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Haslett apparent front-runner for Redskins defensive coordinator

(Updated at 1:53 p.m.)

With Mike Zimmer staying in Cincinnati, according to the NFL.com, Jim Haslett appears to be the front-runner to serve as the Redskins' defensive coordinator next season.

Haslett, former NFL coach and a respected defensive strategist, was at Redskins Park on Monday, talking with team officials about the possibility of joining coach Mike Shanahan's staff. The news was first reported by Comcast SportsNet's Kelli Johnson and has since been confirmed by multiple team sources. Haslett did not immediately return messages this afternoon, and his agent, Peter Schaffer, had no comment on talks.

Haslett, the NFL's coach of the year in 2000, wasn't in the NFL last season, instead coaching the Florida Tuskers in the UFL. But he's ready to get back.

It is believed that Redskins secondary coach Jerry Gray also received consideration and that the team also wanted to gauge the interest of Zimmer, who was expected to have a few options now that the Bengals' season is finished.

But the Bengals' had the advantage of a one-week window in which they can negotiate with Zimmer before any other teams and apparently they took full advantage of it. Cincinnati Coach Marvin Lewis was asked during his season-ending press conference Monday how confident he is that the Bengals could retain Zimmer, and he responded, "I'm very confident."

As for Haslett, his most recent NFL defenses haven't been ranked particularly high, but few in NFL circles are going to question Haslett's defensive expertise. As interim coach in St. Louis in 2008, the Rams finished ranked 28th overall. In his six years in New Orleans, the Saints' defenses were ranked eighth, 16th, 27th, 18th, 32nd and 14th.

He has used a variety of schemes over the years. Many have speculated that Mike Shanahan is interested in installing a 3-4 defense, a formation with which Haslett is plenty familiar. During his time in Pittsburgh in the 1990s, the Steelers relied heavily on the 3-4. His more recent teams utilized a 4-3 formation but still had a variety of blitz packages. Either way, philosophically, the Redskins' defense could be drastically different than the one Redskins' fans are used to seeing.

Fan frustration over a conservative defense that lines up aggressive players 20 yards away from the line of scrimmage, that prioritizes gap control over blitzing, and that dips defensive backs tackling-arms into grease prior to each game, could be coming to an end.

Alex Gibbs to join Carroll

And if there was any thought that Shanahan might be bringing long-time assistant Alex Gibbs with him to Washington, you can forget about it. ESPN is reporting that Gibbs, most recently the assistant head coach of offense in Houston, will be joining Pete Carroll's staff in Seattle. Gibbs is considered to be the guru behind the zone-blocking scheme that has given Shanahan so much success over the years.

By Rick Maese  |  January 12, 2010; 1:30 PM ET
 
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Comments

HAYZZZLET?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | January 12, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

man this really suks

Posted by: Felz2o2 | January 12, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I wont hold the Rams and NO against him they had very bad personell when he was there.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

w/e anyone but Jerry Gray dudes secondary was a joke

Posted by: Felz2o2 | January 12, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

When I think of Jim Haslett, I think of:

NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year for 1979.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"Many have speculated that Mike Shanahan is interested in installing a 3-4 defense, a formation with which Haslett is plenty familiar."


Sincce I have a bias for attacking, pressure based, confusion-oriented 3-4 defenses, I'd like to see this happen.

We can add the players as we move forward.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

In a 2005 article in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Haslett admitted to using steroids while playing for the Buffalo Bills.

Haslett went on record saying that "everybody tried it" to gain a competitive advantage against opposing teams.

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This bodes well.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I think we should wait until the Vikes pop the Cowboys this weekend and then pick up Wade Phillips as DC. You can believe he'd have a beast defense that would turn super-beast whenever we play Dallas.

Posted by: League-Source | January 12, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't be too fond of this hire.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 12, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Before he retired, my dad was as a podiatric surgeon. Bone spur surgery is not that big of a deal recover-wise, but sometimes spurs do just go away.

Something tells me Stump Mitchell's return call was prompted not by Clinton, but by the Front Office who asked Mitchell whether he ever wanted to work in the NFL again, and then asking him to repeat what he said about "Dan" the might otherwise have suggested meddling by The Owner into Portis' offseason routine (i.e., " ... and while you're at it, say he works out too!").

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Like I said...

Zimmer AINT leaving Cincy...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

He is a fiery coach. Bring him on. Hopefully the days of the every down prevent are in the past.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | January 12, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"I survived Hurricane Katrina."

by Jim Haslett

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

For now...and now = at least the rest of the day.

Del Rio is owed 15 mil from JAX to coach the next two years. He cant do anything to jeopardize that, until it can get worked out. JAX would love to get out from under that, just like Bud Adams would love to get out from under Jeff Fisher's contract.

Del Rio is meeting with the owner this afternoon.

There could be a lot more to this story swirling just under the surface...

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 1:32 PM |

Thanks but I will take Mort and Schefter's word over yours.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Great. I'm basing my comments on a) Del Rio's live comments and b) Schefter's live report on ESPNews I viewed 3 minutes before my post.

I'm not attacking you or your report. I'm saying that it has not played all the way out yet.

And even more late news: USC is talking to marriucci about the job per a crawl on ESPNews crediting nfl.com.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Since I have a bias for attacking, pressure based, confusion-oriented 3-4 defenses, I'd like to see this happen.

We can add the players as we move forward.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 1:48 PM

That's why I like the Packers' Psycho Defense where nobody is in a down position. [Admittedly, I also like the name of that particular package.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Interesting piece of News from Dan Hellie yesterday on the SportsReporters....

He said immediately after EVERY game, Snyder had Zorn go over each and every play of the game with him.

Talking about taking Madden to the next level....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I would be cool with Hasslet, he did a good job in the UFL, pulled a New England Patriots style 6-1 record against some more grizzled coaches.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to go ahead and blame Aaron Brooks for killing Haslett's head coaching career.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Kelli Johnson is the #1 beat reporter of the Redskins in this town.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Pete Carroll nabbed Alex Gibbs in Seattle.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 12, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Last year I called the Dockery signing as a "whatever" move. I was roundly persecuted by this blog. I'm getting the same feeling with Hasslett, particularly if Krumrie is the DL coach. These guys are living off of some genius that has not been evident in years. I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: TWISI | January 12, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

And even more late news: USC is talking to marriucci about the job per a crawl on ESPNews crediting nfl.com.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 1:51 PM

The other night, Clayton said that Mariucci could be interested in ... wait for it ... OAKLAND! Hmmm, that would be a tough choice: most impressive collegiate dynasty on the verge of a major NCAA scandal breaking out ... vs. the continuing ongoing scandal inspired by Al Davis ...

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

He won his first game as interim head coach of the Rams with a thrilling 19-17 victory over the 4-1 Washington Redskins.

That win was followed by a 34-14 drubbing of the Dallas Cowboys on 19 October, 2008.

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Apparently, Haslett also knows how to beat NFC East teams.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

We are in the runner up post for assistants. geez...

Posted by: jtrob_1 | January 12, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

skinfaninkehone/flounder21

I hate to interject, but you guys are doing a better job that Jason "Unka Phil" Reid.

Keep dropping them little bombs of information.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Kelli Johnson is the #1 beat reporter of the Redskins in this town.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 1:54 PM

reportedly, etrod enjoys when Kelli Johnson beats him.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

That's why I like the Packers' Psycho Defense where nobody is in a down position. [Admittedly, I also like the name of that particular package.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The Psycho was first implemented by the Pats if I remember correctly, they called it the UFO

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

His UFL team, the Florida Tuskers, went 6-0 in the inaugural season, but were upset in the first-ever UFL Championship Game by the Las Vegas Locomotives.

During the season, Haslett was also able to advise his son's high school football team.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

reportedly, etrod enjoys when Kelli Johnson beats him.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Word

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Haslett as the "apparent" front-runner ... translation: he's the one who is apparent to the beat media.

I thought that Jerry Gray was going to be the getting the Good Soldier reward for taking one (i.e., the interview) for the team. If he doesn't get the DC job, I say he's gone (unless he gets a job like "Associate Head Coach - Defense" and someone else is Defense Coordinator ... of course, that would be downright Gibbsian).

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"I survived Hurricane Katrina."

by Jim Haslett


This is insensitive and mean.

It mocks a national tragedy, belittles the suffering of millions, and pokes a finger in the eye of history.

And that's why it's so funny.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what happened between Alex Gibbs and Shanahan, but clearly the two don't see eye to eye anymore. The running game in ATL resembled Denver -- seems like all the RBs (Turner, Norwood, Snelling) all did pretty well.

Why Gibbs would go to Seattle -- and Pete Carroll isn't going to save that team -- is beyond me.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I think Haslett will do okay. He's a strict coach, which these defensive players are going to need. He's a former NFL linebacker and believes in the blitzing game. From what I can remember, he is the kind of coach that will get in his players' faces and hold them to a higher standard. I believe he ran a 3-4 when he was head coach of the Saints. I suspect this hiring means the Redskins will be running at least some 3-4 defense next year.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 12, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Fan frustration over a conservative defense that lines up aggressive players 20 yards away from the line of scrimmage, that prioritizes gap control over blitzing, and that dips defensive backs tackling-arms into grease prior to each game, could be coming to an end.


Great line! Everyone talked about how GB's defense made such a great shift to the 3-4 and then Arizona dropped 51 on them...

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 12, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't it Haslett who Spurrier made fun of for sleeping in his office during the season?

Posted by: timchadwick | January 12, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

His UFL team, the Florida Tuskers, went 6-0 in the inaugural season, but were upset in the first-ever UFL Championship Game by the Las Vegas Locomotives.

During the season, Haslett was also able to advise his son's high school football team.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 1:58 PM
------------------------------------------
Anything in WIKI about calling BINGO?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 12, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"As interim coach in St. Louis in 2008, the Rams finished ranked 28th overall. In his six years in New Orleans, the Saints' defenses were ranked eighth, 16th, 27th, 18th, 32nd and 14th."

Ok, someone explain to me how this is an improvement.

Posted by: AlohaFan | January 12, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The Rams gave Haslett an interim coach's contract, containing a clause that promised him the permanent head coach's job if the team won at least 6 games that season.

Within a few weeks, this clause was nullified by the NFL, because it violated the league's "Rooney Rule".

The Rooney Rule, adopted in 1993, requires that minority candidates get an equal opportunity to interview for all open head-coaching jobs; the 6-wins clause would've awarded the head coach's job to Haslett instantly, preventing any other coaching candidates from having a chance at it.

The team would lose their final 10 games, however, leaving Haslett with an interim record of 2-10 on the year.

On January 15, 2009 the Rams announced that Haslett was no longer in consideration for the permanent head coaching position and that the team would be going in ...

"a new direction."

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

cpet, grats on the lil pet....wonderful news.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 12, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

"These guys are living off of some genius that has not been evident in years."

There's a lot of guys doing this:

Rick Pitino

Santa Claus

Steven Spielberg

Tom Hanks

Mike Martz

The Road Runner

Don King

Dick Vitale

Joe Torre

mistamoe, (before the concussions, women, and substance abuse issues)

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if a journalist can cite Wikipedia as one of their sources.

but maybe I should?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to go ahead and blame Aaron Brooks for killing Haslett's head coaching career.

Posted by: Chia_Pet


Yeah, Aaron Brooks.

The same Aaron Brooks who while he was QB'ing got the Saints their first EVER playoff win -- the same Aaron Brooks who threw for 20,000 yards and 120 TDs with that team, oh and by the way was number TWO on the Saints all-time passing list until Brees passed him this year.

Yeah, THAT Aaron Brooks.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Haslett will have AH's best interests in mind for 2010.

Better have a solid FS to pair with Landry next season. There's going to be a lot of 0 coverage.

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 12, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey - congratz, Chia!! ceegars on me.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

That's why I like the Packers' Psycho Defense where nobody is in a down position. [Admittedly, I also like the name of that particular package.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The Psycho was first implemented by the Pats if I remember correctly, they called it the UFO

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 1:57 PM

If I remeber correctly it was first implemented by the buffalo bills and they called it the CREEP defense. They displayed this defensed in that game against the Cowboys on i think it was a monday night game where Romo threw 5 picks and the cowboys came back and won the game at the last minute.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | January 12, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse


Great line! Everyone talked about how GB's defense made such a great shift to the 3-4 and then Arizona dropped 51 on them...

Posted by: rich20ssu

GB's defense only gave up 45 ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Frank you very much, bean.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised the Skins has not made a move for Jim Mora Jr as DC.

Posted by: TWISI | January 12, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The other night, Clayton said that Mariucci could be interested in ... wait for it ... OAKLAND! Hmmm, that would be a tough choice: most impressive collegiate dynasty on the verge of a major NCAA scandal breaking out ... vs. the continuing ongoing scandal inspired by Al Davis ...

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:54 PM

Mariucci was lobbying shamelessly for the Redskins job that went to Zorn. Seems to me like he's raised his standards -- either one of these situations would be better than the last two years with Snyder and Cerrato.

Posted by: League-Source | January 12, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

and Dik

and cL.

Learning the art of the one handed post here...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I know Laron's Brother plays SS but he looked more like FS then a SS watching the Bmore game.

how would people feel if we signed LL's brother to play FS?

Posted by: GreatOne1 | January 12, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

"As interim coach in St. Louis in 2008, the Rams finished ranked 28th overall. In his six years in New Orleans, the Saints' defenses were ranked eighth, 16th, 27th, 18th, 32nd and 14th."

Ok, someone explain to me how this is an improvement.
Posted by: AlohaFan | January 12, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Is he a HC or a DC for us, and as you just wrote: the Saints' defenses were ranked eighth, thats good.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

GB got a great fantasy football defense because its all based on getting big plays -- and they do get a lot of them.

But a good offense can have the GB defense for lunch. Pittsburgh did it and AZ did it.

GB's defense is the type that is really good against the not very good teams, but isn't likely to hold up vs playoff level teams.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Moe - come on, Tom Hanks?? Guy is a genius. You can't hate on the Dan Brown movies just because they were awful of themselves...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 12, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have Jerry Gray than Haslett. Just look at his resume.

Middle of the pack or worse on defense, once the total worst (with a whopping 6 years to make it better).

Completely washed out of the NFL for a reason. He proved he couldn't learn and adapt. What the heck do we see in this guy?

Posted by: REXskins | January 12, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Instead of hiring a known commodity who is probably competent, but with a limited upside, like Haslett, why not try to find the next Dick Lebeau or Rex Ryan, i.e., a young position coach on the defensive side who is bright and innovative and who is ready to take the next step up the coaching ladder to D-Coordinator?

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 12, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Man, will there be anyone on our staff that was actually in the NFL last season? Looks like the bingo caller would be right at home.

Posted by: dovelevine | January 12, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Larry Bird is not walking through that door, fans. Kevin McHale is not walking through that door, and Robert Parish is not walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through that door, they're going to be gray and old.....and all the negativity that's in this town sucks

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 12, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

The D could use a few tweaks, but a complete overhaul from 4-3 to 3-4? I feel that is a huge waste of time and player ability. I say keep it 4-3 w/minor tweaks (to the secondary). And I'm not too sure about Haslett, don't know much about him but from this report, it doesn't seem like he's that great.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | January 12, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

the d coordinator job should be a plum for whoever gets it. You get a top young player in Orakpo, a superb player in the middle in London Fletcher and beast on the OL in Albert.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"..come on, Tom Hanks??"

Correction: remove Tom Hanks

Insert: Tom Cruise

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

A review of QB stats in the 1st Quarter is a pretty good indicator of effectiveness before the ensuing score begins to dictate the game plan adjustments.. ie. Prevent D mop up completions.

Of interest... Flacco and Jason are fairly close...in these two categories.. Only 8 points apart in 1st Qtr and 16 points in 4th Qtr less than 7 minutes.


Non First year QBs and their 1st Qtr and 4th Qtr **

Peyton Manning 1st Qtr = 101.7
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 132

Brett Favre 1st Qtr = 107.4
4th Qtr last 7 minutes =118

Aaron Rodgers 1st Qtr = 98
4th Qtr last 7 minutes =112.1

Kyle Orton 1st Qtr = 99.8
4th Qtr last 7 minutes =106.8

Drew Brees 1st Qtr = 110.7
4th Qtr last 7 minutes =106.6

Rony Romo 1st Qtr = 90.5
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 102.4

Ben Roethlisberger 1st Qtr = 108.7
4th Qtr last 7 minutes =98.2

Eli Manning 1st Qtr = 72.1
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 94.8

Kurt Warner 1st Qtr = 114.6
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 88.1

Joe Flacco 1st Qtr = 77.9
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 77.1

Donovan McNabb 1st Qtr = 105.5
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 76.1

Jason Campbell 1st Qtr = 69.8
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 61.0

Trent Edwards 1st Qtr = 97.0
4th Qtr last 7 minutes = 80.3

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 12, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

We all know that CP is SOFT!!!!! He doesn't want to work...neither do I...He whines to the coaches about his teammates...He Whines to the owner about the coaches...He talks negatively about his teammates to the media... He is not a guy you can win with!

Posted by: jtrob_1 | January 12, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse
Wow, I really have to take issue with that statement. CP has the heart of a thouroghbred. He has more desire than most players on the team. He will do whatever he can during the game. The big unknown is how much practice he skips because he doesn't want to practice, and how much practice does he miss because he can't go.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Moe - come on, Tom Hanks?? Guy is a genius. You can't hate on the Dan Brown movies just because they were awful of themselves...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 12, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Hanks and Philip Seymour Hoffman in "Charlie Wilson's War": Great, great stuff.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The D could use a few tweaks, but a complete overhaul from 4-3 to 3-4? I feel that is a huge waste of time and player ability. I say keep it 4-3 w/minor tweaks (to the secondary). And I'm not too sure about Haslett, don't know much about him but from this report, it doesn't seem like he's that great.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | January 12, 2010 2:20 PM

Agreed. Bring Grilliams back as DC. Make it a bet. Squat thrust competition btwn The Owner and Grilliams. Grilliams loses, he coaches Skins D. The Owner loses ... well, typing that just now, it occurs to me that has been the story here for quite a while. Maybe just beg Grilliams to come back.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Blache had a variant of the Psycho defense ready to go. The players all milled around, but they did it 20 yards off the line of scrimmage.

That's why I like the Packers' Psycho Defense where nobody is in a down position. [Admittedly, I also like the name of that particular package.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse


Hey, the Green Bay strategy seems to have been to get Arizona's wideouts so tired from running 30 yard pass plays that they would be ineffective by the end of the game. And it almost worked.

Posted by: groundhogdayguy | January 12, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

This smacks to me of another celebrity hire. We don't need another DC like Ray Rhodes or Marvin Lewis who is more concerned with auditioning for his next job than in dedicating himself to improving the Redskins over a period of years.

Posted by: jksesq1 | January 12, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse


Correction: remove Tom Hanks

Insert: Tom Cruise

Posted by: MistaMoe

Approved. And, no homo.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 12, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised the Skins has not made a move for Jim Mora Jr as DC.

Posted by: TWISI | January 12, 2010 2:10 PM

If Zorn is the worst HC in the last 10 years than Mora Jr. is #2 on that list.

I'd take Haslett. No to Gray or Mora jr.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 12, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

When was Tom Cruise's genius evident?

Outside of Tropic Thunder, I can't think of anything he was even watchable in.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

interesting stats GM.

so...

JC is below average in starting games AND in closing games?

golly, I would've never guessed.

McNabb is that bad in the 4th?

and Peyton?

WOW.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Hanks and Philip Seymour Hoffman in "Charlie Wilson's War": Great, great stuff.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 2:24 PM

Staffer: Congressman, the Speaker wants you to serve on the Ethics Committee.

Charlie Wilson: C'mon, everybody in town knows I'm on the other side of that issue.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"GB's defense is the type that is really good against the not very good teams, but isn't likely to hold up vs playoff level teams.

Posted by: zcezcest1"

GB's defense did finish 2nd overall in total yardage allowed.

They also finished #1 in takeaways and turnover margin, and 7th in points allowed.

That was a legit defense. Unfortunately, they lost 3 starters in their secondary late in the season, were forced to drop into a deep cover-3 against Arizona, and happened to run into the steamroller that is Kurt Warner in the postseason who can seemingly decipher binary code while facing the blitz.

Remember, Warner is also the guy that torched the statistically historic Steelers defense for 300+ yards and 3 TDs in the Super Bowl last year.

I would love to model our defense after that GB defense. However, I don't think we have the personnel for it. Nobody on our roster resembles Charles Woodson, who essentially plays the Polumalu role, only listed as a CB. They also have a number of monster down linemen well over 300 lbs (Raji, Jenkins, Jolly).

The 3-4 defense I think we could emulate? Dallas. We have the edge rusher that could grow into a Ware as the anchor (Orakpo). We have smart, disciplined LBs that could transition inside and set the defenses like Brooking and Bradie James do (Fletcher and McIntosh). Unlike most 3-4s, Dallas uses a smaller, quicker NT for penetrating purposes in Jay Ratliff. And that's exactly what Haynesworth could excel at. We have the makings of big-bodied ends that can eat up space (Daniels, Jarmon, Golston, Alexander). Carter could play the old Greg Ellis role of edge rusher opposite the star player. And certainly Dallas' secondary isn't filled with elite stars. Good ones, but there are no Ed Reed/Polumalu type guys back there. Nobody back there that can't be mimicked.

And, shocking as it seems, Dallas did finish second overall in points allowed. That's a defense I think we could model ourselves after.

Posted by: psps23 | January 12, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"Man, will there be anyone on our staff that was actually in the NFL last season? Looks like the bingo caller would be right at home."

Well, folks said they wanted highly competence and qualified coaches, not 'rooney rule' hires.

Give the old guys a chance, they get discriminated against, too.

If we're lucky, maybe Dick Vermeil will join the team and be the tear-jerker coach.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Tom Cruise's movies make money, just like Snyder's Redskins.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 12, 2010 2:22 PM

Kyle Orton 1st Qtr = 99.8
4th Qtr last 7 minutes =106.8

Let's trade the 4th overall pick for Kyle Manning. He's worth 8-10 wins on his own.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 12, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have Jerry Gray than Haslett. Just look at his resume.

Middle of the pack or worse on defense, once the total worst (with a whopping 6 years to make it better).

Completely washed out of the NFL for a reason. He proved he couldn't learn and adapt. What the heck do we see in this guy?

Posted by: REXskins | January 12, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse
Haslett is tough as nails, will get in player's face if they screw up. I like him as DC, but wouldn't want him as HC.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Great line! Everyone talked about how GB's defense made such a great shift to the 3-4 and then Arizona dropped 51 on them...

Posted by: rich20ssu | January 12, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

GB don't run a true 3-4 defense like Bmore or Pittsburg !

Posted by: jiza32 | January 12, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

When was Tom Cruise's genius evident?

Outside of Tropic Thunder, I can't think of anything he was even watchable in.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 2:29 PM

The volleyball scene in Top Gun was pretty manly.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 12, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Haslett is tough as nails, will get in player's face if they screw up. I like him as DC, but wouldn't want him as HC.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 2:36 PM

He must have run some good defenses in Pittsburgh -- good enough to get him promoted to HC in New Orleans.

Posted by: League-Source | January 12, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOOO!!!! This can't be....Haslett, you have got to be kidding me....

If this really happens...I'll set up a stand that sells tissues to catch all our tears at Fed Ex next year as we watch our defense drop to the same level as the offense...

How can they seriously be considering him...???

Posted by: rot8tor_man | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

GB also lost 3 defensive starters near the end of the year. Not too mention, AZ has a pretty good offense, especially when turnovers essentially give them 21 of their 51 points.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: follybeach | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

GB don't run a true 3-4 defense like Bmore or Pittsburg !

Posted by: jiza32 | January 12, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

How do you mean you mean successfully?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

(contin'd)"..come on, Tom Hanks?? Guy is a genius.."

Best Hanks' movie:

"Forrest Gump"

"Philadelphia"

"Toy Story"

"Castaway"

"Saving Private Ryan"

"Joe Versus the Volcano"

There are others.

Moe goes with, "Saving Private Ryan"

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

His last, and only... quality movie was Risky Business.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Jerry Gray was operating under Blache's orders but all I've watched two seasons of our corners 10 to 15 yards off the line of scrimmage and our safeties 30 yards off with LL playing the deep cover safety position. That is not good coaching, I don't care who we get as long as they stop that crap.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 12, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Haslett is tough as nails, will get in player's face if they screw up. I like him as DC, but wouldn't want him as HC.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Just because someone is "tough as nails" and will get in a player's face if they screw up doesn't make them a good coach/coordinator. That just sounds like a jerk off to me. Remember brains are also involved in football just as much as brawn.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | January 12, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe,
Not Hanks staring but Hanks produced. Band of Brothers.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Haslett is tough as nails, will get in player's face if they screw up. I like him as DC, but wouldn't want him as HC.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Just because someone is "tough as nails" and will get in a player's face if they screw up doesn't make them a good coach/coordinator. That just sounds like a jerk off to me. Remember brains are also involved in football just as much as brawn.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | January 12, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

But then again, maybe that's what some people like CR#22 (should they keep him) and LL#30 need.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | January 12, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"I state the obvious."

by Josh Grzymkowski

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 12, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

GB don't run a true 3-4 defense like Bmore or Pittsburg !

Posted by: jiza32 | January 12, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

How do you mean you mean successfully?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

No I mean full on 3-4 defense.

Posted by: jiza32 | January 12, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Not fair, Tom Cruise was good in 'Born On The Fourth Of July.'

Best Hanks' movie:

"Forrest Gump"

"Philadelphia"

"Toy Story"

"Castaway"

"Saving Private Ryan"

"Joe Versus the Volcano"

I was run-NING... Forrest Gump is an all-time classic.

I would add Apollo 13 to that list, since I like Sci-Fi movies.

But I a bigger lover of war/history movies so 'Saving Private Ryan' is definitely the best Hanks movie. One of my top 10 of all time.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Just because someone is "tough as nails" and will get in a player's face if they screw up doesn't make them a good coach/coordinator. That just sounds like a jerk off to me. Remember brains are also involved in football just as much as brawn.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | January 12, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I watched him coach as DC in Pittsburgh from '97-99. Always thought he was in control. Smart, tough, won't back down.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Agreed...who cares if he's tough as nails if he can't coach...

We need someone ala Pettibon...someone who sticks it to 'em and can make half time adjustments and dominate a team...

When was the last time our team made a solid defensive adjustment at half time and shut a team down? Hmmmm?

Posted by: rot8tor_man | January 12, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Moe goes with, "Saving Private Ryan"

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad pick. Castaway for the sheer ability to carry the movie for an hour alone on screen is another.

Paul Giamatti as a random Sergeant that Hank's squad came upon in "Saving Private Ryan"... that guy SO nailed that part.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 12, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

"I would add Apollo 13 to that list, since I like Sci-Fi movies."

Wow Red, just... wow.

Posted by: REXskins | January 12, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Band of Borthers is the sh_t.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't know. Maybe they looked at the players they had and decided 3-4 would be a better fit. You can play Orakpo and Carter at outside backers and move McIntosh and Fletcher inside. Haynesworth would obviously play nose tackle with big guys like Alexander and Montgomery at ends. Jarmin would have to put on the pounds but would be a good second string guy. They would need big guys like Daniels and the team would probably try to re-sign him. It would be a little shaky at first, but this is not a lot different from what Green Bay did.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 12, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Well, Apollo 13 isn't exactly Sci-Fi, but it has to do with space, so it too is the sh_t.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I would like to dedicate this track to CPo & all the Skins' faithful who have been putting up w/ this for so long...

Maggot Brain

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow Red, just... wow.

Posted by: REXskins


Explain? Was it cause I called it Sci-Fi?

If you're going to be an as_hole, at least be an informative as_hole. Teach one, reach one and whatnot...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

They called my Grandfather "Nails" when he coarched at Eastern (to the DC Championship title, btw).

They called my Grandmother "Mrs. Nails", my Dad "tack" and my Uncle "thumbtack".

I always knew I had a screw loose somewhere...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"I state the obvious."

by Josh Grzymkowski

Posted by: Chia_Pet |

Shouldn't you be getting in some sleep while you can :?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

3-4 would fit Orakpo purrfectly. That's JayTay's scheme, too.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't they interview Todd Bowles for the defensive coordinator job?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 12, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Apollo 13 is great for the shear brilliance of Howards creativity to get in Zero G for realism.

I forgot Castaway too.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Fan frustration over a conservative defense that lines up aggressive players 20 yards away from the line of scrimmage, that prioritizes gap control over blitzing, and that dips defensive backs tackling-arms into grease prior to each game, could be coming to an end."

One can hope.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I'll see if I can reach you: Apollo 13 actually happened!! We went into space!! We even walked on the moon - no fakies.

My favorite Tom Hanks movie is "Splash" - a historical documentary about mermaids and the men who love them.

It's been a long day, didn't mean to split hairs just making fun. I'm glad you know its not fiction.

Posted by: REXskins | January 12, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Red,
I think he was making fun of the Si-Fy line. As its a historic piece.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

stump comin up next on john thompson show http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?station=dc

Posted by: Felz2o2 | January 12, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

They called my Grandfather "Nails" when he coarched at Eastern (to the DC Championship title, btw).

They called my Grandmother "Mrs. Nails", my Dad "tack" and my Uncle "thumbtack".

I always knew I had a screw loose somewhere...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

So why do they call you Dik?

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Remember brains are also involved in football just as much as brawn.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski

I'd like to buy or friend a vowel please!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 12, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I always knew I had a screw loose somewhere...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

So why do they call you Dik?

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I could understand "Dup", as short for "ScrewedUp".

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Fritz, it's mah name, maan. Dik is mah name. Somehow I'm believe I'm supposed to say "don't wear it out..".. but that's ridiculous.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Agreed...who cares if he's tough as nails if he can't coach...

We need someone ala Pettibon...someone who sticks it to 'em and can make half time adjustments and dominate a team...

When was the last time our team made a solid defensive adjustment at half time and shut a team down? Hmmmm?

Posted by: rot8tor_man | January 12, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Well, rot, I tried to get by the barricades at FedEx at half-time, but they wouldn't let me. So I can't answer that one for you.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

OK, major question.

The Florida Tuskers?

WTF is a Tusker?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

apparently: a warthog/wildhog

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Tusker?

Posted by: zcezcest1
Local name for warthog in Florida apparently. If the UFL had one glaring weakness in the first year it was that their creative team who came up with the uniforms and logos had the mindset of a 12 year old girl. (no offense to 12 year old girls intended)

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

(contin'd)"..come on, Tom Hanks?? Guy is a genius.."

Best Hanks' movie:

"Forrest Gump"

"Philadelphia"

"Toy Story"

"Castaway"

"Saving Private Ryan"

"Joe Versus the Volcano"

There are others.

Moe goes with, "Saving Private Ryan"


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse


you forgot his 2 finest pieces of work: Bachelor Party & Volunteers

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

In other news. Jim Zorn was meeting with Snyder for up to 2 hrs a week to break down game film. Doubt that continues with Shanny.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 12, 2010 12:59 PM

This had to rank somewhere just below "Applying ointment to Mrs. Zorn's corns" on Jim's weekly list of chores.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 12, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

If the UFL had one glaring weakness in the first year it was that their creative team who came up with the uniforms and logos had the mindset of a 12 year old girl. (no offense to 12 year old girls intended)

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse
If it had been a committee of 12 year old girls, they would have been the Florida Phallics, or such as...

Posted by: frediefritz | January 12, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse


"I state the obvious."

by Josh Grzymkowski

Posted by: Chia_Pet |

Shouldn't you be getting in some sleep while you can :?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

FAIL on my part for using my name as a washingtonpost ID. So who's "zcezcest1"? and Chia_Pet yes, I state the obvious. It's cold outside. I live in The DC area. I like The Washington Redskins. I drink coffee in the AM. Chia_Pet is a turd.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski | January 12, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

All I am saying is they could have gone with something original or more local based. of the 4 teams they had, 1 had a good name, 2 had acceptable but not unique names and 1 was irrelevant. Now all of them had bad team uniform colors and logos.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

wife's grandfather was on one of those boats storming the beach....won a purple heart to boot...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 12, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the Jerry Gray talk...his secondary was a JOKE! Good riddence. Cheers!

Posted by: MPNangle | January 12, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, players fu_k up...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

wtf is with all this tom hanks junk?

GB had the number 2 defense in the league this year and woodson had his best season yet. Yeah they got spanked by Arizona but i would love to have dom capers here (i realize not happening)

I was starting to get on board with the caoching staff until i heard the haslett news. Please dont let this be true.

Posted by: terpskinzorioless | January 12, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

wife's grandfather was on one of those boats storming the beach....won a purple heart to boot...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 12, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I have a long time family friend (known my whole life) who was there, he actually was shot, they thought he was dead and they left him with the corpses for 2 days before someone noticed him moving.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

frediefritz - I hear they are as tough at the barricades as they are with sign control!!!

I'm serious though, I've missed that feeling of knowing that an adjustment would be made at half time and everything would be all right...don't you?

It seems to me that they develop a game plan and that's it..if it don't work in the first half there is no plan B....other than everybody back off the line 15-20 yards...pathetic IMO...

Posted by: rot8tor_man | January 12, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

from my recollection the offense was being run by 12 year old girls...

Posted by: rot8tor_man | January 12, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

al, he was 18 yrs old when he landed on that beach.....I think he had something like 18 confirmed kills...I thank God every day that I don't have to live what he's had to live with.....

back to reality, red's a bama, and stuff...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 12, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

contin'd)"..come on, Tom Hanks?? Guy is a genius.."
Best Hanks' movie:

"Forrest Gump"
"Philadelphia"
"Toy Story"
"Castaway"
"Saving Private Ryan"
"Joe Versus the Volcano"

There are others.
Moe goes with, "Saving Private Ryan"
Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

you forgot his 2 finest pieces of work: Bachelor Party & Volunteers


Big
Turner and Hootch

I also kinda liked him in Catch me if you can

and if there are any ladies on...Sleepless in Seattle/You've Got Mail...

I'd probably have to go with Saving Private Ryan though too...(although for some reason I really really like Joe vs the Volcano)

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 12, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Moe goes with, "Saving Private Ryan"


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse


No love for Big?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 12, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

bean, about your wife's grandfather, that is what's up!

The thing is most of the guys who were in multiple firefights don't really talk about them all that much. I only saw the aftermath... really fuc_ed up stuff...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I would also throw in The Green Mile for consideration.

The Band of Brothers is an excellent series. Probably the best WWII series made.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 12, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"and that dips defensive backs tackling-arms into grease prior to each game, could be coming to an end"

Hopefully the "close your eyes before trying to hit the ballcarrier" tackling scheme will come to an end as well.

Posted by: skinswest | January 12, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

...(although for some reason I really really like Joe vs the Volcano)


Posted by: amaranthpa | January 12, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse


That reason would be Meg Ryan as a redhead.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

red, he talked about it once,and we actually video taped it, so that we'd have it to remember what he'd been through....he brought back a letter opener and a bayonette, and some other stuff with the SS symbol on it that he took from one of the houses hitler had....stuff makes your hair stand on end just holding it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 12, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

My grandfather was killed on Utah beach. My dad never met him.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

The jerseys and logos for ufl are terrible.

I could see the league sticking around as a D-league for NFL though.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 12, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"Fan frustration over a conservative defense that lines up aggressive players 20 yards away from the line of scrimmage, that prioritizes gap control over blitzing, and that dips defensive backs tackling-arms into grease prior to each game, could be coming to an end."

Hopefully the "close your eyes before trying to hit the ballcarrier" tackling scheme will come to an end as well.

Is Haslett the front runner because they like him or is he the only one they've interviewed so far? I'd be OK with Haslett as DC - seems like a tough SOB

Posted by: skinswest | January 12, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Whoa beans, 18 confirmed kills!?!?!?!

Damn! Very, very very impressive given the approach the allied forces had to take to even get on the beach in the first place.

They don't make 'em like that anymore.

These days you have guys that have to get psychiatric treatment for blowing the ENEMY out the frame. In those situations it's either me or the other guy that wants to KILL ME. I don't know, but I kind of like breathing, so it's not even a question on what I'd do or how I'd feel in the aftermath.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

C'Mon Man...As redskins fans we're on here debating if Haslett would be an upgrade as the new DC...Hell yeah he would be we lost 3-5 games this year alone with Blache and Jerry Gray bulls**t version of a defense!!!How about this name John Palermo as the new DC or Chuck Cecil, hell throw my name in the hat but anybody other than Jerry fu**in Gray or Greg "glasses on the edge of my nose" Blache please!!!I can't and will not sit thru another season of watching our DB's give 10-15 yards of cushion on every play!!!

Posted by: robbkels | January 12, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Fritz, it's mah name, maan. Dik is mah name. Somehow I'm believe I'm supposed to say "don't wear it out..".. but that's ridiculous.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 12, 2010 3:10 PM

Not just ridiculous. In some jurisdictions, that conduct is actually felonious.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

My understanding of the UFL logos & unis was that they were going generic while building up the league and they would become more unique as more teams were added.

Not sure why they would employ that strategy, though.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins management should write a new rule into their by-laws, similar to the Rooney rule, only it specifies that at least one former Redskin should be interviewed for each position. Take the o-line, for instance. Grimm wouldn't take it but why not interview Joe Jacoby? He probably wouldn't get the job as he has only been coaching for a little while but think what it says to the fan base...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 12, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Its probably human nature that Shanny is also thinking who he selects could also be competing with Kyle, someday, for Head Coach of the skins 4-5 years from now..(if such a scenario develops).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 12, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The Band of Brothers is an excellent series. Probably the best WWII series made.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 12, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Best American WW2 sure. The Germans have done a lot of good flicks about it, the one about Hitler in the Bunker a few years back was amazing.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

FAIL on my part for using my name as a washingtonpost ID. So who's "zcezcest1"? and Chia_Pet yes, I state the obvious. It's cold outside. I live in The DC area. I like The Washington Redskins. I drink coffee in the AM. Chia_Pet is a turd.

Posted by: joshgrzymkowski

Party at Grzymkowski's house. I'll bring the vowels.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | January 12, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Re: Tom Hanks movies

Road To Perdition

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Moe goes with, "Saving Private Ryan"


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse


No love for Big?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 12, 2010 3:29 PM

Big was fun..but gotta go with Moe!

Posted by: edvar | January 12, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

red, yeah, wife told me he was just crazy and would roll her eye's, but then, after hearing what he's seen, been through, done, I told her not to say that anymore....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 12, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I would also throw in "The Green Mile" for consideration.

This begs another question.

Best prison movie:


"The Shawshank Redemption"

"The Green Mile"

"Cool Hand Luke"

"The Dirty Dozen"

"The Longest Yard"


(and then, we promise to talk football again)

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

My understanding of the UFL logos & unis was that they were going generic while building up the league and they would become more unique as more teams were added.

Not sure why they would employ that strategy, though.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I am with you 100%. I even sent them an idea for what they should do for their vegas team.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV,

Its because of my Grandpa that I enlisted in the military as well. He was a hero to me and at his funeral I found out he was one to many others as well.

A sense of duty cost 21-year-old Carl Kistel his legs, but saved dozens of American lives.
A private first class in Company A of the United States Army’s 343rd Infantry Regiment, Kistel’s outfit
was caught in an artillery barrage. Cut off from the rest of the battalion that served under General
George Patton, Kistel ran for a radio in the middle of a shell-swept street in Dossein, Germany on
April 26, 1945.
After being wounded, Kistel crawled to cover and called for air support.
The U.S. Army awarded him a Distinguished Service Cross, a Purple Heart, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 12, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Shanahan likes the 3-4. Haslett has coached both 4-3 and 3-4 so he'd probably be good at transitioning from one to the other.

Posted by: skinswest | January 12, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Shawshank Redemption is the best prison movie by light-years.

Posted by: REXskins | January 12, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Best prison movie:

Posted by: MistaMoe

Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | January 12, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Redskinhead... I am a part of the fan base and would rather have experience and competent coaches versus ex-redskins.
The Gibbs 2.0, nostalgia play, didnt work out too well..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 12, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"The Shawshank Redemption"

"The Green Mile"

"Cool Hand Luke"

"The Dirty Dozen"

"The Longest Yard"


(and then, we promise to talk football again)

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I would have to go with Shawshank redemption, Great movie.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 12, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"The Longest Yard"

Posted by: MistaMoe

Original over New

But I vote "the great escape"

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Best American WW2 sure. The Germans have done a lot of good flicks about it, the one about Hitler in the Bunker a few years back was amazing.

Posted by: alex35332


You're talking about downfall? If so, yeah that movie was really good.

Tripped me out how some were going straight pu**y and blowing their brains out at the end.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Whoever said we are not hiring coaches who were in the league, we just hired the youngest OC in the league who had the 4th ranked offense. We also hired a RB's coach who has been in the league for 20 years and is considered one of the best in his field.

They haven't hired Hasslett yet so relax and see what happens.

A lot of Cordinators struggle when they becoe head coaches, his defenses in Pittsburgh were very good.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"The Shawshank Redemption

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 12, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

BTW I hear on "the fan" that Zimmer is not confirmed out.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If Zimmer has an agent.. He will still be in the Snyder mix.
===========================

BTW I hear on "the fan" that Zimmer is not confirmed out.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:53 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 12, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I have to go with Shawshank as well great movie.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I thought carter is in Dc cuz he couldnt hack it as a OLB in SF's then 3-4 scheme. Jarmon and Alexander are just what the doctor ordered as 3-4 ends, wilson can play the other OLB with RAK rocky and London can play MLB's. Just need a FS and a non rock handed double move falling for moron at one of the CB spots.

Posted by: drewkinnear | January 12, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Best prison break... Zorn's ex-coaching staff departing this week on Redskins Drive.
========================================
Best prison movie:

Posted by: MistaMoe

Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | January 12, 2010 3:48 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 12, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm telling y'all, they don't make soldiers like that anymore. These days you have people that are scared to shoot back... in the HUMVEE... while driving away.

Prison movie?

"How could you be so obtuse?"

"What did you call me?"

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I wish I could tell you that Jimmy fought the good fight, and Snyder let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but Redskins park is no fairy-tale world. He never said who did it, but we all knew. Things went on like that for awhile - off-season life consists of routine, and then more routine. Every so often, Jim would show up with fresh bruises. Snyder kept at him - sometimes he was able to fight 'em off, sometimes not. And that's how it went for Jimmy - that was his routine. I do believe those first two years were the worst for him, and I also believe that if things had gone on that way, this place would have got the best of him.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"The Shawshank Redemption

Posted by: 1965skinsfan

Second that ...but I recall a woman's prison movie i really liked...the name escapes me at the moment.

Could one consider Schindler's List a prison movie?

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 12, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

... the one about Hitler in the Bunker a few years back was amazing.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 3:45 PM

You mean the one about how pissed he was that Dallas lost in the playoffs AGAIN after he had just bought the T.O. jersey?

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"The Shawshank Redemption

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 12, 2010 3:51 PM
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If Dallas wins on a FG in the playoffs... is it the "Suishamshank Redemption"?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 12, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Back to football.

Shanny's staff so far?:

Jim Haslett- defense

Bobby Turner--running backs

Kyle Shanahan--??

And who's going to be the all important offensive line coach?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Best prison movie ever ... still Cool Hand Luke (you muddaheads).

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

And who's going to be the all important offensive line coach?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 4:01 PM

... and which coaching job is Kirk Olivadotti going to get?

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

JUPITER, Fla. (Jan. 11) - Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Namath's 19-year-old daughter has been arrested in South Florida.

Olivia Namath faces charges of possession of liquor by a person under 21 and two counts of possession of marijuana, including possession with the intent to sell. She has been released on bond.

According to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office, a deputy smelled marijuana in a car driven by Namath during a traffic stop Sunday. Authorities found bags containing a green leafy substance that tested positive for marijuana in the car's floor board and trunk. They also found a bottle of rum and beer bottles.

The deputy's narrative states that Namath denied knowing about the drugs.

A message left with Joe Namath's attorney was not immediately returned.


Joe is said to be strug-ga-ling with the news.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 12, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Best prison movie ever is that one (2,3,6?) that Pam Grier is half naked throughout...

But I also agree Cool Hand Luke rules, I would also add the original Bad Boys (Sean Penn) and Victory with Michael Cain/Sly Stone/Pele...well maybe thats the best sports/prison movie hybrid.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 12, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 12, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Sad, she broke one of the three rules though, big mistake.

Only commit one crime at a time.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

And who's going to be the all important offensive line coach?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 4:01 PM

Mike Munchak (O-line coach in Tennessee) ... Titans averaged 5.1 yards per rush (admittedly, a certain RB had something to do with that). Or the guy who coached the Panthers' O-line (#2 rushing team ... umm ... OK, Williams/Stewart there too). Umm, Dallas' guy? They were #3 rushing team ... with chumps at RB.

Skins need to re-establish the run ... which they need to do with an offensive line.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Gray formally interviews for Redskins’ coordinator job

Posted: January 12th, 2010 | Jason La Canfora | Tags: Bob Slowik, Bobby April, Bobby Turner, Greg Blache, Jerry Gray, Jim Haslett, Kyle Shanahan, Mike Shanahan, Mike Zimmer, Richard Mann, Steve Jackson, Washington Redskins

Jerry Gray, the Redskins’ secondary coach and someone who interviewed for the head-coaching job earlier this season, is formally interviewing for the defensive coordinator position Tuesday, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

Former Saints coach Jim Haslett interviewed for the job Monday, according to sources, and another top candidate, Mike Zimmer, re-signed with the Bengals earlier Tuesday.

New Redskins coach Mike Shanahan is putting together a staff that will include his son, Kyle, as offensive coordinator. Bob Slowik, Shanahan’s former defensive coordinator in Denver, almost is certain to join the staff in some capacity. Gray also could remain in his current position should he not be promoted to defensive coordinator.

The Redskins’ current defensive coordinator Greg Blache is expected to retire.

Steve Jackson, the Redskins’ safeties coach, also is scheduled to interview with team officials Tuesday for a position coaching defensive backs.

The Redskins are scheduled to meet with Bobby April about coaching special teams, according to sources. April recently left the Bills.

Shanahan also is expected to hire Richard Mann to coach wide receivers and Bobby Turner to coach running backs.

Posted by: TWISI | January 12, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

another for Cool Hand Luke

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Back to football.

Shanny's staff so far?:

Jim Haslett- defense
Bobby Turner--running backs
Kyle Shanahan--??
And who's going to be the all important offensive line coach?

Posted by: MistaMoe

Thought Bobby Turner was Assistant Head Coach...whatever that actually means.

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 12, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

CL,

Forgot about that movie that was awesome when he put the sodas in the pillow case, and beat the sh_t out of those guys.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

When I was in 10th grade we were studying these guys who everyone looked up to -- I guess it went with the theme of being in high school.

The stories we studied was Cool Hand Luke and The Great Gatsby.

The Great Gatsby is one of the best stories. Ever.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Best Tom Hanks, his guest role on Taxi -- from the episode where Jim is back in college.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

word flound, that was dope...also when the nerd wired the radio to explode in the dudes face....

Posted by: chrislarry | January 12, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Sween, apparently you have not seen "Penitentiary".

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Only commit one crime at a time.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 4:09 PM

... or plan for two, move on when the first fails, and, oh never mind ... this is a story of epic fail (that also happens to be some of the most hilarious writing in the WaPo in recent years) ... you can't make this stuff up (even the victim was an epic fail).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/10/AR2010011002776.html

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Thought Bobby Turner was Assistant Head Coach...whatever that actually means.

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 12, 2010 4:12 PM |

He's Assistant head coach Running Backs which is a way to get him away from Denver, but he is basically still just the RB coach that gets paid better.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

and with the Tom Hanks thread, no mention of Bosom Buddies ... with the always excellent Holland Taylor?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The Great Gatsby is one of the best stories. Ever.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

It was even better when they spun of the plot into the totally under rated movie "Funny People"

Posted by: alex35332 | January 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Best Tom Hanks roles:

Junkie brother on Family Ties
Full run of Bossum Buddies
Bachelor Party
Nothing in Common
Record Producer in That Thing You Do
Volunteers

Once he turned "serious' he became a major dueche

Posted by: chrislarry | January 12, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

thought carter is in Dc cuz he couldnt hack it as a OLB in SF's then 3-4 scheme. Jarmon and Alexander are just what the doctor ordered as 3-4 ends, wilson can play the other OLB with RAK rocky and London can play MLB's. Just need a FS and a non rock handed double move falling for moron at one of the CB spots.

Posted by: drewkinnear | January 12, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse
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Exactly what I was thinking regarding Carter... but why not try some type of hybrid scheme that includes some of both... You got the Lineman to shuffle in/out... Definitely, think Orakpo would be the big winner running 3-4.

Posted by: tony325 | January 12, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

word flound, that was dope...also when the nerd wired the radio to explode in the dudes face....

Posted by: chrislarry | January 12, 2010 4:14 PM |

Yep

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Best prison movie:


"The Shawshank Redemption"

"The Green Mile"

"Cool Hand Luke"

"The Dirty Dozen"

"The Longest Yard"


(and then, we promise to talk football again)

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Bad Boys with Sean Penn is one of the best prison movies.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 12, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Sween, apparently you have not seen "Penitentiary".


Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:14 PM |

Another oldie but goodie.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Ernest Goes To Jail

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have Gray than Haslett.

I don't want the safeties coach to be the secondary coach.

Unable to quickly find stats / ranking on special teams. Were the Bills good at that?

Posted by: REXskins | January 12, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Bad Boys is excellent but it's not a "prison" movie because it's set in a juvenile facility.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

RTOTD [Random Thoughts of the Day]

Never heard of the Tuskers, however the Lingere league starts up Friday night Tampa Breeze vs NY

Best prison movie - Chained Heat with Linda Blair and Sybill Danning

Like Mora better than Haslett

Don't think AH will like being a NT, but I could be wrong

Band of Brothers - Marine style
on HBO in March - The Pacific
should be excellent!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 12, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

learnedhand, missed that one. I did find something, however, to displace this conversation direction. A blog to talk about prison movies.

http://www.prisonflicks.com/

I propose a switch to the topic of epic failure generally.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

He's Assistant head coach Running Backs which is a way to get him away from Denver, but he is basically still just the RB coach that gets paid better.

Posted by: Flounder21

Maybe I could go for Assistant Head Coach - Water Boy?

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 12, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

best prison movie? Debbie Does Double Time.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Jean Claude Vann Damm

Death Warrant

I'm the Sandman

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

twas the sequel to Debbie Does Detention

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

best war movie - steel helmet/a bridge too far

best prison movie - birdman of alcatraz/
and one with james almos, forget the name

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Dam LH with the technicality! Must be a lawyer...haha

Sybil Danning was hot...I had a great poster of her in some cheesy spacesuit with a laser gun on my wall in HS...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 12, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Jean Claude Vann Damm

Death Warrant

I'm the Sandman

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse


...and I didn't think that Ernest Goes To Jail could be topped.

Well played, sir.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Bad Boys is excellent but it's not a "prison" movie because it's set in a juvenile facility.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Thats a prison for minors.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 12, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Unable to quickly find stats / ranking on special teams. Were the Bills good at that?

Posted by: REXskins | January 12, 2010 4:20 PM |

Bobby April is one of the best in the league.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

South Central

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Haslett does not appeal to me....what in his background would make one think his defense would be an improvement?

Also, Shanahan's "apparent" staff seems overly white to me - I'm just saying...

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs, you talking playoffs. OOPS wrong NO coach.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | January 12, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Quick change of choice ... Bridge over the River Kwai.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Best futuristic sports movie Roller Ball, and not that LL Cool J crap but the orginal with James Cann.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

South Central

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse


Best prison movie? Gang movie? HBO original?

I hope not best HBO Original. That would have to be Mom and Dad Save the World.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

"If Dallas wins on a FG in the playoffs... is it the "Suishamshank Redemption"?

I would love it if this weekend's vikes v. pokes game was like the saint's v. redskin game where, on the eve of victory, Suisham shanks one, and leaves the cowboys in a canyon of grief and despair....

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

American Me is the EJ Olmos movie and it is a good film.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Haslett does not appeal to me....what in his background would make one think his defense would be an improvement?

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 12, 2010 4:25 PM

Not sure if they're going for improvement as much as replacement (maybe with more blitzing?). Nothing excites me about Jim Haslett.

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

American Me is the EJ Olmos movie and it is a good film.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:30 PM |

Yes great movie

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

best war movies were made in 50's and early 60's. most stars/writers were stars not these "i read a good book" wannabes

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Band of Borthers is the sh_t.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 12, 2010 2:51 PM

No doubt. Just watched the marathon for the second time a couple of weeks ago. HBO is doing another one on the campaign in Japan.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

OZ on HBO was money money...

Posted by: Stu27 | January 12, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

American Me is the EJ Olmos movie and it is a good film.

Posted by: learnedhand1 |

thank you, yes excellent movie

best war films were made in 50's and 60's. most stars/writers were vets and tried to make it as realistic under the handicaps of not being able to show actual bleeding, etc. a lot of them were in some of the battles that the story was about.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 12, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Its times like this where I enjoy RI a lot ... its a virtual Cheers (as in the TV show), 'cept you gotta get your own beer.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 12, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

South Central was a movie that came out in movie theaters/....I was going to say American Me next...but I see it was just mentioned....

South Central is one of my favs....

"What Do You see in Front of You?"

"A Man"

"We all know Bobby here a man. He a man, so nobody punking nobody here. Am I right, Buddha? Buddha, do you, or do you not recognize this is a man standing here?"

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if there's something out there that I don't know...

...but that Cincy D didn't look very staunch when I watched them play.

Zimmer? Haslett? Gray?

I'm sorta "whatever" as long as whoever comes in here, comes with a FLEXIBLE approach and a willingness to look at the personnel and tailor the D to their strengths, as oppossed to swearing by a "system" regardless of who's on the roster.

Posted by: p1funk | January 12, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Blood In Blood Out was epic IMHO....I need to see that again....

And American History X was also great....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Midnight Express, though the prison scene in Goodfellas was classic too.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 12, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Deuce.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

OZ on HBO was money money...

Posted by: Stu27 | January 12, 2010 4:36 PM

For maybe the 1st 3/4 seasons...after that? Not so much...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

South Central's quality and acting were very poor. Colors was a much better movie about LA and its gang culture. Menace was also verty good.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 12, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Blood In Blood Out was epic IMHO....I need to see that again....

And American History X was also great....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 12, 2010 4:39 PM |

Two great movies I have them both on DVD.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

South Central was good I have that in my DVD collection as well.

Best gang movie The Warriors

"No reason I just lie doing things like that"

The Gramacy Riffs were some bad Motha F-ers

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 12, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Wait, on prison movies how could we forget Escape From New York!!!!!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 12, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

merry beep beep everyone

Posted by: -swb | January 12, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Is this how it is going to look.

DL - Haynesworth
NT - Goldston, Montgomery
DL - Alexander, Daniels
OLB - Orakpo
ILB - Fletcher
ILB - Blades?
OLB - Andre Carter, Chris Wilson

I think Wilson and Orakpo are going to make an awesome tandem.
See ya, McIntosh, Griffin

Posted by: Redskins001 | January 12, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Was The Rock a prison movie?

Not usually a fan of Michael Bay flicks but he got it right with that one.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 12, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Please anybody but that back stabber Jerry Gray for DC!! F-Dallas and Jerry Gray!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | January 12, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Professional Journalist: "But the Bengals' had the advantage of..."

Random Guy At A Keyboard: uhh, why the possessive apostrophe?

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | January 12, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

If Shanahan is really interested in running the 3-4, why not go after Al Groh before he signs with the Dolphins? The guy's put a lot of linebackers (Farrior, et al) and a few decent linemen (Canty, Long) in the pros; he knows what he's doing in that defense.

Posted by: 82Wahoo | January 12, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Tom Hanks produced the mini series From The Earth To The Moon. Very well done. 10 hours that will bring you back to the 60's.
I recommend this highly.

Posted by: diamond_jim | January 12, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

all i have to say is name jerry gray dc cause haslett has a terrible record as dc and his defenses have never been in the top ten.the best hes had is between 15 and 20th.

Posted by: xpac69 | January 12, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

i'm glad we didn't get zimmer.all you have to do is look at both games they had against the jets and that tells how much he sucks.

Posted by: xpac69 | January 12, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

band of brothers is better than from the earth to the moon,but etm is really good.

Posted by: xpac69 | January 12, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Why not Dexter Manley as DC, free coke anyone?

Posted by: abxinc | January 12, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Fan frustration over a conservative defense that lines up aggressive players 20 yards away from the line of scrimmage, that prioritizes gap control over blitzing, and that dips defensive backs tackling-arms into grease prior to each game, could be coming to an end.

Great writing, Jason, in both substance and style. Hope you are right.

Posted by: richardshaker | January 12, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Haslett, when you get to town, be sure to get down on your knees and worship at the Altar of Gano, who single-handedly (or 'footedly'?) whooped yo' @ss in OT at the UFL Championship a couple months ago. LOL

Aw, jeez, I hope we're not becoming the Washington Federals, Part Deux. If anyone sees Ray Jauch walking through Union Station with a suitcase and a resume, we got problems, sports fans.

Posted by: ericenderle | January 12, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't 'believe in the blitzing game, only blitz every now and then. If your scheme is solely dependant on blitzing that means your personnel is NOT good enough(d-line)to get to the QB, jim haslett does alot of screaming on the sidelines but he is no top flight d-coordinator he certainly was not with the saints(I know he was the HC) gray who did have success at buffalo did not do a good job with DB'S with washington not sure where that leaves him. No to the 3-4 scheme washington does not have enough linebackers for that and their DE are not big enough along with haynesworth who wants to attack up field and not stay in his prescribed gap,I dont mind it being used in certain downs but not as the base defense.

Posted by: wathu19 | January 12, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

When did he have good defense?? We don't need to get better on offense with a fall in defense then were still sucking as a team. We need another Raven defensive coach...they seem to bring it!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | January 12, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

When did he have good defense?? We don't need to get better on offense with a fall in defense then were still sucking as a team. We need another Raven defensive coach...they seem to bring it!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | January 12, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

We need all new coach's

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | January 12, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The good news on hiring haslet is when the Danny fires the Shanny halfway through the season we will have a interim head coach "with experience".

Also sign a 100 million dollar pass rushing DT and switch to the 3-4, Im sure Big Albert with be thrilled playing NT...brilliant

Posted by: tgy1369 | January 12, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I would like to say congratulations to the Skins Nation. I hate to see Mike Shanahan in another color other than Orange and Blue. Bobby Turner will be there as well as possibly more players like Brandon Marshall, Peyton Hillis, and Tony Scheffler. Skins your team will be on top in no time. I totally envy you Skins fans!!!! (Mile Hi Salute)

Posted by: viruthcheng | January 12, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

More solid reporting directly off of the ESPN web site. If I had a choice of working for the ultra-positive Pete Carroll and Paul Allen (whose personal wealth is greater than many countries) or tightly wound Shanahan and the evil midget, it wouldn't be a hard decision. Both franchises are in rebuilding mode, so choose your bosses...

Posted by: randysbailin | January 12, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

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