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Hall, Brennan Move on from Pats Game

Before we get to the Colt Brennan stuff you're craving, how are you feeling this morning? Elated by the Redskins' offense? Mildly alarmed by the secondary? Quietly confident in all of the above?

Dan Steinberg had more time in the locker room than the guys who had to write for the paper and he talked with members of the secondary about their performance against the Patriots. The Redskins were pretty medium about their performance and the clicking of Brady-to-Moss.

After 15 minutes and one play, Brady had 122 passing yards, Moss had 90 receiving yards and two scores, and the Patriots were up 14-7. Washington's secondary, though, didn't seem cowed, and the Patriots got just 55 more passing yards on the night. Much of it, to be fair, came against Kevin O'Connell, but after the second touchdown, Brady was 3-for-7 for 28 yards before leaving with a shoulder injury.
"We're not alarmed they moved the football," Smoot said. "It's like going into a boxing match saying the man's not gonna hit me. He's gonna hit you. That's just the way it's gonna be. I think it was a great test for us on defense. You cant' say that that offense's not gonna be one, two or three in the NFL....Once I seen the preseason schedule I knew the whole preseason was gonna be a measuring stick, so I think we did a good job out there. Nothing to brag on, but we did a good job."

Rick Maese has more on the defensive performance, including Jim Zorn's observation: "Some of the things that happened out there, there's going to be a lack of happiness."

And now, for the Brennan update. Steinberg reports that there was no shortage of Redskins players stopping by to offer encouragement after Brennan's TD pass interception.

"Think he can play? I think he's gonna be great," Smoot said. "I don't say that about a lot of players. Put it like this, the Falcons traded Brett Favre years ago. I just hope we don't make that mistake."

By Cindy Boren  |  August 29, 2009; 10:30 AM ET
 
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Colt playing the whole game after JC came out was the football equivalent of bringing a box of kittens to the farmers' market, with a sign: "Kittins fer sale, cheep."

If the Skins get a nibble, like a sixth-round pick, great. In any case, Colt be gone.

Chase Daniel got to find his comfy spot on the sidelines, where he'll abide, Dorf-like, this season.

Posted by: farstriker | August 29, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

And that's how you do an old-school first, like you've been there before.

Posted by: farstriker | August 29, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Ever notice how much Brennan and Daniel resemble Zorn as an NFL player? Not overly big, nor cannon-armed, but mobile in the pocket, and not afraid to gamble.

Guess he's hoping for the next Matt Hasselbeck. You could do worse.

But is either an NFL starter? I don't see that. Colt looks like a career backup, with maybe a couple brief excursions into real playing time when somebody gets hurt. Daniel like the guy who makes the roster for a couple seasons, then tries for a coaching job.

Not that I'm any great shakes as a prognosticator.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 29, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Its awfully hard to win when you have the worst GM and evaluator of talent in the entire league running your ball club.

Posted by: oddjob1 | August 29, 2009 10:28 AM |

What about Denver's GM, for starters? Brought in a coach who proceeded to piss off the team's star QB and star WR. How genius is that?

Posted by: CottonEyeJoe | August 29, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

ARE's only catch I remember was across the middle on a short slant and he was too slow to get away from the defender. Moss in the same position runs away, maybe for a TD. Maybe I got carried away, but if Mitchell is all that and Kelly looked good too, why not? Our passing O hasn't exactly lit the league on fire that last few years. Mix it up. You could always go back to the terrible WR sets we've used the past 2 or 3 season.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | August 29, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Maybe I got carried away, but if Mitchell is all that and Kelly looked good too, why not? Our passing O hasn't exactly lit the league on fire that last few years. Mix it up. You could always go back to the terrible WR sets we've used the past 2 or 3 season.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | August 29, 2009 10:48 AM

...and I saw an empty backfield formation last night and WASN'T terrified.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 29, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

The QB situation was muddied by the 'Skins being in the hunt, almost to the end. As a result, Brennan has no NFL starts. That means Zorn has to keep Collins on the roster, for experience.

Brennan has a year in the league, so should be closer to playing but he's maybe blown his chance.

I liked Daniel at Missouri, he looked like a guy without the physical tools, but the intangibles to lead a team, when the game was on the line. Bit different against grown men in the pros, though...

It doesn't matter, does it? We know Snyder will trade future picks to move up and pick Colt McCoy next year!

Posted by: stevebeagrie | August 29, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't able to see the game. What was up with Sellers throwing the Flag on the ground?

Posted by: Seasontickets1966 | August 29, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm praying that Marcus Mason and Marko Mitchell make this team - they have heart - they go 110% when they get the ball and there is no quit in them. While Santana Moss is good, he does drop some easy passes; Marko catches just about anything you throw his way - he makes difficult catches and can find the end zone.

On Colt and Chase... Colt will always be one of those wild mustangs that has all the potential in the world and will show you great plays and boneheaded plays - he comes from the same mold as Brett Fav-ray. I like Chase as well but think he's bound for the practice squad (how long he'll be there is anyone's guess). Colt has Moxie - he just has to learn some discipline - not enough to get rid of the improvisation, but enough to remember that throwing 99 yard interceptions for touchdowns is worse than settling for 3 points.

After last nite I'm getting excited with all the new guys on this team. There is some great potential here for success - now if we can just get team chemistry together so that the Giants can experience 36-0 like we did a few years ago.

Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: laserwizard | August 29, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

..."Some are still nit picking over missing WR's and holding the ball too long. He played great for JC..."

This seems to be the predominant attitude on RI and it is pathetic. The RI site reeks of accepting medicrotity rather than expecting greatness from your team. I know its been a long long time since the Skins were considered anything but a joke in this league, but come on. Anything less than dominance should not be cheered acceptable for a team that pays so high a price for talent year after year. I want to see the Skins be the best in the league, not just accept that they play well in the context of comparing them to previoiusly mediocre or poor play and gross FO mismangement. To be a fan with high expectations while holding his team accountable is one thing...to be a sheep another. Please come out of the pasture.


Posted by: oddjob1 | August 29, 2009 10:51 AM |

It's probably a good thing that your wife, kids, and boss don't feel the same way.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 29, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

" We know Snyder will trade future picks to move up and pick Colt McCoy next year!
Posted by: stevebeagrie"

McCoy's a great college QB in a gimmicky spread offense sort of like the ones that produced Brennan and Daniel. His receivers are supposedly not as good as last year. Most years, QBs get picked higher than they should, but I'd be surprised if he goes much above 12 or 13. In other years, he might go later in the first round.

Bradford looks more like the pro success, but even he doesn't seem a sure thing. How do you evaluate his potential in a pro set without seeing him in NFL camp?

I have a sneaky feeling that the pros will be paying a lot of attention to Jevan Snead, Jimmy Clausen and Matt Barkley. They'll be in pro-style offenses.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 29, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

marko is easily on the team, colt has cut himself with the horrible play in a second straight game, and special teams were better without ROCK so welcome to the team Marcus Mason (in imho). and i'm so glad somebody finally put trevor matich in his place, that guy is the worst analyst ever on comcast (even worse than lavar)

Posted by: ae3td | August 29, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

scamp pay no nevermind to that oddjob deuchebag. HE was one of the posters on Wizards Insider hating on Redskins Inisder.

I don't know why he bothers posting on this blog anyway. According to him: "...please stop the 1st and 2nd crap. this is not the bonehead posters' redskins insiders page. unless you are 12 years old, who cares."

Posted by: oddjob1 | August 27, 2009 2:07 PM


It's obvious someone slept with his wife or some other woman of significance to him.

Hey oddjob, stay your clown ass over there on WI since: "on RI i find it is impossible to wade thru all the idiots to find the very few gems. plus the beat reporter sucks."

You come up here whining and b!tching about a preseason loss. Even though the Redskins beat the Steelers last game, they looked much better against the Patriots.

Please do us, and yourself a favor and taking you pissing and moaning BACK over to Wizards Insider. You can talk THAT front office and how Abe Pollin is destroying that team.

Idiot.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 29, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Its awfully hard to win when you have the worst GM and evaluator of talent in the entire league running your ball club.

Posted by: oddjob1 | August 29, 2009 10:28

I have to admit that some of the things the FO does leaves me scratching my head but we could have it alot worse. We are an average team with an owner willing to spend. It hasnt come together for much success so far but I think Snyder will keep trying different things until he finds the winning formula. Dude wants to win. I believe that. So yeah, we could be doing alot worse.

Posted by: scottmando | August 29, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"...let's not go into "your world." He's (ARE)not playing in your world. In the NFL last year he put up good numbers."


In my world, 53 catches in a 'dink and dunk' offense means nothing.

Yes: El caught 53 passes with an 11.3 yard average.

But without size and breakaway speed, his numbers are like those of a small tight end.

He's a possession receiver the team would do well to no longer possess.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 29, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins are being shown some old school love after last nights game... I think Colt Brennan might want to hang this picture up on his locker to remind him why Washington lives and dies on the QB play:

http://www.shorpy.com/node/6718

That's what a Washington Redskins QB looks like! Or rather, the absolute GREATEST Redskins QB looked like, in his prime.

HTTR

Posted by: WEWard3 | August 29, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell was really impressive. The block for Cooley was awesome. And so was his TD. There's no way in the world he doesn't make the team.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 29, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

RI,

So excited to be back chatting about our Skins... I loved Haynesworth response about hitting Brady, "I'm not that type of player, I don't try to hurt players" That's when you need one of those "Cartoon Bubbles" over his head that has him thinking ("Well except when I stomp on a Cowboys face with my cleats") Soups, Welcome back to the NFL. You are my Starting QB. Mason and Marko!!!!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 29, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Rachel,

I agree w/ you 100%... before the block he's 6'4" 220 with outstanding hands and good speed!!! That block, sealed his roster spot and allowed Cooley to break for 20 more yds!!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 29, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"Anybody who says that Betts is out is insane. The guy is money in the bank, for the money he's getting paid. He can block just as well as CP"

Posted by: SmashMouth

He does, eh? Ask Campbell how his chest feels today, and then ask him who was picking up the blitz on that play.

Posted by: RomoShortball | August 29, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I'll abide by this loss. Outside of the Colt "dolt"... we hung in there with them. We played even football after the 1st half with all the "real" players in there.

Were any of you surprised that Randy Moss made us look silly? Our offense can, at times, look brilliant. AND ITS PRESEASON.

It was fun to watch. I am not expecting a superbowl out of this season, but I do expect us to be in every game we play (or every game we blog about).

Posted by: Dorf | August 29, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Romo, Betts did blow that one,... did anyone catch the chip block that Portis had on NE right DE? Blew the end up!!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 29, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Romo,

Didn't Betts come out of the backfield and catch the pass though.

How about Marcus Mason's block on Richard Seymour that set up the Campbell TD, it looked very portis-esque

Posted by: theFreshinAU | August 29, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Just finished watching the Zorn presser and it was uneventful. Mason and Portis nicked on the ribs, but will be fine, ARE slight ankle, Mike Williams will see a lot of playing time next Thursday and Carlos still has a pocket of blood on the calf. Praised "Soups" but said he missed a couple of throws. Discouraged by penalties but overall he appeared to be somewhat relieved the offense was moving. Kickers comp is dead even. Wouldn't commit to Marko Mitchell but come on,... he's in!!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 29, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

ARE is just collecting a check in my world.

Posted by: MistaMoe

“Is the sky blue in your world?”—Cheers.

Posted by: TheCork | August 29, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Moss owns a lot of DBs in the league, including Laron Landry last night. Should we have remorse about Landry, too?

The 'Skins need to adjust how they play a receiver like Moss. Jam him at the line and provide safety help. That's on Blache for not adjusting.

Posted by: talent_evaluator

Check the replay. That TD at least partly on Hall for whiffing on his attempt to chuck Moss. If they gave out assists on surrendering a TD, Moss earned one. There isn’t a safety in the league can cover Moss when he’s allowed to get off the line like that.

Posted by: TheCork | August 29, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Ok....Campbell looked better last night....Now let's take the next step....Can he look like that for 4 qts for 16 games? Hope so.

Posted by: leevi98 | August 29, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse


4. Cooley looked like a OT on that 73 yd catch and run. How could he be so slow?

Posted by: CottonEyeJoe |

It’s called “using your blocking.” It resulted in about 40 yards YAC. SMART non-burners consider that part of their skill set.

Posted by: TheCork | August 29, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

But cornerback DeAngelo Hall -- who had a tough time covering Moss all night...

I wouldn't say that covering R. Moss is an easy job.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya |

And I wouldn’t say what Hall was doing last night would technically be described as “covering" Randy Moss.

Posted by: TheCork | August 29, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

thecork

“Is the sky blue in your world?”—Cheers.

In my world, the redskins should be forming their own 'triplet' set of receivers:

Marko Mitchell
Devin Thomas
Malcolm Kelly

In my world, 6' 4" fast wide receivers don't get jammed at the line of scrimmage and present match up problems.

Moe says, "Get the young'ns on the field early on in the season so that come Nov/Dec, Zorn knows what each can or cannot do.

We know ARE/Moss/Cooley will be there, but if two of the three young'ns show they belong on the field because they can make a difference, what sense does it make to keep them off?

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 29, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Cork,

I think they play Moss slightly different if it were live... we pressed TO everytime we played them and think the same would be true if it were live. ( i hope ) I know Springs is bigger than others that we have, but he can't have a free release. Smoot did say they played a base "vanilla" offense mostly.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 29, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling ARE won't catch 40 balls this year... Could Roc be the "surprise" cut this year?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 29, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hear from those that were at the game. How did the WR's look and did JC make the right reads in your opinion? The TV broadcast was ok, but in person sometimes you are able to see the receivers running free and no throws cvoming their way.
BTW, Simms was effusive in his praise of JC through much of the first half. To me it started sounding a bit like a used car salesman after a while.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | August 29, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

mark it down, I'm changing course on Mason...he's convinced me the last 2 games...didn't know he could catch like that, and it seems like he's learned to run with more ANGER...do with this what you will...

5 wideouts making the team, SM, ARE, DT, MK, MM....no other options. Eloi to the PS..

Does Wynn make this team, or do you keep Buzzbee.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 29, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Moe,

U my friend are so right about getting the young WR's on the field. I hope they do that against the Jags.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | August 29, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

clegg, great minds think alike, regarding Rock...I think he might be on the edge...getting hurt didn't help in the least...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 29, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

how is JC feeling today? He got hit pretty hard and had an ice pack under his pads.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | August 29, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"....Campbell looked better last night...."

Simple math:

209 yards X 16 games= 3444 yards

3444 is some where around where Campbell was last year when the season ended and the hate on him really began.

Will 3444 yards equal an extension and end the hate?

No.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 29, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

JC is the man! I am very pleased with his performance. That is a sign of things to come. And all the real redskins fans know that supporting Jason Campbell for the things he brings is more prdoductive than nit picking and nagging every single chance you get. Furthermore I am happy to see the "Cult of Colt" nonsense has simmered down, and people our realizing he is a 3RD String QB, and JC is our Starter. I am please with the performance last night.

Posted by: gcoles32 | August 29, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"....Campbell looked better last night...."

Simple math:

209 yards X 16 games= 3444 yards

3444 is some where around where Campbell was last year when the season ended and the hate on him really began.

Will 3444 yards equal an extension and end the hate?

No.

Posted by: MistaMoe

You do realize that was 209 yards for just one half.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

moe, 3444 might not, but 25+ TD's certainly will....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 29, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

MOE,

Only problem with 209 X 16 is he played a half.... I think Soups pushes the 4,000 yd mark. Here's my Reasoning:
1. With Kelly, DT & Marko, it will free up the deep ball which he will hit. ( 0-3 in preseason, but all three were open )
2. Due to the big guys, Moss won't get doubled and he will score.
3. It will open more yds from backs out of the backfield.
4. Zorn admitted to not taking chances 2nd half last year to protect Campbell b/c of pass protection breakdowns. This year, he's going to try and take advantage of his arm.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | August 29, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love Cindy Boren.

Posted by: BMACattack | August 29, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 29, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

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