 2006 12:45 AM | Report abuse

John Hall should never show his face in this city again. What a bum, we pay him millions to sit around and watch practice and games, and the idiot still isn't healthy. I'm tired of Gibbs being so loyal to washed up veterans, he (Gibbs) is beginning to bring the team down by being so damn conservative.

Posted by: redskins32 | October 11, 2006 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Stop Ed,

It's not really much of a stretch. Here's a quote:

"It's very frustrating when you stand there watching," Sellers said. "It's frustrating to be on the bench when you want to be out there when certain people take you out of certain formations. I'm just one of those guys who wants to get on the field as much as possible, and whenever possible, and it just didn't seem to work out for us. So it was frustrating, that's all."

See so it's not really editorializing.

Here is another quote. This one's from a movie but may be sage advice for you:

"Why don't you stop talking for a while Champ."


Posted by: Skinz | October 11, 2006 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Sorry about the typo comment. Though I didn't explain it very well, my comment wasn't really saying there was a typo ... it was just asking "Jason's editor" what he/she does (and if he/she works for the WaPo or whether that is just a name, like BOOFER). If he/she really edited, he/she might have been tempted to correct the spelling of Lavernues Coles to something like Laverneus, which is how his name is pronounced. For all the time he was here, I never understood how I was supposed to figure out to pronounce his name "Lavern-ee-us" when it was spelled "Lavern-U-EE-S". I didn't mean to be picking on typos.

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2006 9:46 AM | Report abuse

JMan, will there be a press conference today announcing the addition of #3?

Also, anything to Duckett being traded or whatever, and picking up another D lineman or cb?

#95 has a nagging calf, is he pracicing today?

I never saw #45 open, but I know Mark never hesitated last year in the RZ finding him. I'm wondering if he is feeling pressure to hit Cooley. #45 is going to get single coverage in the flat because everyone is watching CP, Cooley, and Santana.

Posted by: coolio | October 11, 2006 10:06 AM | Report abuse

JMan, we are carrying John Eubanks, a rookie out of So Miss, on the P Squad. Any thoughts by the Grills(Coach Willy) to giving him a bite of the apple?

Posted by: coolio | October 11, 2006 10:16 AM | Report abuse

win or lose here's the situmation:

1. saunders doesn't like brunell (as his qb)
2. gibbs likes brunell (for the simple reason that he is the only qb that can win NOW thus mortgaging the future by not playing campbell at least a little bit)
3. saunders may not even like campbell but at least with him he can open up his playbook completely unlike with brunell he had to take a lot of the stuff out (source: washpost, quotes after losing the second game of the season)
4. saunders likes portis but not his baggage(taking himself out whenever he wants to)
5. sellers was refering to the fact that skins didn't run as much
6. saunders isn't being allowed to call the whole game.
7. when they're inside 35 yardline gibbs essentially takes over the play calling...(source: gibbs, gibbs monday presser)

Posted by: dealer | October 11, 2006 10:22 AM | Report abuse

when they're inside 35 yardline gibbs essentially takes over the play calling

I really hope that's not true.

Posted by: Megskin | October 11, 2006 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Just heard the sound clip. It is sounds true to me.....

Posted by: A Dog | October 11, 2006 10:30 AM | Report abuse

That's cutting Saunder's legs out from under him! If I were him, I'd be pretty insulted.

Posted by: Megskin | October 11, 2006 10:37 AM | Report abuse

At least John Hall is on the IR, so we don't have to worry about him coming back for late seasons heroics.......

Posted by: A Dog | October 11, 2006 10:37 AM | Report abuse

It Gibbs said something to effect that once inside the 35 yard line he and Saunders discuss the playcalling.

Maybe Danny isn't the one that needs the old empower and get out of the way speech.

Posted by: Skinz | October 11, 2006 10:38 AM | Report abuse

So, who's to blame for that 3rd and 1 pass?

Posted by: A Dog | October 11, 2006 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Good move on signing Nick...two questions..

1) Why can't the skins just cut Hall, instead of putting him on IR year after year...

2) That 3rd and short play that Sellers was taken out of, why not just stick him and Duckett in there and let T.J. run straight ahead...i know there are some concerns about TJ knowing the playbook, but he should be able to at least get 1 yd, right?

Posted by: DC Luv | October 11, 2006 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, that's spot on. Bold it up and let's hear it again:

Skinz: Maybe Danny isn't the one that needs the old empower and get out of the way speech.

Posted by: Megskin | October 11, 2006 10:44 AM | Report abuse

maybe just maybe it was danny's idea to hire saunders..."joe, listen, i'm worried about your health why don't we hire say an old friend of yours, saunders to take over the offense and you can concentrate on the team as a whole and on your gm duties..."

i listen to 980 and coach thompson (he's gotten much better over the years btw on radio) said from the begning that he didn't believe that gibbs, a hof-er would give up what put him in hof...too much ego involved he said. and as a diehard skins fan, i discounted what he said but after listening to gibbs presser on monday i think he was right.

yep, true...cutting legs from under him! what's joe afraid of? :) that he's going to call a flee flicker? or an "onside punt" on 3rd and 1? inn there a saying "dance with the girl that brung you"...well if saunders can take you to 35 then stick with the man...control freak! :) (just kidding)

Posted by: dealer | October 11, 2006 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Remind me: after the multiple, consecutive offensive penalties when Brunell lost his cool about the plays coming in too late, were we inside the 30-yard line (i.e., were Gibbs and Saunders discussing the playcalling)?

Regardless, that seemed like the pivotal point where the offense lost any steam that it was going to bring to the game.

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2006 10:54 AM | Report abuse

A-Dog,

Saunders said in a TV interview that they had run on 3 and 1 all six times this year and had decided last friday to pass on the first 3 and 1.

He said, and i'm paraphrasing, that they ran a play that was supposed to go to Sellers but Brunell threw to Cooley. That obviously was contradicted by JLa's article today (Sellers stated he was on the sideline) so I don't know what to think.

Posted by: Skinz | October 11, 2006 11:00 AM | Report abuse

i.e., were Gibbs and Saunders discussing the playcalling)?

OMFG! Argh! I'm banging my head on the keyboard. No wonder Brunell was ticked off.

Let Saunders call the #$@!ing plays!

Posted by: Megskin | October 11, 2006 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Here's an idea: let's go back to what Gibbs did on the last superbowl run.

Let Brunell go to the line, look over the defense and call the damn play. Gibbs and Saunders can argue about it until he gets down to the 35, then they can send in the play. Brunell can then gleefully ignore them and go the rest of the way for the score while they squabble and bicker like a bunch of old hens over the radio.


Whatever happened to that spiffy offense that scored 30+ points with only a 22 minute time of possession per game? Someone lose the playbook?

Posted by: Megskin | October 11, 2006 11:09 AM | Report abuse

how the heck do you decide on FRIDAY that you're going to pass on 3rd and 1 on SUNDAY!!!!!

what about the flow of the game? "hello! you play to win the game!"

and even if the defense knows you're going to run...1. they don't know where you're going to run. 2. who's going to run 3. you have CP!!!! 4. and sellers!!! c'mon!

rember guys cp or sellers dropped a sure 1st down and more near their 20-30..."it's a game of inches"...

ha ha love playing WMOC! anyways...we'll be fine. we have a really good team. i hope gibbs figures out what to do while the game's going on. maybe we could give him an ipod or portable ps2...

Posted by: dealer | October 11, 2006 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Megskin that was the sound bite of Coach Joe on 980 John T show yesterday. (thank goodness for computers so I can listen to it lol)

Posted by: jm220 | October 11, 2006 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Uggh, I gotta headache now.

Posted by: Megskin | October 11, 2006 11:21 AM | Report abuse

They also reported (John T show) that Brunell has started 31 games for the Skins. 16 out of those 31 games he has passed for less than 100 yards. If this is true. How can anyone say his time is over?

Posted by: jm220 | October 11, 2006 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Just read the article Skinz, Thanks.

Somebody is not telling the truth. And by Sellers emotions, I say it was Saunders. I didn't tape the game, so I will never know who the personel was at the time. But, Sellers has no reason to lie, I don't think he is even making a Mil for the year.

Something is smelling fishy.....

Posted by: A Dog | October 11, 2006 11:26 AM | Report abuse

It should read. How can anyone say his time is not over? Sorry don't want anyone to jump on me about that. lol

Posted by: jm220 | October 11, 2006 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I knew there was a reason why I refer to the Redskins as the 'Coronary Kids', these days....

Posted by: FlimFlam | October 11, 2006 11:28 AM | Report abuse

How can anyone say his time is over?

This is Gibb's thinking.

Posted by: Megskin | October 11, 2006 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Hello again.
I think certain people are going crazy on this playcalling thing.
Gibbs said all along he would have a say in key situations, in certain areas on the field, when to run or pass, or kick or go for it.
He's on the headset in communication with Saunders the entire game, like any head coach would be. They're not ordering pizza, you know.
With the game on the line of course Gibbs will be involved. He is the head coach, and, like anyone in that role, can veto play, make a suggestion, call a formation.
That's still his job.
That's the deal they had going in and a situation they both said repeatedly in the preseason they were comfortable with.
There are a lot of people out there in the "media" who have never spent a day at Redskins Park who are held to no level of accountablility and can say what they like. And I'm all for it - freedom of speech, rock on - but sometimes the speculation gets a little out of control.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | October 11, 2006 11:41 AM | Report abuse

thought you might want to know what nicky did yesterday:

he was 100% on fg's and he kicked off to goaline and to 6.

"...Jose Cortez did excellent. He put most of them in the end zone. He's got a very strong leg.

Nick Novak hit one to the goal line and one to the six-yard line. Peterson was better than anticipated on kickoffs. He showed pretty good leg so he did a pretty good job on kickoffs.
..."

"
We signed Nick Novak because his kickoffs were much improved over last year and his field goals were the most consistent, plus just the fact that he won a game for us in overtime last year against Seattle was also a major factor.
"
source: vinny, redskins.com

Posted by: dealer | October 11, 2006 11:43 AM | Report abuse

JCL you got to get the real information about Campbell. What do they really think of him? If we go down the next two game they should start working him in.

Posted by: jm220 | October 11, 2006 11:43 AM | Report abuse

OUCH! jLaC, that's a bit harsh. john was speaking from the point of view of a coach. and i thought it was a good insight on what goes on with a HOF-er coach as Coach T is. (what makes a hof-er coach...insight you can't provide).

and the fact that joe said that he gets in there when they cross 35 (no matter what time of the game) is telling a lot. at this point we don't need your interpretation. he said what he said. you can't be any more clear than what he said.

and also sometimes you could be in to deep (as you are) to see our (average joe's) point of view as well. and sometimes we have a better view than you. keyword being sometimes.

Posted by: dealer | October 11, 2006 11:52 AM | Report abuse

(Not my) Dealer has it right. It came straight from the Horses Mouth. And so did it when Saunders said he called a run to Sellers on 3rd and 1.

Posted by: A Dog | October 11, 2006 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to have to disagree with you JLa. I think most peoples understand was that he was there for 4th down calls and things of that nature. Obviously being the head coach he can do whatever he wants and it really doesn't matter what "we" though provided he and Saunders had the understanding. However,

there are many sayings about this and the one that is most fitting in this situation is:

Too many chiefs and not enough indians.

Posted by: Skinz | October 11, 2006 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember the excessive number of kicks that Novak had blocked last year??? Hopefully they address this with him before an opponent returns one.

Posted by: Hogwild | October 11, 2006 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Sweet! Now we know Gibbs patience lasts for 3 years. Only one more year left of watching Brunnell's skills fade into the sunset.

Posted by: Realist | October 11, 2006 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm with JLaC on this one... I doubt Joe said anything that's new outside that locker room, and just because people outside it didn't get it doesn't mean there's some huge issue.

And Dealer, what sport was Thompson a HOF coach for? oh yea, it wasn't pigskin...

Posted by: Gregarious | October 11, 2006 1:24 PM | Report abuse

G'ous, huh? i'm sorry i don't know what you're asking/saying/implying. honestly i'm not a good writer as you can tell so i may not have gotten the point that i wanted to get across across. and i apologize.

yes, both coaches are hof coaches. a very rare accomplishment. one in football and the other in basketball. football is played by humans(mostly male except in case of terry glen) and so is basketball. coach T had 3 assistants for 11 players. coach G has 22 assistants for 53 players. both won chamionships in their particular sport. coach T won 1 and coach G won 3. coach T answered to AD/president coach G answered to owner. both sports have rules and both coaches followed those rules.

i can't think of anymore obvious similarities and differences. ohh yeah! coach T is black and coach G is white. duh!

sorry.

fyi, beef o brady's in ashburn on fridays (b. mitch does his show there from 12-3)

Posted by: dealer | October 11, 2006 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Hi Dealer, not meaning to sound like I'm betraying my blog name! I didn't think the comparison was good because of the differences of the sports. Coach John has a pretty good eye, but when it comes to football his opinion is no more or less valid than JlaC's. Now if it was another HoF football coach that was used in the comparison, I probably would have kept my big fat mouth shut:)

Posted by: Gregarious | October 11, 2006 2:22 PM | Report abuse

G'ous, if coacht T had said "i think gibbs should employ run and shoot or 3-4 defense or he should use portis as a WR or brunell should not be the qb" or any of x's and o's stuff.

then in my humble opinion i would've said what you said. but he is talking from a good and proven leader's point of view (in american sports). two leaders both of them stubborn and human nature to have an ego about their acomplishments.

i would've been just as excited about this season if they hadn't brought al saunders but i thought maybe joe just can't do it anymore because of his health. to have a check system during the game with a 35 second clock against a team that has faultered with hurry up offenses(in 3 consecutive games)...is just insane. why bring him here if not for inside 35? what was joe's offense lacking? an option play? flee flicker? double reverse? (none of which has worked so far).

just frustrated and too bad we'll have to wait for 2 weeks to get rid of this bad taste in our mouths....

Posted by: dealer | October 11, 2006 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys, I have no idea where the John Thompson stuff comes from.
I'm talking about their esteemed morning crew that I heard this morning.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | October 11, 2006 3:52 PM | Report abuse

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