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In former Redskins QBs, Saints find backups to Brees

The sidelines of Sunday's Super Bowl will feature two quarterbacks with Redskins ties and, obviously, we're not talking about Peyton Manning and Drew Brees.

Mark Brunell, the Redskins' last starter before Jason Campbell took over, signed with the Saints shortly after leaving Washington in 2008, and though he doesn't play much, he's praised as a vital part of the team.

Brunell played with the Redskins from 2004-07, starting 33 games in that period. But he was replaced by Campbell during the 2006 season. When in 2007, Todd Collins passed him on the depth chart, and in 2008,he found himself looking for a job.

Sean Payton, a former quarterback, and the Saints apparently didn't mind signing a 37-year-old quarterback as a reliable backup to Brees.

"One thing we were looking for was someone [who] A) we felt could still play," Payton said. "It's one thing to say we want to have a mentor and yet our jobs as coaches is to make sure we're providing that. So it started with the question, do we feel like we have a vision for the player in Mark Brunell? We felt like his arm strength was still solid and [so was his] delivery and there's a confidence level about him in the huddle and in practice that is somewhat contagious. And I think that's a good trait to have when you're someone who could be called on at any time.

"So outside the evaluation process, the other things were things we felt real good about. He has been someone who's a key figure on this team and has a key role. He still works and prepares just like you would expect for any one of your players each week."

Playing behind one of the league's top quarterbacks, Brunell didn't throw a single pass in 2008. This season, he played in every game, as holder for field goals and extra points. Brunell also finally threw his first pass in three seasons. With their playoff position locked up, the Saints started Brunell in the season finale against Carolina. He was 15-of-29 passing for 102 yards and an interception.

"Mark's been awesome," Brees said. "Mark Brunell has been tremendous for me, as a mentor, as a guy who has played a lot of football at a very high level. You're talking about a guy who's been to three Pro Bowls, led those teams in Jacksonville to two AFC championship games; he's played in a ton of big games, big atmospheres. He's a true professional."

The second quarterback with ties to the Redskins is rookie Chase Daniel, the Saints' third-stringer who was in Washington's training camp and released prior to the season. He hasn't been active for a single game, but Payton mentioned him during his Monday news conference without prompting. Payton said Daniel is "intriguing and has done some good things."

"So I think we have a pretty good mixture of some experience, as well as some youth," Payton said of the quarterbacks behind Brees.

By Rick Maese  |  February 2, 2010; 6:37 AM ET
 
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From a Redskin fan, the Saints better pray that Brees stays healthy in Super Bowl. If he goes out, Colts win big. Sorry, but 15-29 for 100 yards and an interception is just like the stats we saw on a regular basis here.

Posted by: sruppert | February 2, 2010 7:00 AM | Report abuse

Is this what we're going to do this week? Post every day on every guy the Redskins dropped who's in Miami? Leigh Torrence? Pearson Preaulieu? Gregg Williams?

What a waste of time. How about going after the really big Redskins news? What does Jim Zorn have to say after his first day on the job with the Ravens? How long is his commute? What does he think their team colors are?

Posted by: League-Source | February 2, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Sean Payton thinks Chase Daniel is
"intriguing and has done some good things." Zorn/Cerrato/Whoever made the decision for the '09 Redskins were willing to part with him like an old band-aid. Can't help but feel a little uneasy about that situation. Why do I have a nagging suspicion that Chase Daniel might be the last, and most memorable, missed opportunity of the nightmare that was the Cerrato era?

Posted by: MColeman51 | February 2, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

I think Chase could have developed into a good QB. He had a few intangibles. Alas we will never know.

Posted by: FedorEm | February 2, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Guys, I wouldn't rule Chase out altogether quite yet...I mean, if the Saints put him on the practice squad again he's fair game for anyone that wants to add him to the roster.

But no sense in bringing back Zorn rejects when Shanny will have a chance to bring in his own guys.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

In the preseason, Daniels delivery was more accurate, better thrown, and more decisive than Colt Brennan's. I thought they picked the wrong one to let go. On top of that, you can't say all those things about The Todd that Payton/Brees said about Brunell.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

"I think Chase could have developed into a good QB. He had a few intangibles. Alas we will never know."


I liked Daniels, too.

My preseason favs were Antonio Dixon, Chase Daniels, Marko Mitchell, Edwin Williams, and Jeremy Brdiges.

Mitchell and Williams are with the team.

Bridges and Daniels should be, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Let's not start crying over Chase Daniel. He has a long ways to go to establish himself as a viable option at QB for any team, and he's particularly limited because of his height. IMO Chase has a brighter future as a coach in the NFL than a full fledged starter.

Posted by: TWISI | February 2, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Chase Daniels?? Really?? Call me, not when he does something amazing....not when he does something spectacular...not when he does something great....but when he gets into a game....

this is the like the love affair that folks had with MMason....PRIOR to him having an ACTUAL, REAL-LIFE carry in an NFL game....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

In the preseason, Daniels delivery was more accurate, better thrown, and more decisive than Colt Brennan's. I thought they picked the wrong one to let go. On top of that, you can't say all those things about The Todd that Payton/Brees said about Brunell.

Posted by: dcsween | February 2, 2010 7:39 AM
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Technically they could have kept both. Brennan was moved to the IR, which freed a slot on the roster, but the geniuses in the front office decided to go it with two QB's on the active roster. After they saw the pounding JC was taking, the ultimately decided to go with three QB's on the active roster, but I think Chase was unavailable by that time. Coulda, woulda , shoulda - the mantra of the "Vinny the Weasel" era.

Speaking of QB's: Brodie Croyle is kind of the odd man out in KC, and I think he was developing before getting passed over for Matt Cassel. If Washington is going to do the right thing, and focus on the o-line in the draft, it might be interesting to trade for Croyle as an insurance policy. The team could re-sign Campbell, evaluate Croyle, Collins and Brennan, and hopefully end up with a better three QB's than they ended the season with.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Amen Greg...and don't forget Colt. And Marko Mitchell...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

All of them were keepers. Dixon should be here too.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

If the 2010 season will be uncapped, does that also mean teams might chose to hold on to players, only to release them during the summer?

Yes. I would.

That means no 'sal cap' casualities, right?

Maybe, maybe not.

So who should be worried, excited, or concerned with regard to the uncertainities an uncapped year might bring?

Small market teams as big market teams might use the time to swoop in and take all the talent they can find as they can afford it.

Is that why you're smiling?

Yes. Not only are we a big market team, we also now have the people in place to make some sound decisions about the roster.

The league sees 'uncapped year' as an issue.

But teams like the skins, 'boys, jints, and other that have money see that the opportunity to immediately upgrade their rosters has been uncapped.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

oh my god moe you sound like a yankee fan

Posted by: mudman220 | February 2, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

beantowngreg

from Yankees.com,

"Imagine if the Red Sox and the Yankees needed the same player at the same time, and it just happened to be Damon?"

So you're Johnny Damon, and you've got calls from the Evil Empire and the Theo E.

Who do you choose to respond to with Spring Training just two weeks away?

Both teams released Damon.

Both teams decided he wasn't the pay day he wanted.

It's like picking between the lesser of two evils, isn't it?

I say Damon is back in pinstripes before Memorial Day, even though the Sawx have a greater need for him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Moe, maybe not...from PFT:

Post-salary cap, teams will proceed at their own peril
Posted by Mike Florio on February 1, 2010 11:00 PM ET
We've received several questions over the past few weeks regarding the operation of player contracts after the evaporation of the salary cap.

And the answer to all questions is simple -- once the cap goes away, any further rules relating to the operation of the salary cap will hinge upon the collective bargaining process.

As NFL spokesman Greg Aiello explains it, there will be no "transition rules" unless and until the league and the NFLPA agree to such measures via collective bargaining. Thus, any team that decides to sign players to big-money deals will be assuming that risk that, eventually, they'll have to scramble for cap space, if/when a cap is reapplied.

This reality could cause some teams to be even more cautious when it comes to spending money in 2010.

Meanwhile, existing contracts can be dumped by trading or cutting players with no cap consequences in 2010. Presumably, there would be no lingering ramifications in future years covered by the deals, subject again to the collective bargaining process.

So, basically, the removal of the salary cap will plunge the entire player payroll system into uncertainty, and there will be no clear answers until the league and the union reach an accord regarding the next compensation scheme.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Yes. Not only are we a big market team, we also now have the people in place to make some sound decisions about the roster.

The league sees 'uncapped year' as an issue.

But teams like the skins, 'boys, jints, and other that have money see that the opportunity to immediately upgrade their rosters has been uncapped.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 8:50 AM |

Mista,

Don't forget about the rule limiting teams that were in the final 8 from signing FA's.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 2, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

"...oh my god moe you sound like a yankee fan.."

Thanks for the compliment, sir.

Numbers 44, 15, 2, and 23 are my favorite Yankees.

I will be in Tampa in March to catch a two Spring Training games.

The cards and marlins work out just 15 minutes from where I am right now.

And of course, the clueless mets are a two hour drive away.

Not that I'd ever go see them do anything.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

moe, I haven't read much into it, but I don't see Damon back with the sox, he's not what they're looking for, they need a big bat, or 3....I don't think he's back with the yanks for that matter either, I'd bet Tampa is the team who he ends up with.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

F a groundhog. That is all.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

brownie

"..the removal of the salary cap will plunge the entire player payroll system into uncertainty, and there will be no clear answers until the league and the union reach an accord regarding the next compensation scheme."


So the NFL, being a league of conservative gentlemen, will see a lot of vets sent out into the streets to save money.

But teams will play safe and not pick up or add money players not knowing the ramification long term.

So what do you do if a Peppers, Portis, or R Williams, or stud 30 year old offensive/defensive linemen is out there?

It's gonna be tought for folks to resist taking them, I'm sorry.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Chase Daniel = Babe Laufenberg
Mark Bruenell = 1998

THE FUTURE IS NOW!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 2, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if the 53 man roster limit is affected if no CBA is in place...

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 2, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm not saying that nobody's gonna pick those guys up, Moe. Just saying that the wide assumption that the big market teams are gonna spend big while the small market teams languish may prove to be incorrect. There's a good chance Peppers doesn't see the $100 million contract that many think he'll get and that fewer big names will get the REALLY big bucks.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if the 53 man roster limit is affected if no CBA is in place...

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 2, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I don't think so. I don't think they have to wear helmets either.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 2, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

so ley me get this right...Brunell and his "strong" arm averaged 3.something yards a reception against a Carolina team that had an eye on going home and playing golf. Barely hit half of his passes and had one picked. The dink and dunk king was washed up 5 years ago.

Posted by: NYskinsfan2 | February 2, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

The cards and marlins work out just 15 minutes from where I am right now.

And of course, the clueless mets are a two hour drive away.

Not that I'd ever go see them do anything.

Posted by: MistaMoe


Moe,

Where in Florida do you live?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 2, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

In an unrelated note, Hannah Storm can get it. To look that good on the cusp of 50 is crazy.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

The way you avoid future cap ramifications with the uncertainty of the cap being put back in place in 2011, is to front load the contracts you give to free agents. Give them all their guaranteed money as a roster bonus for 2010. A tactic like this is what will give Snyder an advantage over other owners who might not want to put that much cash on a player up front.

Is there some kind of rule in the current CBA that would prevent this strategy in an uncapped year?

Posted by: dfbovey | February 2, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

"Where in Florida do you live?"


Northern Palm Beach County.

Close enough to Rush Limbaugh to block his drive up North County Road like I did on day last spring.

Far enough from the gunfire of the 'hood just across from the island of Palm Beach.

It's sunny and 70 right now.

I'd buy a snow shovel, but hey, I ain't got no use for one, ya' heard me?

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

The way you avoid future cap ramifications with the uncertainty of the cap being put back in place in 2011, is to front load the contracts you give to free agents. Give them all their guaranteed money as a roster bonus for 2010. A tactic like this is what will give Snyder an advantage over other owners who might not want to put that much cash on a player up front.

Is there some kind of rule in the current CBA that would prevent this strategy in an uncapped year?

Posted by: dfbovey | February 2, 2010 9:29 AM


Yeah, there is a provision to prevent that, Bovey. I don't know the exact figure, but there can only be a certain percentage increase from the 1st year to the subsequent years. In other words, there's no way you can sign a guy to a $20 million contract and give him $15 million up front.

That's what leads me to say that the uncapped year isn't the dream come true so many think it is. Unless, of course, you're just dumping big salaries with no cap hit. Which the Redskins should be salavating over.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I used to live in Cutler ridge years ago, and have relatives in Miami and Tampa now.
Nice not needing a snow shovel for real.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 2, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

It is so funny that people keeps criticizing Chase Daniel for his lack of height. Chase Daniel is listed as 6 feet tall. Drew (All World) Brees is listed as 6 feet tall. Even if you give or take one or two inches, they are exactly the same height. It is the coaching and the system that will enhance or hinder a QB's development, not his height. Thus Sean Peyton is the true visionary while Jim Zorn will is not. By the way, Colt Brennan is officially listed as 6 feet 3 inches, but I swear he is the shortest 6'3" person on TV! Again, I agree with most of the comments, the Redskins let go the wrong 3rd string QB!

Posted by: JohnWWW | February 2, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

this is the like the love affair that folks had with MMason....PRIOR to him having an ACTUAL, REAL-LIFE carry in an NFL game....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Greg, i call this the Theofiledes syndrome. i've been observing it, since i was '68, when my folks saw Harry pull a come-from-behind in pre-season & were part of a chorus that wanted him to start ahead of....Sonny...of all things.

this syndrome, like malaria, is impossible to shake, and, like the flu, mutates a little every summer.

Posted by: mdrockjock | February 2, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I agree with most of the comments, the Redskins let go the wrong 3rd string QB!

can you please compare and contrast the stats of Colt Brennan, versus Chase Daniel during the regular season?? Also include in that a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarter breakdown for each qb...what...wait, whats that?? neither guy has played in a regular season NFL game....oh....so how do you know the wrong guy was let go??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

"That's what leads me to say that the uncapped year isn't the dream come true so many think it is."

I agree.

But then again, let's say the dolphins release Ricky Williams or the panthers let Peppers go.

Would they both be nice add-ons?

Certainly.

Some smart GMs will find a way to take advantage of the league's conservative nature, and find nice add-ons here and there.

Hopefully, Bruce Allen is one of those GMs who finds gems.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

so how do you know the wrong guy was let go??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


Gut feelings and whatnot.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 2, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

"15-of-29 passing for 102 yards and an interception."

Wow. I never realized how much I missed him until now...

Posted by: edvar | February 2, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

so how do you know the wrong guy was let go??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse


We'd be having this same coversation about Colt if he'd been the one let go. one.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 2, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I agree with most of the comments, the Redskins let go the wrong 3rd string QB!

can you please compare and contrast the stats of Colt Brennan, versus Chase Daniel during the regular season?? Also include in that a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarter breakdown for each qb...what...wait, whats that?? neither guy has played in a regular season NFL game....oh....so how do you know the wrong guy was let go??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 9:46 AM
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What the team should have done was to have put Chase Daniel on the IR with some BS injury as well. That way they could have squirreled away two quarterbacks for this year. BTW, what is the scoop on the other quarterback they have on their roster - Richard Bartel? Looks like he was more of a project having played at a small college and then bouncing around a few teams' practice squads...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

oe, no, no we wouldn't either....or at least anyone with any sense wouldn't....repeat to yourself, 3rd string qb, with the same NFL Game stats as Cindy Boren/the tooth fairy, and bama-red....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Chase Daniel = Leigh Torrence

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

"15-of-29 passing for 102 yards and an interception."

That averages out to 15 completions at 6.8 yards.

That's a lot of sideline passes as from what I remember about Mr. Brunell, the wide receiver screen was his play of choice.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

"What the team should have done was to have put Chase Daniel on the IR with some BS injury as well"

are you friggin kidding me?? They'd have gone at LEAST 12-4 had they done this....BRILLIANT....simply brilliant...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I meant the all-encompassing we, not you and I. You and I would be discussing fake PFT stories.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 2, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

"What the team should have done was to have put Chase Daniel on the IR with some BS injury as well"

are you friggin kidding me?? They'd have gone at LEAST 12-4 had they done this....BRILLIANT....simply brilliant...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 10:02 AM
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I always felt Vinny didn't understand the subtle nuances of lying about putting players on the IR. It's puzzling too, since he was so good at lying about other things...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I say we hold open tryouts and let the local garbage man or Tony Danza become the Place Kicker and Mark Wahlberg become our WR/Special Teamer. Tom Cruise could be their agent.

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Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 2, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, there is a provision to prevent that, Bovey. I don't know the exact figure, but there can only be a certain percentage increase from the 1st year to the subsequent years. In other words, there's no way you can sign a guy to a $20 million contract and give him $15 million up front.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 2, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

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The wording about increases doesn't really seem to pertain to the front-loading scenario I mentioned though. Unless the wording says that a contract MUST increase incrementally by a certain amount each year. What you mentioned is that there is a cap on how much a contract can increase each year... which would prevent severely back-loaded contracts. Not front-loaded ones.

If I recall, the Eagles have given front loaded contracts to a few players when they've had extra cap space to work with in a given year.

Posted by: dfbovey | February 2, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

They kept Colt and released chase because Colt was a draft pick, which is ironic in a way seeing how they dealt with the draft under Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 2, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Colt vs. Chase = power rankings.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 2, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

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I always felt Vinny didn't understand the subtle nuances of lying about putting players on the IR. It's puzzling too, since he was so good at lying about other things...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:06 AM
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Speaking of which, Antonio Dixon should have had a serious bout of tackleus abundus that would have put him on the IR. Then they'd have their 3-4 nose tackle this season.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Hi, my name is Steve and I'm a blogaholic.

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 2, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Good for Brunell....I actually liked the guy and he had a few good years with us....

...I only soured slightly when he played injured and didn't reveal how serious it was.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 2, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS trade HAYNESWORTH and PORTIS for an extra first, a third, and a sixth. We trade down to eight with OAKLAND for an extra second. With our regular picks and these new ones, we begin to rebuild the offense, and we get a great FS - NICK COLLINS from BUFFALO with a pick. In FA, we get CARLOS DANSBY, ANGELO CROWELL, or KEITH BULLOCK for SSLB. We make a run at DUNDA ROBINSON with one extra pick. We sign CAMPBELL for two, and lose ARE.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I always felt Vinny didn't understand the subtle nuances of lying about putting players on the IR. It's puzzling too, since he was so good at lying about other things...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Ah yes, 'VINNIE the rug.'

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS trade HAYNESWORTH and PORTIS for an extra first, a third, and a sixth. We trade down to eight with OAKLAND for an extra second. With our regular picks and these new ones, we begin to rebuild the offense, and we get a great FS - NICK COLLINS from BUFFALO with a pick. In FA, we get CARLOS DANSBY, ANGELO CROWELL, or KEITH BULLOCK for SSLB. We make a run at DUNDA ROBINSON with one extra pick. We sign CAMPBELL for two, and lose ARE.

Posted by: glawrence007


nkay.

Posted by: stevek20147 | February 2, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

and they draft kittens, cuz no one is gonna tackle a kitten.....

idiot

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS trade HAYNESWORTH and PORTIS for an extra first, a third, and a sixth. We trade down to eight with OAKLAND for an extra second. With our regular picks and these new ones, we begin to rebuild the offense, and we get a great FS - NICK COLLINS from BUFFALO with a pick. In FA, we get CARLOS DANSBY, ANGELO CROWELL, or KEITH BULLOCK for SSLB. We make a run at DUNDA ROBINSON with one extra pick. We sign CAMPBELL for two, and lose ARE.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2010 10:57 AM

Bean, please have at it....

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 2, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Is this what we're going to do this week? Post every day on every guy the Redskins dropped who's in Miami? Leigh Torrence? Pearson Preaulieu? Gregg Williams?

What a waste of time. How about going after the really big Redskins news? What does Jim Zorn have to say after his first day on the job with the Ravens? How long is his commute? What does he think their team colors are?

Posted by: League-Source


Look Source, this kind of snarkiness...well not so much snarkiness but unwelcome satir...oh, Hell, even I can't defend the Post on this one.

I'd have preferred an update on a rodent's rump.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

What the team should have done was to have put Chase Daniel on the IR with some BS injury as well.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 9:59 AM

What does this get you? Put him on IR and he can't practice with the team. He comes back next year as bad as he was this year.

The Redskins didn't like Chase Daniel. They looked at him in preseason and they didn't want him on their team. They had one of the elite QB coaches in the league who looked at the guy and said "ehh." So, he went to New Orleans and he couldn't even beat out Brunell for backup.

Most of the time in New Orleans he was on the practice squad. Does that give you an idea of how much New Orleans valued him? And on the practice squad, any team in the league could have claimed him, but none did. Does that give you an idea of how the rest of the league sees him?

But, yeah, it's Vinny's fault for not using IR more creatively.

Posted by: League-Source | February 2, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS trade HAYNESWORTH and PORTIS for an extra first, a third, and a sixth. We trade down to eight with OAKLAND for an extra second. ...

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2010 10:57 AM

I think some posters here are a little unclear on the concept of just what getting rid of Vinny Cerrato means. It MEANS the brain trust at Redskin Park just might be a little more competent than the individual, or combined genius of us folks.

It means no longer do we have to offer our advice, or come up with compound/complex trade/FA scenarios guaranteed to mean the playoffs.

12 Steops, people. 12 Steps.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS trade HAYNESWORTH and PORTIS for an extra first, a third, and a sixth. We trade down to eight with OAKLAND for an extra second. ...

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2010 10:57 AM

Your take sucks, mine rules corkster. Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

It means no longer do we have to offer our advice, or come up with compound/complex trade/FA scenarios guaranteed to mean the playoffs.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:17 AM

Lemme 'splain it to you, Lucy. Vinny's mistake was simple: he either didn't understand what we were telling him or he ignored it. It cost him his job. We think the new management is an improvement over Vinny. They WILL listen to us. Our input is now more important than ever.

Posted by: League-Source | February 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Jeff Bridges wins for Best Actor. Book it. He plays a lush, he does his own singing, he has four previous noms, he's popular with the Academy, he's won a bunch of lead-up honors and he didn't impregnate someone else's wife.

Bullock favorite for Actress, but if I had a vote it would go to Carey Mulligan. But Sandra, one the the most well-liked people in Hollywood probably wins.

I think Bigelow wins for best director. Cameron can't attend the Oscars because his swelled head won't fit thru the door, so despite the enormous accomplishment of Avatar they want to prick his balloon by giving it to his ex-wife and finally having a woman win.

Avatar or Hurt Locker for Best picture is the best race. Big huge overblown Hollywood vs. the indy/type work of art everyone thinks they should be making.

Best surprise? The writers of "In the Loop." Brilliant political satire.

Biggest disappointment. Mark Brunell not nominated.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 2, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

if I had a vote it would go to Carey Mulligan.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:25 AM

Someone took away your vote, Cork? That's not right. Hope you show them and bribe a few other glitterati to vote for Carey.

Posted by: League-Source | February 2, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Vick wants to be a starter....to the Skins?
Saying he will draw a 4th rounder.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 2, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 2, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS trade HAYNESWORTH and PORTIS for an extra first, a third, and a sixth. We trade down to eight with OAKLAND for an extra second. ...

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 2, 2010 10:57 AM

Your take sucks, mine rules corkster. Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007

Can't argue with that kind of logic, Cowboy. By the way, CBs are over. Yee Haw your own damn self.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

if I had a vote it would go to Carey Mulligan.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:25 AM

Someone took away your vote, Cork? That's not right. Hope you show them and bribe a few other glitterati to vote for Carey.

Posted by: League-Source |

Unlike the HOF and NBA All-Star game, Oscar voting is limited to people in the craft. Not in the Academy, never had a vote. Only acted in one movie. and THAT movie won the Razzie.

By calling her Carey, I assume, then you know her.

Posted by: TheCork | February 2, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

corky broke the blog...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 2, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN Insider:

Portis wants to return, have fun
11:43AM ET
Clinton Portis | Redskins
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We've been intrigued by the Clinton Portis situation in Washington. One of Mike Shanahan's former charges with the Denver Broncos -- who Shanahan traded away, mind you -- has been rubbing teammates the wrong way, according to 'Skins blog Homer McFanboy.

Shanahan himself hasn't mentioned whether or not the team will bring Portis back, but with word that the team has brought RB coach Bobby Turner over from the Broncos, perhaps this is a sign that they'll keep the RB. Portis himself was on ESPN2's "First Take" on Tuesday morning, and noted that "I'm far from washed up or done. I will walk away from this game when I'm ready. The game's not gonna pass me by." He explained his regression in 2009 in saying, "I got so tired of all the BS that I just fell back. I think with Coach Shanahan coming in, that will give us the opportunity to have fun."

Taking a realistic viewpoint, the 'Skins will need to focus much more on rebuilding their offensive line than any of the skill positions, and acquiring a future franchise QB might also be more important than the RB situation. But with a rebuilt O-line, perhaps we'll see a vintage version Portis in 2010.

Matt Mosley

Portis talks a better game than he plays

"Shanahan has already alluded to the fact that a veteran back has to be willing to put in the work in the offseason, something that hasn't been one of Portis' strengths in the past. We'll see if the presence of a former mentor can have any influence on Portis, a player who chose to criticize his teammates on the radio this past season rather than actually hang around and help them through some tough times."

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IMHO, Portis quit caring or trying after the Ravens game last season, he hated Zorn, thought his offense was a joke, and knew that Zorn was gonna be canned before he would be. I think CP also knows Shanny doesn't give a crap about getting rid of him since he's done it once already, and Snyder has done a good job of showing (not even at the press conference for Zorn's firing and sitting in the crowd for the Shanny hiring) that Allen and Shanny are in charge. IMHO we see Portis in good shape and have a good season next year, he cares most about his straight pockets and has to know if we cut him he'll never see money like he's getting now again.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 2, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Chase Daniel = Leigh Torrence

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse


There can only be one god.

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 2, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

There is no reason any team should trade for Vick. He wants to start and has a fairly sizable option with the Eagles. Unless they trade McNabb or Kolb, Vick will be a free agent. And probably isn't accurate enough to run what Shanahan wants to anyway.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | February 2, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

When is the last time Brunell won a start in the NFL?

Posted by: jgarrisn | February 2, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Chase Daniel = Leigh Torrence

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse


There can only be one god.

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 2, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse


Have you ever seen them both at the same time? May Leigh Torrence steps into a phone booth and Chase Daniel steps out?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Well see on Portis. Years ago, Sonny J changed his habits when Lombardi took over. Perhaps Portis will see the opportunity with Shanahan.

Portis needs a couple more good years to be seriously considered for the HOF. Maybe that motivates him?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Portis needs a couple more good years to be seriously considered for the HOF. Maybe that motivates him?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 2, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

IMO one thing motivates him, money, which still works in our favor, cause if he gets cut he loses a ton of money.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 2, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 2, 2010 12:01 PM

I can buy that. Also, from what I remember, Shanahan liked to rotate RBs during the game, which should help CP. CP knows how Shanahan operates, he'll give it his best effort, otherwise he knows Shanahan will get rid of him.

Posted by: TWISI | February 2, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Portis would do well to show his commitment by getting in the best shape of his life before minicamp (providing Shanahan keeps him that long). Maybe get his bone spurs taken care of now if he hasn't already. While I agree with Mosley to an extent on the skin having bigger priorities on the O-line, if Betts and Portis can't go then they really need to look at a RB at some point in the draft.

Posted by: skinswest | February 2, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Gilbert Arenas pens story about redemption"

from ESPN.com,
"Suspended Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas said ....he'll try to rebuild his relationship with D.C. youth following his guilty plea on a felony gun charge."


Wow.

Just what the children of the nation's capitol need--a guy who didn't have a clue about putting guns in a sports locker room to mentor them about weapon use.

Arenas will tell the children of Anacostia that happiness is a warm gun.

Like they don't know that already.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 2, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Chase Daniel = Leigh Torrence

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 2, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse


There can only be one god.

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 2, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse


Have you ever seen them both at the same time? May Leigh Torrence steps into a phone booth and Chase Daniel steps out?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 2, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

haha, wtf?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 2, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

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