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Hall, Mitchell Tangle in More Intense Practice

Just two days after Coach Jim Zorn said some of his players were "soft" in the Redskins' preseason opener, the intensity level was noticeably higher at Sunday morning's practice at Redskins Park. Players' tempers matched the rising temperature, as the first fight of the preseason broke out during a team drill.

Cornerback DeAngelo Hall and rookie receiver Marko Mitchell mixed it up and exchanged heated words following a play. The two had to be separated by several teammates.

"It's hot out here, it's training camp, we haven't had a good fight yet," Hall said, listing the contributing factors that led to him tossing Mitchell to the ground. "[Defensive coordinator Greg] Blache was getting going a bit. So you take on the identity of your coordinator. We all got a little fiery, and I led the charge."

Both players agreed that Mitchell was clutching Hall, rather than blocking him.

"I was holding D-Hall a little bit. He got a little frustrated, got a little mad, that's all," said Mitchell, who's battling for the fifth receiver spot. Mitchell was all smiles after practice, copping to the hold but offering a bit of clarification.

"A [defensive back], any time he's getting blocked by a receiver, they always say we're holding," he said. "Holding to them is blocking to us."

Hall says he appreciated that the rookie fought back. Backing down, especially so soon after Zorn uttered the S-word, would not have gone over well.

"You wouldn't expect him to get hit across the head and fall down. I'd hope he stands up and fights," said Hall. "To see that fight out of him is good to see."

Said Mitchell: "No one on the team wants a guy who will back down and lets someone push him around."

Afterward, Zorn said the fights weren't exactly what he had in mind. "It expended needless energy. It shows intensity, but that's the only thing I like about it."

Overall, though, he said he was pleased with the effort Sunday. "What I needed to see is what I did see," he said.

By Rick Maese  |  August 16, 2009; 11:45 AM ET
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Not sure if Sonof was writing about the fact they won, or that the QB played well? My guess is the fact he played well, and oh by the way, they won and in doing so scored 27 points. No team ever wants to lay a goose egg. Not during drills, scrimmages, preseason or regular season. To win preseason games is insignificant, but to play well while you're in there and move the team and score, that's what is important.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | August 16, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Studs and Duds
Examiner Staff Writer
08/16/09 12:04 PM EDT

DT Cornelius Griffin. Destroyed Devin Clark on one play and knocked Edwin Williams to the ground on another. He should beat these two, but it still was an impressive show of strength. He beat Casey Rabach twice in one-on-ones. First, it was with leverage and a strong base; next he used a good rip move to get inside him.
WR Malcolm Kelly. Continues to look more comfortable in practice, which means he's starting to be more effecitve running routes and catching passes. Made a few grabs this morning, including one over the middle on a tipped ball. Managed to reach back for it and not break stride.
RG Randy Thomas. Had a strong day. In the one-on-ones, stoned Phillip Daniels twice. It was classic Randy: good strong base, good punch.
DT Albert Haynesworth. In the one-on-ones he completely knocked Derrick Dockery off-balance, causing him to lean completely to his left. Haynesworth also loves making comments after these battles, sometimes complaining about the linemen (see below) or other times just telling guys how much they need to get to the quarterback.
RB Clinton Portis. Had a long run in 11-on-11 work; might have scored in a real game.

Posted by: TWISI | August 16, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

LT Jeremy Bridges. Still not best suited for this side, but that's the spot Washington is in because no one else is either. Brian Orakpo got around him easliy. Renaldo Wynn also beat him, getting inside. Rob Jackson got him in the one-on-ones by stepping out then slicing inside; Bridges lunged too much.
DT Anthony Montgomery. Did not stay low enough on too many plays, which allowed Derrick Dockery to stand him up a couple times. In the one-on-ones, Monty had one tough matchup vs. Will Montgomery (though Albert Haynesworth yelled to Will Montgomery to stop holding, ''They'll call that [bleep] in the game!'' Anthony Montgomery did have good leverage vs. Rueben Riley on his next rush.
OL D'Anthony Batiste. Allowed Jackson to get underneath his pads on a rush to the outside. Jackson showed good body lean on the play. Batiste had problems on other snaps, too.
CB Doug Dutch. Was beaten bad enough by Marko Mitchell in a one-on-one drill that even though Mitchell had to slow up on his go-route to wait for Jason Campbell's pass, Dutch was still several yards away.

Play of the day
Jason Campbell threw a deep corner route to Antwaan Randle El, who appeared to have Kareem Moore beaten. Randle El had to make a slight adjustment and reached back for the ball around his hip. The ball bounced up and as Randle El fell to the ground, the ball hit his hand and popped up again and Moore grabbed it for an interception. The pass traveled approximately 40 yards in the air.

Posted by: TWISI | August 16, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse


"You cut him (ARE) when you have a better prospect. Until then, you keep him."

True, very true.

And you have to wonder at the skill that teams like the stillers and iggles have when they can determine a guy is past his prime and release him so he can sign a big deal and underperform elsewhere.

Example: This past season, the stillers let N Washington go--he was the guy they promoted to fill ARE's shoes--to get L Sweed on the field with S Holmes.

Skins' fan issues with ARE really are the end result of sorry talent management that overpays, over reaches for pastprime players, and underdevelopes drafted players.

We hate on ARE, but there is no developed drafted replacement.

Talent, your evaluation is right on the mark--and that's your talent.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 16, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

That surgery is used to extend the careers of old guys. It never holds up for more then a year or two.
Posted by: drpolarbear | August 16, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Don't tell that to Greg Oden or Amare Stoudemire, they'd be pissed:

"There are things about this that are positive for Greg. First of all he is young. The area where the damage was is small and the rest of his knee looked normal. All those are good signs for a complete recovery from micro fracture surgery." --according to the Trailblazers team physician.

Stoudemire was still the leading the team in scoring and rebounding. Stoudemire started for the winning Western Conference in the 2009 NBA All-Star Game.

Stoudemire underwent microfracture surgery on October 18, 2005.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 16, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY email add ?

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 16, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

It seemed like Blache was a little mellow after the game to the medial, glad the team gets a different side from him. And Zorn said the S-word? Swords?!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 16, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY email add ? Danny boy is sill paying hime anyway. Let's bring him in to fix this Mes.

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 16, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY email add ? Danny boy is sill paying him anyway. Let's bring him in to fix this Mes.

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 16, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have MARTY email add ? Danny boy is sill paying him anyway. Let's bring him in to fix this Mes.

Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 16, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

It seemed like Blache was a little mellow after the gamePosted by: RomoLongballs to the medial
Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 16, 2009 12:23 PM


Posted by: FIREJIMZORN | August 16, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"...And Zorn said the S-word?"

Jim Zorn used profanity?

Perhaps he's auditioning for FOX's new reality show: "Christians Gone Wild!!"

I wonder which word he used?

a. sugar
b. sack
c. sh!t
d. sup?
e. sh!thead
f. saint
g. smiley
h. sh!tfaced
i. swallow
j. snafu
k. suck (as in this post does)

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 16, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"Because we played only [10] plays, that's not enough to get into a rhythm," Campbell said. "I thought I made some sound decisions. I went to the fourth progression on the first play, and it feels good knowing you can get to that."

Mark Sanchez already has the Jets playbook down, according to their reporters and looked good in the game, making QUICK reads and delivering the ball...1st pass was a 48yard pass setting up a TD drive!
Wish we had a QB that would do that, or a magic wand that would make JC do that.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | August 16, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Swallow, moe. It was definitely swallow. As in, "Hall! You suck! And Mitchell, you swallow!!" You definitely can't back down after that one's thrown at you. Zorn lightin fires...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 16, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 16, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Clearly the S-word Zorn used was soft. You may be familiar with the use of that word from your lady friends...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

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