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Hackett agrees to offer -- from Carolina

Free agent wide receiver D.J. Hackett won't be joining the Redskins. Hackett, who held a contract offer from the Redskins, reportedly agreed to a two-year, $3.5-million contract with the Carolina Panthers.
Washington's offer wasn't close to what Hackett received from the Panthers, a league source said, and now the Redskins are waiting for wide receiver Reche Caldwell to decide on their offer to him. Caldwell still is considering his options, agent Tony Fleming said.
-- Jason Reid

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O'First!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm with brownwood, let's go after Julius Peppers. He would be worth this years 1st rounder, plus a little more than a ham sandwich. Guy's a beast.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 12:47 PM

"Peppers is entering the final year of his rookie contract, but with a high cap number. The Panthers are believed to be unwilling to extend the deal with a Freeney-esque pay day ($12 million per year and $30 million guaranteed), but the Panthers likewise deny that Peppers is on the block."

Let's not make a run at Peppers. Overpaying for "superstars" hasn't worked out well for the Redskins in the past, and Peppers would be no exception, based on his most recent performance. Considering the many needs of the team, Peppers is a salary cap and draft pick hit that the Skins cannot afford, this year or anytime soon.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Did the Redskins offer veteran minimum plus a mystery meat sandwich to Hackett?

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like the Panthers offered a $2 million signing bonus and the league minimum to Hackett. That's a lot of sandwiches. Probably shrimp salad.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm with O'Tafka on Peppers. Putting all your salary cap eggs in one basket is too risky.

And, I'm with St. Patrick. Putting all your Guinness in one mug is several mugs too few.

--Talent O'Valuator

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Ridiculous. If he plays 16 games in two years for Carolina they steal got a good deal. Stupid not to sign him.

Posted by: kreitman4 | March 17, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I wish I was at home so I could pull a McTube.

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | March 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell is "considering his options?" What are they? Play for the Redskins or bus tables in LaVar's restaurant? Is LaVar offering a signing bonus?

Let's all head out to LaVar's for a Guinness!

--Talent O'Valuator

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Too many good receivers in the draft to overpay for often injured marginal receiver. I am impressed with the tight wallet so far, maybe they did learn something over the last 4 years.

Posted by: jayandcat | March 17, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying overpay for him contact wise, but I would definitley make a trade that enables us to essentially draft him this year. He is already better than anyone in the draft, lets take him. For the right money of course, but he would be worth a reasonably hefty contract.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 12:58 PM

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying overpay for him contact wise, but I would definitley make a trade that enables us to essentially draft him this year. He is already better than anyone in the draft, lets take him. For the right money of course, but he would be worth a reasonably hefty contract.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 12:58 PM


Julius Peppers that is......

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Stupid not to sign him.

Posted by: kreitman4 | March 17, 2008 01:00 PM

Three teams that need receivers -- Tampa, Seattle, and Washington -- all disagree with you. What do you know that they don't?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I am a little uneasy about losing Hackett,

Posted by: mshawk11 | March 17, 2008 12:48 PM

why? He wasn't all that good. Just a little better than B Lloyd. But Not as good as Gardner, Rod to be honest wit ya...

Now, if you wanna be mad, be mad we didn't go after Tab Perry.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2008 01:00 PM

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

What about Darrel Jackson?
He knows the Seattle offense too.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | March 17, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the scoop, although it is an hour late and every other media outlet already reported it.

Posted by: kmdp4 | March 17, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Freeney's contract (6/$72 million) set the bar so high that it is unlikely any "name" DE will ever have an affordable price again. It's the same problem with QBs and CBs. The only way to get a "superstar" is to get lucky and draft one.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Damm, bad move skins. 3.5 mil you gave loyd 10mil

Posted by: poolman | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Damm, bad move skins. 3.5 mil you gave loyd 10mil

Posted by: poolman | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Damm, bad move skins. 3.5 mil you gave loyd 10mil

Posted by: poolman | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Damm, bad move skins. 3.5 mil you gave loyd 10mil

Posted by: poolman | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Damm, bad move skins. 3.5 mil you gave loyd 10mil

Posted by: poolman | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Damm, bad move skins. 3.5 mil you gave loyd 10mil

Posted by: poolman | March 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Damm, bad move skins. 3.5 mil you gave loyd 10mil

Posted by: poolman | March 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking Peppers has lost his edge and is on a slide down the downside of his career. I'm thinking back to the game after Thanksgiving in 2006. Jansen completely owned Peppers.

Now lets go trade us for some Anquan Bolden!

Posted by: dcsween | March 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I am a little upset they could not get this deal done. I agree with the reserved ways this offseason but this seemed like a no brainer. When healthy is has performed. He is tall which we need and he knows the west coast system which is a big plus. Shocked they did not push a little harder. Now we might waste a 1 rounder on a WR instead of a DL.

Posted by: meisterthedog | March 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Not mad about Hackett...I just want Mix to get a look. It's not like he has to be the #1 or anything. How sorry can a 6'5" 230lb. reciever be? (dare I ask)

Posted by: rickyroge | March 17, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

The Skins also need to start "selling" Nemo Broughton. With Brunell in New Orleans, that's only one free agent signed elsewhere. We need more of our free agents to sign elsewhere in order to get a compensatory late round pick in 2009. ;)

Posted by: dcsween | March 17, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey Pooley - when's that big trade or whatever with the Seahawks going to happen?

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I am a little upset they could not get this deal done. I agree with the reserved ways this offseason but this seemed like a no brainer. When healthy is has performed. He is tall which we need and he knows the west coast system which is a big plus. Shocked they did not push a little harder. Now we might waste a 1 rounder on a WR instead of a DL.

Posted by: meisterthedog | March 17, 2008 01:09 PM

Wholeheartedly agree. Had Hackett on my fantasy team team at the end of the season. When healthy he is very good.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Three teams that need receivers -- Tampa, Seattle, and Washington -- all disagree with you. What do you know that they don't?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 01:05 PM

Actually, all 3 brought him in for visits. All 3 may have offered him a contract as well. He chose Carolina. As far as I see it, they got a great deal out of it. Tons of upside, and if he doesn't work out, you don't lose much at all. Solid play by the Panthers.

And as far as the Brandon Lloyd reference, even if we rewound the clock and had the opportunity to sign Lloyd to THIS contract, I'd take my chances. It's not like they gave Hackett $30 mill and a $10 mill signing bonus.

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for Fabini to sign with the Dolphins. That should get us a really low compensatory pick.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

It's a new day poolman!!! I heard B Mitch say since we gave Chad Morton 3 million dollars, we should have given Cartwright 2 million. Morton was here like 5 years ago. We gotta get smart sometimes. Now if they don't address the WR position...well that's another story.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I haven't looked at the draft pick trade chart (the one Jimmy Johnson gets all this credit for), but I doubt someone would trade a 2 and 3 in the same draft for the 21st pick. Maybe if it's higher in the order, but doubtful at 21. But then again, Dallas got a one and couple other picks from the Browns last year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 17, 2008 11:50 AM

I just looked at one of those charts and you're way wrong:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html

Redskins pick #21 is worth 720 points. The ninth pick in the second round is worth 490 and the ninth pick in the third round is worth 225 -- together they're worth 715. So, there's plenty of scope for trading a first for a second and a third. Most important determinant will be who's left on the board at #21 and whether there are two or more teams interested in someone.

Today, though, the first round pick is Guinness, and no one will trade out of it for a Coors light plus a Michelob.

--Talent_O'Valuator

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

When healthy

Thats the perverbial elephant in the room. He's been in the NFL for 3 years and has YET to 'be healthy' for an entire year. He played 6 games last year. 6. Lets say he does the same thing this year, how much good does that do for the team?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

DJ Hackett = Larry Hughes

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Had Hackett on my fantasy team team at the end of the season.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 01:12 PM

Wow, now that settles it -- we really missed out. Who else was on your fantasy team? Can we bring them in? It was bad enough when we were going after Mr. Snyder's fantasy team.

I have Foamy Guinness on my fantasy team today, and have drafted him several time. Dude delivers every time.

--talent_o'valuator

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JustMe | March 17, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

So Hackett, who at best could be described as 'injury-prone' went for the MOST money, which turned out not to be the Redskins and people are miffed about this?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm more interested in Darrell Jackson than I am in Hackett. he should be pretty cheap and would be much more reliable. In any case, we do need to draft a WR, whether for this year or next.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | March 17, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The best chance of trading down probably remains with a high-pick team like Atlanta trying to get back in the 1st round to get a QB like Brohm if they don't take Ryan with the 3rd pick. Similar to what Cleveland did last year.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm not too excited about signing any receiver who got cut by the 49ers. Didn't Brandon Lloyd make their squad?

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

What's up with all the long faces regarding Hackett? It looks like he was going for relatively cheap though. Oh well. New day, new ideas going on with the FO these days. Wouldn't even give 3.5 over two years? I'm impressed.

Draft a WR.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 17, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Darrel Jackson

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Let me try that again.

Darrel Jackson

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Had Hackett on my fantasy team team at the end of the season.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 01:12 PM

Wow, now that settles it -- we really missed out. Who else was on your fantasy team? Can we bring them in? It was bad enough when we were going after Mr. Snyder's fantasy team.

I have Foamy Guinness on my fantasy team today, and have drafted him several time. Dude delivers every time.

--talent_o'valuator

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 01:24 PM

Roethlisberger, Tomlinson, Ryan Grant, Roy Williams, Hackett, Cooley, Elam.
Yes, let's try to pick all of them up. No matter what the cost. Especially Cooley; #21 on your pro bowl roster. They are all studs who took me to the FF Superbowl. You really are ovulating aren't you?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Nevermind. (And no, I am not drinking Guinness yet.)

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I am not too sad about Hacket...Lets face it, Coach Zorn knew exactly what he was getting with him...maybe HE was the one that told Vinny about how much he should offer for him. Also, I didnt like how he was so excited about going to join Delhome in Carolina...I guess he didnt think much of our own Jason Campbell. Like I said, I am ok with the move. I can see going for a big fish at WR through trade(reason for them restructuring contracts)or get a pretty good one in the draft.

Posted by: eauzmendi | March 17, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm not looking at a draft value chart, but i think this would be fair:

ATL gets our 21st and our 3rd
We get ATLs 2nd, ATLs 3rd and 4th

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | March 17, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Atlanta has at least two 2nd-round picks this year to play with. If they swing the D'angelo Hall deal, they might have three picks in the 2nd round to deal.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I am really bummed about missing out on D.J.

If there is one thing the skins have it's recievers that stay healthy. In fact the other recievers stay so healthy that it is a no brainer to take a risk on him since he never plays.

Posted by: sams3 | March 17, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

If you read Hackett's statements he wanted to go to the Panthers.

Posted by: kmdp4 | March 17, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Seth,

How about we just give Atl. our 1st and take there 2nd and 3rd.

Posted by: kmdp4 | March 17, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong about Hackett, I am disappointed that they could not get him for as cheap as they would have liked. I'm not MAD that they didn't make a bigger offer....pretty happy that the FO is still being smart with the money. Just would have been nice to get him and lessen/eliminate the need to draft a WR.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

good point, eau, I mean, if Zorn wasn't exactly beating down doors for the Redskins to sign this cat, what does that tell you? Zorn has seen first hand how this guy goes about things, and interest in him was luke-warm at best.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

SETH.LEMASTER

If I'm reading the chart right, looks like the skins could get Atlant's first secound round pick, their third, and their sixth round in this year's draft for the 1st pick.

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 17, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather take a "risk" on an injury-prone receiver who can actually play than take a healthy guy who struggles to make the bench. But hey, that's just me.

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I curse you Gods of FA.

We need you Hach-whatever!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mul | March 17, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

km, I agree regarding the proposed trade with Atl. Why not keep our third, and they keep their fourth, and we just give up #21, and they give up a 2nd and 3rd.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I never claimed to want a healthy guy who struggles to make the bench.

I want them to swing a trade for a big name guy like Johnson or Boldin.

Posted by: sams3 | March 17, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I like how no one knew who Mix was until he recovered that fumble... now we all sweat him. I know I do.

-O'Dorf

Posted by: Dorf | March 17, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Right now the trouble is who to draft and who to sign in FA.

As we bring new players in the door to add depth and youth, the next problem will be who to cut to make room on the roster. These cuts will be tough choices since we may have to cut proven veterans to allow room for new blood. Younger plays will make more mistakes, which usually cost you in the NFL.

So, its a delicate balance...huh?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | March 17, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

psp, how did Andre Johnson do his rookie year? How about Gonzalez from the Colts? Not EVERY rookie is a flop.

For that matter, Rod Gardner had a good rookie year if I recall correctly.

So, lets say the Skins signed Hackett, and he plays 6 games. They're NO BETTER off this year than they were last year as far as receivers go. The objective is to make forward progress.

I'd rather take a risk on a guy who has upside, and is hungry, versus a guy looking for the MOST money, and who might only play 6 games, similar to last year.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I like how no one knew who Mix was until he recovered that fumble... now we all sweat him. I know I do.

-O'Dorf

Posted by: Dorf | March 17, 2008 01:50 PM

The day they picked him up somebody on here was ready to run out and buy his jersey right away......might have been the talent ovaluator, but I don't feel like looking that far back.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 17, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

If Vinny is trying to keep the WR receiver budget cheap this year, it could be because the combined salaries of Moss and Randle El are about $6.5 million in 2008, but jump to $12.8 million in 2009.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I know I for one was very excited about him the day they got him. I remember atleast a few felt that way.

Posted by: sams3 | March 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

They ought to give Lorenzo Alexander a shot at WR.

Anyone drunk yet? kost?

--PaddyDiddy

Posted by: PDiddy | March 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Kost has been missing since about Thursday. They must have St. Patrick's Week in Australia.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

sams, that's true, you didn't. But people are going to applaud the FO for not spending any money, not just big money, but any money whatsoever. This was very little money to spend on a talented guy who could pay big dividends for the Panthers. Even if he doesn't pan out, they haven't lost much. It's low risk, high reward. These are the types of deals that I would like to see us make.

That said, he did CHOOSE the panthers over us, so there's not much we can say about losing him. However, I kind of get the feeling that the FO is sending the wrong message out to FAs. Kind of like "we don't really need you, or really want you all that much, but I guess if nobody else takes you, we'll give you a shot." That's the vibe I get from reading Vinny/Zorn/Snyder/FO comments. We really have seemed to pull a 180 in terms of pursuit.

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Kost's last comment was something like "I've got four 6-packs to get through this evening". Scary.

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm more interested in Darrell Jackson than I am in Hackett. he should be pretty cheap and would be much more reliable. In any case, we do need to draft a WR, whether for this year or next.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | March 17, 2008 01:27 PM

Darrell Jackson could replace Keenan McCardell (as the effective veteran unloved by the team that made him famous).

Posted by: dcsween | March 17, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

PaddyDiddy,

I was telling Nate O' the Pdx that I have a west coast road trip with my brother in July. Anchorage to Colorado Springs with a stop in Portland to visit my cousins. Seattle is on the way. Dorf's Left Coast Shabingus may include you. I'll bring the beers. I'll bring the beers.

Posted by: Dorf | March 17, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn wasn't beating Hackett's door down and that says something about Hackett."

Then again, Hackett didn't seem like he was dying to play for Zorn, and maybe that says something about Zorn.

Posted by: josettes | March 17, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

That said, he did CHOOSE the panthers over us, because the Panthers offered him the most money.

If the CFL trumped the Panthers offer, then Hackett would be playing in Canada right now.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

psps23,

I agree 100%. The Redskins made it paramount to make free agents feel wanted and needed. This year is totally different, they are throwing small offers out there (even to current Redskins, Rock and Reche)and treating them as if they are unimportant. I guess once you try a certain way and you have limited success with it you have to try something else. However, much like you, I wish they had found a happier medium.

Posted by: sams3 | March 17, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I think the biggest difference this year is that any FA signed would not necessarily be counted on to be the starter. Even at WR. Sure a big WR would be nice and add a dimension to the team, but the skins could draft a WR groom them at the start of this year, and hopefully have them be productive for the playoff run.

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 17, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I've never been there, but I'm pretty sure St. Patty's day is always going on in Australia. Think about it, England sent all their reprobates and criminals to Australia... and those types generally know how to party.

I'm not worried about Kost. He'll re-surface. TE, now I'm a little worried about him.

Posted by: Dorf | March 17, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather take a risk on a guy who has upside, and is hungry, versus a guy looking for the MOST money, and who might only play 6 games, similar to last year.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 01:54 PM

You don't think Hackett has upside, or is hungry? He's shown that he is very talented, but doesn't command a large contract due to injuries. That provides HUGE upside for the next two years. He'll be playing his @ss off trying to prove he's worth more than what he got. They basically signed Hackett to the end of a rookie contract and told him to go earn his pay rate.

I know not every receiver is a flop, but there are far more receivers who are unproductive in their rookie campaigns than the opposite. Most, I would even go to say, are counterproductive, as you have to give them experience before they're ready. I'll bet that if the skins draft a receiver, that Hackett's first six games that he plays, whether spread out due to injury or not, will be more productive than the rookie's entire 1st year. Like I said, that's fine if you want to draft a receiver in order to develop him for the future. But don't automatically assume he'll be a qualified #3, or you'll more than likely be disappointed.

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"Even though the Redskins' off-season conditioning program starts on March 17, Wilson has been a regular at Redskins Park early this offseason.

He is spending more time in the weight room and focusing on improving his technique under defensive boss Greg Blache and new defensive line coach John Palermo."

Shouldn't we be getting some new reports on this important schedule development? Or does off-season conditioning start with a day at the local brewpub in Ashburn?

Posted by: tafka | March 17, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

You don't think Hackett has upside, or is hungry

I think that Hackett went to the WORST situation of the 3 teams chasing him, TB, Carolina, and Washington. TB/Wash., both made the playoffs last year, but didn't offer as much money as Carolina. So if he was so HUNGRY, why was MONEY the deciding factor?

His upside is negated by his injury history.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

And sorry if it seems like I'm crying over this Hackett deal. I actually don't care that much. It's just an example of my fear that the FO once again has gone too far in their personnel policy, only this time on the other end of the spectrum. It's not that big of a deal, but I hope this fiscal responsibility doesn't end up turning into letting key Redskins go because the front office feels like his price should be lower. I've liked the skins' offseasons during Gibbs 2.0, even with the misses of Arch and Flloyd. At least we added impact players during that time. I don't want the elimination of bad deals (avoiding arch, lloyd type deals) to mean the elimination of good deals too (missing out on LBF, Smoot type deals).

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, would love to host you here in Seattle. Remember, I only drink on days ending with "ay", so plan accordingly.

Posted by: PDiddy | March 17, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

psp, the sky is falling, I swear it is.

So, an injury prone player, gets ignored for the first 3 weeks of free agency, BY EVERY NFL TEAM, then finally gets invited to TB/WASH/CAROLINA, and goes to Carolina, by FAR the worst situation of the 3 teams, and its the Redskins who are suddenly shifting their policy towards free agents?

Are you kidding?? Seriously???

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I also believe that our southern states in many places were settled by criminals and reprobates from England -

Posted by: johndinhouston | March 17, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe the fact that there is an abundant list of "needs" by this team (3rd-string QB, WR, G/C, DE, LB, CB, S, depth at DT), and we decide to bring in ONE free agent for a visit. ONE. And we decide he's good enough to play for us, but not at the steeply priced, maxed-out contract of 1.75 million per year. I haven't come to that conclusion yet, but this definitely is adding to my fears.

And Carolina isn't the worst situation, from a FA standpoint. Tampa had an overachieving team last year that nobody actually thinks is more talented than either Carolina or New Orleans. Carolina had a subpar year because their quarterback ended his season in the first couple games, but should be healthy again this year. They've got a bona-fide superstar at WR to give the "Randy Moss" treatment to his teammates by constantly drawing double-teams. And they have a proven coach, considered to be one of the best in the league. We, on the other hand, seem like a solid situation... but only to us in and around DC. Nobody around the league is looking at this FO headed by Vinny and this coaching staff headed by Zorn and says to themselves "now that team looks like a super bowl contender." Especially in the toughest division in football where no team was under .500 last year. We have A LOT to prove before anybody considers this a good situation.

Posted by: psps23 | March 17, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Re: Elfin's Portis Interview:

I am siced (hyped up) now!

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Also,

Have you guys oticed that Vinny loves the new Jason??

I believe the new Jason has gotten more qoutes the past 3 weeks from Vinny then did JLaC over the past 3 years....

Are the Redskins trying to be less secrative and more opened?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"now that team looks like a super bowl contender."

Funny. Were they saying that about the Giants in week 2 last year?

Especially in the toughest division in football where no team was under .500 last year - Which by the way, the Redskins went 3-3 against.

Name some guys that you'd have preferred they brought in? I can think of ONE, maybe 2, but thats it.

I'm sorry the Redskins didn't sign Hackett, they'll now go 0-16, not to mention how they'll be wasting a draft pick on a receiver.

Sky=Fallen

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm 99% sure Washington is better than Carolina. Check the wins and strenght of opponents the past 3 years.

Delhome is garbage. Chris Burman likes him... enough said.

Please don't use injuries as an excuse for Carolina. The Redskins lost about half their starters to injury yet still made the playoffs.

Posted by: sams3 | March 17, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Even if you want to go the injury route, you can argue that Collins was the better QB for the team. If that is the case than Campbell should have been the back up. By that logic Carolina and Washington played about the same amount of games with their second best qb as Carolina did.

Posted by: sams3 | March 17, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

our southern states in many places were settled by criminals and reprobates from England -

Posted by: johndinhouston | March 17, 2008 02:36 PM

And our Northern States by religious zealots. We're behind Australia in that regard where the whole place was made up of convicts.

Fortunately, the Irish are still willing to supply us with all the Guinness we want. I'm lifting one in your honor as we speak.

talent_o'valuator

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 17, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

A lot of you posters sound like fantasy pickers trying to be GM's. Your picks sound like snyders.

Posted by: gdavis4 | March 17, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

That said, he did CHOOSE the panthers over us, because the Panthers offered him the most money.

If the CFL trumped the Panthers offer, then Hackett would be playing in Canada right now.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 02:10 PM

In Carolina, Hackett has the chance to compete (if not already the odds on favorite) to be the #2 receiver (in terms of passes thrown) behind Steve Smith. That spot is already taken in DC (and the Skins also have a real tight end who gets tons of throws).

Posted by: dcsween | March 17, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

... Your picks sound like snyders.

Posted by: gdavis4 | March 17, 2008 03:20 PM

My picks LOOK like (and taste like) boogers.

Posted by: dcsween | March 17, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

A lot of you posters sound like fantasy pickers trying to be GM's. Your picks sound like snyders.

Posted by: gdavis4 | March 17, 2008 03:20 PM

I couldn't agree with you more. Anyone that wants talented players is an idiot. Fantasy losers!

Posted by: sams3 | March 17, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the Skins must really want to make a point to cut off-season spending if they didn't want to sign Hackett for about $3.75M over 2 years, no risk there. If he doesn't work out in year 1. Real Stubbon, Real Skins

Posted by: Smoov | March 17, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the Redskins have gone from being free-spending, and out of control, to penny pinching, and refuse to spend any money. They will now go about trying to reduce their cap to the league MINIMUM they can spend.

Wow....is it me, or did a bunch of people start drinking at work.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 17, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I gotta give it to the 'skins. The front office is making a point and sticking to it. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that there is no alternative motive for them doing this.

Hey, JayZ has seen Hackett work everyday for 4 years. If he needed him, the redskins would have def ponied up the mula. But, they didn't, so he wasn't important.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 17, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell was superb last season as a third WR. The Redskins are getting aging noticably at the LG, RT, DT, DE, OLB, and CB positions. It makes more sense to fortify these positions with youth than to waste money at WR.

Posted by: Dellis2 | March 17, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"Then again, Hackett didn't seem like he was dying to play for Zorn, and maybe that says something about Zorn."

Or it says people only wanted to come here to get paid and now that the Skins aren't doing that, people don't want to even come to play here.

Sad.

That offer is pretty meager if you ask me, especially for someone you want to be a starter. I mean good grief, how much did they over pay a couple years ago for ole "shin splints" there and he just got cut?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | March 17, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Why am I not surprised that we are O'Veranalyzing this thing.

All this says about Hackett is that he wanted to get paid. All this says about the Skins is that they didn't want to pay him that much. He's a middle-of-the-road receiver who may not get another shot at free agency if he busts or keeps getting injured. I'm sure he likes Zorn and his system just fine; he's just not willing to play for scraps so that he can fit into a system. He wants to play for bucks so that he can fit into a nice house...can't blame him. Nor can I blame the Skins for passing him up...sheesh people, are we still talking about DJ Hackett?

-McFunk

Posted by: p1funk | March 17, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

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