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Haynesworth Highlights

As you'd expect, Albert Haynesworth's introductory press conference was loose and humorous. As ChrisLarry mentioned, I did indeed tweet it. You can read the tweets on our site. And sign up to follow at twitter.com/RedskinsInsider.

Haynesworth immediately addressed a certain Cowboys incident and the best moment, for me, quickly followed as he discussed his motivation. "You're not going to remember Albert Haynesworth as a bust or for the Dallas incident. You're going to remember him as a great player." Jim Zorn, who shared the podium with Haynesworth, piped up, "You want to say, "Amen, brother!' "

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Hey,
I'm famous. Cindy is name dropping.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Anytime a player steps on a cowboy

it's a good thing

welcome albert

Posted by: rhowze | February 27, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

God I hope this works out for us...

Posted by: tdskinz | February 27, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

What's the news with O-Line signings?!?

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Let me be the FIRST to congratulate Haynesworth on his big day!

Go Skins in 2009!

Posted by: Wemiss21 | February 27, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Sorry wemiss. I doubt you were the FIRST to congratulate Albert on his big day. I'm sure his agent was the first.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Vinny was just on Redskins Nation with Larry Michael. He was describing how Haynesworth will help Andre Carter and Jason Taylor - so guess that answers the question of whether we will be keeping Taylor. He expressed sadness (yeah right) at seeing Shawn leave but said we will go with Carlos and Hall as starters (didn't JLC state for weeks after the season ended that Carlos would be traded?) with Smoot and Tryon as backups.

Larry asked him about future pickups and he said we probably will not have many - certainly not name draw players. Larry then mentioned Dock - looked into the camera and said "Dock if you are watching -come back to us!"

Vinny also said the salary for our 13th pick has already been factored into all their dealings last night

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 27, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm never first at Nothin! Whaaa!

:(

Posted by: Wemiss21 | February 27, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse


I will miss Shawn Springs. He is a class act, and a definite salary cap loss. I seem to recall Mr. Synder flying him to Dallas to be with his dad last year? I believe the Redskins treated him right while he was here, and it's a business decision.

Sad to see him go, and I hope he doesn't end up a Cowboy. Whereever he does go, I wish him well.

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"The Skins have gambled with Campbell where they almost need him to remain mediocre if they hope to keep him....if he blows up in a good way next season, its his last with the Skins....

Posted by: chrislarry"

Think again. Next season, all the dead cap money ($8+ million) and Jason Taylor ($8.5 million) comes off the books. That's not including any other "restructures" or cuts that may occur to add even more cap space.

Even if Campbell commanded a Tom Brady type contract, we would be able to sign him.

Can it actually be that Vinny and Snyder have it under control?

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Ugh return of the fakers...above is not me

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Ditto that, dpc2003. Springs is a class act and a great player; I wish him well in his last couple years of ability!

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

And yes, I'm a dick.

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth was an awesome pickup... An AFC ProBowl DT, with a nasty streak, who can collapse the pocket and occupy multiple blockers.

He will change the defensive dynamic -- allowing the front four to apply more pressure; while the back seven cover or fire zone blitz.

Hall for Springs makes sense. They are similar CBs. However, Hall will still be playing NFL football in five years...

Posted by: siris | February 27, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Ugh return of the fakers...above is not me

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 6:31


In the time of chimpanzees, I was.....me.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

They finally let me out of the Psych Ward after my 8 hour rant on this here blog back in July. Glad to be back.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

OK, suppose the Redskins do sign DDock.. should they think about trading down with their 13th pick?

- The draft is deep in O-Line
- The 3 highest OL may already be gone by 13th, so why waste that pick on a guy who'd be available early in the second?

Here's my fantasy: identify the team most likely to finish LAST in the NFL next year (Seattle, Detroit, Cleveland, Tampa Bay?), and trade 13 to them for a second this year and a first next year.

I say this for 2 reasons:

first, wouldn't it be bad luck to pick at 13 anyway?

second -- and you knew this was coming -- next year they can pick Taylor Mays!!!

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Kelli Johnson with Sportsnet just reported that Dock was offered a deal at Midnight but he did not accept - I assume she meant that the Skins offered him the deal. Guess Dock wants to explore all the options before making a decision.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 27, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

We don't pick up Evans and we sign AH.....who knew the number 92 would cost $100 Million?

Posted by: BostonWarPath | February 27, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

But now that I take my meds, they tell me that it won't happen anymore. I just want to be like my buddy, chris larry.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

The Skins have to sign LG Dockery...

That would leave the top opened positions as RT, SLB, and RG heading into the draft -- which just happen to be the strengths for a team picking 13th.

BTW, #13 is worth 1,150 points on the draft value chart. A fair trade would be #13(1,150) for #22(780) + #54(360). Next year's first round pick is valued like this year's second. So a trade of #13 for #54 + #54 would be worth only 720 points...


Posted by: siris | February 27, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Great, now can we trade Haynesworth for a couple of firsts?

I'm just thinking outside the box, okay?

And I hate the "thinking outside the box" expression too.

I wonder if this means they might consider moving Lorenzo Alexander to the O-line?

Posted by: SteveMG | February 27, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

In the spirit of childishness, I pass along this tidbit from the free agency wire:

Dolphins | Fagg to work out
Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:33:27 -0800

Harvey Fialkov, of the South Florida SunSentinel, reports the Miami Dolphins will work out street free-agent WR De'Cody Fagg Monday, March 2. Fagg tore his ACL at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine and went undrafted in the 2008 NFL Draft.

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins are able to bring Dockery back into the fold....it would make sense for them to trade back in the 1st round if they are going OL.

If they are thinking LB or DT/DE....well then staying at # 13 depending on how was there would be harder to leave.

Though I think trading back from the # 13 and stockpiling some 2nd and 3rd round, etc picks isn't a bad idea.

The Youth Movement CONTINUES!!!

GO SKINS!

Posted by: goosedude | February 27, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or does Haynesworth come off as pretty intelligent?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 27, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who want to fantasize (like me) about trading down options, here's a great value chart: http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

I'd love to see us trade out of #13 (and a 3rd) for Detroit's #20 and #32. We could land Alex Mack and a LB that way...

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

How about #13 for #33 this year and #1 next? That is 580+580, or 1160, more than this year's 1350.

Now, if the other team felt they would NOT be DFL in the NFL, then they should throw in some more late round picks this year, right?

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I especially like picking up Mack at #20 if we trade down because we could work him out at RG next year and if Rinehart develops we move Mack to take over for Rabach in 2010.

Methinks I like this.

Lorenzo Alexander for RT! Haha...

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"I wonder if this means they might consider moving Lorenzo Alexander to the O-line?

Posted by: SteveMG | February 27, 2009"

Good post.

Interesting ideas. 2 firsts? It would be worth it. But Snidely would never do it.

Lorenzo to the O-line? Might help.

Right now, the draft, all 4 picks, should all be offensive selections. Hopefully lineman who can compete for positions this coming year.

But I suspect it will be Orapko if he is available or one of the other linebackers they seem to associate with the team in the mock drafts.

The OL is going to be left twisting in the wind again.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

sorry, LESS. Guess they would have to pony up more late round pix.

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Q&A With: Andre Carter

The Redskins defensive end spoke with Warpath about the signing of Albert Haynesworth and the departure of some
teammates. He’s sad to see Shawn Springs go, but that’s not who he’ll miss the most.

Q: What do you think of the signing?

A: Honestly, this is just another addition to a great defense, a player that will come help us out. We’ve talked about
having a push in the middle. Having a big tackle that can do that will definitely help us out in the long run as far as not
only on the line, but in the backfield. It will force turnovers and get interceptions that we need and bring that
momentum.

Q: How much have you seen him play?

A: All I’ve seen are highlights and I’ve admired him. He’s been playing his butt off. From what I know is he’s very
respected. I heard he intimidated offensive linemen and the offensive side of the ball. He’s a great addition.

Q: How does this free you up?

A: It does provide the one on one, not only for myself but for Jason and whoever is lined up next to Haynesworth at
the other tackle position. I’ve seen time in and time out where he’s double and triple teamed. Someone has to win, no
doubt about it. The man is taking up two or three guys. It helps me and Jason because there were times during the
season last year=2 0where I’m double teamed to the point where I’m going against a tackle and all of a sudden a
guard comes out of nowhere blasts me good. That can be kind of frustrating.

Q: That must be very frustrating.

A: You’re like I’m so close, but when the other guy comes in it makes things difficult for you and the opportunities are
so slim. You want to do inside moves but you know this guard or the running back is protecting that side so taking
chances is limited. But with Albert there and Jason and the other guys coming back it makes things more open. The
level of communication, as far as chances we can take and the tackles blasting up field and we’re coming underneath,
those are more available.

Q: What about Shawn Springs leaving?

A: I had a few great years with him. It’s the nature of the business. I wish him well. I hope he gets picked up and
continues to play hard. He’s a great guy; I’m sure his presence will be missed. The other one was Marcus because
you can’t replace a guy like that. Not only in football, but in life itself. His level of energy…When I came here he
helped me stay relaxed. He taught me to live in the moment. That’s one of the guys I’ll truly miss. He gave me a
second chance of playing this game and looking at football in a different perspective.

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth immediately addressed a certain Cowboys incident and the best moment." The tension will begin to mount at some point in anticipation of the first Skins/Boys meeting of 2009 where Albert and Andre will be on the field together for the first time since the infamous head stomping incident. What will transpire?

1. Will Gurode opt for a "triple strap" helmet (a back-up for the back-up) to ensure that he doesn't lose his hat again?
2. Will Gurode go on a bathing strike to ensure maximum damage to Albert's olfactory nerves when they "body up"?
3. Will Gurode begin to work feverishly on a new undetectable holding technique with which to fluster and enrage the big guy again?

We await with baited breath the onset of the matchup.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | February 27, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

any other notable siginings/ trades besides vrabel, winslow, i can't check espn from here

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

The Haynesworthless signing helping Carter and Taylor? It better help Zorn or he's gone. Vinny the Ninny will never take the fall if this thing turns into a big blunder , which it could. Remeber when the OBC couldn't win with the garbage that Vinny gave him and Vinny threw the hissy fit in the Snyder box. I still like the Stubblefield 2 comment. Give me ten more London Fletcher guys at reasonable salaries and I will give you a great defense.

Posted by: pjente | February 27, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

SAD, SAD DAY. WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT THIS ACQUISITION WILL BE WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE. WHAT A POOR DECISION. THIS GUY WILL BE A HUGE BUST. THE TEAM HAS SO MANY MORE IMPORTANT NEEDS ON OFFENSE. WHAT THE HELL ARE DANNY AND VINNY THINKING? THIS IS DISGUSTING.

Posted by: all_star_0013 | February 27, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

By the way, there is NFC East buzz that Brian Dawkins has signed with the Denver Broncos. a saftey we have seen twice a year since 1996!

Posted by: erleach | February 27, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or does Haynesworth come off as pretty intelligent?

Posted by: scampbell1975


He stomped on a Cowboy, didn't he?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 27, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

all_star_0013, don't judge until you see! He can instantly make everyone better. Also, I'm very relieved Hall signed, he's a kind a player that we didn't have, a player that can make a single play and change the game, an interception for a touchdown, we had ZERO defensive touchdowns last year. He's a PLAYMAKER, yeah, we don't have many of them. If we can score some on defense, and our offense improves and reaches the 21 point mark every game, we'll be fine.

Posted by: rachel216 | February 27, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

all_star,

Name me the FA's on offense who we should have braught in, who would have helped us more then AH?

There is still money and time to sign an O-linmen.

The all caps thing makes people on here not take what you say seriously.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

All kidding aside, if I were Vinny I wouldn't stay at #13. Look at the past 5 yrs and the #13 pick -

08 Jonathon Stewart RB Carolina
(notable #24 Chris Johnson RB Tenn)
07 Adam Carriker NT St Louis
(notable #25 Jon Beason LB Carolina)
06 Kamerion Wimbley OLB Cleveland
(notable #19 Antonio Cromartie CB San Diego, #25 Santonio Holmes WR Pitt, #30 Joseph Addai RB Ind)
05 Jammal Brown T New Orleans
(notable #24 Aaron Rodgers QB Green Bay, #25 Jason Campbell)
04 Lee Evans WR Buffalo
(notable #24 Steven Jackson RB St Louis)

#13 has been quite unlucky. Better value in the later picks.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or does Haynesworth come off as pretty intelligent?

Posted by: scampbell1975


He stomped on a Cowboy, didn't he?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 27, 2009 7:21 PM

That makes him phuking brilliant in my book.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 27, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

After landing the biggest prize of them all in free agency, DT Albert Haynesworth, the Redskins are not done shopping.

PFW has learned they'll meet with Cowboys DE Chris Canty today and could sign him in short order. It is not clear if Canty, a 3-4 end who played locally in college at Virginia, projects to end of tackle in the Redskins' 4-3 defensive scheme.

Canty also has three other visits scheduled — he plans to meet with the Titans, who suddenly have a big gap at defensive tackle, on Saturday; the Seahawks on Monday and the 49ers thereafter.

But it might not get that far. What is clear is that Canty is not returning to Dallas, as the Cowboys appear to have let him shop himself around with little resistance. And Canty might not even leave Ashburn, Va., as we hear the Redskins could make a hefty offer that might make Canty cancel the other free-agent visits.


http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+East/Washington/Features/2009/edholm022709.htm

Posted by: filmchis | February 27, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

The questions regarding Haynesworth and Hall are not about talent. Its all the other stuff.

For example, if Dockery is still a good player (I don't know what he did in Buffalo), did the signing of Haynesworth cost us a chance as signing Dockery?

Haynesworth is a major impact player, but Dockery fills a bigger need. Plus, obviously, you can sign Dockery and another quality player (or 2) with the $$$ given to Haynesworth.

I'm aware of what Haynesworth can do, but in terms of problems the Spaghetti Gang needed to address, DT was down on the list. LG was at the top.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

filmchis,

I'd be curious to know what time that was posted on PFW. Everything I've heard is that the Skins called Canty's agent and cancelled the visit. Smokescreen perhaps?

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

CL -- on the #13 pick, I think you may be a little overly focused. I did a look at the guys picked between 11-15 -- more representative of the talent available around 13. Lots of of excellent guys go between 11-15.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

As for Andre Carter talking about how Haynesworth would help him by redcuing double teams ... sorry Andre ... I watched. You got manhandled, 1 on 1, time after time after time. You hustled and never quit, but you made too many guys look like Jim Lachey at his best.

The Skins need to put Jason Taylor in Carter's and either move Carter to the other side or put Carter on the bench.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Where is the outrage over giving Bart Scott 48 million?

Posted by: GreatOne1 | February 27, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

PFW has learned they'll meet with Cowboys DE Chris Canty today and could sign him in short order. It is not clear if Canty, a 3-4 end who played locally in college at Virginia, projects to end of tackle in the Redskins' 4-3 defensive scheme.

Canty also has three other visits scheduled — he plans to meet with the Titans, who suddenly have a big gap at defensive tackle, on Saturday; the Seahawks on Monday and the 49ers thereafter.

But it might not get that far. What is clear is that Canty is not returning to Dallas, as the Cowboys appear to have let him shop himself around with little resistance. And Canty might not even leave Ashburn, Va., as we hear the Redskins could make a hefty offer that might make Canty cancel the other free-agent visits.


http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+East/Washington/Features/2009/edholm022709.htm

Posted by: filmchis | February 27, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse
This was reported earlier this morning, but from what I understand, Canty's meetings in Ashburn have been cancelled.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 27, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

dawkins signed with denver its been confirmed

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

The pluses regarding Haynesworth and Hall
1. Great talent
2. Prime of their careers
3. Hall matches up well with the talents of NFC East WRs
4. A top DT is more valuable in the NFC East than any other division

The minuses
1. Little cap space for signing OL, our biggest need position
2. Both Hall and Haynesworth seemed to step up their game when contracts were on the line
3. Hall chose to play for the Raiders. Winners don't choose to play in Oakland.
4. Both have significant character risks
5. Haynesworth has significant injury risk
6. We may sacrifice depth on the DL, where we rotate players a lot

(consider this a work in progress)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

theres lots of talk of teams wanting to trade down, not up.not sure why people think its as easy as it is in madden

Posted by: hcicron | February 27, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80eb165e&campaign=ec0009

Is there any way we can steal this commentator away from Tennessee too? He's adorable.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | February 27, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

"The Skins need to put Jason Taylor in Carter's and either move Carter to the other side or put Carter on the bench.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009"

It sounds like they move Taylor to linebacker (240 pounds is way too small for a DE). He has a heck of a motor and might do well at that position. He does stop the run.

I think you might see Montgomery moving to DE if they lose Evans. These would all be moves to facilitate run stopping. Then have linebackers and pass down DE's come in in certain situations. Another apparent possibility would be the return of Philip Daniels who is a good run stopper. That may end up being Collins along with Jackson and/or Wilson. Both of those guys ought to be linebackers except they don't stop the run well.

I am hoping for an OT in the 13th. I suspect they will go linebacker as they do need help (Washington and McIntosh) and the focus seems to be on the defense.

It may be they will be able to trade that pick and move down in the draft to select what they need with the additional picks. Perhaps that is the best scenario. Certainly the OL continues to have the most pressing needs.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse


Saaaaaaaaaaack! It's Albert Haynesworth. What a great vid.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

CL -- on the #13 pick, I think you may be a little overly focused. I did a look at the guys picked between 11-15 -- more representative of the talent available around 13. Lots of of excellent guys go between 11-15.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

That's right, zcezcest. But more than that, you have a much higher probability of getting a starter in the 11-15 range than you do in the 22-32 range. More busts as you go higher. So give me the 13th pick anyday over the 14th or higher.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 27, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

"Is there any way we can steal this commentator away from Tennessee too? He's adorable.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | February 27, 2009"

Pure "chick crack" bullwinkle .. :)

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

"That's right, zcezcest. But more than that, you have a much higher probability of getting a starter in the 11-15 range than you do in the 22-32 range. More busts as you go higher. So give me the 13th pick anyday over the 14th or higher.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 27, 2009"

If they had the 4 picks in the 1st round between 11-15 that would be perfect. They could fix the OL and add a decent OLB. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

GIANTS CLOSE TO A DEAL WITH BOLEY
Posted by Mike Florio: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:59 PM
The New York Giants are closing in on their first free-agent signing of the 2009 offseason.

According to Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, the Giants have agreed on the "basic parameters" of an agreement with Falcons linebacker Michael Boley.

The Giants also are hosting Giants defensive tackle Rocky Bernard. Tomorrow, Cowboys defensive end Chris Canty arrives.

Canty was supposed to visit the Redskins on Friday, but the arrival of defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth left the 'Skins with insufficient cap room. Or maybe they feared that Haynesworth would try to eat Canty. Or a little of both.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 27, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Six Flags down to 24 cents per share. Guess Danny's pocketbook isn't hurting too bad. Wait til you see Big Al's face plastered all over the theme park this year. And check out the new ride. It'll be called The Saaaaaaaaaack!

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I think you might see Montgomery moving to DE if they lose Evans. These would all be moves to facilitate run stopping.
Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Monty would stop the off-tackle, but what about the sweep. I'm not sure he has the speed to cover the flat.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 27, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

If they had the 4 picks in the 1st round between 11-15 that would be perfect. They could fix the OL and add a decent OLB. Unfortunately, that is not the case.


Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse
What I am saying is that sometimes it's better to get one starter than to have 2 players that cannot start.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 27, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

he would look like renaldo wynn, god that dude was slow

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Just heard on the local station here that Dr. Z of SI has passed away due to complications from his stroke. Man, that sucks. I really liked that guy. RIP, bro.

Posted by: chris_larry | February 27, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll stay classy, but hey-- he lived to see Art Monk make it to the hall at least!

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

What? Too soon?

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 27, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80eb165e&campaign=ec0009

Is there any way we can steal this commentator away from Tennessee too? He's adorable.
Posted by: hokiesmokie | February 27, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Jeez this dude is quick for a big guy. Just watch the last highlight versus the Chief's Left Tackle. He just shoved him back and stepped right in to that gap and made the sack.

"It's ALbert HAYNESworth", haha nice inflection on the name

Posted by: BostonWarPath | February 27, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

from zcezcest1: The pluses regarding Haynesworth and Hall
1. Great talent
2. Prime of their careers
3. Hall matches up well with the talents of NFC East WRs
4. A top DT is more valuable in the NFC East than any other division

Actually you missed one, a big one. The two glaring weaknesses of the Skins last year were (a) coulldn't score points on offense and (b) defense had no sacks, interceptions, forced fumbles or turnovers of any kind (even the apple variety). You aren't going to solve (a) by geting a stud LT. You are also going to need improvements in (i) QB, (ii) receivers and (iii) play selection as well. On the other hand, there was one standout reason to explain glaring weakness (b) - a toothless DL that couldn't apply any QB pressure. Getting AH, while expensive, goes a long way towards solving that problem. Also, keep in mind that the draft offers more potential to solve weakness (a) with a stud LT such as Andre Smith than it does to solve weakness (b) with the likes of Oropko or Rajjii who are light years away from being a AH look-alike. So the FO did the right thing, blowing their FA wad where it could do the most good with AH and using the draft as a means of restocking the OL.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | February 27, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The Skins need to figure out how to score more points on offense. Last year we scored 2 more points than the Raiders, and 3 points less than the Lions.

I have no problem with Snyder signing Haynesworth. It's bold, it's aggressive, and it's a move for the better. I like that.

For those of you riding Jason Campbell, stop being so short sighted. The offensive line MUST be fixed. Save your "lack of intelligence and/or courage" remarks for Tony Romo, who has a much better offensive line and look back at a little Skins hisory. Let's go back 10 years on QBs:


1997 Gus Feroette
1998 Trent Green
1999 Brad Johnson
2000 Brad Johnson
2001 Tony Banks
2002 Patrick Ramsey/ Danny Wurfell/Shane Matthews
2003 Patrick Ramsey
2004 Patrick Ramsey/ Mark Brunnell
2005 Mark Brunell
2006 Mark Brunell
2007 Jason Campbell


After leaving here, Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl, while Trent Green and Gus Frerotte became starting NFL QBs for another decade (Gus Frerotte was recently cut and replaced in Minnesota by Sage Rosenfels, a 2001 Skins draft pick).

Remember when people were calling for Mark Rypien's head, or questioning the leadership ability of Doug Williams? Some of you youngsters may not. But I remember they played like all-stars when they got an O-line that could actually protect them.

Bottom line, most of the QBs have been talented enough, as they've proven elsewhere. JC is as talented and smart as anyone else on that list (save possibly Ramsey, who may be the smartest on the list). He's not John Elway or Dan Marino (very few are), but give him a real O-line and he'll get 'er done.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 27, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Skins should go local and sign Elton Brown, Eric Barton and Ron Bartell

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | February 27, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

The Skins need to figure out how to score more points on offense.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 27, 2009 8:34 PM

I think we've given the offense up as a hopeless cause. We've got a different plan: score more points on defense.

Offense? Defense? What difference does it make? All that matters is that we have more points on the board at the end of the game than the other team.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 27, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

TE, you may be right. The offense has been stuck in neutral for over a decade. A scoring defense? Brilliant!

Posted by: Alan4 | February 27, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

AntonChigurh -- you talked about what Albert is capable of, I had listed great talent -- sort of a catch all for the things you mentioned

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like they move Taylor to linebacker (240 pounds is way too small for a DE). He has a heck of a motor and might do well at that position. He does stop the run.

Posted by: periculum

Jason Taylor is a strong candidate to go the HOF. Playing RDE. Stick the HOF talent at his best position. RDE.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

If you're going to be nitpicky zz then you have to remove the Oakland Raiders thing from the list. That was a money thing and is subjective, not fact. You could say the same thing about the Skins. 2) I don't consider DL rotation a depth risk. Most teams rotate the DL pretty heavily. Also, rotation gives younger/backup players time on the field, hence experience, thus making our backups better.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 27, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Didn't know he was available, but Skins should look at WR Brandon Jones, ex Titan. Modest stats, 4 year vet, but better than either rookie by a lot. One of those guys who can be had a reasonable price in an area of need

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we won't have to worry about seeing the Housh twice a year in Philly. He came off as quite an a$$.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 27, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

The one thing that concerns me with the Haynesworth signing is how much the defense next year is going to predicated on his play. To be real, Haynesworth hasn't been the model of duribility. Zorn mentioned how the skins plan to move Haynesworht up and down the line to produce matchup problems to produce sacks and turnovers. Which is a great idea IF Haynesworth is on the fiel.d I'm hoping that Haynesworth will be a difference maker, and that he plays a full 18-19 games.

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling we will sign Dockery next week. I thinkhe wants to come here to be reunited with his buddy Samuels, and FO wants him. Vinny made a comment today on TV that if Dock was watching, "come home". I think we are letting him test the market to determine his value. If that happens, I will be very happy with our moves in free agency.

Posted by: frediefritz | February 27, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse


"Today, with the Redskins having handed Haynesworth a deal worth $100 million all by itself, you wonder if history is again repeating itself? You wonder if the Redskins are making the same mistake over and over again? And you wonder why anyone in Washington would be all that confident that things will turn out differently this time?"
Don Banks
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/02/27/haynesworth/index.html?eref=T1

Posted by: all_star_0013 | February 27, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

DonBanks is a huge Tony Danza lookalike d bag. He talked some stupid sh!t last year and I emailed him to call him on it. Needless to say he didn't respond. (To put that in perspective he was 1 of 2 people that didn't respond to emails. The other was Stephen A. Smith. I wrote around 15 of them to sports commentators last year.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 27, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Great, now can we trade Haynesworth for a couple of firsts?

I'm just thinking outside the box, okay?

And I hate the "thinking outside the box" expression too.

I wonder if this means they might consider moving Lorenzo Alexander to the O-line?

Posted by: SteveMG | February 27, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff. Made me laugh.

Lorenzo on O-line isn't a bad thought...he has played both ways, right?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | February 27, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

If you're going to be nitpicky zz then you have to remove the Oakland Raiders thing from the list. That was a money thing and is subjective, not fact. You could say the same thing about the Skins. 2) I don't consider DL rotation a depth risk. Most teams rotate the DL pretty heavily. Also, rotation gives younger/backup players time on the field, hence experience, thus making our backups better.

Posted by: scampbell1975 |

not being nitpicky at all. No one goes to the Raiders expecting to be with a winner. Raiders are actually pushed pretty hard against the cap because players will only stay if they get paid. I want guys who want to win.

As for rotation depth, you're right about the young guys getting in, whether they cut it or not. It appears Evans is gone, which doesn't seem like a good thing.

Of note -- Taylor + Carter + Haynesworth add up to something around $28million per year. That's 22% of the cap for 3 guys!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

You guys are going to love Albert. He's an amazing force. I've seen him leap over a center to tackle the RB in the backfield. You'll find yourself shaking your head and asking, how did he do that?

Pete in Nashville.

Posted by: ptmacp | February 28, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I think Haynesworth will be another Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson.

Posted by: josettes | March 1, 2009 2:12 AM | Report abuse

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