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Haynesworth Impresses

Pro Bowl defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth made a good impression on his new teammates during minicamp and the first session of organized training activities, which ended today.

"Albert just came out here and is one of the guys," quarterback Jason Campbell said. "You know what he brings to your football team on the field, but it's important to see how guys are in the locker room and with their teammates.

"Even if you hear good things about someone from [other players or coaches] you know around the league, you still like to judge things for yourself. Albert is a great addition on every level. This is the time of year when you want to start building that chemistry with everyone, and it's happening now. It's great that we have him. It's great that he's here."

Shortly after the Redskins lured Haynesworth, a two-time All-Pro selection, from the Tennessee Titans in February, cornerback DeAngelo Hall described Haynesworth as "the best player in football." He also is impressed with Haynesworth as a person. "He's the type of guy you want to have as your teammate," Hall said.

The Washington Redskins also announced they signed wide receiver Keith Eloi and released punter Zac Atterberry.

By Jason Reid  |  May 7, 2009; 4:27 PM ET
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Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

first

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Best defense in the league this year.

Posted by: brian58 | May 7, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth seemed like an incredibly friendly, low-key guy when he was introduced at his press conference. I'm just trying to figure out how this is the same person who stomped on Andre Gurode and nearly killed another driver in a reckless driving incident.

Hope the "good" Haynesworth sticks around-- except when he's in the trenches during a game, of course.

Posted by: drischord | May 7, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

HE BETTER IMPRESS FOR $100 MILLION. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT??

Also, he has the highest attendance rating amongst any player.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

4th?

I hope Hayensworth is worth the money they signed him for.

Btw i Heard that Eloi kid Did good in the minicamps and all.
one thing i know about him already is he got hops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6QAdHUSrWM

Posted by: redskinsfan01 | May 7, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

HE BETTER IMPRESS FOR $100 MILLION. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT??

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 4:42 PM

I EXPECT THAT FOR $100 MILLION HE BETTER SELL A LOT OF JERSEYS.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

It's too early to say what direction Obama is taking us.

He is F'ing up big time with ending that school voucher program. Especially since a few kids from that program are in the same school hihs daughters go to. High Hypocrissy is in effect. Ofcourse that's only a local issue that deals with the inner city, so no one of influence really cares......

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

TE - Count me in on buying one. Ching!

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

He is F'ing up big time with ending that school voucher program. Especially since a few kids from that program are in the same school hihs daughters go to.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 4:46 PM

If you like unions, you hate school vouchers and you bail out the automakers.

I'm betting that no kid leaves Sidwell Friends because they lost their vouchers. Sidwell has a fairly rich scholarship fund and pride themselves on diversity -- even though they were not the first integrated private school in DC.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

He is F'ing up big time with ending that school voucher program. Especially since a few kids from that program are in the same school hihs daughters go to. High Hypocrissy is in effect. Ofcourse that's only a local issue that deals with the inner city, so no one of influence really cares......

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 4:37 PM

Apparently you haven't read all of today's paper: Obama has proposed giving the voucher program a reprieve
Where is your concern for the kids who still have to go to public school. Why let a few kids go to private school on the public dime while the rest founder? More money should be used to fix the public schools so that all children can get a good education.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 7, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to bring this forward from last thread, but I wanted to comment.

>>>They also weren't the ones who sent La. National Guardsmen to Iraq: guardsmen who should've been evacuating the clueless people who thought a delta clapboard shack of a house could withstand 100 mph winds.

Gotta jump in here. I am personally and professionally familiar with the situation as it developed pre, during, and post storm. Lots of blame to go around for the Katrina thing. A) The NWS was recurve into FL centric for WAY too long and FINALLY shifted the track west at 5:00 pm Friday night. B) Louisiana and New Orleans officials were slow to react to developing information and significantly increasing danger pre-impact. C) The FEDS deferred to the State and local officials pre and during event and only jumped in until AFTER it was obvious to all that they were overwhelmed by the severity of the event. D) People who failed to excercise personal responsibilty for thier own and their family's safety.

As to the comment I snipped above: People staying in a shack etc in the face of Katrina is, in my view, merely proof of natural selection. The information was readily available to all. Katrina was not a sneak attack of the central Gulf Coast. Decisions have consequences, and some of those consequences are quite severe.

The last thing I personally want is the government acting as my mother or nanny forcing me to stay, go, get a flu shot, etc etc etc. IF I make bad choices (and I have) I am willing (and I do) live with the results of my choices.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Keith Eloi also impresses

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4584477/12272412

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 4:43 PM

JUMP OUT DA POOL ON DAT!!!!!

Posted by: Club320 | May 7, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

sfik, well written....I completely agree....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 7, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

4th, Obama is eliminating programs that don't function well so he can put that money into programs that have been proven to work. I for one am glad someone has the balls to stop throwing money at education programs that don't work and funding ones that do. It is never easy to cut funding for education especially since at some level and in some places the programs work, maybe what you are referring to at Sidwell Friends, but overall they aren't successful. That's not easy but what it shows is leadership and the ability to make the tough choices that no one else wanted to make b/c people automatically want to cry that you are cutting education. We all know that education in this country has some of the most wasteful spending b/c no one wants to speak up when programs don't work. If we cut ones that don't work we can make the ones the do that much more effective.

Posted by: forever8-8 | May 7, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I am for all schools. The public school system has failed because of the business model.

You can say the same thing about kids who get pulled from public schools to charter schools. I pulled my son out of public schools (PG Countty) to put him in a charter school because I was concerned for his (1) well being and (2) lack of him receiving an education because class would always be disrupted (Dem Palm Park kids are crazy)...

And I applaud him for revisiting the issue. The link didn't work though...

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

School vouchers is the homeschooling crowd putting a pretty face on de-funding public schools. My kids go to public schools in DC (and not charter schools). Schools get better if parents get involved, not by sending poor kids to private schools. [Charter schools are more insidious, they take public money, outside the rules that apply to public schools, and rob public schools of the parents who would get involved.] Save me the "inner city" crap.

Posted by: dcsween | May 7, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

not easy but what it shows is leadership and the ability to make the tough choices that no one else wanted to make b/c people automatically want to cry that you are cutting education.

Posted by: forever8-8 | May 7, 2009 4:55 PM

What it shows in kowtowing to the unions, preservation of the status quo by a President whose electoral theme was "change." That's not "tough choices."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

jeez, doesn't WaPo have other places for political stuff? I'm pretty sure they do

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Schools get better if parents get involved,

Posted by: dcsween | May 7, 2009 5:01 PM

Then you ought to send your kids to private schools. I thought I'd seen involvement at the Oyster School, but in the private schools it is way over the top. And, I actually think the private schools would work better with a bit less parental involvement.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Z, it's the off-season.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 7, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

What it shows in kowtowing to the unions, preservation of the status quo by a President whose electoral theme was "change." That's not "tough choices."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

jeez, doesn't WaPo have other places for political stuff? I'm pretty sure they do

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

TE, you know how bad I want to say something but I do not want to see a string where you tear into me for drawing a line between talking politics on this Redskin Blog and Redskin TIX on this blog...

JUMP OUT DA POOL ON DAT!!!!!

Posted by: Club320 | May 7, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

jeez, doesn't WaPo have other places for political stuff? I'm pretty sure they do

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 5:02 PM

You have to be kidding. This is Washington DC. The nation's capital. Every place is a place for political discussion. Politics 'R' Us.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

The thing is, voucher and charter school programs are out there. There are not enough spots for everyone, but there are enough for some at this point and time.

Should I leave my kid in a 'NCLB' (underperforming) school when I know there are other choices? SJK No. And I made the choice. Where should I be falted?

It's really not the school's fault, though. Nor the politicians. It's the parents' fault. I see it all the time. I go to PTAs and at my son's public school PTA, the most we would get is 3 or 4 parents. We offered free pizza one time and got 6 parents. At the charter school he goes to now, there are like an average of 30-40 parents. And we actually do activities for the kids. Parent involement is humongous.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

TE, you know how bad I want to say something but I do not want to see a string where you tear into me for drawing a line between talking politics on this Redskin Blog and Redskin TIX on this blog...

JUMP OUT DA POOL ON DAT!!!!!

Posted by: Club320 | May 7, 2009 5:05 PM

How many times are you going to post this same post today? You did your ad five times in an hour, so I expect to see this one a half-dozen or so.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

What it shows in kowtowing to the unions, preservation of the status quo by a President whose electoral theme was "change." That's not "tough choices."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Change doesn't happen overnight,my friend, it's only been 4 months and frankly he's got a lot more on his plate than just education, he's still going to be cleaning up the mess of the last eight years for the next couple years. It's not like "No Child Left Behind" was a resounding success, if anything it left more children behind then pushed them ahead.

Posted by: forever8-8 | May 7, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I know it upset you that, when there was a beep and you REposted your "clever" comments and I kept jumping behind them it upset you. PEACE FRIEND...

Posted by: Club320 | May 7, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

please, keep talking politics, I,m gonna go over to the polittics section to see if someone wants to talk football

Posted by: steveets | May 7, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

So the BIG news is that the Skins now only have ONE punter on the roster ... still two kickers, but my money says Suisham. TONS of college KRs on the roster. Two PRs (ARE and Dorsey).

Posted by: dcsween | May 7, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/06/AR2009050603852.html

After reading the article, that is bullcrap. Basically new opportunities are cut off for students trying to get in.

Sween - As I stated above, I am one of very few parents involved in my child's former public school. He went 3 years to that underperforming school only to get worse by the year. Where is the issue with me trying to pull my child out and put him in a better school?

The only way is to do that is to move, but there are big logistic issues that would prevent me from moving into my ideal district. So, vouchers and charter schools are the next best choice. All the other kids and their parents have the same choice. And, it's always a lottery to get in. That's how we got in.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

How does all of these signing work? Are the contracts contingent on them making the final roster?

Posted by: Redskins001 | May 7, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

As far as Haynesworth, I'm glad to hear he's fitting in and jelling with his teamates , and I hope he has an all pro year. As with most people there's a good side and a bad side, and with some people there's more good to them, and with others there's more bad. If you push the right buttons you'll bring out the "BAD" in just about anybody. Hopefully for us both Bridges and Haynesworth are ready to display more good now that their in a new situation.

As far as Obama, how can he be deemed incompetent? The guy just got in office.He sure as hell can't be any more incompetent than Bush was. Already you can tell he's more intelligent than Bush, more articulate, more knowledgeable on various issues, and the guy has been working his ass off to clean up the imcompetent mess that Bush and his cronies left behind.

Posted by: 72Redskins | May 7, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

4th, we went from about from about ten involved parents a few years ago and now we're closer to 50. It takes time to build momentum. [Also free food ... but there has to be something for people to do so that they feel its been worthwhile to come.]

Now back to special teams ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 7, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Checking out the tele-evangelical priest on the beach with the bikini babe, putting his hand down her panties, perhaps they should bring him in to be the Redskins padre/chaplain? Seems to fit the new "bad boy" motif"? Good name, Alberto Cutie'. ~smiles~ Kind of "chick crack" ol' Snidely likes. Sincerely doubt that he would wipe his mouth after Zorny's wife kissed him ...

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

As to the comment I snipped above: People staying in a shack etc in the face of Katrina is, in my view, merely proof of natural selection. The information was readily available to all. Katrina was not a sneak attack of the central Gulf Coast. Decisions have consequences, and some of those consequences are quite severe.

The last thing I personally want is the government acting as my mother or nanny forcing me to stay, go, get a flu shot, etc etc etc. IF I make bad choices (and I have) I am willing (and I do) live with the results of my choices.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

I could have sworn this was a Skins article, but what the hell. For 3 years I worked on the Emergency Response team in SC. Everyone working in this area knows that it is the responsibility of the government, from FEMA on down, to aid people who do not have private transportation to evacuate in emergencies. Blaming them is ludicrous. Look at any emergency response plan in the country, and at least on paper close to the top of the list is accomodating those with no private means of transportation. FEMA is SUPPOSED to, when it is run by someone other than an ex Arabian Horse Association president, review such plans, especially in high risk states, annually, and make sure these and other items are covered. Again, the government from the feds on down dropped the ball big time, and blaming the elderly, infirmed, and poor is about as lame as it gets.

Posted by: kenboy1 | May 7, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of hearing parents who raise kids that can't adapt to thier surroundings complain about the school system. Schools are'nt perfect and never will be. Guess what, all of them churn out losers AND winners. If your child does poorly in school, it's too easy to blame the school. Home school the kid, and see if you can do better.

Posted by: wewbank1 | May 7, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

How does all of these signing work? Are the contracts contingent on them making the final roster?

Posted by: Redskins001 | May 7, 2009 5:20 PM

It has to be. No way every team has to suffer through cap hits for guys who don't make the roster.

4th, I'm not singling you out ... every parent has to do what's best for their kid. Also, the Administration's stuff on vouchers are only the federal vouchers for DC kids. No other jurisdiction has federal involvement in local public school decision-making like the District does.

I don't need statehood. I don't want to be retroceded to Maryland. I just want the federal government to gets its hands off what anywhere else would be COMPLETELY municipality-level decisions. Also, I want the chance to vote for two senators every six years ... they don't have to be Senators representing DC ... just let me register in some State somewhere once every six years for a "Senator-only" vote. I want someone to write angry letters to.

Posted by: dcsween | May 7, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

AMEN, to kenboy1.

Posted by: 72Redskins | May 7, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

i wouldn't have firsted if i knew yall weren't gonna talk football.

Haynesworth was widely viewed as one of the best defensive players last year for most of the season. He should make and instant impact with concern to pass rush and run stuffing if his health is good . he should also be able to take some pressure off of the dbacks and backers. As a fan you look to the past and shudder at the possibilities of Big (not Fat) Al becoming stubby 2.0, but everything i've read about Haynesworth tells me that he is all about being a great football player.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

i wouldn't have firsted if i knew yall weren't gonna talk football.

Haynesworth was widely viewed as one of the best defensive players last year for most of the season. He should make and instant impact with concern to pass rush and run stuffing if his health is good . he should also be able to take some pressure off of the dbacks and backers. As a fan you look to the past and shudder at the possibilities of Big (not Fat) Al becoming stubby 2.0, but everything i've read about Haynesworth tells me that he is all about being a great football player.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Any word on if the REDSKINS are interested in Levi Jones just released by Cincinatti??

Seems if he came in for the right price it's a no brainer move to address the right side of the line or even provide insurance for Samuels.

Posted by: goosedude | May 7, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

For folks looking for football talk, check out the previous thread (the Horton one) for the chatter about free safety/strong safety ... mostly for the youtubes of Landry at LSU.

In the six in/six out game, thinking about how Baltimore made it to the playoffs, it occurs to me that the offseason improvements in the Skins defense might just be enough to add a few more to the W part of the W-L equation.

Offensive touchdowns are great, but if that's a problem, I got no problem getting myself pumped with some good old fashioned "lust for mayhem" on the D side of the roster.

Posted by: dcsween | May 7, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

kenboy...get your panties back out of the twist. Typical response of someone who apparently has poor reading and comprehension skills who exacerbates that infirmity with emotion based bigbrotherliness. Awesome.

I didn't blame the elderly or infirmed. I blamed those who made POOR CHOICES to care for themselves by CHOOSING BY THEMSELVES to take actions such as staying in less than optimal structures in the path of an oncoming CAT 5 storm even though they had the information and wherewithal to leave, REFUSING TO LEAVE via provided transport, and AWAITING the opening of the shelter of last resort, the Superdome.

People sometimes make STUPID choices, and sometimes those poor choices have extremely poor consequences and outcomes.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

How does all of these signing work? Are the contracts contingent on them making the final roster?

Posted by: Redskins001 | May 7, 2009 5:20 PM

------------------------------------------
001 - these contracts are pretty much meaningless unless they pay the player a signing bonus. They can cut the player the next day and there is no cap impact for the team. What they do is prevent these guys in camp from leaving and signing with someone else. It's a calculated risk for the player - the team may or may not keep him, but OTOH he may not get another offer at all if he doesn't sign. He would regret that decision, of course. Most of these signings will be terminated by the end of mini-camp, and some may even be re-signed AGAIN before or during July training camp.

Posted by: sysadb420 | May 7, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

People sometimes make STUPID choices, and sometimes those poor choices have extremely poor consequences and outcomes.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009 5:48 PM |

And when I do something like that, I like to be able to blame it on the government, especially George Bush. Or, global warming.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

LOL TE

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, back in the football blog, anyone have a clue regarding B Orakpo's rookie contract?

How much over last year's number 13 signing des he get?--I mean, I'm sure a guy about to get millions needs a cost of living adjustment.

We don't the Big "O" living on wish sandwiches and red kool aid.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 7, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"jeez, doesn't WaPo have other places for political stuff? I'm pretty sure they do
Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 5:02 PM
"You have to be kidding. This is Washington DC. The nation's capital. Every place is a place for political discussion. Politics 'R' Us.Posted by: talent_evaluator"

Actually, I agree with Zce on this one. Not that everybody's political opinions aren't completely fascinating, of course. Particularly talent_evaluator's experiences with schools, I find that thrilling.

But blogs are supposed to have topics, and stick to them, at least most of the time.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 7, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

People sometimes make STUPID choices, and sometimes those poor choices have extremely poor consequences and outcomes.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009

Nevertheless, one of #43's least sapient decisions was to dismantle and shred perhaps one of the best run of all the Federal Agencies, and that was FEMA. By incorporated it and the coast guard under the monstrous cloud of Homeland security he almost assuredly made them far less efficient and a thousand times less responsive. He vouchsafed for and placed at their respective heads some of the poorest possible agency heads and managers. Seems possible he did the same thing post-Iraq invasion? He was consistently poor at picking people, making good choices as far as creating policy.

Historians rank 2 Republican presidents at the top and bottom of the list of all presidents. Consistently, the top is Lincoln, and the bottom US Grant. Perhaps Grant will now be supplanted by another Republican.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

We now return you to the sex scandal involving a popular tele-evanglical priest and his scantily clad companion on the beach. What would Liddy and Rush Limbaugh say ... ~smiles~

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the poster who would like to see the long snapping duties handled by a position player ~IF~ a reliable candidate could be found. This also brings up the need to have more than one who is at least "functional" as a relief long snapper as position players would be more likely to sustain injury than a LS specialist. The Steelers were in dire straights one game because their long snapper got injured.

Seems to me that having a position player handle the LS duties would allow JZ to carry an extra player at another position like OL, DB, LB etc.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

FYI...the real contract for albert is 4 years 48 million. Please stop refering to him as the 100 mil man. He will again be a free agent in his early 30's and we will have had him for 12 mil per year in his prime.
Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that having a position player handle the LS duties would allow JZ to carry an extra player at another position like OL, DB, LB etc.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009

As I recall a LS named Turk lost a chance for a superbowl when Danny had brought together the closest thing to the "Magnificent Seven" under Norval Turner. Seems he lost the game in the last second ... refused to return on the plane with the team. And not too long after died of Cancer.

Good LS is hard to find. They are critical as that example shows.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Moe, thanks for dropping "wish sandwich" up here. That makes me smile.

"A wish sandwich is the kind of a sandwich where you have two slices of bread -- either rye, or white, or pumpernickel -- and you sincerely wish you had some meat... bow bow bow..."

By the way, and I know you will find this interesting, wishsandwich.com is a real estate listing for a house in the Portland area. Weird.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 7, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

dc, nagin refused to evacuate because he was up for election, and if it turned out that the storm was nothing, he felt it would be detrimental politically. I'm not saying Bush is blameless, but Nagin deserves a large portion of the blame for this.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

I knew it was ALL Nagan's fault when...

he went to a political fundraiser instead of helping NO.

he overflew the city in Air Force One staring out the window, pretending to care...

When he lied about Federal aide...

When he flew in to say "heckuva job Brownie..."

When he added NO to his list of accomplishments like Iraq, finding bin Laden. and destroying the United States Economy.

What a wonderful choice of words:

"I'm not saying Bush is blameless..."

Priceless.

Couldn't you figure some way to blame it on Clintons' hummer?

Posted by: TheCork | May 7, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Skinsfan

'... having a position player handle the LS duties would allow JZ to carry an extra player at another position like OL, DB, LB etc....'


(INSERT applause audio and image of nodding and agreeing heads)

Using a position player as a LS makes sense as the team really needs to find a way to carry additional offensive lineman or defensive player to rotate in on game day.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 7, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Redskins' Orakpo is open to change
May 7, 2009 2:54 PM

Brian Orakpo, drafted 13th overall by the Washington Redskins in April's draft, may split time between linebacker and defensive end this season.

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

As an alum from a Big 12 South school, the departure of University of Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo is something I've been anticipating for years. He played a reserve role on Texas' national title team and by the time he finished his career, he was the best defensive end in the country. He's got Lombardi (best lineman), Hendricks (DE) and Nagurski (best defensive player) to show for his senior season in which he made 19 tackles behind the line of scrimmage and recorded 11.5 sacks.

With that in mind, I'm trying to determine why the Redskins' first order of business was moving him to strongside linebacker. That's where Orakpo lined up during a full-roster minicamp last weekend. Perhaps the Redskins were simply testing Orakpo, and they will eventually return him to being an every-down defensive end. Otherwise I'm not sure why they drafted him.

Orakpo spent the last four years playing with one hand in the dirt. From his rush-end position at Texas, he could line up on the outside shoulder of a left tackle and use his power and speed to hunt down quarterbacks. Playing the "SAM" linebacker position for the Redskins, he'd have to go through run/pass keys on first and second down, which doesn't exactly set you up for sacks.

Longtime scouts have told me that Orakpo could line up next to defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth and "fall into" several sacks per season. Haynesworth demands so much attention that Orakpo would have success similar to what Kyle Vanden Bosch had for the Titans. But for now, the Redskins have indicated that Orakpo will line up at defensive end on third downs and obvious passing situations.

So the Redskins finally take a defensive lineman on the first day of the draft -- and they're moving him to linebacker? It doesn't make any sense, but then, neither does freaking out over something in early May. (Would you expect anything less?)

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Kaneohe, I wonder if any team in the NFL has designated a position player to be long snapper? My guess is that every team carries a specialist in that role. Long snapping as a skill is simply too valuable to be trusted to someone other than a dedicated specialist. Hence the Red Snapper.

Yeah, it would be nice to know we have a solid backup/emergency long snapper other than Chris Cooley (didn't Cooley make a joke about having practiced to be our backup long snapper?). But that's why we keep Albright out of harm's way.

(Those specialists are truly precious. Good Christ, remember Danny Wuerffel's kickoff?)

And it goes both ways. Even when we lost a zillion O linemen last year, I don't remember Albright (ostensibly an emergency backup OL) getting any snaps, though I could be wrong on that.

Not sure what I'm trying to say here... what was the question?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 7, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

To Orakpo's credit, he's embracing the role. He played for the highest-paid defensive coordinator in the nation at Texas in Will Muschamp, a man who preaches versatility. I've seen Orakpo drop back in coverage, and he certainly doesn't look lost. But he's about to start lining up over tight ends such as Jason Witten and Kevin Boss -- at times. And he'll have to learn how to play with his hands more at the SAM position.

After conducting somewhere in the neighborhood of 23 interviews and posing for pictures, Orakpo was kind enough to visit with the Beast on Sunday. He was particularly excited about the time he spent with Haynesworth.

"My first reaction to meeting him was, 'Wow, this guy's huge,' said Orakpo. "It's impossible to block him one-on-one. With me and Haynesworth, it's going to be a great defensive line. We were doing our stunts together, and I think we'll have a lot in store for people."

It sounds as if Orakpo still thinks his primary position will be defensive end. That's the way he's listed on the team's roster right now. He said it was a "different feeling" lining up at linebacker throughout last weekend's minicamp.

"The good thing is it's a feeling I can be comfortable with," said Orakpo. "I'm not going to have a set position, so I'll be able to use my versatility as sort of a hybrid player. The biggest adjustment is all the different routes you're going to see. You don't want to look like you're a defensive end when you're covering guys. At defensive end, all we know is to get in a stance and rush the quarterback. At linebacker, you have to play the run and pass at the same time."

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Precisely the point that I attempted to make earlier in this column. The good thing for the Redskins is that Orakpo's a self-starter. He has maxed out on the bench press at 515 pounds and Texas strength and conditioning coach Jeff "Mad Dog" Madden used to chase him out of the weight room. In college, he took it upon himself to study pass-rushers such as Osi Umenyiora, Jason Taylor and DeMarcus Ware. He also won't have a steep learning curve when it comes to hating the Dallas Cowboys. Orakpo grew up a huge Oilers fan in Houston and still has a "Luv ya blue" jacket somewhere in his boyhood home.

"Dallas and Houston have always competed to see who has the best city," he said. "So I've never enjoyed the Cowboys."

Orakpo played against some of the best offensive tackles in the nation during his time in the Big 12, but there's one that he never faced. Former Baylor left tackle Jason Smith missed the 2007 Texas game with an injury and Orakpo had the same thing happen to him in '08. Smith went No. 2 overall to the St. Louis Rams, who will play the Redskins in Week 2.

"He was a tight end when we were starting our careers," said Orakpo. "And I've been waiting to square off for a long time. I definitely have that date circled on my calendar."

Smith told me recently that Orakpo was "hands-down the best defensive end in the country." But in the Redskins' scheme, it might be a part-time matchup. And in my mind, that would be a real shame.

The Redskins just lucked into perhaps the best pass-rusher in the draft. I, for one, would like to see what that looks like.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

'...Nagin deserves a large portion of the blame for this...'


And the Republican Governor of Miss.--Haley Barbour--doesn't?

C'mon--the failure to properly care for the people in the region in a timely fashion after the storm looks suspicously like the same failure to monitor the actions of greedy Wall Street executives and terrorists in Fl. learning to fly large airplanes for no apparent reason.

Bush was elected to replace the sense of 'dishonor' brought on from the Clinton administration.

And what was Clinton guilty of: getting a lil' sumthin', sumthin' on the government's dime.

Raise yur hand if you wish you could get a job like that?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 7, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The last thing I personally want is the government acting as my mother or nanny forcing me to stay, go, get a flu shot, etc etc etc. IF I make bad choices (and I have) I am willing (and I do) live with the results of my choices.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe |

Nobody cares whether you get a flu shot or not, unless it might help spread the contagion to me. Then it's betetr the government dictates it then mne, with my Glock .

Your is a nice simplistic argument that it fits the prejudice of anti-Government bias.. But sometimes the Government has to act for the common good, which is why they may require your defensless baby to get a shot, or provide police protection, or invade countries we dont' like, or protect you from poisoning yourself, or keep terrorists out, or make sure planes dont' crash, or levies hold, or keep roads open, or arrest mobsters, or keep that jacka$$ in front of your property from blocking your view, or dumping poison in your yard or not getting his dog a rabies shot and a million other things.


Right wing tools only want the Government when it serves them personally. Everyone else can go pi$$ up a rope. What else is new?

Posted by: TheCork | May 7, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

More money should be used to fix the public schools so that all children can get a good education.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 7, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse


Throwing money at the problem isn't a solution. Cash is a means to an end. What is the end?

I have several friends who are schoolteachers and they all say the same thing - the parents and kids who care/get involved are the ones that do well. That's it.

Posted by: p1funk | May 7, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Raise yur hand if you wish you could get a job like that?
Posted by: MistaMoe | May 7, 2009

I like Father Alberto Cutie's "job" better ... nothing like a nice frolic on the beaches near Miami.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

brian58 wrote:
Best defense in the league this year.

Try second-best defense in the NFC East behind the GIANTS.

Posted by: loux24 | May 7, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

brian58 wrote:
Best defense in the league this year.

Try second-best defense in the NFC East behind the GIANTS.

Posted by: loux24 | May 7, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I saw the highlight video of Orakpo. Basically, all he did was blow by guys. No sign of power or run defense. Just faster.

Mind you, I'm not against fast. But I think its a bigger asset when you're in open field stuff, which is what LBs do.

I have some doubts on whether the speed advantage he had over college OTs would show up as easily in the NFL.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

FYI...the real contract for albert is 4 years 48 million. Please stop refering to him as the 100 mil man. He will again be a free agent in his early 30's and we will have had him for 12 mil per year in his prime.
Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Diesel44
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Zactly... plus if he essentially gives us a 12-man defense b/c of the double-teaming required to deal with him (or conversely gives our opponents a 10-man offense), then he's 2 for the price of one, and quite a steal @ $12M/yr... All in all, a great signing. Kudos to Danno/Vinno on this one.

Posted by: chasgiffen | May 7, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

or keep that jacka$$ in front of your property from blocking your view,

Snidely, that you? Trees blocking your view? The g-men help you remove them? ... :)

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Moe you had me until "Bush was elected to replace the sense of 'dishonor' brought on from the Clinton administration."

Bush was not elected. He was appointed by the Supreme Court in a case whose ruling the Court said was “limited to the present circumstances” and could not be cited as precedent in any future cases.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 7, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Mind you, I'm not against fast. But I think its a bigger asset when you're in open field stuff, which is what LBs do.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009

Clearly better against the run from the standing start. Upper body huge, lower body not so strong. Can get manhandled by the big guys on the OL. Needs to be a bit more unfettered (like LaVar) to use his speed.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

On the political front --

To solve a problem you need to throw money at it.

I'm a problem.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

perky, speed and upper body strength kill along the d-line too. Orakpo is similar in size to Dwight Freeney who seems to be an OK player.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 7, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Popular recent topics.

1. I'm a republican who voted for O. I don't care about anyones political affiliation. Rep or Demo...I just like to party.

2. Levi Jones is still suffers from knee and leg problems. He has had a non-descript career since being the 10th pick in the draft in 2002. He doesn't represent an upgrade to 71, 74, or bridges. He ain't walking thru that door on a min contract either.

3. Orakpo is not Lavar. Lavar was a "freak" athlete while Orkapo is a "beast". LaVar was one of the most decorated players coming out of PSU while Orakpo is no slouch, the comparison is weak.

4. Last years rookie 2nd rd triplets represent the best chance for this Offense to make significant strides. I said earlier that they made zero impact last year. I will change that to minimal because they did combine for 1 TD.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Right wing tools only want the Government when it serves them personally. Everyone else can go pi$$ up a rope. What else is new?

Posted by: TheCork | May 7, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse


Actually most right wing tools prefer that most governmental activities/decisions take place on a local level, most left wing tools don't understand that.

The right wing tools just don't think that a handful of appointees in DC really have what it takes to properly address the needs/issues of an incredibly diverse 250mill person population. Left wing tools seem to think that those handful of people can as long as we keep taxing everyone to give that handful of people a big budget to work with (or waste, depending on your POV).

Right wing tools wonder what big national programs the federal govt has ever been good at running. It seems the best run federal programs have to do with military/defense and law enforcement. Ironically these also happen to be exactly the big national programs that the left wing tools want to take money away from.

Posted by: p1funk | May 7, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

3. Orakpo is not Lavar. Lavar was a "freak" athlete while Orkapo is a "beast". LaVar was one of the most decorated players coming out of PSU while Orakpo is no slouch, the comparison is weak.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse


Lavar was also a linebacker.

Not a college DE that we are attempting to convert.

Posted by: p1funk | May 7, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

learnedhand

'...you had me until "Bush was elected to replace the sense of 'dishonor''



I was trying to make a seque into a joke and got distracted by MrsMoe.

She's decided that since I've decided to spent endless hours blogging in RI Nation, she should lose weight, fix herself up, and find herself a boyfriend.

She screamed, "What does that blog have that I ain't got?"

I paused and thought hard.

I told her it doesn't bleed and get grouchy once a month.

The blog doesn't cash my check and pay only those bills in its name.

I never have to beg the blog for anything ever.

The blog never calls my kids 'losers' when they screw up, and 'my kids' when the perfect repart card comes home.

When I come home just before breaksfast after a night out, I turn on the blog and there's periculum farting in my general direction.

Finally, I told her as she tossed my clothes out of the window, the Redskins Blog owner keeps the dumb things I post to itself as a way of not taking things seriously.

Something I wish she'd learn to do.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 7, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Lavar was also a linebacker.

Not a college DE that we are attempting to convert.

Posted by: p1funk

Exactly...When I first saw Orakpo @ Texas beat his man w/ speed around the edge, I have been screaming that this dude is a Dwight Freeney clone. Imagine a stronger Freeney with the possibilty of an even better motor.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is working out, and not eating himself out of the league as some people claimed he would. He is getting on with his team-mates and those huge piles of money seem to be motivating him.

It can only mean one thing, a career ending knee injury in the final pre-season game.

Posted by: adsmanager | May 7, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 7, 2009 7:44 PM

Go ahead and take the rest of the night off, you've earned it.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

'...Right wing tools wonder what big national programs the federal govt has ever been good at running...'

Well, there's the effort to put a man on the moon which resulted in tons of basic consumer products--like golf cart and microwave.

The government did research into solving medical issues--like polio, that no longer exist.

Then, the government used taxpayer dollars to defeat the Nazis, desegregate the schools, end the Cold War, slow down HIV, set up the GI Bill.

Then there's social security, student loans that have allowed millions (like me and Pres. Obama) to pay for college when their families couldn't, and the decision to let the private sector make use of a secret military communication system.

Today, we call that private communication system the INTERNET.

Stop blogging if you think things the global telecommunication-- are worthless.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 7, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Pay the man shirley

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

When I come home just before breaksfast after a night out, I turn on the blog and there's periculum farting in my general direction.

Mr. Moe needs to try some "chick crack". Dress up like a "peacock". Where some pink dress shirts some tennies with pink flamingos, wave pendelums, throw some runes ... then you'll have her eating out your hand.

You need to stop farting under the sheets. They usually hate that.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"Lavar was also a linebacker.Not a college DE that we are attempting to convert.Posted by: p1funk"

Good thing, too, because apparently Lavar never did anything anyone told him. His idea of defense was to figure out where the ball was and go get it. Worked great as long as... well, as long as the ball wasn't already in the end zone when he found it.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 7, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Sween - I feel you and I know I don't live in the District anymore. And I know you don't have a senator. But, it really ain't all that it's cracked up to be to tell you the truth, unless you are in the majority, which I am usually not in.

But, I think the voucher program is a good idea. But it's bad if a legislature just plays with it like its a toy, which is what they were doing by giving it to district residents then taking it away. Just another avenue if a student is fortunate enough to get in it. Choices are good.

(LAst post on this, I promise)

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 7, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

the private sector make use of a secret military communication system.

Today, we call that private communication system the INTERNET.

Its actually called "the Memex" as opposed to the "Information Super Highway" when good ol' Al tried to hijack it and claim he invented it. But another Bush, a very insightful, intelligent one invented it. His first name was Vannevar.

You can see how he "predicted" the future (in minute detail) better than any "seer" past or present in the July 1945 issue of the Atlantic magazine.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Then, the government used taxpayer dollars to defeat the Nazis, desegregate the schools, end the Cold War, slow down HIV, set up the GI Bill.

Least we forget that under Republicans (who seem to have made us cowards?) we have learned to take our shoes off at airports. They used that wonderful "secret technology" to spy on us going against laws to protect us from that put in place by democrats. Took away our freedom and rights that protect us from arbitrary search and seizure ... law enforcement need only use the "T" word to gain access. Access to our medical records, our DNA, the HIPPA act completely ignored by Bush. Next I suppose would have been confiscating our weapons ... wait ... isn't that what Democrats are supposed to be guilty of? ~smiles~

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

vannevar......sounds slavic....did he ever play football?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Not a college DE that we are attempting to convert.

DeMarcus Ware. Seems like he rushes the passer an awful lot.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

How is Marcus Mason looking in these OTA's?

Posted by: the_shocker1 | May 7, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Any word on Levi?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

vannevar......sounds slavic....did he ever play football?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009

Too busy elaborating scenarios for technological approaches to realizing ancient archetypes that we have been trying to create for millennia. Such as the "grid" or "the global sub conscience" also known as the Internet, cell phones with cameras, etc, etc. Grand Challenges of Computer Science sorts of things.

However, I suspect he was a Redskins fan.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Actually most right wing tools prefer that most governmental activities/decisions take place on a local level, most left wing tools don't understand that.

The right wing tools just don't think that a handful of appointees in DC really have what it takes to properly address the needs/issues of an incredibly diverse 250mill person population. Left wing tools seem to think that those handful of people can as long as we keep taxing everyone to give that handful of people a big budget to work with (or waste, depending on your POV).

Right wing tools wonder what big national programs the federal govt has ever been good at running. It seems the best run federal programs have to do with military/defense and law enforcement. Ironically these also happen to be exactly the big national programs that the left wing tools want to take money away from.

Posted by: p1funk | May 7, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Instead of posting this clever missive, shouldn't you just apologize for the last eight years and promise to never vote or talk politics again?

Posted by: mack1 | May 7, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Not a college DE that we are attempting to convert.

DeMarcus Ware. Seems like he rushes the passer an awful lot.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 8:05 PM

Merriman and Ware were both college DE's. In the 3-4 they are asked to be rush OLB with no other reponsiblities. In Blatche's 4-3 alignment Orakpo will have coverage reponsiblities. I like most think he will be successful @ OLB and then on 3rd down do what he does best, rush the passer. IMO this is the best plan for him because it allows him to be on the field in his early years. He will eventually become an everydown DE.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Hip Hip Vannevar

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Why all the discussion about politics? I thought this was a football forum. I'm glad to hear Haynesworth is fitting in. Here's hoping that he doesn't rest on his big backside now that he's got a monster contract. This team has the potential to have a very, very good defense, but the players cannot put it all on Haynesworth or rookie Orakpo. Blache needs to keep everyone focused and make them strive to get better. Blache is an old school coach and I don't think he will let anyone rest easy. An interesting thing I've noted is despite the Redskins signing two DE's and despite the carryover from last year's DE's, they still keep bringing more competition in. Does this mean they don't perceive Wynn and Daniels as the answer at end? Wouldn't it be interesting to see one of the junior guys beat them out like Buzzbee or Jackson?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 7, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

How is Marcus Mason looking in these OTA's?

Posted by: the_shocker1 | May 7, 2009 8:06 PM

The dude shines in OTA's. He looks great in pre-season. It's the regular season where we don't have a clear fix on him.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Any word on Levi?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:07 PM

Yes I have one word....NO

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

i gotta agree with the diesel on his point , cuz thost 2 guys are animals and they've made the transition from end to lb. But on the other side, we're not really that deep with quality starting d ends that Orakpo wouldn't have been able to crack the starting lineup at some point this season.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Why all the discussion about politics? I thought this was a football forum.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 7, 2009 8:16 PM

RSH--This is Washington. Everything is politics. If you want a non-political blog, try Arizona or Kansas City.

Redskins Insider: Come for the football, stay for the jibba-jabba.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Terl did a piece on Mason... talked about how he has learned that increasing his verstility is the way to get to stick on the roster and contributing prior to getting game day touches at RB.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

i agree with the levi point too diesel

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Where is your concern for the kids who still have to go to public school. Why let a few kids go to private school on the public dime while the rest founder? More money should be used to fix the public schools so that all children can get a good education.


Posted by: learnedhand1 ****

Posted by: lsskinsfan | May 7, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Instead of posting this clever missive, shouldn't you just apologize for the last eight years and promise to never vote or talk politics again?

Posted by: mack1 | May 7, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse


Ha! I didn't vote for Bush!

Sorry I don't fit into the overly-simplistic political categories that you've been spoon fed by cable news channels.

But I will promise never to talk politics again with you...it would just be over your head.

Posted by: p1funk | May 7, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10

I wasn't trying to go t_e, peri, etc on you. Jones is still suffering from knee and leg problems. He has had a non-descript career since being the 10th pick in the draft in 2002. He doesn't represent an upgrade to 74, 71, or Bridges. If he agrees to come on a min type contract that would be great, I just think that Levi and many other teams will over value him and he will be to expensive for our cap strung team.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

he has learned that increasing his verstility is the way to get to stick on the roster and contributing prior to getting game day touches at RB.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 7, 2009 8:21 PM

It took him this long to learn it? So what's he doing about it -- practicing at long snapper?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Mason's always put on a good show for us during preseason. I think the FO really likes him it just comes down to whether or not the skins wanna carry 4+ runningbacks. I think mason could make Rock expendable so be careful what u ask for. I think we could use an upgrade to rock but he is considered a True Redskin.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

oops,

Where is your concern for the kids who still have to go to public school. Why let a few kids go to private school on the public dime while the rest founder? More money should be used to fix the public schools so that all children can get a good education.


Posted by: learnedhand1 *******

I left NOVA in the late 80's and at that time, DC was famous for spending more per capita than any other locale in the nation. They still had crappy schools. I wonder where they rank today?
Throwing money at the problem doesn't work. You have to have involved parents, or if only one parent, then an involved parent. Too bad for you if you think that's not politically correct. Children can learn in an innner city school, or out in a one room school in BFE. DC is a disgrace of a nations capital IMO. A place that the electorate vote in a crack smoking mayor is beyond morally and ethically corrupt.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | May 7, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

It took him this long to learn it? So what's he doing about it -- practicing at long snapper?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 8:29 PM

He's bringing the coaches water.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

U got it right diesel. i really wanted to know what's the word on him. I know cincy picked him high, but i also know they just dumped him . folks get all geeked up about free agents with very little info, and then get on here and bash the FO. I just wanted a lil info. Thx

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

scamp--LOL

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

This team has the potential to have a very, very good defense, but the players cannot put it all on Haynesworth or rookie Orakpo. Blache needs to keep everyone focused and make them strive to get better. Blache is an old school coach and I don't think he will let anyone rest easy. An interesting thing I've noted is despite the Redskins signing two DE's and despite the carryover from last year's DE's, they still keep bringing more competition in. Does this mean they don't perceive Wynn and Daniels as the answer at end? Wouldn't it be interesting to see one of the junior guys beat them out like Buzzbee or Jackson?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 7, 2009

And they still have Rob Jackson as well. Daniels and Wynn are getting up there and both have 1 year contracts. Snyder has decided to sign only guys under 30 to long term contracts beyond the vet minimum of 1-2 million. And that effects the special teams as well.

Haynesworth will likely be at left end on passing downs in Blache's defense because Carter is at right end. You want Carter to be in on passing downs unless he proves to be ineffective or is injured. Orapko will blitz on the same side as Haynesworth. I suspect you'll see Landry and Carter rushing on the other side. Passing downs will likely see Griffin, Daniels Montgomery, Wynn, Alexander and Golston rotating. All except Griffin and Alexander? are on 1 year tenders.

One has to wonder if even Blache will be here after next year? Maybe they bring in a guy who will do more of a 3-4?

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

quick non football question If my 14 month old weighs 26 lbs and is 22in tall is he on the path to miken williams status?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

scamp?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Mason was well on his way to replacing Rock last year until he fumbled on a KO return. I like rock, I don't love him. He will always get exactly what is available on a KO return, nothing less and definitely nothing more. This year they have banned the wedge on KO returns and slower, less elusive specialists like Rock will be challenged. I'm still hopeful that Tyron will fulfill his promise that he will avg 40+ on KR like he said last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

scamp?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:42 PM

That's me. Can I be of service?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Ha! I didn't vote for Bush!
Sorry I don't fit into the overly-simplistic political categories that you've been spoon fed by cable news channels.

But I will promise never to talk politics again with you...it would just be over your head.

Posted by: p1funk | May 7, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

And I except your apology!
Great news about Big Al, huh?

Posted by: mack1 | May 7, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

i'm just saying, people are talking about replacing and all pro longsnapper for one of these FAs but we hold on to rock year after year and he is completely one dimensional and not even an all pro returner. We know rock can't hit the homerun. Philly jumped on some teams last year with desean jackson on their returns, why not give Devin Thomas a shot back there?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

why not give Devin Thomas a shot back there?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:49 PM

Devin Thomas has been a Redskin for a year now. Do you think that the 'Skins never tried him in returns?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I dunno did u see him returning kicks last year? All he could allegedly do last year was catch a ball and run with it.Why not?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I dunno did u see him returning kicks last year? All he could allegedly do last year was catch a ball and run with it.Why not?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I dunno did u see him returning kicks last year?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 8:58 PM

I think he returned one or two in pre-season. And, I'm betting, that he returned several of them in what they call "practice" and when he wasn't as good at it as ARE, they asked him to do something else.

But, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it never occured to them to ask him to return one.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

we'd both need to see these "practices" to be able to judge whether or not he wasn't as good as Rock i know he could do better than ARE did last year because he didn't return kicks just punts.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I think he returned one or two in pre-season. And, I'm betting, that he returned several of them in what they call "practice" and when he wasn't as good at it as ARE, they asked him to do something else.

But, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it never occured to them to ask him to return one.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 9:03 PM

How could he not be better than ARE? All he has to do is gain 1-2 yards per return and he would do better than ARE.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Scamp!

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I know this is a football blog but is anyone watching the Cavs game? Lebron is just reeediculous.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

"quick non football question If my 14 month old weighs 26 lbs and is 22in tall is he on the path to miken williams status?Posted by: lilhollywood10"

What does that to do with funding for charter schools?

Cheez, some people just can't stay on topic...

Posted by: Samson151 | May 7, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

What does that to do with funding for charter schools?

Cheez, some people just can't stay on topic...

Posted by: Samson151 | May 7, 2009 9:17 PM |

I love charter fishing!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Answer is that Devin Thomas returned seven kickoffs in pre-season last year for an average of 20.7 yards. Rock? In the regular season he returned 51 for an average of 25.6.

On punt returns, last year in the pre-season they tried Maurice Mann and Byron Westbrook. Neither was an upgrade over ARE.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't see Devin Thomas as a better kickoff returner than the Rock but I do see him as a punt returner. I think you have to be much more disciplined to return kickoffs, you know with the lanes and all. Now this is just my opinion but I think that generally running backs do better returning kickoffs and WR's and CB's do better returning punts.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't see Devin Thomas as a better kickoff returner than the Rock but I do see him as a punt returner..

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 9:23 PM

scamp,

I thought that in college Thomas returned KO's and that he didn't return punts.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

It's certainly possiblt TE, it's just my perception.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I checked, he did return kickoffs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

We get very little help from special teams, we almost got burned vs N.O. b/c they have a return man that teams have to fear. i'm not saying that dev is reggie bush with respect to returns but it would be nice to have a guy that you felt had a chance to go all the way. Rock will get caught from behind 10 out of 10 times and ARE can't even get started.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

ARE looks like he's trying to find his contact lens whenever he gets a return. I think he avg. 6 yds per return last year the second lowest avg in his career. it's time to hang it up with the returns ARE. He was averaging 10 per in pitt.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

we'd both need to see these "practices" to be able to judge whether or not he wasn't as good as Rock i know he could do better than ARE did last year because he didn't return kicks just punts.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 9:11 PM

lil,

Maybe you'd need to see the practices, but not me. Even though I am a talent_evaluator, this is an area where I think the coaches are better than I am. As long as they've watched the practices, they can determine who's best qualified on the team to return punts, KOs.

The fact that ARE, Rock are handling these jobs tells me that they're the best qualified. Personally, I think Rock's production has been adequate and that they should look for an upgrade over ARE.

But, with all the problems on the team I'd rank these about 23rd. and 37th.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

"Actually most right wing tools prefer that most governmental activities/decisions take place on a local level, most left wing tools don't understand that."

Posted by: p1funk

Ha, that's nothing more than an idealistic view held to belief by very few, but clinged to by the majority of leftists as an excuse to oppose anything and everything government. As of now, the majority of power and money lies federally, but as soon as that power shifted locally, those same anti-federal advocates would flip the switch right on the local government. You and I both know that. It has nothing to do with WHO has the power. So long as the majority of power isn't in your own personal hands, there will still be complaints from the "small-government" crowd. It's laughable to think that a simple transition of power from federal to local would satisfy the leftist crowd.

Posted by: psps23 | May 7, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

"to oppose anything and everything government"

Hyperbolically speaking, of course.

Posted by: psps23 | May 7, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I doubt you just start suckin at something you were really good at just a couple years earlier. Skins must not punt return block as well as Steelers

Posted by: the_shocker1 | May 7, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Why are people questioning how Blache utilizes Orakpo?Listen,Orakpo with his ability and athleticism should be on the field all the time not just passing downs.Having both Daniels and Orakpo on the field at the same time in rushing situations with all the talent around them is scary.

Posted by: mark65 | May 7, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I can dig your rankings. My only argument,is that neither ARE or Rock get it done on a high enough level for them to be untouchable as they have been for the past coupla seasons. I think their status has more to do with ownership and the FO than actual coaches evaluation. Danny bought ARE to be an exciting return man and a complimentary receiver. His wideout numbers have been average at best and the return numbers have gone down each year.
All that being said, if the team benches him or demotes him it'll be another failed acquisition. There's a vested interest other than w's and l's in leaving ARE out there.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

ARE was 54th in the league last year in average punt returns @ 6.5 yards per return. But the Redskins also had the guy who had the highest average in the league -- Santana Moss with six returns and a 20.7 yard average.

ARE had 39 returns. If you look only at guys who had 30 returns, or more, than only nine guys did better than he did last year, but only one did worse -- Devin Hester.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 7, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I can dig the skins punt return unit not being as good as the steelers ( 2 chips in 5 years), but i don't see an explosive return man when i see randle el. if he was explosive then why don't other teams kick away from him like we shoulda did reggie. i think it's safe to say that ARE doesn't give us what we want from the punt return game. maybe someone else could run better with our crappy punt return blocking. Santana did it pretty well a coupla times last year.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice the weak effort by the Capitals Wed night,I am almost convinced they threw the game in order to extend the series and profits.

Posted by: mark65 | May 7, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

What does that to do with funding for charter schools?
Cheez, some people just can't stay on topic...

Posted by: Samson151 | May 7, 2009 9:17 PM

I love charter fishing!
Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009

Me, I'd rather be on the beach next to a hot babe in a bikini with my hand in her panties. But that's just me.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I can dig the skins punt return unit not being as good as the steelers ( 2 chips in 5 years)
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I meant Pitt has had a lot of areas where they were better than the skins not that punt returns win championships

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I meant Pitt has had a lot of areas where they were better than the skins not that punt returns win championships

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:10 PM

Yes but field position wins games.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

tooshay

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

don't know the accent buttons had to hook it on phonics

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth is working out, and not eating himself out of the league as some people claimed he would. He is getting on with his team-mates and those huge piles of money seem to be motivating him.

It can only mean one thing, a career ending knee injury in the final pre-season game."

Posted by: adsmanager | May 7, 2009 7:50 PM

This is as evil as it gets. Be careful what you wish on others, you or someone close to you may be the beneficiary of your evil intent. Would you wish your scenario on any of your own family? Connotation of a devilish destiny on anyone is simply evil.

Posted by: abxinc | May 7, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

EVILLLLLLLLLLLLL

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

but how evil?

Lord Voldemort evil or Ernest Scared Stupid evil?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Z, it's the off-season.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 7, 2009 5:05 PM

Many people talked to the hand lately? How much has it learned from this?

Posted by: AntonChigurh | May 7, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Me, I'd rather be on the beach next to a hot babe in a bikini with my hand in her panties. But that's just me.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 10:07 PM

Skeeve. They have websites specifically for people to verbalize sexual phantasies they are destined only to have wet dreams about. Do us all a favor and decamp to one of them ASAP.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | May 7, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

buzzkill

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

How many defensive ends do we have on the roster now?

Is there a list somewhere?

~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | May 7, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

thundarr, here are all the dudes whose positions are listed as DE or DT from the redskins.com roster page, as of a few minutes ago:

90 Buzbee, Alex DE 6-3 265 1 Georgetown 11-27-1984
99 Carter, Andre DE 6-4 252 8 California 05-12-1979
93 Daniels, Phillip DE 6-5 276 13 Georgia 03-04-1973
91 Jackson, Rob DE 6-4 259 1 Kansas State 11-03-1985
72 Skolnitsky, J.D. DE 6-5 263 R James Madison 11-06-1986
71 Walker, Derek DE 6-4 270 R Illinois 09-16-1986
95 Wilson, Chris DE 6-4 246 2 Northwood 07-10-1982
97 Wynn, Renaldo DE 6-3 296 13 Notre Dame 09-03-1974
79 Alexander, Lorenzo DT 6-1 286 2 California 05-31-1983
75 Dixon, Antonio DT 6-2 326 R Miami 06-30-1985
64 Golston, Kedric DT 6-4 298 3 Georgia 05-30-1983
96 Griffin, Cornelius DT 6-3 31 9 Alabama 12-03-1976
92 Haynesworth, Albert DT 6-6 320 7 Tennessee 06-17-1981
78 Manupuna, Vaka DT 6-0 300 1 Colorado 06-30-1982
94 Montgomery, Anthony DT 6-6 315 3 Minnesota 03-08-1984

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 8, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

whoops, forgot the key:

jersey number|name|position|ht.|wt.|exp.|collidge|DOB

you probably would have figured it out, but just in case...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 8, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Nate.

Happy Friday!
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | May 8, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Hip hip hooray for Friday, you might say.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 8, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

ARE had a mediocre PR average and also had a costly fumble during a return. Rock was 6th in the league in kickoff return yards and 11th in average, 0.5 yards from 7th place.

Anyway you cut it, Rock is somewhere in the top 1/3 to top 1/4 of the league in KO returns. Rock is also pretty inexpensive and on all (most?) of the special teams, meaning he's on the field about 20 times a game.

I have no problem with keeping Rock and the Skins should, unless the next Darren Sproles is in the house.

ARE is a decent WR, good by #3 standards, so-so for a #2. He doesn't return punts well as other have noted. So have him give up the PR and focus on being a better WR.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 8, 2009 1:42 AM | Report abuse

"ARE had a mediocre PR average and also had a costly fumble during a return. Rock was 6th in the league in kickoff return yards and 11th in average, 0.5 yards from 7th place.
Anyway you cut it, Rock is somewhere in the top 1/3 to top 1/4 of the league in KO returns. Rock is also pretty inexpensive and on all (most?) of the special teams, meaning he's on the field about 20 times a game."

Those are very good points. My guess would be that ARE's time at WR is hurting his PRs (couldn't prove that though). Rock appears very efficient at kickoffs. He's not a home run hitter, but he keeps the offense in decent position and avoids mistakes.

Once again, I'd worry about more pressing problems and leave Rock alone.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:11 AM | Report abuse

On the ARE as a punt returner discussion, I just want to say that I think ARE's problem is he goes down when anyone so much as sneezes on him. For this reason, I think Cartwright might be a better punt returner. Cartwright, though not the shiftiest guy out there, can drive right through the arm tackles. I'm not sure what the two scatback running backs can do on punt returns, but they should be in the mix as well. AND, lest we forget, a fellow on the defensive side of the football whose last name is Hall was a downright spectacular punt returner in college. I wouldn't use him every game, but I think he can be used to generate an occasional spark just like Santana Moss.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 8, 2009 7:11 AM | Report abuse

nate: "jersey umber|name|position|ht.|wt.|exp.|collidge|DOB"

At least they all attended collidge, huh?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

I notice that in the NFC East the #2 option is usually a tight end or a back. Not sure if it's always planned that way (i'm sure it is some of the time), or just a matter of confidence. Nonetheless, teams are relying consistently on somebody other than WRs.

At Philly, since Owens left, it's been Westbrook. Even with DeSean Jackson, you can see them look for Westbrook in key situations. At Dallas it's Witten. That could even increase this year without Owens. Once Burress went out, the Giants relied a lot on Derrick Ward -- not sure what they'll do now he's gone. Go back to the WRs I guess. The Skins have relied successfully on Cooley.

The point is, these are not always checkdowns, the way they once were. Makes it difficult to decide who qualifies as the second or third receiver. Not fair to compare TEs or backs to WRs, of course -- they have very different responsibilities.

So my conclusion is, compare WRs to WRs. That means Steve Smith on the Giants and Jackson on the Iggles get compared to Moss. And Moss comes out pretty well in that comparison.

By the way, I'm wondering if PR duties will interfere some with DeSean's production this season.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

redskin:"I think Cartwright might be a better punt returner. Cartwright, though not the shiftiest guy out there, can drive right through the arm tackles."

I think the problem with Rock as a PR is he takes a few strides to get going -- requiring room you have on a kickoff but not on a punt.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:30 AM | Report abuse

I would be concerned about your latest WR signing: wherever Eloi are found Morlocks can't be far behind.

Although the Morlocks have good size and strength for playing in the secondary, their Eloi-eating tendencies, combined with their total aversion to daylight means that they could only play in evening games. With the lights off.

And anyway, the Eloi are far too passive to lay down a block or contend for the jump ball.

A bad signing all round in my view.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

rock has said he doesn't want to (or can't) return punts. BMitch even offered to coach him one offseason. But maybe the added competition will change his views on that.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 8, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Not much talk about our Special Teams giving the PR any room. That was a big problem the last few years. Neither Rock nor El had much success and that was a major factor.

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 8, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

lmao @ redcoat

dang troglodytes...

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 8, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

The real question is, what was Obama thinking when this scenario occured.

1) Group A mismanages their businesses and those businesses start to go under.

2) President Obama wants to give Group A more money for their businesses so they can stay in business.

3) Group A again mismanages the money and the businesses fail anyway.


uhhh, duh?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 8, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Hi Dik, thanks for acknoweledging my feeble attempt at humo(u)r.

You have to admit though if you could just get over the whole photosensitivity thing, having a Morlock roaming the backfield would be the next best thing to #21.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:11 AM
Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:14 AM
Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:28 AM
Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:30 AM

Blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | May 8, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

So much for Eloi Manning...

hahahahahahahaha

Listening Assignments:

Yesterday - Charles Mingus
Today - Prince Buster

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 8, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

overpaid overrated injury prone reckless driver... I just saw 3 cops patrolling the Dulles area...just a matter of time before Fat Albert gets pulled over again. This time I will be rooting for the cops. I don't want this 100 mph reckless thug running over my neighborhood kids just because he had a BAD day.

Posted by: jercha | May 8, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I don't want this 100 mph reckless thug running over my neighborhood kids just because he had a BAD day.

Posted by: jercha | May 8, 2009 8:35 AM

He wasn't going to run over your kids. He was going to stomp on their faces if their helmets come off. Make sure you double buckle their chin straps.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

DeAngelo Hall is impressed with Haynesworth as a person. "He's the type of guy you want to have as your teammate," Hall said.

By Jason Reid | May 7, 2009; 4:27 PM ET

Am I the only one a bit disturbed by this? Isn't that kind of like Keifer Sutherland vouching for Ron Artest?

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 8, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one a bit disturbed by this? Isn't that kind of like Keifer Sutherland vouching for Ron Artest?

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 8, 2009 8:45 AM

Would you feel better if he said "I don't like Albert. I don't want to be on the same team as him. I'd rather have Ron Artest on my team."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I don't want this 100 mph reckless thug running over my neighborhood kids just because he had a BAD day.

Posted by: jercha | May 8, 2009 8:35 AM

He wasn't going to run over your kids. He was going to stomp on their faces if their helmets come off. Make sure you double buckle their chin straps.

Posted by: talent_evaluator

Some of you must have some really sad lives to be posting BS like this.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | May 8, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Some of you must have some really sad lives to be posting BS like this.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | May 8, 2009 8:50 AM

Thanks for your feedback, JM220. Aren't you the guy who threatens to hit people in the back of their head with a ballpeen hammer?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Today - Prince Buster

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 8, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Al Capone guns don't argue!

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

jm, no kidding huh, I mean, I know we're all perfect on this board, and have NEVER done anything on the wrong side of the law...ufb....some people need to take a walk outside, and get some fresh air...no clouds in the sky, smell some flowers...stop taking this team/blog so seriously....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 8, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Hey t_e, many people think irony is what you do after you finished the laundry-y. It's wasted in written communication.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins never let their young guys develop. We did not need to bring back Wynn and Daniels, I think their time is up. Let the young studs play. (Wilson, Montgomery, Alexandria, and Jackson. We need a new punt and kickoff guys. El is a good receiver and Rock is a good special teams player, but his speed is a question. Let some of these new offensive linemen try out for right guard also. Williams and Hyer on right side. What can Reinhart do? Let them play.

Posted by: gman1030 | May 8, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Hey t_e, many people think irony is what you do after you finished the laundry-y. It's wasted in written communication.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 8:58 AM

Well, I've wasted a lot of it, but JM220 probably objects to "wasting" anything or anyone, including irony. Anyway, what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I think JM just gets frustrated - as do most people at some point - by the incipient undercurrent of negativity that seems to underpin RI.

To me the collective psyche here is always just one split infinitive from turning into Michael Douglas' character in 'Falling Down'. It's like the little bit of angst and/or frustration with life's petty stupidities that everyone brings to every interaction we have take on a life of their own here, making everyone a little less tolerant than we would be in real life. Or at least I hope than we would.

And I include myself in that; my past ad-hominems prove that.

"You mean I'm the bad guy?!?"

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Hey t_e, many people think irony is what you do after you finished the laundry-y. It's wasted in written communication.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 8:58 AM

Well, I've wasted a lot of it, but JM220 probably objects to "wasting" anything or anyone, including irony. Anyway, what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 9:02 AM

Are we talking about the safety tandem of Laundry and Taylor the Redskins envisioned? Receivers then had to worry about clothes lines when they ventured over the middle.

Posted by: skinfanman | May 8, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/may/07/no-interest-in-jones/

Notice how Elfin uses Redskins' sources...

But granted, that redskin source still can be the janitor..

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 8, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for your feedback, JM220. Aren't you the guy who threatens to hit people in the back of their head with a ballpeen hammer?

Posted by: talent_evaluator

If you can't see that there is a difference between smacking an adult and stompping on the head of a child than you are truly a sad person.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | May 8, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat - I never thought of it like that. Thanks for feeding my brain....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 8, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I noticed a hint of negativity from Elfin in that post as well. BURN HIM!

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 8, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

"incipient undercurrent of negativity"? I like that. You drink better coffee than I do. Plus you write gooder, too. Or is it mo(u)re good?

If I could figure out how to do bold face and italics like you, then I could express myself more articulately. Right now, I'm limited to ALL CAPS.

If you can get or give a few good laughs or unexpected twists off the blog, then it's worthwhile and you can overlook the personal attacks, including the unprovoked blind-side personal attacks.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I don't claim a scintilla of originality in my thinking 4th, but I appreciate the compliment.

I guess it's the fact that we are mostly 'disembodied voices' to each other that foments the angst, as I notice that the interaction between the posters who have actually met one another is different; sometimes playful, often argumentative, but different.

JM, I suspect you haven't met t_e, because if you had you couldn't believe that he means a word of that!

Maybe this blog thingy brings out a little of the sociopath buried deep in all of us?

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pull the legs off some (virtual) flies.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

I believe the correct way of saying it, is "more gooderer", as in, "you're a more gooderer writers than I is"....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 8, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

LOL o_e.

Thank you t_e, I'm still saddened that I couldn't make the recent gathering with Nate to catch up with some of you guys again.

That said, I'm actually going back to wage-slavedom starting next Monday; one of my clients thought my work good enough to purchase all of my working hours for the forseeable future. So every day I shall be braving the 5:30am Ashburn to Arlington commute from now on. Aaaargh!!

Does TheCindy ever frequent here any more? SMACK? EaglesFanAdam?

Anyone fancy trying to catch up in Arlington for the Champions League Final?

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

"Blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: AntonChigurh"

You forgot a blah.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

That said, I'm actually going back to wage-slavedom starting next Monday;

Posted by: Redcoat | May 8, 2009 9:29 AM

Wage slavedom: You never really appreciate it until you're an involuntarily free man. And paying Social Security taxes at the self-employed rate really sucks.

And the guy who's buying all your time? Maybe that's what JM220 means about someone who lives a sad life? Or will soon? ;-)

Smack comes around the blog and Cindy was posting up here on Saturday.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

talenteval: "Anyway, what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?"

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"And, it's always a lottery to get in. That's how we got in.Posted by: 4thFloor"

Spoken like a true lottery winner.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 8, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

" didn't blame the elderly or infirmed. I blamed those who made POOR CHOICES to care for themselves by CHOOSING BY THEMSELVES to take actions such as staying in less than optimal structures in the path of an oncoming CAT 5 storm even though they had the information and wherewithal to leave, REFUSING TO LEAVE via provided transport, and AWAITING the opening of the shelter of last resort, the Superdome"

Um, exactly how many folks fit in that category, o skinsfaninkaneohe?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I'm wondering if PR duties will interfere some with DeSean's production this season.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 8, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse


Last season Desean had some huge plays is the receiving game (see dallas) he had overall good season as a deep threat and complimented the offense that westbrook and lj smith gave them. i don't think he has to do that much more than last year's production to be considered effective. If he can replicate the return results it's even better. as a skins fan you definitely have to worry about him making the big play on st or as a wr. He's gonna be good

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 8, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

15 word penalty and a loss of premission to respond to one post....unrepentant pun.

"blaming the elderly, infirmed, and poor is about as lame as it gets.

Posted by: kenboy1 | May 7, 2009 5:25 PM"

SHAME on you...

Posted by: ThinkingMan | May 8, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"but how evil?

Lord Voldemort evil or Ernest Scared Stupid evil?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 7, 2009 10:23 PM "

Voldemort's not evil...he's the best goaltender the Caps have EVER had...lol

Posted by: ThinkingMan | May 8, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

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