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Green, Monk Elected

Mark Maske calls this update in from Phoenix:
Former Washington Redskins teammates Darrell Green and Art Monk were elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame today.
Green and Monk were elected as part of a six-member class that also includes Andre Tippett, Gary Zimmerman, Fred Dean, and Emmitt Thomas.
Former Redskins guard Russ Grimm was not elected.
"This is incredible," Green said. "It's just so special."
Green was elected in his first year of Hall of Fame eligibility, while Monk gets in after several years of fierce debate and election day rejections.

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE
(From washingtonpost.com editors)
Make sure you check out all the Green/Monk coverage:
- Video on Green's selection
- Video on Monk's selection
- Green/Monk photo gallery
- Darrell Green's reaction in blog form
- Mike Wise column on Art Monk
- More stories here, here, and here.

And, finally, a video with some comments from Dan Snyder on the coaching search here ... make of them what you will.

By Cindy Boren  |  February 2, 2008; 3:11 PM ET
 
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Comments

I'm going on a cruise the day after the HOF inductions. I swear, if Monk & Green get in, there's no way I can't work in a stop in Canton before I head to the cruise ship.

Posted by: JustMe | February 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

first

Posted by: chillsonic | February 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Rod Woodson is letting Adam Schefter have it about the flawed selection system. Schefter used to vote. Woodson says the voters are narrow minded :)

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

they should all be locks. top 5...i'll take it.

Posted by: tenniz | February 2, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Um...why aren't there any voters from the Post? That can't help.

Posted by: jespider89 | February 2, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

matt mosley is saying on his ESPN blog he has heard 10 got in...which would be a positive sign i think...

also that the biggest fight was Taglibou....also a good sign...

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

10 people? I thought 6 was the max...

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

6 is the max. I think there might be a provision for a 7th candidate if he's an old-timer...not sure, though.

Don't forget Emmitt Thomas in all of this. If he gets in as well, that would mean one more 'Skins player/coach in the HOF.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 2, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Selection Criteria:
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/SelectionProcessFAQ.jsp

"between 4 and 7" new inductees every year.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

i stand corrected...thanks!

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

i really hope Monk gets in....its such a joke....

Dr. Z i will take back 25 years of bashing you if you lift the ban....

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Len Shapiro is a voter. I guess he technically dosen't work for the Paper Post. But he does write articles on the web Post.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

They just have to get in.....I've already bought my tickets to the ceremony.....

Posted by: dchandl3 | February 2, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Ah. Ok. Thanks for the clarification, 4th. I just read Shapiro's piece today, and was about to ask, "What about Shapiro?"

Posted by: freakzilla | February 2, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

i really hope Monk gets in....its such a joke....

Dr. Z i will take back 25 years of bashing you if you lift the ban....

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 03:48 PM

F Dr Z and the horse he rode in on...for that matter F Len P and all the other D-Bags who refuse to look at the cold hard facts and vote Monk in. He should have been in years ago and I, for one, refuse to believe he will not be elected before long by the majority of writers who will finall see the light. THIS YEAR!!

HAIL SKINS, HAIL ART MONK, HALL OF FAMER

cosmofla

Posted by: squashmo | February 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

cosmo,

i agree...just saving my full court venom press until the list is out...

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Dr Z has said THIS YEAR he is going to vote for James Arthur Monk. We shall see

Posted by: roweq | February 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Schefter said only 1 wide receiver will get in...and SHOCKER - he does not think it will be Cris Carter this year...actually said Monk has a better chance although Cris will get in at some point.

Rod Woodson CONTINUES to say how worthy Art Monk is....

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Big Upps to Rod Woodson, also like his bigger point about the selection process....hope it doesn't hurt him when his time comes...

the arguements against Monk are almost to silly to believe...

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

How can you retire as the alltime receptions leader and not be a first year lock?

I believe the voters are beginning to see Monk's many accomplishments - I will be stunned if he does not get in this go-around.

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

CBT...i hope i am wrong...but be prepared to be stunned

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

If Monk gets in, we'll have to find another thing to complain about... but what? (tongue in cheek)


Posted by: Dorf | February 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

btw, nfl.com is carrying the HoF announcements live at 4:30.

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

dorf, c'mon....you know we never complain about anything :)....and we all get along so well....:)

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

absolutely absurd he is not in. Not only was he number 1 at retirement (actualy he was 2, rice past him just before he retired, but nonetheless was #1 for a very long time), held the record for most receptions in a season, but he also had the reception streak that people forget. Also, the most impressive stat is the number of receptions caught for 1st downs. It really is ridiculous he is not in. Also, while I love Darrell Green, I really can't understand why he would be a first ballot if monk is not. He played longer than Monk but in no way has the stats Monk did to support him. He should be in, but I just don't think his credentials are more than Monks.

Posted by: rusty.allen | February 2, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

....Wait for it... Wait for it....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Just open the envelope!

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Green and Monk are top 5!!!!!

Posted by: pgustav | February 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Art Monk Finally!!!! Of course DG #28! Its a Redskins Hall!!!!

Posted by: csquaredskins | February 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Green and Monk are in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rusty.allen | February 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!!!

Posted by: pgustav | February 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

WOOOOOHOOOOOOO

Posted by: hobbes9 | February 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Dean, Green!!!!, Mink!!!!, Thomas!!!!, Tippett, and Zimmerman

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

weeeeeeeeeeeee both made it

Posted by: rbdsmittydc | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

GREEN AND MONK ARE IN!!!!!

Posted by: rawk | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

2008 Enshrinees:
Fred Dean
Darrell Green
Art Monk
Emmitt Thomas
Andre Tippett
Gary Zimmerman

Wooooohoooooo!

Congrats Art, Darrell, and Emmitt!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

yes!

Posted by: jm220 | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Hip Hip....

Hooraaay!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Classy props out to Monk by Eisen

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Art Monk and Darrell Green IN

Posted by: roweq | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Finally!!! Hail Skins!!!!

Posted by: mdvj | February 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

yes!!!!!!!!!!!! finally.

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the REDSKINS!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wonderlandinstallers | February 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Dean, Green!!!!, Mink!!!!, Thomas!!!!, Tippett, and Zimmerman

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 04:36 PM


Monk, too!

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the Redskins! Hail to these truly great men!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hold it together Darrell. It's too early for me to boo hoo.

Posted by: mdvj | February 2, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Wooo HOOO!
#81 long over due

Posted by: COskins | February 2, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Something good after a very painful year. Now all I need is for us not to make Fassel the HC

Posted by: jm220 | February 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Road Trip!

Who's coming?

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Excellent!

Posted by: suz | February 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Green and Monk in - what a throwback to a day when all was so right with our Skins. Both epitomized great talent together with hard work and humility in a franchise that always seemed to get more from its players than perhaps they had, individually. I miss it. Looked like those days were back until just a month ago. No we are back in the "let's buy a championship" days.

Posted by: scook121 | February 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Just bought 4 for the event! I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rusty.allen | February 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Uhhhhh...is this his induction speech...?

Posted by: gdennie | February 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah-yeah-yeah. Finally Art gets his due!

Posted by: twirler332004 | February 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I got 4 tickets!!! I can't wait!!!!

Posted by: JustMe | February 2, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

They need to make D Green a coach.

Posted by: jm220 | February 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Monk and Green! Grimm got robbed. How can you have a football hall of fame with no Hogs?

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | February 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Green & esp Monk. It was a long time coming. I've never been to the Hall of Fame before, it looks like its time to start making plans.

Posted by: curtmcgurt | February 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

YESSSSSSS MMMMMAAAAAANNNNNN!

-ArtMonkToTheHALL!

I am so happy today. My childhood is validated.

AMTTS

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | February 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

When you ordered the tix, do you get seat number?

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

drouhier I am really happy for your brother. You have been on here pushing for Monk more than anyone.

Posted by: jm220 | February 2, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

When you order, it tells you exactly where you are sitting. $59 a ticket. Buy them up!

Posted by: rusty.allen | February 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

It' about time Art got into the HOF. I was beginning to think the whole thing was fixed, which it probably is. Congratulations to Darrell too. Much deserved for both of you.

I'm not a current fan of pro sports but when these guys played, I was as rabid a 'skins fan as ever existed.

Posted by: mortified469 | February 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

AT LAST!!!! Glory Hallelujah!! AT LAST!!

Posted by: mi-ti-bear | February 2, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Skins fans don't have much to be happy about these days so this was the best news in a long time.

Congrats to Art and Darrell !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

He finally made it!

Congrats Art!

AND Darrell!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

YAAAAAAA HOOOOOOOOOO!

Congrats Art Monk! Finally!

Yay Darrell!

Posted by: MNSkinsFan | February 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Justice has been served! All of the autographs I got in RFK parking lot, the next ones I get will be in Canton followed by HOF 2008!

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | February 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

AMTTS, time to change the moniker. I'd suggest AMTTHOF

Great day. Long in coming.

HAIL

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am just THRILLED that Art Monk made it after all these years of waiting. One of the classiest guys ever to wear a Redskins uniform, both on and off the field -- like his teammate Darrell Green.

With Art, Darrell and Fred Dean (plus coach Emmitt Thomas), it's a Redskins year at the HOF. Applause!!!!!

Posted by: daltongang13 | February 2, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Time to put in the Hogs: Grimm, Jacoby, and Bostic. Can I get an Amen?

Posted by: macaro | February 2, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

"Mr." Snyder...on the NFLN set in just a moment...

Vinny spotted in the audience talking to Doug Williams.

Maybe Doug's going to be our new head coach...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

This is AWESOME!

I've started making plans to attend. My two favorite players of all time inducted on the same day? How could I not be there? :)

The tentative plan is to fly from Seattle to Pittsburgh, get picked up by my dad who'll be driving from VA, and take it from there. Probably spend Fri. & Sat. night in Pittsburgh, and fly home on Sunday. I'm holding off buying tickets for a day or two until we find out if one of my step-mom's sons (Bears fan) wants to join us. My step-mom's uncle was Bill George, inducted into the HOF in '74:

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=73

Posted by: freakzilla | February 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

NFL Network just said Darrell and SNYDER are going to talk with them next....interesting to see if anyone asks Snyder about the debacle of our coaching search.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Eat it Chris Cater!

Posted by: HankTheCat | February 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

About darn time...

Posted by: psubuzz | February 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

CLASS ACTS! AMEN. Thank you Art and Darrell.

Posted by: fladung | February 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I just got my tickets for the ceremony... hope ohio isn't bad in august!

Posted by: rawk | February 2, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Answered prayers. Darrell Green and Art Monk are two of the classiest gentlemen that ever put on an NFL uniform. We were blessed to have them here.

Posted by: vintage51 | February 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Two class acts. Congrats!

Posted by: Holcombe1 | February 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow. What a day, and what an honor. Congrats to two of my three favorite Redskins. Sadly the third (Champ Bailey) will not go in as a Redskin.
Great job guys and well deserved. The drought has ended.

Posted by: RollyMac | February 2, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY! It now becomes the Hall of Fame rather than the Hall of Shame. Congrats Art and Darrell. Now would you please make your jerseys available and affordable so us fans can wear them with pride!!!

Posted by: kickinblonde | February 2, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm holding off buying tickets for a day or two until we find out if one of my step-mom's sons (Bears fan) wants to join us. My step-mom's uncle was Bill George, inducted into the HOF in '74:

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=73

Posted by: freakzilla | February 2, 2008 05:33 PM

Freak, you better get the tix now if you plan on buying Floor Seats. A magority of those have been brought up. I just waited 30 minutes on the phone.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Snyder said he was very close to Sean Taylor. Snyder was also asked if he was going to hire Mooch....he was very evasive about who he plans to hire or WHEN. Darrell was asked if he has advised Snyder who to hire and he said "we'll talk about it" and then laughed....

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

interesting to see if anyone asks Snyder about the debacle of our coaching search.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 05:33 PM

Wait a minute. You're saying the coaching search is a debacle? Why hasn't Jasno posted anything about this?

I hope the press has the good grace to stay away from this. Today is the day to celebrate Art and Darrell, not to try to poke Mr. "Snyder" in the eye. But, knowing the media...

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm so happy for Monk and Green, especially Monk. I never had more respect for two Redskins' players as I do these two outstanding players and men, and that's coming from a life long Cowboys' fan. Again, congrats to these OUTSTANDING Men!!

Posted by: dauphins | February 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Time to put in the Hogs: Grimm, Jacoby, and Bostic. Can I get an Amen?

Posted by: macaro | February 2, 2008 05:28 PM

Amen!

Posted by: skinfanman | February 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Better late than never! Who would've thought I'd be cheering on a Super Bowl weekend when the Skins weren't playing?! Anybody know how to score tix to the ceremony in Canton?

Posted by: countystyle | February 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinfanman | February 2, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

As I stated above, Schefter did ask Snyder about the coaching search.....basically ask if they (the NFL Network) were going to lose Steve Mariucci. Schefter was not rude at all.

I have a question I hope someone can answer (Cindy?)....if the Skins organization is not talking to any media outlet about who they plan to hire....and I'm sure they have instructed the candidates to keep their mouths shut...how in the world does John Clayton get inside info? Clayton STILL INSISTS the Skins will hire Fassel next week :(

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

This is GREAT news! The HOF finally got it right. Best news this off season. I'll make a trip for this.

Posted by: bfjam | February 2, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

countystyle, go to profootballhof.com and you can preorder tickets.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 2, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

yes......

Posted by: Oldschool | February 2, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Here's to hopin' that this is the turn in the karmic wheel for our squad. Gotta love #81. Darryl and Emmitt definitely deserved it too.

Posted by: LarryBud | February 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Time to put in the Hogs: Grimm, Jacoby, and Bostic. Can I get an Amen?

Posted by: macaro | February 2, 2008 05:28 PM

Amen!

Posted by: skinfanman | February 2, 2008 05:59 PM

Amen... and Starks and May! Maybe not so much Bostic, though and don't forget Donny Warren!

Posted by: LarryBud | February 2, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

AWE. SOME.

Posted by: jvwright | February 2, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

OOHHH and Raliegh McKenzie and Jim Lachey and maybe Mark Schlereth... Ok maybe not.

Posted by: LarryBud | February 2, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Art and Darrell, and big BOO to WBAL TV in Baltimore. When the sportscaster reported the induction, the station showed highlights of Darrell in his only uniform, and Art in an iggles uniform. How gauche is that.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

It still baffles me that a man who was the league's all-time leading receiver and played on 4 Super Bowl teams at the time of his retirement was not a first ballot inductee. The only saving grace is now that he is finally in, he gets to go in with a longtime teammate. Congrats to 2 of the greatest Skins, on and off the field, in the history of the franchise. Long overdue for one and well deserved for both.

Posted by: tkss | February 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I was watching the press conference online, and I was absolutely euphoric when I heard the names "Darrell Green" and more importantly "Art Monk." It's about time. Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: putiao | February 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

That is so big...this is a great day for all redskins fans, because these last few weeks have been slightly for stressful...Man i'm trying to get some people together to try and go down there.

Posted by: lil_rj1 | February 2, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Got my Tix - See you all in Canton

Posted by: mi-ti-bear | February 2, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

4th, supreme thanks for the heads-up on tix. I successfully ordered 2 on the floor. Apparently you can't buy 3 on the floor, just in the stands. Makes sense, I guess. Step-mom's son didn't get back to my dad in time, so I had to pull the trigger. I have the benefit of having three computers at arm's length, so I was able to jump from one to the other to keep trying to get the best seats possible. Ended up with section 33, an upgrade from section 37. The tickets are ordered and paid for, and I'm psyched. Super-psyched, even. :)

Posted by: freakzilla | February 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | February 2, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

If you click on the videos below you will hear Art and Mr Green's 2 minute speeches. Both are so elegant and Darryl is able to sum up being a redskin in a few sentences.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Beathard, who Sports Illustrated once called "the smartest man in the NFL" has now drafted two HOFs in Green and Monk and hired a third in Gibbs. He will have a fourth after Junior Seau retires. Why won't the Danny hire Bobby?

Posted by: slidd | February 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Okay who was the greater roll model for the Washington/ Baltimore Metropolitan Area in the 80's-90's Green, Monk or Cal?

Posted by: alex35332 | February 2, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Finally something to be happy about as a Skins fan.

Congrats to D. Green for a first ballot selection. And congrats to A. Monk for finally making it to the HOF and for being so professional all those years he was snubbed.

I'll enjoy this for 2 days then go back to the realization that this franchise is a joke when Fassel is named HC.

-Rick Bob

Posted by: johnw | February 2, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

From Wiki.

Bobby Beathard
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bobby Beathard is a former general manager in the National Football League. Over the course of his 38 years, his teams competed in seven Super Bowls (winning four times), beginning with the Kansas City Chiefs in 1966, Miami Dolphins in 1972 and 1973, Washington Redskins in 1982, 1983, and 1987, and the San Diego Chargers in 1994.
Beathard first joined pro football in 1963 as a part-time scout for the Kansas City Chiefs. He left the Chiefs briefly to scout for the American Football League and returned to Kansas City full-time after the AFL-NFL merger in 1966. He earned his first championship ring as a member of the 1966 Chiefs organization.
Beathard served as a scout for the Atlanta Falcons from 1968 through 1971. In 1972, Beathard was named director of player personnel for the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins won the following two Super Bowls. In 1978, the Washington Redskins named Beathard general manager. During his tenure in Washington, Beathard and head coach Joe Gibbs led the Redskins to three Super Bowls and two championships.
Beathard retired as general manager of the San Diego Chargers in 2002 after 10 seasons with the club. In just his third season in San Diego, the organization won its first AFC Western Division championship in more than a decade and, after five years, appeared in its first Super Bowl.
Beathard's son, Casey Beathard, is a country music songwriter.[1]

Posted by: alex35332 | February 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Man, it feels good to see that a man who wouldn't play the hat-in-hand, give-the-reporter-some-face-time, ya-gotta-go-sell-yourself game can get in simply on the merits.
Kind of like when an honorable man gets elected... happens almost never, but is incredibly invigorating and ... proper when it does.

Posted by: daggar | February 2, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Great for Art and Green.

Now we just need of the O line in.

Posted by: mul | February 2, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Happy News - finally!

Posted by: mmok | February 2, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

What makes this news even better is that they kept out Carter, just months after he wrote that Monk didn't deserve to be in the Hall.

LOL!

Posted by: info | February 2, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

To answer Dorf's question...now I can complain about Grimm! He needs to get in! but I will agiate for that later!!! Today is for happiness!!!!

Finally...i am more emotional than I even expected to be...

RI Tailgate party in Canton!!!

Posted by: clawrence | February 2, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Hail To The Redskins! Two class acts and true Redskins. Hail Art Monk and Darrell Green! Well deserved honors.

Posted by: mjwies11 | February 2, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have hotel recommendations in Canton? I see on the HOF site their hotel is the Holiday Inn...any other places people recommend?

Posted by: mommyskinsfan | February 2, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Love Grimm, hope he lands a HC job and does well, maybe a Super Bowl or two because that's his path to the HOF. Jacoby was the elite Hog, hope he'll get in, but I don't see any of the others making it...

Posted by: daggar | February 2, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Hi I'm Joe Jacoby and this is my wife Irene. When I watch my friends Art Monk and Darrell Green get into the Hall of Fame, I do it on a Theater Vision.

Posted by: JustinBaker | February 2, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY!

Posted by: Dorf | February 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Please go to Canton to cheer and support Monk and Green. Haillllll to the Redskins!!!!!

Posted by: kennyvivi04 | February 2, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Hi I'm Joe Jacoby and this is my wife Irene. When I watch my friends Art Monk and Darrell Green get into the Hall of Fame, I do it on a Theater Vision.

Posted by: JustinBaker | February 2, 2008 09:16 PM

Great pull - a classic!

Posted by: CBT | February 2, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm still baffled at how Michael Irvin beat Monk into the Hall. But hey it's over now. Congrats guys!

Posted by: RambleOn | February 2, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

"I'm still baffled at how Michael Irvin beat Monk into the Hall."
The cowardly reporters figured he had a gun.

They were right.

Posted by: daggar | February 2, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey, watching the '72 skins losing to the champagne-poppers. Who's backing up Kilmer? None other than the infamous Sam Wyche.

He's been out of (head) coaching about as long as Gibbs... and as a former QB could be a great developer for JC.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your "This kinda worked last time" head coaching candidate...

Posted by: daggar | February 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Freak.....can't wait to see you there. I've 6 tickets on the floor ...row 3...and a hotel room to boot. It should be a great weekend!

Posted by: dchandl3 | February 2, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

HA Ha Mr. big mouth Cris carter can shove it up his wazoo!

Posted by: dave197391 | February 3, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

It's 1am, is Darrell's speech over yet?

Irvin got in last year, I guess he beat Darrell one last time

Posted by: SwiftIT | February 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

I know a certain middle school teacher who "borrowed" a digital projector from one of the computer labs so he can watch a 10 foot tall Tom Brady take on a 10 foot tall Eli Manning. Consequently, Brian "homeless man" Belicheat will be 10 feet tall as well. Any wardrobe malfunctions will also be 10 feet tall... let's just hope its not Tom Petty.

Posted by: Dorf | February 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

The Hall of Fame just got an upgrade in both class and quality.

Hail

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 3, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Irvin got in last year, I guess he beat Darrell one last time

Posted by: SwiftIT | February 3, 2008 01:05 AM

Guess Irvin's "injuries" and drug habit caught up with him and caused him to retire earlier, making him HOF-eligible earlier. (12 years in the NFL - retired at 33.) Elected in his third (?) year of eligibility.

Darrell Green, who is six years older than Irvin, played in the NFL for 20 years. (Came in 5 years earlier; left 3 years later.) Elected in his first year of eligibility.

So, who beat who?

Only an assclown like Norv would have ever made a comment like yours. He should be pleased, now that he has you for company.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 3, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 3, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs, who resigned Jan. 8, spoke yesterday about his role in the hiring process. "I've been purposefully kind of standing back because I didn't think I should be talking while the process is taking place. But I also think that some people have taken that the wrong way, that I had a problem with the process, and that's not the case at all."

Staff writers Jason Reid in Washington, and Les Carpenter and Mark Maske in Phoenix, contributed to this report.


Posted by: leevi98 | February 3, 2008 3:32 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs, who resigned Jan. 8, spoke yesterday about his role in the hiring process. "I've been purposefully kind of standing back because I didn't think I should be talking while the process is taking place. But I also think that some people have taken that the wrong way, that I had a problem with the process, and that's not the case at all."

Staff writers Jason Reid in Washington, and Les Carpenter and Mark Maske in Phoenix, contributed to this report.


Posted by: leevi98 | February 3, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs, who resigned Jan. 8, spoke yesterday about his role in the hiring process. "I've been purposefully kind of standing back because I didn't think I should be talking while the process is taking place. But I also think that some people have taken that the wrong way, that I had a problem with the process, and that's not the case at all."

Staff writers Jason Reid in Washington, and Les Carpenter and Mark Maske in Phoenix, contributed to this report.


Posted by: leevi98 | February 3, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

leevi98

I don't want to piss on the good news blog but.....

"But I also think that some people have taken that the wrong way, that I had a problem with the process, and that's not the case at all"

Did you see anywhere in the story that Gibbs said they were doing a good job? This is what we call political speak don't lie just don't say anything bad. They were going to put in a 3-4 (which is stupid for this team with two old and one injured starting LB). They got rid of Sanders for Zorn (stupid but arguable). ect. ect. ect. Oh yes Vinny is the GM.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 5:09 AM | Report abuse

Here's the question of the day for all of us:

Only ONE number has been officially retired in the history of the framchise (#33, Sammy Baugh).

Do #81 and #28 deserve to be officially retired? Answer dispassionately.

Discuss.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 5:15 AM | Report abuse

My answer: yes.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 5:16 AM | Report abuse

It makes me sick to see that low class f head with our great player D Green during the hall of fame news. He had nothing to do with D Green or Monk getting in.

F U Snyder - bring in Fassel and let the good times role.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 5:16 AM | Report abuse

I say NO.

Retire ST number.

Think about 50 years from now we won't have any numbers left if you do two a decade.

We have the ring of fame.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

Think about 50 years from now we won't have any numbers left if you do two a decade.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 05:20 AM

Wait! We're down to 10 numbers? :)

Maybe Vinny can trade our 2nd and 3rd this year to Cleveland for their unretired numbers--they've got bunches...

Posted by: HogsHead | February 3, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

I think that #28 should be retired. He was a lifelong Redskin, an all decade player, and a first time hall of famer. Given the totality of his accomplishments, I could see retiring his number. While Monk was an outstanding player and deserved to be in the hall of fame, I don't think he reaches Green's level of impact to the Redskin and the NFL in general.

Posted by: mdvj | February 3, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Lets retire vinnyDAN's number.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

This will be the last piece of good news for the skins for the next 27 years. So lets enjoy.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Can you all believe that vinnyDAN was about to get Fassel to be the coach in 2004 after the ball coach. Four years transpired, Fassel was fired, and nothing better came along than Fassel. Wow just Wow. Unless the Giants win then another coach will tell vinnyDAN to go to hill and Fassel will still be the HC.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Give the Snyder-bashing a rest for one day....damn, at least do it on another post.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 3, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I watched Art Monk play his entire career here in DC -- I don't remember him making a single big play when the game was on the line -- they always went elsewhere when a game needed to be won -- he should never have been elected to the HOF

Posted by: bestmick1 | February 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Do #81 and #28 deserve to be officially retired? Answer dispassionately.

Discuss.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 05:15 AM

Before retiring them they should retire #9, #42 and #49. Maybe also #43 and #44. But the Redskins have had a policy about retiring numbers. There is one number that should be retired in a ceremony at the home opener: #21.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 3, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

f bestmick1

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Art Monk was finally voted in and deservedly so. He should have gone in a long time ago.

There were multiple reasons why he went in this time. One was that the voters decided they'd make up for several deserving players like Fred Dean and Andre Tippett. But also I think there was a lot of sympathy for the Redskins this time. The way the organization handled the Taylor tragedy with class and inspiration impressed the entire football world and, I think, allowed voters to consider all things Redskin in a different light.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 3, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I like the idea of what the skins do with most the numbers now. #33 is the only retired number every other number is simply a do not wear number. I think the policy should be numbers are designated as off limits unless a player goes to the "owner" of that number in person and asks for permission like Campbell did with Doug Williams.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I do agree though if you were to retire any number for the skins it would be 28. All the great players we have been mentioned but I many of them played for more then one team and soforth.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I do agree though if you were to retire any number for the skins it would be 28. All the great players we have been mentioned but I many of them played for more then one team and soforth.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 10:51 AM

This strikes me as a comment by someone who did not see the Redskins of the 60s and early 70s.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 3, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

i like the idea of not retiring numbers (save sean taylor) as a rule, that then eliminates debate which gets old...


The ring of honor does the same thing i feel.

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

NFL Network just reports that Gregg Williams was talking to the Cowboys now. WTF!

Posted by: isonic1 | February 3, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Should the Redskins retire #28 and #81?

No. I agree with the poster who said that a new player should ask the former owner of that number for permission to wear that number. A new player hopefully would look at the ring of honor and measure himself honestly to that person before asking. The team and staff itself has a collective memory that judges the worthiness of allowing a player take a famous number.

Remember that the Redskins have been here for 75 years! For most bloggers that is about 45 years older than their living memory span. Starting to retire numbers would weight the process to the most recent in memory and would lessen the accomplishments of those who preceeded them, who may have been as influential in their own time but whose memory has faded with the passing of those fans.

Posted by: driley | February 3, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I am sure to catch hell for this next idea. I do not believe that #21 should be retired either. We are at this time still emotionally ragged in all aspects of Sean Taylor. I do wish that we not issue that number for a period of time. Nor do I think that any present Redskin would take on the burden of playing with that number at the present. To me the best way to honor the player and the number would be hold #21 for the player who in the future that plays most in the style of Sean Taylor AND exhibits the character to be a team leader. Then the number #21 would be awarded as a mantle for that player to wear and would be a living reminder and tribute to Sean Taylor. (The example that comes to mind if he were to reincarnate into another player would be Kenny Houston.) Of course that player would have to change his own number in a public ceremony but I think that would give far higher dignity and importance to #21.

Posted by: driley | February 3, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Gregg Williams to the Cowboys!!?!!!?!

I hate to say it but there would be some sort of twisted justice to this. Slapping Snyder's face twice a year would have to feel good for double g.

He should've been ours. Freaking Snyder.

Posted by: jcarter999 | February 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

WOOHOO! Late in the game today (was getting on the plane to Texas when the HOF was announced, but was on the phone with my sister, so I knew the good news before my three hour flight!)

Anyway, are you sure that #33 has been retired? I thought that we had not retired ANY numbers.

I also agree - I think that the "unofficial" number retiring works now.

Posted by: suzannepdc | February 3, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh and proudly wearing my #28 jersey at the bar here tonight (my #81 is too big and it will look like I have on no pants -it's about 75 there today - nice change from DC lately!)

Posted by: suzannepdc | February 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

suzannepdc,
Pulled this from Wikipedia's page on the skins

Retired numbers
33 Sammy Baugh, QB-S-P, 1937-52
[edit]Unofficial retired numbers
The Redskins' policy since Baugh's retirement has been to not retire numbers. However, some numbers are unofficially retired and are usually withheld from being assigned to new players. The following numbers of past Redskin greats fall into that category.
7 Joe Theismann, QB, 1974-85
9 Sonny Jurgensen, QB, 1964-74
28 Darrell Green, CB, 1983-2002
42 Charley Taylor, WR, 1964-77
43 Larry Brown, RB, 1969-76
44 John Riggins, RB, 1976-79, 1981-85
49 Bobby Mitchell, RB, 1962-68
51 Monte Coleman, LB, 1979-94
65 Dave Butz, DT, 1975-88
70 Sam Huff, LB, 1964-69 (Worn by Leonard Marshall in 1993)
81 Art Monk, WR, 1980-93
84 Gary Clark, WR, 1985-92
The use of unofficial retired numbers drew controversy during Steve Spurrier's first year as head coach[36] Quarterbacks Danny Wuerffel and Shane Matthews first wore 7 and 9 respectively during training camp. The resulting sports talk furor led to them switching to 17 and 6.[36] During the season, reserve tight end Leonard Stephens wore number 49 for the season. After his retirement as assistant GM, Bobby Mitchell blasted the team, accusing late owners Edward Bennett Williams and Jack Kent Cooke of racism for not being considered for GM and was upset that the team would let a player like Leonard Stephens wear his number.[37]

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

But I would have thought that Shane Matthews' performance as a Redskins quarterback would have earned him the right to wear #9 a la Sonny.

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 3, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Alex - thanks for the info.

Posted by: suzannepdc | February 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

What makes this news even better is that they kept out Carter, just months after he wrote that Monk didn't deserve to be in the Hall.

LOL!

Posted by: info | February 2, 2008 08:13 PM

Anyone have a link to this?

Posted by: RedBee | February 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

So now to get to my point earlier. A lot of our great players who's numbers have been unofficially retired played in places other then DC. I think a prerequisite of an official number retirement should be playing your entire career on the Redskins.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

alex,

i see the merits in that idea, but, look at Monk he wanted to finish his career here but that geek Norv ousted him...so why would that reflect negatively on Monk?

Riggins we got from somewhere...

In the transient NFL, that idea could never stand, the DGs are done. DG was even weird for his era...

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Mitchell blasted the team, accusing late owners Edward Bennett Williams and Jack Kent Cooke of racism for not being considered for GM and was upset that the team would let a player like Leonard Stephens wear his number.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 12:48 PM

Did Bobby Mitchell have a screw loose?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Give the Snyder-bashing a rest for one day....damn, at least do it on another post.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 3, 2008 09:55 AM

Or at least wait until after he's actually hired a new coach.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Mitchell blasted the team, accusing late owners Edward Bennett Williams and Jack Kent Cooke of racism for not being considered for GM and was upset that the team would let a player like Leonard Stephens wear his number.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 12:48 PM

Did Bobby Mitchell have a screw loose?
Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 01:17 PM


Not sure, I just pulled that from Wiki.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

alex,

I just looked up "loose screw" on Wikipedia. Fortunately, it didn't have a picture of Bobby Mitchell. So, maybe this was taken out of context.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

That is some good quick thinking there TE. Buy the way how do you rate the Talent on the blog these days? It seems that things here are dead.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

alex,

It seems to me the blog has calmed down since the coaching search went into hibernation mode. Before that there were a lot of people I hadn't seen before with deep-seated anger and a lynch mob mentality. Some of the regulars seem to be MIA.

That said, I always find something interesting up here. Sometimes it's about the Redskins.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the mooch supposed to be interviewing right now?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Mooch is on the NFL Network set right now. I just saw him live a few minutes ago.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Drive-by post....

YAHOO for Monk and Green!! Two outstanding athletes and teamates and two class acts on and off the field.

The HOF induction ceremony will be awesome because of all the Skins who will be there. Great day. Great day.

Get better MW.

Go Giants (cough splutter cough) Go Giants.

Posted by: sfskin | February 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO! For Monk! Great day!

Yippeee for Green too!

Posted by: cmecyclist | February 3, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Good God... Adam Schefter just said Charles Grant, who plays for the Saints, was stabbed in the neck last night. Apparently, a pregnant woman was shot and killed in the same night club altercation.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Conflicting reports on that. I just read that Grant is actually in Houston this altercation was in New Orleans.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

correction the altrication was in ATL.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

correction the altrication was in ATL.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh for crying out loud. I want to watch some football pre-game and Fox has GOD DAMN Ryan Secrest doing a celebrity Red Carpet for the game. when I want to watch football the last person I ever want to see is f***ing Secrest. Does anyone think that Secrest can throw a ball?

The Super Bowl is jumped the shark.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Mitchell does not have a screw loose. The Redskins were the last team to have a black player (Mitchell) and that's pathetic. Then Mitchell is part of the organization for many years, makes the Hall of Fame, is in the admin but is never considered up for the GM position. They'd give him an "assistant" GM title but whenever the head GM position came up, they never approached him...and this was when there was no black GM in the league.

and no, i'm not saying he should have been hired because he was black. But you can see his frustration with the franchise but he was ALWAYS a loyal, class act. and then for them to allow some random player (Leonard Stephens) to wear his unofficially retired number was just bogus.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 3, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

alex my man the SB jumped the shark in the 70's!!!

bobby mitchell can feel whatever he wants in my book, and i support him!

chris LaRrY....OUT!

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

OMG! Did you just see the clip of Ronnie Lott? Talk about bring the wood.

Posted by: jm220 | February 3, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

jm2Fruity,

are you obsessed with "wood" and bringing it?

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

For the record the Redskins integration question is an unusual one to me. I don't dispute it in terms of African american players they were the last team to have a player. But the team had integrated prior to that in terms of minorities having had a Native American Head coach in 1933.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

alex, I think "Lone Star" Dietz's claims to a Native American heritage are dubious at best.

In any event, Bobby Mitchell knows full well the history of the Redskins, and I would be loathe to question his authority on the circumstances of his acquisition and career as a player and his time in the front office.

And for Dan Snyder to have let Mitchell be humiliated by seeing his number worn by some nobody, and then let him leave the organization without (from what we know) doing anything to make it right, was nothing short of a disgrace, and remains one of the biggest blemishes (and that's saying something!) on the Snyder regime.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Interesting thoughts on the Snyder/Ceratto/Swanson connection:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34513

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I read the article in the link above, and guess eveyone is tryign to make it evident that Dan snyder is a bad guy.

I as a fan have sat back had blinders on when it came to how things operated. I guess unitl he goes hout the
Skins won't win.

Posted by: lilagram | February 3, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The Six Flags investment has gone south, but it's not as bad as City Paper claims. Snyder bought most of his stock near the previous bottom -- $3 to $6 a share -- not the $12 peak that the story is premised on. The stock did rose in anticipation of his turning the company around, and has subsequently sunk to around $2.

A lot of the value of Six Flags is based on the real estate holdings. They could shut the parks and sell the land for more than the value of the stock. Real estate has sunk, and the stock with it. But you've got to wonder where Vinnie and Swanson came up with money to buy into Six Flags in a big way -- they probably have some loans out.

Very ugly.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances Chris Samuels and Clinton Portis make the HOF?

If Portis ave 1200 yds a year for 4 more years he'll be in the top 10 all time!

Posted by: jhess18 | February 3, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

It is a masterful theory on why Cartio has a job. Very good research there. I got to wonder if there isn't a grain of truth in it. Snyder is hesitant to fire someone who he is co-owners with in his Six Flags venture, totally logical.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I think if CP gets over 15,000 all purpose he is in.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

It is a masterful theory on why Cartio has a job.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 05:11 PM

I think it could explain why he has a job, but not why he has the important job that he's got. Dan could put him on the payroll as a driver for $1 million a year, and I'm sure he would if he didn't trust Vinny and think he's the best at what he does.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Vinny did a hell of a job with the 49ers. If the skins hire Mooch or Fassel and go 10-6 and make the playoffs. nobody has anything to critize about.

I just hope the skins don't trade for Chad Johnson


Hopefully Jason Campbell is our franshise QB and the organization will be on a winning roll.

Posted by: jhess18 | February 3, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

See but I think there may be something illegal doing that. Its less conspicuous if he has a Suit Exec job.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The bet here is that Darrell Green and Art Monk will go into the Hall together. If that happens, I wouldn't miss going to Canton for the induction ceremony for the world.


Posted by: barno | February 2, 2008 03:16 PM

Booyah!

Here's another Barno prediction for ya...

Giants will beat today's 12 point spread.

Posted by: barno | February 3, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Art and Darrell!!!


Today is the first time in the last 10 years that I've gone to work instead of staying home to watch the Superbowl. No interest at all, and all this talk about Spygate II is making it even worse.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of this someone should report this whole thing to the NFL's ethics committee if there is such a thing.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances Chris Samuels and Clinton Portis make the HOF?

Posted by: jhess18 | February 3, 2008 05:10 PM

Zero.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 3, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Kost, if you're at work during the Super Bowl it's because you're interested in the new Sheila in the marketing department who just started work last Thursday.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Interesting thoughts on the Snyder/Ceratto/Swanson connection:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34513


Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 04:41 PM

Most interesting.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 3, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

TE - Haha I wish! Nothing but barrel-chested blokes where I am!!

I don't like the Pats, and hope they don't go unbeaten, but who are they playing? I reckon that at the end of the regular season, if we had've ranked the playoff teams, the Giants would've been one of the worst teams through.

I know that there are a lot of people picking the Giants, but I don't see it, I think this game is going to be an absolute whitewash.

And with the Spygate II stuff going on, it's just disheartening to know the integrity of a game you love so much, could potentially be so flawed.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

kost,

You don't want to watch the first half just to see if we can get another Super Bowl III with Eli as Joe Willy Namath? You'd rather hang out with a bunch of barrell chested blokes? Probably better than barrell assed Sheilas.

Spygate II, if there turns out to be anything at all there, is about the integrity of Belichick's organization, not the game.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

The NFL really does know how to put on a show. God, I love Super Bowl Sunday.

At home with the new puppy, got pizza on the way, trying to overcome this hangover, and ready to watch the mind-numbing boredom that is the Giants getting squished by the Patriots.

Patriots 31, Giants 10.

Have fun peeps!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I suppose I'll follow it a little on the net, and if it seems close in the first half, I'll watch the replay. How long until kick-off?

If it's true, and they did cheat in the Rams Superbowl victory, how do you know they didn't in the others? All of them were close games. If they did, can you see how much they've changed things, McNabb might not be so frowned upon in Philly, TO might still be in Philly, and happy! Mike Martz might still be the Rams Head Coach, Bulger may not have ever replace Warner. I know the what if game is a silly game to play, but how do you trust that the game you're watching today, is a true match up between the two teams?

Wow, I really am in a bit of a downer mood! What's going on!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Kickoff is in approximately 11 hours. Fox has 5 other American Idol winners to trot out, along with Homer Simpson and the Prison Break guy. The Prison Break guy will be appearing alongside Kiefer Sutherland.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

What do you guys think of having Tom Petty? I'm not sure, I'm sure he's bigger over there than he is here, so it probably makes more sense to you guys. I really liked Prince, I thought his show was awesome!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

kost,

You're talking about Philly? They booed Santa Claus. If Philly won 32-10, they'd still hate McNabb. And TO? That's his problem? The Patriots taped him?

And you don't know if it's a true match-up. It's like that old question "What if the universe were only created 15 minutes ago and everything is just memories?" So what? It's the only game -- or universe -- we got.

You've been living upside down too long.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

kost--

Tom Petty? I had to try to explain to my teenage kids who he was. And I couldn't because I don't even know who he was.

It gives you an idea of the demographic they're aiming the half-time show at.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

LOL I can't say I'm a big Tom Petty fan. The only song of his I can think of off the top of my head is "Free Fallin'." Is that the one with the Alice in Wonderland type video?

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

TE - Haha, reckon the blood's rushing to my head? Might be right!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Tom Petty the racecar guy?

I think I must own an Audi R8. Like right now.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Haha I know Tom Petty best as 'the artist Red Hot Chili Peppers stole Dani California from'

....oh and he was in the Simpsons "Rock Camp' episode.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Impressive little drive here. Chris Snee is blocking his guts out.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Now, the Chili Peppers, I *do* like. They would be a great half time show.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Eli and Peyton must have changed bodies. Great play.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

The Giants are looking good so far.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Even my kids would watch the Chili Peppers.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Agree wholeheartedly. The Chili Peppers would be awesome.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Just looking up some stats, the biggest margin is 45 points, achieved twice. I'm not sure it'll get that high. I'm going with 52-10 Pats.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Bud Light's got the early lead in commercials. Next time I want some sparkling water, I'm buying a case.

Cindy, are you on duty tonight? When the cat's away...

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Best commercials so far: Audi R8, Pepsi Max (bobblehead), Bud Light (cheese run)...

Worst commercial so far: salesgenie.com

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

The Peppers would be great, but only if they rocked out with their socks out.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Full Fox synergy going on...American Idol National Anthem, a very special episode of House brought to you by NFL assistant coaches, and MySpace replays all the ads later.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I think Cindy has her hands full with Tony.

That's different than "her hands full of Tony"...

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Diddy,

For what they're paying the NFL, they've got to milk it. Is Tom Petty a Fox property? Probably they'll have Paula Abdul on stage with him.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Good flag or bad flag?

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Great call. Obvious call. Pierce tackled Watson while the ball was in the air.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

You know, I could watch Angelina Jolie in a movie about cleaning toilets.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Good to hear. Was hoping we wouldn't be having a Seahawks/Steelers repeat.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

How do you do that in a climate controlled Dome??

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Now, the Chili Peppers, I *do* like. They would be a great half time show.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 06:41 PM


Dude I heard they broke up. They are on their final tour still I think but thats the end of that.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I watched the TBS(?) Lara Croft marathon yesterday... marveling at the feats of engineering that kept looking at me.

I'm sure there was a story involved.

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

You know, I could watch Angelina Jolie in a movie about cleaning toilets.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 07:04 PM

Oh, so that was the plot.

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

....and so the Eli Manning show begins.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

no great commercials today as of yet but better than last year and the year before.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

So the commercials here are better than last year.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

LOL There's nothing I like more than seeing Tom Terrific on his ass. *giggle*

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

sorry for the double post blog broke for me... or so i thought

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Randy Moss really has disappeared in the playoffs hasn't he!!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Good quick first half. I like that, I want Tom Petty.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I take back all that I said earlier on. It looks like a good close game, maybe I'll switch off now, and watch the rest tonight.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Methinks "Mr." Snyder will be quite enamored with Spags after this game. If he ends up getting the coaching gig, the D-line is gonna be beefed up big time in the off-season.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I agree, does not matter if the Giants lose or not. Hitting the Pat's in the mouth like this, Spag's stock is rising.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Are you crying about that? I want to talk to this guy after this game...

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, it'll be interesting, IF he is hired, he obviously places a high level of importance on the D-Line, while our new DC says his philosophy all starts with the corners.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

LOL Not crying at all. If anything, salivating at the thought of having an actual pass rush.

Spags, or any good, youngish, up and coming coach, is exactly what I wanted to see if Manboobs didn't get the job.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Half time show sucks!!!!!

Posted by: jm220 | February 3, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I know, kost. Resolving that difference in philosophy would be quite interesting.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

No offense to Tom Petty, but couldn't they have picked someone, you know, younger? This is a carefully calculated selection to offend the least number of demographics possible.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I haven't read all the posts so this may have been handled, but VinnyDAN lied in that "interview" saying that people on the superbowl teams were on his original list and he could not possibly deviate from the list.

B*&&sh#t.

I don't buy it. McDaniels maybe, but Spags? And wouldn't BB tell the newest BoyWonder what a bad idea it is to go to a team and have NO power, much less the kind of power BB is used to having?

Posted by: RedBee | February 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

As Lincoln said at Super Bowl I, "The world will little note, nor long remember who we saw here..."

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Tom Petty is going younger. Before this it was The Stones and McCartney. Prince is about Pettys age, Petty just has the old hippy look is all where as prince has the old transsexual pimp look.

See they tried going too young and we got Brittny Spears, Boy Bands, and boobs with pasties on them. Oh and most of that music sucked balls.

Petty is a proven talent, he learned rock from the best in the business, Bob Dylan, George Harrison and Roy Orbison.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Bah a Gettysburg joke. Too Soon!

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Mike Carey calling a great game, as usual. I'm happy to see the first African American referee in the Super Bowl, and I'm happy that it's one of the League's great refs. But couldn't they give us one call by Ed Hochuli, just for fun?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Tom Terrific is eating a lot of dirt today. *giggle*

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

This may actually turn out to be a good game after all. Spags is going to look great in burgundy and gold...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Man which coordinator would you rather have from that match? Every time we see the pats on the field I am thinking their OC and the Nat's DC are playing for a possible HC job.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Eh, I'm not convinced he's HC material, but he's using an effective defense effectively.
But I sure do want to have a 10-hour conversation with him on defensive philosophy.

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

There is a great little spot in Potomac to do interviews I hear. Its in a van down by the river.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Why did New England go for it on fourth and 13 instead of kicking a field goal?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse


Why did New England go for it on fourth and 13 instead of kicking a field goal?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 08:56 PM

Maybe they just wanted to keep it interesting.. If they win 7-3 now that would be wild stuff.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

A slight white dude was shown limping on the sideline. Maybe their kicker is hurt?

Posted by: mack1 | February 3, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

The sideline reporter said the kicker isn't injured.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I tell you what, with a close game like this, I bet you Belicheat is wishing he had Vinatieri back there right now

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow. This is going to be a fun finish.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Now that 4th down attempt looks real bad

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I think the Giants are going to win this game....

Sad to say, Snyder will not be hiring Spags....it's gonna be Fassel. Or some offensive minded coach. Blache will be heading up our D and most of the D coaches are still here....but the offense needs help. I'm pretty darn sure it's going to be Fassel :(

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Huge, huge, huge, huge tackle there by Harrison. This is a great game.

The fans stopped the hiring of Fassel the first time. Maybe we should start the call for Spagnuolo.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

And to think Lisa, during the pre-season you said you called the Giants!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Snyder simply put the hiring of Fassel "on hold" but I truly believe if Rex Ryan has been open to coming here (or able to) Fassel would have been hired 2 weeks ago...fan outrage or not.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Who is the MVP of this game so far?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

That's right Kost....:)

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Lisa -- I think you're right. Offense is the weak link, and we have enough players to be competitive. I'd be thinking of an offensive coach first.

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

PDiddy, was just thinking the same thing, looking at the stats, no one really stands out. Maybe Tuck - 2 Sacks, 1 FF. Welker has 10 catches almost 100 yards. Depends on who wins too.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

My vote is for Welcker at this point...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Great F-ing game.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

KEEP THEM OUT!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOO!!!!!!!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

The Sports gods have simply been smiling on Boston....first the Red Sox win the World Series ...looks like the Patriots may probably win the Super Bowl...and I'm predicting the Celtics to win the NBA Championship.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I dunno about the Celtics Thinking that if we can beat em like we did then they may get KOed in the playoffs.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

And, to think I wasn't going to watch this game.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

How sweet would it be if the Giants scored on the final play!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, me too. I feel like a real a$$. Instead of being at work, I should've been at home watching this game. With Beer.

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Amazing!

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Steve Smith is a baller.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Wow. Wow.

I love this game.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!!!!!!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Do you believe in miracles?

Yes!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M MISSING THIS!!!! I'M SORRY FOOTBALL GODS! I'LL NEVER DOUBT YOUR INTEGRITY AGAIN!!!!!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Plax's prediction 23-17? So if the Pats tied it here, then the Giants score a TD in OT, he'll be correct!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Tom Terrific in the dirt again!!!

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable!

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

This is it...

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Don't want to jinx it...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

This is good.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow.... Just, wow...ROFL

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD. Greatest upset in Super Bowl history? Is Plaxico the new Joe Namath?

Belicheck doesn't want to play out the last second. Jerk.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Can you feel that Billy Boy!!!! That's your perfect season down the drain!!! Crack those bottles of wine '72 Dolphins!!!!!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

The Hoodie. No class cheater.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

F Belichick, F cheaters, F Brady, F New England in general (Skins fans notwithstanding).

I got no love for the Jints or their fans. But I am doggone happy they won this game.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 3, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

God, remember how Randy Moss was positively skewered by the media for running off the field before the end of the game when he was in Minnesota?

The media should absolutely ROAST Belicheck for what he just did. What a classless jerk.

Congrats to the Giants. Amazing story, amazing performance. Just amazing.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I can't stop giggling. *giggle*

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

You gotta be happy for Coach Coughlin here. Man, oh man.

This is great.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

What a great weekend. Monk and Green in the HOF, the Partiots humiliated on the biggest stage, and Bill Belichick shown as the arrogant, classless jerk that he is.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Who is MVP? Eli?????

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

What a sorry loser Bilcheat is! Damn stay out on the field and show some class.

Posted by: jm220 | February 3, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness, a good game. I was afraid of one of those done-by-halftime blowouts.

For some strange reason (having to do with 7th-grade politics, no doubt) my daughter is very unhappy right now.

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Steve Smith had some really big catches. I wish they could give the Giant's D-line the MVP. They played their asses off.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

You gotta be happy for Coach Coughlin here. Man, oh man.

This is great.

Posted by: PDiddy

Yes I don't like the Giants but Coughlin is da man.

My mom is like "I don't like the Patriots I don't know why" then I have her a bunch of reasons.

I think ST had to be a part of this.

9-7 in the NFC was not that bad this year.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

What on Earth is Doug Williams wearing? He looks like a blueberry.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

LOL Doug needs a stylist, desperately.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

And just think....we assisted in this win....if not for the Giants goal line stanch in our game (when we could not score) they may have imploded at 0-3.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

For some strange reason (having to do with 7th-grade politics, no doubt) my daughter is very unhappy right now.

Posted by: daggar

Your daughter had a crush on Tom on doubt. Bad taste man.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Kost, you silly old fool. Sat around with a bunch of barrel-chested blokes while the greatest Super Bowl ever blew right past you.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 3, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Spags for head coach! Start the emails flying!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

The Hoodie is gonna get skewered for going for it on 4th & 13. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, but I was kidding her about it and it didn't get the kind of rise out of her that it normally would.
But I'm sure it's a Boy thing in some way.

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

TE - Don't rub it in! I'm in tears!!! I wanted to see the Pats lose, I just didn't believe it was possible that they would!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Congrads to the Giants, rude and obnoxious as their fans may be sometimes--I was a Gints fan today :-)

They took down the top seeds in both conferences, the Gurlz (thanks!) and the Pats (thanks!).

I'd rather put up with Gints fans this offseason than Gurlz fans or Pats adulation!

Maybe the Gints will make themselves my SECOND favorite team by hiring Fassel before Snyder hires him!

Posted by: Alan4 | February 3, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Spags for head coach! Start the emails flying!

Posted by: PDiddy

See my post in the morning. Dan likes shinny objects so yes Spags will get to tell dan to go to hill like all the others and Fassel will be our next coach. But Fassel did coach the Giants soo.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Spags should be HC but I doubt it will happen because Snyder is Anti-DHC.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I did not see the whole game but why Eli because he is white?

What about the freeking deeeeefense.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Wonder what critical Tiki Barber has to say now?

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

And just think they had a book that called 19-0 that people could pre order. I guess they will be asking for their money back

Posted by: jm220 | February 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

My guess on Tiki's future quote: "See, the Giants may have won but they didn't have a sweet looking run game to complement their passing game. Lucky for those guys on offense the D showed up and they got the win."

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I feel pure joy. Monk in Green in Pats out.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

One complaint.....David Tyree should have been named the MVP instead of Eli.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

The Hoodie looks sick. *giggle*

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Its the NFL they will always name a QB in a game like this where its no clear MVP

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I dub Mr. Billichek Ripped Hoodlem.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Coughlin should thank Gibby and the Skins because he/they are 100% responsible for the Giants winning the SB.

Week 3 and it makes me sick.

Posted by: johnw | February 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Correct. The QB is more marketable than some random WR.

Prepare yourselves for the Eli Manning commercial extravaganza!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON -- The Washington Redskins, entering the final stage of their coaching search, tentatively plan to interview New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo on Tuesday, a person familiar with the selection process said.

The person, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the Redskins have not publicly released the names of any candidates, also said Sunday that New England Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is no longer in the running for the job.

Owner Dan Snyder told reporters in Arizona over the weekend that he hopes to have a coach in place within a week.

When asked about the candidates, Snyder gave a special mention to Indianapolis Colts defensive coordinator Ron Meeks, who was a Redskins assistant in 2000. Snyder was responding when asked whether it would be correct to list Meeks, Jim Fassel and Steve Mariucci as the leading contenders.

"You'd be close," Snyder said, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch. "I'm a big fan of Ron Meeks. He's a heck of a coach."

Posted by: jm220 | February 3, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I would have absolutely no problem with Ron Meeks. None.

Please, "Mr." Snyder: no Fassel and no damn Cowboys coaches. Please, please, please. Pretty please with a cherry on top.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Tell you what, wouldn't everyone be surprised if Meeks was named our HC!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I've never wanted to watch a losing coach's press conference more than today. Hehehehe.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

This whole "we had 'em on the ropes" thing sounds a lot like Denny Green.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Plaxico Burress little boy is simply adorable!

Gotta hand it to the Giants GM Jerry Reese....he did great in the draft last season...and we are stuck with Vinny :(

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

And Tom Terrific was upset that Plax predicted they would only score 17! You didn't even get that far Tommy Boy!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Funny, Lisa, I was thinking the same thing about his wife/girlfriend :-)

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Randy Moss is being very courteous....giving props to the Giants.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I know. They Giants had a helluva draft last year.

We have a "GM" who doesn't believe in using high round picks on linemen.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Gibbs,

Thank you so much for blowing another second half lead against us in week 3. We would have fallen to 0-3 with a loss, but your horrible coaching single handedly resurrected our season... and now look, we're Super Bowl champs.

Sincerely,

Tom Coughlin

PUKE EVERYWHERE

Posted by: johnw | February 3, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, where are you watching? All I got is talking heads on ESPN and NFLN.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow what a game, good fun to watch I have to say...thats all you can ask...

Eli, mad props...being that I am in NYC...i have a soft spot for Eli b/c he gets ripped unbelievably....so good for him...that should shut up "John in White Plains" on WFAN for a few weeks...

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Well a couple of days ago I said I'd like to see Meeks or Spanguolo on our sidelines next year but after tonight I'm well and truly praying for Spagnuolo.

Won't get him though - he'll want to control the defense and of course, Danny and Vinny have already given that job to Blache. Yes this excellent idea of appointing assistants before the head coach will probably ruin our chances of getting our hands on the guy who is now the NFL's hottest property.

Posted by: tartanskin | February 3, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, the NFL Network has the good stuff...they are interviewing the players.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

LOL Osi is letting the Pats have it...LOL

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Gibbs,

Thank you so much for blowing another second half lead against us in week 3. We would have fallen to 0-3 with a loss, but your horrible coaching single handedly resurrected our season... and now look, we're Super Bowl champs.

Sincerely,

Tom Coughlin

PUKE EVERYWHERE

Posted by: johnw |

This is the worst post of the day. What is wrong with you.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Tartan, the skins D has an identity... one that you couldn't remake in one offseason even if you wanted to. While the offense has some decent players, it really has no identity.. other than "the gang that couldn't score 20".
So Spag. might be a HOF coach, but probably not for us, now. We need some offensive innovation, or at least thought. That's why you interview as many guys as possible.

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Belicheat should be happy. Not many people can say they coached the greatest ever Runner-Up!

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

wow. . .

NFC east weekend. . .NFC is back and so is the NFC east. . .like JJG says, once you survive the nfc east you go into the playoffs battle tested. . .

difference between the 2 easts? one had all teams at or above .500, the other had only one team w/ a winning record. . .do you think it mattered? yep. . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 3, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

What a freaking game!!!! It was sure nice to see a team finally lay some wood to pretty boy Brady. Memo to the Skins Front Office: You can NEVER have enough good defensive lineman! Unfortunately the skins will now be facing a much more confident Eli and Gints team for the foreseable future.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 3, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Listen to this sook -

"I can not believe the way this game carried on. How many receivers from one team can push off without the referee's throwing a flag? Answer to that would be every Giant receiver. Another question I have is how is the defense suppose to know when to stop when the quarterback is in trouble? I ask this question because in tonights scenerio when Eli escaped from the grasp of three DL's everyone cheered, but simply put if one more person would have hit him they would have flagged then for roughing the passer. He was clearly in the grass. Suppose he wasn't though! Let's talk about the miraculous catch, or non-catch. The ball clearly hits the ground after the receiver had it trapped against his helmet. What is the deal with the Patriot receivers being tackled or hit before the ball arrives. Great eight or nine no-calls. The referee's sure played a good game today, I mean reffed a good game today. One last question: Was the outcome of this game pre-determined before the opening kick-off due to the Spygate junk. Congress can find time to run our country but seem to have time to deal with sports. Good Grief!"

Ha ha ha

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Fair point daggar. Maybe I'm just getting a little caught up in things here. Everything that has happened so far in this coaching search is pointing towards an offensively minded head coach and I really can't see Danny going for a first time head coach either. Frankly, I'd be stunned if it wasn't Fassel or Marriuci. Although I gotta be honest and say that neither of them really excites me.

Posted by: tartanskin | February 3, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

have to admit that for the first time in my life (gasp!) I'm glad to see the jints win. . .

might be the 21 on the back of the helmets, might be that D Green and A. Monk finally got their due. . .

might also be because the last time a Giant team upset an offensive juggernaut to win the the SB, guess who came out of nowhere to win it the following year?

yep. . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 3, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Best commercial?

I'm thinking the Audi R8 Godfather commercial.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

might be the 21 on the back of the helmets,

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 3, 2008 11:10 PM

Were any of the Pats wearing 21. I didn't see any but thought the miami guys on the team might have.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 3, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Brady was very classy in his presser....Belichick was (as usual) pretty much of a jerk.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Amen -- I don't have a real favorite, can't claim to understand the mind of Snyder, but I can come up with a plausible explanation for whoever gets named.
I'd say the real problem is that there's no one out there that really jumps out at you as a solid "must have" HC, and with three other pretty good teams in our division, it's going to require an excellent pick.
Kinda scary...

Posted by: daggar | February 3, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

mtmskinsfan,

I saw a couple of Pats wearing 21, but most of them did not.

Posted by: JustMe | February 3, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

lisa, what do you expect?

just hope dub G doesn't turn into to the next belichek. . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 3, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

all the commercials sucked.....

chrIS LArry

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

worst SB commercials EVER

simpson's comic book guy

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

all the commercials sucked.....

chrIS LArry

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 11:18 PM

funny wife said same thing 3 times. . . got to the point where I just skipped them. . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 3, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

all the commercials sucked.....

chrIS LArry

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 11:18 PM

I thought the Budweiser firebreathing one was pretty funny - not like it's going to make me drink Bud anytime soon - but still entertaining.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 3, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

the firebreathing one was....ok......but not first commercial break of the SB good!

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

it was sure downhill from there. . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 3, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

see y'all at the HOF induction ceremony. . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 3, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I felt a little sorry for the Pats players but then I saw Belichek afterwards and I got over it pretty quick. What an a$$. Wonder if anything will come of these reports of taping the Rams walkthru prior to the 2003(?) SB.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 3, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

especially b/c they lost...spygate is going to explode

kriSSY laRRY

Posted by: clawrence | February 3, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Right now "Touchdown Patriots" is on CNBC.

"An examination of the success of the New England "He HE HE he.

Posted by: mul | February 3, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I've been reading a bunch of message boards, and most of the Pats fans think the game was rigged, and the NFL did it because of Spygate!

Was the refereeing iffy? Or are they just looking through teary eyes?

By the way, at what point can we expect some D.S.B.F.N.? (Drunk Superbowl Blogging From Nate)

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Interesting........Deion just said on the NFL Network....."Spagnuolo did a great job with the Giants but the Redskins don't need a defensive minded head coach....they need an offensive minded head coach like my Mooch." He then asked Mooch if he has interviewed yet. Mooch replied "I think Dan Snyder is going to interview Spagnuolo tomorrow before they leave to try and determine the best option for him" - or words to that effect.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 3, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

So who's retiring now? Seau? Strahan? Harrison? Bruschi? Troy Brown?

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, wasn't the report that Mooch was interviewed briefly before the Superbowl? I thought I read that somewhere??

Posted by: kost52 | February 3, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Its going to be Spanuola (sp?) -- knowing Dan "Whats Hot Today" Snyder, he is going to take to that flame like the burnt up moth that he is.

Thank god for that SB outcome - this guy is more of a real deal than either Fossill or Mooch.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | February 3, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

>>> "see y'all at the HOF induction ceremony. . ."

Where are you going, 8k? The 'Skins Super Bowl has only just begun. We've got head coach drama, who-stays-who-goes assistant coach drama, free agency drama, draft drama, holdout drama, and, my favorite, 0-4 preseason sky-is-falling drama. The regular season pales in comparison to the nonsense this team manufactures during the offseason.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

kost,

Those Pats fans are just whiners and looking for a reason why their team failed to win. They showed a replay of Amani Toomer getting away with a small push off, but I didn't see a lot to question in terms of the calls in this game.

As for who retires, I don't know that some of those older Pats will be able to decide for themselves if they stay or go. I'm looking for that cutthroat organization to put several of them on the street and infuse some youth into that D.

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

That's right, we've got a target to hit! 200K by Training Camp wasn't it?

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

kost52, I believe Mooch was interviewed sometime this week....he evades the question whenever his co-hosts bring it up.

Adam Schefter asked Snyder yesterday if he was going to take Mooch away from them (the NFL Network) and Snyder said something along the lines of "we are going through the process and being patient" - his typical non answer.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 4, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Depending on the way this head coach thing goes, we might hit 200K by the end of next week. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

JustMe, it's an old LB corps isn't it. You'd think there's quite a few question marks over whether guys like Samuel, Moss, Stallworth will be back too, so they could end up looking a very different team next season.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, their LBs are pretty old. Rodney Harrison is no spring chicken, either. They're not gonna pay Samuel what he wants to earn, and I pity the fool who does (and pray it's not the Skins). Brady has made it clear that they had better not even entertain the idea of getting rid of Randy Moss. And, it'll be interesting to see if they keep Stallworth, who has made it clear that if New England doesn't keep him he wouldn't mind going back to Philly.

So, this team could look *quite* different next season.

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, kost, but just as Jasno wasn't regaling us with stories of a freaky hotel bar from somewhere close to the Super Bowl site, I won't be providing any DSBBFN this eve.

Didn't see a minute of the game, though I caught the end on the radio. (Not that it was rocket science, but right before the snap, Boomer Esiason called the go-ahead TD to Plaxico.) Wish I had seen it! But like you, I skipped this one. Ah well.

This reminds me... I loathed the "Greatest Show on Turf" to such an extent that I was thrilled, utterly thrilled when the Pats upset them in that SB. Today I am about ten times as excited by the Pats' upset loss. It's good for the NFL, it's good for America.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Amani Toomer said the Pats players were inviting the Giants players to their afterparties. He said Richard Seymour told them to get ready to go home. Wow... Just, wow...

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

HIRE MARIUCCI!!

HIRE MARIUCCI!!

Posted by: SonnyFan | February 4, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

HIRE SPAGS!!! I didnt even see the game, (working) but I saw enuff highlights and enuff Giant games this season to convince me that this guy could be a good pick for us. I dont care if he is a defensive coach, I would love to see us go after the Qb like the Giants do. You say Fassel is a offensive minded coach, and you dont think Snyder will hire a defensive coach because we have Blatche. Well, dont we have Zorn as an offensive coordinator. Matt Hassleback has spoken very highly of Zorn. This is the route we need to go. Come on Danny, dont screw this up. Spags worked with the Eagles for 5 or 6 years before he came to the Giants. Knows the NFC East like the back of his hand. Hire the QB sacker!!!

Posted by: Southpawpicker | February 4, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

That's okay Nate, I missed it live last year. I did go back and read through it though. Was great stuff! I guess I'll have to wait until next year, and no matter who is playing, I'll be at home drinking it up with everyone else! I've learned my lesson!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

HA Ha, Deion Sanders, yeah, there's someone we should be listening to. Dont make a second mistake by listening to Deion again, Danny!

Posted by: Southpawpicker | February 4, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

HIRE MEEKS! :-)
HIRE DOM DELUISE!
HIRE JIM J. BULLOCK!
HIRE anyone except Fassel or a damn Dallas Cowboys coach.

My new puppy is whining and whimpering in his crate. It's going to be a long, long night...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

PDiddy, good to hear you got yourself another pup mate! What kind did you get?

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Another Yorkie. Pics and videos are on my Facebook page :-)

He is an absolutely adorable ball of fur.

I forgot how annoying potty training is. Sigh...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Ahh I lost my post.

Short version.

Questions-

Are the Giants a well coach D.

If yes who gets the credit.

What is the difference between Spag and Greg on defensive philosophy.

Are only hope is the Dan is so bedazziled that he gives Spag some control over the Redskins FO. If not the classlessness will kill us in 1-3 years.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Ahh I lost my post.

Short version.

Questions-

1. Are the Giants a well coach D. WE DONT get OSI in the deal we just get a coach.

2. If yes who gets the credit.

3. What is the difference between Spag and Greg on defensive philosophy.

Our only hope is the Dan is so bedazziled that he gives Spag some control over the Redskins FO. If not the classlessness and stupidity will kill us in 1-3 years. Stubble to greatness.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

GG: Buddy Ryan's "46" scheme.
Spags: Jim Johnson's 4-3 pressure scheme.
Meeks: Monte Kiffin/Tony Dungy's Tampa-2 scheme.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Washington Redskins, entering the final stage of their coaching search, tentatively plan to interview New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo on Tuesday, a person familiar with the selection process said.

The person, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the Redskins have not publicly released the names of any candidates, also said Sunday that New England Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is no longer in the running for the job.

So McDaniels is out of the running, huh? I hope it's Meeks or Spag (or Marty, but we know that ain't happening).
I just have a bad feeling about Fassel.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 4, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

GG: Buddy Ryan's "46" scheme.
Spags: Jim Johnson's 4-3 pressure scheme.
Meeks: Monte Kiffin/Tony Dungy's Tampa-2 scheme.

Posted by: PDiddy

Well that might be a problem for Spag. if our DC is running a different defense already.

Is it not great that Snyder picks a coach off of one freaking game. He makes people on this blog look super smart. IF you can coach you can coach if you can't you can't.

I don't think Vinny wants any HC with power around too long so he will push for Fassel but Dan is calling the shots on this one.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Vinny wants any HC with power around too long so he will push for Fassel but Dan is calling the shots on this one.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 01:28 AM

Well Umm...He is the Owner of the team. :0)

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

leevie98

Yes he owns the team. How much input he has varies. The less he has the better we do. Most owners to pick head coaches some just get GMs. Except for Gibbs (who he loves) and I love, he has not done anything correctly except make money. GW just the latest example.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

From a NY Giants message board:

http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/673991.aspx

Redskin fans Scared Fassel may be Coach
Reply Quote
lol! I have to give the Redskins fans some credit they are *** that Fassel may soon be their new coach. All you need to do is peruse the Skin boards to see this. I for one hope Jimmy gets the job. This is the same feeling I had when Gibbs came back for a second tenure. They will be a non factor for years to come. Now if only the Cowboys will hire Ray Handley.

Re: Redskin fans Scared Fassel may be Coach
The Skins hiring Fassel certainly be the best offseaosn move for the Giants, and we wouldn't even have to do anything.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 4, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

BARNO'S GREATEST HITS

Who was talking playoffs when the Skins were 5-7 and blew it against Buffalo?

Exactly.

Posted by: barno | February 2, 2008 03:22 PM

Congrats to Antawn Jamison (and Caron too) for making the all star team. It hasn't been released publicly yet, but my sources just confirmed it.

Posted by: barno | January 31, 2008 04:05 PM

The bet here is that Darrell Green and Art Monk will go into the Hall together. If that happens, I wouldn't miss going to Canton for the induction ceremony for the world.


Posted by: barno | February 2, 2008 03:16 PM

Here's another Barno prediction for ya...

Giants will beat today's 12 point spread.

Posted by: barno | February 3, 2008 05:25 PM

Calling the playoffs for the Redskins at 5-7. Then the all star selections. Then the Hall of Fame selections. Now the super bowl bet.

Bang. Bang. Bang. Boom!

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

So, Barno, who do you like in the election?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 4, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

So, Barno, who do you like in the election?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 4, 2008 02:08 AM

MCCAIN

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Check this: I correctly predicted that I wouldn't enjoy Barno's last four comments up here!

Bang! Bang! Bang! Boo!

:)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

barno

You did not predict that the Skins were going to the playoffs at 5-7! I remember, we just thought is was possible. Point spreads are 50/50 so even a monkey can get that correct half the time. In fact I think if we elect a monkey it would better than the last 8 years or so. Monk in the HOF who would have thunk it?

Now if you predicted LBM would get the MVP 5 weeks ago that would be something.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 3:26 AM | Report abuse

barno

You did not predict that the Skins were going to the playoffs at 5-7! I remember, we just thought is was possible. Point spreads are 50/50 so even a monkey can get that correct half the time. In fact I think if we elect a monkey it would better than the last 8 years or so. Monk in the HOF who would have thunk it?

Now if you predicted LBM would get the MVP 5 weeks ago that would be something.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Barno,

So when are you predicting that you'll get that Chris Cooley autographed copy of...

Posted by: bangkokben | February 4, 2008 5:30 AM | Report abuse

Having not read all the post I apologize in advance if this is redundant.

Now, I want to point out that many of us still had hope that this team would make the playoffs even in the darkest parts of the season and possibly even contend for the Super Bowl. On the otherhand there was plenty of pessimism and many were spouting garbage like: why even bother getting to playoffs?

The NY Giants are reason to bother to get to the flippin playoffs. There is very little difference between the 'skins and Giants.

Having said that, Gibbs leaving and the way this coaching search as developed have washed all optimism from me. go 'skins.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 4, 2008 5:37 AM | Report abuse

I love how Barno's quote from when he predicted the Skins to make the playoffs from 5-7, came from Feb??

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 6:04 AM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS

Gregg Williams is meeting with Jerry Jones to interview for a coaching position.

Posted by: 1991solongago | February 4, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

The best part of the Pats losing the SB is that they lost.

The worst part is that next year they be even more driven and p*ssed and they will be BIGGER a-holes than they were this year.

Posted by: cmecyclist | February 4, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

Predicting skins to go to playoffs at 5-7 is what 90% of Redskinville Predicted.LOL
Barno and rest of Redskinville has Predicted SB & Playoffs till they are out Mathmatically every yr since 91 also?

Posted by: 1991solongago | February 4, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

My prediction is (still) that unless The Spag wows Danny-Vinny, Fassel is our coach.

Posted by: cmecyclist | February 4, 2008 7:01 AM | Report abuse

For those who are tired of the Great Barno Debate, and the reappearance of some stones better left unturned, try exploring this site for awhile. The video segments are definitely worth the time.

http://www.monk4thehall.com/

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 4, 2008 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Reflecting On A Day of Redskin Glory

I held my head up high for once as I proudly strutted to my locker on that first day in February, nineteen hundred and eighty eight. In a tumultuous sixth grade year that would find me mourning the loss of my dad, and welcoming a world of change into every aspect of my life, I found a fleeting moment to savor. The Washington Redskins - my first love and perennial champions in my heart, win or lose, had just delivered to me a day to stride atop the world. I remember just about every detail of that day. We went to Williamsburg Pottery and stopped for late lunch at Wendy's. Immediately following the game, I watched the very first episode of The Wonder Years. There was still snow on the ground and just before the Super Bowl aired, I had beaten my all-time high score on Spy Hunter. Then, of course, there was Doug Williams hoisting that Lombardi trophy over his head.

Read the rest of my article at http://itwouldbesocoolif.blogspot.com/2008/02/reflecting-on-day-of-redskin-glory.html
as I don't have enough space to post it here.

Posted by: cyclonus7 | February 4, 2008 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I'm apparently able to post it all here after all.

I held my head up high for once as I proudly strutted to my locker on that first day in February, nineteen hundred and eighty eight. In a tumultuous sixth grade year that would find me mourning the loss of my dad, and welcoming a world of change into every aspect of my life, I found a fleeting moment to savor. The Washington Redskins - my first love and perennial champions in my heart, win or lose, had just delivered to me a day to stride atop the world. I remember just about every detail of that day. We went to Williamsburg Pottery and stopped for late lunch at Wendy's. Immediately following the game, I watched the very first episode of The Wonder Years. There was still snow on the ground and just before the Super Bowl aired, I had beaten my all-time high score on Spy Hunter. Then, of course, there was Doug Williams hoisting that Lombardi trophy over his head.

As inconceivable as it seems, that was 20 Super Bowls ago. Two decades have passed yet I'm still just as proud of that team today as I was on that cold and triumphant morning. Today I celebrated the Hall of Fame inductions of two of my all-time favorite Redskins, Art Monk and Darrell Green. Monk, ever the embodiment of what it meant to be a Washington Redskin under Joe Gibbs - stoic, selfless, loyal and with an unflinching work ethic, patiently endured years of being passed over by the hall. There was never a single notion of doubt in the collective hearts of Redskins nation that Art Monk wouldn't eventually take his deserved place in Canton. We all watched the quiet warrior dutifully leap across the middle to make the catch, each time sacrificing his body to an unforgiving linebacker or safety yet somehow managing to stay on his feet to get the first down. The quintessential possession receiver, Art Monk was the first to score a touchdown in each of his 15 straight seasons, make a catch in 183 consecutive games and make over 900 catches in a season. In comparison, Art Monk draws a clean contrast to the blinged out glamor receivers of today. Then again, if you take a closer look at his teammates of that era, you'll find that he was not alone. It's not hard to imagine what the last four years would have been like for Joe Gibbs if he had a team of men cast in that mold in his latest go-round. Sadly, as Joe painfully learned, they broke the mold some time ago and selfless, hard-working team players are few and far between in today's NFL.

Then there's Darrell Green - Mr. Redskin himself. I can recall watching him close a 15 yard gap to catch Eric Dickerson from behind, preventing him from scoring and helping to preserve a playoff victory. What's even more amazing is that he did the very same thing on Monday Night Football in 1983, catching Tony Dorsett of the Cowboys. Both Dorsett and Dickerson were some of the brightest stars in the NFL at the time and Green was just a quiet, hard working corner-back, still making a name for himself. Oh and he was also the NFL's fastest man 4 years in a row. Many consider him to have been the fastest man in NFL history and I think that you'd have a hard time finding an objection from any of the quarterbacks and receivers that had to face him throughout his 20 year career. Green was one of the league's top corners throughout his entire career, which earned him the title of "the ageless wonder". Darrel Green was one of those players that "fought his guts out" for coach Joe Gibbs. An exquisite example of this tenacity would have to be Green's 52-yard punt return for the game winning touchdown in a 1987 divisional playoff game against the world champion Chicago Bears. During the run, Green made several supernatural evasive maneuvers as he streaked down the sideline, tearing his rib cartilage in the process. He never lost a step as he sprinted into the end zone clutching his ribs with one hand and the ball with the other. Darrell Green exemplified the human spirit off the field as he established numerous charity organizations throughout his career, eventually retiring to focus on them full time even though he arguably had several more good years left on the field. The man who is Darrell Green can be best summed up by his words today upon receiving his Hall of Fame honor, when while fighting back tears, he said, "Folks, before they ever paid me a $120,000 salary my rookie year, I was already overpaid. I was overpaid the day I got here. With the love of Jesus Christ, the incredible love of my family and friends and, later on, my children -- I don't know about the other guys -- but for my whole career, I was overpaid, I was over-respected and over-cared for. I say to all of you -- thank you, thank you, thank you so much."

So tonight, as we watch one of our NFC East arch-rivals raise the Vince Lombardi trophy, we can take pride in today's announcements out of Canton, Ohio. The football gods blessed the Washington Redskins with not one but two of the classiest legends to play the game and we got to spend the better part of two decades watching and rooting for them. It was quite fitting to watch Redskins legend Doug Williams carry the Lombardi trophy onto the field and present it to the Giants tonight. After all, it was Williams who rose to triumph as Super Bowl MVP twenty years ago, having led his team to an unlikely route. He overcame adversity, played for his team, not his self and never quit. I couldn't have been more proud of him then and I couldn't be more proud now and proud to be a Redskins fan. You should never be thanking us, Mr. Green. We should be thanking you. We should be thanking all of you for being celebrated players and legendary men.

Posted by: cyclonus7 | February 4, 2008 7:13 AM | Report abuse

I still feel hope.

If Dan is anything like a stupid monkey then he will go for spag. What ever is the most shinny. The key is spag gets a team with talent but being in the NFC east he knows what vinnyDAN will bring to the table. So spag will want some control. Will Dan shelve Vinny boy, who knows.

D coaches have done very very well from 2002.

That is my last reason for hope.

Jla good call on how great the AFC is. Please keep the football knowledge coming we need it.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

GREGG WILLIAMS TO THE COWBOYS!!!!!

GREAT, WAY TO KEEP F-ing us SNYDER

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

OK my hope is waning.

F U snyder

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/020408dnspocowlede.327af39.html

TALK ABOUT OUR WORST NIGHTMARE!!

I HATE YOU SNYDER YOU NAPOLEAN LOOKING MIDGET!!!!

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

I think Williams will go to the Jags where he will be in charge. At least that is what I am reall hoping for. lol

Posted by: jm220 | February 4, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

I predict Barno will continue to bash others baselessly while tooting his own horn.

KrisSy Larry

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Did Spaguolo cinch Redskins job?
Posted: Monday February 04, 2008 07:45AM ET
If Redskins owner Dan Snyder looked at last night's Super Bowl XLII as a final audition for Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, it's bad news for Jim Fassel, Ron Meeks and Steve Mariucci. Spagnuolo, whom the Redskins are expected to interview tomorrow to replace coach Joe Gibbs.

Washington Times

Posted by: jm220 | February 4, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

it's like musical coaches in the nfc east right now. at least if we get spags, we'll be getting a guy with extensive experience in the nfc east, and a guy that knows philly and the NYG intimately.

and there is no doubt in my mind that spags is on the top of danny's wish list right now. he has yet to interview, so we have no idea of the compatibility between the two, nor do we have an idea of spags' vision of his 1st HC gig. but i gotta say i was damn impressed with the job he did this year. and to top it off with that gameplan and performance against the pats in the super bowl, it was very BB vs. Martz circa 2002.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Two things - Grilliams is doing it just to make Danny Boy sweat. (Which would be fun.)

Second - if he does do Dallas, so much for his love of Sean "We want Dallas" Taylor.

Posted by: cmecyclist | February 4, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Couple things:

1. Congrats to Monk/Green, long overdue for Monk. Great day for Redskins fans, and for football fans in general.

2. Congrats to the Giants. Hopefully this allows Pierce to move on from the Redskins.

3. So glad, SO GLAD that the Pats lost. Suck it pats fans.

4. Get the search for a head coach wrapped up soon Dan, free agency, the draft, coming up in the next 2 months.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone from the blog going to attend the inductions in Canton in August? I had to buy tickets for it. I always said when Monk finally made I was going to attend, but with Green going in as well it's like Christmas in August!

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | February 4, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

As far as Williams to the Cowboys goes, seems like people are jumping the gun. The position he interviewed for with Dallas is a lower position than the one he interview for in Jacksonville it sounds like.

Seeing how Tuck/U-men-you're-a/Strahan played at the SB, underscored how much the Redskins need a stud coming off the other side of Andre Carter.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The Giants didn't have anything positive to say about Patriots defensive end Richard Seymour after their Super Bowl win. Apparently, Seymour told some New York offensive players that they "should be ready to go home" before their last drive. That comment irritated Toomer, and it still bothered Giants running back Brandon Jacobs in the locker room.
"I'll give you a quote on Seymour," Jacobs said. "You can write that he's a soft [expletive]. He said we should get ready to go home. Well, now he's on the team that went 18-1."

Posted by: jm220 | February 4, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Williams is not going to Dallas but the story reminds us Skins Fans that Danny is a First Class A-hole. He did pretty much "fire" Williams, strung him along, and one of the FO douches trashed him on the way out. Just out of habit no-doubt.

I could have been one of the DAN-BOTs that came up hear the last two weeks.

Why not at least 'try' and keep him one more year.

Spag is going to have to be a first class baby sitter has well as head coach.

F U Snyder.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I HATE SNYDER!

He pushed me down. And I fell. And it hurt. AND he is a meany. And I bumped my head when I fell down!

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

JM, thats the thing about Seymour, had he not shot his mouth off, you'd have never known he actually played in this game. For as 'good' a player as pats-fans try and make him out to be, he was largely outplayed by each member of the Giants line.

sams3, good stuff....lets let things ACTUALLY HAPPEN, before jumping off the bridge. Williams hasn't signed ANY-where, but because he interviewed with Dallas, its f-snyder. Logic...nevermind.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

If the New York Giants can win the Super Bowl the Redskins are not only 0 players away from winning, but should win next year.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I have always been ok with the Skins D line but last night I learned that I was dead wrong.

Justin Tuck Basically won that game for them. They need an animal on the line. Fast.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Tyree caught that ball cleanly and it never hit the ground. Replays confirmed it and no challenge was ever thrown.

Posted by: gregskins | February 4, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

If the New York Giants can win the Super Bowl the Redskins are not only 0 players away from winning, but should win next year.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 09:35 AM

I know you're a die-hard fan sams, but you can't really believe that can you?

The Giants are a good team that made a bad start to the season, remember Strahan was a hold-out (pending retirement) all through pre-season, it took them a while to get going but they played better and better as the season went on.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

That was just about the best game of football I've ever seen. And I've never been an eli fan, but I have to give him a lot of credit for that game.

Not only was the INT not his fault but the escape he made from under 3 defenders to throw that ball up for Tyree's unbelievable catch will be the stuff of highlight reels for the rest of his career. I guess his dad was right to push him to join the Giants instead of the Chargers after all...

It's funny how time changes all those seemingly stupid decisions; all those people who said that the Texans screwed up taking Mario Williams over Reggie Bush, the whole "Eli's crazy to go to New York" thing.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

This is all part of the plan for success. Only Vinny, gergmarino88, and leevi98 are logical enough to understand.

beep beep

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

If the New York Giants can win the Super Bowl the Redskins are not only 0 players away from winning, but should win next year.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 09:35 AM

uhh...no
Unfortunately the Giants have a better defensive line, offensive line, receivers, and as of now, coach.

Posted by: driley | February 4, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Why the 'beep beep' mul. Bored?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, that threw me off as well....

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Not to much into flavors of the week but hiring Spags seems like a much better option than Fass-hole. He has been coaching well in meaningful games while Fassel got canned from his only coaching gig in the last 4 years.

We could be like the Gmen next year. Unfortunately our front office is so short sighted and is having our young QB learn yet another offense. Plus I do not really trust them to do the right things to get game changing players on the DL in FA and the draft. I almost threw up on Saturday watching Snyder stand next to DGreen when they were interviewing him. He had absolutely nothing to do with the success of that era.

Last 2 things. If Jerry Jones hires Grilliams he is just as meddlesome as Snyder. They run a 3-4 and GW has only coached a 4-3. These fantasy owners trying to fit square pegs in round holes. It was awesome seeing cheating quitter Bellichick run off the field with a second left. Must have learned that from Moss.

Posted by: cdubb | February 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"That was just about the best game of football I've ever seen. And I've never been an eli fan, but I have to give him a lot of credit for that game. ..."

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 09:44 AM

While last night was not the game of the season for me, my GOS was the previous one ... Giants at Packers. I also give some credit to Eli, but like all things, the Eli we know and love (i.e., the choker) will return. Last night's game just demonstrates (again) that the key to the big game is being hot in December. And just like the Redskins get hot in December, the Giants (like the Redskins) will cool down over the offseason. Who would have thought the #5 seed in the NFC would defeat the effete? NOTHING to me says that, for example, the #6 seed couldn't have been in the same place (but for the momentum lost by a missed FG in Seattle).

The real shocker of the game was not so much the amazingness of the Giants' D line (which was amazing), but the complete crapitude of the Pats' O line. What happened to those guys? They used to be what made Brady great! Last night, they just made Brady a turf eater. Complete crap ... which meant that Brady was underthrowing, overthrowing, and just plain blowing.

Thought of the day ... Snyder's comments praising Meeks yesterday were his attempt at cleverness (i.e., throwing everyone off the scent and playing with Big Media). Business acumen is his strong suit; cleverness not so much.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

A question: why do they present the Lombardi to the owners first? I understand they funded the whole thing, but isn't it the coaches and players success first and foremost?

Being a European there's no analog to doing that in sport there. Most teams have owners, but they stay in the background.

Same thing with Snyder standing by Darrell Green, he's got as much to do with that as I have, i.e. nothing at all. Why even let him in the vicinity?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Also, why would Gregg Williams take a job in Dallas? Just because Jerry Jones spends money like its got Snyder's face on it (coming soon) and because the Jaguars pay in dry cat food? I'm mean, its not like the cool, calm demeanor of Williams off-the-field has a vengeance streak or anything ... see also, LaVar, Archuleta, early 2007 Springs, lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

why would Spagz come here????? The owner/FO are a mess but more importantly he is NOT going to a place with a Defensive coaching staff and philosophy in place.

And F fake beep beeps

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

RC, there used to be an era in the NFL (like from the beginning) when the owners were men of integrity, team spirit, honor, loyalty, and risk-taking. I dunno if you noticed, after the presentation of the Lombardi, they honors paid to late Wellington Mara and late Bob Tisch. They guys who accepted the trophy were their sons.

There is a new breed of owners now, the young turks, the vanguard. Revenue generation. These guys are breaking the old model of how to run this "business" where winning isn't important any more. Guess who leads that vanguard.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, looks like handing the Lombardi to the owner is a relatively recent change. And look who was involved: Jerreh.

"[SB XXX] was the first Super Bowl in which the Vince Lombardi Trophy was given to the owner of the winning team in an on-field ceremony after the game, a practice which has been followed ever since."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXX


Anything the NFL might do with its trophy would be underwhelming compared to the Stanley Cup ceremony, which is just about the best thing in the whole wide world of sports.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

This is a happy thread about news two days ago.

We should get a coaching thread going thus the b b.

I don't bb much, my bad.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

dcsween, you always make good points, however, if you think Dan Snyder doesn't want the Redskins to win (for good reasons or selfish ones) more than anything, you are wrong.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

F owners, rich scum bagz...

Last night was gross, all those wrinkly pasty people in one place. Caughlin was like the 13th person to speak.

It was like can we hear someone, who ya know actually effected the game fer crin out loud!!!!!

Its gonna be Fassel people, start preparing yo seff

ChRIs larry

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"why would Spagz come here????? ..."

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 10:10 AM

>>> Because fans with money would heart it ..

"This may actually turn out to be a good game after all. Spags is going to look great in burgundy and gold..."

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 08:44 PM

"... The fans stopped the hiring of Fassel the first time. Maybe we should start the call for Spagnuolo."

Posted by: PDiddy | February 3, 2008 09:25 PM

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, cdubb, it was. You win with class, and you lose with class, and you, Bill Belicheck have ZERO class. Karma, came around and punched you in the mouth, and you deserved every bit of it.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

"... if you think Dan Snyder doesn't want the Redskins to win (for good reasons or selfish ones) more than anything, you are wrong. ..."

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 10:17 AM

I don't deny that he personally WANTS the team to win, but btwn his personal wants and what generates the max revenues, I say its not even close. He personally WANTS the team so much, that he personally manages the team. And nothing sells like "plash".

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Hey I would take Spagz quicker than it takes Tuck to bull rush that Light dude, but it ain't happening!

Unless Barno sez so I don't believe it will happen. Barno can you tell me what numbers to play this week?

KrissY Larry

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

dc/All

I wil be the first to admitt that the NFL is year to year.....but dion't be to quick to say it will be same old ELI.... what you may be seeing is the begining of the new domminant NFC team.... a very scary proposition from where we sit....not saying its a certainty by any means, but by purley objective hindsight 20/20 evaluation they are a very young team with a dominant front 4, lead by a confident young QB, who is now wearing a super bowl ring and driving an Escalde as MVP.....

Posted by: Oldschool | February 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Anything the NFL might do with its trophy would be underwhelming compared to the Stanley Cup ceremony, which is just about the best thing in the whole wide world of sports.

This very well may be true, unfortunaly it is only the best thing ever to the 13 people that watch hockey.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Spag would only come here if he got some control.

Money, and a good playoff team, and a nice fan base make it a good gig normally.

But right now no one with an NFL future would come here above a position coaching level.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I love hockey! Go Caps!

Stanley Cup rulz
Triple Sams constant slurping of Snyder drulz

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"Couple things:

1. ... 2. ... 3. ... 4. ..."

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 08:31 AM

greg(b), that's a couple of couples. But MOSTLY, congrats to YOU for the Pats' upset loss. I imagine the "local flavor" of that result has to be extra specially tasty for guys like you and Old School livin up there in the kingdom of Pats/BoSox/Celtics/not Bruins.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

dcsween, I think he is smart enough to understand that both these goals meet at eachother.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I just want to thank dan snyder for making this coaching process a personal decision and firing Gregg williams. now he is interviewing with the cowboys. thanks alot Dan. send our best coach to your archrival.

Thanks Dan

Posted by: keithfbutler | February 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

This very well may be true, unfortunaly it is only the best thing ever to the 13 people that watch hockey.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 10:24 AM

That could change to 14 if Fassel is named HC. LOL

Posted by: jm220 | February 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

clawrence, I don't care either way about Snyder, I just don't really care to trash him all day. If i didn't say the things I say nothign but Snyder bashing would go on here. It's boring.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

OldSchool, but how can compare Eli, including his entire career under Gilbride, to Jason Campbell under Gibbs/Musgrave, Saunders/Lazor, and now Zorn? [note: sarcasm does not convey well in text]

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

jm220 well played

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the HOF Voters for finally getting it right for ART MONK. MUCH DESERVED!!!!

It was so awesome to see D Green and Monk talkin Sat during the press conf...

Very sweet to see them both go into the HOF together. Too genuine class acts!

HTTR!!!!

Posted by: EinVB | February 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Beep beep...for real...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I'd take Spagz over all those guys. At the very least he's an unknown commodity where as the others have been weighed, measured and found wanting.

He knows the NFC East, shut down the Pats and seems to be loved by his teammates.

The two problems. That result last night was more a function of their talent level than the scheme. You think our front 4 will be able to create that kind of pressure on anyone?

Second, if I'm Spagz I'm passing on the job. His success was a direct result of great drafting by their former GM., the steady ownership environment and a little bit of luck.


All three of those quilities are severly lacking in the skins since the Midget from Maryland to the helm of our once proud franchise.

Posted by: Skinz | February 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

clawrence = chrIS LaRRY

I beg to differ triple sams, even when someone has a reasoned arguement that is anti-snyder your right there to play smithers to his burns....

Look I am pro skins, would never denounce my fanhood, I am a beantown greg type guy in judging things on on field results, and I hope that snyder one day figures it out...

But Snyder is beyond gross, and football dim....there just aint other ways to cut that cheese.....

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Art Monk and Darrell Green on your election to the Hall of Fame!

Posted by: 4-12 | February 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Thank God. At LAST, Art is in...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

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