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Horton Won't Start Sunday (Updated)

Chris Horton said he won't be starting against the Buccaneers on Sunday at FedEx Field.

Defensive coordinator Greg Blache confirmed Horton's statement, adding that Reed Doughty, who practiced with the first team Wednesday, would replace Horton.

Blache, who said that Doughty is playing the best football of his career, added that he didn't like the play on which Horton was called for pass interference late in the loss in Detroit. Two plays later, the Lions scored for a 19-7 lead.

"Reed's actually played better the last couple of weeks," Blache said. "And Chris has struggled a little bit. He had a play last week with bad eyes; we got a big interference call. He had an incident the week before where it was not a good fit. And it's not that we're down on him, but the fact that you have a guy in Reed that's so close to him, gives him an opportunity, gives Chris a chance to catch his breath, refocus and come back strong."

By Rick Maese  |  October 1, 2009; 12:31 PM ET
 
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why?

Posted by: thepinched | October 1, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Gap and coverage responsibility blown by too much free lancing?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 1, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Horton got burned a few times. The biggest was the Pass Interference in the end zoe...a bad call but nonetheless

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Costly penalty in the loss vs Detroit?

Posted by: Masonman | October 1, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

when you lose to the Lions I'm sure you can bench the whole team.

Posted by: thepinched | October 1, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

why?

Posted by: thepinched | October 1, 2009 12:34 PM


This is actually a positive step. Reed has been playing really well. Also, if you heard Ryan O'Hallaran on the Lavar show last week, he suggested that Horton, and Landry have not been as professional as they could be. He mentioned that both would get to the park right before team meetings for example.

Posted by: TWISI | October 1, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

He's been clearly out of position a few times. I think he's a very good "nickel safety" for that three-safety look we use on passing downs, but he's not a starter. Still great value for a 7th round pick. We need a true free safety to allow Landry to play strong safety and create havoc at the line of scrimmage (see Polamalu, Troy)

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 1, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

good move, I think RD has played well so far this year, versus Horton/LL who have not....both need to stop reading their press clippings, and start to play...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else noticing how much younger this team is than it was 1 year ago.

Marcus replaced by Orakpo
Springs replaced by Hall
R Thomas replaced by Rinehart
Jansen replaced by Heyer
Kendall replaced by Dockery
J Taylor replaced by combo of Daniels + Orakpo
Thrash replaced by Kelly

Only Albert and Daniels are more than 1 year older than the guy in the same spot in 2008, but Daniels splits his time with Orakpo and Albert isn't old.

Among other positions where youth has been added since Oct 2008: 2 young RBs, 1 young WR, 1 young DE and 1 young CB

Not saying that the new youth is more talented than what was here before, but we are considerably younger.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 1, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

There's more outrage at Campbell as the defense has held things in check for a few years around here.

The offense can't say that.

And the modern NFL is geared towards offensive production, not defensive domination.

Campbell's great production against prevent defenses means nothing as he doesn't have the touchdown passes that would make it important.

You beat people by scoring when you can't stop them from scoring.

And right now, the skins can't score: and that falls on Campbell.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 1, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

You might have a point if we didn't dump 4-5 first round picks and a quarter billion dollars in free agency into our defense in the last 5 years while neglecting our offense. We are supposed to stop teams from scoring. If Campbell is supposed to be so successful then why did we draft him in the first place? He was projected as a mid second rounder. He's not supposed to be that good. We haven't made hardly any improvement on our offensive line in the last 5 years. We have a RB that is close to 2000 carries. Half of our WRs have 1 year of experience or less. Why on earth would our offense be good? We put all of our resources building a defense. The defense should be dominant. You don't dump all your resources into one side of the ball for half a decade and let them off the hook for being mediocre. If we put that effort into our offense I would expect them to be good. Even if it were a balanced effort I would blame the offense.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 1, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping Moore would get some PT. He seems like a guy, as Doc would say, that has some "dog" in him.

Wouldn't mind seeing more hits like he had on Ochocinco last year.

Maybe that would bring back the swag Los was talking about...

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | October 1, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is not the problem. But when the team is losing, our fans irrationally blame him. When we start winning, are these same fans going to give him credit though? Of course not.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 1, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse
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You have the right to know that you completely missed the point of the article.

Let me give you a tip that will help you beyond RI: Stop thinking in terms of blame and start thinking in terms of responsibility. Blame is an excuse for the intellectually lazy.

Snyder is responsible for the state of the Redskins. Period. If he does not hold his underlings accountable to their own responsibilities, that is just as much an indictment of him as it is of them.

Can he change? Can he learn? Maybe. I hope so.

A part of me sees the reality that we cut S Springs, J Jansen, P Kendall, K Campbell, J Taylor, M Washington, D Evans, J Thrash, and I think all those moves were steps in the right direct.

If someone were to say that a random team cut 8 vets, 15% of its roster, all who were respected locker room guys, I might not be surprised to hear that that team started off the season 1-2.

But if Snyder believes that we had to make those cuts to allow future growth, then that is an improvement over the year-to-year stop gap management we have been seeing. And if he understands we need to rebuild, and that the road might be a little rough during that process but he sticks to it, then you know what? The Redskins will start to win consistently, and Snyder will be responsible.

But right here, right now, Snyder is responsible for an organization that has 3 winning seasons in the last 10. And blaming others will never change that fact.

*repost cuz its that important*

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 1, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

When you lose, ish happens...

And always starts with the people making the least amount of money....

Just keep Doughty close to the LOS. HE is terrible in Pass Coverage.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 1, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Good point.

As the younger guys mature, it will get better. The question is can JC17 lead us to the promise land?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Smart. Doughty is more sound. If only we can replace Lavar, I mean Laron Landry. Always out of postion, overpursuing, can't cover, etc. Overrated.

Posted by: matthewrayman | October 1, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I still get a little twinge every time I see Ryan Clark in a Pittsburgh uni.

Posted by: LouLewis | October 1, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Wish we could bench Landry...dude needs to step up his game big time...

Posted by: mattylight | October 1, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

OF COURSE Snyder is the problem. He hired Vinny Cerrato and together they make awful personell decisions.

Posted by: matthewrayman | October 1, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I guess that's who Hall was referring to in his post-game comments...

Posted by: McMetal | October 1, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

JGray needs to insert his boot into landry's backside, and wake him up...otherwise, I suspect Landry might be next to get benched....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

The Skins drafted Laron Landry right before Adrian Peterson went to the Vikings. Who needs AP when you have CP.

Posted by: matthewrayman | October 1, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

The Skins drafted Laron Landry right before Adrian Peterson went to the Vikings. Who needs AP when you have CP.

Posted by: matthewrayman | October 1, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Landry is a strong safety. He is a hitter. Not a ball hawk. Not a cover guy. The team still gets a pass for a while on the safety situation. They should have been set for a decade with ST21/LL30.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 1, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

yeah surprisingly reeds been playing lights out when he's been on the field.... but we definitely need to draft a safety in the 2nd round this coming draft...

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 1, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

OK dcwun, I'll play your game. Let's break down 'that paragraph' even more...

You see this, and think it's good:
"With all this talent, we haven't even scratched the surface...this team could be special."
I see it, and hear the same old tired refrain.


I see this, and hear the same old tired refrain again:
"We're really cutting ourselves short and it's kind of ridiculous. If you see this team come together before it's too late...
But if we continue to play like individuals, you'll see this team fall apart and continue to go downhill."
You see this, and hear a beat reporter grinding an axe.

It's Reid's fault. It's Jasno's fault. If only everyone showed this team some love, they'd be G-G-G-G-Great!

OK, I'm off to raid dealer's drug stash. Clearly, I've lost my mind. Beginning self imposed banishment from blog...

Posted by: 4-12 | October 1, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

We put all of our resources building a defense. The defense should be dominant.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17

Nailed it.

The resources went into the defense. Virtually all the draft + big $$. It was the #4 defense in the NFL last year. OK, it wasn't quite that good because it didn't get sacks and turnovers, but it was still very good.

What got added should have moved the needle from very good to great. Even to elite.

But it hasn't. The defense has regressed despite the 'upgrades'. When a rookie QB in his 3rd game drives it 99 yards on you, it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out that the defense isn't close to meeting its expectations.

This team was designed to win with defense.

So far, our best unit has been special teams.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 1, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Doughty has been tackling MUCH better than Horton. Actually, he's been the best tackler on the team lately, save Fletcher.

I am concerned about him against the deep ball though. Yeah, I know this is not Horton's strenght either, but Doughty can get burned by faster receivers, while Horton can at least keep up. See the end of the Rams game for example. Doughty has not been tested deep lately, but I seem to remember 2 years ago the guy getting burned pretty bad.

Since we're talking about changing starters, how about Smoot starting instead of Hall? Smoot is a far better tackler and better in coverage. Shoot, he's even playing better than Rogers right now.

Posted by: WallyG3 | October 1, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

starting doughty will lead to some serious coverage disasters

Posted by: bford1kb | October 1, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

All of this misplaced anger, it's almost comical. Only 3% voted for the players being responsible for the play on the field, hard to believe so few people can see this.

Dan Snyder did not make Cambpell fumble and throw a pick in week 1. Dan Snyder did not make Mike Sellers and Devin Thomas drop TDs in week 2. Dan Snyder did not throw a 50 yard pass interference flag or pick up a legitimate facemask penalty that hurt the Skins in week 3.

Snyder is not the problem. But when the team is losing, our fans irrationally blame him. When we start winning, are these same fans going to give him credit though? Of course not.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 1, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

i'm sure danny is saying the same thing. i'm not the problem. does he ever ask himself, gee this team hasnt won much since i've owner the team? i'm the one constant (along w/vinnie for most of the time) the whole time. i wonder if i could be the problem.

besides, you logic about danny not dropping passes causing them to lose. well, under who's watch did those players get acquired. under whos watch did we trade draft picks for tj ducket and jason taylor. draft picks that could have been used to get O lineman who could have opened holes for clinton portis to score instead of having to throw to a 270 pound fullback in the red zone.

under whose watch were three pass cathers drafted in the second round who have made zero impact. under who's watch was a coach hired who cant devise a play to score on 4th and goal from the 1.

you know who, yet you will continue to pretend that he has nothing to do with it. there is nothing irrational about blaming the owner for a 10 year streak of mediocrity. the irrational part is holding the CEO of this organization blameless when his company underachieves consistently.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 1, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Doughty is and always was the better pass coverage guy. Its in the area of open field tackling and coming up to the bulldozers that he was considered less than adequate. Apparently, that has improved.

Posted by: periculum | October 1, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Makes sense. And it's not as if HOrton still won't play plenty. Reed has been playing his butt off this year, all the way back to the preseason when he was a blitzing machine.

Posted by: SkinsFanNYC | October 1, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

OK dcwun, I'll play your game. Let's break down 'that paragraph' even more...

You see this, and think it's good:
"With all this talent, we haven't even scratched the surface...this team could be special."
I see it, and hear the same old tired refrain.


I see this, and hear the same old tired refrain again:
"We're really cutting ourselves short and it's kind of ridiculous. If you see this team come together before it's too late...
But if we continue to play like individuals, you'll see this team fall apart and continue to go downhill."
You see this, and hear a beat reporter grinding an axe.

It's Reid's fault. It's Jasno's fault. If only everyone showed this team some love, they'd be G-G-G-G-Great!

OK, I'm off to raid dealer's drug stash. Clearly, I've lost my mind. Beginning self imposed banishment from blog...

Posted by: 4-12

What are you talking about? Don't take one F$$king sentence and try to make it the theme of the post. Enjoy your self imposed banishment.

Posted by: dcwun | October 1, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

As much as I want this team to draft O lineman next year, if Taylor Mays from USC is available when they pick, I wouldn't be too sad if they took him.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 1, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

To fix things all Danny has to do is rehire Gibbs as a real president. (Not as HC too). Gibbs is the best coach and HOF coach the Redskins ever had along with Vince Lombardi. Parcells is doing this for Miami. Gibbs, with a piece of the action, will care more about the Redskins than Parcells does for the Fins. Give him all football operations and management power this time. Let Gibbs hire the coaches, the GM, etc.

Posted by: periculum | October 1, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

while I applaud this move, any move, any change for that matter, part of me thinks that this will cause LL to be stationed even further away from the LOS.....possibly not even on the field....up in the 300 level of the stands.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The Skins drafted Laron Landry right before Adrian Peterson went to the Vikings. Who needs AP when you have CP.

Posted by: matthewrayman | October 1, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

That's a little hindsight bias there. AP was seen as being injury prone. That's why he was passed on by several teams. He had a dislocated shoulder, ankle sprain, and broken collar bone in 3 years of college. If he got injured that much in college how long would he last in the NFL? That was a legit concern given his running style. Keep in mind that he is also playing behind one of the best run blockers in professional football. You know the guy that let Chester Taylor rush for 169 yards in 1 game and 1216 yards in a season.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 1, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

while I applaud this move, any move, any change for that matter, part of me thinks that this will cause LL to be stationed even further away from the LOS.....possibly not even on the field....up in the 300 level of the stands.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

In that case maybe Tacos can get his autograph!

Posted by: mattylight | October 1, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Let me give you a tip that will help you beyond RI: Stop thinking in terms of blame and start thinking in terms of responsibility. Blame is an excuse for the intellectually lazy.

Snyder is responsible for the state of the Redskins. Period. If he does not hold his underlings accountable to their own responsibilities, that is just as much an indictment of him as it is of them.But right here, right now, Snyder is responsible for an organization that has 3 winning seasons in the last 10. And blaming others will never change that fact.

*repost cuz its that important*

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 1, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse


And if/when he fires the underperforming,uninspirering coach would that be him being responsible or impatiant like the media and some of you folks like to call him?


You can win with offense, but you can still win with defense today, too. All that matters is you win.

Posted by: TotallyTacos | October 1, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse


This is a line that we as fans should adopt,and not go crazy when we win an ugly game like the one against the rams,because if you all remember those are the type of games that we would lose and it would cost us the playoffs year in and year out,hell just think back to last year,and those same rams.


Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 1, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

starting doughty will lead to some serious coverage disasters

Posted by: bford1kb | October 1, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

My guess is Blache is not overly concerned about coverage issues while facing a rookie QB and an anemic offense whose primary receiving threat has been injured all year. He is probably quite concerned about the failure of his SS to make sure tackles when he is in position to make the play, and even more, he wants his SS to be "in position".

I think this benching is a two fold message:
1. Get your crap together 48
2. The rest of you, get your crap together too, and yeah, I will bench non performers.

IF you are busting your ass to make plays and be in the right spot, it has to be frustrating to see a guy who is doing neither killing your team defense concept.

Several Defensive players have alluded to this problem. Wonder how long it will be until the get really, really tired of the guy who drives the lime green monkey toting mobile.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 1, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

dl, while there is no denying the talent of Mays, spending another high draft pick on the S position would be lunacy.....too many other need areas to draft..which of course means that this is a lead pipe lock to happen......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The Dirty Thirty Chant:

O-VER-RATE-ED
Clap-Clap
Clap-Clap-Clap

(Repeat)


Landry is a strong safety. He is a hitter. Not a ball hawk. Not a cover guy. The team still gets a pass for a while on the safety situation. They should have been set for a decade with ST21/LL30.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 1, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Landry was actually a free safety in college, and the only reason he was switched to SS is 'cuz you could start ST at M&T Bank Stadium and he could still lock up a play in the backfield at FedEx Field.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 1, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Blaming makes the blamer feel better, but accountability requires some analysis followed by a plan for improvement. I imagine that's what Zorn and his staff are doing at the moment. Whether it works or not, we'll all get to see. Meanwhile, the torrent of ire from fans and media (Sally Jenkins this AM) is mostly wasted air.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 1, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse


I could not agree more with Sally's analysis regarding the systemic failure of the Redskins starting from the top down. The question becomes, what can we as fans do about it? We already boo, and we already sell our tickets to opposing fans (not that the Redskins care- see brokergate)- what is left? Personally, I think the only thing Synder understands is cash, thus a massive boycott of concessions, merchandise and tickets is required, however, I not sure we have the organization (on a fan level) to orchestrate such an undertaking. That said, if more of same keeps up, perhaps I will be proven wrong.

Posted by: HonestSkinsFan | October 1, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

What a sissy move to try to "shake things up".

Why doesn't Landry get benched? He's been crapping out back there as well.

Why doesn't Haynesworth get benched? Apparently his lack of gap control is one of the reasons why the Lions ran all over us.

Is Carlos Rogers gonna get benched for getting burned on the TD?

This move reeks. And it smacks of cowardice. Horton is a low draft pick and he's not making much $. Horton has been one of the more consistent guys on the field.

Posted by: p1funk | October 1, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Landry was actually a free safety in college, and the only reason he was switched to SS is 'cuz you could start ST at M&T Bank Stadium and he could still lock up a play in the backfield at FedEx Field.

Posted by: mattsoundworld
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Worst. Loss. Ever. I'd take him back for any player (or coach) on our roster. RIP ST

Posted by: REXskins | October 1, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

From the Times, very interesting:

Just got back from the locker room where it was revealed that Reed Doughty has replaced Chris Horton at strong safety.

Doughty was the starter last year until he missed a game with illness and then got hurt.

"Reed has actually played better the last couple weeks and Chris has struggled a little bit," defensive coordinator Greg Blache said. "[Horton] had a play with bad eyes and we got a big interference call. We had an instant last week where he wasn’t in a good fit. It’s not that we’re down on him but the fact we have a guy in Reed that is so close to him, it gives us an oppty to give him a chance and it gives Chris a chance to catch his breath and re-focus."

Blache didn't disclose any other personnel moves but hinted other changes could be happening.

Blache also said he needs to become more of a "maverick ... a riverboat gambler."

Translation: I think coach Jim Zorn had a chat with Blache this week and told him the defense needs a jolt of aggressiveness.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Landry was actually a free safety in college, and the only reason he was switched to SS is 'cuz you could start ST at M&T Bank Stadium and he could still lock up a play in the backfield at FedEx Field.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 1, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

He played both positions in college and even though he was a free safety most of the time in college he made a name for himself by playing close to the line and blowing up running backs. His contributions were sacks and tackles for a loss. He did play decent in coverage in college but that wasn't what made him famous.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 1, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Barno1k,
I think you are missing the big picture here. Nobody is saying Snyder is solely to blame. But lets boil this down

Fact 1: During the past 10 years the Redskins have not been very good.

Fact 2: During the past 10 years the only common element within the organization has been Dan Snyder.

Therefore, something has to change. If Danny Boy, DB, wants to maintain his current approach to running this team then they will never be a good team, so says history and logic. Sure once every 3 or 4 years the team will make a run and get into the playoffs but that should not be the goal.

Posted by: NFeKPo | October 1, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

This move reeks. And it smacks of cowardice. Horton is a low draft pick and he's not making much $. Horton has been one of the more consistent guys on the field.

Posted by: p1funk | October 1, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. It's the easy move to make but not the necessary one.
Maybe there is some behind the scenes stuff I don't know about Horton.

I do know one thing. Reed Doughty wouldn't have gotten called for pass interference in the Detroit game. Then again he wouldn't have been within 10 yds of the play.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 1, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

dl, while there is no denying the talent of Mays, spending another high draft pick on the S position would be lunacy.....too many other need areas to draft..which of course means that this is a lead pipe lock to happen......
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 1:06 PM

Greg, I agree with you….Mays is probably the only other player I would advocate other than an OL. Drafting him would almost be like getting 2 guys, as you could move LL back to strong safety and let Mays roam deep like ST did. It’s actually pretty scary when you look at the physical similarities and skills of Mays when comparing them to ST21. And there would have to be some quality lineman to draft in Rd 2. The scariest thing for me is that the Eagles would probably be the team with the biggest need for Mays and they could move up to get him…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 1, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Blache also said he needs to become more of a "maverick ... a riverboat gambler."

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 1:12 PM |

Amen to that. Now can Zorn follow suit?

Posted by: TWISI | October 1, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

yeah, I don't think Zorn had a chat with Blache, but I could be wrong - I think Blache realizes that this thing could go really bad, really quickly, and that his unit needs to step up their game to offset the offense's inadequecies

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 1, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: NFeKPo | October 1, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Start Kareem Moore at FS an put LL in the box

Posted by: GreatOne1 | October 1, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Haynesworth get benched? Apparently his lack of gap control is one of the reasons why the Lions ran all over us.

Posted by: p1funk
+++++++++++++++++++

The problem with our gap control disciplined defense is that it's deceivingly bad. We were #4 on Defense last year, but just like we've talked about this year, that's not really an honest representation of our D.

The "bend but don't break" gap control type of defense might get kudos for points allowed, but as we've seen it also has major drawbacks from which we are suffering. The bend allows short yardage plays to move all the way down the field, chewing up the clock and setting up a potential score. The fact that it takes so long to get down there keeps the point total low, but it also keeps our D on the field and our O off. It also results in less aggressiveness, thus less turnovers and sacks.

Enter Big Al'. He's supposed to collapse the pocket, force double teams, make our DE's better. Well the problem is he can't really do that every play while also maintaining gap control. So you've got a guy who you're letting do his thing because you realize your gap control strat isn't creating enough pressure and turnovers and force outs. But then you bust his chops for not maintaining "gap discipline"? Well I'm sorry but you can't have it both ways.

Blache is now trying to fall back on his strat from last year, but it will continue to be exploited in exactly the way I and others have described. Expect to continue seeing third downs converted against us 75% of the time.

Posted by: REXskins | October 1, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I could not agree more with Sally's analysis regarding the systemic failure of the Redskins starting from the top down. The question becomes, what can we as fans do about it? We already boo, and we already sell our tickets to opposing fans (not that the Redskins care- see brokergate)- what is left? Personally, I think the only thing Synder understands is cash, thus a massive boycott of concessions, merchandise and tickets is required, however, I not sure we have the organization (on a fan level) to orchestrate such an undertaking. That said, if more of same keeps up, perhaps I will be proven wrong.

Posted by: HonestSkinsFan | October 1, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse
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Fans will boo regardless. And they should. They are paying good money for a lousy product.

So how do you satisfy the fans?

Well, for starters, you could base your football operations on successful franchises. You could identify your long term goals of excellence and establish a comprehensive strategy to evaluate and hold every component of your organization accountable to your long term goals.

Then you will start to field teams that are consistent competitors like the Ravens, Steelers, Colts, and Pats to name a few

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 1, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see the Redskins do more of this. Whoever has a good game the previous week or a good week of practice gets the start on Sunday.

Make the players fight for their jobs...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 1, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Why, IMO, CH48 was out of position and had ot play catch up on the interference play.

In the first ahlf on the 99 yard drive. Defesen stopped them short, but Lions were called for a penalty. In a move even more ingenious than calling the 819th run left in short yardage, Zorn takes the penalty. ITs 3rd and 13 and Redskins rush 3(4?, no real matte) and play max protect. Dbs and LBs all stay home in their pass pro. Stafford escapes the "rush" and gallops unmolested for a first down. DBs could not close quick enough.

Now its the second half and another 3rd and long. 48 thinks "I'm gonna get the guy before he makes a first down scrambling or before the RB eludes the DL and LBs" and peeks in the backfield instead of paying sole attention to his coverage. Guy gets a step or two, ball is under thrown, and Horton gets a flag. He was smoked from the get go looking in the backfield, and if the ball was throw well, the guy catches a wide open TD anyway.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 1, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

should bench landry, not horton. landry cant tackle a pop warner player.

Posted by: jperkmd82 | October 1, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

They need to bench Deangelo Hall and Landry, Horton has made less mistakes than those guys and he's getting benched. Pittiful tackling, lousy coverage, no heart, just show me the money!!!!!

Posted by: USCGLUPER | October 1, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

should bench landry, not horton. landry cant tackle a pop warner player.

Posted by: jperkmd82 | October 1, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Landry only likes to hit people and he can't even do that half the time.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 1, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I could not agree more with Sally's analysis regarding the systemic failure of the Redskins starting from the top down. The question becomes, what can we as fans do about it? We already boo, and we already sell our tickets to opposing fans (not that the Redskins care- see brokergate)- what is left? Personally, I think the only thing Synder understands is cash, thus a massive boycott of concessions, merchandise and tickets is required, however, I not sure we have the organization (on a fan level) to orchestrate such an undertaking. That said, if more of same keeps up, perhaps I will be proven wrong.


Posted by: HonestSkinsFan

I'm as critical as everyone else in terms of the decisions that were made under Snyder's reign as owner. To suggest that Sknins fans boycott merchandise and other stuff is assinine. I've been a fan before Snyder owned the team and I'll be one when the next dude buys it from him.

I don't base my fandom on who owns the team at all. To suggest that Snyder only cares about cash is ridiculous too. With all the sh$$ty decisions he's made the one thing he does is spend money. He's not Donald Sterling of the Clippers who doesn't spend any money and is ONLY concerned about showing a profit.

Posted by: dcwun | October 1, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Could be a message move but I think benching Landry would have been more of a message.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 1, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

We have players inactive and sitting on the bench that could do better than Hall and Landry, they have no heart. We signed Marko, play him!!!, give Kevin Barnes a chance!!!, all these young guys will make mistakes but improve over time. Hall makes the same damn mistake every week, trying to push guys to tackle them, my gosh that's pittiful. They want more than just a paycheck. We need to make an example out of some of those glory boys!!!!

Posted by: USCGLUPER | October 1, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

reed doughty will NOT make much of a difference more than 1 person are failing in this defense(smoot,hall,landry is up and down, orapko should be a DE ONLY, daniels is too slow off the edge to get to the qb etc.)and blache is playing not to lose this team forces NO turnovers NO sacks NO defensive td's. when detroit max protected their qb that means 2/3 receivers went out on patterns,washington rarely blitzes and they have 6-7 men covering 3 and still giving up first downs and big plays? If they lose this wk to tampa bay fire zorn & blache right on the field, I know snyder and cerrato are the big problems but zorn is soft and blache is coaching afraid leaving in players who can't cover or tackle and are not disciplined and want to free-lance.

Posted by: wathu19 | October 1, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

There are guys playing far worse than Horton right now that should be escorted to the plastic bench on the sideline. These lazy check collectors need to be called into account . . .

Posted by: VeloStrummer | October 1, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I like the kid Lendy Holmes the Skins have on their practice Squad. He was impressive during the preseason. So just a thought, he might be moved up next year, sooner rather than later.

Posted by: gcoles32 | October 1, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

DISCLAIMER: The following is NOT a sign of the end of days...

"To fix things all Danny has to do is rehire Gibbs as a real president. (Not as HC too). Gibbs is the best coach and HOF coach the Redskins ever had along with Vince Lombardi. Parcells is doing this for Miami. Gibbs, with a piece of the action, will care more about the Redskins than Parcells does for the Fins. Give him all football operations and management power this time. Let Gibbs hire the coaches, the GM, etc.

Posted by: periculum | October 1, 2009 1:03 PM"

Wow, I actually 100%, no strings, no conditions agree with Periculum.

Posted by: ThinkingMan | October 1, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Why Take out horton b/c he got a pass interference call. Yeah REED been playing well so i dont have problem with going with the hot guy. WHy cant we get our young talent on the field i love landry but his game is not on right now maybe he take a deep breath . Where's Kareem Moore where is marko mitchell u cant tell me he dropped off that bad Blache I dont like old caoches; the young players cant make a mistake but old VETS Can scew up all game and its all right . That SUCKS!!

Posted by: chinngy23 | October 1, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

So now Blatche makes a bold move he benches Chris Horton for Reed Doughty are you freaking kidding me?

Why not bench Andre Carter and Phillip Daniels for not generating any sort of pass rush or stopping second tier running backs from gaining 100 yards?

Why not move Orakpo to his natural defensive end position and moving Chrs Wilson to strong side linebacker

Why not advise his corners to get up closer to the line of scrimage?

Maybe Horton wouldn't have gotten that ridiculous pass interference call if we had a freaking pass rush or to the lesser extent a quarterback hurry!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | October 1, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

If Blatche can do this, so can Zorn. Bench Campbell.

Posted by: hock1 | October 1, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Here are the skins issues no matter how many games they lose you can hold the players accountable only so much and for so long, it has to come a time where upper mgmt, has to start taking responsibility for their actions, as for the skins players making too much money, and not living up to their salaries, that's exactly what happens when owner, like Snyder throws money around like it's water,the time is coming where Snyder is gonna have no choice but to change his ways, because no coach is gonna work for him or assistant coach, is gonna want the promotion because of who he's, working for because certain owners, have a way of ruining coaches careers,or a new coach that is starting off he's not working for owners like snyder,because he has a way of damaging your career period.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | October 1, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Here are the skins issues no matter how many games they lose you can hold the players accountable only so much and for so long, it has to come a time where upper mgmt, has to start taking responsibility for their actions, as for the skins players making too much money, and not living up to their salaries, that's exactly what happens when owner, like Snyder throws money around like it's water,the time is coming where Snyder is gonna have no choice but to change his ways, because no coach is gonna work for him or assistant coach, is gonna want the promotion because of who he's, working for because certain owners, have a way of ruining coaches careers,or a new coach that is starting off he's not working for owners like snyder,because he has a way of damaging your career period.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | October 1, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

assignments with Chris horton or Reed Doughty covering good receivers downfield?
Great coaching!

Posted by: millineumman | October 1, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Certainly he made mistakes, but so did a whole bunch of people starting with ZORN himself. they don't have the guts to make real changes so they are finding the easiest route...CH48. Bench Portis!!! Why not?? he can barely practice and is certainly making mistakes.

there is a reason that the Eagles and Steelers (and Patriots) do well...they can draft and develop teams...not the Spendskins!!!

Posted by: thepinched | October 1, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

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