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In The Tank

In a blog recently concerning the Redskins' spending, I made reference to owner Daniel Snyder's other businesses being "in the tank."

David Donovan, the Redskins' General Counsel, took issue with this and sent a letter to washingtonpost.com and The Washington Post complaining that the statement unfairly and inaccurately characterized Snyder's business acumen.

The businesses I had in mind were those with prominent local ties - his Red Zebra radio stations, and Six Flags theme parks. I was not referring to any of Mr. Snyder's other businesses. My opinion was based on the fact that Red Zebra's Arbitron ratings have been poor and fans have complained about its weak signals, particularly during broadcasts of Redskins games. As for Six Flags, its stock price fell from around $12 a share to less than $2 a share after Snyder led a hostile takeover of the company in 2005, installing a new CEO and winning shareholder approval to oust the existing directors.

Mr. Donovan counters that "Red Zebra has continued to expand in an industry in which other companies are shedding stations and expects to achieve double-digit growth during 2008 and 2009." He also says that Mr. Snyder neither owns nor manages Six Flags - he is "a stockholder and non-managing Chairman of the Board" so it is therefore not his business.

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 14, 2008; 3:02 PM ET
 
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Danny Boy has an ego problem. Facts speak for themselves.

Posted by: Richie | April 14, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

XL Panties

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Impressive. They obviously emply a very high quality of hair-splitter over at the Redskins!

Posted by: Redcoat | April 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

You're kidding me. We know this already. What happened to this blog? Did all your inside sources really go away when Gibbs left, because this is ridiculous. I know Dan Snyder is a world class A-hole. I've accepted it and moved on. Why can't you? You have missed so many stories this offseason it's unbelievable. And it would be fine if you were still going through all your stuff at home but the fact that you post this stuff shows you have time on your hands to look into what the team is trying to do this offseason, and instead you waste our time with this crap. I can't believe I'm going to say this but ExtremeSkins has become a better source, and thats just sad.

Posted by: RV | April 14, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

If Donovan ever needs a new job I'm sure a well-known person could use his help with redefining "what you mean by the word 'is'".

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Dear David Donovan:

Daniel Snyder's other businesses are in the tank.

Sincerely,
RI

Posted by: RI | April 14, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

not quite sure what this has to do with the Redskins in general? Surely, 2 weeks before the draft, a team with a good number of needs, and a new coach, installing a good system, surely, there is something more football related to write about than the tired old, pot shot at the owner......

Posted by: Greg | April 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

BigMurf08

Posted by: BONG! | April 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Is this a forced "mea cupla"?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

My golf game is in the tank

Posted by: Tiger Woods | April 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Great, because he's not the non-managing Chairman of the Board of the Washington Redskins. Lord help us.

Posted by: theslick50 | April 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank

Posted by: The Economy | April 14, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank.

Posted by: My Goldfish | April 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

The DC Red Zebra stations went from 1 Million in revenue last year to 10 Million. Great reporting! (source: dcrtv.com)

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

great reporting jasno! keep the great redskins insider blogs coming!

Posted by: talkshowhost | April 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank

Posted by: $3.50 a gallon gas | April 14, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Correction: 1 Million in '06 to 10 Million in '07

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I am most definitely in the tank

Posted by: Redskins Insider Blog | April 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The DC Red Zebra stations went from 1 Million in revenue last year to 10 Million. Great reporting! (source: dcrtv.com)

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2008 3:21 PM

Nice try. What was their cost base, and what was their audience share?

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if red zebra makes 100 million. you can't hear any of the damn stations so make it pretty hard to listen to the game

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 14, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

What a exciting pre draft BLOG

LOL

I can tell you already the condescending BS that is goint to be thrown Zorns way is going to be funny to watch. The respect from the Post seems to have walked out the door with Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I'mz isn thu drunxk tnk

Posted by: 12 beers later | April 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

My opinion was based on the fact that Red Zebra's Arbitron ratings have been poor and fans have complained about its weak signals, particularly during broadcasts of Redskins games

That is a pretty weak start to defending the statement that his business's are in the tank. I would think a better place to start regarding RZ would have been growth, revenue, things of that nature? But then I don't have an axe to grind, so what do I know.

Posted by: Greg | April 14, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Are you sure you don't have an axe to grind Greg?

You've already posted twice on this thread basically stating the same thing both times, i.e. Jasno is using this blog to advance a personal grudge/bias against the Redskins and their ownership.

Sounds like plenty of grinding to me.

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Nice try. What was their cost base, and what was their audience share?

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 3:23 PM


You trying to say a 2 year old sports radio station which has shown 9 million in growth (compared to 1 million) over one year is "in the tank?" And beaten the mighty Clear Channel sports station? You tell me how that's a reasonable assumption, and I'll tell you about cost base and audience share.

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Why are the Redskins so concerned about what a blogger has to say about the owner? Whether it's a mistake or not, I think it's a waste of time for them to address it the way they did. Focus on the draft, please.

Posted by: KB | April 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

You trying to say a 2 year old sports radio station which has shown 9 million in growth (compared to 1 million) over one year is "in the tank?" And beaten the mighty Clear Channel sports station? You tell me how that's a reasonable assumption, and I'll tell you about cost base and audience share.

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2008 3:36 PM

I might be. I might not be. What I am saying is that the numbers you used prove nothing either way. What did it cost to get that growth? What impact are they actually having in their local market in terms of audience share? If they're winning who are they taking it from? If they're losing who to?

You know, the sort of information you need if you're running a business, not just trying to win an argument.

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

the way i see it, if jasno choses to use his blog to grind his axe against all things redskins, then greg has every right to use this blog to grind our axe with jasno. jasno sets the tone. we're just following suit.

Posted by: talkshowhost | April 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Important word in the first sentence TSH is 'if'. What if he isn't?

And regardless "he started it" is hardly taking the high road if you think he is dissing your team!

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Ryan is correct. Red Zebra went from $1M to $10M.

But, the majority of this revenue probably came from Redskins' Games advertising.

Consider this,

The Redskins use to charge $10M for the rights to broadcast Redskins games on WJFK.

Also, DCRTV has been reporting rumors that Snyder is looking to upgrade by purchasing stations with stronger signals because XXX may go in 'the tank' if it dosen't happen.

Snyder is also trying to purchase WTEM (980)if/when Clear Channel starts to sale off their stations.

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

In response to the forced mea culpa theory... I would think it has to be. The editors had to have done some arm twisting to get this one out of Jasno.

It's one of those issues where the truth behind Jasno's generalization about Snyder's businesses is open to some level of interpretation at least legally and I'm sure the Post's lawyers advised the editors that a clarification would be in order.

Now, if I'm Jasno, there's no way in haaayyyuulll I'd print this anywhere without being told to. It was an off-hand comment on a blog that is at fairly well sourced.

I don't usually defend jasno's journalistic integrity, but this stinks.

Posted by: Larry Bud | April 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

It's all well and good until JLC's axe catches the attention of the Redskins multimillion dollar legal affairs department.

My bet is that the axe just lost a bit of its edginess, as JLC runs home with his tail between his legs.

Posted by: Judge Judy | April 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the axe most of you have is you want JlC to dissect who they will pick with the 7th round draft picks.
Yawwwwwnnnnnnn.
keep on disecting among yourselfs and keep the rest of us bored to tears.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

God....I wish my businesses were as "IN THE TANK" as Snyder's.

A little jealous JLC??

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | April 14, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

This blog is no longer "super smart."

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | April 14, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the axe most of you have is you want JlC to dissect who they will pick with the 7th round draft picks.
Yawwwwwnnnnnnn.
keep on disecting among yourselfs and keep the rest of us bored to tears

Actually this isn't the truth at all. What we want is something RELATED to the Redskins in general. Its 2 weeks before the draft, they have a new coach, they have players coming in to visit, they have a bunch of players coming off injury, it shouldn't be that hard to get something to write about.

RC, this you?

Posted by: Greg | April 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Same old boring worthless crap

from the Redskins "insider"

Posted by: jonthefisherman | April 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"As for Six Flags, its stock price fell from around $12 a share to less than $2 a share after Snyder led a hostile takeover of the company in 2005, installing a new CEO and winning shareholder approval to oust the existing directors."

Look, Six Flags is not doing well, but this is another Jasno smear. Before Snyder gained control, the stock was in the $4-$6 range. After he gained control it went to $12. And, yes, today you can buy a share for under $2. But if Snyder gets the blame for the fall, why doesn't he get the credit for the rise?

The second largest shareholder in Six Flags is Bill Gates, the second richest man in the world, and he hasn't sold -- he has some confidence in Snyder.

Six Flags was in big trouble long before Snyder came near it. The stock had taken a long, slow slide from around $30 to the $4-$6 range where Snyder became interested. Much of the value in Six Flags is in its real estate holdings rather than in its operations. That's why it went to $12, and that's why it's tanked to under $2. When real estate rebounds, so will Six Flags.

Jasno really ought to stop blogging about business. My impression is that he doesn't understand it. Barrons magazine did an analysis of Six Flags a few weeks back (recommending against buying the stock), and Jasno ought to just link to that. And when Barrons wants to know about Caps hockey, they can link to Jasno's blog.

The best test of Snyder's business skills was his communications firm, where he became a self-made billionaire. Why not look into that one, Jasno.

And as for the letter from Snyder's mouthpiece, that really stinks. I hope Snyder fires him. That's as likely as Jasno writing something in the blog about the draft.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Calm down people. This is in response to a ridiculous retraction demand by Synder. Of course it is not a post JLC would otherwise make. This is about wapo covering it's arse. Ignore it a move on.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Since theres no information concerning the actual team, could someone post the rest of this story Warapth.

NFL Draft Buzz: Forte, Atchison, Langford
In this installment of the Draft Buzz, see which of these players the Redskins have been showing serious interest in.

If it wasn't for the comments with information provided by the users I would have left this blog a long time ago.

Posted by: RV | April 14, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

RC, this you?

Posted by: Greg | April 14, 2008 3:51 PM

Sorry Greg not me. I doubt I would ever use the word 'yourselfs', even in jest.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 14, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Our careers are in the tank!

Posted by: Mike Vanderjagt & Eric Crouch | April 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

If it wasn't for the comments with information provided by the users I would have left this blog a long time ago.

Posted by: RV | April 14, 2008 3:54 PM

Come for the Redskins, but stay for the jibba-jabba. Works for me.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Jasno, love the job you do but we don't care about Snyder's "other businesses". The fact of the matter is that their free spending ways have caught up to them and the day free agency started they had virtually no money to spend. That's the reason they were and are still not active. Do you really think that if they had $15 million in cap space that they would have just sat by and done nothing. Of course not! Asante Samuel and Alan Fanaca would be in burgundy and gold as we speak, no matter how good or bad Danny's "other business" are doing. Those business ventures have NOTHING to do with the Redskins and you know it. And for the poster above who said we want JLC to dissect 7th round draft picks, damn right we do. That's what this blog is supposed to be here for. To provide information about what the hell the organization,coaches and players are doing!

Posted by: virtueandvice | April 14, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

What did it cost to get that growth? What impact are they actually having in their local market in terms of audience share? If they're winning who are they taking it from? If they're losing who to?

You know, the sort of information you need if you're running a business, not just trying to win an argument.

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 3:39 PM


Wow. That would be a great article to read! Actual facts and figures? You know, the sort of information you need if you want to be taken as a serious reporter.

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree with LarryBud (Time for some new shirts buddy).

WashPost made JLaC write this. When reading it, I could sense the 'Mother is making do this or else she'll take my car for the summer so I'll do it but I won't smile or be happy while doing it' attitude.

He is uhrting the brand by throwing these accusations around without backup and with this downturn in the market, business people are feeling 'bitter' (get it) regarding any negative attention.

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I deserve...

Posted by: Tank | April 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Donavan,

So, slow off season eh? Well I guess that you don't have many player contracts to look at and advise Dan on do you? So what you needed some billable hours to send to the Redskins and started trolling the blogs a while back to look for things to complain about and threaten with bogus complaints?

Did you call JLC's mommy to tell on him?

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Looking at just revenue numbers is misleading, you need to also review expenses. An old financial ploy some companies use - sign deals that inflate revenues, but your expenses increase at the same rate. Many people can't even get a signal from Red Zebra's stations.

Six Flags is currently at $1.54 a share and sliding. Funny that David Donovan would claim Snyder's role with Six Flags as "a stockholder and non-managing Chairman of the Board." Snyder led the proxy fight to oust Kieran Burke, hand selected Mark Shapiro as the CEO, and Snyder was the one to axe Mr. Six, deeming the ad campaign "pointless." Multiple news stories have Snyder and Shapiro bouncing ideas off each other to improve Six Flags. Simple shareholders don't usually decide the company's ad campaigns. Six Flags is in a terrible mess with so much negative press.

Snyder is one of the executive producers for Tom Cruise's $100 million "Valkyrie." Watch the trailer, it has the makings of a box office disaster. Cruise seems so out of place, with a California accent.

Posted by: SnyderSucks | April 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

You guys make me miss Barno...at least he used a little flair and imagination in his silly endless critiques of Janso...

Posted by: chris larRY | April 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I guess that now I answered your question you're not going to provide the data promised then Ryan?

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

If WaPo had made him write this, it would have read a lot better and more legalistic than this. He did it on his own to make us think that Snyder's mouthpiece is a dork. Well, he convinced me of that.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Can we talk Skins fotball, PLEASE....
I think we should ship Jason back to Baltimore....
Leave Skins management alone !!!

Posted by: EdA | April 14, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

ChRis LArrY,

You back from the Caps game? How they looking now? What's your prediction for the series? Philly in 5 or in 6?

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

a hearty FU walking your way TE...thats all I got...this blog zaps me of all humor, creativity and fun...


Posted by: chris larry | April 14, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I wish I had never gotten in that SJKing tank.

Posted by: Michael Dukakis | April 14, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

This can only end badly between JLC and The Danny...

Posted by: Pepper Rogers | April 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"Calm down people. This is in response to a ridiculous retraction demand by Synder. Of course it is not a post JLC would otherwise make. This is about wapo covering it's arse. Ignore it a move on."

He put himself in this situation! The fact is that ever since the coaching search ended , the ratio of axe grinding post to "super smart" post has been way off balance.

Posted by: RIV (Redskins Insider Vendetta) | April 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

a hearty FU walking your way TE...thats all I got...this blog zaps me of all humor, creativity and fun...

Posted by: chris larry | April 14, 2008 4:05 PM

Man, you sound like the Caps I watched on TV yesterday. But this is probably not the real ChriS laRry with this lame use of capitals.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder owns 5,277,612 shares of Six Flags, while Bill Gates owns 10,210,600 shares through his private investment firm Cascade Investment, LLC.

Red Zone, LLC broke up a while back, so Snyder is not the largest shareholder.

Posted by: SnyderSucks | April 14, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Shockingly, Jason LaConfora confused his opinion with facts.

Sounds like you were called on your poor reporting, and were forced to issue this "clarification."

Posted by: Cabraman | April 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I took a duce this afternoon that resembled a middle aged man with a receeding hairline...

...I named it the "Snyder".

Posted by: Gigantic Steamer | April 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Even our laywers suck!

Posted by: Thon | April 14, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Its all me baby....all me...

And I;ll allow the Caps an off game after winning 12 of 13 or whatever it was....

whateves....get back to whining and nitpicking...if thats jibba jabba...I b walking not staying....

Posted by: chrIs larry | April 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

RI droolz
RI drulz some more

Posted by: fillin in fro cHris larrY | April 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

JLC vs. Snyder in a PPV brawl. 2 vertically challenged men throwing girly over the top punches. No wonder he can't get any insider info. No one at the park will talk to him.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

filllin in fro....

Man I wish I had said that well!!!!!!!!!

more rulz
less drulz....pulheeeez!

Posted by: chris lARRy | April 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

JLC vs. Snyder in a PPV brawl. 2 vertically challenged men throwing girly over the top punches. No wonder he can't get any insider info. No one at the park will talk to him.

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:15 PM

I picture it as a three stooges bit, with Larry Michaels as the third.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

maybe they draft that strong kid in 8th round.
no they draft the fast kid in 10th round.
no should draft superstar in 13th round.
Puh-Leeze!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank.

Posted by: The English Language | April 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

All I got to say is where is the football? This is crap!!!!!
What does Redskin Insider mean? You hate the Redskins and all involved. Get back to football or I will stop reading you. And I will pass this on to all my friends and they will stop reading you. Get smart.

Posted by: ccamp63 | April 14, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh no! The blog might lose ccamp63 and his 2 friends?!?!?! Horrors!

Posted by: chris Larry | April 14, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Get back to football or I will stop reading you. And I will pass this on to all my friends and they will stop reading you. Get smart.

Posted by: ccamp63 | April 14, 2008 4:22 PM

Bye then. Say bye to all your 'friends' for us too.

Posted by: unregistered | April 14, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Fill it again.

Posted by: Frank the Tank | April 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

F cHRis LArrY. FLyErs OveR tHe OVecHKIns in 6.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

In a blog entry recently concerning the Redskins' blog "In the Tank", I made reference to David Donovan's lack of work during the redskins quiet off season.

David Donovan, the Redskins' General Counsel, took issue with this and sent a letter to me complaining that the statement unfairly and inaccurately characterized his workload.

The work I had in mind were those contracts with new FA's mainly big name guys, with prominent starter potential. Your Asante's and Moss's. I was not referring to any of Mr. Donovans other contracts that he looked over. My opinion was based on the fact that Redskins have been poor in terms of salary cap and fans have complained about its weak off season, particularly during broadcasts of The Sports Junkies. As for resignings, the vet minimum contracts after Snyder led a hostile takeover of big name players in 2005, installing a new HC and winning approval to oust the existing DC/OC.

Mr. Donovan counters that he has continued to expand in an industry in which other companies are shedding contracts and expects to achieve double-digit contract growth during the draft." He also says that Mr. Snyder neither reads nor writes contracts - he is "a paranoid owner and non-managing Chairman, and a rabid Communist" so it is therefore not his business.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Snyder

according to this is , he is Chairman of the Board. Hes owns Six Flags and some other companies too. Is'nt he and Tom Cruise doing something too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Snyder

according to this is , he is Chairman of the Board. Hes owns Six Flags and some other companies too. Is'nt he and Tom Cruise doing something too.

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:32 PM

They used to co-own United Artists I think.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The weird thing about the lawyer's letter is that Daniel Snyder is not the owner of the Redskins, either. He is the principal owner. But in getting the Redskins lawyer to write this letter, he is stealing from the minority owners -- using a company employee for personal business.

Now I'm not one of the minority owners, and I assume most of them don't read this blog, but the lawyer himself is a lawyer and he should know better than to get himself into this sort of conflict of interest. The letter should have been from Snyder's private lawyer, not the Redskins lawyer. Slimey.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

maybe they draft that strong kid in 8th round.
no they draft the fast kid in 10th round.
no should draft superstar in 13th round.
Puh-Leeze!

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:20 PM

Yeah, especially considering that in the past few years of the draft we have added Reed Doughty, HB Blades, Kedric Gholston, Anthony Monthgomery, Rock Cartwright, Stephon Heyer, and Lorenzo Alexander either in the late rounds or as undrafted free agents. So yeah who cares about the "8th round."

Posted by: RIV | April 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Is the blog party in June going to be as fun as this?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Is this why its been four days between new blog posts? Good grief.

Posted by: jva | April 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Is the blog party in June going to be as fun as this?

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:38 PM

No. There will be alcohol involved.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? and now you know why the washington times got the interview with him.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Is the blog party in June going to be as fun as this?

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:38 PM

Only if you're not there

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

And they were all house hold names when they were drafted or signed, I'm sure you new who they were then right?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Keep up the great work, JLC.

Don't let Mr. Donovan influence your blogging, because Snyder's businesses are "in the tank."

Mr. Donovan, why don't you release Red Zone's expense numbers? Growth numbers don't mean squat, if you can't see the other accounting numbers.

Posted by: SnyderSucks | April 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

As a Six Flags stockholder I can say draft? Huh? Let's get the stock back to $12 and get some large person to play some position on that other team of his.

Posted by: thinker | April 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Alex,

The 4:13 was a nice piece of work. Way to go.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Well I guess my elaborate attempts at satire earlier were a bust. A John Swift I am not.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Well I guess my elaborate attempts at satire earlier were a bust. A John Swift I am not.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

TE noticed. Yay.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

And they were all house hold names when they were drafted or signed, I'm sure you new who they were then right?

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:41 PM

In all honesty I knew about Heyer, Gholston, Blades, and Doughty when they were drafted or signed, but thats a moot point. I ended up following Cartwright since he was one of the players involved in the first draft I watched from start to finish. The fact is those guys ended up contributing to team, and some of those guys have become starters (Doughty and Montgomery) or starters waiting in the wings (Blades). And if history is any indication then chances are the Redskins will find two or three guys either as UDFA or late round picks who will become household names around the beltway. Thats why I care about news concerning possible late round picks.

Posted by: RIV | April 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank

Posted by: Hiliary Clinton | April 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else wish that there was a way to keep track of your total number of posts, I mean full history, over the past few years.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

And they were all house hold names when they were drafted or signed, I'm sure you new who they were then right?

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:41 PM

Right, just like you KNEW the difference between using KNEW(correct), and NEW(moronic) in that sentence

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

"Is'nt he and Tom Cruise doing something too.

They used to co-own United Artists I think."

Snyder is an executive producer for Tom Cruise's "Valkyrie." Snyder lent Cruise and Co. some money to produce a few movies, so far it has been a business disaster. Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner co-own UA with backing from MGM.

Posted by: SnyderSucks | April 14, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

The problem is JLCs opinions -- posted as a moderator to the Redskins Insider blog -- are being represented as fact by other media organizations. They have been repeatedly negative and often unsubstantiated by fact. This is a question of journalistic integrity that in turn affects the reputation of the Washington Post and the Washington Redskins. Not to mention occasionally borders as slanderous to Dan Snyder + the Skins players and coaches.

We all know they are merely opinions. However some of them may in fact violate the terms and conditions for posting to the blog. Namely inappropriate comments and personal attacks against the owner and his businesses.

Personally, I'd prefer to read and comment on positive articles about the Redskins. Constructive criticism and factual reporting is fine too, but this constant negativity is getting old.

Posted by: Siris | April 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I miss that SJK Jack

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'd prefer to read and comment on positive articles about the Redskins. Constructive criticism and factual reporting is fine too, but this constant negativity is getting old.
Posted by: Siris | April 14, 2008 4:50 PM

I Think that you can also blog on articles that he writes, I do.

Well time for me to head home.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank with JLC

Posted by: Roger Clemons | April 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank with JLC

Posted by: Roger Clemons | April 14, 2008 4:53 PM

I also don't know how to spell my own name.

Clemens. Moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

So now reporting on your own reports and the impact they had is considered newsworthy ... this blog is sinking faster than Maurice Clarrett's draft value ...

You didn't happen to come across something related to the draft, free agency, or a trade did you? Nothing? really? nothing?

Though not great, at least they still actually talk about football-related matters here:
http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

Posted by: JasonLikesComplaining | April 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Jason please stick to football, how about some actual skins news?

Posted by: skins news? | April 14, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

ChRis LArrY,

You back from the Caps game?
Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 4:04 PM


Chris Larry always plays the caps game.

Posted by: etrod | April 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? Jasno, did WaPo require you to write some sort of retraction or clarification?

I like the "Position Glances" that you started 4 days ago as we lead into the draft. I assume that it is tough for you to post on RI because of the Caps series, but you have alot of positions to cover and not many days before the draft.

No time for lame posts like this, dude! Focus, man, focus! I am always on your side thinking the posts are good and relevant, but this one stinks worse than a soup kitchen after bean soup night!

Posted by: CBT | April 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

how about some actual skins news?


It's the draft soon and they'll pick some players then they'll sign some players.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Now more than ever,

Posted by: Who farted? This blog stinks | April 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA SKINNYS AND BAET REPROTERS MATCH MAID IN HEVEN ALL YOU BOZO SKINNY CLOWNS CRYING WELL HEAR GOSE UR BOOHOO BOX BOYS R #1 WIT NO FINANCAIL PROBLEMS LIKE U BOZO CLOWNS HAVING KEEP BASHING COMING SKINNYS

HEHEHEHEHEHE

Posted by: BOOFER | April 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The blog is having a tough time getting out of its own drool ...

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | April 14, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I also don't know how to spell my own name.

Clemens. Moron.

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:56 PM

That r y i am in da tank

Posted by: Roger Clemons | April 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

O.K. something has gotta give. j la, so far i have noticed 2 different blogs where you are defending remarks you have made ( this one and the one about the nationals ). One, i like ya and dont want to see remarks like this getting you in hot water. and secondly, I dont care about either 2 of the things your defending against. the post prior to this was done on april 4th. c'mon the draft is coming close. lets get some good blogs goin like in the good ol days. and if you make a comment bashing anything, throw in those stats to begin with and lets try to keep it redskins related. ill click on hockey basketball and baseball stuff if i wanna read about that!

Posted by: Leacher | April 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Man! JLa,

Looks like you won't be getting a holiday fruit basket from the Snyder's this year.

Posted by: C-A-P-S | April 14, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I think it is clear that "in the tank" was absolutely a personal dig at Snyder, because there's no way Jason really believes that Snyder's other businesses have any affect on how he's running the Skins. If he wants to carry that tone on this blog, that's fine and his prerogative, but those of you who defend the author shouldn't pretend that this was anything but an intentional personal attack. I've always been under the impression that both ways these guys don't like each other. I'm sure at some point in the upcoming season, Snyder will dis "some reporter at the Washington Post" again.

Posted by: amcginl00 | April 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, all these defenders of Danny Boy are incredible. I don't care what JLC says about Snyder. I don't care if JLC has an ax to grind (and he sure should considering Snyder holes himself up from the media). The fact remains that this team has done next to nothing with Snyder at the helm, so I say he's due all the criticism that comes his way. I appreciate that Snyder is willing to spend. I don't appreciate that Snyder has zero football intelligence, and so he surrounds himself with a bunch of lackeys who, also, have zero knowledge about football. So Snyder's feelings are hurt. Cry me a river. He should have thicker skin than this if he's such a shrewd businessman. And yes, Six Flags and Johnny Rockets are all doing poorly. Nothing unfair about that comment.

And RV, I seriously question whether you know if Jason is missing all kinds of stories. Do you cover the team? Give the guy a break. We don't need Redskins news every day of the week.

Posted by: Colin | April 14, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I meant effect

Posted by: amcginl00 | April 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA SKINNYS AND BAET REPROTERS MATCH MAID IN HEVEN ALL YOU BOZO SKINNY CLOWNS CRYING WELL HEAR GOSE UR BOOHOO BOX BOYS R #1 WIT NO FINANCAIL PROBLEMS LIKE U BOZO CLOWNS HAVING KEEP BASHING COMING SKINNYS

HEHEHEHEHEHE

Posted by: BOOFER | April 14, 2008 5:04 PM

Your proctologist called...he found your head.

Posted by: Redskin Robbie | April 14, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

AWESOME Stuff Jasno. Stick it to Danny. Let him cry to the post. HHAHAHAHAHAH

Posted by: Go Skins Go | April 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Can't we all get our heads out of our BOOFERs and get along?

Posted by: BOZO SKINNY CLOWN | April 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

One thing to clear up - The Redskins are the 2nd (Thanks BOOFER) highest revenue earning team. He is only principle owner of the Redskins, so he can't transfer money from Redskins to Red Zebra to Six Flags. You can only do that IF you are the sole 100% owner of all companies involved. That's because the ownership structure percentages would change.

To much doom and gloom. Just like the thing about Cap Hell. There is no such thing for the Redskins!

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. I was waiting for some real news.

Oh wai

Posted by: bobzmuda | April 14, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

per post by colin: "We don't need Redskins news every day of the week."
- this is the redskins insider! this is where i come to get my redskins news everyday of the week. i would think a place called the redskins insider would be the place.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Kornheiser does more sports reporting than JLC.

Posted by: Parlett316 | April 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Business Weekly?.......No, Thank You!


Football football and more football please!

Draft?.....Yes, Please!

Redskin Insider?.......Yes, Please!

Insider Info?......Yes, Please!

Petty Gossip? No, Thank you!

JLC's Opinion on anything?.....no, thank you!

Just go and fetch the INFO and bring it back to us so WE can discuss it?.....YES PLEASE!!!!

Posted by: The Art of Monk | April 14, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Odds on Jason LaCanfora on employment and/or coverage with in the next 3 months:

ESPN - 10:1
Redskins Beat Reporter - 5:2
Capitals Beat Reporter - 5:1
Nationals Beat Reporter - 250:1
Baltimore (any sport) Beat Reporter - 50:1
Hockey (any town) Beat Reporter - 5:1
SI.com - 4:1

Posted by: BoDog.com | April 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

news flash, there is not redskins news every day of the week. that is shocking to you i know

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Just like the thing about Cap Hell. There is no such thing for the Redskins!

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 5:35 PM

How about cap heck? Are we in that? Where we have so much dead cap money?

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

JLC has posted more interviews with Eli Manning than Redskin Players.....Go figure?

Posted by: Archie Manning | April 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

We don't need Redskins news every day of the week.

Posted by: Colin | April 14, 2008 5:28 PM

Ummm. This is the Redskins Insider.

Posted by: The Truth | April 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

How about cap heck? Are we in that? Where we have so much dead cap money?

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 5:49 PM

That's all relative. Every team has dead cap space. I think the Giants had over $10 Mil in their SB season. We can't discuss until someone posts what every team's Dead Cap space was for the year. What JLaC posted last week was weak and not efficient enough to draw a conclusion on dead cap space and upfront monies....

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

But unless your fox news, you can't make up news that isn't.

Posted by: The Real Truth | April 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

news flash, there is not redskins news every day of the week. that is shocking to you i know

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 5:45 PM

Well, if you read the Post there's not. But if a reporter goes out there and finds out who's coming in for interviews, talks to the players about how they see the needs, interviews some of the new hires, then there could be news everyday. That's what reporters do. They get stories.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

Do you type these with a bitter scrunched-up face while talking to yourself in whiny little grunts?

Because that is the the image I am getting when I read most of your article.

Posted by: Cliff Claven | April 14, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

Be nice to our kind, sweet Danny Boy.

Posted by: Cliff's Mom | April 14, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

You clearly have some built up anxiety toward Mr. Snyder.

Perhap your in need of professional counseling.

I'm Listening.

Posted by: Dr. Frasier Krane | April 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I have to say this blog does make me sick. I hear more about Jaysons personal life, hate for the redskins, etc. I get on here daily to hear about redskins news when it happens not 2 days later. This is 2 weeks before the draft and we went a couple days without a post and this is what we get? Its a sad day for redskins fan when the blog is being run like this. We all have are own opinons about Danny Boy and I dont need to hear how Jayson thinks this is bad or Synder did this wrong. Lets get a REAL redskins fan running this blog or at least someone who can keep up with day to day activities in a timely fashion.

Posted by: Paul | April 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

"Whaaaaaaaaa JLC hates my team........whaaaaaaaaaa I want to get PR spin as real news.......whaaaaaaaaa I want inside news.......whaaaaaaaaaa I am going to make lame attacks behind fake names......whaaaaaa I am going scold anyone not talking about redskins football in April.......whaaaaaaaaa I want to trash something that used to be fun, informative, funny and friendly......whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa booo hoo whine whine"

BOOFER IS RIGHT WE ARE A BUNCH CRYBABY PANTY-WASTES!

Posted by: typical RI poster lately | April 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Change the Channel and pass he Beer nuts there 's no sports on this blog.

Posted by: Norm Peterson | April 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

He doesn't have skins news to report b/c nobody with the 'skins wants to talk to him. I dislike Snyder and like journalistic freedom. But lots of working people are able to maintain their integrity WHILE maintaining working relationships. The Wiz Insiders do OK with that. Snyder may be a jerk, but some of this is on JLC. Either way, the Post is no longer the best place to go to get 'Skins info. THAT is a fact you can print.

Posted by: ac lurks | April 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Where'd they find a Red Zebra?

Posted by: Woody Boyd | April 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

"Whaaaaaaaaa JLC hates my team........whaaaaaaaaaa I want to get PR spin as real news.......whaaaaaaaaa I want inside news.......whaaaaaaaaaa I am going to make lame attacks behind fake names......whaaaaaa I am going scold anyone not talking about redskins football in April.......whaaaaaaaaa I want to trash something that used to be fun, informative, funny and friendly......whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa booo hoo whine whine"

BOOFER IS RIGHT WE ARE A BUNCH CRYBABY PANTY-WASTES!

Posted by: typical RI poster lately | April 14, 2008 6:03 PM


Typical Jasno post of late: "I hate the Redskins. I hate Danny boy. I hate Vinnie. Let's make up a funny nickname for him. I hate Mathis. I love the Capitals. I love Baltimore. I'm working too hard. I don't have time for this job."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Er-ah, I too have been in the er-ah, drunk tank many times.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy | April 14, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

"And RV, I seriously question whether you know if Jason is missing all kinds of stories. Do you cover the team? Give the guy a break. We don't need Redskins news every day of the week."

Thats fair, and I agree we don't need news everyday of the week, especially since there isn't news that becomes available nearly that often.

However, with that said, there have been at least 18 pre-draft visits by prospects expected to go within the first 3 rounds in the draft. Theres also been other stories like:

The recent fall of Vinny Cerato's favorite Reciever prospect Malcolm Kelly, who the Redskins are meeting with this week according to KFFL.

How about the fact that Joe Bugel showed up to Virginia's pro day to get a look at Branden Albert (which I saw in plain few on NFL Network with Vinny Cerato) or the fact that Bugel is interested in the potential of Virginia Tech Tackle Duane Brown.

Why are the Redskins bringing in so many Running Backs for pre-draft visits (3 so far)? Especially Tulanes Matt Forte and Texas Jamaal Charles? Could this be a sign that the team is trying to move Betts?

Who stood out at the Redskins Local Pro Day a few weeks ago? Would the team consider taking local favorite Owen Schmitt with one of their 3rd round picks.

Trevor Laws apparently had a productive pre-draft visit, and the Redskins are looking for interior line help? Why no mention of Laws?

The Redskins want to trade down, what are their options? Apparently the Falcons, Ravens, or Panthers might want to move back up into the first round to insure that the Dolphins or Packers don't grab Brian Brohm.

Vinny Cerato is apparently friends with Mack Brown and in turn is reportedly interested in possibly selecting Tony Hills with their comp pick.

On top of that JLC is suppose to be an Insider, so he should have access to even more stories. Personally I don't like bias reporting either way. I remember in college I use to watch college coaching shows on FSN since they doubled for me as unintentional comedy where the coaches of teams below .500 would only say nothing more then "yeah he's a good player" or "yeah they did good" or my personal favorite "we're gonna be gud." Why the hell would anyone have a coaches show, its not like the coach can say anything of value, since doing so would be a PR disaster.

On the other hand JLC's constant negativity towards a franchise that made the playoffs last year with a young team is starting to feel like nails on a chalkboard for me. Especially since he isn't reporting relevant info to drown out the constant bashing that we see on this blog. If anything all I ask is that if we're going to get a bunch of stories like this (I believe around 4 or 5 since March 30th) then at least balance it out with some info that relates to the on the field product that the Redskins will field in 2008.

Posted by: RV | April 14, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

well if there isnt redskins news everyday of the week, whats everyone doing right now. redskins radio is able to find something. in the off season, not enough to fill a show, but enough to give listeners to chew on for a bit. i would think a blog a day isnt tough. a few sentences. keep us interested and bring some excitement. the off season of football is brutal enough for us fans. im not arguing any more becouse its as stupid as the posts im already commenting on.

p.s. i realized i forgot to attach my name to the post addressed to colin. i figure if i call someone out, i should attach my name. my appologies on that!

Posted by: leacher | April 14, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

HAHA BOZO SKINNY CLWONS JUMP SHIP AND ROLL WIT BOOFER AND COWBOYS HAHAHA HERE TAKE SOME MORE TISUES FROM UR BOOHOO BOX ROMO OVA CAMBELL ALL DAY BOZOS BAET REPORTER BEATS ON ALL SKINNYS AND DC SPROTS XCEPT HCOKEY COWBOYS NEVA HAEV DRAMA WE JUST WIN WE CAN FIT U BOZOS WIT TO JERSEYS AND U CAN BUY SAESON TICKETS TO ARE NEW 10000000 SEAT STADIUM KEEP CRYING BOZOS

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Posted by: BOOFER | April 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

This is absolutely insane. Dan Snyder might be the biggest tool shed in the history of the world. You run a 1.5 billion dollar empire and you're worried about what JLC has to say on his blog? Get over yourself, dude.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | April 14, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I said i was gonna stop arguing, but i do wanna comment ( i think we tend to get caught up from time to time ). boofer,keep the uppercased misspelled comments coming! im a fan.

Posted by: leacher | April 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"Packers McCarthy: sleeping in office is counterproductive
Whatever NFL coaches wear on the sidelines, they share a legacy of wearing out the same thing: Themselves. They wear themselves out with endless schedules and sleepless nights � and then wear their weariness as badges of honor. "I've worn that badge," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. "I've slept at the office, I've done all those things. I think it's counterproductive. I don't think it works." -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel
"

Slap at Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0? I think so.

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I am in ze tank.

Posted by: Field Marshal Erwin Rommel | April 14, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

"How about the fact that Joe Bugel showed up to Virginia's pro day to get a look at Branden Albert (which I saw in plain view on NFL Network with Vinny Cerato) or the fact that Bugel is interested in the potential of Virginia Tech Tackle Duane Brown."

Ok, that one I'll have to retract since JLC has covered both of those guys.

But the fact that we've been bringing in so many corners for pre-draft visits should warrent the mentioning of the fact that the Redskins have met with Brandon Flowers, Charles Godfrey, and Tracy Porter not to mention Leodis McKelvin. Instead all we get is that CB is a position of interest for the Redskins.

Posted by: RV | April 14, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I need to get out of this tank.

Posted by: Nemo | April 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Slap at Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0? I think so.

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 6:23 PM

No. It probably applies to 3/4 of the coaches in the league. There's always one more thing to be done.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

HAHA BOZO SKINNY CLWONS JUMP SHIP AND ROLL WIT BOOFER AND COWBOYS HAHAHA HERE TAKE SOME MORE TISUES FROM UR BOOHOO BOX ROMO OVA CAMBELL ALL DAY BOZOS BAET REPORTER BEATS ON ALL SKINNYS AND DC SPROTS XCEPT HCOKEY COWBOYS NEVA HAEV DRAMA WE JUST WIN WE CAN FIT U BOZOS WIT TO JERSEYS AND U CAN BUY SAESON TICKETS TO ARE NEW 10000000 SEAT STADIUM KEEP CRYING BOZOS

HEHEHEHEHEHE

Posted by: BOOFER | April 14, 2008 6:14 PM

My dream is in the tank.

Posted by: MLK | April 14, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

good one nemo....


Pre-draft visits are a joke, its not news its gamemanship...not reporting it is a positive b/c the media just gets used to throw teams off what eachother are doing....not to mention they bring all kinds in for visits, or go there.....

Its simply not that interesting...to me anyway...

No I am pro-gamemanship and hope the skins fool everyone....but I dont fault a news outlets (that isnt 24/7 skins...or team-owned)for skipping that "news"....

The draft rulz
pre-draft mis-information mania droolz

Posted by: cHris larry | April 14, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

cHrIs LaRrY rUlZ
prE drAft crAp droOlz

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

now someone speaks truff!

Posted by: CHrIS LarrY | April 14, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

You have to know that if we don't blame Jason for this then the terrorists win.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

My approval ratings are in the tank

Posted by: GWB | April 14, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm like Shrek, I love me some Donkey!

Posted by: chris larry | April 14, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

NFL.com video mock draft selection from John Riggins:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807b54b5

He picks WR Limas Sweed at #21 -- if the top OL have already been taken...

Posted by: Siris | April 14, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

My approval ratings are deeper in tank then even GWB.

Posted by: Congress | April 14, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Pre-draft visits are a joke, its not news its gamemanship...

Posted by: cHris larry | April 14, 2008 6:34 PM

First off, CL, as usual you don't have a clue whether they're gamesmanship or draftsmanship. Why would they spend so much time and money on "gamesmanship?" Every one of these clubs is trying to make a profit.

But assume that, for once, you're right. Why shouldn't the fans know about the gamesmanship? This is something that only a few elite insiders should know? And when someone sets up a blog which he calls "insider" then shouldn't he be reporting his inside knowledge, for people unlike you who have an interest in reading it.

You've been spending too much time on the Caps blog. It's affected your usually clear thinking.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Draftsmanship? Is that like penmanship? I'm sure Snyder sux at that too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

welcome back fake chris larry!

Posted by: chris larry | April 14, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

RV, that was a considerate and thoughtful response, and I appreciate that. Thank you.

Posts about Snyder are Redskins related, but the fact of the matter is simply that there isn't daily Redskins news. And if Jason wants to fill this blog with some non-related or fringe-related Redskins stuff, I say that's OK. We all have to get over ourselves a little bit and understand that Redskins news should be abundant during the season and leading up to the season. But this is a down time, and we should all relax and enjoy the off time until training camp starts.

As for the poster who mentioned Eli Manning, that item was uploaded by the Post sports editor, not by JLC. And it was also on Maske's blog. I think it was placed here so it would get more traffic.

Posted by: Colin | April 14, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

thanks anon p*ssy!

Posted by: Chris larrY | April 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

anon D-bag,

Isn't draftmanship the ability to draw a floor plan for a house?

Posted by: chris larRy | April 14, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

The feud continues. YAWN. Move on?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I am in the tank.

Posted by: Shamu | April 14, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Which Chris Larry is the one I like?

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 4:31 PM

Alex, funny. Makes taking JLC easier.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 14, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

As for the poster who mentioned Eli Manning, that item was uploaded by the Post sports editor, not by JLC. And it was also on Maske's blog. I think it was placed here so it would get more traffic.

Posted by: Colin | April 14, 2008 7:00 PM


Sorry but there is no excuse good enough for posting the Eli Manning Interview.

Posted by: Vince Lombardi | April 14, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

If by the Tank you mean Michael Vick and I his new cell mate. He may be in the.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Alex, funny. Makes taking JLC easier.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 14, 2008 7:28 PM

No. 1 reason I like RI, we got some funny blog regulars on this junk.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

I eat the feces of the Donkeys I make love to......don't you?


JLC does too, this article is the proof.

Posted by: chris Larry | April 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

JLC got in trouble for one of his hack jobs, awesome.

cough once if you almost got fired (crossing fingers)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | April 14, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Slap at Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0? I think so.

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 6:23 PM

No. It probably applies to 3/4 of the coaches in the league. There's always one more thing to be done.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 14, 2008 6:31 PM

You're right. I should have said that 1.0 and 2.0 was included in his slight. Either way -

Hay McCarthy - How many SBs have you won? Now you don't even have a legit franchise QB....

Posted by: 4th | April 14, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Little Danny is such a clown. Dispatching his lawyers over a blog comment? What a crybaby. But the Washington Post is even worse to print this retraction. What are you afraid of? That Danny won't let you cover the team? Trust me, with Vinny picking the players and Zorn coaching them, Danny will be begging you to come cover the team. They'll be lucky to win 5 games next year.

Posted by: Bug Eyes | April 14, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Red Zone's revenue increase: yes, they grew from $1M to $10M. However, all of that increase came from money the Redskins paid them. Danny took money out of his left pocket and put it in his right pocket. If you think that takes great business acumen, you're a bigger tool than Snyder.

Posted by: Bug Eyes | April 14, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Do you notice how quickly Danny sends his lawyers after a blog comment, but Danny's never said anything at all about the poor little girl who got her legs cut off on a ride at Six Flags because the management decided not to perform the maintenance on the ride?

He's a lousy human being. But he's an even worse NFL owner.

Posted by: Johnny Rocket | April 14, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

this blog has gone from petty to boring to pointless. this is not skins news...or any news at all

Posted by: enoughalready | April 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

All I got to say is where is the football? This is crap!!!!!
What does Redskin Insider mean? You hate the Redskins and all involved. Get back to football or I will stop reading you. And I will pass this on to all my friends and they will stop reading you. Get smart.

Posted by: ccamp63 | April 14, 2008 4:22 PM

Oh no! The blog might lose ccamp63 and his 2 friends?!?!?! Horrors!

Posted by: chris Larry | April 14, 2008 4:24 PM

Here's the disclaimer, not me.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I've been in the tank for 40 years. And nevermind what the commercials say...it's stinks.

Posted by: Ty-D-Bol Man | April 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame Synder for siccing the dogs on Jasno for his poorly researched comments. This blog has had the same issue with Jasno. Now, Jasno is eating his words, but pretending otherwise, instead of reporting on the Skins. BORING! BORING! BORING! Where does a person get some decent Skins info these days? This blog is a buzzard buffet.

Posted by: chris_zz | April 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

anon D-bag,

Isn't draftmanship the ability to draw a floor plan for a house?

Posted by: chris larRy | April 14, 2008 7:03 PM

numb nuts,

Yeah, that's one of the meanings. Another is the ability to design a clever draft strategy. Let me know the next time you need help with the English language, which is probably any time from now.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: BOOFER | April 14, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder probably has a big, long, red sports car that he can show off for the ladiezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Posted by: Brian | April 14, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

anon SJK-heel,

Really...I don't even think Mel Kiper uses that word for GM planning the draft...

buy hey keep up that certitude....committed to being wrong is a noble trait...

Posted by: chris lArry | April 14, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Where does a person get some decent Skins info these days? This blog is a buzzard buffet.

Posted by: chris_zz | April 14, 2008 8:16 PM

Chris, you need to go to the Steelers Web side:

BTSC Mock Draft - Pick #21 by Washington Redskins: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
By Blitzburgh
Posted on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:45:58 PM EDT

New contributor frankrmineo impresses with his first lengthy contribution on BTSC with the Washington Reskins' selection at #21. I like the pick, and I certainly like the evaluation of the Redskins' needs. Well done, sir. Next up? Terry, represting the Dallas Cowboys


Redskins' Roster Breakdown:

Quarterback: The Redskins seem to have confidence in Jason Cambell although many league insiders are not sure that he will ever develop into a great NFL quarterback, and many believe that Jim Zorn's new West Coast offense is a poor fit for his style of play (long vertical passes as opposed to shorter, timing throws). The Redskins re-signed veteran Todd Collins to be Campbell's primary backup, so it is highly unlikely that the Redskins will devote a first round pick to QB.

Running Back: Running Back is another area that the Redskins should be set at, and I would be surprised to see them use a high pick here. With Clinton Portis, and Ladell Betts both inked to long term deals, and with the re-signing of Rock Cartwright, the Redskins have a solid core group of running backs.

Secondary: With the tragic death of Pro-Bowler Shawn Taylor, safety is a major need for the Redskins. The Redskins may wait until later in the draft to look for a safety to replace Taylor. Defensive Back is also a need as Shawn Springs is upset over his contract situation and the fact that he will be 33 years old means the Redskins need to provide some depth at the position sooner rather than later.

Offensive Line: The interior of the Redskins Offensive line seems shored up with veterans Casey Rabach, Pete Kendall, and Randy Thomas all expected to be starters next season. The only concern with the interior line was injuries that sidelined Thomas for almost the entire season. The Redskins have good depth at these positions and a high round draft pick seems unlikely. The tackle positions have been solid in the past for the Redskins with Jon Jansen and Chris Samuels both contributing consistently for many years for the team. The only issue there was a season ending injury in week one to Jon Jansen, and although he should be ready for the start of the season, the Redskins do need to start thinking about eventual replacements for Jansen and Samuels as they are both over 30. Unless a stud falls into the Redskins lap, a first round draft pick on the offensive line would be a surprise to me.
Defensive Line: The Redskins could improve on the defensive line. At defensive end they have a rising star in Andre Carter who proved to be a force in 2007. They also have a solid veteran, Phillip Daniels who has 12 years of experience including four years spent with new Defensive Coordinator Greg Blache in Chicago. A replacement for Daniels could certainly be in the cards as his age (34) is a concern. Defensive Tackle is probably the Redskins biggest area for improvement in the draft. Currently they have Anthony Montgomery, Kedric Golston, Cornelius Griffin, and Lorenzo Alexander but they do not have a shut down run stopper and the early part of the draft could be the place where the Redskins choose to address this need.

Tight End/Fullback: Tight end is another area that a first day pick is not warranted. Chris Cooley has been signed to a multi-year contract and should be considered one of the top tight ends in the league, although he is frequently left out of such discussions. At back-up the Redskins have Todd Yoder a skilled 8 year veteran that is familiar with the West Coast offense. The Fullback Position should have an increased roll this season due to the new system. Mike Sellers is a Pro-Bowl fullback and should figure prominently into the new system, but the backup roll is incredibly thin. I would expect the team to spend a second day pick trying to find some insurance for Sellers.

Kicker/Punter: The Redskins liked what they saw out of newcomer Shaun Suisham and resigned his services for another year. Derrick Frost did well for the team at punter and it would be more than surprising if the Redskins used a first day draft pick on either of these positions. (But hey I wouldn't put anything past Dan Synder).

Linebackers: The Redskins got a great deal last off-season when they signed 10 year veteran London Fletcher from the Bills. Fletcher led the team with 156 tackles and also added three interceptions and a forced fumble. Rocky McIntosh emerged as a star last season in his second year and if he can return from his late season injury I think all expect great things from him.

Wide Receiver: Outside of a Defensive Tackle, Wide Receiver might be another area that the Redskins could focus on in the early parts of the draft. The Redskins have Santana Moss who had a breakout year in 2005 but hasn't been very good since. The also have former Steeler Antwaan Randel-El on the roster who has filled in as a decent number two receiver. The team really needs a big receiver who can catch passes in the middle of the field in order to utilize the new offense. I wouldn't be surprised if the Redskins used their 1st pick on a receiver.

Pick:

The top two players left on the board of a few rankings I looked at would have the Redskins targeting either Mike Jenkins, the cornerback from South Florida, or possibly Quinten Groves the defensive end from Auburn. Mike Jenkins had some off the field issues that have moved him from one of the top CB's in the draft to somewhat of a gamble in the Roger Godell era of the NFL, but given the Redskins past they may be likely to take a gamble on Jenkins. Groves may have the talent, but his shaky season last year and the new information about a heart surgery could push him out of the first round..

Overall the Redskins need help in their secondary, Shawn Springs is getting older and they need talent and youth at the position. Jenkins would be a steal at number 21 as some mock draft have him as high as number 10 overall.

So, with the 21st pick, the Redskins take Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 14, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

chris_zz, it's sad to say, but if you want to read redskins news you have to go to redskins.com or read the washington times.
People claim there is no news for JLC to report, yet these two sites seem to have redskins news on a daily basis.

Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

certitude....committed to being wrong is a noble trait...

Posted by: chris lArry | April 14, 2008 8:40 PM

Maybe in others, but it looks pretty bad the way you practice it.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Jasno has been blacklisted... Cindy, I bet he'd enjoy covering the United or the real estate in Maryland.

Posted by: Dorf | April 14, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Jasno has been blacklisted... Cindy, I bet he'd enjoy covering the United or the real estate in Maryland.

Posted by: Dorf | April 14, 2008 9:07 PM

Are you kidding. He's going to get a promotion for getting Snyders knickers in a knot. This is the sort of stuff that makes a guy's career at the Post. Now, let's hope the Post replaces him with someone who's interested in the Redskins.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

say, any of you tonsill ticklers know where I can find a juicy bacon burger with pepper jack cheese?

Posted by: daveb55 | April 14, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

From tomorrow's WaPo paper:

Kelly said he had 40-yard dash times of 4.5 seconds and 4.47 seconds in another recent workout. To allay concerns about his speed, Kelly would be willing to run again for any team, his agent told reporters after the workout at Oklahoma.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 14, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

http://redskins101.blogspot.com/

Started my mock draft series

Posted by: KW | April 14, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

JCL when you get put in the tank by your own paper maybe you can work as a parking attendant @ Fed-ex field. You are the worst Redskin beat writer ever. You make Peter Vescey look like Walter Cronkite. You will be another addition to unemployment numbers before the 08 Season.

Posted by: Ramon Cumia | April 14, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Which do I love more? Hmmm


Alienating my Readers vs. Bagging on Snyder


Why choose when I can do both! =)

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 14, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Why choose when I can do both! =)

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | April 14, 2008 10:26 PM

Jasno, now that is a funny post. LMAO!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 14, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

being called an idiot on Redskins Insider is like being called slow by the 40-year old retarded guy who rides around my neighborhood on a bike tricycle.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Are Switching Sides
As Draft Weekend Approaches, Focus Turns to Offensive Needs
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402483.html

Now that was a good article. Good quotes from Vinny and the commitment to towards drafting the best player available were all what I've come to expect from JLC over the years. Of course it could also be a dog and pony show for the fans with the "best player available" talk, but at this point all we can do is take their word for it and wait for draft day to come. And if anything they choose to take a BPA approach last year by taking Landry over Amobi and Carriker.

Posted by: RIV | April 14, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 14, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

This blog officially died. Wonder who is next in line to write it.

You wanna know why this blog is so negative? Because of the person who writes it.

Posted by: John Connor | April 14, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Gurgle.....Gurgle......Gaaaaaaaaasp!

Xp

Posted by: The Redskin Insider Blog | April 14, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

The Answer is: "In the Tank"

Posted by: Alex Trabek | April 14, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad some guy who's never posted here before has made the official call on the RI's pulse.

Paging Dr. Connor.

You're a dbag.

Posted by: Dorf | April 14, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

What is the title of the blog that killed the Redskins Insider?

Posted by: Jeopardy Contestant | April 14, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Correct!!

Posted by: Alex Trabeck | April 14, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

________________________________________

Posted by: Blog Pulse | April 14, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

touché

Posted by: Dorf | April 14, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm proud of Jason for printing the truth, no matter how much little Danny jumps up and down, crying and screaming. All these Snyder sack-lickers can barely string a sentence together, and they criticize you?

Danny the Dwarf is short, greedy, and too power-mad to realize he's destroyed the once-great Skins. The Skins are an NFL joke! And they aren't getting better as long as ol' bug-eyed Vinny is in charge.

Keep it up, Jasno!

Posted by: Little Danny the Dwarf | April 14, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Gurgle.....Gurgle......Gaaaaaaaaasp!

Xp

Posted by: The Redskin Insider Blog | April 14, 2008 11:05 PM

LMFAO, thats too funny.

Posted by: RIV (Redskins Insider Vendeta) | April 14, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Just another onslaught of haters from Extreme Skins or whatever.

I wish any one of these critics could explain WHY their collective panties are in such a wad, so we could have a productive conversation (as if).

So the Redskins beat writer has a beef with the front office, an axe to grind, and grind it he does, on his blog. He is critical of the team. And the quantity of inside information on the team he provides, and the frequency he provides it, are regarded as insufficient, to the point of dereliction of duty. Because this blog is SUPPOSED to be [fill in blank with whatever YOUR OPINION is of the purpose of this blog].

I'll grant you all that. So what, I ask? What does it matter if everything stated above is absolutely "true"?

Are you upset because you think the Washington Post is missing an opportunity to have better coverage of the Skins than it does, because it offers this clearly insufficient blog?

What exactly would you stand to benefit if things were different, if Jason La Canfora and the editors wrote this blog differently, or if another writer "officially" shared the blog or took it over completely? What, in your ideal state, would this blog be and do?

What the hell are you complaining about, exactly?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

I bet little Danny made all his employees stop preparing for the draft and come here to post lame comments criticizing Jason instead.

I bet the illiterate comments are from Vinny...

Posted by: Vinny's the team beyatch | April 14, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

The fanboys on ExtremeSkins would wet their pants if Snyder threw his own poo at them. The mods are such complete d-bags they actually thank Snyder for watering down the beer so they don't get so drunk that they miss the latest heartbreaking loss. Clowns.

Posted by: ES blows | April 14, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Being called an idiot on Redskins Insider is like being called a slowpoke by Malcolm Kelly.

Posted by: Aquib Talib | April 14, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

"Vendetta" is usually spelled with two "t"s.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

being called an idiot on redskins insider is like being called super smart on extreme skins...

Posted by: chris larry | April 14, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm proud of Jason for printing the truth, no matter how much little Danny jumps up and down, crying and screaming. All these Snyder sack-lickers can barely string a sentence together, and they criticize you?

Danny the Dwarf is short, greedy, and too power-mad to realize he's destroyed the once-great Skins. The Skins are an NFL joke! And they aren't getting better as long as ol' bug-eyed Vinny is in charge.

Keep it up, Jasno!

Posted by: Little Danny the Dwarf | April 14, 2008 11:14 PM

Im not short

Posted by: Big Danny the Giant | April 14, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

This blog officially died. Wonder who is next in line to write it.

You wanna know why this blog is so negative? Because of the person who writes it.

Posted by: John Connor | April 14, 2008 10:55 PM

Me

Posted by: Dave Campo | April 14, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

What the hell are you complaining about, exactly?

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 11:22 PM

Are you slow? Can't comprehend? I think that it was made obvious on what the complaining was about! Exactly!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

This blog is so anti-Redskins that it's become a parody of itself. Post, you should be ashamed.

Posted by: Skudge | April 14, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

sure are a lot of geeks up here

Posted by: DLT | April 14, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

sure are a lot of geeks up here

Posted by: DLT | April 14, 2008 11:52 PM

im gunna hack u

Posted by: Souper Bad | April 14, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the clarification, douchebag at 11:38!

exactly!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

sure are a lot of geeks up here

Posted by: DLT | April 15, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

broken or dead?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Why are all of you complaining about the complainers? Like it matters what you think.

SJK, now I'm complaining about the complainers complaining!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Being called an idiot on Redskins Insider is like being called a criminal by Pacman Jones.

Posted by: Chris Henry | April 15, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

keep it up jason. despite that this post was simply an elaborate retraction, we still need a critical eye cast on our hometown team. a few good moves this offseason still have to pan out in order to begin to erase what has been an obvious lack of common sense in how this team has been run for the past ten years.

expect the excellence that danny's paid for. until we get it, i believe it's very much called for that jason's bloggings be critical. at the same time, i do think they have begun to border on pervasive negativity. if there was anything actually going on down at redskins park, maybe that would be different. (does anyone else get the feeling that instead of his normal spending spree, the illustrious mr. snyder has spent the entire offseason with fingers in his ears saying "la la la -- i can't hear you!"?)


on another note, for those that thought gibbs 2.0 was an underachiever, PFW has an article that paints his recent tenure in a little different light based on the draft picks the 'skins had available to them:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2008/recapintro.htm

Posted by: reality check | April 15, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

reality check

Right. PFW says the 'Skins did well despite having no draft picks. Well the reason we had no draft picks was because of Gibbs. He traded them for Brunell, Campbell, Duckett, Lloyd. So what did the article prove? Gibbs did okay despite being a total screw-up?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 5:09 AM | Report abuse

HERE IS A LINK TO A NEW ARTICLE BY JASON LACANFORA AND JASON REID.

IT IS REAL NEWS.

IT IS ABOUT THE DRAFT.

SHUT UP AND READ IT.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402483.html

(thank you)

Posted by: NEWS FLASH! | April 15, 2008 5:10 AM | Report abuse

Mess with the bull and get the horns.

Posted by: Gnome | April 15, 2008 5:51 AM | Report abuse

HERE IS A LINK TO A NEW ARTICLE BY JASON LACANFORA AND JASON REID.

IT IS REAL NEWS.

IT IS ABOUT THE DRAFT.

SHUT UP AND READ IT.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402483.html

(thank you)

Posted by: NEWS FLASH! | April 15, 2008 6:12 AM | Report abuse

So basically Jason Reid wrote it and Jasno strong armed the new guy into putting his name on the article.
He's a loose cannon Cindy. If you were really running the show you would demand for his laptop and blue-tooth to be on your desk by the end of the day.

I think the 80's and early 90's really beat the cop-comedy movie genre to death.

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Any news on Madden 2009?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 15, 2008 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Vendetta
Canfora can't stop writing
"'Skins: Evil Empire!"

Posted by: RV | April 15, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Wow! The draft is two weeks away. NFL schedule comes out today. And this is what we get!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Any news on Madden 2009?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 15, 2008 6:36 AM

Yes in the new edition John Madden and Al Michaels make barnyard animal and sex noises rather than do color commentary.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 15, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Wow! The draft is two weeks away. NFL schedule comes out today. And this is what we get!!!

Posted by: | April 15, 2008 7:36 AM

Posted by: jm220 | April 15, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Can we at least get a Caps post?

Posted by: Ted L. | April 15, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

wow....just wow....even good natured dudes like Dorf and Jm220 turning on Janso....

A new era has begun, and ugly public break-up

Posted by: chris larrY | April 15, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

You got to agree with us on this one CL.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

HA ha !

Posted by: nelson | April 15, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Yes in the new edition John Madden and Al Michaels make barnyard animal and sex noises rather than do color commentary.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 15, 2008 7:39 AM

Wow...did I just jump over to Craigslist?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 15, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Good morning everyone!

Posted by: Red | April 15, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

has anyone seen my rag?

Posted by: Nate with the PMS | April 8, 2008 9:37 PM

This was the funniest post from yesterday, and I know humor.

Posted by: Dane Cook | April 9, 2008 6:45 AM

Posted by: unregistered | April 15, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Who knew registration was so important??

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Looks like there is no Redskins news lately. Man, I hate the offseason! Too bad I'm not in to the draft like some of the posters here. I care about the draft and all, but I just want to see them draft smart and coach em' up to be a blood drinking beast. Thats it! Me personally I think it's a waste of time to analyze draft prospects becuase you'll never know how they pan out. But I guess it helps time pass between now and September, so ramble on... ramble on... maps, such as, and like.

Posted by: Red | April 15, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm with you Red. Past assessing position needs, it makes no sense to assign picks to teams past the top 10 or so because you never know how the draft will play out. This pre-draft criticism and detailed analysis is arbitrary. Especially since after the draft, more criticism and analysis abounds. But at least then, you know who's going to your team.

Posted by: Nico | April 15, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

"With weak-side linebacker Rocky McIntosh recovering from reconstructive knee surgery, the Redskins are expected to draft an outside linebacker. The Redskins have expressed optimism about McIntosh being ready to start the 2008 season, but McIntosh also has a potentially degenerative condition in both knees. Mayo, who also declared for the draft after his junior year, was a weak-side linebacker in his first two years at Tennessee and switched to middle linebacker before last season. Mayo (6-1, 242) led the Volunteers with 140 tackles last season."

Mayo may be the best pick at 21. He could play in Rocky's spot til he's ready to come back. He has experience in the middle for when London retires (and who's to say Blades isn't a career backup slash STs player), but might also play strong side - Marcus' days may be up sooner than later. Taking an OLman or DLman means we take the 6th or 8th best, but Mayo would be the 2nd LB off the board. He might be the one player at 21 who's a potential pro bowler.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 15, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Wow . . . just wow!

Posted by: Echo | April 15, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

I wish they had buried me in the tank.

Posted by: General Patton | April 15, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Danny Snyder came to town a-riding an Explorer
Stiffed a writer at the Post and called him LaCanfora

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Taking an OLman or DLman means we take the 6th or 8th best

Not sure that this is entirely accurate. Lets say that Otah is there at 21, or Williams is there, that means the team could draft the 2nd or 3rd best OL player.

If Balmer is there at 21, he's rated the 3rd best DT on the board.

6th or 8th best is a long stretch. If the Redskins trade out of the 21 spot, then sure, I agree, but if, and only if.

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Can we at least get a Caps post?

Posted by: Ted L. | April 15, 2008 7:53 AM

Ovie Won Kenobi - you're our only hope!

Posted by: Leia | April 15, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Lets say that Otah is there at 21, or Williams is there, that means the team could draft the 2nd or 3rd best OL player.

If Balmer is there at 21, he's rated the 3rd best DT on the board.

6th or 8th best is a long stretch. If the Redskins trade out of the 21 spot, then sure, I agree, but if, and only if.

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 8:53 AM

There's questions about Balmer, though. And maybe Vinnie likes him. I'd feel better about Merling if he were there. And of course if Otah or Albert falls, grab 'em. I'm just figuring on them not being there and thinking who would be value at 21. And I do think LB is a need. The OL and the DL both need to get younger, but with London and Marcus there, so does the LB corp.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

In other words, if Otah's there I'd say, hold the Mayo.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 15, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I read Dorf's post early as being heavy on satire and non-existent on criticism of JLaC.

But maybe that's just my pollyanna-ish nature coming through.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Adam (EaglesFan), if you're lurking ping me at usredcoat at gmail dot com.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder spent more money on his attorney drafting a stupid letter than he has on free agency!

Zinger

Posted by: bingbongbing | April 15, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Taking the 2nd or 3rd rated LB does not mean you are getting a better player than the 4th or 5th rated OL or DL player. Since we have to upgrade many position, at minimum get younger, than you go for best player available. Can't just go with where that player is rated at his position, but their overall rating.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 15, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Taking the 2nd or 3rd rated LB does not mean you are getting a better player than the 4th or 5th rated OL or DL player. Since we have to upgrade many position, at minimum get younger, than you go for best player available. Can't just go with where that player is rated at his position, but their overall rating.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 15, 2008 9:20 AM


I hate to oversimplify it and use a Madden reference but I see it like when you are in a Madden draft. Stay in that menu that lists all the draftable players at the same time and just grab from the top five of that list rather than go to a position listing, clearly if the number one player available is a TE we don't need to get them but, thats about it. Lets say it was a QB? I would consider picking up another 1st rounder at that spot, even though I think Campbell will work out you can never be sure so get as many of them as you can, like Cleveland has done over the past few years.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 15, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Cleary, I was saying (typing?) that tongue in cheek. I am a coked up hamster. I do not bite the hand that feeds me.

I understand the nature of Jasno's job and although the blog is very popular, it is not his 1st priority.

I have never understood "super" fans that expect him to "report news" when really all there is to do is speculate and mock draft us to death for the next few weeks. Buy the $0.35 edition on your way to work and read an article or two.
Last year was mo' fun because of a excess of "news," less people practicing the act of douchebaggery and more ITAing taking place.

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Dorf, I remember those days thats when I got started as a regular. Remember when we hit the ultimatum 100,000? Good days.

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 15, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I suggested to Cindy that she give the draft-geeks a little treehouse post where they can speculate away to their heart's content.

Maybe that would stop them descending on all other threads with their "where is my draft speculation/'news'?" flames like some bunch of monomaniacal coked up hamsters.

With beer, of course.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Took a long weekend and I am just getting caught up. Here are my thoughts on the latest shabingus:
- Looks like Danny does look at this blog, or at least has someone watch it and report to him. Maybe those folks on here who rant about what they want draft/personnell/whatever-wise and act like the FO is listening may actually be onto something.
- I never have a problem with what Jasno posts; just need to keep perspective in mind. So what if you don't like what he says. Just get over it. Still plenty of good jibba-jabba up here. Having said that, it does look more than ever like he is or is going to be on the outs as far as inside info goes. I love the blog and love posting, but maybe the other Jason should start emailing the CIndy with more updates....we could definitley use some more insider reporting....
- I still think we need a stud pass rusher with our first pick; doesn't matter if it's an end, tackle or linebacker....

Posted by: dlhaze | April 15, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

What happened to that guy that was hawking his own blog to us? Maybe the disgruntles can move over to that website.

As for me, the Dorf abides.

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the clarification Dorf...I missed the sarcasm....its been brutal up here....my comedydar is askew.....

last season jibba jabba roolz
this season's jibba jabba droolz

Posted by: cHris larry | April 15, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

C'mon cL, it'll be what we make of it.

Why don't we do the whole show right here?!

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, that was a bit of a Mickey Rooney/Judy Garland moment....

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I was hoping to get a conversation/debate going on the greatest cop-comedy movies of all time.

I submit to you:

48 hours
Lethal Weapon 3
Police Academy 2
Kindergarten Cop
Rush Hour
Beverly Hills Cop
Hot Fuzz (sentimental choice)

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Maybe someboday already posted this over the weekend, but HOORAY!:

Bryant Gumbel has decided to give up his duties as the play-by-play voice for the NFL Network's eight-game package of NFL games, NFL Network announced Firday. Gumbel served as the play-by-play announcer for NFL Network's Thursday and Saturday Night Football games for the past two seasons.

Man was he terrible as a play by play guy. Oh sorry.....it would "appear" that he was terrible, and it "looks like" he may be quitting....what a tool.

Posted by: dlhaze | April 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I don't get it...

Posted by: Alex35332 | April 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

last season jibba jabba roolz
this season's jibba jabba droolz

Posted by: cHris larry | April 15, 2008 9:57 AM

ChriS LARry's contribution to the jibba jabba:

fight, whine, criticize, complain, Caps, whine, complain, criticize, fight, Caps, whine, coplain, fight, criticize, Caps.

Nothin' but noise from CL. F CL and the Cap he rode in on.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Naked Gun - best cop comedy of all time.

Posted by: dlhaze | April 15, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I would add Mitchell! to your list Dorf, even though it was unintentionally funny. The MST3K episode with that one is one of their funniest IMO.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Good call dlhaze. Does that mean we can include the TV Police Squad show too? If we can then we have to include Barney Miller.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Curzon417 and Matt:
Thanks for the posts to info on Skins. And, it's good that Jasno finally wrote something today about the Skins, altho the piece was thin. It's clear that he's not digging very hard for inside info. I get more info from bloggers here than from the Post... depressing thought.

Posted by: chris_zz | April 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

F the CL hater at 10:07.

You're a disgrace to the name " ".

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

You're a disgrace to the name " ".

Posted by: | April 15, 2008 10:21 AM

We are family....

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Insider,
Home of the Jibba Jabba!
Not for Redskins news?

Posted by: The Regulars at RI | April 15, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I read Dorf's post early as being heavy on satire and non-existent on criticism of JLaC.

But maybe that's just my pollyanna-ish nature coming through.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 9:12 AM

No, you're right. Being on here so long, you can tell who the serious ones are.....

Posted by: 4th | April 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Whew thank god that was cleared up by Mr. Snyders minions. Zing he really burned you JLa. After all "expecting" double digit growth is the same attaining it and Mr. Snyder doesn't manage Six Flags and therefore your point about him not spending money isn't valid. Everyone knows only stockholders who manage the company lose money when the share price goes down.

How could we all have been so naive to have beleived you? I bet Mr. Donovan thought the class "Defend your boss' Megolomania from bloggers" that he took in law school was a total waste of time until today.

Posted by: Skinz | April 15, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: BOOFER | April 15, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

How could I forget Naked Gun?

4th, does that mean I am serious? Or not?

I am good natured for sure. And some would call me super-smart.

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Good article in the Times today about Anthony Mix. Amazing too, I mean considering that there is nothing going on, and nothing to talk about? Its weird really....

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

if you like it so much, go hang out over there!

Jasno, just whip up some article on... oh say, Carlos Rodgers. Haven't heard about him in a while. How's his rehab doing? Are he and Rocky going to be ready for a play off push next year?

Elfin just picked a guy to write about and asked some questions. There is plenty of information out there if you're so news starved. If you don't like it here, quit complaining and troll somewhere else.

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=actionbuddycomedy.htm

Here are some FACTS, Dorf!

Posted by: | April 15, 2008 10:53 AM

Nice to see Gardner, Rod languishing down at #63 on that list. It has to be said once you get past about #15 there is some complete and utter dross on there!

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

It really has come to something when even mild-mannered Dorf gets inflamed about this stuff.

Come on you "Jasno-hates Snyder so I hate him, any Skins news is good news, I think the Times coverage is much better than WaPo's, etc, etc" guys, how about giving it a break for a while. Huh?

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Dorf, all I'm saying is that the excuses people are making for the lack of posts, that there is nothing going on, is in fact incorrect.

abide this...(grabs crotch)

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Please don't correct me, it sickens me.

I do not abide.

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

It seems Greg that there are a bunch of posters here who don't care that there isn't any 'news' on here right now and a bunch that do care.

The "do's" are insisting that they should get their 'news' here too because it's being posted somewhere else. The "don'ts" don't care but are getting worn down by the endless "where's my news" posts.

Dorf's suggestion is eminently sensible; if you're finding what you seek elsewhere why not stay there and post there? When threads are to your liking here come back and post away, but there's simply no point berating everyone on here, including Jasno just because it isn't the way the "do's" think it should be.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

You taking control of what we can talk about? I thought we resolved that at Yorktown. And, you're free to introduce a topic to discuss if you'd like.

The Elfin article was worthwhile and what I never understood is why Gibbs/Saunders never put him in the game and threw him the ball. Vinnie went out and stole the guy at Jason Campbell's suggestion, but we still don't know what he can do in a game. Instead, Gibbs/Saunders were throwing to guys that we didn't even like enough to re-sign for next year. They couldn't see any further than the tips of their noses.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Don't come to Redskins Insider and expect to hear or talk about the Redskins. This place is reserved for Caps news, and jibba jabba for the RI regulars. Go someplace else for any Redskins news. We don't want it here.

Posted by: The Regulars at RI | April 15, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

RC, all I'm asking is that people stop saying there is nothing to report about. Suggesting that there is nothign to report about is eminently foolish. I find it eminently humorous that a dolphins fan is suggesting to me where and where not to post, on a Redskins blog? Me being the Redskins fan.

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Tongue in cheek t_e or merely fanning the flames of controversy?

I was simply pitching-in in support of Dorf. Many posters seem to have disappeared from the blog, and not just because it's off-season. It's become increasingly ugly 'up here' and that seems a shame. There appears to me to be a remedy, but sadly some people would rather turn up and complain (again) about the the usual stuff (again).

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Nice article Greg. Thanks. Hopefully he gets a fair chance to prove if he is able to play in this league.

Even if we draft a WR, he is big enough to be a possession receiver. And he can play Teams.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

but sadly some people would rather turn up and complain (again) about the the usual stuff (again).

Aren't you yourself guilty of doing the very thing that you're complaining about?

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Whats up hammies...happy Monday. Sox took 2/3 from the yanks, what more could one ask for.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | April 14, 2008 8:52 AM

Maybe to get the Ortiz jersey back?

Too much reading for me to catch up btwn Greg's post yesterday morning and today, so I will shut up (probably).

I think the schedule for next season is supposed to be announced at 2pm today. Did someone already mention that?

Posted by: dcsween | April 15, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

if you're finding what you seek elsewhere why not stay there and post there?

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:09 AM

Because we like the jibba-jabba here. We know people here. It's like Cheers, "where everybody knows your name."

You probably never read a little book, Exit, Voice, and Loyalty. (I didn't either, now that I think about it, but I read enough reviews to understand the poing.) The argument is, simply, that if you don't like what's going on you can leave (exit) or you can voice your opinion. Which you choose depends on the degree of loyalty you feel to the institution. Well we all feel loyal to RI, because we've invested a lot in it. That's why we don't leave, and that's why we voice our displeasure.

And, yes, you can voice your displeasure with us for voicing our displeasure. Although the same argument applies to you that you're laying on us: if you don't like us complaining, then why don't you go to another blog where people don't complain? It's entirely symmetric. Or, "anything you say to me goes double for you."

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 15, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Interesting article by JLC and JR today. Cerrato mentions more than once how the coaches are all on the same page and no one's making any demands for a certain player they have to have. Think that might be a between the lines glimpse at what it was like to work with Gregg Williams or just emphasizing that they've got a good working relationship going with the current staff?

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | April 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Mix has been discussed by posters, in the print edition and on the blog...thats hardly news or a scoop......

Posted by: chris larrY | April 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Somebody call the wa-ambulance. Lotta crybabies up in here.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

RC, I hear what you are saying. It seemed that at the end of the last thread that things had calmed down quite a bit. Football talk, jibba jabba going on, not too much "infighting". Then this thread comes out and it starts all over.

Just sayin' that sometimes the flames just need a little fanning to get going again. Especially with the strong personallities here.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

With the 2008 schedule will come a new wave of predictions!

And road trip plans, for some of us.

Bring on the schedule!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Suggesting that there is nothign to report about is eminently foolish. I find it eminently humorous that a dolphins fan is suggesting to me where and where not to post, on a Redskins blog? Me being the Redskins fan.

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 11:14 AM

Point taken Greg, but as has been noted ad nauseum that very news is available elsewhere, why does it have to be here too?
As Nate mentioned the other day, this blog went 'off piste' on the very first thread and probably always will.

I appreciate the irony of my indicating where you ought to post, but it was merely a friendly suggestion to try to spare yourself and any other posters similarly affected the angst of coming here and not finding what you hoped to find. Which then causes them to feel like they need to dissipate the angst by complaining about it and off we go again....

It seems apparent to me that Jasno's performance on this blog IS in line with what the WaPo expects from him and it. If it weren't I suppose someone else would be doing it by now. If that's so, what impact does anyone expect the continuing complaints to have, bearing in mind that the previous ones have made no difference?

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Don't tell me JLC can't find any news - he always has a "criticize the front office" article up his sleeve.

"Vinny bad!"
"Danny bad"
"Ravens FO great!"
"I hate the 'skins!"

Fear not my fellow masochists, these themes are coming soon to this space.

Posted by: Player, Game Hater | April 15, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Why so few people talk about the need at the linebacker position? If Rocky cannot be 100 percent from week one, the starters would probably be Washington, Fletcher, Blades. If one of them goes down, who do they sub in? Warrick Holdman?

Posted by: M | April 15, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Nice article by Andre Collins. Great guy. Having trouble with the excerpt below. To me this is a choice, to play for the money or yourself, not a necessity. The problem with some players i.e. Moss, TO, CJ and the soon to be rookie Kelly. Sad.

http://pennstate.scout.com/2/746533.html

FOS: Penn State's Linebacker U. tradition took a hit in the earlier part of this decade. It looks to be back now though, what does that mean to you for that tradition to be upheld?

AC: It really means a lot. Football really becomes part of your personality when you have played it for so long -- you commit so much at it. Linebacker U. is part of your personality and connects you back to your playing days. It's exciting being a former PSU player, more exciting than being a former NFL player. It's more gratifying to be part of PSU. I feel closer to Penn State than I do to the Redskins; you're not playing for yourself or the money at PSU. You are playing for the team, for the students, for the whole state, the whole region. At Penn State you are playing for so much and for so many.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 15, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

And, yes, you can voice your displeasure with us for voicing our displeasure. Although the same argument applies to you that you're laying on us: if you don't like us complaining, then why don't you go to another blog where people don't complain? It's entirely symmetric. Or, "anything you say to me goes double for you."

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 15, 2008 11:23 AM

I'm presuming your Major was in arguing t_e?

The difference between the "voice their displeasure at Jasno's posts" group and the "voice their displeasure at the displeasure voicers" group is that the first group posts at about 5-10x the volume of the second.

If that didn't happen, people in the second group wouldn't grow so tired of it.

So how about we give ourselves a self-imposed limit of one complaint per thread? We could create a new blog code for "I heartily concur with the above complaint" or similar and then those who are really stressed out at the lack of required content can just chime in with the code.

How about that? Or we can just follow the standard alternate option which is it all gets snarky and eventually people stop posting.

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

M, here are all the LBs on the current roster, per redskins.com (which doesn't break them out inside/outside and doesn't post a depth chart in the offseason):

Blades, H.B.
Campbell, Khary
Fletcher, London
McIntosh, Rocky
Sinclair, Matt
Verdun-Wheeler, Danny
Wallace, Rian
Washington, Marcus

[For what it's worth, I don't think LB is a position of need, relative to D line, O line and corner. Yes, even with Rocky likely to miss time or be less than 100% going into this season.]

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Redcoat and some of the other anon's who are calling out all of the whining.......
Seeing that there were over 800 posts on the last entry by Jasno, we don't necessarily need a new thread once per day. Everyone is obviously free to stick around and post what they want, but all of the severe negativity is just getting really tiresome. Everyone is free to write down what they think, go where they want to go, but I really just want to tell some of the repeatedly whiny, negative, "Jason has an axe to grind", "where's my update?" people to just S T F U. For god's sake, are you really that hurt whe this blog doesn't live up to your liking? Sheesh.
Rant off. Gotta go to meetings.

Owned.

Posted by: dlhaze | April 15, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

One complaint per thread? Intriguing...

Reminds me of this Mitch Hedberg bit:

"I think we should only get three honks a month on the car horn. Then, someone cuts you off, you press the horn, and nothing happens. You're like, "Crap! I wish I hadn't seen Ricky on the sidewalk!""

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

S T F U

dl, practice what you preach.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

(Probably should have included Lorenzo Alexander in the LB list since that kid can do just about anything.)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

4th, does that mean I am serious? Or not?

I am good natured for sure. And some would call me super-smart.

Posted by: Dorf | April 15, 2008 10:46 AM

Def good nature ribbing is how I saw it. No school today?

Posted by: 4th | April 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm presuming your Major was in arguing t_e?

So how about we give ourselves a self-imposed limit of one complaint per thread?

Posted by: Redcoat | April 15, 2008 11:41 AM

Well, what I thought I was trying to do was to answer your earlier question "if you're finding what you seek elsewhere why not stay there and post there?" I thought it was a real question, but maybe it was rhetorical.

And as to your new question, assuming it's a real one: How about we just let everyone say what they want to say?

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 15, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

How about we all agree to disagree

Posted by: 4th | April 15, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm with all the other anti-whiners, who say stop the whining. Boo Hoo.

Danny Boy, using Skins General Counsel to defend himself, is stealing corporate resources from his business partners.

David Donovan's defense of Snyder is terribly pathetic, considering JLC has a number of valid points - Snyder's businesses are in the tank.

Revenue that hasn't happened yet, is not guaranteed. Show the expense numbers, because we know how these financial people operate.

All these Extremeflamers, can go back to their forum, and argue with each other.

Posted by: SnyderSucks | April 15, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Nice one, 4th!

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 15, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "agreeing to disagree," here are the suggestions from last week as to what that phrase means when you see it on Redskins Inside Her:

Agree to disagree is the concession phrase when arguing against an indefensible point.

It means my opinion is better than your opinion so quit while your behind,

Once said poster posts this, then it's time for the other poster to disagree to agree to disagree because no one shall have the last word......

I don't care what you say. I'm right and you're wrong! I'm just tired of arguing back and forth.

My way or the highway.

What are you, some kind of Redskin Insider idiot?

A nice way of dealing with somebody you're sure is wrong.

I don't want to waste any more of my time trying to explain to you how stupid you are because you're too stupid to understand your own stupidity.

Staying married for 23 years.

Still time to add better explanations for this phrase.

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 15, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

This is just a fantasy, a satire if you will. No facts here. Just keep moving, nothing to be seen.

Reading this Blog, one now knows what happened to Karl Rove. He's tuning up for the election by swiftboating La Canfora.

Pretty obvious what happened. Jasno's sources have been cut free, fired, eliminated or intimidated. Have to think GG, Byner, the old PR person and a few others were feeding Jasno info. They've been purged in the Ceratto putsch.

Now Kremlin Park has almost complete info flow control, with readers being diverted to Fanzine sites and Redskin owned products.

And the constant Dorfbeat o' critics rippin' on Jasno? Well a cynic (or satirist) might think it was orchestrated at Redskin Park. Payback's a Beeyotch.

Oh sure, there are a fair share of Getalifers locked in Mommy's basement who aren't getting their fill...but trust me, this is orchestrated. And hey have to be delighted that few are sticking up for the target of their ire.

Anyone who's commited journalism can read between the lines and see what is going on here.

so just listen to redskin radio, read Redskins.com and be happy with what they feed you.

I can hear the German 88s outside my window now, so I have to go into hiding. Pray for me.


Posted by: Woodstein Lite | April 15, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

And now the gospel according to "sicwidit"..

1) People are free to agree or disagree, just come strong on RI with your argument. Don't give us that "we never should have gotten rid of Ryan Clark" crap.

2) Accept that the Redskins are damned if they do, damned if they don't. The Redskins could sign Tom Brady and lower ticket prices to 20 bucks and people will still complain.

3) I like Jason LaCanfora...although I think some of his comments jabs at the organization, but on a blog, that's his right (I hated the whole "we let D.J. Hackett go thing"), Is he the next Jerry Rice?

4) Finally, let's declare this now...everyone will not like who the Redskins draft. We need just about every position, but some will say we should have drafted a kicker with the 2nd pick.

Now...you may go.

Posted by: sicwidit | April 15, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

In other made-up NFL news, Todd McShay now has Brandon Albert going 5th overall to Kansas City. Looks like our dream scenario is getting farther and farther away from becoming a reality.

Posted by: psps23 | April 15, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, t_e, may I suggest an arm-wrestling contest to settle it?

I'll buy the winner a drink!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

And as to your new question, assuming it's a real one: How about we just let everyone say what they want to say?

Agree 100 percent TE. Nicely put.

psp, I agree, I don't think Albert will last past the 10th pick. I'm pretty sure someone will fall, Otah, or Merling seem like the most likely candidates.

It is ok to talk about this right?

Posted by: Greg | April 15, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Look at Woodstein Lite, coming STRONG up in here. I like the cut of your jib, compadre!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Greg, it does make sense that as the draft risers like Albert move up, others will move down. There's some natural law at work there, I think.

Unless the league was so impressed with the Belichick/Kraft non-apologies that they award the Patriots a couple of compensatory picks in the middle of the first round because they didn't quite win the Super Bowl this time but gosh, they are such fine fellows. That would really throw my draft board into disarray.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

* beep beep *

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Mud flinging abounds.
Can't agree to disagree!
RI idiots?

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 15, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

And as to your new question, assuming it's a real one: How about we just let everyone say what they want to say?

Posted by: talent evaluator | April 15, 2008 12:05 PM


I wonder, what do you think about the "identity theft" situation on the blog?

Also, you posted some things earlier that I COMPLETELY agree with!!!!! I'll be damned if another man tells me how to talk, on a blog?

Posted by: in accordance w/TE | April 15, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

You'll be damned, indeed.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The issue is this is a blog about the Redskins footabll team not other businesses the owner has or how they are doing...We soo need a new beat writer who focuses on football and not all the hate and owner bashing. Talk football PLEASE!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 15, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

little soccer putz, got smoked hahah

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Vendetta
Canfora can't stop writing
"'Skins: Evil Empire!"

Posted by: RV | April 15, 2008 7:26 AM

Just to be clear thats not me. Hows that for a retraction

Posted by: RIV | April 15, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Obviously it wasn't you -- 100% of the grammar and spelling were correct :)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 15, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

M, here are all the LBs on the current roster, per redskins.com (which doesn't break them out inside/outside and doesn't post a depth chart in the offseason):

Blades, H.B.
Campbell, Khary
Fletcher, London
McIntosh, Rocky
Sinclair, Matt
Verdun-Wheeler, Danny
Wallace, Rian
Washington, Marcus

[For what it's worth, I don't think LB is a position of need, relative to D line, O line and corner. Yes, even with Rocky likely to miss time or be less than 100% going into this season.]


Thanks for posting the LB rooster, but how many NFL starts do Verdun-Wheeler, Khary Campbell, Wallace Rian and Matt Sinclair have between them? If Rocky cannot go (which is very likely given the type of his injury, which usually requires at least a year to heal), a starting quality LB is a huge need.

Posted by: M | April 15, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"3) I like Jason LaCanfora...although I think some of his comments jabs at the organization, but on a blog, that's his right (I hated the whole "we let D.J. Hackett go thing"), Is he the next Jerry Rice?"

This isn't just any old blog. It's not like JLC was like some average guy that created an account of blogger.com and started posting this stuff. He's a paid professional, and on top that this blog generates a LOT of traffic for the Post.com.

So for those of you that think that JLC does this only because he wants to, think about it. How happy would the Post have been last year or during the coaching search if JLC said "I'm done with the blog"? You think they would have let him drop it? The main difference between this and the Redskins page on WP.com is that this blog isn't subject to nearly as much, if any, proofreading. In turn JLC is allowed a lot more freedom to post what he wants on this site on a much more frequent basis.

Maybe JLC started this on his own, personally I don't know, but my guess is the Post won't let it die considering how many of us are posting here on an almost daily basis.

Posted by: RedskinsInsiderVendetta | April 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

S T F U

dl, practice what you preach.

Posted by: | April 15, 2008 11:53 AM

dl was right - you're just a coward and a punk.

Posted by: AWS | April 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The issue is this is a blog about the Redskins footabll team not other businesses the owner has or how they are doing...We soo need a new beat writer who focuses on football and not all the hate and owner bashing. Talk football PLEASE!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 15, 2008 1:25 PM

No, what we NEED is for you to slither back to wherever you came from and take another bong hit or three. It's what you do best, but renders you incapable of intelligent discourse.

Posted by: WaaWaaWaa | April 15, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

JLC bit that hand that feeds him and now the "Insider" has no inside sources.

Posted by: Trent Reznor | April 15, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

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