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Hall makes emotional return to Atlanta

DeAngelo Hall spent the first four seasons of his NFL career in Atlanta with the Falcons, who selected him eighth overall in the 2004 NFL draft. He still owns a home in Atlanta, still spends time there in the offseason, still counts old Falcons teammates as some of his best friends.

Sunday, Hall will make his first appearance in the Georgia Dome with another team - the Redskins. So will it be weird?

"Not really weird," Hall said Monday. "I'm not Brett Favre walking back into Lambeau. It's not that. I was pretty good, but I'm not Brett Favre walking back into Lambeau.

"It's gonna definitely be a little emotion tied into this thing. I saw a lot of those guys mature as players, mature as people on and off the field. Whole new coaching staff, so it's not like I know a ton of those guys, but I can't wait to go out there and just mix it up with them."

About that coaching staff: Hall was summarily dismissed by the staff of former coach Bobby Petrino, who traded him to Oakland before the 2008 season. With that as the backdrop - and Hall's feelings about Petrino have been quite apparent for some time - Hall was asked whether he was surprised at how quickly the Falcons have turned things around in the wake of the Michael Vick scandal and then Petrino's abrupt departure for the University of Arkansas.

"When Mike was gone, we didn't have a quarterback," Hall said. "Petrino was an [jerk]. He left. I mean, those are the two things. Obviously they drafted a great player in Matt Ryan, got a quarterback. Got a coach. So this team wasn't in total disarray like everybody made it out to be."

"There was a lot of speculation around the team because of the Michael Vick situation, because of the Bobby Petrino situation, but it wasn't a bad football team."

Hall, who is also expected to see significant action as a punt returner for the first time as a Redskin, said he is aware that the Falcons may try to attack him, using receivers such as Roddy White - who caught four balls for 108 yards in Monday night's loss to New Orleans - with whom Hall is quite familiar.

"If they're coming after me, I can live with that," Hall said. "A chance for me to try to make a play, help us win, I can live with that all day. I hope they do."

Someone asked Hall if he, like Favre, might shed a tear after the final gun at the Georgia Dome, his old home.

"If I get a win, I might," Hall said. "We need one. You can quote me. We win, I'm damn sure crying."

From da Bog

Dan Steinberg reports that, on the "NFL Today" show Sunday, Shannon Sharpe wore a paper bag on his head and Bill Cowher grinned.

By Barry Svrluga  |  November 3, 2009; 9:53 AM ET
 
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poop poop

Posted by: dcsween | November 3, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Would I tear this team down and start over? No. In fact, I think that would be a dumb move.

Now the offense alone, that's a different story...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 3, 2009 10:59 AM


What would be dumb about it? By the time you have the offense anywhere in the neighborhood of efficient, the defense will be past its prime (you know, the whole "building thru free agency" thing) and in need of a rebuild. So why not just save yourself 3-5 years and just blow the whole thing up?

This team doesn't need a band-aid. It needs surgery. Anything less than a FULL rebuilding is just lying to yourself.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 3, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Emotions in motion ... Billy Squier, right?

Posted by: dcsween | November 3, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I might cry if we get a win too. My poor draft spot *rubs eyes*.

Posted by: REXskins | November 3, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

With no GM to evaluate player talent and value, we make the biggest bonehead free agent signings. Hall isn't that good. Not 40 Million good. The Skins just never seem to hit the jackpot on a free agent. Sure there have been some OK ones, but mostly they all turn into big disappointments.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 3, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

"By the time you have the offense anywhere in the neighborhood of efficient, the defense will be past its prime"

Says who? It took the Saints one season, bringing in Sean Payton and Drew Brees. It took the Dolphins one season, bringing in Sparano. It took the Falcons one season, with Ryan and Turner. It took the Ravens one season, bringing in Cam Cameron and Flacco.

The adage that it takes 3-5 years to rebuild is LONG gone in the NFL. Chances are if you're waiting 3-5 years, you're probably going to start rebuilding again anyway.

Posted by: psps23 | November 3, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

And the cleaning crew at Redskin's Park is busy cleaning up the head when Fat Albert's steaming bowl fillers cause the the toilet to overflow!

Posted by: vaherder | November 3, 2009 9:29 AM |

@vaherder. Dude. LMAO. Post of the day.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 3, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

FedorEM

What do you want from Hall. His coach asks him to line up 10 yards off the ball. Aside from the week 1 lack of effort and the Delhomme debacle he has been ok. It has been that guy on the other side who has been getting torched all year. If nothing else about Hall if he gets his hands on the ball he is going to catch it.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | November 3, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

RI post: "Hall makes emotional return to Atlanta"

Hey, it may not rank up there with AH's steamers but it a bowl filler. Will keep WaPo's cleaning crew busy.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 3, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Hall gets a pick 6 and the Redskins still lose. Book it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 3, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Brownwood, with cousin Vinny gone, and a competent GM in place, this team could easily be a playoff team in 1-2 years.

Rebuilding usually starts with assembling a dominant O line and a crushing D. We're already half way there. True, the rebuild will probably take three years to complete, but we already have a lot of pieces.

Much of this depends on an uncapped year providing the ability to purge some stupid contracts, and probably a little luck.

Posted by: edvar | November 3, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Hall gets a pick 6 and the Redskins still lose. Book it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 3, 2009 11:48 AM

Plus he returns two punts for TDs and then explains to ARE the principle of running forward. Skins still lose.

Posted by: League-Source | November 3, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

FedorEM

What do you want from Hall. His coach asks him to line up 10 yards off the ball. Aside from the week 1 lack of effort and the Delhomme debacle he has been ok. It has been that guy on the other side who has been getting torched all year. If nothing else about Hall if he gets his hands on the ball he is going to catch it.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | November 3, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Granted he is better than Rogers, but he still is vastly over paid. He does have good hands. And yes he plays 10 yards off of the receiver, that is not his fault. I am just pissed that they gave him so much when we could have used it on 2-3 players to fill other needs. Our D is decent. But our O is abismal. We needed to address that side of the ball. Football is a game of points. YOu need to score to win, and we don't score.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 3, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Emotions in motion ... Billy Squier, right?

Posted by: dcsween | November 3, 2009 11:34 AM |

Mebbe Billy Ocean.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 3, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The adage that it takes 3-5 years to rebuild is LONG gone in the NFL. Chances are if you're waiting 3-5 years, you're probably going to start rebuilding again anyway.

Posted by: psps23 | November 3, 2009 11:44 AM


I'ma need you to take into account what division the Redskins play in. The teams you listed play in divisions that either have only one really strong team or a group of poo-poo teams. The Skins will have to rebuild AND overtake the Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys. Not easy.

Plus the teams you listed (Falcons, Saints, Dolphins) all did a COMPLETE overhaul of their roster and coaching staff. They didn't hang on to overpriced vets in the name of trying to contend. They committed to rebuilding and purged themselves of the old and were fortunate to pick right when they brought in the new.

That said, you don't go into it with the "I expect to contend NOW" mentality because you set yourself up to fail. If this team got themselves a quality GM, who in turn hires a quality coach and let THEM shape the roster, you'd be surprised how much a TRUE rebuild would help this team.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 3, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

This is not to suggest, however, that Carter, Tryon and other defensive players do not deserve most of the credit for their success/improvement. Obviously, they do.

By: JReid

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Huh?? Whaaa?

But that's exactly what you're saying.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 3, 2009 9:20 AM

ditto...WTF...please put someone on this beat that knows something about football and they can articulate their opinion!!!!! better than me!!!!!!!!!!!

also...it does seem like skins has become a cash cow for wapo...but it feels like we're stuck with second stringers when it comes to reporters and columnist aside from mr. boz of course. c'mon!!! wapo's sports editor=vinny!

Posted by: dealer1 | November 3, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

They took ARE’s punt return duties away?

THEYYYYYYYYYY TOOK HIS JOB!!!!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 3, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

FedorEm

I agree we overpaid for D.Hall, but word on the street that New England was going to pay him the same. What players do you think the skins could have picked up this past offseason that would have helped the O? The only person I could think of would be TO. Not because he would have amazing stats but I think he would have been an amazing decoy and taught Thomas and Kelly how to practice hard and how to be WCO receivers.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | November 3, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I got a bad feeling about the Atlanta game. They are all upset about losing to New Orleans.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 3, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

DEYYYYY TOOK ‘IS YOB!!!!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 3, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey all I got board and did a stat breakdown of Campbell with the line after each big injury

42/61; 68%; 7.4 ypa; 1.6 TD%; 1.6 Int%; 226 ypg; 89 QBR; 3 sak
56/86; 65%, 7.6 ypa; 5.8 TD%; 4.6 Int%; 218 ypg; 88 QBR; 10 sak
38/59; 64%; 6.3 ypa; 3.4 TD%; 3.4 Int%; 186 ypg; 79 QBR; 7 sak

Stat line 1 is with all five starters
Stat line two is post Randy Thomas going down
Stat line 3 is with out Samuels.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 3, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

EY TUK IS ERBBBB!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 3, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Rebuilding usually starts with assembling a dominant O line and a crushing D. We're already half way there. True, the rebuild will probably take three years to complete, but we already have a lot of pieces.

Much of this depends on an uncapped year providing the ability to purge some stupid contracts, and probably a little luck.

Posted by: edvar | November 3, 2009 11:50 AM


I disagree that there's already "a lot of pieces"...if that were true, this team would be 5-2 at worst considering the Madden Rookie-level schedule we just played. Total collapse under the rough upcoming schedule would be expected...2-5 against the dregs of the NFL is unacceptable and REALLY telling of what the real talent is of this team.

That offense needs to be completely overhauled. No one outside of Chris Cooley is worth keeping, and even then I say trade him if someone makes you a big offer. And on D, between free agency and old age, the D you see isn't gonna be the same one in 2 or 3 years. When you rebuild, you don't do just one unit--you rebuild the WHOLE TEAM.

You nailed it on your last paragraph...the uncapped year. If Danny salivates and looks at this as a chance to load up on the Julius Peppers of the world with unlimited resources, then this team is doomed to mediocrity for another decade or more. If he wises up and gets a GM who uses this upcapped year for what it should be: a get out of jail free card for all the huge contracts and starts building THRU THE DRAFT, then this team has hope. Otherwise, (to borrow Greg's pet phrase) lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 3, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Says who? It took the Saints one season, bringing in Sean Payton and Drew Brees. It took the Dolphins one season, bringing in Sparano. It took the Falcons one season, with Ryan and Turner. It took the Ravens one season, bringing in Cam Cameron and Flacco.

The adage that it takes 3-5 years to rebuild is LONG gone in the NFL. Chances are if you're waiting 3-5 years, you're probably going to start rebuilding again anyway.

Posted by: psps23 | November 3, 2009 11:44 AM |

As for the Saints and Falcs, they may have "rebuilt" in one year but they had a franchise QB. The Phins don't have one and they are regressing. You have confused the concept "years to rebuild" with the "having a franchise QB" concept. Take Oak. They have been rebuilding, their QBs have sucked worse than Campbell, and they will continue to be rebuilding for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 3, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I got a bad feeling about the Atlanta game. They are all upset about losing to New Orleans.Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 3, 2009 12:03 PM

LMAO!!!! LOL...woooooohoooooo....haaaaa...that's some funny shti

Posted by: dealer1 | November 3, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

LMAO, dlhaze....... I love it!

Posted by: AppleScience | November 3, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

EY TUK IS ERBBBB!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 3, 2009 12:05 PM |

Was it hydro?

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 3, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins don't need to be blown up completely. They can leave the defense alone for a year or two, with the exception of tossing out dead weight contracts like Fred Smoot. They could use a little help in the secondary and linebacker but nothing that would keep them from maintaining a top 5-10 status for the next 3 years. If they can even make the offense average within the next 2 seasons, the Redskins are a playoff team.

Just focus on finding two new offensive line starters next year. Whether it be by draft or free agency, it doesn't matter. Just find two good, young bookend tackles. A speed back would be a bonus.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 3, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

brownwood26 the defense have many young players who a contributing now. Why do you think that a complete rebuild of the defense will be necessary in 2-3? I can think of 3-4 positions that have to be filled over that period if the players are not already on staff.

Posted by: TWISI | November 3, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Being an Atl native, I can say, the comments D Hall made at the time about Petrino were refreshing and needed to be made.
I was offered a ticket to Sun. game for $40 but I respectfully declined. I rather save my disgust in the privacy of my own home..

Posted by: ga8085 | November 3, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Beware John Abraham!

At least that's what Jason Campbell said.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 3, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo, Jarmen, Cooley, Godston, Alexander, Blades, Horton, and Landry, look like pretty good pieces to me. Blades, Wilson, Rocky Mac, Dockery, Tryon and others are serviceable as well. And we still don't really know about Marko Mitchel, Barnes, Davis, DT and Kelly. I think the right coach could mean a world of difference to those guys.

Otherwise, I do agree with your assessment of what next year means to this team.

Posted by: edvar | November 3, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Sherm Lewis has more common sense then Zorn and attacks the Falcons questionable secondary. That's one of the things that angers me about Zorn, his opponents could have all 4 starters out in the secondary and he still calls an ultra conservo game plan that calls for no passes down the field. I can't wait till he's gone, feel sorry for him my butt.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 3, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Nate, Cooley was on my safe roster.

4th, you're wrong about Cooley being a bad blocker. [Also, did you notice I had last night's game right both ways? Saints to win, but Atlanta to cover in the Coffee Flats?]

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Posted by: dcsween | November 3, 2009 11:13 AM

I would say Robert Royal AND Zeron Flemister were better blockers.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 3, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN: "Raiders to investigate claims against Cable"

Mebbe the dude will get a MMA gig and duke it out with our boy Westbrook. Speaking of Duke, how 'bout them Blue Devils! 3-1 in the ACC! Beat the Cavs and the Terps! Speaking of the Cavs and the Terps, how bad do they suck? Worse than the Skins? A threefer at the end of the season? Groh, Fridge and Z's heads all roll together?

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 3, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I think the right coach could mean a world of difference

Posted by: edvar

You are so right. We'd be 5-2 with a decent HC. Fix the OL and we have playoff talent.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 3, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

EERRR TIK IS EERRRB

Posted by: TotallyTacos | November 3, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Edvar... get a urine test... Skins will be a playoff team in 1-2 years??

Any competent Head Coach or GM that comes in and begins to turn this mess around, will be undone by his own success due to Dannys fragile ego.

Snyder is driven by a narcissist personality combined with a "chip on his shoulder ego". So, if he sees a Head Coach taking headlines and credit for an improving team.. he will begin to apply the "its my show" screws to him. He did it to Gibbs by using Vinny to usurp control. And he did it to Shottenheimer.
Gibbs quit, and it wasnt for family reasons (he was seen a week later in Loudon, New Hampshire at a NASCAR event). Marty wanted to be fired after Dan began to make his life miserable.

Zorn will probably be fired and Snyder will hire a high profile marquee Head Coach. And the cycle will begin again.. This new Head Coach turns it around. And when he begins to get credit and headlines in the media, Danny's fragile ego will rear its ugly head and run him off using Vinny as his tool again and again...and the dysfunction will continue.

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edvar wrote:

Brownwood, with cousin Vinny gone, and a competent GM in place, this team could easily be a playoff team in 1-2 years.

Rebuilding usually starts with assembling a dominant O line and a crushing D. We're already half way there. True, the rebuild will probably take three years to complete, but we already have a lot of pieces.

Much of this depends on an uncapped year providing the ability to purge some stupid contracts, and probably a little luck.

Posted by: edvar | November 3, 2009 11:50 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | November 3, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: dcsween | November 3, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I think the right coach could mean a world of difference

Posted by: VinnyC

You are so right. We'd be 5-2 with a decent HC. We have playoff talent.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 3, 2009 12:32 PM |

Glad you agrees with me Z Bird. We haves a playoff caliber roster!

VinnyC

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 3, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Says who? It took the Saints one season, bringing in Sean Payton and Drew Brees. It took the Dolphins one season, bringing in Sparano. It took the Falcons one season, with Ryan and Turner. It took the Ravens one season, bringing in Cam Cameron and Flacco.

The adage that it takes 3-5 years to rebuild is LONG gone in the NFL. Chances are if you're waiting 3-5 years, you're probably going to start rebuilding again anyway.

Posted by: psps23 | November 3, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse


You just missed the years where they were building their olines. The Ravens started drafting oline in 2006. The Falcons started in 2007. The Saints started building their oline back in 2005.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 3, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

SkinsneedaGM

Re-read my post. I said with a COMPETENT GM, Redskins COULD be a playoff team. And it's true.

Posted by: edvar | November 3, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"...because of the Michael Vick situation..."

And isn't it amazing how little Vick has given the iggles this year?

Was the media hurly-burly over his return to the NFL nothing but sound and fury signifying nothing?

Sure was.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 3, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE stop with the dominant DEFENSE......that is just drunk Koolade Head Delusions......they are better than the INEPT Offense..... but 5 games so far against the Interhigh....makes anything they have done IRRELEVANT...Eagles put an easy 3 TD's on them......

Get used to reality...2-14...maybe, if they get lucky.... 3-13...

After a weekend watching FUNCTIONAL teams SCORE...STOP fooling yourselves...this team is BROKEN (from top to bottom) and it will take...like the woeful Wizards .... years to MAYBE fix IF they do the cleanup of the current garbage dump...correctly...

Posted by: FletcherChristian1 | November 3, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

If this Dude played even half as well as he yapped, he would already be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame -- in a special wing for active players who have already clearly distinguished themselves as standing head and shoulders above all of the rest.

But all we've ever seen and heard from DHall is a relentless series of excuses about how he was only "this close" away from greatness.

Now we also gotta admit that a mouthy underperformer like this might stand out on any other team -- but not so here.

By mixing himself in with so many "alibi artists" like JC17, CP26 AH92 and several others -- as well as some hopeless losers like Yo Vinny and D-bag Dan -- we can see that he fits right in with the rest.

Unfortunately, this collection of jokers are more Duds than Dudes...

So Hail to the Dudskins! And fight for ol' "me, me"

Posted by: Vic1 | November 4, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

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