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Haynesworth to skip Redskins voluntary workouts, attend mandatory sessions

Veteran defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth plans to report to the Redskins' mandatory offseason workouts, but probably will not attend voluntary sessions, two people in the organization with knowledge of the situation said Wednesday.

Haynesworth informed the sources, who requested anonymity because of Haynesworth's poor relationship with the new front office and coaching staff, that he would return to Redskins Park for mandatory workouts under the terms of the league's collective bargaining agreement. Haynesworth, whom the Redskins have attempted to trade, also has privately told friends he does not want to become a distraction because of his impasse with coaches about their plans to use him as a nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 defensive scheme.

But Haynesworth also does not intend to spend more time at the team's training complex than he must, people with knowledge of the situation said.


The Redskins would prefer to trade Haynesworth before the three-day NFL draft that begins April 22, and ideally hope to have him off the roster before their first voluntary three-day minicamp begins April 16.

Of course, the possibility exists that Haynesworth will remain with Washington and be required to play a position that he has said he has no desire to play.

Although it is highly doubtful Haynesworth would attend the non-mandatory event this month, having the two-time all-pro still in the organization during the minicamp could present an uncomfortable situation for the Redskins. Coach Mike Shanahan and defensive coordinator Jim Haslett undoubtedly would face questions about the absence of Haynesworth, who also has raised Shanahan's ire with his decision to train on his own instead of participate in Washington's voluntary offseason conditioning program at Redskins Park.

The Redskins' second voluntary minicamp is scheduled for May 7-9. Haynesworth also could skip that one without facing potential disciplinary action. The team's third three-day minicamp in June is mandatory. Haynesworth would have to report to that one.

The Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans -- Haynesworth's former team -- are considered his most likely destinations if he is traded, according to two people with knowledge of the Redskins' efforts to end their relationship with Haynesworth. But the Redskins have already paid Haynesworth $32 million in the first 14 months of a contract he signed in February 2009, including a $21 million bonus on April 1 that was believed to be the largest single check written to one player in NFL history.

It is believed the Redskins hope to have Haynesworth pay back some of the recent bonus he received in an attempt to persuade them to complete a trade, which Haynesworth apparently would not be opposed to as long as Shanahan remains committed to him being a nose tackle. Haynesworth's base salaries of $3.6 million this season and $5.4 million in 2011 also are guaranteed as part of the record $100 million deal -- which included a then-record $41 million in guaranteed money - he signed with the team as a free agent last year.

Haynesworth has a non-guaranteed base salary of $6.7 million in 2012, so the average of the contract in the next three years is a little more than $5.23 million. That figure is relatively low for someone who was the league's premier defensive player during the 2007-08 seasons.

While clashing last season with former Redskins defensive coordinator Greg Blache, Haynesworth confided in friends he missed working in Tennessee's aggressive scheme under defensive line coach Jim Washburn, with whom he has a good relationship. With the Titans, Haynesworth had great freedom to rush the quarterback, which helped him record 14.5 sacks combined during the 2007-08 seasons -- an eye-opening total for an interior lineman who often faced double-teams. Haynesworth also enjoyed playing under Detroit Coach Jim Schwartz, who formerly was the Titans' defensive coordinator.

By Jason Reid  |  April 7, 2010; 11:33 AM ET
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IRREGARDLESS!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

IRREGARDLESS!

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

what an amazing waste of 100 million dollars. He's like the FEMA of Redskins Park.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

This is just super. I thought shenanigans like this would be avoided when we traded our inept front office for a more... ept, I guess, front office.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 7, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Irrigateless....

I'm thirsty.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 7, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Re: Butterworth, what's up with this ESPN story claiming that the 'Skins are NOT trying to trade him at all?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5062920

Is that report the product of deliberate obfuscation on the part of 'Skins management?

Whatfor!

Posted by: hithere1 | April 7, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Seems like the Skins are intent to trade AH. Too bad. I really was looking forward to see him utilized in this Haslett hybrid defense.

Posted by: TWISI | April 7, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

mistamayor

"Bulger is a shadow of his former self.. I would rather have JC than Bulger."

This point alone begs for a thread that's an analysis of possible JC landing spots, and what might the best return for us might be.

Already, we know he might be of value to the raiders, bills, panthers, vikings, rams, and anyone else needing a vet to back up an establish starter.

Is Campbell worth a low 3rd, 4th or 5th rounder?

I'd say a low 3rd is desired, but a 4th rounder more likely.

And as to where?: Campbell would look fine in Carolina fighting with M Moore for a starting spot.

Also, he's an upgrade over T Jackson or S Rosenfels in Minn.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 7, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Just another leftover mistake from Vinnie

Posted by: rmcpks73 | April 7, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

4th, you think a few degrees make you smart?

You still a dumb bama, young...

Posted by: RedDMV | April 7, 2010 11:48 AM

That's Cool....cuz I'm a always be me no matter what.....Reds, I ain't even gonna put myself out there, but the things I done accomplished with the past I done had....g'yeah.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

This is exactly my frustration with the McNabb move.

Yesterday people were killing me for being an "unbeliever" and a "doubter" in McNabb's skills.

My frustration had nothing to do with McNabb himself, but with what this trade means in terms of the direction of the team vis-a-vis a supposed great "plan" that Shallen supposedly had in place for this team.

It just kind of feels like we're (once again) making it up as we go along, grasping for that "one" player that will suddenly put is contention for a championship...

Posted by: p1funk | April 7, 2010 11:52 AM

I feel your pain. But for me, I'm holding off on loving or hating the McNabb deal until its over ... and its not over until we learn the fate of Jason Campbell. At a minimum, the deal has to show some respect for Campbell, esp. in terms of compensation on the trade.

What is killing me is Bulger's availability, which undoubtedly threw a wrench in some deal in the offing on Campbell. The reason its kiling me is because now I have to wait ... the suspense is killing me ... I hope it lasts.

Posted by: dcsween | April 7, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Aw, for fuc_s sake!

Just TRADE him already and get it over with.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 7, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

But the Redskins have already paid Haynesworth $32 million in the first 14 months of a contract he signed in February 2009, including a $21 million bonus on April 1 that was believed to be the largest single check written to one player in NFL history.

By Jason Reid | April 7, 2010; 11:33 AM ET

I could see the Redskins attorneys suing Vinny to try to recover some of the $32 million.

Posted by: League-Source | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Re: Butterworth, what's up with this ESPN story claiming that the 'Skins are NOT trying to trade him at all?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5062920

Is that report the product of deliberate obfuscation on the part of 'Skins management?

Whatfor!

Posted by: hithere1 | April 7, 2010 11:53 AM

Read Florio's take on this, it makes sense. Its a squeeze play to get Haynesworth to kick back some of the $21M he received last Thursday to make the trade easier to swallow ... or he can keep it and accept that threat that he's going to have to play nose tackle.

Posted by: dcsween | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

And as to where?: Campbell would look fine in Carolina fighting with M Moore for a starting spot.

Also, he's an upgrade over T Jackson or S Rosenfels in Minn.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 7, 2010 11:55 AM
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hang on to JC up until the October trading deadline. His value will only rise when QB Starters and Backups begin to go on the IR.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I ain't even gonna put myself out there, but the things I done accomplished with the past I done had....g'yeah.....

Posted by: 4thFloor


You mean overcoming that bed-wetting problem when you were 16?

My bad pimp, but you know how I do...

Posted by: RedDMV | April 7, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

**Raise your hand if you are already bored with the Haynesworth BAby ish**

I'd take more JAson Campbell posts than this baby pandering stuff.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Re: Butterworth, what's up with this ESPN story claiming that the 'Skins are NOT trying to trade him at all?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5062920

Is that report the product of deliberate obfuscation on the part of 'Skins management?

Whatfor!

Posted by: hithere1 | April 7, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse


No. You go with the Schefter report. Period. He's a real insider with real inside access who breaks real news.

JReid is continuing to stoke the fire set by his buddy jason LaCanfora - who knows nothing and is a rumor-monger on the level of Mike Florio.

For Reid to run with LaCanfora on this is a stupid move.

This report says nothing that we didn't already know - AH is going to work out on his own and he enjoyed playing in an attack-oriented defense like the one in Tennessee.

And then in glides over a couple of things that everyone conveniently likes to ignore - that AH does not want to be a distraction even though he's not comfortable at NT in a 3-4 (Why would he be? He's NEVER played the position.)

He shouldn't be traded for not attending non-mandatory workouts. If he shuld, then we shuold have gotten rid of London Fletcher, LL30 and ST21 when they skipped some voluntary workouts to train on their own.

Posted by: p1funk | April 7, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I could see the Redskins attorneys suing Vinny to try to recover some of the $32 million.

Posted by: League-Source | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM

This wasn't on Vinny, this was The Owner. The idea was to get Haynesworth as soon as he became available without any dickering around with any other team. They called to ask Hayneworth's opening position and that was the deal. No time wasted. No competition or dickering or bargaining with the agent against other teams.

Posted by: dcsween | April 7, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I could see the Redskins attorneys suing Vinny to try to recover some of the $32 million.

Posted by: League-Source | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM
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vinny probably has to call ahead to the Redskins Park receptionist to confirm that Allen and Shanahan are not in.. before he can show his "AH" face at the Park for his daily racquetball game with Dan.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

including a $21 million bonus on April 1 that was believed to be the largest single check written to one player in NFL history.

By Jason Reid | April 7, 2010; 11:33 AM ET

Peyton Manning.

35.4 Mil Roster Bonus. Gogle is helpful.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

hang on to JC up until the October trading deadline. His value will only rise when QB Starters and Backups begin to go on the IR.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM

The problem with that is if JC is the second best QB on the team based on the preseason camp and games, does it make sense to weaken the most important position on the team. Particularly since McNabb has been injured at some point of the last few seasons. If they don't plan to keep JC until next offseason, better to get rid of him before camp.

Posted by: TWISI | April 7, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Unreregardless, if AH gets 'gruntled', I still think he helps this team.

Posted by: 4-12 | April 7, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Gogle is helpful.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse


Beer gogles?

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 7, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

hang on to JC up until the October trading deadline. His value will only rise when QB Starters and Backups begin to go on the IR.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse
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With our luck, though, it will be McNabb who gets crunched

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 7, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

including a $21 million bonus on April 1 that was believed to be the largest single check written to one player in NFL history.

By Jason Reid | April 7, 2010; 11:33 AM ET

Peyton Manning.

35.4 Mil Roster Bonus. Gogle is helpful.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse


"single check" playa

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 7, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Disgruntledness.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 7, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I could see the Redskins attorneys suing Vinny to try to recover some of the $32 million.

Posted by: League-Source | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM

This wasn't on Vinny, this was The Owner.

Posted by: dcsween | April 7, 2010 12:05 PM

That's irrelevantgardless. I mean, it doesn't matter. A suit's a suit. Redskins sue ticket holders, why not Vinny? He made the call. He should have protected the owner from his dark impulses. What was Vinny's job, anyway?

Posted by: League-Source | April 7, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert you are ridiculous.

Posted by: MadeRED | April 7, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

And the pissing contest continues!

Posted by: stwasm | April 7, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Nate, i believe its disirinept.

No wait, that would be back to ept.

Its disirineptless.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 7, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

gruntled = undisgruntled

Posted by: 4-12 | April 7, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

hang on to JC up until the October trading deadline. His value will only rise when QB Starters and Backups begin to go on the IR.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM

The problem with that is if JC is the second best QB on the team based on the preseason camp and games, does it make sense to weaken the most important position on the team. Particularly since McNabb has been injured at some point of the last few seasons. If they don't plan to keep JC until next offseason, better to get rid of him before camp.

Posted by: TWISI | April 7, 2010 12:07 PM
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no JC bashing.. but, if Shanahan is informing JC's agent to seek a trade, I would say Rex is the backup to DM.
Shanny did say JC was welcomed to stay.. but I would guess that is with the same "Oct trading deadline" strategy in mind.... Fleece a desperate team that has lost its Starting QB in the first 5 weeks of the season. Much like Miami did to Vinny/Dan in the Jason Taylor deal.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

fun to watch in the 70% of the plays he is on the field but man what a baby.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 7, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

No. You go with the Schefter report. Period. He's a real insider with real inside access who breaks real news.

Posted by: p1funk | April 7, 2010 12:04 PM


So is John Clayton. And he says he's on the trading block.

Shefter is one of the best (by default, really), but he lost a lot of cred with me by spouting that assinine "Art Monk doesn't have a signature catch" crap. Clayton is a complete eyesore, but if I have to choose who I believe more, I'd go with Clayton.

Plus if you read the PFT post from earlier, you'd know that Shefter is basically in Shanny's pocket and will say stuff like this to help him out. Not saying that's the case, but you've gotta wonder...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 7, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, dcsween!

Posted by: hithere1 | April 7, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is the poster child for the last ten years of Vinny and Danny.

Posted by: 1of9000 | April 7, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

First albert has to go no matter the cost, secondly if you are listening to anyone from espn then there's your problem there is so much in fighting right now you can not go off what they say here's my take if glazer doesn't come out with it then i will believe it when i see it. espn brought shefter in for a reason they couldn't keep losing out to glazer so that's who you listen to glazer, schefter, and the jasons.

Posted by: ddawg | April 7, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

35.4 Mil Roster Bonus. Gogle is helpful.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 7, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse
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Neither gogle nor google indicate that that was paid out in one check. Without a source, I'm afraid we have to rule this inconclusive evidence.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 7, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse


So is John Clayton. And he says he's on the trading block.

Shefter is one of the best (by default, really), but he lost a lot of cred with me by spouting that assinine "Art Monk doesn't have a signature catch" crap. Clayton is a complete eyesore, but if I have to choose who I believe more, I'd go with Clayton.

Plus if you read the PFT post from earlier, you'd know that Shefter is basically in Shanny's pocket and will say stuff like this to help him out. Not saying that's the case, but you've gotta wonder...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 7, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse


Opinions on Art Monk aside - when it comes to real-time insider information, you go with Schefter and Glazer.

Everyone else is a squirrel trying to get a nut.

With Florio and LaCanfora being the scrawny sickly squirrels that natural selection is going to eliminate...

Posted by: p1funk | April 7, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

fun to watch in the 70% of the plays he is on the field but man what a baby.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 7, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

What sticks out to me is him going down in the Lions game and I'm thinking he just tore every collateral ligament in his knee... only to watch him return the next play.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 7, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

First albert has to go no matter the cost,


Posted by: ddawg | April 7, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse


Why?

Posted by: p1funk | April 7, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

It's the offseason. Don't believe anything. This is just a reporter beating this into the ground. He feels challenged by Schfeter and wants to speak.

Posted by: ryan_conaway | April 7, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

There are these funny things called contracts, which define what is and is not required by all parties, including management and the players. Management loves to talk about contractual requirements and "its business" whenever they are called out on treating players poorly. Like promising Haynesworth he wouldn't be playing NT when he signed with us, and now renegging on that promise. Shannahan may be the HC, but he has limits on his authority to control his players lives. I support Haynesworth completely on this.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 7, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

All the talk is about Haynesworth, but wasn't there a rumor that Landry was also in the mix? I could see Baltimore willing since Landry's brother is already there, but they don't really need a safety. What about Denver? Landry for Marshall?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 7, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

What sticks out to me is him going down in the Lions game and I'm thinking he just tore every collateral ligament in his knee... only to watch him return the next play.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 7, 2010 12:22 PM
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fat is very flexible.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

"What sticks out to me is him going down in the Lions game and I'm thinking he just tore every collateral ligament in his knee... only to watch him return the next play."


What gets me is that he seemed totally fit and ready to got whenever I tuned in to watch a titans' game.

This is why the lack of conditioning thingy was such a shock last Fall.

I have a sense thing'll improve this upcoming season.

Why?: having a quarterback with a strong presence like McNabb on your roster will make any real player step up at the chance of going deep in the playoffs.

In fact, we might suddenly see a lot of dudes amp up there games now that a true lead dog is in the house.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 7, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:15 PM

I understand what you're saying, and maybe I'm over thinking it. However, if JC is on the team, he will have to participate in training camp and he could very well beat out Grossman. Again, it doesn't mean that Shanny has to make JC #2, but I don't know what kind of message that would send to the..follow me? Shanny said he wants to put the best team together..does that exclude JC if he's better than Grossman. IMO trade before training camp, or be willing to hold onto him for the entire season if circumstances dictate that.

Posted by: TWISI | April 7, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Why?

Posted by: p1funk | April 7, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse
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I, too am insenegligent about the irrelevantaneous facts presented by the original poster.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 7, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse


This is just super. I thought shenanigans like this would be avoided when we traded our inept front office for a more... ept, I guess, front office.

Posted by: NateinthePDX

This one's not on Allen, though, it's on Vinnie. The $100Mil contract is what is ineptifying Allen and Shanny now and turning Haynesworth's head into the Goodyear blimp. It should have been pre-epted when Vinnie was placed orbit. Pop that blimp. (yeah) Pop that blimp.

Posted by: SonofNero | April 7, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 7, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

good point Moe.. Agreed!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 7, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The Glazezzzzzzzz

Posted by: RedDMV | April 7, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

RE: COLT MCCOY OF TEXAS NOT BECOMING A REDSKIN

Really??!!

Irregardless of the Texas Pipeline from Kyle who was a football player there in the early 2000s???

Posted by: 4thFloor

MIKE Shanahan got his Super Bowls with a QB with a gun. Why would he settle for a Noodle Arm?

Posted by: TheCork | April 7, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

fat is very flexible.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse
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Well played. Very well played.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 7, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Opinions on Art Monk aside - when it comes to real-time insider information, you go with Schefter and Glazer.

Everyone else is a squirrel trying to get a nut.

With Florio and LaCanfora being the scrawny sickly squirrels that natural selection is going to eliminate...

Posted by: p1funk | April 7, 2010 12:22 PM


Look, you can trust who you want on this...bottom line is Shefter is the only NOT saying that the Skins are shopping Haynesworth. If one of his own colleagues won't get on board with that (btw, that colleague happens to be a guy with more time and credibility in this business than Shefter and Glazer COMBINED) it should tell you something.

Again...not saying Shefter and Glazer aren't good at what they do, but they don't exactly bat 1.000.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 7, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I think it is time to bite the bullet and ship him out. Of course he wants to free-lance and pick up sacks, that is what he and is agent base his big salary on. He reminds me of a 7 ft big man who only wants to shoot 3's. in basketball. You need your Bigs clogging the middle, doing the dirty work in both sports. If I recall he missed both Dallas games and a majority of the NFC east matchups. Those very games are the reason we acquired him I thought.

Posted by: DIEUDALLASDOGSDIE | April 7, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Careful what you ask for. A Haynesworth trade to Detroit or Tampa Bay would fill their need for a D lineman. Okung their next best pick? Now we're double screwed.

Posted by: bones21 | April 7, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Trade his fat a$$ to the Toronto Argonauts!!!

Posted by: cys868 | April 7, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The only player that has not stepped up and arrived at these workout's is the 100 million dollar player. The same guy that is paid 100 million and is not in shape for last season. This man is not a man. He is a shell of a man. He was tested by God with amazing talent and has failed as a person. He needs to go asap to show the rest of the team that they are more important then him because they care and have self respect.

He needs to go and it cannot happen fast enough. What a sad person he is to be paid so much and is unwilling to work for it. While there are teachers making 30k a year he is too lazy to show up making all that money.

It's beyond pathetic

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 7, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

There are these funny things called contracts, which define what is and is not required by all parties, including management and the players. Management loves to talk about contractual requirements and "its business" whenever they are called out on treating players poorly. Like promising Haynesworth he wouldn't be playing NT when he signed with us, and now renegging on that promise. Shannahan may be the HC, but he has limits on his authority to control his players lives. I support Haynesworth completely on this.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 7, 2010 12:25 PM
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He had an agent who negotiated on his behalf and ensured that every thing AH wanted was guaranteed in the wording of the contract. Anyone who has ever signed a contract knows that if it isn't written down, then you cannot assume it is part of the deal. So, if he didn't have it specifically worded in his contract that he was to play only tackle in a 4-3 defense, then it wasn't part of the deal. Hey, he got a monstrous amount of money to play a game. If he is whining about that, then I don't feel sorry for him.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 7, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Remember how everyone thought Tiki Barber was this nice high character guy?

Tiki is a hypocritical assbag.

I never cared for that guy.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 7, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

You reap what you sow,SNYDERATTO!!! 90% of the Redskins Nation fans said this was a Baaaaad move last year, and it came out to be true..UHGAIN! The NFL needs to can the 'voluntary' label, and just call all practices and sessions as MANDATORY

Posted by: wagenstill | April 7, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Not a big fan of trading Albert, despite it all. Yeah he was out of shape, but the Skins played him too many plays per game. He can do about 60% of the snaps. There were games he was 70% and more, if I recall correctly. He stops being effective when he's out there too much.

You want Albert on the field for impact situations. The first plays of a drive to try to get a 3 and out. 3rd and 4th downs. Red zone.

But, if we must trade him ... here's one option.

Albert for Nnamdi.

The Raiders cut Nnamdi a big check before he leaves Oakland, much as we did Albert.

Our DL would take a huge hit, but our secondary would be 80% fixed.

Only hitch ... Shanahan would need to speak with Al Davis. They hate each other. With a passion. Davis owes Shanny money from Shanny's lawsuit against him. Shanny collects when Davis dies. That kind of hate.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 7, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Again...not saying Shefter and Glazer aren't good at what they do, but they don't exactly bat 1.000.

Posted by: brownwood26

Glazer was on target with the McNabb trade thingy - and I thought he had totally lost it!

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 7, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Re: Butterworth, what's up with this ESPN story claiming that the 'Skins are NOT trying to trade him at all?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5062920

Is that report the product of deliberate obfuscation on the part of 'Skins management?

Whatfor!

Posted by: hithere1 | April 7, 2010 11:53 AM

Read Florio's take on this, it makes sense. Its a squeeze play to get Haynesworth to kick back some of the $21M he received last Thursday to make the trade easier to swallow ... or he can keep it and accept that threat that he's going to have to play nose tackle.

Posted by: dcsween | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Since at least 40% of what PFT posts is total BS, I wouldn't put too much stock in what Florio says. For one thing, I'm not even sure he CAN give any of the money back under the current CBA. My take on it is that the 'Skins are trying to tell the other teams that "yes, he's available, but we're not going to give him away."

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 7, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

The only questions at this point are (a) how much Haynesworth will give back of the $21M to be traded and (b) what the Skins get back in terms of compensation from either Tennessee or Detroit. I seriously doubt either of them would give up a No. 1 pick but maybe a No. 2 this and a No. 4 next year to replace the picks given up for McNabb.

Everyone involved wants Haynesworth to be playing elsewhere which is why he isn't reporting for the non-voluntary workouts. Of course the Redskins want him gone by April 15th, but the real deadline is prior to the draft so we can get some picks to use. Schefter is a crony of Shanny, who obviously has told him to say that Haynesworth isn't on the trading block so that he doesn't lose value. The cat is out of the bag that Skins are trying to move him - the question is who will take him off of our hands and what we'll get in return.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 7, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

He had an agent who negotiated on his behalf and ensured that every thing AH wanted was guaranteed in the wording of the contract. Anyone who has ever signed a contract knows that if it isn't written down, then you cannot assume it is part of the deal. So, if he didn't have it specifically worded in his contract that he was to play only tackle in a 4-3 defense, then it wasn't part of the deal. Hey, he got a monstrous amount of money to play a game. If he is whining about that, then I don't feel sorry for him.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 7, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

VOLUNTARY. We should not be surprised that AH well knows what this word means. He is, afterall, a Volunteer.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 7, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"hang on to JC up until the October trading deadline. His value will only rise when QB Starters and Backups begin to go on the IR.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM"

When was the last time you've seen a QB dealt mid-season?

Not going to happen. Teams need QBs in the offseason because a QB is worthless unless he knows the playbook -- let alone how the plays operate on the field. You don't learn the playbook by looking at it for the first time in week 5.

The moment training camp starts, JC's trade value will begin to fall. By the time the season starts, he'll be worth nothing to other teams.

Posted by: psps23 | April 7, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Since at least 40% of what PFT posts is total BS, I wouldn't put too much stock in what Florio says. For one thing, I'm not even sure he CAN give any of the money back under the current CBA. My take on it is that the 'Skins are trying to tell the other teams that "yes, he's available, but we're not going to give him away."

Posted by: rbpalmer

If the Skins trade Albert, part of the deal would be based on Albert being cheap. So the Skins could trade Albert for cash + picks. In essence, the trading partner is picking up the 'give back'. Which makes the most sense.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 7, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"Now we're double screwed."

Despite your complaints, mrsmoe says this is not a bad thing.

Provided the money is right, of course.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 7, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

no JC bashing.. but, if Shanahan is informing JC's agent to seek a trade, I would say Rex is the backup to DM.
Shanny did say JC was welcomed to stay.. but I would guess that is with the same "Oct trading deadline" strategy in mind.... Fleece a desperate team that has lost its Starting QB in the first 5 weeks of the season. Much like Miami did to Vinny/Dan in the Jason Taylor deal.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:15 PM
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I understand what you're saying, and maybe I'm over thinking it. However, if JC is on the team, he will have to participate in training camp and he could very well beat out Grossman. Again, it doesn't mean that Shanny has to make JC #2, but I don't know what kind of message that would send to the..follow me? Shanny said he wants to put the best team together..does that exclude JC if he's better than Grossman. IMO trade before training camp, or be willing to hold onto him for the entire season if circumstances dictate that.

Posted by: TWISI | April 7, 2010 12:30 PM
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good points... and well thought out.. TWIZ

Actually, I just want to fleece some cracker as-s owner/GM like we've been fleeced for the past 10 years.. It would just make me feel really good deep down inside.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 7, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

What about Denver? Landry for Marshall?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 7, 2010 12:26 PM

I was thinking the same thing. I'd prefer to see LL play strong safety full time but if they're intent on trading him Marshall could make sense. I'm not a big fan of Marshall's act but there's no denying he's a dominant WR. We'd probably have the makings for a dominating front court in our WR corp if nothing else. Three 6'4" guys, 1 at 6'2" and Moss could be the point.

Posted by: skinswest | April 7, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Not coming to voluntary workouts oh no...wait that's right its the first week in April.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 7, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Not going to happen. Teams need QBs in the offseason because a QB is worthless unless he knows the playbook -- let alone how the plays operate on the field. You don't learn the playbook by looking at it for the first time in week 5.

The moment training camp starts, JC's trade value will begin to fall. By the time the season starts, he'll be worth nothing to other teams.

Posted by: psps23

Hasn't Campbell learned most of the playbooks in the league by now?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 7, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like this is the noise being made to cover up behind-the-scenes talk about just how much Alberto Fatburger will give back to buy himself out of the contract with the Skins. I'm figuring as big of a baby Alberto seems to be, he's been harranguing his agent hither and yon to find him a way out of Washington, tout-suite.

As much as Alberto was a joy to see (when he was on the field, upright and running, of course), I find myself worried more about the fat men we need to put on the offensive line than I am with those on the defensive side, right now.

Posted by: Anonynonandon | April 7, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Hasn't Campbell learned most of the playbooks in the league by now?

Posted by: zcezcest1

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Good point. If there's a QB that could make it happen, Campbell is probably that guy.

Posted by: psps23 | April 7, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 7, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 7, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

SonofNero, I wasn't talking about the "original sin" of signing Albert to the giant contract -- which I agree is on Vinny and Danny both -- I was talking about the current shenanigans, this p!ssing contest between Shanny and Albert.

It just seems incredibly stupid to consider jettisoning your best defensive player, and it seems incredibly stupid to (apparently) deliberately alienate your best defensive player.

What I'm saying is, I got over my disgust that we signed "the guy who stomped on another player's bare face with his metal cleat", and I made peace with it and tried to appreciate him for the player he is. And now I'm watching all this stupid ugliness erupt between him and the new leadership team.

Ah hell, I dunno...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 7, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

As for AH, just tell him we're in a 4/3. It's just that DE Orakpo will stand up sometimes and drop into coverage. He wouldn't be the first DE to drop into coverage.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 7, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Adam schefter is reporting his source said the skins will not trade A. Haynesworth. He does his job ten times better than J. Reid. Looks like the big fella is not going to go anywhere. Sounds like J. Reid hate Haynesworth for the same reasons LaConfora hates Portis.

Posted by: Michael_ASU | April 7, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

32 million in the first 14 months as a Redskin. Excuse me, I think I'm going to vomit. Get this malcontent outta here!

Posted by: joeboggs | April 7, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.

Posted by: abxinc | April 7, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

The ghost of vinny still haunts the Redskins. Get this jerk out of here.

Posted by: jmy999 | April 7, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

All of this fuss over VOLUNTARY workouts? Who cares. If he misses the mandatory camp in June and shows up out of shape again, that would be a story.

Posted by: dcwun | April 7, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

This is ridiculous. The same people here criticizing Fat Albert for skipping voluntary workouts are the same ones who supported Portis, Sean Taylor and a bunch of ex-Miami Hurricanes for skipping voluntary workouts here to work out down in South Florida, saying "THEY'RE VOLUNTARY". What a double standard, and what a way to support $nyder and his wishes. You would have made good soldiers in Germany in the 1930's.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | April 7, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I could see the Redskins attorneys suing Vinny to try to recover some of the $32 million.

Posted by: League-Source | April 7, 2010 12:01 PM

This wasn't on Vinny, this was The Owner. The idea was to get Haynesworth as soon as he became available without any dickering around with any other team. They called to ask Hayneworth's opening position and that was the deal. No time wasted. No competition or dickering or bargaining with the agent against other teams.

Posted by: dcsween | April 7, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Keep in mind the skins were not the highest bidder. Tampa Bay actually offered more guranteed dough. I want to say it was around $46M guranteed but he thought skins had the more accomodating defense

Posted by: overzealous08 | April 7, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I, for one don't give a crap about how much Fat Albert has been compensated already. Danny Boy deserves to lose that money for a failed investment listening to his henchman "Rat boy" Cerrato.

I commend Shanahan and Allen for showing that no player is above the team, about dang time that these primadonnas that get millions and b*tch around like the world still owes them something and stop working hard for it gets a free pass to everything.

I love the fact that Donovan McNabb by some luck happen to now be wearing burgundy and gold and will lead this "boys" to turn them into MEN!

trade FAT ALBERT, he's cancer on this team. while there at it, trade Landry too and get those picks back

Posted by: datruth21 | April 7, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION ALL REDSKINS INSIDER READERS:

If you sincerely believe the Redskins will trade Albert Haynesworth this off season, I highly recommend you quit reading this blog immediately and check yourself straight into your closest mental hospital for an evaluation: there is a strong possibility you are suffering from dementia.

That is all, carry on.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 7, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

It's only money, Danny can easily reload his ATM from sales of the #5 jersey.

Seriously, you pay a guy $41 mil in the first 15 months of a contract and wonder why he has a KMA attitude?

Posted by: Natmeister | April 7, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm really surprised that Arizona hasn't come forward as one of the teams interested in Campbell. Are they that confident in Leinhart? I wouldn't be.

Posted by: withoutanet | April 7, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

[slightly modified version from actual Fat Albert episode]:

Dumb Donald: "Hey Fat Albert, when you join our school band, what instrument are you going to play?"
Fat Albert: "While I'm getting carted off the field during a game, I'll be playing the shoe strings!" "That's if I can reach my shoes without my stomach getting in the way!"

Posted by: terptek | April 7, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is such a waste and definitely needs to go. The Titans didn't resign him, think about it, they knew the way he was.

Posted by: ladyredskins | April 7, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Giants fan, and I believe when all is said and done, Orakpo will go down as this generation's (original) LT. 4-3, 3-4 defense, doesn't matter - Orakpo will float from the 4 slot back into coverage, big deal. If Fat Man gets himself into shape (he better, or he'll be carted off in practice after shanny breaks him), the front will be unpredictable and wreak havoc on opposing QBs...jmho

Posted by: terptek | April 7, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Drama, intrigue, pathos!!! The Redskins serial soap opera continues! The faces may change the plot is the same ...
Its hard to win at all under those circumstances.

Posted by: periculum | April 7, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I would advise not believing anything that anyone connected with the NFL says in the days leading up to the draft. Teams are trying to disguise their draft intentions and pump up player values, and they feed misinformation to reporters. Reporters want to maintain their access and probably won't dig too hard and "upset the apple cart."

What happens will happen when it happens.

Posted by: acoberst1 | April 7, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Keep in mind the skins were not the highest bidder. Tampa Bay actually offered more guranteed dough. I want to say it was around $46M guranteed but he thought skins had the more accomodating defense

Posted by: overzealous08

Actually just the opposite. Tampa Bay offered him more. The Redskins offered more guaranteed bonus money right up front.

Posted by: periculum | April 7, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Keep in mind the skins were not the highest bidder. Tampa Bay actually offered more guranteed dough. I want to say it was around $46M guranteed but he thought skins had the more accomodating defense

Posted by: overzealous08

Actually just the opposite. Tampa Bay offered him more. The Redskins offered more guaranteed bonus money right up front.

Posted by: periculum | April 7, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected. We(Danny) are still the idiots for paying him most of that money in the 1st 2 years. Unbelievable!

Posted by: overzealous08 | April 7, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Wonder what compensation the Skins are seeking for Haynesworth? Would the Colts 2nd round pick be adequate? Not that they've offered it. Haynesworth collapsing the pocket for Freeney and Mathis would be something to see.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 7, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to see him leave - can't take directions from a coach, can't get along with his teammates, can't play an entire season, can't play an entire game - nothing more than overpriced egotistical whinning dirtbag - this has got to go down as perhaps the biggest boondoggle Snyder and Cerrato ever pulled off - Jason Taylor was a bad one, but at least he could get along with his teammates and had a smidgeon of class, not one of any of their other 'bust signings has ever been such a classless galoot - and quite frankly, we've seen our share of big time busts (Deion Sanders, Jeff George, Jason Taylor, Adam Arculetta,and so and so on) - but Haynesworth is probably the biggest wash out. Yes - he can play, but only on his own terms - if he had his way, we would probably be called the Haynesworth Redskins - yeah...it's ALL about you Albert. Hit the road - we won't miss you

Posted by: whelms1 | April 7, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Waaa waaa waaa! But I don't wanna play nose tackle! And you can't make me! I am going to go in the corner and suck my thumb and pout!

Effin crybaby. I bet AH wasn't cryin while he took his fat a$$ to the bank to deposit his $21M check. AH stands for A-Hole!

Posted by: Monk81_Green28 | April 7, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

You have to keep him. He was just paid 21 million last week. Make him stick around and earn it. The only way you give him away is for a low 1st rounder or high second rounder...like the one we just gave up for a QB that will be serviceable for 3 years TOPS.

Posted by: INIOWA | April 7, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Fine - If Albert does not want to participate and if the skins can't trade him, put him to work as a parking attendant at FedEx, he's more than qualified and he can also eat all of the leftovers.

Posted by: boricuabopper | April 7, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Jason never seemed to have the FIRE to excite his teammates. He is to BLAND his leadership skills aren't really to good?
McNabb should be packaged and sent to L.A.for the rights to BRADFORD. same old same old. They don't know how to build a team from the draft---Just got to have the big (OLD)name Player. It will take them 3 years to build a O-Line to protect MnNabb and by that time he'll be over the Hill.---Same old snyder what an ASS.

Posted by: duckyjimpond | April 7, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Jason never seemed to have the FIRE to excite his teammates. He is to BLAND his leadership skills aren't really to good?
McNabb should be packaged and sent to L.A.for the rights to BRADFORD. same old same old. They don't know how to build a team from the draft---Just got to have the big (OLD)name Player. It will take them 3 years to build a O-Line to protect MnNabb and by that time he'll be over the Hill.---Same old snyder what an ASS.

Posted by: duckyjimpond | April 7, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Jason never seemed to have the FIRE to excite his teammates. He is to BLAND his leadership skills aren't really to good?
McNabb should be packaged and sent to L.A.for the rights to BRADFORD. same old same old. They don't know how to build a team from the draft---Just got to have the big (OLD)name Player. It will take them 3 years to build a O-Line to protect MnNabb and by that time he'll be over the Hill.---Same old snyder what an ASS.

Posted by: duckyjimpond | April 7, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

And the blowing up of the good ship Redskin goes on. I say let big Al stay and try and earn his money!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 7, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Why is everybody so freaked out by the money that Haynesworth got? It's not coming out of your wallet. All that's on our owner - Richie Rich. Who cares what Haynesworth was able to squeeze from him. Trade him. Don't trade him. Whatever. But please don't sound so upset about whether or not poor Dan Synder overpaid. That guy's been ruining our team since he took over. Please quit crying on his behalf.

Posted by: 2sheds | April 7, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

FAT Albert should skip a few meals - not the practices. Good Bye to another selfish "it's all about me" player.

Posted by: rvscanzani | April 7, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

If snyder and cerrato blew 21 million on haynesworth too bad for him. if snyder is dumb enough to sign a player for that kind of bonus that is his problem. this is the kind of organization those 2 imbeciles have put together for years he deserves to lose the money and I hope NEVER re-coup's it.

Posted by: wathu19 | April 7, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

You get paid that kind of money and come to "work" out of shape? Screw you! Get lost. Let Haynesworth be someone else's problem. The fans pay a lot of money so that these guys can have these multimillion dollar salaries and those cushy lifestyles with their big homes and big cars. Have some respect for the fans! Stop the crybaby stuff saying that so and so don't respect me. I don't want to play that position or work out in that gym. Respect the fans and give it 100%. I'm done with Haynesworth.

Posted by: JohnnyU2Berry | April 7, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

ship this sack of **** to anywhere. I hope he chokes on his money

Posted by: Mark99 | April 7, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: hessone | April 7, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

'I'm too busy curling these chicken flavored dumbells biiiatch...who needs Gatorade, I drink Gravyrade...'

Posted by: kahlua87 | April 7, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

If Bruce Allen drafts Okung and trades Fat Albert for anything of value, I'm ready to put up a bronzed statue of the GM.

The first move is filling a big void and the second is addition by subtraction.

I am loving it that Fat Albert does not want to play NT in Shanahan's system. Hopefully that helps get him out of DC.

Posted by: calhokie | April 7, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

if i'm albert haynesworth, i'm not giving the team one DIME. THEY made the deal; and either pay him or let him go anywhere they can find a buyer. but 'give them some money back to be traded to a team he LIKES??? who wrote that stupidazz sentence? musta been the coach or the gm. what do think all these guys are stupid. like THEY are???

Posted by: dcjazzman | April 7, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

some of you guys like grossman cuz you think he's a slinging leader. he actually is one of the weakest, inaccurate and least inspiring qb's in the leage. he's got a big mouth, but i don't think anybody on this team would follow grossman into a taxicab if they had a choice...

Posted by: dcjazzman | April 8, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

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