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Hall: 'I Don't Know If We've Got the Right Personnel'

Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall has been among the most outspoken players during Washington's struggles this season, and on Wednesday afternoon he again voiced his opinions on several of the franchise's problems.

With a critical game coming up Sunday at home against the winless Kansas City Chiefs, Hall emphasized how important a win is to the trajectory of the season as the team inches closer to panic-mode.

"I don't think it's panic," Hall said. "For us it's obviously ... for me, myself a little bit of desperation. I feel like we need this win bad. It's not panic yet, but we're a couple steps from there. We're a couple steps from getting ready to panic right now. Because like you said, you're facing teams that ain't won a game, and we gave Detroit their first win, we gave Carolina their first win. We can't give Kansas City their first win -- that's the bottom line. We got to go out here [and] we got to get 3-3, bottom line. If we want to compete in our division and look forward to the playoffs and look forward to all these other things, we need a win."

As the Redskins continue to falter and speculation increases around the job security of second-year coach Jim Zorn, Hall was asked where he felt the blame should fall for the team's poor start.

Hall, like many of his teammates, backed Zorn and said the coach should not be held responsible for all the team's faults and instead pointed to a roster that might not have the right pieces to be successful.

"I think a lot of people made the comment, '[Zorn's] not out there playing in the games.' That's the truth of the matter," Hall said. "If you want to blame someone, look at the film. Look at the guys who are out there trying to play. We haven't been doing a great job, bottom line, we haven't been doing a great job. I think the blame lies with us. I think the blame lies with us. I think we're the ones out there playing every day, practicing, trying to do the right thing, but I don't know if we've got the right personnel here to do it."


Hall had a key interception in the loss to the Carolina Panthers last Sunday, returning the pick to the 1-yard line, but also allowed quarterback Jake Delhomme to get an extra three yards on a key third-down rush that sealed the win for the Panthers.

While the defense has been playing well, especially over the past two games, the offense has sputtered. After the loss of starting left tackle Chris Samuels to injury, Washington failed to protect quarterback Jason Campbell, who was sacked five times. Inexperienced lineman D'Anthony Batiste, a career guard, filled in for Samuels at tackle in Carolina, and Stephon Heyer is expected to move from right tackle to left for this weekend's game, creating another shake up of the offensive line.

When asked if the Redskins could afford any more injuries, Hall took on the issue of the team's depth.

"Nah, not at all, not at all," he said. "Chris Samuels going down was a devastating loss for us, you know, devastating. We go from having a what, four-, five-, six-time Pro Bowler in there to a guy who hardly has played in this league. Not saying anything to Batiste, he was with me in Atlanta for a little while, but that's a big drop-off, that's a big drop-off. And heading into the offseason and preseason we said we needed to address the offensive line.

"We felt like we did get better ... but that's a position where you can always get better. You can always have proven guys out there backing other guys up that have played in this league, have had starts in this league. That's something we're lacking."

By Paul Tenorio  |  October 14, 2009; 2:15 PM ET
 
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Comments

Oh wow...

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Danny Boy, just sell the team already, you make my life miserable.

Posted by: RiggoisDrunk | October 14, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Now it really begins!

Posted by: coop2401 | October 14, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Wait we can't cut both CBs this off season!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Hall points the finger at Vinny.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | October 14, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

You mean wrong personell like Cornerbacks who can't tackle Aging, immobile Qbs when the game is on the line?

Posted by: bobnowell | October 14, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I like Hall's candor. It's refreshing.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

And heading into the offseason and preseason we said we needed to address the offensive line.
Everyone knew that except vinny.

Posted by: jmy999 | October 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't give a damn if they dug up Tom Landry and asked him to be the GM then hired Jimmy Johnson as HC, Troy Aikman as QB coach, and Emmitt Smith as RB coach.

Just because someone used to have ties to a 'Skins rival don't mean s*** to me.

They need someone other than the current "brain trust" to come in and right this clusterfudge.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 12:23 PM

This Bama must be the President of the Norv Turner Fan Club.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

You mean wrong personell like Cornerbacks who can't tackle Aging, immobile Qbs when the game is on the line?

Posted by: bobnowell | October 14, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Zing!

Posted by: mattylight | October 14, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

And heading into the offseason and preseason we said we needed to address the offensive line.
Everyone knew that except vinny.


Posted by: jmy999 | October 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse
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Vinny knew. So did Dan. The Beastie Boys made a song about it. It's called "Sabotage."

Posted by: walkdwalk | October 14, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Rip Capt. Lou Albano

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 14, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like he has more of an issue with the depth as opposed to the starters.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I hope Hall saw how not to make an open field tackle on a old, washed up, immobile, QB on film.

D'Angelo: CBs keep contain on the edge. I learned that when I was 10 playing recreational football. Are you one of the wrong pieces you were referring to in the article?

Posted by: clark202 | October 14, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Off season! You see what Chargers G.M. A.J. Smith did he cut a starting safety during the bye!

Posted by: coop2401 | October 14, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The last time Collins played in a regular season game, things turned out well. Never know until you try. Think DC can get Leinart for a #2?

Posted by: Realness1 | October 14, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Lou Albano died?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

No.

But he isn't making this team any better.

That being the case, why keep starting him?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

1. He's getting better every year.
2. He's young.
3. He's cheap.
4. He's the best we have.
5. He's a proven winner.

Let's be real, we aren't winning the super bowl this year or next year or even the year after that. We might as well build slowly and quietly. Keeping JC will give us enough cap room to get a lot of other players. Keeping JC also means that we don't have to use a first rounder on another QB instead of a franchise left tackle. While we are slowly building our contender JC and the young receivers will be spending more and more time in the same exact system. By the time we have our new line straightened out and they start to gel we will have a veteren QB with receivers in the primes of their careers. At that point we take a young stud RB in the draft and make a run. You can't just keep turning players over and trying to find a combiantion that works. That approach does not work in this league. You must have all your guns fire at once. We can do that. We can use our first 2 picks next year to draft 2 lineman then use the first 2 picks of 2011 to do the same thing. By 2011 we will have replaced every lineman except Derrick Dockery. In 2013 we can grab a first round running back. All of our other picks during that span can be used along with free agency to replace the guys that will be gone like Fletcher and Griffen. 2013 we will have a veteren QB and receivers with 6 years in the same system, a dominant offensive line, and a homerun hitting running back. We will still have most of our defense. It's a long term plan but it will probably work better than what we've been doing for the last 17 years. Which is dumping our QB and coach every 2 years.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 14, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

We all know that the internal evaluation of last year's team revealed that the O-line was the primary reason for the poor finish. So my question is this: after arriving at this conclusion, why did the personnel guys decided not to upgrade the o-line via draft and free agency, aside from Dockery? How did this happen? That is the real question. Did Vinny decide that they were good enough? Or did Danny say no, we should spend $100 mil on a D-Tackle?

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | October 14, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

NYDailyNews - Captain Lou Albano, the crazed and charismatic wrestling icon who played Cyndi Lauper’s dad in her “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” video, has died. He was 76

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 14, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

. He's getting better every year.
2. He's young.
3. He's cheap.
4. He's the best we have.
5. He's a proven winner.

Let's be real, we aren't winning the super bowl this year or next year or even the year after that. We might as well build slowly and quietly. Keeping JC will give us enough cap room to get a lot of other players. Keeping JC also means that we don't have to use a first rounder on another QB instead of a franchise left tackle. While we are slowly building our contender JC and the young receivers will be spending more and more time in the same exact system. By the time we have our new line straightened out and they start to gel we will have a veteren QB with receivers in the primes of their careers. At that point we take a young stud RB in the draft and make a run. You can't just keep turning players over and trying to find a combiantion that works. That approach does not work in this league. You must have all your guns fire at once. We can do that. We can use our first 2 picks next year to draft 2 lineman then use the first 2 picks of 2011 to do the same thing. By 2011 we will have replaced every lineman except Derrick Dockery. In 2013 we can grab a first round running back. All of our other picks during that span can be used along with free agency to replace the guys that will be gone like Fletcher and Griffen. 2013 we will have a veteren QB and receivers with 6 years in the same system, a dominant offensive line, and a homerun hitting running back. We will still have most of our defense. It's a long term plan but it will probably work better than what we've been doing for the last 17 years. Which is dumping our QB and coach every 2 years.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Good post. This team has so many needs and QB is not the most pressing. Besides do we want to draft some new QB just to get him killed/ruined behind this line next year? No. Lets build th team and then, when/if the only piece missing is the QB, we get a hotshot kid in here who isn't behind a porous line and won't have to try and carry the team too soon.

Posted by: rjohnson66 | October 14, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Hall should shut up and learn to make tackles in the open field, certainly on QB's with the athletic talent of Jake D.

Posted by: redryan400 | October 14, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Hall: 'I Don't Know If We've Got the Right Personnel'

Look in the mirror jackas*!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 14, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Let me refresh your memory, chief.

YOU said: "Sonny was a great QB, but he never won a single postseason game--proof positive it's a team sport.

We all know about Dungy.

Who do you believe?"

To which I replied: "Not sure I believe Dungy just because he coached a SB.

The proof that QB is THE essential position to most NFL teams is that the Colts are 5-0 and looking better than ever WITHOUT Dungy."

That's Peyton's team, not Dungy's.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 2:25 PM

Hey Mr.Redskin,
Show em that stat that shows how the Colts win with no OL and you've got this argument won!

Posted by: mack1 | October 14, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

This is awesome, Hall is vocal and he has a fat contract. Rogers talking is either just stupid, or else he really wants to get out of here. But Hall is sitting pretty and he knows it. I hope he gets way more aggressive with this. I believe he will.

Posted by: REXskins | October 14, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

You mean wrong personell like Cornerbacks who can't tackle Aging, immobile Qbs when the game is on the line?

Posted by: bobnowell
Zing!

I second (or third) that motion. :D If Pat Fischer or Darrell Green saw that tackle, I can only imagine what they'd think.

Posted by: blackjack65 | October 14, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

JC talk = me starting my to do list

out!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The proof that QB is THE essential position to most NFL teams is that the Colts are 5-0 and looking better than ever WITHOUT Dungy."

That's Peyton's team, not Dungy's.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 2:25 PM

One example of a team with a winning record after 5 games is "proof that QB is THE essential position to most NFL teams"?

You are hereby remanded to remedial logic class. Please don't post anymore without adult supervision.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 14, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

You mean wrong personell like Cornerbacks who can't tackle Aging, immobile Qbs when the game is on the line?

Posted by: bobnowell
Zing!

I second (or third) that motion. :D If Pat Fischer or Darrell Green saw that tackle, I can only imagine what they'd think.

Posted by: blackjack65 | October 14, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Heck it was still bettr than any Deion tackle in his whole career ;-)

Posted by: rjohnson66 | October 14, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17

GREAT POST...thats wht I have been failing miserably to say.

You talk good.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

1. He's getting better every year.
2. He's young.
3. He's cheap.
4. He's the best we have.
5. He's a proven winner.
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LOL @ 1.

LOL @ 4 & 5 as well.

You got 3 right. He's cheap.

As for 2, he's been in the league 5 years already, and he isn't getting any younger.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I knew Cyndi Lauper's pregnancy would be the death of Lou. RIP.

Posted by: mack1 | October 14, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Even the players are questioning the owndership and the players selected by the FO. Wow. Dan's football skills have been questioned throught his ownership. But the volume of the questioning seems to be turned up this year. I wonder if he give a darn. Probably not. Sad. I've bled burgundy and gold all my life. But Dan Snyder is the Redskins and he's not a man I can root for - my sports heart is pretty much broken.

Posted by: kmag1 | October 14, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

One example of a team with a winning record after 5 games is "proof that QB is THE essential position to most NFL teams"?

You are hereby remanded to remedial logic class. Please don't post anymore without adult supervision.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 14, 2009 2:36 PM |
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Check the Giants, Vikings, and Saints records while you're at it, Professor. And then check their QBs.

Always assuming you're not too busy polishing your shrine to #17.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't know where you get "proven winner" PA, the rest I agree with.

Posted by: REXskins | October 14, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

My only issue with Hall is his consistency, he actually played pretty well minus one bad tackle.

He was in there on the goal line stand and he returned an INT to the 1 yd line. Those two plays were a major part of why the skins were able to build a 17-2 lead.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 14, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

it's not like deangelo is very good

http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/redskins

Posted by: nattylite88 | October 14, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

This is awesome, Hall is vocal and he has a fat contract. Rogers talking is either just stupid, or else he really wants to get out of here. But Hall is sitting pretty and he knows it. I hope he gets way more aggressive with this. I believe he will.

Posted by: REXskins | October 14, 2009 2:34 PM

Hall is doing what they call "Pulling a Portis."

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse


The proof that QB is THE essential position to most NFL teams is that the Colts are 5-0 and looking better than ever WITHOUT Dungy."

That's Peyton's team, not Dungy's.

Posted by: MrRedskin21

Right, and without a smart Front Office, it could have been Ryan Leaf’s team.

It’s still a team sport, Chief. And the team extends well into the front office and ownership

Until the Giants dismantled New England’s O-line, Brady was the best QB ever.

After they got him some support, ditto Elway.

Let’s say the Redskins under Spurrier got Peyton Manning. Do you seriously think that megalomaniac would have put his Ego in check and let Manning run the offense? No way.

Do you think Snyderatto would have provided him with blockers good enough to keep him alive? Or top notch receivers?

Or a defense that gets him the ball back?

The trouble with so many posters who think in absolutes is they fail to realize it is a COMBINATION of factors that leads to a great franchise, not just a single entity.

I say that while firmly believing that Manning not only is a great QB, he may be he best to ever play the game.

But Dungy doesn’t deserve your casual dismissal. He was a great coach, and apparently remains an even better human being.

And I suggest the Colts look better than ever because Dungy left them in good shape, becaue Dungy in annointing his successor picked well, because they are healthy, because they drafted well again, and because the amazing Peyton Manning has gotten EVEN better.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Sween,

You think its bad what DHall said? If so why?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin21 = Dan Snyder

"A savior QB will lead the way!"

*Nevermind that we have 3 Lombardi trophies courtesty of 3 non-HOF QBs. Our only HOF QB never won a single postseason game.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 14, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Soup lovers, It's unfortunate that you bet on the wrong horse, so to speak. Enjoy watching another season (like last year and 3/4's of 2007) go down the toilet w/ him at the helm and blaming everyone else for the losses. Make sure you DVR the Chargers game because it should be the last time Soupy takes the field for DC. Maybe you can get a Fathead of him to put in your room, Since he's headed to backupville and I'm sure you'll miss him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH6eO6mj60Y&feature=fvw

He makes the same mistakes this year that he did in 2003. But he's improving right?

He can't get past his 2nd read most pass plays. That has been the same since 2003. Take the blinders off.

Posted by: Realness1 | October 14, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

If we end up with a QB before the trade then it would seem Gruden is on his way.

Maybe we can trade AM for Quinn and our whole o-line for Leinart and then have our 2nd string D-line play both ways. . . line up ARE, JC and Leinart/Quinn and then play "Wildcat". . .

This 'outside the box' thinking came to me because my friends and I played intramural flag fubol in college and we were the only all girl team so played against many boy teams. . .(you boys take stuff way too seriously fyi)given that only 2 of us knew anything about football our two most successful plays consisted of
1. handing the ball to a player and having a phalanx of ladies run in front of her flashing
2. handing the ball to a player and surrounding her with every other player and running a little mob downfield.

I believe we scored once with each play and managed 3-4 first downs . . .

Posted by: sfskin | October 14, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Indy has stability.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Well said Cork!

Posted by: coop2401 | October 14, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Fail to the Redskins, fail vic-torrry, f-ing over paid, under-talented children coached by Tin-Tin and controlled by the Cult of Scientology on the warpaaaaaath, fight, for ooollllllllld DC

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 14, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

NYDailyNews - Captain Lou Albano, the crazed and charismatic wrestling icon who played Cyndi Lauper’s dad in her “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” video, has died. He was 76

Posted by: BeantownGreg1
Noooooooooooo! What will the Moon Dogs or the Wild Samoans do now?

Posted by: dcwun | October 14, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17,

I like your overall thought, patience is something we need to have more of in Assburn.
Two things I'm not so sure about in your post: JC is cheap THIS year, but will not be quite as cheap going forward, and if we keep this offense I honestly don't think I could watch JC for 3 more years. Just doesn't look right and is not at all accurate.
Maybe just let journeymen play qb until we get the line straight? Just a thought, and probably a dumb one ;)

Posted by: fzone | October 14, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Right, and without a smart Front Office, it could have been Ryan Leaf’s team.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2009 2:42 PM |
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No argument there.

This team needs to hire a GM, and in turn the GM needs to choose his own HC (without interference from The Danny).

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

He can't get past his 2nd read most pass plays. That has been the same since 2003. Take the blinders off.

Posted by: Realness1

Because by the second read, he is on his back

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ 1.

LOL @ 4 & 5 as well.

You got 3 right. He's cheap.

As for 2, he's been in the league 5 years already, and he isn't getting any younger.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

LOL@U

1. He's better by pretty much every single statistical measure available even though his line is degrading.

2. He's a year younger than Eli Manning. He's 27. QBs can play until their mid 30s or even into their 40s

3. We agree, his cap hit will only be a few mil a year.

4. Todd sucked in preseason against backups and looks terrible in this offense.

5. He has a split NC at Auburn.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 14, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

The thing with JC17 and the money issue is he is not cheap if other teams are willing to pay more.

What team is going to offer him a bunch of money at this point.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Hall had a key interception in the loss to the Carolina Panthers last Sunday, returning the pick to the 1-yard line, but also allowed quarterback Jake Delhomme to get an extra three yards on a key third-down rush that sealed the win for the Panthers.

POSTED BY: RI

Let's not give Hall too much credit for the Int. Had the receiver not muffed it, the ball would not have deflected to Hall, standing a few yards behind him, NOT in position to break up the pass.

Likewise, if he'd kept contain on the rollout, as he's coached to do, he'd have dropped DelHomme for a loss.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

. He's getting better every year.
2. He's young.
3. He's cheap.
4. He's the best we have.
5. He's a proven winner.
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LOL @ 1.

LOL @ 4 & 5 as well.

You got 3 right. He's cheap.

As for 2, he's been in the league 5 years already, and he isn't getting any younger.

Posted by: MrRedskin21

If the Skins played Todd Collins, they should be arrested for attempted murder. It would be the equivalent of what Spurrier did to Patrick Ramsey.

Posted by: dcwun | October 14, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Beep

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Hall may be right, but he lost all right to talk when he made that pathetic attempt to tackle Delhomme.

Posted by: Fozz1791 | October 14, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Because by the second read, he is on his back

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 2:46 PM

Right. Every pass play of his career he doesn't have 9 seconds to throw.

Posted by: Realness1 | October 14, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin21 = Dan Snyder

"A savior QB will lead the way!"

*Nevermind that we have 3 Lombardi trophies courtesty of 3 non-HOF QBs. Our only HOF QB never won a single postseason game.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 14, 2009 2:43 PM |
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I never said any such thing re "savior QB." I DID say it's the essential position on most NFL teams. And that INCLUDES the three Super Bowls the Redskins won. Theismann played great (the '83 Skins led the league in scoring), Williams came through when he was needed most in '87, and Rypien played absolutely lights-out in '91.

You don't need a HOF QB to win a champiosnhip, but you DO need one who can play - even if it's for only for one season - VERY well (the exception to that rule is the Ravens/Dilfer).

That being said, your cute remarks are wasted on me. Go back and read this blog and you'll see that I was a Jason Campbell supporter from the time he was drafted right up until this year.

However, I choose not to delude myself any long re his abilities (lack thereof).

I used to think the JC Haters were a joke (and I still do); now the JC Apologists have surprassd them in the area of self-delusion.

However, if it makes you feel better to call me "Snyder," "Vinny," and such-as, that's cool.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

No argument there.

This team needs to hire a GM, and in turn the GM needs to choose his own HC (without interference from The Danny).

Posted by: MrRedskin21

Always glad to see when we agree on something.

It's fun posting and discussing and arguing, but most of us know until it gets smart at the top, the future is hopeless for ol' DC..

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Message to 23: STFU and work on your sorry @ss tackling skills unceasingly ... and man coverage skills while you're at it. Also, if you can teach 22 how to hold on to the ball when it hits his hands, that would be a real bonus. Returning a few kickoffs wouldn't hurt either.

Posted by: Smoca021 | October 14, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

at the end of the day JC really is just a back up. don't tell me about his completion percentage either..Dude throws 6 yard passes all day long and half of those passes were completed at or behind the line of scrimmage...its not hard to find somebody who can do that..and his INT rate is low because of his pass selection too..maybe its all he has time for but i notice that even when he does have time he holds the ball too long..he can run but he slides like a girl..he doesnt complete many long passes and he isnt the take charge guy you want running the show so tell me why we shouldn't get rid of him now for a backup and a draft pick because we need a backup and we need draft picks and after this year we won't get crap for him

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Watching this team is like being a highschooler in the movie Can't Buy Me Love and watching the trials and tribulations of the Ronny Miller Express.
This team has gone from totally chic to, like, totally geek.

Posted by: pgugino | October 14, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17

I agree 100% with your post regarding JC17. We have so many pressing needs, it would be a mistake to go after another QB just to stand behind this debacle of a line.

Posted by: NYSkinsFan1 | October 14, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I like your overall thought, patience is something we need to have more of in Assburn.
Two things I'm not so sure about in your post: JC is cheap THIS year, but will not be quite as cheap going forward, and if we keep this offense I honestly don't think I could watch JC for 3 more years. Just doesn't look right and is not at all accurate.
Maybe just let journeymen play qb until we get the line straight? Just a thought, and probably a dumb one ;)

Posted by: fzone |

So let a journeyman QB play? Some of you are as disfunctional as Snyder. Stick with what you have and build around him. We've had nothing but "journeymen QBs" for the last decade.

Posted by: dcwun | October 14, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Hope Joe Gibbs becomes Team President and hires Bill or Chris Polian for GM.

Interesting link from over a year ago after Zorn was hired-

Joe Gibbs on Jim Zorn: 'We All Need to be Praying for Him'

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/02/15/joe-gibbs-on-jim-zorn-we-all-need-to-be-praying-for-him/

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 14, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

the missed tackle by Hall at the end of the game was huge. he ought to shut his mouth and play cause all this yakking to the media doesn't mean a thing on Sunday - he and Rogers are overpaid and won't be here when things get turned around....corners ought to be able to cover and tackle - ours sometimes cover, and are soft on the tackle.

you can see why Hall has been so many places - all talk, very little production other than catching an interception now and then.

Posted by: outrbnksm | October 14, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone says we need a real GM--we have two on the field. First CP is telling the coaches what personnel to use, and now D. Hall offers his expert opinion on personnel. No GM? No problem!

Posted by: 0073 | October 14, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

The personel problem starts with Hall at the top of the list. You mean to tell me his sorry you know what couldn't stop Delomme from getting that first down? Give me a freakin break.

Posted by: hessone | October 14, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Vinny take note that most people know that you and your talent scouts are at the bottom of the barrel. There is no excuse (btw J. Reid other teams are finding decent OL help) for our OL to be this neglected and shallow. What does Zorn mean when he says that your playcalling is limited when backups are in the game. mf it's week 6, you mean you and your staff aren't prepared for this sh** after this is the same sh** that eliminated your a** last year. CHILD PLEASE!

Posted by: jenksredskins | October 14, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Captain Lou, Captain Lou, Albano - Sound Off

Posted by: hessone | October 14, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin21,

Question, If the Danny actually hired a real GM to actually do the job; Do you think his selection of the HC would need Danny's approval?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 14, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Our of thanks and respect (and draft choices) we should trade Samuels, Portis, and Moss to teams who could complete for a championship before their NFL time is up.

Posted by: rsmskc | October 14, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

This is a riot - Hall critiquing the selection of personnel. That would necessarily include him and his huge contract - is he saying that's bogus? His poster boy moment where Delhomme abused him in Carolina really makes his ability to level these comments a moot point unless he is indicting himself as a poor fit with inadequate talent. This just gets better and better every day now...

Posted by: i155133 | October 14, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

The whole reasoning behind not upgrading O-Line was to ensure Jason Campbell DOES NOT have a 3500 yards, 20 touchdown season and ultimately give front office the reason to shop around as shopping around seem to amuse Snyder, Vinny the most.

Number 2 - We take pride in our capitalist ways and so as Danny. The franchise of Redskins is first a business and then a sporting entity. Why fix if it ain't broke. As long as Danny is making money why in the world would he make changes?

Number 3 - You never ever ever trade a player who has individual skills at a certain position with a player whose skill will depend largely on how well others play in front of him. Example cornerback is a skilled position but anyone can gain yard as a running back behind a decent O-Line. Point the position of cornerback should have been traded with the position of running back.

Number 4 - How can you be a winner when you let go leaders like Ryan Clark, Antonio Pierce, Lavar and many more...

Posted by: DesiHungama | October 14, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

The whole reasoning behind not upgrading O-Line was to ensure Jason Campbell DOES NOT have a 3500 yards, 20 touchdown season and ultimately give front office the reason to shop around as shopping around seem to amuse Snyder, Vinny the most.

Posted by: DesiHungama | October 14, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse
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Bingo.

Posted by: walkdwalk | October 14, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

You mean wrong personell like Cornerbacks who can't tackle Aging, immobile Qbs when the game is on the line?

Posted by: bobnowell
Zing!

I second (or third) that motion. :D If Pat Fischer or Darrell Green saw that tackle, I can only imagine what they'd think.

Posted by: blackjack65 | October 14, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Heck it was still bettr than any Deion tackle in his whole career ;-)

Posted by: rjohnson66 | October 14, 2009 2:36 PM


I can't stand Deion Sanders but...The guy could COVER. Man, Zone, Press-Man, His As*. Anything that needed to be covered and any way it needed to be covered he could do it. Then to top it all off he would make big gamechanging plays. He was like combining Carlos Rogers and DeAngelo Hall, with some Champ Bailey thrown in. His only flaw was that he couldn't tackle a toddler without help.

Posted by: ecale25 | October 14, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

^ Well, that and his showboat personality and big fat mouth.

Posted by: ecale25 | October 14, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

If not for Hall, this team would NEVER get any INTs.

Posted by: Gary22 | October 14, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

People that are blaming Hall for not tacklling JD. First, if not for Hall we would not have even been in the game. And second, had the defense stopped the Panther, who actually thinks the Skin's offence would have scored?? Hall has done exactly what he's being paid to do, which NO ONE ELSE in the secondary can do, and that's catch the ball.

Posted by: Gary22 | October 14, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

yeah hall played pretty well on sunday, aka he was making tackles, yes he missed delhomme, but that's not the reason we lost...hopfelly dhall just continues to work hard at being a better tackler, because you can't be a shutdown corner if you can't create havock

Posted by: BMACattack | October 14, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

If you want Dan Snyder to take these comments seriously, then stop calling him a loser Napoleon-complex moron. Show him some respect and don't insult loser Napoleon-complex morons!

Posted by: saltyrogers | October 14, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

HALL SHOULD TALK..HE CAN`T COVER AND AS FOR THE PICK..IT WASN`T HIS MAN..HE WAS JUST STANDING THERE..ALONE..NOT WITH A RECEIVER.
I HAVE TO SAY..IF IT WAS RODGERS..HE MOST CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE DROPPED IT.

THE WHOLE OF REDSKIN NATION..KNOWS THE PROBLEM BEGINS WITH SNYDER. MAINLY BECAUSE HE EMPLOYS VINNY IN A KEY SPOT..AND VINNY KNOWS LESS ABOUT PLAYERS QUALITY..THAN I DO..WHICH IS SCARY.

THEY TRULY DO NOT HAVE THE PERSONAL TO BE COMPETITIVE..ESPECIALLY IN THE NFL EAST.
THEY CAN`T BEAT THE WORST TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE...TURN THEIR SEASON AROUND..COME ON!! AMASS A LOT OF DRAFT CHOICES..AND GET A GM..AND IN A COUPLE OF YEARS...MAYBE 9-7.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | October 15, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

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