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Haynesworth, Portis, Moss to Sit Out Scrimmage

I thought I had Tweeted this from the field, but something must be wrong with my Twitter: Pro Bowl defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, running back Clinton Portis and wide receiver Santana Moss are among the veterans not expected to participate in Saturday's intrasquad scrimmage at Redskins Park, Coach Jim Zorn said after practice.

By Jason Reid  |  August 7, 2009; 3:58 PM ET
 
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first?

Posted by: carocanesfan | August 7, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I got no problem with that.

(slackers)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 7, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

something must be wrong with my Twitter

sounds like a personal problem to me.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

something must be wrong with my Twitter

sounds like a personal problem to me.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 4:08 PM

Need the name of a good urologist?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 7, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I thought I had Tweeted this from the field, but something must be wrong with my Twitter


This one is way to easy

Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 7, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Are you talking about Bridges, because he played Tackle for the Panthers...I mean, not to throw facts into this or anything....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, he was drafted as a guard has started in 39 games in his career and like 4 were at tackle, so I'm talking about him yes, he's a guard that can play tackle in a pinch, hardly the greatest of backup plans.....better than the 450 pound hope though...

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, he was drafted as a guard has started in 39 games in his career and like 4 were at tackle zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:12 PM |

That's not ture from 2006-2008 Bridges started 28 games...14 starts at RT, 14 starts at RG

Posted by: TWISI | August 7, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

zj, show me once place, one publication that stated the redskins plans of using mike williams in the starting lineup. he was a feel good story, worth the very minimal risk to sign, to see if he worked out......had he actually turned out to be more than serviceable, you'd have spun it as nothing more than luck....sound about right.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

That's exactly my point. Why didn't they move Jansen to LT? The real reason they didn't put Heyer back in at RT is because JJ was pouting like a beeatch when he wasn't playing and Zorn didn't want to deal with a surly vet. To avoid a repeat of that sitchiation Zorn got his sjk out of here this year.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 7, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

They didn't move Jansen to LT because he sucks at pass blocking, and Heyer is better at it so its more important to have the better pass blocker on the QB's blindside. Face it, Heyer can't run block and Jansen couldn't pass block, if you put them together you had a good player, but Heyer as our best/only option with nothing really at all behind him when he and Samuels both have shown a propensity for injuries is just plain stupid. I'm not arguing about Heyer being the starter, given what we have he's the right choice and lets all hope that he has gotten a lot better....but not have a real option behind him or for that matter behind Samuels and Thomas (injury risks as well) is just really stupid. Even assuming that Bridges can make a legitimate transition and be an option you can't tell me you'd want him as the only backup on the roster......right now our entire depth chart behind 3 injury prone starters (LT, RG, RT) is Rhino and Bridges......

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

ah the old, don't let facts get in your way, STRIKES AGAIN......

good talking to you zj...you're fun...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Maybe replacing Heyer with Jansen wasn't a pretense (Heyer's shoulder, and an earlier hammy thing), and maybe it was just "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" with Jansen at RT for the first part of the season, but I don't think its accurate to say that Heyer couldn't beat out Jansen last year. After Week 8, every game was just "one win away" ... that didn't happen.

Jansen's first week back resulted in the O-line being considered stellar b/c of the back-to-back NFC East wins away, so I'm thinking there was some "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" going on and that lingered into the second half of the season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ross_tucker/10/06/grades/

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

If Zorn is smart, he's gonna line up Mike Williams as an RB. Along with Mike Sellers. To protect Jason Campbell.

Not saying those guys will do much pass blocking in a scrimmage, but it'll be a lot harder to find Campbell if he gets to hide behind those 2 guys.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 7, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

right now our entire depth chart behind 3 injury prone starters ... is Rhino and Bridges ...

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:19 PM

Factually, there are actually three or more such guys on the depth chart, but your point is well-taken and, I think, universally agreed on ... that inattention to the O-line was predicted to be a problem after 2007, remained a problem in 2008, and was not seriously addressed in free agency or the draft ... for reasons known only by The Owner and the EVP (though those reasons potentially were communicated to the coaching staff). My guess is something about how O-linemen don't sell jerseys ... and articles like Ross Tucker's assigning the Skins' O-line an A+ after Week 5 was dismissed as being only words by a former O-linemen who happens to know those guys ... and maybe attributing the success in the first half of the season exclusively to Zorn's new offensive play-calling (and discounting the role of non-jersey-selling talent on the O-line).

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Is the scrimmage televised?

Posted by: erleach | August 7, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Is the scrimmage televised?

Posted by: erleach | August 7, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Williams and Sellers would be good for the newly reduced kick off wedge.

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Is the scrimmage televised?

Posted by: erleach | August 7, 2009 4:27 PM

Comcast Sportsnet and NBC-4 (next Thursday at 7:30 Eastern).

The revolution, however, will not be televised.

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Bean, ESPN, the Post, PFT and Vinny all said he would be in the mix for the starting RT position when they signed him if he could get his weight down.....everybody on here knows that and you do to, so you can take the time to go look it up beyond here:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/04/30/new-redskins-ot-mike-williams-wants-to-get-down-to-360-by-june/

from redskins.com:
ridges said he sees the same character traits in his new Redskins teammates.

“There’s a great group of guys here,” he said. “They’re easy to talk to and they’re always willing to help you out. They want you to succeed because they know that if you succeed, then they succeed.”

Bridges is competing with Heyer and Mike Williams for the starting right tackle job.

His experience at right guard gives him an advantage when it comes time for roster cuts in late August. Coaches value versatility in offensive linemen because it gives them more options in case of injury.

“I think he probably feels more comfortable at guard,” offensive line coach Joe Bugel said. “But if we need him at tackle, that’s where he is going to be. He’s a tough kid. You can’t wear him down and you can’t give him enough.”


and from the post:
Zorn himself said it was a battle
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/zorn-discusses-jansen-decision.html

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

This says Bridges has played more games at tackle than at guard.

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Bridges_Confident_He_Can_Make_An_Impact_45904.jsp

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

intrasquad scrimmage??

Posted by: frak | August 7, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh, read the damn article, frak, you schizo!!

Posted by: frak | August 7, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

And to the other guy, Bridges was drafted as a guard, has 14 starts out of 39 at tackle, the rest at guard, which do you think he's better suited for? You and Bean should put down the kool-aid for a second and actually take a look at this team and realize we are in dire shape on the oline. If Samuels goes down again our season is screwed before it starts, if Rhino doesn't take major steps forward we're in real trouble, and if Bridges is playing tackle for us this year that's not a great thing.....plz just stop swallowing the company line from Ashburn whole of thinking everything is just fine..nothing to see here...we have lot's of talent...and look at the facts. This same line completely fell apart last year (and Heyer was playing during that) with the only change they brought back dockery to the one position (LG) that wasn't a problem and they still have no competent backups......it aint a good situation folks and after decade of stupid choices haven't ya'll learned by now not to believe what they say???

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

BEEP

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

This says Bridges has played more games at tackle than at guard.

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Bridges_Confident_He_Can_Make_An_Impact_45904.jsp

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse
From your link:
He earned playing time on a “young and hungry” Arizona Cardinals club and started 11-of-21 games at left and right guard.

Then he headed back east to Carolina where he started 28-of-41 games, mostly at right tackle, for the Panthers.

11 games at guard, for the panther 14 of 28 were at tackle....so of the 39 games he's started......do you need help with the math?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 7, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"4 were at tackle"

zj, its not so much that we're sticking out heads in the sand, as you just have no idea what you're talking about, you quote stats, that just aren't even close to accurate....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

dude, you said he played 4 games at tackle...who needs the help with math...not to mention that you've contradicted yourself, first its 4 games at tackle, then when you got exposed, you did some fact checking, now its 14 of 28 at tackle....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 7, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Is the scrimmage televised?

Posted by: erleach | August 7, 2009 4:27 PM

Comcast Sportsnet and NBC-4 (next Thursday at 7:30 Eastern).

The revolution, however, will not be televised.

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Its on Comcast huh? Im suprised Larry Michael hasnt been plugging the scrimmage being televised for the last 2 months.

Posted by: erleach | August 7, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

As long as Hunter Smith doesn't sit!

Posted by: joeboggs | August 7, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

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