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Haynesworth Pleads No Contest

Washington Redskins DT Albert Haynesworth pleaded no contest this morning to reckless driving, a Class B misdemeanor, and was given a three-month suspended sentence, according to Terry Wood, assistant district attorney of the 21st judicial district in Tennessee.

Haynesworth will be under three months' supervised probation, will make a $5,000 donation to a charity and must also complete 25 hours of community service and an eight-hour defensive driving class.

The charges stem from a December accident in which another passenger was seriously injured. The second count, driving with an expired registration, was dropped.

Haynesworth will make a donation to 119 Frontline, a charity that provides counseling for firefighters, police officers and first responders, according to Wood.

By Paul Tenorio  |  July 9, 2009; 11:30 AM ET
 | Tags: 119 Frontline, Albert Haynesworth, Terry Wood, firefighters, first responders, police officers  
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He will definitely pay his victim a hefty sum.

Posted by: moosepod | July 9, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks"

I'm gonna ask you to back that up with some facts....otherwise you're a lying azz dog....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Wow, the worst part of his sentence has to be the 8 hour defensive driving class.....talk about having to sit through torture for 8 hours with a guy like Sgt. Stedenko telling you how to drive.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 9, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I hope we can put this behind us now.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 9, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

That's hilarious - a bigotted statement about a bigotted statement. We have entered the vortex!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 9, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

8 hour nap

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

If this comes off as mean spirited, so be it, just my opinion.
Posted by: 72Redskins | July 9, 2009 11:47 AM

No, no, not mean spirited at all……it was a light hearted and fun read. Thanks for putting a smile on all of our faces. Wow.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 9, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

So Haynesworth gets away with the standard "professional athlete wrist slap". If it were you or I, we would be the cellmate with a 300 pound felon who keeps calling us Gladys. I'm not saying I'm surprised.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 9, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow Five whole grand. Next thing you know he'll ask for a contract extension to cover the bill. But yeah, he should be touched up nicely in civil court


An eight-hour defensive driving course? Seems to me the dude whose life he wrecked needed that, not Albert.

Posted by: TheCork | July 9, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Goodell could suspend him for the first 1-2 games of the season for this.

He isn't going to get an 8 game boot, but by pleading guilty is in line for some type of sanction by the league based on his past reputation from the Gurode incident.

The Redskins may have to open up the season without him.

Posted by: leopard09 | July 9, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

72 & 4th,

They touched a sore spot, eh?

I'm not so sure your premise is correct, though. Most folks I've talked to who appreciate Scorscese also appreciate Singleton, Lee and to a lesser degree Bill Duke. I respect the hell outta the older Van Peebles.

What I'm a little surprised at is how black filmmaking now seems to be stuck in this Direct to DVD level of production quality. I won't argue that there isn't a built in prejudice in Hollywood, but can't the filmmakers who blazed the trail get any headway in bringing out new talent?

I do enjoy Tyler Perry, but it's kinda one-note, y'know?

Who are some other Black filmmakers that you're into? I'd love to watch their work.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 9, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Ah - hughes bros. forgot about hughes bros!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 9, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

72
It does not come off as mean spirited to me. But then I got a film degree so I have had that discussion.

For the record, the only African American film director I actively dislike is Tyler Perry. I cannot help but look at some of his shows and stuff and think that he comes off as raciest, the commercial for "meet the Browns" that they play in the theaters comes off as a minstrel bit.

Granted I am a white guy so maybe its a white guilt thing.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"Some Chinese do all look alike.

Some Puerto Ricans are naturally good with cockroaches.

And the Irish, while a warm and wonderful people, will sell their children for Whiskey."

From a routine by comedian David Steinberg, and one of the funniest and best anti-prejudice hunks of material I've ever heard.
...and I'm irish,

Posted by: TheCork | July 9, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Conn. police say pot dealer used McNugget box

The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:04 PM

LITCHFIELD, Conn. -- Connecticut police have arrested a teen, accusing him of selling marijuana and packing it in a Chicken McNugget box. Police said the teen and three alleged customers were nabbed after a police officer spotted some suspicious activity over the weekend. Police said the teen grew marijuana in his apartment and packaged the dope in McNugget boxes.

The arrests came after one alleged customer was spotted coming out of the teen's apartment building with the McNugget box. An officer said he found marijuana inside the box.

Police said they searched the apartment and found more marijuana, a big bag of stems and drug paraphernalia.

The teen pleaded not guilty to charges on Monday.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Contract extension, yup...right there with the suspension....and unicorns....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks"

I'm gonna ask you to back that up with some facts....otherwise you're a lying azz dog....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 11:57 AM

It's a bit of a generalization, sure, but a lie? Come on Bean. And why do you always insist everyone do your thinking for you?

Posted by: mack1 | July 9, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Dik - Not a sore spot. For the most part, I guess I have yet to learn to understand most of stuff. Like I said, I think it provides insight on how some type of people felt about us at the certain time in history.

I am just surprised how Pesci's character's are able to live so long in those movies....

Re: Tyler Perry - Hate him more than I would ever hate Scorcassee. Talk about setting people back. He is doing a great job of that.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

yeah, my b for asking for him to back that up....sorry..what was I thinking....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Not a fan of T Perry but I believe he is growing into a better filmmaker/producer in terms of content. To explain the success of his films (particularly his Madea franchise) and plays would take a dissertation's worth of text. Suffice it to say black people are starving for entertainment featuring black people even when it feeds into stereotypes.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

It think Tyler Perry saw 'The Nutty Professor' one time too many.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Which Nutty Professor?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | July 9, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Back to the NFC East discussion:

I don't dismiss Portis but he cannot carry the offense. He tried to do that last year and he wore down as the season progressed. I've heard they will toss Betts in the mix a little more this season and I think that is a great idea, but Betts is about 90% of what Portis is and the yards per carry will decline. I would like to say that Devin Thomas is going to deliver this season, but I haven't seen enough proof to believe he will. Right tackle is a question mark. Heyer is not a beast in the running game and Mike Williams was an under-achiever before he sat out of football for two years. Campbell is not extremely accurate on the deep ball. He is not quick at making decisions. His skills don't fit the West Coast offense very well.

As for Philly, it seems like their seasons are always determined by the health of their QB and RB. McNabb throws to his running back a lot and when Westbrook is out, the passing game really suffers. When McNabb is out - well, they don't have a decent backup QB. I think the Eagles have great depth everywhere but at QB and RB. If McNabb and Westbrook stay healthy, they could go all the way, but how likely is it that they stay healthy?

As for the Cowboys, I just don't think Wade Phillips is a good coach. He has ridden on Bill Parcells' coat tails for about as long as he was able. Now the team is his. The locker room distractions were shown the door, but the thing about locker room distractions is it seems like someone else is always there to grab the baton if the attitude is already there. It's the coach that ultimately controls the locker room attitude and Wade Phillips doesn't have the rocks to change the attitude. I think Dallas is the team most destined to underwhelm this season.

As for the Giants, I hate them, but they have a ton of talent. Unlike the Redskins and their issues at right tackle, the Giants acknowledged through the draft their issues at wide receiver and they are a better team because of it. Haakeem Nicks and Ramses Barden are solid picks who will get the chance to play.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Re: Tyler Perry - Hate him more than I would ever hate Scorcassee. Talk about setting people back. He is doing a great job of that.

Posted by: 4thFloor

Hey 4th. I hope all is well with you and the family. I can't say I hate the brother but I do think he needs to step up his game. He has talent and don't need to sell himself short with his sit com and movies.

Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Why not back up what you wrote Bean. If you're not black, become black. Then head on down to Providence RI this weekend. Do some shopping, catch a cab or two, ask out a few girls with gigantic hair. Then report back to us about all the warmth and love you receive.

Posted by: mack1 | July 9, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Bean, are you Italian? If not, have you lived in places with a large insular working class Italian population? I wouldn't go as far as 72Redskin regarding Italians/African Americans but their are some brothas who got caught slippin' in Brooklyn (Bensonhurst, Gravesend) and Howard Beach, Queens, and who might agree with him.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Campbell is not extremely accurate on the deep ball. He is not quick at making decisions. His skills don't fit the West Coast offense very well

I don't know about that, I still think it's too soon to tell on this. We'll know more about it after a few real games. I seem to recall a post up here about how much faster his release seemed in this year's OTAs, so here's hopin. I also recall the deep out as a pass he has always thrown well (over 25 yards...

Posted by: RomoShortball | July 9, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey JM220. Doing well. HAte is such a hard word so I take that back. I strongly dislike the dudes work, wheater it be TV or Movies. The one about the 3 girls and a dad was maybe his only work I could sit through the whole way, (if that was even his work, I forget).

John Singleton has so far been the best. Wheather Boyz N Da Hood, Menance II Society, or even Baby Boy....

I think Tyler got exposed at the BET awards when Martin and Jamie made the faux movie premiere featuring Sha Na NA and Wanda! He is ripping thier skills.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

And WWDHS? (what would dennis hopper say)

Posted by: RomoShortball | July 9, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Taxi driver didn't really feed into any stereotypes. Travis Bickle's heritage is not really the issue in the movie. He just happened to be played by an Italian actor.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

am Italian as a matter of fact...

mack, really really intelligent post...shows your true colors....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Rule No. 1: Don't leave phone messages or talk on recorded calls.
Transcript of calls by Mayor for Life to his GF. Check out clip 10. Barry is literally and figuratively brainless.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"I'm trying to pay for this newspaper!"

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 9, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Notes From An Uncle Tom

Mr 72redksin,

You are aware you're complaining about racial stereotyping using a racial epipthet "redksin" as a part of your nickname.

I'm a "Tom," you're a hypocrite.

We Toms are able to enjoy things that aren't so serious and black all the time: BFD.

You should hope to be so comfortable in your skin.

I take the time to watch Scorsese after reading Toni Morrison's "Sula" all evening, and I'm a Tom--please.

I'm quite sure Malcolm X took a day off, I suggest that you and your, "I'm blacker than you," crowd do the same.

There's nothing worst than folks who want to demand that all people who look the same have the same entertainments or else.

I have no respect for people like that, and if that's your tribe, Mr. Redskin, you'll be a lonely self-righteous black nationlist fighing the race wars of the '60s in 2009 America.

Those wars are over, pal, they were won by Barack Hussien Obama.

And while you find my taste in movies centered around cinema those films which hold black folk in a negative light, I hope you're not the type who sits through Tyler Perry's hokey Mammy-movies and feels proud about how the African American community is presented.

So tonight, to celebrate the 20th anniversey of "Do The Right Thing," I'll kick back, chill, and think of fighting a power greater than your ignorance: self-hate.

Sorry for the bombast, btw.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 9, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I never asked if you were Italian Bean.

Posted by: mack1 | July 9, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

golf-clap!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 9, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

didn't say you did, but LH did, so I answere him.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I am not at all prejudiced.

I hate everyone equally!

Posted by: CheyenneWY | July 9, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Best comment ever recorded on a surveillance tape...

Marion Barry

"that b*tch set me up"

I was only a kid when that went down, but even I knew that if you go to a motel with a chick to do drugs and have sex, but then the woman refuses both the drugs and the sex; maybe something is wrong.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | July 9, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

RomoShortball,
That's an odd name for a Redskins post, but, aside from that, I think Campbell was good at throwing a deep pass when his guy was wide open like when Roy Williams (the safety) bit on play action and Santana Moss was so open he could have stopped and signed a few autographs while he was waiting for the ball. In those situations Campbell doesn't exactly have to thread the needle. Last year he missed deep a lot. Usually they were sideline passes, but I think I can support my statement regarding his accuracy. Don't get me wrong. I'm a Campbell fan. He is in the wrong system, though. Gibbs drafted him to be a play action quarterback, and not a QB in a West Coast offense.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 9, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

3 Weeks til training camp!
5 Weeks til 1st pre-season game!
9.5 Weeks til Redskins/Giants!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 9, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow that was really light.

Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks"

..Even though they all got a shot of black from Hannibal's elephant safari back in the day.."Just let me know if you want some Moor!!", heh..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

B we all know that unfortunately we live in a world that people are still judge by the color of their skin. You are smart person so you know this to be true

Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

jm, no doubt thats true, but all I asked was for this statement, "A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks"

re-read what mack wrote, sounds to me like some girls spurned his advances while he was in Providence, and he's bitter about it, so he thinks nothing of painting with very broad strokes....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

What the dud does when he ain't watching illegal tapings of his opponents pre-game walk-throughs! Heh, heh.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Sharon Shenocca, the former Giants receptionist whose alleged romantic relationship with Bill Belichick has complicated her divorce proceedings and made her tabloid fodder, may not move her two kids into the $2.2 million townhouse the Patriots' coach bought for her."

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Rumors have started to swirl that Belichick and Linda Holliday are engaged. Holliday is in the process of divorcing Eugene Holliday, a 53-year-old Arkansas businessman who is her third hubby. At a recent Boston area charity poker tournament, Linda was spotted with an enormous diamond on her ring finger."

Posted by: LibertyValence | July 8, 2009 8:53 PM |

Who would have thunk it. The sourpuss scowling from the sideline turns out to be a muff diver, big time.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 9, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I heard thae convo this morning on Ch. 8 News LH. Wow..... is all I have to say.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Bigotry and racism is absolutely no good, but I doubt we'll ever see "Just Say No To Racism" banners around the field of a Redskins game, like they do in Europe and the rest of the world..Israeli F-16s are more likely..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Another quick point about Scorscese's work. Rarely do you ever see negative stereotypes or any kind of racism from "law abiding good people" usually it only comes from the criminals and mobster types that are the focus of his movies.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks"

..Even though they all got a shot of black from Hannibal's elephant safari back in the day.."Just let me know if you want some Moor!!", heh..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 1:33 PM |

It is very unfortunate. Witness the incident on LI where some Italian teenagers were harrassing a black teenager and the kid's father overreacted and shot one of them dead.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 9, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Yep, it needs to end, but ending exploiting racial differences in comedy would put over half the standup comics out of work, all races..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't go so far as to put it the way mack did, but as someone who went to school in Providence, I definitely got that distinct impression. I'm not black but did have 2 black roommates, and they were subject to some pretty ridiculous stuff (including one time getting jumped, on-campus, by 4 Providence Cops because somebody called in that there was a "suspicious" black person attempting to get into dorms. Apparently being black and intoxicated at 1am qualifies you to be able to be Landry-style tackled at the mention of a phone tip. There ended up being a school-wide protest, but no actual follow-up action by the PD.).

That said, clearly not all, or even close to most Italians would fit that description. But if someone were to say Italians have a higher rate than other sects or ethnicities? I don't think I'd argue (at least in the northeast).

Posted by: psps23 | July 9, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Bean, where did you grow up? Did you grow up in an Italian-American enclave like Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, in a racially or ethnically diverse community, or a WASPish suburb. He didn't say "all" Italians. He said a lot. If Redskin72 grew up near an Italian-American enclave that would color his view just as where you grew up no doubt colors your view. It's not painting with broad strokes when blacks have on more than one occassion been the victims of mob (no pun intended) violence in Italian-American neighborhoods.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Yep, it needs to end, but ending exploiting racial differences in comedy would put over half the standup comics out of work, all races..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 1:58 PM |

That might be a good idea. Most of them aren't funny anyhow, at least when you are sober.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 9, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

lh, making the statement ""A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks" is EXACTLY painting with broad strokes, unless you have something to back it up with.....I asked him to BACK UP what he said, thus far he hasn't, and nor will he I suspect.

How many Italian-Americans did he talk to to come to this conclusion, 100, 1000, 10,000?? Where did he conduct this poll, Northeast, South, West, Midwest??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

"A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks"

It is also well known that the Italians do not hold high opinions of Irish. So what is your point.

I also heard some Nazis dont like the Jews and Some cat named Tom hates a mouse named Jerry.

Have you heard about the beef between the Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

don't forget that some Democrats and Republicans can't get along.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

don't forget that some Democrats and Republicans can't get along.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Word to that.

I am marrying into an Italian family next Saturday, and when they found out I was Irish, there were some interesting comments. I mean it is a sin in their family to eat Ragu. "No jarred Sh*t in my HOUSE!!!!!"

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Have you heard about the beef between the Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000

Come on Gator. How could you like the Road Runner? Coyote came up with some great stuff only for it to fail. I wanted to put my foot in the Road Runner a** when I was little. (yeah I still have a little anger issue with the Road Runner lol)

Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Someone who calls names when people don't agree with him = drama queen

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 9, 2009 11:06 AM |

I think you're living in the proverbial "glass house", dude. I remember seeing a response of yours to a commenter who had touched you up pretty good and the best you could do was call him a "d0uche bag".

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 9, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

All of this because of Scorcese.

He hasnt been this popular since Goodfellas.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | July 9, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Come on Gator. How could you like the Road Runner? Coyote came up with some great stuff only for it to fail. I wanted to put my foot in the Road Runner a** when I was little. (yeah I still have a little anger issue with the Road Runner lol)

Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 2:22 PM

My favorite one was when the road runner was sick and Bugs filled in for him....good stuff!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 9, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I prefer the slightly cooler and exponentially more offensive Speedy Gonzalez?

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

don't know why I phrased that as a question. Mistook RI for Jeopardy! I guess.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Come on Gator. How could you like the Road Runner? Coyote came up with some great stuff only for it to fail. I wanted to put my foot in the Road Runner a** when I was little. (yeah I still have a little anger issue with the Road Runner lol)

Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I never said I liked the Road Runner, I always rooted for the Coyote. I was certain as a little kid, he would catch him in one of the episodes. I was really pissed at the ACME company though.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I also think that the Road Runner had stock in Acme. That's the only explanation.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Coyote came up with some great stuff only for it to fail.
Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

For a second I thought we were talking about Al Saunders Playbook.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 9, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Doesen't Daniel Snyder own the Acme Company now?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | July 9, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

For a second I thought we were talking about Al Saunders Playbook.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 |

LMAO! Good point

Posted by: jm220 | July 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

This is why we need Football to come back. We ran out of subjects and now are endeavering into unchartered territories we should never encounter - Stereotyping and such as........

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Acme = General Motors

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Most coyotes don't have high opinions of road runners.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I prefer the slightly cooler and exponentially more offensive Speedy Gonzalez?

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

You know his song had somthing to do with pot?

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

You know his song had somthing to do with pot?

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Now I like him even more. Never thought of him as a stoner, though. Slowpoke Rodriguez on the other hand...

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Which was worst Speedy Gonzales or the Frito Bandito?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Those wars are over, pal, they were won by Barack Hussien Obama.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 9, 2009 1:01 PM |

As long as it has to be jibba-jabba at least spell it corectly. It is "Barack Hussein Obama". Sheesh.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

This is why we need Football to come back. We ran out of subjects and now are endeavoring into uncharted territories we should never encounter - Stereotyping and such as........

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry, not all Road Runners are fast, and most Coyotes are actually very intelligent creatures.

And Al Saunders is an Offensive Mastermind

Just trying to lighten it up, it was starting to get way too serious in here.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Bigotry and racism is absolutely no good, but I doubt we'll ever see "Just Say No To Racism" banners around the field of a Redskins game, like they do in Europe and the rest of the world..Israeli F-16s are more likely..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse
_____________________________________

Oh & the Europeans aren't racist...? wtSJK

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/07/08/ecclestone.hitler.apology/


I may come off a little anti here, but prejudice is how the human mind is currently programmed. We experience, or we're taught, and we form an opinion or understanding and react. Separating the ego from your personality is mostly impossible.

I think (as this blog WONDERFULLY EXEMPLIFIES) that were at a point now where we're learning more about the differences, and more importantly, the similarities to where we can be more accepting and understanding of each other.

I'm sorry - I find a white guy in lederhosen as funny as the next racial stereotype.

Again, in my world travels I haven't found a place yet that is as open about it's race problems as the US. You would not believe the hate ridden spew I've heard in supposedly liberal surroundings like the independent music scene.

You don't have Young Nazi groups openly electing members to local government here.

Give us another 50 years and I think it'll be more equal, safer and just all around BETTER!

That is if it doesn't all go to pot in the next ten. I need a howitzer and 20 school buses filled with concrete. Who's comin' to the farm when with me when bread costs $10,000?

Hail the blog
Hail 'Skins
Hail freedom & democracy


Posted by: DikShuttle | July 9, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Speedy Gonzáles (or González) , "The Fastest Mouse in all Mexico", is an animated cartoon mouse from the Warner Brothers Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies series of cartoons. Speedy's major traits are his ability to run extremely fast and his comedic Mexican accent. He usually wears an oversized yellow sombrero, a white shirt and trousers, and a red kerchief.

Speedy's cartoons have come under fire in recent years for their alleged stereotypical depictions of Mexicans and Mexican life.[2] Mice in the shorts are usually shown as lazy, womanizing and hard-drinking, with Speedy the only exception -

Apparently, it's the other mice that you have to keep an eye on.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | July 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Cartoon Stereotyping I wasn't talking about gator. Prior to that....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Wiley E. Coyote, Super Genio[toooooot]

hmmm... I like the sound of that:

WILEY E. COYOTE, SUUUPER GEENIOU[TOOOOOOOT]

??

WILEY E. COYO[KABAAAAAM]

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAH

I like Wiley 'cause he blowed up real goood!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Dik,
On that story all I can say is Wow.

At first I thought he was gonna just be talking about Hitlers Race Track, (which most f1 fans tell me is a great race course). But wow.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Which was worst Speedy Gonzales or the Frito Bandito?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

How about Pedro from those South of the Border billboards every 300ft in North and South Carolina? Apparently they aren't aware that it's 2009 and that's not cool anymore.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 9, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Micheal Lee, who wears the crown for Wizards Insider, just put everyone on notice.

It isn't basketball related, and that's the beauty of it. Enjoy.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 9, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Cartoon Stereotyping I wasn't talking about gator. Prior to that....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I know. I have come to the conclusion that there will always be ignorant people that you cant change no matter what. Whether it was bred into them from their family, or learned from their friends, somethings are hard to erase.

And Speedy did rock:

Mouse: My seester knows Speedy Gonzales...

Slow Poke: Everybody's seester knows Speedy Gonzales!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 9, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

oh god - Pedro is still around, hawking that South of the Border thing? "Pedro sez"

Boy

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | July 9, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Catch up with you fellas tomorrow.

"¡Andale! ¡Andale! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba! ¡Yii-hah!"

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 9, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Red,
What the hell was going over at Wizsider?

Posted by: alex35332 | July 9, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Talking about getting off with a light sentence.....................

Bruce Smith convicted of DUI
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 9, 2009 1:03 PM
Roughly one month before a day that Bruce Smith will remember forever, he had one he'd like to forget.

The all time NFL sacks leader was convicted of DUI Thursday in a Virginia court.

Smith has been arrested three times for driving while intoxicated, but this is the first time he's been convicted of the charge.

The former Buffalo Bills stalwart received a 90-day suspended jail term, and the court fined him $350.

Smith says he'll appeal the verdict.

His lawyer argued previously that Smith struggled with the heel-to-toe walk of the field sobriety test because of all his previous surgeries.

Smith will be enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday, August 8

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Best comment ever recorded on a surveillance tape...

Marion Barry

"that b*tch set me up"

Posted by: CheyenneWY

My fav was two Mafia morons "code-talking" about an upcoming hit, recorded by a an FBI bug. Their favorite all purpose word: "thing" pronounced "t'ing"

MORON #1 "So you gonna to the t'ing?

MORON#2 "Yeah.

M-1 "You get the t'ing to do duh t'ing?"

M-2 I got the t'ing to do the t'ing"

M-1. Good. You get the bullets for the t'ing?

Posted by: TheCork | July 9, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully he won't be asked to heel-to-toe it up to the stage.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Best comment ever recorded on a surveillance tape...

Marion Barry

"that b*tch set me up"

Posted by: CheyenneWY

My fav was two Mafia morons "code-talking" about an upcoming hit, recorded by a an FBI bug. Their favorite all purpose word: "thing" pronounced "t'ing"

MORON #1 "So you gonna to the t'ing?

MORON#2 "Yeah.

M-1 "You get the t'ing to do duh t'ing?"

M-2 I got the t'ing to do the t'ing"

M-1. Good. You get the bullets for the t'ing?

Posted by: TheCork | July 9, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

lmao Cork!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 9, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

If you want to see full blown stereotypes in their purest form, simply watch old three stooges episodes. Still hilarious to this day ( only to guys though for some reason) but extremely racist in some ways.I watched one for the first time in years the other day and I was shocked.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 9, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

you guys talking about taxi drivers and my favorite public personality (mayor marion barry) and you don't call me?

i love the (real) mayor. but the mayor needs a pension and a "home" not a job. people of dc, brother, sisters, please please relieve him of his duties.

another opinion: what mcnair did was inexcusable. the dumbest act i've ever seen commited by an athlete. red flags all over the place and you do it for 7 months...not just morally stupid but also illegal acts...

Posted by: dealer1 | July 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

deal, you'd have a different opinoin if he were a former Lions qb, and you know it.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Best all time headline for a WaPo article

"For alzheimers patients, a Christmas to remember"

No joke. Even had a picture of an old lady with a confused look on her face trying to put an ornament on a christmas tree.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | July 9, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Fealer - Glad you can poke your head in...

But wrong on both accounts. Barry doesn't need to Step down, and we (the public) don't know what's what with McNair's marriage....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Dealer - Glad you can poke your head in...

But wrong on both accounts. Barry doesn't need to Step down, and we (the public) don't know what's what with McNair's marriage....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Alex,

a lot of racist and just plain unnecessary junk going on over there. Cracks against Jewish people and what not...

Oh and yeah, while they may some Italians that don't like blacks, they're plenty that do - I know a few, and they're cooler than some "brothers" than I know.

Also I think its funny when blacks scream that this group of people doesn't get along with blacks, um, hello, NEWSFLASH: WE DON'T GET A LONG WITH OUR DAMN SELVES!!! Take a trip to "Anyhood USA" and you'll see exactly what I'm talkin', if you don't know.

One More thing: All of this because of Scorcese.

He hasnt been this popular since Goodfellas.

Posted by: CheyenneWY

Um, dude:

Casino (On HBOOD right now)
Cape Fear (DeNiro - that is all)
Gangs of New York (Dead Rabbits? The Butcher?)
The Departed (Say what you will, but it won him the freakin' AA for best director and an AA for the best film)

Posted by: RedDMV | July 9, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

LOL>>>Slowpoke Rodriguez smack

He's pretty fast in the capesa~

Culturally inappropriate cartoons are hilariously wrong.

Posted by: McMetal | July 9, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

who does the heel toe anymore?

AYE! A TWO-STEP, TWO-STEP... I got my drink and my two-step, my drink and my...

two-steppin is what it is right now, bruh.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 9, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

We may need to do a roll call up in here.....

Fugitive Sweep Nabs Suspect in Pr. William Shootings
Officials Catch 639 in D.C., Maryland, Northern Virginia and Delaware

The Associated Press
Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:33 PM

U.S. Marshals and police in the Mid-Atlantic region have arrested more than 600 fugitives wanted in slayings, shootings, armed carjackings and assaults.

Law enforcement agents from several local jurisdictions in Delaware, northern Virginia, D.C. and Maryland joined Marshals in pursuing 639 wanted individuals in June during Operation FALCON.

In D.C. and Maryland, 446 felony fugitives were arrested, including Chris Ray on attempted murder charges for shooting at a security guard and others at a nightclub in Prince George's County.

Another 155 fugitives were caught in northern Virginia, including Glenn Wade, charged with shooting two people to death at a Prince William County bus station.

In Delaware, 38 were arrested including Drakkar Briscoe on murder charges.

© 2009 The Associated Press

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Mr.Moe,
I love myself, love being Black, and I'm Black and I'm proud.(RIP James Brown)
I don't HATE anyone, least of all myself. I may not LIKE someone or something, but HATE is too strong.

As far as "Redskin", I didn't name the team, I just use that handle because I love the Redskins and became a fan in 1972. Personally I'm not a big fan of the name Redskin because I do feel it is somewhat degrading, but that's my team's name, and it is what it is. Don't see how that labels me a hypocrite. But I'll take being a hypocrite over being a "good boy, Black Republican, and I'll say it again an Uncle Tom.

As far as Tyler Perry movies I'm not a big fan of those, the first one was alright, but I lean toward more serious, dramatic, aristic Black cinema than the urban comedy/Bet B movie genres.

You are naive to think just because Obama is in the White House racial wars in this country are over. Blacks are still being discriminated against in every segment of society, still being wrongly jailed and prosecuted, racial profiled and judged more harshly. 2 weeks ago as my wife and I shopped in downtown DC we were continually followd around the store by one associate, doubt if that would have happened if we were blue eyed and blond. As unemployment reaches 10%, I daresay in the Black community it is way much higher. The war is not as intense as it was in years and decades past but it is far from over, just because there's a half-Black guy as President.

I'm happy as anyone that Obama is in the Whitehouse but so far he is too "generic" for me, he seems to go out of his way to avoid addressing causes and issues that are specific to the Black community.Not once since he's been in office have I heard him say anything about the epidemic of Black youths killing each other and gangs that permeate from coast to coast.So be it, I still wish the brother well.

And as for fighting the fight in 2009, I join Dick Gregory, Tavis Smiley, Rev.Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and all the others, Marion Barry too, who fight for the disenfranchised, disabled, downtrodden, and forgotten who in a lot of cases look just like you BRO, and me. I don't like you bro, but I don't hate you or wish you any type of harm. Just wouldn't hang out and have a beer with you.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 9, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I like the people in the hood. The hood has much better cigarette prices, and I can't get Church's chicken in the burbs.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 9, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Rule No. 2: Never show up to collect sporting event tickets when you never entered a contest.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 9, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV - Were you nabbed earlier today, and that's why you didn't post until this afternoon cuz you just bailed out???

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if Trent Shelton is actually expected to make the team & see any playing time?

Posted by: will_ga | July 9, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Woman allegedly pranks her grandma 45 times in day

The Associated Press
Monday, July 6, 2009 9:00 PM

CAMBRIDGE, Minn. -- A 21-year-old woman faces felony charges after allegedly prank-calling her 69-year-old grandmother 45 times in one day, threatening to kill her. The woman faces five felony counts including harassment. A criminal complaint said she told police she was "bored" and "wanted to have some fun."

The woman and a 20-year-old friend, also facing charges, allegedly called the older woman on Feb. 5 and said "I'm gonna kill you," "You're going to die" and "I'm watching you."

Police officers answered some calls for the grandmother and heard a female caller make threats.

The criminal complaint said the suspect told investigators she wanted to scare her grandmother but didn't want her dead. She said she knew it was wrong but not illegal.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

i didn't say barry needs to step down. i was pleading to the people of the district to not elect him. to let him go...not fire him or anything but just "let" him rest. like any good workhorse he's never going to ask to be pulled out of the game...we as his overseers need to take the ball and pat his butt and tell him thank you and have a seat...c'mon now...we friggin elected a black man to the white house...it's time to move on...

greg, i don't care if he was doug williams...what mcnair did was unforiveable...because it was not a single act it was 7 months of acts.

4th, i don't care about mcnair's marriage. i wouldn't care if he was sleeping around with 100 women. the dude, 37 years old was f'in literally and figuretively with a 19 year old GIRL...that's what's wrong with this picture. for 7 months!!! you know me(lol) i got no problems with goomars...we all need one or two...lol...

Posted by: dealer1 | July 9, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

i liked the departed. ugh...i wanted to slap cindy's boy in that picture. never seen that gooda acting by so many folks in a man movie in a long time. (god father had shaky acting by some (al pacino))

Posted by: dealer1 | July 9, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

As far as McNair, sometimes when you play with fire you get burned. My condolences to his family. My opinion is it's never a good thing to cheat on your wife. If one woman isn't enough for you, you should stay single. Cheating just causes guilt, grief, broken families, scarred children, lighter pockets, and in this sad and unfortunate incident two young lives.Sad, sad, sad.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 9, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm with 72...

Its not like the guy who is at an ATM and gets hit by a drunk driver. This guy put himself into a situation where bad things can happen.

Bad things can happen at any time, but by cheating on your wife with an emotional 20-something female...your percentage goes way up.

Fell terrible for the wife and kids, but its hard to label it a tragedy in the same way that #21 was. He was at home and trying to protect his family.

That said, still a terrible loss...senseless

Posted by: CheyenneWY | July 9, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow, scary what the RI can turn into in the absence of substantive football news! Btw, T. Perry, imho, sux donkey d*cks, not because of the horrible dribble he spews (that describes 90% of the garbage eminating from writers/directors of all races these days), and certainly not because of his race, but because of his self-aggrandizing habit of injecting his name into everything he puts out. I'm old enough to remember a time when ppl would've been ashamed by that naked self-promotion, but alas, those days are long gone.

"There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on n*ggers, k*kes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless!" - the late Gunnery Sgt. Hartman, Full Metal Jacket

Posted by: hogmeister | July 9, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

(deleted my comment)

I don't think all the facts are known in the marriage......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

say it again 4th. unless any of us have intimate knowledge into the relationship Air McNair had with his wife or the bopper, we need to reserve judgement. Mac coulda been caught up in a divorce that was dragging on, they mighta been separated. even if he was a scoundrel and a cheat, did he deserve to die, did he put himself in THAT situation?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 9, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

he was 37 she was 19. so what, they were both consenting adult human beings right? men like women, women like men. if u wanna keep 19 year old girls away from 37 year old millionaires the work must be done on the side of the 19 yr old's family.

guys on the blog 30 and over, how many of yall would bang megan fox for 7 mos. trust me guys Mcnair ain't the only one of us that likes some young (but completely legal)azz

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 9, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Smith has been arrested three times for driving while intoxicated, but this is the first time he's been convicted of the charge.

The former Buffalo Bills stalwart received a 90-day suspended jail term, and the court fined him $350.

Smith says he'll appeal the verdict.

His lawyer argued previously that Smith struggled with the heel-to-toe walk of the field sobriety test because of all his previous surgeries.

Smith will be enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday, August 8

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 3:01 PM |

This is the perfect case for Goodell, after he comes down from his Cascade Mountain High, to start cracking down of HOFer behavior just like he has on player behavior. Indefinitely suspend him so his entry into the HOF becomes a TBD deal.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 9, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

My List of Best "Mob" Movies

Godfather
Godfather II
Goodfellas
Casino
Donnie Brasco
The Untouchables
Scarface
Carlito's Way
The Departed
Miller's Crossing
Road to Perdition
A Bronx Tale
Once Upon a Time in America

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 9, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and apologies for unfairly implicating writers & directors for the dribble that comes out of hollywood. I believe most of those cats can and want to produce thoughtful, interesting, creative stuff. It's the balless studio execs that will only greenlight stuff with the lowest risk potential, ergo the derivative garbage that gets wide release.

Oh, and sorry to go off-topic, but btw, is P. Kendell still unsigned, and am I wrong in believing we've significantly upgraded our kicking & punting games, and that that's flying under the radar?

Posted by: hogmeister | July 9, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Amazing how many of the movies I listed have either Al or Bobby in them

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 9, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedCherokee | July 9, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"As for the Giants, I hate them, but they have a ton of talent. Unlike the Redskins and their issues at right tackle, the Giants acknowledged through the draft their issues at wide receiver and they are a better team because of it. Haakeem Nicks and Ramses Barden are solid picks who will get the chance to play. Posted by: RedSkinHead"

Don't you think that the Jints to some extent created their own problems in the passing game? And if you look at how much they lost, it's hard to see Nicks making up for it.

But we'll see.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 9, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

"He is in the wrong system, though. Gibbs drafted him to be a play action quarterback, and not a QB in a West Coast offense. Posted by: RedSkinHead"

Not to be disputatious, but Campbell is actually quite a good fit for the West Coast offense. He was in a variation of it when he won the national title at Auburn. He's an accurate deep thrower, but not a natural one -- his passes flatten out and that makes it easier for the DB to bat them down. This was the problem Troy Aikman had a first, and the Cowboys licked it by having Michael Irvin reach up and grab the ball over smaller DBs like Darrell Green.

IMO we haven't seen much of the West Coast offense yet because last year our personnel simply couldn't execute it. Hopefully this year will be different.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 9, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I think you're living in the proverbial "glass house", dude. I remember seeing a response of yours to a commenter who had touched you up pretty good and the best you could do was call him a "d0uche bag".

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 9, 2009 2:23 PM

You'll only see me call someone out of their name when they make things personal. We're all here for spirited debate and jibba jabba and disagreeing on a topic isn't reason to make it personal. T_E and a couple others routinely turn to name calling if someone disagrees with their views one time too many, and I give it right back to them if I'm the intended target. I don't really see how that's "glass house" material if I'm not the one instigating it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 9, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

guys on the blog 30 and over, how many of yall would bang megan fox for 7 mos. trust me guys Mcnair ain't the only one of us that likes some young (but completely legal)azz

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 9, 2009 5:35 PM

Dude, have you seen the pic of this Kazemi chick? She's an 8 at best, more like a 7. Comparing her to Megan Fox is like comparing Donna Brazile to Halle Berry. Just not fair.

My sister is 6 years younger than me and when I was single, anyone younger than my sister was off limits. You'd have to be ridiculously fine to break me from that. Those young chicks don't know anything about life or how to properly treat a dick. I was all about the 30-something cougars...all the experience, none of the commitment. Giggety.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 9, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Never had the DUI bug like Haynesworth, though I've been drinking beer medicinally since birth, and know that it is a powerful antibiotic and effectively expels radioactive waste (hence my boyish good looks)..I do remember driving home on 95 from a 9:30 concert once in winter where I had the music blaring and the windows down in sub-freezing temperatures in order to stay awake..I became the radioactive scientist from Repo Man, and flew my fluorescent Pinto to a safe landing in Hampden (home of John Waters, the late Divine, and her poodle..)

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Again, in my world travels I haven't found a place yet that is as open about it's race problems as the US.
Give us another 50 years and I think it'll be more equal, safer and just all around BETTER


Posted by: DikShuttle |

Have you traveled to Canada? With a population arround 40Million and blacks less less than 3Million, Canada is more progressive than our beloved US. Canada has more bi-racial children at 40 Million population than USA at almost 300Million population. Where the US wants to be 50 years from now, Canada is there now and improving. I love my country but when it comes to race relation, Canada is far ahead.
Before we elect Barack Obama, Canada have a black woman as the commander in chief of Canadian royal forces.

Posted by: abxinc | July 9, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

re-read what mack wrote, sounds to me like some girls spurned his advances while he was in Providence, and he's bitter about it, so he thinks nothing of painting with very broad strokes....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 9, 2009 1:42 PM |

No Bean I married her. So I go to Providence a lot to visit. And I'm not saying every Italian is racist. (You apparently are not.) I'm also not disputing that many are. Who knows, maybe it's just her stepbrothers. And cousins. And all their friends and family. Maybe the rest of the town is completely different.

When does the preseason start?

Posted by: mack1 | July 9, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Not to be disputatious, but Campbell is actually quite a good fit for the West Coast offense. He was in a variation of it when he won the national title at Auburn. He's an accurate deep thrower ...

Posted by: Samson151 | July 9, 2009 6:27 PM |

I don't see where you are coming from with your remarks on Campbell.

1. He was second or third fiddle. The main offensive weapons were Cadillac and Ronnie Brown. Whatever his involvement with the offense, it was nothing like NFL WCO. BTW, Auburn was undefeated but they didn't win no national title.
2. Despite a lot of coaching input from Zorny and a lot of simplification of O schemes, he struggles with the WCO. He is very tall, which makes it hard for him to uncoil himself quickly from being under center on play-action plays. There is also room for improvement on the accuracy of his short passes, an essential component of WCO schemes.

Posted by: MrRed | July 9, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Never had the DUI bug like Haynesworth ...

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 7:21 PM |

Don't think he had a DUI bug. It was more like a wreckless driving bug. He would get on the interstate with his Ferrari and think he was on a F1 circuit.

Posted by: MrRed | July 9, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Wreckless? I thought the wrecking was the problem.

Posted by: mack1 | July 9, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Samson151,
I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of Campbell. I never watched him play at Auburn but since he has been with the Redskins I haven't seen the skills needed for a West Coast Offense. Again, I don't think he is accurate on the deep ball, but in addition to that, he doesn't take a shot until his guy is way in the open. It's good for his interception percentage, but it is not good for a West Coast offense where you have to fire quickly on those slants to receivers that are crossing zone coverage. What I saw of Campbell before his injury in Gibbs last season, was a guy who could pull the trigger when motion or play action had given his receiver separation. What we saw last year was a guy who held on the ball because he didn't think his guy was open enough.

If Zorn really wanted to give Campbell and the Skins the best chance, he would step out of that "West Coast Offense" box and put in the plays that would give his QB the best chances of success. I'm talking about a healthy dose of play action and motion; however, I am also talking about designed rollouts and QB draws.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 9, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

"Don't think he had a DUI bug. It was more like a wreckless driving bug. He would get on the interstate with his Ferrari and think he was on a F1 circuit.


Posted by: MrRed "

G*ddamn , keep him away from those PG County hot rodders that zoom the highway at 3 AM..Sometimes you'd hear 'em go PAYOWOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR- BOOOOMMMMM!!! splat like a bug!! I like the rich dude that souped out a Mercedes with a nitro motor and outran the cops through 4 or 5 states in the middle of the night!! peeples are the quaziest peeples..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

"Comparing her to Megan Fox is like comparing Donna Brazile to Halle Berry."

"...like comparing Donna Brazile to Halle Berry..."

Very, very, very funny.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 9, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Wreckless? I thought the wrecking was the problem.

Posted by: mack1 | July 9, 2009 8:25 PM |

Just a little fun with wordplay. :-)

Posted by: MrRed | July 9, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

What we saw last year was a guy who held on the ball because he didn't think his guy was open enough.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 9, 2009 8:26 PM |

He a scaredy-cat.

Posted by: MrRed | July 9, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I know this is a football blog, but the Lakers added Ron Artest and the Celtics added Rasheed Wallace.

That's a six man rotation of:

Celts--
Allen
Rondo
Pierce
Garnett
Perkins
Wallace

versus

Lakers--
Bryant
Bynum
Gasol
Artest
Odom
Fisher

You look at this and think that somewhere, a dunked on dude named L James is crying to get out of Cleveland.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 9, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Short of obtaining Chris "Hire-Ominous" Bosh, the Bullays should obtain the moral equivalent of Rasheed the Screed in the Terrible Turk..Both have uncannily similar games, and though Wallace can handle big men defensively better, Turk has a doper 3-pointer in the clutch, as seen in this last playoff season..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

But, uh, Odom and Verajao are free agents , too, they'd raise the quality of the interior decorum, as well..

Posted by: frak | July 9, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

My sister is 6 years younger than me and when I was single, anyone younger than my sister was off limits. You'd have to be ridiculously fine to break me from that. Those young chicks don't know anything about life or how to properly treat a dick. I was all about the 30-something cougars...all the experience, none of the commitment. Giggety.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 9, 2009 7:09 PM

That's because you had a sister youonger than you. I think it's dependant on each individual. But no one should be complaining if both individuals are 18 or over, irregardless of the age difference. And if someone does, it sounds pretty envious or sounds like jelousey (sp?)....

There are a lot of admired cheaters that we all love. As name these off top of my head a GAURENTEE you absolutely love atleast one of them:

* Magic Johnson
* Bill Clinton
* John Edwards
* John F. Kennedy
* Robert F. Kennedy
* Nas
* Martin Luther King Jr

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 9, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

is like comparing Donna Brazile to Halle Berry. Just not fair.

Posted by: brownwood26

That is so not right

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 10, 2009 3:19 AM | Report abuse

A surprisingly positive Skins nugget from PFT:

Theismann thinks Jason Campbell is bound for the Pro Bowl
Posted by Mike Florio on July 9, 2009 6:57 PM
The Redskins made no secret about their interest in potentially upgrading the quarterback position during the offseason.

In the end, neither Jay Cutler nor Mark Sanchez joined the team.

And so the job remains in the hands of Jason Campbell.

One former Redskins quarterback doesn't think that's a bad thing.

Joe Theismann thinks that Campbell is headed for the Pro Bowl. The man we used to call "Joey Sunshine" (when he was, you know, relevant) threw some of his positivity toward Campbell during a Wednesday night spot on Sirius NFL Radio's Late Hits with Brian McGovern and Carl Banks.

"I think the one thing that I see more than anything is there's going to be some be consistency around him," Theismann said. "He's finally in a system where he actually gets to practice the same things that he practiced last year and he gets to grow from them. And as a quarterback or as anybody studying film, when you look at yourself on film, you know why you made certain decisions. In Jason's case, seven of the last nine years, or eight years, both college and professionally, when he looks at film, it doesn't apply to the coming year because it's all different, so he's never really growing during the season. He will in this particular year. I watched him in spring ball, in the OTAs and the minicamps [and he's] much more confident, much more comfortable.

"Last year, Jim Zorn rebuilt his throwing style. He's got great size, he's got a great arm, he's got a terrific work ethic. I think that this young man -- and he's in the last year of a contract, so there's super motivation there -- but I think he's going to have a football team around him that will be a much better football team than it was a year ago."

Actually, we agree. The Redskins comfortably are flying under radar, and they could put together a surprising season.

Indeed, if they find a way to upset the Giants on the road in Week One, the 'Skins could reel off four straight wins, since they play the Rams, Lions, and Bucs to finish the first fourth of the season.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 5:34 AM | Report abuse

I think Robert DeNiro likes Blacks. At least the female ones.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | July 10, 2009 5:44 AM | Report abuse

"I think Robert DeNiro likes Blacks. At least the female ones."


It's really sad when people watch movies and think they are a reflection of how the actors or directors really feel.

I watched "Do the Right Thing" last night, and what, now I'm supposed to believe Spike Lee likes tossing garbage cans through the windows of Korean grociers to vent his anger?

Please.

Mature people love themselves and aren't totally defined by their race.

And anybody who needs validation from a 2 hour movie needs a hug and a pre-paid session on the couch with Dr. Phil.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 7:09 AM | Report abuse

And anybody who needs validation from a 2 hour movie needs a hug and a pre-paid session on the couch with Dr. Phil.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 7:09 AM

Who gets pre-paid? Dr. Phil or the chick with him on the couch?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 10, 2009 7:16 AM | Report abuse

And anybody who needs validation from a 2 hour movie needs a hug and a pre-paid session on the couch with Dr. Phil.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Most of your stuff I think is off the deep end but have to admit this is funny. lol

Posted by: jm220 | July 10, 2009 7:17 AM | Report abuse

How great would it be if Theismann were right about Campbell being headed to the Pro Bowl? Not only would we be in the playoffs, but there would be the smarmy side show of Cnyder and Serrato trying to make nice with Campbell. "We knew all along he had it in him. We never had a thought of trading him. We just wanted to motivate him with some of our 'tough love.' We made him what he is today. We deserve all the credit for his success."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 10, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Robert DeNiro does have a penchant for brown sugar, he was interested in Whitney Houston before she hit the crack pipe, but she chose Bobby Brown, maybe she would have been better off with the taxi driver.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 10, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

jm

"Most of your stuff I think is off the deep end..."

And I'm drowning in that end.

I've been called an "Uncle Tom" and "bombastic" and a "tard" over the past three days.

This offends as I'll admit to being two of the three insults.

My self-esteem has suffered the kind of shrinkage most men experience after jumping into a deep pool of cold water.

Sports_guru and Jason La Canfora called me yesterday to thank me for taking their place as the poster most folks would like to see spayed and neutered.

If I wasn't so arrogant, I'd need that pre-paid session on the couch with Dr Phil.

But I don't.

I'll keep banging from the deep end.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Mature people love themselves and aren't totally defined by their race.

And anybody who needs validation from a 2 hour movie needs a hug and a pre-paid session on the couch with Dr. Phil.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 7:09 AM


Amen, Moe. Well said.

I refuse to spend my life being a color. I choose to live life as a man who happens to be black, not a black man.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 7:52 AM | Report abuse

I've always said as a white male that unless you could wake up black tomorrow and be treated the same, racism exists. The fact the NE has so much hatred is disturbing and flies in the face of the negative sterotype of the South, where I live. Can't we just all get along?

Football, please start soon before we all go crazy! (may be too late)

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | July 10, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

moe, welcome to first, you bastards just couldn't go away could you.....local rag is reporting that the sox had scouts down in Tampa for docs start last night...we'll see, I might be coming around on it, if its 2 guys, and not the whole farm....Bucholz, and Bowden, straight up, nothing more, nothing less.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 10, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

When I hear Scorsese, I think "Goodfellas",
by far the best movie in the last 35 years or so. Will never get over the fact that it lost to POS "Dances With Wolves" for best picture of the year.

Posted by: tigger0705 | July 10, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Funny? Funny how? like a CLOWN?

... man - y'all started early this mornin'

Happy Friday y'all. Anyone care to conjecture who murdered Michael?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/07/10/2009-07-10_lapd_not_ruling_out_homicide.html

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

No, I have cousins that go to school with some of DeNero's kids, he has 2 kids that are 1/2 black.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Anyone care to conjecture who murdered Michael?

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 8:39 AM |

That fiend, Sahel Kazemi? Does she have an alibi?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 10, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Jeremy Jarmon draws 18 teams to workout
Posted by Mike Florio on July 10, 2009 8:18 AM

In some years, the NFL's supplemental draft attracts ample interest. In other years, it doesn't.

This year, next week's supplemental draft is getting some but not much interest, thanks to a guy who lost his college eligibility after testing positive for a banned substance.

Per the Lexington Herald-Leader, 18 teams showed up Thursday for the pre-supplemental draft workout of former Kentucky defensive end Jeremy Jarmon.

One team that sent a fairly heavy delegation to Lexington was the Redskins. Executive V.P. Vinny Cerrato spoke about the process of evaluating a player like Jarmon.

"First you evaluate [Jarmon] on film, and if you like what you see on film then it brings you down for the workout," Cerrato said. "It gives you a chance to see him move around and see him athletically, and you get to talk to him, his coaches and trainers and find out all the background information."

The fact that the most one of the most important pieces of background information -- a failed test for a banned substance -- didn't stop 18 teams from showing up tells us all we need to know about the attitude toward cheating in football.

The fans don't really care, the media doesn't really care, so why should the teams care?

Posted by: TWISI | July 10, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

talent_evaluator,
Campbell to the pro bowl? Theisman's words actually taken seriously? Man, you must be drinking the spiked koolaid this morning...

Seriously, it would be great if Campbell had one of those "career years" and I am sure Danny and crew would step up just like you suggest. It could happen, but the dice need to come up all sevens in some key areas in order for that to happen and I am just not feeling it. If Mike williams enters the regular season at 340 and Devin Thomas shapes up to be number two receiver, then I might start drinking that same spiked koolaid.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 10, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

TWISI,

Any info on this Jarmon guy? How big is he? Speed rusher?

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

...what some call cheating, others call surviving...

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

if you ain't cheating, you ain't tryin.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 10, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

UK’s Jeremy Jarmon attracts 18 NFL teams to workout
By Chip Cosby / The Lexington Herald-Leader, Ky.
Friday, July 10, 2009 - Added 1h ago
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Former University of Kentucky defensive end Jeremy Jarmon put his skills on display Thursday in front of representatives from 18 NFL teams at Nutter Field House.
Jarmon’s UK career was cut short this spring when the NCAA ruled him ineligible for his senior season after testing positive for a banned substance. Jarmon has applied for next Thursday’s NFL Supplemental Draft and has been working out in Nashville for the past several weeks.
Jarmon said he weighed in at 278 pounds, which is about six pounds lighter than his playing weight at UK last fall. His 40-yard dash time ranged from a 4.79 to a 4.83.
The Washington Redskins had four staff members on hand to watch Jarmon, including Vinny Cerrato, their executive vice president of football operations.
"First you evaluate (Jarmon) on film, and if you like what you see on film then it brings you down for the workout," Cerrato said. "It gives you a chance to see him move around and see him athletically, and you get to talk to him, his coaches and trainers and find out all the background information."
Cerrato joked that he had another reason for making the trip to Lexington.
"We just had a baby, so last night was the first good night’s sleep I’ve gotten," he said.
Cerrato said he was impressed with Jarmon.
"I think he worked out well," Cerrato said. "He ran well and was in good shape. He needs to get a little stronger, but he represented himself well. He’s a great kid, solid in the locker room. He’s smart. He’s got all of the intangible things."
Jarmon said it’s been a tough road since he held a news conference to announce the suspension, but he said he’s ready to begin his NFL career.
"I’ve been just trying to stay strong and stay focused," Jarmon said. "A few times in my workouts the past five weeks, I’ve zoned back and my mind has been here (at Kentucky). I had to get myself out of that mind-set and look forward, but it has definitely been a trial. I feel like I’m doing better getting over it, and now I’m ready for the next step in my life."
Jarmon said the NCAA suspension wasn’t a major issue among NFL teams.

Posted by: TWISI | July 10, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

"Some teams didn’t even ask about it," Jarmon said. "The questions they had were answered by Mitch Barnhart (UK’s athletics director) and Sandy Bell (UK’s compliance director). Some teams just wanted me to explain my mind-set, and throughout the process they’ve been understanding. All the information is out there, they’ve seen it all, and now they’re ready to move on and find someone to help them on their defensive line."
Another UK defensive lineman, tackle Myron Pryor, was selected in the sixth round of this year’s NFL Draft by the New England Patriots [team stats], and several other Wildcats signed free-agent contracts. UK head coach for offense Joker Phillips said the NFL often serves as the best recruiting tool.
"When we first got here, we had to sell playing time," Phillips said. "Now we’re able to sell the fact that we’re putting guys in the NFL. Getting another guy in the league like Jeremy does nothing but help us sell our program."
The supplemental draft is done via e-mail. Each team submits to the league the names of the players they are interested in, as well as the round of the supplemental draft they would like to choose them in. The team that submits the highest bid is awarded rights to the player. If more than one team bids a pick from the same round, the team with the highest pick in the round wins out. If a team uses a pick in the supplemental draft, they must forfeit their choice in the corresponding round of the next year’s regular draft.
"I don’t know if I should wait for a call or an e-mail or a text message," Jarmon said. "But whichever way it comes, I’m going to be happy when I get it."

Posted by: TWISI | July 10, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

twis thanks, good stuff. Redskins seem to have a legit interest in this cat....wonder if anything will come of it...anyone know what the draftniks had this guy listed as....seems like a 4th rounder wouldn't be too much to spend on him.....do we even have a 4th rounder??

Anyone know what happened to Flounder??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 10, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

T_E & RSH,

It all hinges on that O-Line, doesn't it? Soup was on his way there last year until that unit fell apart.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, TWISI. Sounds like this kid has good size, good athleticism. If he can do for our D-line what Gaither did for the Ravens O-line, that's a helluva move.

Greg, the supplemental draft works like this: if we take him in the 4th round of the supplemental draft, it'll cost us a 4th round pick in the 2010 draft. So it all depends on where we take him.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Do we know what type of ban substance they are talking about? We mean steroids or is it pot?

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I see the potential IF Orakpo transitions to SLB full time......

I see take a 5th round flyer on him........

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=Jeremy+Jarmon&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=nj9XStGDI5mNtgfRnvzcCg&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=15#

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Anyone got tips for Crabs around Solomon's Island? I want to go over that way Saturday afternoon.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for posting the Redskins new this morning, why no one from the Post could have jumped on that story is beyond me.

I am pretty sure if I was hired as the Redskins beat writer I could handle one article and one blog item a day.

Posted by: McMetal | July 10, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for posting the Redskins news this morning, why no one from the Post could have jumped on that story is beyond me.

I am pretty sure if I was hired as the Redskins beat writer I could handle one article and one blog item a day.

Posted by: McMetal | July 10, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Anyone got tips for Crabs around Solomon's Island? I want to go over that way Saturday afternoon.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 9:40 AM


Yeah, stay away from the hookers so you don't get any.

*rim shot*

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

All those who complained about LaCanfora at least he would manage a minimal 1 post a day and kept up on these kinds of stories (even if it was a re-posting)

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Anyone got tips for Crabs around Solomon's Island? I want to go over that way Saturday afternoon.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 9:40 AM

What specifically you want to know?

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

All those who complained about LaCanfora at least he would manage a minimal 1 post a day and kept up on these kinds of stories (even if it was a re-posting)

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 9:49 AM

I'm not sure what blog you were reading, but I seem to recall going a week without a new thread a few times last summer. I think the new staff is actually doing pretty well in that regard.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The German father told his daughter that he did want her marrying that English SOB but she married him anyway. This took place in Kitchener, Ont. around 1917. The married couple were my grandparents on my mother's side. The time,place and circumstances were different but prejudice is ubiquitous and ridiculous. My mother started telling us as young as 5 years old, you do not judge someone by their color or religion. You take them as individuals.

Posted by: chopin224 | July 10, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

4th, did you watch the video you posted? Marshall Faulk didn't have Portis on his list because he doesn't catch enough passes. Yet DeAngelo Williams is somehow the 2nd best back in the league. Horsesh*t...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Well, I'm perusing Chowhound and there's lots of conflicting advice on where to go.

I guess I'm looking for a no-frills but nice place where I could alternately get a crab cake or steamed crabs (local only, pls - Old Bay seasoned, not cayenne).

Any favorites?

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

BW - I was talking about Bucky's list. He's #2 om it and acknowledge's people sleep on him......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I thought you were looking to catch your own dang gone crabs. NEvermind.....

Favorites: Timbuktu by Arundel Mills Mall.


There are some good all you can eats, but they have faded in my memory. Check out online referals.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Anyone got tips for Crabs around Solomon's Island? I want to go over that way Saturday afternoon.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 9:40 AM

Her name is Samantha

Posted by: GreatOne1 | July 10, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

UNIVERSITY PLACE - Q13 FOX News has just learned that a former NFL player is among the dead in a house fire in Pierce County.

Family and friends identify the man as J.J. Jones, also known as John Jones. He played for the New York Jets in the 1970's. His best friend, Leonard Elion, tells Q13 FOX News that Jones was one of the first three African-American quarterbacks in the NFL. He says Jones was third string when Joe Namath was the quarterback.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Gotcha 4th...I read that already, didn't know if you got a chance to see the video. Hopefully Portis gets back up beyond the 1500 yard mark this year.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I thought you were looking to catch your own dang gone crabs. NEvermind.....

Favorites: Timbuktu by Arundel Mills Mall.


Agreed, love this place, great crabcakes.
AS big as soft balls.

Gotta get the double.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I take it you haven't had the Crab Bomb?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

redskinhead: "Samson151,I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of Campbell. I never watched him play at Auburn but since he has been with the Redskins I haven't seen the skills needed for a West Coast Offense. Again, I don't think he is accurate on the deep ball, but in addition to that, he doesn't take a shot until his guy is way in the open."

The WCO requires the QB to throw a number of short to midrange passes, usually out towards the wings. The idea is to use those throws the way a running team would use the run game -- to move the ball and control the clock. After a while the defense would become preoccupied with protecting the wings and gaps would open up in the middle. You probably recall how the 49ers WRs would take a slant pass all the way into the end zone. Or how all of a sudden you'd see Jerry Rice sneak behind a safety and Montan or Young loft a ball over the DBs head.

In a Coryell passing tree, which is what Gibbs adapted, the numbering requires you to look deep first and check back progressively inside. That's why you benefit from having really good deep throwers at QB.

But things have gotten all mixed up over the years. Brett Favre is nobody's idea of a WCO quarterback, yet that's what Mike Holmgren ran in Green Bay. A better QB fit was Matt Hasselbeck. But the original Bill Walsh West Coast offense needed a Montana or a Young or a Jeff Garcia -- mobile players without rocket arms who were nonetheless accurate underneath.

"What I saw of Campbell before his injury in Gibbs last season, was a guy who could pull the trigger when motion or play action had given his receiver separation. What we saw last year was a guy who held on the ball because he didn't think his guy was open enough."

And frequently, they weren't open enough. That was a problem. If you're going to throw into tight coverage, you need a receiver like Plax Burress or Larry Fitzgerald. The whole point of having small, quick receivers is that they can get open more easily.

"If Zorn really wanted to give Campbell and the Skins the best chance, he would step out of that "West Coast Offense" box and put in the plays that would give his QB the best chances of success. I'm talking about a healthy dose of play action and motion; however, I am also talking about designed rollouts and QB draws."

Zorn wanted to put in a bunch of Seattle style plays last season, but his team couldn't grast the offense well enough. You'll see them this season. It's not that Zorn is in a box; it's that his team was in a different one.

By the way, the quarterback draw is a silly play.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 10, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Catching up from yesterday...

Funny how all those dudes just got picked out like that. Definitely reminds of when they shut down 'Hamsterdam' in Season 3 on The Wire, they had 'em packing in to school buses -- the big joints too. And to answer your question 4th, hell no. I don't get bagged. Ever. Never did, never will. I never did a night in the bing.

"To fast for the feds, to cocky for the cops..."

I have no problem referring to myself as a black man. I feel more comfortable with that than African American, me personally. I don't know if I actually came from Africa or not, hell I neva been to Africa, don't know nobody in Africa. But Nothin for nothin b-wood, but that sounds like something Uncle Tom would say - while eating oreos, the classic ones and drinking milk, vitamin D, white milk.

Just sayin', bruh. I mean, it's okay to call you bruh (i.e. bro, b, brother), right?

Nah, just joking. But I have a serious question for all you (mainly the "brothas" up here, no disrespect), and this will help me understand something:

What do you all think about dark skinned women? I mean like Whoppi complexion, but not features. Whoppi is not even one of those "butter faces".

I ask this question and ask specifically black dudes up here, because I know some "brothas" had, or has, real complexion inferiority issues. I have some homies that won't even go near a dark skinned women. Sheeeeeeeit, I take 'em in all colors, forms (heights), and almost all sizes.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I take it you haven't had the Crab Bomb?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse


Please explain.......as I am a fool for some good food. Almost any food with "Bomb" on the end is generally excellent.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

hello.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 10, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and if you don't like dark skinned women, you don't like dark skinned women. That's it. Everybody has their preference, can't hate on that... I didn't ask to judge.

Case in point, I knew this one (white) dude from St. Louis, he was mad cool BTW... but anyway, his reason for not liking black women was because he preferred "pink nipples". To this day that was the funniest and realest explanation I've ever heard regarding that issue.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I think he means like a flea bomb... ew.

Thanks for the input folks. Now, where can I get some under the counter penecillin? (s to tha SJKing p?)

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

My wife is not light skinned or caramel brown, she's dark but not as dark as Whoopi and she is gorgeous and sexy as hell, but in my time I've had Black women from almost white to almost Black as night.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 10, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Crab Bomg is basically a straight crab meat crab cake. No filler. And it's big. And expensive. Jerry's Seafood. 2 locations....

For some reason, i have fallen out of love with the Crab Bomb. I think it was because I didn't engoy the last dining experince I had over there for my wife's BDay. Bad service...

RedDMV - I am married to a Dark Skinned female. Pre-Marriage I was open to all, though. And post-Marriage I am still interested in admiring from a distance all...

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

gatorskinz, you gotta try the Jerry's Seafood's Crab Bomb, a big ball of lump crab meat. They're in Lanham, Bowie and Annapolis.

I'll have to try Timbuktu.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Crab Bomg is basically a straight crab meat crab cake. No filler. And it's big. And expensive. Jerry's Seafood. 2 locations....


I never thought Timbuktu's Crab Cakes had much filler in it. That is why I like those, it is almost all crab meat.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

4th, you went to the Bowie Jerry's didn't you? Lanham, the original location, is a better bet. I haven't been to Annapolis but I have a sneaking suspicion it's not like Bowie.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

B-Mitch still firing away By Ryan O'Halloran on July 2, 2009 into Redskins 360

Former Redskins return specialist Brian Mitchell, who was bounced by ESPN 980 earlier this year, was on Jerry Coleman’s radio show in Baltimore this week. As expected, B-Mitch didn’t hold much back, continuing to say his removal from 980 wasn’t financially related.

Mitchell was honest during his time on the D.C. airwaves – he has no use for Vinny Cerrato as a front office chief and has also been critical of owner Dan Snyder.

* On having to change his style to remain on 980: “If I can’t be me, I don’t want to be there anyway.”

* On the behind-the-scenes decision making: “I know a lot of things that went down prior to [his firing] that proves it had nothing to do with the economy.”

* On the Redskins under Dan Snyder: “What have they really done in the playoffs to make people believe they’ve gotten better? Nothing.”

* On Redskins fans: “Fans believed more what I said than they believed the message of the people they put in place to give the message out.”

* On who’s the better GM – Ozzie Newsome or Vinny Cerrato: “Ozzie Newsome, hands down. He knows football. He doesn’t look at football as being fantasy football.”

Here’s the link to the interview: http://bit.ly/zpryy

Ryan O’Halloran

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Red,
Thats the most rational thing I have ever heard.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

My wife is not light skinned or caramel brown, she's dark but not as dark as Whoopi and she is gorgeous and sexy as hell, but in my time I've had Black women from almost white to almost Black as night.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 10, 2009 11:13 AM

So life doesn't imitate art. In the movies, the black nationalist always has a white woman.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

* On who’s the better GM – Ozzie Newsome or Vinny Cerrato: “Ozzie Newsome, hands down. He knows football. He doesn’t look at football as being fantasy football.”

That's the reals!

I'm looking at Sue Island Dock Bar now. Anyone try that place? It looks right. And MD crab ONLY!

I have out-of-towners and want to show 'em right!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Definitely adding Timbuktu & Jerry's Lanham to the list tho!! Thanks!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

bean

"...welcome to first, you bastards just couldn't go away could you..."


What shocks is we share 1st place and don't have a 5th starting pitcher.

Wang is ineffective and Hughes is now a solid 8th inning guy, possible Rivera replacement.

Go figure.

The Doc Halladay scouting is all a part of a game of chicken where Theo wants to trick the Steinbrenners into making Cashman 'do something' reckless.

AL Playoffs?:

Boston v. Detriot

Angels v. Yankees

League Championship Series:

Angels v. Boston

Boston wins pennant plays Dodgers in the Fall Classic.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Like the line in Animal House, "son, fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life"

Someone needs to let B-Mitch know that angry, bitter, and petulant is know way to go through life....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 10, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

moe, I don't want you guys getting him as badly as you don't want us getting him, Doc, Joba, CC, and AJ would be just what the Dr. ordered with that offense you guys boast......though, I think if you guys did get him, Hughes would have to be considered part of the deal....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 10, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

It was actually LAnham, but the server was new. I want to check Bowie's spot out....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

B-Mitch still firing away By Ryan O'Halloran on July 2, 2009 into Redskins 360

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 11:22 AM

So basically B-Mitch goes on the show of another guy who got canned from 980 and popped off about the Redskins and the station. Shocker...

I'm actually more surprised someone gave that @sshat Jerry Coleman a show.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I was tired of Brian Mitchell's act, oh about four years ago.

I appreciate the dude's perspective on the 'skins operations, but is act is just fatigued as this point. Add to that, every time he feels that the was unfairly treated in D.C. he goes to a rival market.

I know deep down, he probably wanted to play for Dallas, but he knew that would destroy his legacy with the Redskins.

I respect what B-Mitch did in D.C. on the field, but his constant b*tc*ing grew tiresome a little while back.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

4th, did you watch the video you posted? Marshall Faulk didn't have Portis on his list because he doesn't catch enough passes. Yet DeAngelo Williams is somehow the 2nd best back in the league. Horsesh*t...

Bucky had him rated #2 I believe. And how the hell is Fitzgerald not rated the best reciever?

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 10, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Catching up from yesterday...

Funny how all those dudes just got picked out like that. Definitely reminds of when they shut down 'Hamsterdam' in Season 3 on The Wire, they had 'em packing in to school buses -- the big joints too. And to answer your question 4th, hell no. I don't get bagged. Ever. Never did, never will. I never did a night in the bing.

"To fast for the feds, to cocky for the cops..."

I have no problem referring to myself as a black man. I feel more comfortable with that than African American, me personally. I don't know if I actually came from Africa or not, hell I neva been to Africa, don't know nobody in Africa. But Nothin for nothin b-wood, but that sounds like something Uncle Tom would say - while eating oreos, the classic ones and drinking milk, vitamin D, white milk.

Just sayin', bruh. I mean, it's okay to call you bruh (i.e. bro, b, brother), right?

Nah, just joking. But I have a serious question for all you (mainly the "brothas" up here, no disrespect), and this will help me understand something:

What do you all think about dark skinned women? I mean like Whoppi complexion, but not features. Whoppi is not even one of those "butter faces".

I ask this question and ask specifically black dudes up here, because I know some "brothas" had, or has, real complexion inferiority issues. I have some homies that won't even go near a dark skinned women. Sheeeeeeeit, I take 'em in all colors, forms (heights), and almost all sizes.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse
Its all pink on the inside.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 10, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

When they make the Brian Mitchell movie, he will be played by Samuel L Jackson.

THERES NO MOTHER F***ING GM ON THIS MOTHER F***ING TEAM!

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I was going off of Bucky his is a (real) Talent Evaluator. Marshall is just a talking head and picked the popular people.

Bucky also put Coooooley in his top 5 TEs where Faulk didn't rank him either and Put Owen Daniels ahead of him.

I agree, though, Andre Johnson is better than Fitzgerald. Look at their season totals....

Its:

1. Andre Johnson
2. Fitzgerald
3. Calvin Johnson

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

LOL Alex! And in a cruel twist of irony, Tom Cruise will play Dan Snyder.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Honestly he may have had more numbers, but Fitzgerald is the best reciever I have ever seen play.He also put up those numbers sharing with Boldin.Who else was there to throw to in Houston than Johnson?

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 10, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Most offset statistical survey done ever!

http://www.menshealth.com/metrogrades/09-july/sports.html

Apparently Freemont California is the number 1 place for all sports! In spite of the fact that they don't have any pro-sports teams.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Gotta agree with 4th...if you put a gun to my head and make me choose, I'd take Andre over Fitz. Fitzgerald got red hot in the playoffs, but he's gotta play at that level for a whole season before he gets that kinda love from me.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

MAybe you just haven't watched any Texans Football games. Andre Johnson is the straight up undeniable truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsL_Jjx_E8

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-bowl/09000d5d80e25bf3/2008-Best-of-Andre-Johnson

He does EVERYTHING. Fitzgerald just goes long but but not over the middle. AJ goes over the middle too and can beat double coverage deep.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV: "But Nothin for nothin b-wood, but that sounds like something Uncle Tom would say - while eating oreos, the classic ones and drinking milk, vitamin D, white milk."

We don't drink vitamin D. It's 2%, baby! We make up the extra 1% by eating mayonaise.

"What do you all think about dark skinned women? I mean like Whoppi complexion, but not features. Whoppi is not even one of those "butter faces"."

Don't knock Whoopie. She landed Ted Danson.

Beauty is beauty. Dark, light, in between doesn't matter as long as they laugh at my jokes.

On flip side, I'm as white as they come but, for some reason, the sisters love me. I honestly can't figure it out.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 10, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

It all hinges on that O-Line, doesn't it? Soup was on his way there last year until that unit fell apart.

Posted by: DikShuttle

Simple analysis -- and totally accurate

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 10, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

o_e, you're one of the few that can crossover with no problem. I know some dudes in order for them to get with someone outside of their race, they have to "be" a certain way.

It's my understanding that women like an incrediable amount of wit, arrogance, charm, and intellect as well. Don't matter what color she is, you have those and you can have any women on the planet. A little money and good looks can't hurt either.

Check, and check.

iH8, all too true. All pink on the inside, and when the lights go off, we're all the same color.

Oh and mayo is the best! Not too much though. I even eat it with fries sometimes -- without the ketchup, although ketchup and mayo needs to be put together in a bottle.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

although ketchup and mayo needs to be put together in a bottle.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

It is, that is basically what French Dressing is.

Only reason I found that out, is I took a girl out and I mixed my mayo and Ketchup and she asked me why I didn't use French Dressing instead, its basically the same thing.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey - if you went to Blair it was almost a given you were an equal opportunity lover. I'm not even that hung up on looks, to me it's more the way someone carries themselves, not what they're carrying.

Now I'm happy to be a one Cubanita man, tho!

Oh & Blowfly wouldn't let there be mayonnaise on the table. Said it looked like... well, uKno... ew. And you've never seen a 70 year old scraggle claw move that fast to threaten you, if you got too close to his Kentucky Fried. Wow! Scary memories!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

In the United States "French dressing" is almost always a reddish orange color (never true red, never white). It is a homogenized, pureed, uniform viscous sauce with a tangy sweet flavor. Unlike a typical French vinaigrette, there are no bits of herbs or spices floating in it. It is generally made from vegetable oil, vinegar, ketchup (or tomato puree), water, paprika, other spices, and sweeteners, all thoroughly blended.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I thought ketchup and mayo was Russian dressing without the relish.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh and mayo is the best! Not too much though. I even eat it with fries sometimes -- without the ketchup, although ketchup and mayo needs to be put together in a bottle.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse


Damn. You've out-whited me.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 10, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Red - You're card may be pulled for eating fries with straight up Mayo. That's is straight up nasty. What do you know about the Ketchup/Mayo mix? I discovered it in high school one day. The key ingrediant is pepper.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I thot the Mayo/Ketchup concoction was Thousand Island?! (throw in some sweet pickle relish and you're there...)

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Thousand Island - that's it.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Red - You're card may be pulled for eating fries with straight up Mayo. That's is straight up nasty. What do you know about the Ketchup/Mayo mix? I discovered it in high school one day. The key ingrediant is pepper.....

Posted by: 4thFloor

4th you card may need to be pulled as well.

Posted by: jm220 | July 10, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Don't knock it until you tried it!! I just use a a teaspon or so of MAyo. and take the fry to mix it around. If it gets to 'white' lokking I usually add more ketchup. I call it the light-skinned ketchup....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I thought ketchup and mayo was Russian dressing without the relish.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 10, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Dam Bi%&h tricked ME!!! It wasnt the frenchies after all!!! It was the Russians!!


Or maybe I was too drunk to remember the nationality. I you are correct, it is Russian, add relish and it is Thousand Island. OR maybe that is wrong too and it is really 3-mile Island.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thunk?

Fry sauce is a regional condiment served with French Fries. It is usually a simple combination of one part ketchup and two parts mayonnaise. When spices and other flavorings are added, it is similar to—but thicker and smoother than—traditional Russian dressing and Thousand Island dressing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry_sauce

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm not finished with my fancy sauce. You should have made your own batch

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 10, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I prefer mine with 2 parts ketchup and one part mayo. Does that mean it is still Fry Sauce? Or does that make it 4th's Light Skinned Sauce?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Mayo on fries? They serve them that way in Germany. I'm not a fan. Give me good old American ketchup on the fries any day. Now, ketchup and mayo mixed together... that's interesting. Mix in relish and that's Thousand Island dressing? Didn't know that. They should make a ketchup recipe book. I make barbecue sauce out of mustard, ketchup, vinegar and brown sugar.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 10, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

And don't knock the all Mayo with the fries until you try it, 4th.

For lunch the other day, I had the Angus "steak" burger from McDonald's, with onions, ketchup, mustard, tomato, mayo, cheese, and... bacon. (cheese and bacon were made for each other) My goodness... with fries with MAYO dip, and a strawberry milkshake.

Just f'n awesome, let me tell ya. And I got another 5-10 years of eating this way, so I'ma do it. 35, I consider is when you enter those latter years.

Again, living abroad for a little while gave me the chance to experience different things. Like those turkish sandwiches that starts with the letter 'B', I can't think of the name right now, but it's packed with all types of stuff, but mostly meat.

Living in Germany, when you go to the McDonald's over there they give you mayonnaise in little packets, you can even ask it come on the fries already. But the mayo and ketchup? I've been doing that for a minute. I can't have a sandwich without it, cold or hot. I don't like plain hamburgers, but if there is no cheese at least give me some ketchup and mayo.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Katchup and Mayo mixed is Russian Dressing, its very old country, I think they changed the name to "Thousand Island" in the US because of the commies. But just guessing.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. They put straight mustard and mayo in a bottle, but won't do the same for mayo and ketchup straight up.

Anyone trying to make a quick come up?

RSK, that's where I got it from.

Can someone give me the name of those turkish sandwiches? It's killing me that I don't remember the name.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/1134883.html

"Jason Taylor ready to run through a Brick Wall for Parcells and Co."

Seriously? He couldnt walk around a wall while he was here. Watch him have a great year, sometimes I feel the skins are cursed.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 10, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Bigotry of any kind really grates my cheese (lately Israeli zionism in particular), but I was blown away by a fiery brimstone speech Hitler gave at the Reichstag shortly before WW2 broke loose, when he said " The Jewish Bankers think they are going to build us up to tear us down, but I promise you, WE WILL WIPE ALL THE JEWS OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!!"..I suppose he was talking about Rothschild, Rockefeller and Harriman, history's war profiteers who funded his rise to military power (and of course Prescott Bush)..world crazy..

Posted by: frak | July 10, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Me and my posse went to an all-you-can-eat Mexican place last night. When I got into work this morning my colon was bursting at the seams. A torturous day for my sphincter you say? No way, Jose. I have a fart cushion on the chair in my cube. This allows me to pass all the gas I want and not worry about being a social pariah. The cushion has chemicals that completely neutrallize all the odorific gases like hydrogen sulfide. I would provide a 800 number you can call to get one for yourself but you are not supposed to advertise commercial products on this blog.

Posted by: WindyWilly | July 10, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Random asside. WTF is on the Popes head? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/07/pope-capitalism-abortion

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 1:27 PM

LMAO! I am with you on this one Alex.

Posted by: jm220 | July 10, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Babos?

Yeh - I grew up outside of Heidelberg and it's straight up mayo for fries there. And it's a tarter, more glutenous mayo, too.

My fav mayo is Deep South brand you get at Winn Dixie in the south. Their Peanut Butter is the bomb, too. Less sugar, more peanuts & pleny of BUTTER! yum!

...can someone punch my chest cavity a few times? I need to pass a Ham Sandwich through there...

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

We really need football to come back. lol

Posted by: jm220 | July 10, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Whoa! All these random posts make me think I just entered "The View" forum. I'll come back when there's actual football talk to be had. lol

Posted by: ga8085 | July 10, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I guess the Pope is a new member of the Red Hat Society?!

http://www.redhatsociety.com/

"Join the fun, become a queen..."

Sounds about right, lmfao.

And Windy, WTSJK?!@

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Whoa! All these random posts make me think I just entered "The View" forum. I'll come back when there's actual football talk to be had. lol

Posted by: ga8085 | July 10, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

OOOO Who gets to be Tim Hasselbacks batsh!t crazy wife?

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

A Cowgirl hat....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

mmmmm... Liz Hasslebeck... and mayonnaise...

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

And Windy, WTSJK?!@

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 10, 2009 1:37 PM |

There is at least on product on the market that one can injest to supposedly reduce problems with gas build-up. But why bother when you can use a fart cushion? It is cheaper and you don't have to worry about what side effects the medication may have on you - like drowsiness, itching, etc.

Posted by: WindyWilly | July 10, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

To continue random convo:

Stallworth is already out of jail. Seems like he just went in last week.....

Like (the rapper) Scarface said - 'Money Makes the World Go 'Round'.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/07/pope-capitalism-abortion

Posted by: alex35332

..And for my next impersonation, Barbara Bush..

Posted by: frak | July 10, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I have some homies that won't even go near a dark skinned women. Sheeeeeeeit, I take 'em in all colors, forms (heights), and almost all sizes.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Norbit has just the goil for u.

Posted by: WindyWilly | July 10, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the European mayo different than what you find here? I kind of remember it being more yellow over there (more eggs?).

Anyway, the fries with mayo is delicious. Too bad I gave up eating mayo a while ago. It was good while it lasted though.

Posted by: psps23 | July 10, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

mayo's nasty unless your eating european fries, which are a bit different, thicker and double fried.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Random asside. WTF is on the Popes head? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/07/pope-capitalism-abortion

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I think he got it with a kids meal from Roy Rogers.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 10, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Norbit has just the goil for u.

Posted by: WindyWilly


almost all sizes, but if we're talking Thandie Newton's character in the movie, then yeah, i'm good.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone tried to access RI from your phone's Internet browser? For me it starts loading and hangs at about 162k, everytime I've tried.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 10, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

mayo, ketchup, and a little bit of mustard. that is the true sauce and if you want to take it further I have also done mayo, ketchup, mustard and a lil bbq sauce. (hmmmmmmmmm)

Posted by: GreatOne1 | July 10, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

who's the d-bag batter that hit Erin Andrews with a foul ball?

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

bbq sauce is hittin'

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Windy Willie has a posse? Do they all own the same cushions? Hey if you have to sit on a nuclear reactor in order to get work done you might want to mix in a salad...

Posted by: ElYeah | July 10, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

There is at least on product on the market that one can injest to supposedly reduce problems with gas build-up. But why bother when you can use a fart cushion? It is cheaper and you don't have to worry about what side effects the medication may have on you - like drowsiness, itching, etc.

Posted by: WindyWilly

and when your done with it, just toss the cushion into the fireplace -- it heats up the whole neighborhood

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 10, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

alex cora, I believe red...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 10, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

let's see, so far the jibba jabba under this posting has included mayo recipes, farts, the Pope, misdemeanor traffic violations, bigotry, The View, films, Wile E Coyote and Marion Barry

Not sure if that's a record for breadth of jibba jabba in one posting, but its gotta be up there ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 10, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

ZZ
To be a stickler. We don't give a F*** about the pope, just his hat.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

yeah theres been a lot of talk about just about everything.

Anyone else think Billy Mays didnt die of a heart attack but that it was the Sham Wow guy that whacked him?

I love conspiracies.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | July 10, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

let's see, so far the jibba jabba under this posting has included mayo recipes, farts, the Pope, misdemeanor traffic violations, bigotry, The View, films, Wile E Coyote and Marion Barry

Not sure if that's a record for breadth of jibba jabba in one posting, but its gotta be up there ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 10, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse
I'm with you there Zce's. I actually found a couple of attempts to talk about NFL and Skins. But most of the time it was about Italians/Blacks, Marion Barry and Uncle Tom, Roadrunner/Speedy Gonzales, dating young girls/women & NBA. It's like watching a ping pong match. My head is on a swivel, don't know which way to look next.

Posted by: frediefritz | July 10, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I know for a fact that the sham wow guy knocked off billy mays

Posted by: GreatOne1 | July 10, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Does that cushion soak up the scent of queefs?

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 10, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Reading Material for some bulletin board mebbe:

DEPTH CHART: A preseason audition
According to what Washington Redskins backup QB Colt Brennan said on Sporting News Radio (as per Pro Football Talk), he thinks he could be the team's starter by 2010 -- when incumbent Jason Campbell could be on another team -- or earlier.

"Right now it seems like it's in everyone's hands," Brennan said. "For Jason Campbell it's his last year, it's in his hands to go out and earn that second contract and earn that for him. And for me in the preseason it's my chance to go out there for the second year and prove that I belong and have a great preseason and show that I belong and maybe could be a starter one day."

Posted by: periculum | July 10, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I know for a fact that the sham wow guy knocked off billy mays

Posted by: GreatOne1 | July 10, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I do to. They say if you listen to the recording of the 911 call. You can hear someone shouting from outside the house " Your gonna love my nuts!"

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Colt has said all along that he wants to be a starting NFL QB. I am guessing those quotes there are out of context. I also remember Tanner Cooley and a friend of his predict that Todd is gonna be on the Roadd

Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I do to. They say if you listen to the recording of the 911 call. You can hear someone shouting from outside the house " Your gonna love my nuts!"


Posted by: alex35332 | July 10, 2009 4:03 PM

I thought I was the only one who noticed he said that on his commerical. I was dying laughing when I first saw it.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | July 10, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I did too. TC will def be cut in the preseason.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Exact quotes from ESPN. Taken out of context? Perhaps to probably. The point here is that there really was no reason for Snyder to distract the FO and the coaching staff with his pursuit of 2 mediocre (by comparison) athletes at QB to Campbell when he had a pretty fiery competitor of the same ilk with decent low-turnover stats from College right at home.

Danny needs to learn to start solving the problems with solutions in hand instead of seeking 2 or 3 out in the bush.

Posted by: periculum | July 10, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard anything about the supplemental draft? Cerrato and three other Redskins staffers were seen on the University of Kentucky campus watching DE standout Jeremy Jarmon work out and apparently were very impressed. Just wondering if they would try to get him in the draft. When is it and how soon will we find out if they did get this guy?

Posted by: pmiller33 | July 10, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

TC will def be cut in the preseason.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

The chopper pilot from Magnum PI? I didn't even know he was in camp? Does he fly Snyder in every morning?

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 10, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

funniest line poll

The Selections:
"I know for a fact that the sham wow guy knocked off billy mays"

versus

"...that's like comparing Donna Brazile to Halle Berry..."


The '...shamwow guy taking out billy mays...' wins for timeliness, but the instant mental picture of Halle Berry and Donna Brazile in a sexy pose continues to impress.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I saw Canfora on NFL All Access the other day.

It looked like he was poured into his suit.

You'd think with the money he's making now, he could afford to go out and buy himself a neck.

Or a better suit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"Give us another 50 years and I think it'll be more equal, safer and just all around BETTER!"


In another 50 years I'll be dead and most of you will be under water.

Posted by: TheCork | July 10, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I saw Canfora on NFL All Access the other day.

It looked like he was poured into his suit.

You'd think with the money he's making now, he could afford to go out and buy himself a neck.

Or a better suit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 10, 2009 6:01 PM


LOL Moe!

You're right though...and I don't know if it's the glasses, but he looks like he's got a rogue eye too. Dude has a face for radio if I ever saw one...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I could go with Todd Collins hitting the street, but if they are going to do it, they need to do it early. That'd be fair to Collins so he might be able to hook up with another team. That'd be good for the Redskins because they could bring in another youngster to push Chase and Colt. Chase and Colt? That sounds like the name of a men's clothing store, doesn't it?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 10, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

And if they did have a men's clothing store, maybe they could sell Canfora a decent suit...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 10, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or is there something wrong with this window? Every time I bring it up there is no scroll bar and I have to hit "screen refresh" for it to appear.

Posted by: MrPink | July 10, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

RedSkinsHead,

romoshortball and romolongballs are the same dude, I had a log-in fiasco last season during the second dallas game and had to create a new handle. For whatever reason I'm logged in as one at work, one at home, whatevs...

I agree with a previous poster about the WCO/Non-WCO line being blurred these days, as is the prototypical quarterback for the "WCO" (samson?) Anywho, campbell has more than demonstrated the adaptability, smarts, and athleticism to excel in a hybrid of sorts, but based on short- to mid-range stuff to the wings to set up the slants and long stuff. BTW, you're right about the sideline go routes.

Believe me, I was screaming for more moss slants and play action last season, and for #12 to get in the game to be what Michael was for Aikman. Alas, you need protection and lack of predictability for PA. The QB draw should be few and far between IMHO.

If we can agree that we're both rooting for Campbell to succeed (you sound negative towards him despite your endorsement), then I think his success depends on the entire team executing Zorn's approach, and that (hopefully) Zorn catches up to the learning curve of understanding how to use the personnel he has (and that certain 2nd year pass catchers get with the program). I actually think that Campbell, should the game get faster for him in this system along with his release of the ball, will make the line's job easier and make them look better than they did last year. What can I say, it's all connected...

Crab bombs/balls/cakes are the sh*t. So was Whitney pre-crack. And whoever said Pacino's acting in Godfather was suspect should be publicly flogged; he was brilliant but hasn't done much more than bluster since. Bluster was cool in Devil's Advocate, though.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 10, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I have some homies that won't even go near a dark skinned women. Sheeeeeeeit, I take 'em in all colors, forms (heights), and almost all sizes.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 10, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Norbit has just the goil for u.

Posted by: WindyWilly | July 10, 2009 1:54 PM |

The memorial for MJ on TV drew big numbers - comparable to BO's inauguration and RR's and GF's memmorials. This despite the fact that those participating in the memorial were mainly D-Listers, at least for the part that I saw. Surprised that Kathy Griffin wasn't there but Brooke Shields was. None of the big-time black celebs like Denzel, Jamie or Eddie were there. Guess MJ is too radioactive for them. But with those big TV numbers there might be a movie of his life at some point. Wonder if Eddie is interested. He likes playing oddballs - Nutty, Norbit, etc. And he played some musican type in Dreamgoils - a combo James Brown, Marvin Gaye type. At this point he is a tad too old to do MJ's early years but still, he would figure some way to make it work. That scene in Nutty where the Klumps (mostly all Eddie except for one kid) are farting around the dinner table is a classic.

Posted by: MrPink | July 10, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

He was playing Satan, for Crisakes

Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 10, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Here's a funny for the MJ memorials...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyTBXzfQJ8

Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 10, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

When you look at the Skins QB situation it don't look so good. We all know about the problems that Campbell has with the WCO, finding "open" receivers, holding the ball too long, etc. But it gets worse when you look at the back-ups. Todd Collins is getting up in age and he actually is starting to look gaunt and emaciated. He could get "Tucked" away with one sack. And the other two are no better. They are both runts, especially Chase, and Colt throws side-arm so he will be lucky to get a pass past the line of scrimmage. With all the problems that Campbell has you have to hope that he makes it to the end of the season in one piece and then the Skins find someone suitable to take over the position.

Posted by: MrPink | July 10, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

And whoever said Pacino's acting in Godfather was suspect should be publicly flogged; he was brilliant but hasn't done much more than bluster since. Bluster was cool in Devil's Advocate, though.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 10, 2009 8:12 PM |

You may not call what he did in Scarface acting but it sure enthralled the hip hop community. And for those of you who have been following some of the threads on this blog, Pacino is an Italian and most of the hip hop community is black.

Posted by: MrPink | July 10, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Goodell could suspend him for the first 1-2 games of the season for this.

He isn't going to get an 8 game boot, but by pleading guilty is in line for some type of sanction by the league based on his past reputation from the Gurode incident.

The Redskins may have to open up the season without him.

Posted by: leopard09 | July 9, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse


Look out skins hater on the prowl...jer??off.....

Posted by: gre28man72 | July 10, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

You're right though...and I don't know if it's the glasses, but he looks like he's got a rogue eye too. Dude has a face for radio if I ever saw one...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2009 7:17 PM

Rogue Eye = Yes indeedy. And we all thought he was just slanted when that above picture was taken. After watching him on Total Access, we now realize he was sitting straight up and the glasses aren't crooked after all..........

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Here's a funny for the MJ memorials...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyTBXzfQJ8


Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 10, 2009 8:16 PM

That's some of the funniest stuff I have ever seen on youtube......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 10, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

heh heh

"We're all f*cked!!!"

Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 10, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

You may not call what he did in Scarface acting but it sure enthralled the hip hop community

Posted by: MrPink

On the whole, the acting was terrible, but the scene with the chainsaw in the shower was one of the most chilling acts of violence ever captured on film, no doubt. Anything after that, including the M16 and the mound of coke (and the lil fren) is, well, entertaining. However, the look in Michael Corleone's eye when he says he might as well return to his meal after killing his father's saboteurs, which includes the police captain that broke his jaw...well, no hard feelings, right mikey?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 11, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

In the words of Rodney King - Cant we all just get along !!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | July 11, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Anyone but me sick of the NFL "Dallas Cowboy Daily Story" Network?

It seems that each time I tune in the get some league news, it's, "Romo," this and, "DeMarcus Ware," that, and "Jerry Jones," the other thing.

Scattered in between all inane cowboys' chatta are the light mentionings that there are 31 other teams in the league-- something they need to remind themselves, and not us, about.

And if the network says, "Hey, there are allegations that the 'boys are popular," then why not produce a show displaying how the team has crashed and burned at the end of the season or failed to live up to the media hype?

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

"After watching him (La Canfora) on Total Access, we now realize he was sitting straight up and the glasses aren't crooked after all..."


If you ak me, he kinda looked like, well, a Flounder: the name of a guy who used to post right up until Canfora moved on.

They couldn't have been the same guy, could they?

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter if it's ESPN or NFLN, you're going to get your Dallas overdose.

I haven't heard any regular season predictions yet. I assume they have Dallas winning the super bowl, even though they have no WRs, a OB that's proven to be shotty in the clutch, an unproven coach, and at times an inconsistent defense.

I really don't watch neither for football during the off-season. It seems that the young guys or long shots don't get covered on the TV networks, but do in print. Those are the players I like to hear about.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 11, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Nah, Flounder used to justifiably rip La Canfora.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 11, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

RomoLongballs,
If you think I am down on Campbell, that's not the case. Every QB has strengths and weaknesses and it is up to the coach to make the most of the strengths and to downplay the weaknesses. So, I guess I am down on Zorn. I think he's being too rigid in his approach. I know he kept most of the run defense from the Gibbs regime last season because he felt it would be too much to roll in the WCO running game and so I will give him an "A" on that score. However, look at the season as it progressed. The offense became too predictable. When the o-line was getting its collective butt kicked, he had no adjustments, no answers for the problem. Going to something that looked more like goal line offense, that would maximize the number of blockers in the game, would have been a logical choice but didn't see it. Zorn stubbornly kept trying to run his WCO despite the fact that his QB was running for his life in the backfield.

Conversely, the Ravens had some issues with the inferior blocking of their tightends so they started using unbalanced lines to load up blockers on one side. That's a big adjustment a team made to cover their weaknesses. That's how teams win in the NFL. Also, they made it easy for their young QB by playing conservatively and emphasizing the running game.

My point here is, no team runs a pure WCO because they have to adapt it to the skill sets they have. I think the lack of adjustments on Zorn's part largely was responsible for the late season collapse. Look at the Redskins' players and tell me you wouldn't try to stretch defenses with long passes to Moss every game. I mean the guy is a burner and making defenses keep safeties deep would help Portis in the running game. I'd throw five or more deep passes to him every game. Even if Campbell overthrows him, the defense has to respect the deep ball. Then there's the fullback. If you're going to have two backs behind the QB then optimize your usage of both. Sellers had six carries last year for 24 yards and 12 receptions for 98 yards. Do teams really respect the fact that they have to look out for the fullback as anything other than a blocker? Getting the fullback more engaged in the offense will help take some of the heat off Portis.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 11, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

red

"I really don't watch neither for football during the off-season..."

I gave up on ESPN for sports.

But I like Rich Eisen, Marshall Faulk, Rod Woodsen, Mike Mayock, Warren Sapp: they really do a great job of explaining how the player sees things.

I like how the NFL guys go '...into the playbook...' and explain just what is happening on the field. It allows a fan to better understand just what occurs during a game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

redskinhead: "So, I guess I am down on Zorn. I think he's being too rigid in his approach. I know he kept most of the run defense from the Gibbs regime last season because he felt it would be too much to roll in the WCO running game and so I will give him an "A" on that score. However, look at the season as it progressed. The offense became too predictable"

Well, some of these points are fair enough, but the conclusions aren't. The post is too long to deconstruct but a few comments:

1. Not Zorn's fault they didn't get more of the WCO in -- if you recall, he wasn't planning on being Head Coach. That goes to Danny's fixation on a big name coach and his impulse once he realized he wasn't going to get one.

2. The second problem was the offensive personnel. Cerrato tried to address this through the much-discussed second round of the draft, without success. That's not Zorn either. Those three receivers might blossom this year -- the Skins desperately need it.

3. Gibbs bears some of the blame for last season because of his own unplanned resignation. He's done that twice now. Remember what happened to Richie Petitbon? At least he gave Cooke more notice.

4. The Skins' strong start masked the problems, just as the weak second half revealed them. I don't see how you could blame Zorn for a lack of offensive flexibility. Geez, it's not the lack of fullback runs or quarterback draws that causes the offense to struggle.

In sum, there's plenty of blame to go around, but none of that has anything to do with accountability. The Skins need to improve on both sides of the ball, and special teams, too.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 11, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

haynesworth will probably get a game or two suspension, right?

http://www.comcastsportsnet.tv/pages/inner_player?vidID=vidcast_10656&feedID=257&startclip=3

Posted by: nattylite88 | July 11, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It seems that each time I tune in the get some league news, it's, "Romo," this and, "DeMarcus Ware," that, and "Jerry Jones," the other thing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

In the their defense, ESPN & NFLN frequently disrupt Dallas Cowboys coverage with breaking news on which hand Brett Favre used to wipe his ass.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 11, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

o_trod


"In the their defense, ESPN & NFLN frequently disrupt Dallas Cowboys coverage with breaking news on which hand Brett Favre used to wipe his ass."


LOL!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"A lot of Italian Americans don't hold very high opinions of Blacks"


A lot of blacks have a low opinion of blacks.

A lot of whites have a low opinion of whites.

A lot of brown people cut their lawns and are happy to take their money: they do it because they know, unlike blacks and whites, that green is the only color that really matters.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Ha Ha Ha,

"A lot of brown people cut their lawns and are happy to take their money:they do it because they know, unlike blacks and whites, that green is the only color that really matters."

You can't leave it alone can you Brother?(don't mind if I refer to you as Brother do you, Bro?)

If green was the only color that mattered the "green" the recreation group from Philly paid to The Valley Swim Club outside of Philly would have honored that paid contract and not have told little black and hispanic kids that their not welcome to swim in their pool because they were worried they might harm their children or steal something. The club head stated, and I'm paraprhasing, "The inclusion of those kids would have changed the complexion and atmosphere"...

Color does still matter Mr.Oreo,I mean Moe, in 2009 even with Obama as president, your boy Spike Lee even said on CNN this morning that, "this post racial stuff is a joke, even with Obama in the White House it's not over".

You would think that money is green, and money spends, but in some cases, the color of your skin, it still depends.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 11, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

True indeed, if you got money, most people will value you by the depths of your pockets and not the color of your skin.

With the Pool club up in PA, it was them simply meeting the demands of the predominantly white members there. True enough they are still discriminating, but it does underlines Moe's point about how money does the talking today.

I think the club was more worried about pleasing the members that pay out the azz for membership rather than some summer recreation center.

Simply put: as a man of color with money, you can get further ahead in "corporate" America than a man of color with ideas and potential trying to advance in "corporate" America.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 11, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey it's too nice a day to be behind a PC talking racial stuff, don't know about anyone else I'm going out in my backyard and have a cold beer, you have one too Moe, and Red, and everyone else.....

POP!!

CHEERS!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 11, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

72Red, you can say that because you're not behind a PC at work.

It's like 80 right now. Mf'n prefect day...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 11, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

NFL Non-Redskins Rookies Whose Careers Will Be Worth Tracking:

a. Micheal Oher--ravens

b. Percy Harvin--vikes

c. Larry English--chargers

d. Andre Smith--bengals

e. BJ Raji--packers

f. Rey Maualga--bengals


Why you ask?: all players Moe had hoped would be redskins this season, especially English and Maualga.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

72redskin

"You can't leave it(race) alone can you Brother?"

It, race, wasn't something I brought into the discussion in this blog.

Frak posted to me about how he liked "Taxi Driver" and I responded.

From there, I was called an "Uncle Tom" in one of your posts because I am a republican and think Martin Scorese and Robert DeNiro have talent.

I'm not the race-obsessed, name-calling individual you're making me out to be: you need to check yourself on that.

And the late author/historian John Hope Franklin--a fav of mine-- is a better source for information about race than Spike Lee, btw.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

"a. Micheal Oher--ravens
b. Percy Harvin--vikes
c. Larry English--chargers
d. Andre Smith--bengals
e. BJ Raji--packers
f. Rey Maualga--bengals
Why you ask?: all players Moe had hoped would be redskins this season, especially English and Maualga.Posted by: MistaMoe"

Interesting list. The ones that after Orakpo are probably not as good as he is.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 11, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

samson

"...The ones that after Orakpo..."


All season, I'll watch and compare the three linebacker duos:


Lamar Woodley--James Harrison: stillers

Larry English--Shawn Merriman: chargers

Brian Orakpo--Rocky McIntosh: skins


English was a beast in the Senior Bowl, and seemed to be able to play three spots: de, slb, and wlb.

Having Merriman playing opposite him might bring him early success.

We have to hope Rocky has a great season. That'll improve Orakpo's game from day one.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Wowser!! Red rationalizing the swim club imbroglio.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 11, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Just got a Twitter Tweet Twoot from Devin Thomas. He apparently has an article about himself or some such in the new VIBE magazine.

I couldn't find it on the website,but talk about embarrassing!!

When did "Lil Bow Wow" change his name to just Bow Wow?

Man I've still been calling him Lil Bow Wow. Color my face Red!

Posted by: TheCork | July 11, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and apologies for unfairly implicating writers & directors for the dribble that comes out of hollywood. I believe most of those cats can and want to produce thoughtful, interesting, creative stuff. It's the balless studio execs that will only greenlight stuff with the lowest risk potential, ergo the derivative garbage that gets wide release.---HOGMEISTER

Not true. It's not dribble. It's drivel that comes out of Hollywood.

The balless execs you refer to want to keep their jobs, ergo, they greenlight a lot of crap.

Also, teens and tweens are most of the audience, so they like flicks like Transformers II.

Also, overseas BO is a big part of the formula--for instance Angels and Demons bombed domestically but did gangbusters overseas.

This is one reason why they stopped production on the new Brad Pitt movie "Moneyball." Because it won't play overseas.

But they just hired Aaron Sorkin to do a rewriter of Steve Zaillians's script, so it may get re-greenlit soon.

Hollywood is my life.

Posted by: TheCork | July 11, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

further proof that these dumb ass writers dont know what their talking about....

from fox sports

16. REDSKINS
RB:
Clinton Portis
Ladell Betts
Rock Cartwright
Marcus Mason
Anthony Alridge
Dominique Dorsey
FB:
Mike Sellers
Jonathan Evans There may be warning smoke before a house-fire develops in Jim Zorn's kitchen. Looking strictly at his 2008 season numbers, Portis enjoyed his best year since 2005 — and a Pro Bowl one at that — with 1,487 rushing yards and nine TDs. So why was he benched at halftime against the Ravens during the Redskins' late-season freefall? That's what he still might want to know (shh, it's because he's not much of a receiver or blocker). The veteran back was quoted recently saying he and his coach had long since patched things up. Ideally, a more prolific passing game would open things up for Portis and running mate Ladell Betts.

Posted by: jumbo5383 | July 11, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

gatorskinz, I gotta give Timbuktu and its crabcakes a thumbs down.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 11, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

"We have to hope Rocky has a great season. That'll improve Orakpo's game from day one.
Posted by: MistaMoe"

Depends on whether you think Orakpo should be playing LB at all...

Posted by: Samson151 | July 11, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

samson151

"Depends on whether you think Orakpo should be playing LB at all..."

I say, "Yes, Orakpo should be playing linebacker."

And all he should have to do is play run support and blitz from different positions.

I say turn the guy loose and let him go make plays.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

gatorskinz, I gotta give Timbuktu and its crabcakes a thumbs down.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 11, 2009 10:42 PM

You went? Did you get them fried? Bake is the best........

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 12, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

4th, we got the broiled crabcakes. They were sort of bland and the mixture used to bind the crabmeat tasted too eggy. It's not better than the Crab Bomb. Houston's/Woodmont Grill in Bethesda also has a much better crabcake.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 12, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

NFL Non-Redskins Rookies Whose Careers Will Be Worth Tracking:

a. Micheal Oher--ravens

b. Percy Harvin--vikes

c. Larry English--chargers

d. Andre Smith--bengals

e. BJ Raji--packers

f. Rey Maualga--bengals

Why you ask?: all players Moe had hoped would be redskins this season, especially English and Maualga.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 6:43 PM |

So we should all make a mental note to track these duds because a tud named Moe fingered them for fame? Sheesh.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 12, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

It all hinges on that O-Line, doesn't it? Soup was on his way there last year until that unit fell apart.

Posted by: DikShuttle

Simple analysis -- and totally accurate

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 10, 2009 12:24 PM |

So let's review the situation. When the Skins were 6-2 and rollin last season with road wins over Dallas and Philly and the OL was Sam, Ken, Rab, Thom, Hey and Jan ... . Ken was an old fart with creaky knees and he is gone and Jan had the lateral mobility of someone just ahead of AH on the interstate and he is gone too. All the rest are back and they have added Dock. So 2009 will rock. Simple. Heh, heh.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 12, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Could we get some more news on here? I had to find out from espn days ago that Zorn is allowing veterans to go home from camp at night instead of staying with the team. Isnt that big news (or at least interesting) because he wants to win back the vets? How will this effect the rest of the team??

Posted by: mharman1 | July 12, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

littlegreenb!tch

"So we should all make a mental note to track these duds because a tud named Moe fingered them for fame?"

Those '..duds..,' as you call them, are all 1st round picks.

So blame all of the NFL execs and draft gurus who also '..fingered..' them for fame, too.

Long-time posters remember that before the draft, a lot of folks here also thought they'd make fine redskins--especially Oher/Smith.

So save your mental space for the important things, like remembering the mouth works best when the mind is engaged.

Otherwise, you keep it closed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Samson151,
I’ll grant you that at least some of Zorn’s problem with installing the WCO might have been due to Gibbs’ late exit, but come on, this is football and Zorn’s playbook is not the same 700 page monstrosity that Al Saunders had. He had a whole season to install it and it seems like the more he mixed in, the less effective the team was.

As for getting the rookies to contribute, I think you can hang Kelly and his wobbly knees on Cerrato, but Davis and Thomas’ lack of playing time was because the coach wouldn’t put them in. Zorn is showing that he prefers veterans over having the rookies play and make their mistakes. I support this by the late season signing of Alexander as a fill-in for running back. This was an opportunity to bring in a young free agent and instead they signed an aging veteran whose fuel gauge is hanging on “E”. A lot of the rookies that looked good last year looked good because they got to play and make the mistakes early in the season (including Horton, who played because of Blache’s willingness to put him in, not Zorn’s). We heard over and over that the rookies had not learned the playbook yet. C’mon. You mean to tell me they couldn’t teach these guys to run a button hook or a fly pattern for a handful of plays? The bottom line on the rookies is they didn’t put them in games where they could get the experience and the rookies were a waste of money. If this is Zorn’s philosophy for young players on offense, then they should trade all of their draft picks for players on Seattle’s roster – and that makes no sense, either.

To be continued...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 12, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"Zorn is showing that he prefers veterans over having the rookies play and make their mistakes. I support this by the late season signing of Alexander as a fill-in for running back. This was an opportunity to bring in a young free agent and instead they signed an aging veteran whose fuel gauge is hanging on “E”."

That's an odd argument you make, concerning Alexander. They brought the guy in because Betts went down with an injury. Alexander was the league's best just a few years back, already knew the plays, and was motivated to prove himself. Besides, he cost virtually nothing. When it didn't pan out, they promptly cut him. 4 games, 11 carries. What promising young free agent would have gained from that experience?

Lemme guess: Marcus Mason?

Anyway, sounds like you've fixed your sights on Zorn as the culprit and nothing is going to alter that.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Samson 151,
Finally, if you think I was suggesting the team run QB draws and FB swing passes all game, then you weren’t listening. I was saying that the team has not utilized the talent where it was. I hate to use the Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson as an example, but remember Madden saying, “so many weapons”. It wasn’t all about the talent level of each individual player as it was the mandate of the offense to spread the ball around. When a defense has to plan for a fullback, a halfback, a tight end and two receivers catching the football at any given time, then it makes it harder for them to plan. In the running game, if it becomes more of a possibility that the fullback will carry the ball, this creates one more wrinkle for a defense to worry about. If Jason Campbell can make things happen with his legs, then the coach should give him plays that give him a chance to do this. This gives a defense one more thing to worry about. Collectively, when you leverage all of your players, you end up with an offense where the analysts are saying, “So many weapons”.

What I was saying is Zorn didn’t make the best use of the talent he had. (Keep in mind that when I say Zorn didn't, I am talking about the offense. I think Blache does a fine job with his defensive players.) Defenses figured out that if they double-covered Moss and put a safety on Cooley, then all they had to worry about was stuffing the run. Yes, Randal El caught a ball here and there, but ARE has the ability to drop a ball at the most inopportune time and defenses have figured this one out leaving him in man coverage thinking the risk is low. Sleepy Davis wasn’t even active for some of the late season games. Thomas was used as a decoy more than anything. Sellers got about two touches a game. Defenses were flat out keying on Portis and he paid for it with his body. C'mon, you can say the late season tumble was because of the injuries to players, but good coaches adapt their playbooks to the talent of the players they have available. Zorn doesn't do this. Unless he makes some big adjustments in his approach, this will cost him dearly as every season progresses.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 12, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Last season when the Wizards were playing so badly there was a continual drumbeat on the blogs to put in the young players and let them gain experience. The argument was that at least the team would get a chance to evaluate them and see if there was a future. The coaches didn't do it and this element among the fanz became increasingly irate. They thought the coaches favored veterans and were biased against youth.

If the Skins struggle this year, even a little, I expect the same thing to happen here. We'll hear calls for Colt or Chase, but in other areas as well. I expect these coaches will balk, too, for the same unstated reason: the kids aren't any good yet.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Samson151,
I don't think Mason was available, but they had Nemo Broughton on their developmental roster. Granted, they had him listed as a FB, but he had gotten carries at HB. Why have him on the developmental roster if they didn't plan on promoting him? He had to be better than S. Alexander who showed nothing when he got the opportunity. I am just saying, when the Giants were desperate for a running back a few seasons back, they signed Derrick Ward off the Jets developmental roster. He ended up sticking and contributing, but that was only because they were willing to give the young guy some touches. I don't think we'll ever see a similar situation with Zorn at coach.

I will root for the Skins, but I don't think Zorn is the guy. Frankly, until Snyder gets a real GM who hires a real coach, we're going to be having these discussions.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 12, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

redskinhead: "Samson 151,Finally, if you think I was suggesting the team run QB draws and FB swing passes all game, then you weren’t listening."

Actually, I was listening. Those are the plays you mentioned.

"C'mon, you can say the late season tumble was because of the injuries to players,"

I didn't say that.

"Sleepy Davis wasn’t even active for some of the late season games. Thomas was used as a decoy more than anything."

I think you have to take a closer look at this. Davis was the third tight end. You remember how surprised folks were that the team drafted him. They never got to the point where they were relying on two receiving tight ends -- expect that this year. Thomas, by comparison, was something of a developmental project. That's why he slipped into the second round, behind a couple less physically talented players. Expect more from him this year.

" think Blache does a fine job with his defensive players."

So do I. But Blache had been with the team for several seasons, knew his personnel well, and didn't have to be head coach. Horton was something of a desperate move that worked out beyond expectations.

Like I said, I doubt any of this will have much impact on your thinking. It seems pretty fixed. But there are solid arguments against the opinions you're expressing -- I'm just tiring of making them.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

"Why have him [Nemo Broughton] on the developmental roster if they didn't plan on promoting him?"

I expect because they had already made up their minds to release him at season's end. Nemo is an impressive physical specimen, but maybe not much more. If they needed somebody to run short-yardage, they had Sellers. Maybe they remembered how good Alexander used to be. The guy had scored 100 TDs, y'know.

I don't think you can infer a bias against young players based on that example. They tried something, it didn't work, they cut the guy.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, hopefully Mac caught the lead in his sleep..Hopefully he'll get reincarnated with a better hobby than Crazed Psycho Beetches From Hell..peace in rest..

Posted by: frak | July 12, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you redsknhead that Zorn doesn't use his players and their talents properly on offense. Yes the line broke down and all that, but I don't think he was anywhere near as creative as he could have been.

Toward the end of the season the offense was just painful to watch, and as my teenage son remarked, "boring". It WAS boring and about as exciting as a cinderblock and uneffective as hell!

I think he could have found someway to get Davis more involved, okay, he doesn't know the playbook. So what? Get the guy on the field, dumb it down, draw it in the dirt if you have to, whatever the fu&k you gotta do and let this guy do what he can do. Football is not that dam complicated.

Yeah he could have done more with Sellers, the offense was just too predictable, too easy to defend and game plan for, and nowhere near as multi-faceted as it could have been with the talent on the roster.

Zorn needs to step it up, the offense needs to be more dimensional and schemes/packages and plays need to be devised and designed to suit the specific talents and abilites of ALL OFFENSIVE SKILL PLAYERS!!!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 12, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

In case there are any boxing fans here: on the death of Arturo Gotti (from SI.com)

"The former junior welterweight champion was apparently strangled with the strap of a purse, which was found at the scene with blood stains...The investigation was not complete, but Saraiva said authorities were preparing to present a formal accusation against Rodrigues, who denied being involved in her husband's death.
Police said Rodrigues, a Brazilian, could not explain how she spent nearly 10 hours in the room without noticing that Gatti was already dead."

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

72: "Zorn needs to step it up, the offense needs to be more dimensional and schemes/packages and plays need to be devised and designed to suit the specific talents and abilites of ALL OFFENSIVE SKILL PLAYERS!!!!"

Alas, you might have convinced me if you'd used more caps and exclamation points.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn needs to step it up, the offense needs to be more dimensional..."

I'm pretty sure the Skins made use of all three available dimensions, plus of course time...

Unless you're thinking of running some plays at the molecular level.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

sam151, the only thing at molecular level are your smart azz replies.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 12, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

It all hinges on that O-Line, doesn't it? Soup was on his way there last year until that unit fell apart.

Posted by: DikShuttle

Simple analysis -- and totally accurate

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 10, 2009 12:24 PM |

So let's review the situation. When the Skins were 6-2 and rollin last season with road wins over Dallas and Philly and the OL was Sam, Ken, Rab, Thom, Hey and Jan ... . Ken was an old fart with creaky knees and he is gone and Jan had the lateral mobility of someone just ahead of AH on the interstate and he is gone too. All the rest are back and they have added Dock. So 2009 will rock. Simple. Heh, heh.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | July 12, 2009 10:16 AM |

Bag - dude, you nailed it. The Skins coulda had the '66 Packers OL and they still would have been skunked after their opponents neutralized Portis and Moss.

Posted by: BiggerVance | July 12, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

littlegreenb!tch

"So we should all make a mental note to track these duds because a tud named Moe fingered them for fame?" ...

So save your mental space for the important things, like remembering the mouth works best when the mind is engaged.

Otherwise, you keep it closed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 11:40 AM |

MistaHoeMoe - dude, been a rough patch lately with all these bloggas touchin up your azz!

Posted by: BiggerVance | July 12, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

MistaHoeMoe - dude, been a rough patch lately with all these bloggas touchin up your azz!

Posted by: BiggerVance | July 12, 2009 2:54 PM

Hasn't been no "rough patch" for MistaMoe. That guy brings it with every post. Only rough patch is for puny whiners posting the same trash with multiple handles.

BiggerVance=BaggerVance=LittleGreenBag=Etc.

Posted by: troll1 | July 12, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I've been following the Sam151 and 72skins debate and I'd like to add an ingredient that may add some spice to our offense...Audible.(this is just tactic I used to use in Madden04 n 05 online for ps2! I was ranked as high as in the 150's that year; the last years I stopped playing Madden as well!) Audibles are effective in the NFL too and depends on how well the Coach n QB knows the playbook as well as studies film...

Moe,
You opened a can of worms with your response to my Pop Quiz. Can't say you weren't warned. I'm surprised Frak hasn't jumped on yo azz.

LGB and Vance Bros,
Kudos, for I share your sentiment on our offense. Once defenses start respecting Soup, our offense will improve; and that's on JC17\!!!

Posted by: Vicc | July 12, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the lack of creativity in his play calling, too conservative, sometimes Zorn looked like a career bureaucrat , just going through the motions of his career..Hopefully that'll change with the addition of Mike "ITS THE BLIMP!!" Williams,haha, damn my snide..

Posted by: frak | July 12, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

72Redskins-

'I agree with you redsknhead that Zorn doesn't use his players and their talents properly on offense. Yes the line broke down and all that, but I don't think he was anywhere near as creative as he could have been.

Toward the end of the season the offense was just painful to watch, and as my teenage son remarked, "boring". It WAS boring and about as exciting as a cinderblock and uneffective as hell!

I think he could have found someway to get Davis more involved, okay, he doesn't know the playbook. So what? Get the guy on the field, dumb it down, draw it in the dirt if you have to, whatever the fu&k you gotta do and let this guy do what he can do. Football is not that dam complicated.'

--So your solution to fixing a boring, unimaginative, ineffective offense is to dumb it down even more to get a slow learning rookie on the field?--

'Yeah he could have done more with Sellers, the offense was just too predictable, too easy to defend and game plan for, and nowhere near as multi-faceted as it could have been with the talent on the roster.

Zorn needs to step it up, the offense needs to be more dimensional and schemes/packages and plays need to be devised and designed to suit the specific talents and abilites of ALL OFFENSIVE SKILL PLAYERS!!!!'

--In the previous paragraph, you suggested dumbing things down and said that football doesn't have to be that complicated. Then you want more be more demensional and have more schemes/pakages and plays designed?

It's got to be one or the other. More dynamicor more streamlined. Can't be both.

Last year went south when the o-line got banged up. Kendall and Jansen are gone, replaced with younger and hopefully more durable players. The coaches and players have a full year in the offense now so it should open things up a little more as well.

I have some hope that this year will be better but as a Redskins fan I know better than to expect it to be.


Posted by: Original_etrod | July 12, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Rosenhaus reels in another Redskin
Posted by Mike Florio on July 12, 2009 1:47 PM
Agent Drew Rosenhaus represents many NFL players.

He also represents many members of the Washington Redskins.

And he's just added another one.

Rosenhaus has announced that Washington tight end Fred Davis, a second-round pick in the 2008 draft, has hired the Miami-based firm.

Typically, a veteran player retains Rosenhaus in the hopes of scoring a new contract -- or a trade to a team that will provide one. The fact that Davis has completed only one year of a four-year rookie deal might make that task a tough one to accomplish.

Davis becomes the ninth Redskins player represented by Rosenhaus. Per NFLPA records, the others are running back Rock Cartwright, linebacker London Fletcher, linebacker Rocky McIntosh, defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery, receiver Santana Moss, running back Clinton Portis, fullback Mike Sellers, and receiver Devin Thomas.

Media reports from 2008 indicate that Davis previously was represented by Adam Heller of DeBartolo Sports; the firm's web site, as of this posting, still lists Davis as a client.

Davis' biggest claim to NFL fame to date was the fact that he supposedly overslept not long after being drafting, missing practice during a mandatory minicamp.

So maybe Rosenhaus landed Davis by using the same pitch that once was used on fictional marathon champion Jean-Paul Jean-Paul.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 12, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"...dude, been a rough patch lately with all these bloggas touchin up your azz!"


The thing is, they, like you, try '...touching me...' up my azz and fail as their tongues aren't as long as the ebony pole I sliced up theirs.

And so, I tell them to do like Avis and try harder.


Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

vicc

"Moe, You opened a can of worms with your response to my Pop Quiz."


I'm sorry.

I don't remember that poll.

Please repost it for a brother.

My mind is a terrible thing when wasted.

And right now, it is.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

The Congressional Black Caucus wants to put Micheal Jackson's image on a postage stamp.

They should work with Fruit of the Loom people to put his picture on little boys' underwear.

After all, that's where he wanted to be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

vicc

"Moe, You opened a can of worms with your response to my Pop Quiz."


I'm sorry.

I don't remember that poll.

Please repost it for a brother.
My mind is a terrible thing when wasted.

And right now, it is.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse


lol,

I'm 7 Heinekens deep..and feeling it. A
loud cry from my Hay-days in Germany! Can't wait for those fillet-Mignons to come off the grill..

Jus for you:
"Why vote republican if U black?"

I hate to open a can of worms, but if the young people out there acutally opened up a history book, they'd learn the Democratic Party had its collective foot on the aspirations of black folk in this country a lot longer and to a greater degree than the Republican Party ever did.

...

That's what this black republican does.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 8, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse


One of the answers to that question was "d)I DON'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT DECOROUS"

You didn't adhere to my lessons in decorum, so now every angry black person who claims that color still matters(and the irony is that they perpetuate it) will criticize you and take collective shots for being a 'black republican.'

Not necessarily in a political fashion.

I know a lot of 'black republicans' afraid to come outta da closet because of incessant stereotypical ignorance!

Posted by: Vicc | July 12, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Is the Congressional Black Caucus fronting for NMBLA -- National Man Boy Love Association?

Posted by: troll1 | July 12, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I got no problems with Mista Moe or anybody, even Hitler had some good qualities (like Michael Jackson, he was good with kids), but uh, yeah, you can see what Skins management is trying to do , create steady time-mangement, dominating slow drives that wear the opposition down. Unfortunately, this requires a solid offensive line, more solid than the one we had last year. The other thing is, there's a lot to be said for big-play ball, I remember when Favre was coming up strong, the Packers were making BIG CHUNKY TOUCHDOWNS, 50+ on the regular, that kinda stuff sends an electrifying jolt through the whole team and the fans, sells jerseys and merchandise, Dan..

Posted by: frak | July 12, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

frak

You're cool to me.

It's just there are some dudes/posters out there trying build themselves up by tearing other folks down.

Now that ain't ever cool, to me or anybody else what got good sense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

vicc

Lol!!!!!

I totally forgot about that poll.

It generated two days' worth of discussion, if I'm right.

Keep up the good work!

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 12, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, nah, you're cool to me , too, Mista Moe, I can tell you're a DC homie...I speaks my minds and thats it..Though I may occasionally trip, granted..

Posted by: frak | July 12, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

NFL Non-Redskins Rookies Whose Careers Will Be Worth Tracking:

a. Micheal Oher--ravens

b. Percy Harvin--vikes

c. Larry English--chargers

d. Andre Smith--bengals

e. BJ Raji--packers

f. Rey Maualga--bengals

Why you ask?: all players Moe had hoped would be redskins this season, especially English and Maualga.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 11, 2009 6:43 PM |

One poster made a comment about this post that was overly harsh from the personal perspective but really, what are we supposed to make of it?

1. That Moe is good at recognizing talent? All of the players listed were projected 1st round picks, some of whom the Skins never even had a chance of getting anyway, so it will surprise no one if some of them shine in 2009.

2. That Moe's take on things is so important that we should remember his prognostications and celebrate when his predictions come true? Nothing against Moe personally, but I think most of us have a lot stuff going on in our lives that requires the use of our mental faculties and there just isn't anything left over for enterprises of this kind.

3. FO schadenfreude? This is the raison d'etre of the RI blog, to revel in the mistakes, both real and imagined, that are perceived to be made by the Skins' FO. So I guess I shouldn't take Moe to task for this because if I did I would be taking on the RI blog. But still, if English turns out to be a beast alongside Merriman and Orakpo fizzles, you can be sure Moe and a lot of other posters will be singing chorus after chorus of "I told you so!".

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | July 12, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

2 sports celebrity deaths, I wonder who the 3rd is going to be.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 12, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

One poster made a comment about this post that was overly harsh from the personal perspective but really, what are we supposed to make of it?

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | July 12, 2009 7:21 PM

Speaking for myself, what I make of it is that Moe will be looking to see how they turn out and compare them to his own pre-draft expectations. Don't you have a list of players like that who you will follow?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 12, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

So Kim Song-Il has pancreatic cancer...That's what happens when you drink all the whiskey the Rockefellers can provide to be their designated scapegoat...

Posted by: frak | July 12, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

frak: "Yeah, the lack of creativity in his play calling, too conservative, sometimes Zorn looked like a career bureaucrat , just going through the motions of his career.."

Sure, Zorn probably was just overconfident, figuring that Danny never fires anybody.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Well, he sure tried to rode ol' Portis into the groun, without any orfensive line, second haf of seasoning..

Posted by: frak | July 12, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

They is some nice hallucinogenic qualities to whiskey, but wisdom has shown me clears, even white lightning , don't stick to you as much for the hangovers..The Russkies and their potato wodka ain't dumb..

Posted by: frak | July 12, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

frak: "Well, he sure tried to rode ol' Portis into the groun, without any orfensive line, second haf of seasoning.."

And so you concluded he lacked creativity? He couldn't think of any better plays?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

NFLN did their latest Top 10 over the weekend...Top 10 Gunslingers. The Skins were very well represented as Slingin' Sammy Baugh was ranked #5 and Sonny Jurgenson was #3. No surprise Brett Favre was #1.

Damn we need a new thread...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 13, 2009 5:14 AM | Report abuse

francobegbie: "3. FO schadenfreude? This is the raison d'etre of the RI blog, to revel in the mistakes, both real and imagined, that are perceived to be made by the Skins' FO."

Yeah, that's probably a fair statement -- at least that's how it's devolved. Of course the criticism frequently spreads to coaches and players. Owners are always fair game. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, that's our collective motto. Sports arguments are fun, because nobody gets hurt and as long as we don't take ourselves too seriously, we might even come up with a few decent observations. The main off-season subject being the draft, of course, where everybody has their personal collection of favorites and nags.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 13, 2009 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Manny Acta fired? That makes less sense than firing Marty Schottenheimer. Anytime I think the Redskins FO looks bad, I just remember the Nats and realize that it could be worse.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 13, 2009 5:47 AM | Report abuse

Manny Acta fired? That makes less sense than firing Marty Schottenheimer. Anytime I think the Redskins FO looks bad, I just remember the Nats and realize that it could be worse.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 13, 2009 5:47 AM


Apples and oranges...the Nats are essentially an expansion team and the Skins were a half-decent team when Snyder bought them. It's one thing to fail to make something really bad into anything good, but a whole other thing to take something pretty good and make it worse.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 13, 2009 5:59 AM | Report abuse

The Nats just needed a corpse to throw under the bus. I doubt it will hurt Acta's long term prospects as a manager elsewhere. He's proved himself to be a standup guy and you can bet he'll get good references.

Hired to be fired, that's the baseball way.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 13, 2009 6:39 AM | Report abuse

He was supposed to be fired a month ago. But they held the trigger because Ken Rosenthal got wind of it and broke the story. AND, they beat the Yankees.

Ken stod by his story that he will still be fired and he is now vindicated today......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 13, 2009 6:45 AM | Report abuse

francobegbie

"...if English turns out to be a beast alongside Merriman and Orakpo fizzles, you can be sure Moe and a lot of other posters will be singing chorus after chorus of "I told you so!".

Other poster might sell out about the Orakpo pick if English or Maualga or Oher impress, but I won't.

I just posted that list of 1st round picks to generate a little football chatta on a Sunday is all.

And btw, each player was someone availiable in a position of need (except Harvin) when the 13th pick came up.

And the redskins selected a guy who is going to be an excellent player: Orakpo.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 13, 2009 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Manny Acta fired?

I guess now, he'll have time to get his act ta' together.

(INSERT rimshot audio and shouts of, "Shut up you arrogant, self-important Yankees' fan," mixed in with bad pun groans.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 13, 2009 7:44 AM | Report abuse

I think Orakpo is gonna be a player if the coaching staff doesn't screw up his confidence by moving him all around. But I think English was drafted to REPLACE Merriman, not play alongside him. Don't be shocked to see Merriman in burgundy and gold next year...dude grew up in PG County and went to MD and Snyder LOVES big names.

That is, if there's a new CBA between now and next offseason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 13, 2009 7:44 AM | Report abuse

none other than Chris Cooley fills in for Peter King on SI's Monday Morning Quarterback......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 13, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

You got a link, Greg?

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 13, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 13, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Acta was a classic example for nice guys finishing last.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 13, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, I agree on English. I think he was drafted to be Merriman insurance - injury or free agency. English may get some reps but I don't see him playing ahead of Shaun Phillips.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 13, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

"I think Orakpo is gonna be a player if the coaching staff doesn't screw up his confidence by moving him all around."


True.

The plan for Orakpo should be simple: run-support, blitz, some special teams work.

And for K Barnes, the plan is very, very simple: beat out F Smoot--if you can.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 13, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

moe, this might be the kick in the pants that smoot needs, so that works out great either way, if he raises his game, thats great, but if Barnes beats him out, also good....Orakpo, I think is gonna be told to go get the qb a lot........which I think he's gonna be very good at.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 13, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Cooley is pro-18 game system. I agree. Though I would rather see a 17 game (1 neutral sight a year with it being a AFC-NFC annual rival) and get rid of most of pre-season and build a farm league that plays earlier in the regular season.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 13, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of Cooley, the other day, NFLN's Marshall Faulk ranked the league's top 5 tight ends and left Cooley off the list.

He put the texans' Owens Daniels ahead of Cooley.

Cooley's career numbers:

TOTAL 314 3,457 11.0 66 28

Daniels' career numbers:

TOTAL 167 1,982 11.9 35 10

Cooley is a Pro Bowler 5 years into his career, while Daniels is 3 years into his.

They both are tight ends who play opposite dynamic UM wideouts--Moss, A Johnson.

But Cooley plays in a run-first system, meaning he'd probably have even better numbers if feeding CP the ball wasn't so important to the team's progress.

Nothing against Faulk or Daniels, but I'm taking #47 as a Top 5 league tight end any day.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 13, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Moe
Read what cooley said about all the AFC top TE's going into the NFC and the competition for Pro-Bowl.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 13, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Gno Gnews is Good Gnews?

(w/ Gary Gnu, of course...)

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 13, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

9. I think putting peanut butter, mustard and ham on a sandwich is awesome. The three ingredients are magical when put together.

My Maaan!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 13, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Dik, I'm a fan of Cooley's #8:

"I think if athletes/celebs are out having a good time, I don't think fans should try to take advantage of them by sneaking photos online. Cell phone cameras are out of control right now. Just shake hands and say hello. Oh, and I know that if someone tries to video me taking a piss again, I'm not going to hesitate to punch them square in the face."

Hilarious...vintage Cooley!

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 13, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

For all out of towners like me, here’s some good news. I saw a blurb across the bottom of the screen yesterday saying that NFL network will be showing the 8/22 Redskins/Steelers pre-season game live and in HD…… I checked the website, but there is nothing to confirm this yet, but here’s hoping…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 13, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

PFT chimes in on the Cooley column:

Cooley lobbies for "smart football"
Posted by Mike Florio on July 13, 2009 9:14 AM
The four-week sabbatical from his Monday Morning Quarterback column continues for Peter King of SI.com. And so does the parade of guest writers.

This week, Redskins tight end Chris Cooley gets the honors, and he devotes the fairly well written (when grading on a curve) item primarily to making the case for the NFL to load up the football with the technology that once caused Michael Scott to drive into a lake.

It's not a new idea (sorry, Chris); many have argued over recent years that the notoriously change-resistant NFL should embrace all available computerized innovations. The goal should be to "get it right" all the time, and many tools are available for making that happen.

And the technologies are in the works. For example, in December 2008, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported that a professor at Carnegie Mellon University is developing a ball equipped with remote sensing technology.

But Cooley isn't a fan of all technology.

"Cell phone cameras are out of control right now," Cooley writes. "Just shake hands and say hello. Oh, and I know that if someone tries to video me taking a piss again, I'm not going to hesitate to punch them square in the face."

So, under that standard, wouldn't Cooley have to punch himself?

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 13, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

lmao, Brownie!

I've also been talking about 'smart football' w/ family & friends for years only to hear 'technically unfeasible'. Nice to hear a pro bring it up.

Mebbe next generation of players will get the benefit of obviated zebras!

Oh - & today's listening assignment was going to be early Midnight Oil, but since my browser crashed now it's Pixies B-Sides. Black Francis yourself into a Fight Club Frenzy!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 13, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Moe - Your logic makes Orakpo a win-win when keeping my score. I was clearly against Orakpo before I was for him, witch wasn't was until we drafted him. So, if he succeeds I can say I was with since day one when we drafted him. If he is a bust, I can say I clearly called this 3 months before the draft that he wasn't a good fit for us and the biggest risk out there......

Robert Ayers is who you should keep your eye on. He will be a very good DE in this league.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 13, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse


Posted on Mon, Jul. 13, 2009
Chase Daniel used to dealing with doubters

By BLAKE HURTIK
Special to the Star-Telegram
SOUTHLAKE — Chase Daniel has had to deal with doubters his entire football career.
His size was the difference between attending Texas and Missouri. It also caused 32 teams to pass on him in the 2009 NFL Draft.

But Daniel, who is listed at 6 feet, 225 pounds, has overcome those doubts, time and time again. At Southlake Carroll, he won two state championships. At Missouri, he was a Heisman Trophy finalist. Now, he is looking to latch on as the third quarterback with the Washington Redskins after signing a free-agent deal.

"It will never stop," Daniel said. "Whether I go to broadcast after [my NFL career] or own my own business, everyone’s going to doubt me."

......................

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/1482190.html

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 13, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

UFL will be using the Smart ball in their first season. So let us see how that works out.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 13, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

"Acta was a classic example for nice guys finishing last. Posted by: alex35332"

So I assume that when he won the job to begin with, that was a classic example of nice guys finishing first?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 13, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

"It will never stop," [Chase} Daniel said. "Whether I go to broadcast after [my NFL career] or own my own business, everyone’s going to doubt me."

I confess I sort of doubt him.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 13, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

My 2nd favorite:

6. I think I made the Pro Bowl the last two seasons. This offseason, Tony Gonzalez and Kellen Winslow were traded into the NFC, and with young guys like Greg Olsen becoming better players, it will be very competitive when it comes to filling the two NFC tight end spots in this year's Pro Bowl. Oh, I forgot to mention Jason Witten.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 13, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

The best thing he wrote in the whole article:

1. I think the Washington Redskins are going to have an outstanding season and win a ton of games. We've done everything a team can do in the offseason to get better. Jason Campbell is so close to being one of the best QB's in the league; he will have a great year. Note -- I have to say all this regardless, but it's nice to actually believe it.

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 13, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Cooley's post as a whole was great.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 13, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Really? Cool, Alex!

Of course, once it hits the NFL, you'll have the obligatory charges of tampering & fixing.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 13, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

And 4th - I'm glad HE believes it. Now can he make ME believe it!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 13, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

beeps aparently

Posted by: alex35332 | July 13, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

beeps aparently

Posted by: alex35332 | July 13, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Expensive lawyers and a donation to 119 Frontline. Next he will have a donation sticker on his car to try to bribe the cops next time he gets pulled over in Dulles area. Where is the NFL suspension how many people have to get hurt by this guy's anger and drinking.

Posted by: jercha | July 14, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

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