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Inactives

A few surprises:

CB David Macklin - they really like Torrence and Torrence has become big on special teams, so not a huge surprise

OL - Todd Wade - has a bad shoudler so that might be part of it

RB Marcus Mason - going with just 3 RBs and 1 FB and 1 TE, little thin to me. thought he would play, especialyl with Portis being out so long

DL Ryan Boshetti

DL Lorenzo Alexander

WR Shaun Bodiford - just got here, has a less than 100 percent knee

TE Cody Boyd - hurt

Brunell is third QB

So, Heyer makes the game day roster and Montgomery is in line to start, so the on-lin depth chart got that one right. Mea cupla.

Cheers.

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 9, 2007; 11:40 AM ET
 
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HAIL!

Posted by: CoSkins | September 9, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Oh - new post already. Rok AUN!

here's the Area51 Lust for May Hens pic!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/shuttledik/MayHen.jpg

Posted by: the AMAZING Dik Shuttle | September 9, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Mea cupla -- BRLLIANT.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 9, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Run Portis Run!

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Hail... to the Geelong Cats, kost52's favourite AFL squad, for absolutely crushing Kansas in their AFL Finals opener today, or yesterday, or tomorrow.

And now, HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 9, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

thanks for the mea culpa on the montgomey issue

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Great work, Dik. Very weird.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 9, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

chris Larry, you know the Skins coaching staff only moved Monty to start because J-La said he wasn't the starter. They want to spite him.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 9, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm not going to lie... I haven't been this excited about a first game in a long time. HAIL TO EM.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

10th!

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

10th!

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Damn I can't wait for CP to run up 100 yards today to shut JLC the hell up.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to call Papa John's on Monday. lol

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Back to work everyone!

Posted by: Nate's Boss | September 9, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Finally! Game day. LUST FOR MAYHEM! HTTR!

Jasno with the 'mea cupla'. Love it!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 9, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I am SO excited!

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

HTTR!

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Great to have fox nfl back on.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

All these fox pregame folks are ooggling over new england to win the suberbowl... i don't understand how everyone just writes off indy or for that matter san diego is still an impressive team norv not withstanding

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Random question... any of you guys know why 8 players have to listed as 'inactive' on sundays?

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

If it's me and I am facing this defense in this heat in this game, I am riding Betts. He was the second most productive back in the NFL in the final 7-8 weeks of last season and he's in great shape and worked hard all preseason.--JASNO

Consider this. The last 7-8 weeks of last year Bette was running behind a finely tooled machine. The starting OLine had played together long enough to mesh nicely.

However, this year's OLine isn't close to there yet, which means a back's individual skills are more critical. If the rust is gone and he's healthy, Portis is far and away the more individually skilled back. He's into his cuts faster, hits the hole quicker, and has burst enough to turn a short gain into a 20 yarder, or go to the house.

With that in mind, I ride Portis harder than I might were the line ready to go. If Portis still has rust, then the skins will be dependent on Betts, who may not be able to overcome the Oline's shortcomings--as was shown in the preseason.

With that thought in mind, I suspect the Skins will put the threat of the long ball in the minds of the Fish early, a deep bomblet or two to Moss and The Wide Reseiver. Don't expect TWR to be open or catch the ball, but the threat is what counts.

Also expect a lot of dink and dunk especially to Cooley and think the skins will run AT Taylor since that seems to be the way to approach the best pass rushers.

Should be a low scoring effort, and I think the D is tuned up enough to get it done. I expect they will begin to reverse last year's alarming turnover ratio right away, and that will be the key.

Posted by: CORKCZAR | September 9, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Frothing at the mouth!...Can't blog during the game because I'll drool all over the keyboard. Gotta go! Can't sit still! 20 more minutes! Feel like I just had a triple shot espresso!

**Running from the room** "HTTR HTTR HTTR!!!"

Posted by: 4-12 | September 9, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

you folks joining the chat or should we just keep the post count headed north? ? ?

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I joined the chat but its lame so far

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey there! I'm gonna stay right here....

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

hail...wazzup folks...OGSB here...(Original Gangster Skins Blogger...Megskin, PDiddy etc.)...been a while since i posted...about mid season last year when these blogs got out of control and i couldnt keep up...nice work!!! but how do you all keep your day jobs???

so im in heaven!!! opening sunday...and once again i got a bushel of blue crabs & skins on sunday ticket in 47" HD in front of me!!!

does it get any better than that?

well yeah...1-0 baby!!!

as i said all last year...keep the faith!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

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And that's all I gotta say!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWOOOWOWOWOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

That chat thing is too complicated for my luddite mind. Im staying here and am ready to go. Mid-season form.

Let's mute Dan Dierdorf and get this thing started.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

It was fairly obvious why having the NBA all-star game in Vegas was a bad idea... why does Britney Spears think that resurrecting her career there is a good idea? That's a train wreck waiting to happen.

I forgot Joey Porter was on the Fish's side. Taylor and Porter sort of scare me. Time to go to work Samuals.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Cindy not endorsing the posts new gimmicks? I haven't seen it anywhere else.. are they debuting it with the RI peeps since we are so active / enslaved to your ultimatums?

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

skj! isn't the skins game on fox?

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse


Blue clear sky, green grass
Spirits soar like ball in fight
Field of gold is ours!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Game Time! Hail To The Redskins!

Posted by: mjwies11, D.C. | September 9, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Cindy:

you mgmt folks have got to get on the same page ;-)

no pent up blogging action out there is there . . .

It's is so good to have this start up again . . .

I'm w/ sf, woo*

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

It's always the "visiting team's network", ergo it's on CBS.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I said it before and I'll say it again:

This has to be the most perfect day of the year. It is to football fans what Easter is to Christians -- the resurrection.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

CBS, DANTE CBSSS!!!!

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

silence the bells, the canons,the pyrotechnics and muzzle the experts
my true love is here, my true love is here
it's been too long
9 months and 4 days and 20 hours to be exact
ohh what a sight for sore eyes

turn off the baby monitors, the lawn mowers and the nay sayers
my true love is here all the way to 14-2!


btw, i'm having fish for lunch!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Do you suppose Redcoat is upside-down in a trash can about now?

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't this game on Fox?

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Its really hot, really humid and WE'RE kicking off!

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

get your tartar sauce ready!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I thought all nfc hosted interleague games were on fox and vice versa

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Smoot starts. Springs at nickel.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

3 and out. Yummy.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

GO DEFENSE!!!!! 3 and out

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

3 and out phins!

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The defense looked great, but let's remember these are the Dolphins. Still....good start.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

anyone else having probs w/ internet radio feed?

I got m tivo all q'd up and the radio is spotty, never happened last yr

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

That's what we needed a good D start. Why Springs not starting? Poor Lisa.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

is springs hurt?

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

As advertised, the D is HUNGRY!

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse


Three and out to start!
Skins defense on the march back
Lust for Mayhem starts!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

1st play. CP breaks three tackles for three yards.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

CP baby.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

GO PORTIS!!!!

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, looks like CP has lost a step. Haha.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

oh man... interception ...let's stick to the run folks

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

D'oh! Where's Brunell? :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Oops. Pick. Springs not hurt, just playing nickel. CP's first down required another three broken tackles. Kendall also stopped two guys, including Zach Thomas.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh man i didn't even see something that stupid from jc last year

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse


Season over, done
Redskins Nation gnashes teeth
JC betrays us!

(Tongue firmly in cheek!)

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

nuff said :)

Posted by: TC is the Man | September 9, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Jason's pocket was collapsing quickly.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

This "Lord of the Flies" Kid Nation thing looks creepy.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Right? Brunny.. lmao

But, gee... looked like CP was, uh... hittin' hard.. and uh... breakin' a few.

Gee - too bad he doesn't have heart...

SKJs...

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I told you guys CP will be fine. JC will bounce back. The D will hold them to 3 points. Let's go baby.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

8 yards from Booker's run. Reaper nearly removes Booker's head.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Fine he has to throw ONE int. this season so let's get it out of the way.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

not sure what he saw there, might have been a misread? read man, actually zone? JC had plenty of time . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to thank dan snyder for having triple X ESPN radio (which is such a non kosher name for a radio station) broadcasting the game on the Internet.

Posted by: SP | September 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Ronnie Brown stopped at the line of scrimmage by 4 Skins ... all punching on the way down. Green SACKED by Carter!

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter with the sack. Impressive.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse


HELLO, MR. CARTER!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Carter for the sack!!!

Posted by: Greg(Boston | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Sack andre carter

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I prefer blogs to chats. Just me.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

BANGIN D'

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Carter baby! Damn maybe I have to give double G credit.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Smooooooot. This defense is very, very impressive.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Mister CAHTER! Picking up where he left off!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse


So far, all the cat calls of me being a homer for picking the redskins' D in my draft has been worth it....5 minutes into the season, of course!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Green is the new Brunell.

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Why are "cold activated bottles" wasted on such a crappy beer?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

anyone seeing this in HD??? what the hell's up with CBS??

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

D looks like it is back . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

WTF! xxx 4 plays late.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Watching in HD on DirecTV...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

jm220. There is a delay. On the fin's first series it was like 2 plays, then on the 2nd series they were just playing musac most of the time until the punt. better than nothing

Posted by: SP | September 9, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

BTW, for the last few seasons, CBS only had the capability to broadcast three games in HD. Which, when you consider that the NFL is the single biggest driver of HDTV sales, is ludicrous. It appears they may have expanded their capacity this year.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

sheep commercial is pretty funny . . .

gotta love EV DO Rev a, got 300k to the handset the other day . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

So I'm wrong about the passing game... uhhhhhgh.

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

NICE punt by Frost.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

A little blech.

But Green Bay did score on a muffed punt return by Philly.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

good punt Frosty

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

sheesh. 64 yards.

Posted by: SP | September 9, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

what was that stinkin penalty again??

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

YEAH! Stooopid refs!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love the penalties going our way

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Zebra conference results in goodness. Let's watch another bad car commercial, perhaps some beer looks good, and I really need some ED medication...

Fins and all.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Yeah - I guess Riggo DIDN:T come outta retirement to make a hold on a return.

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I actually like that Cowboys commercial. Jerry Jones is such a ham.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering why there would be holding on the coverage team. makes no sense

Posted by: SP | September 9, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

This is Ourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr country!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Noize NOIZE NOIZE - Bring it

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

do you thikn the danny would ever do somehting like that?

don't think so! ! !

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

How many tackles will Rocky and London make today? Yeesh.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Smoot got caught giving a carlos rogers type cushion

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

What's up with Springs?

I love to see Clash (London Fletcher Baker - London Calling - The Clash - Clash)
running about back there telling guys what to do.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The Dolphins keep killing themselves. It's funny because this was us last year.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

where's springs???

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Smoot hurt his elbow.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

never ye mind...smooty needs to tighten up...

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm. Offense on the field scares me.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell ARE to once in a while just run forward and see what happens. Just once in a while for shtis and giggles.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

The FedEx crowd is going nuts. Those two offensive offsides/motion penalties were earned by the crowd.

Wonder if ARE is ever going to run FORWARD on a punt return.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so there are 4 things redeeming about New York fans.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

haven't a lot of chatter but penalties, but it seems like this team is committing way fewer penalties (knock on wood)

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

OK JC calm down and put together a nice drive.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

anyone got an idea re: what's up w/ how dub g is playing springs? not sure I get it yet. . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

JC to ARE. That's what we're talking about.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Sonny called that long pass to ARE.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

SOOOOOOUUUUUUPPPPSSSSSSS!!!!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

ARE!!!!

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

JC to ARE for 35 yds.

Posted by: greg(Boston | September 9, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

WTF is up with xxx? Tripple smack to the back of their damn heads!

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, it's more Musak on XXX Radio.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Betts getting the >3.5 yards. Nice. Bram says CP not hurt, but out with wardrobe malfunction.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Time to hit Cooley over the middle.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

sellers for 4 yards.

Posted by: greg(B) | September 9, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

hey i don't mind jc throwing some more interceptions over brunell if he can actually complete passes like that

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

dubl smack, that reminds me, I still need to get that t-shirt from nate's virtual store. . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Second Skins first down today (in three possessions). This is BUSINESS, esp. on Miami.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

xxx missed 4 damn plays before it came back on the air.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Smoot just got a little bump in his funny bone ... or in Smoot's case, his hilarious bone.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Very cool game. Nice to see some resiliency.

Posted by: Dik | September 9, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

end of 1st quarter, we're in ok shape, have only given up 43 total yards to the phins. I'll take that 3 more times

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 9, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

CP and Betts both have 4 carries for 13 yards. Anyone still worried about CP?

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Green Bay beating Philly 10-0. :)

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

hope the dude at trip X internet feed gets a cup o joe between qtrs

so far seems like he's asleep at the switch. . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Nice shovel pass.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Shuttle pass to Betts for ANOTHER first down!

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

They're not missing plays. The Muzak is in lieu of commercials, since the commercials are inserted locally and (because you're listening over the Internets) there are no local commercials for you.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

trip X dude still asleep . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

come on skins get the touchdown please

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I take back everything negative I ever said about Betts.

Bram says Portis has a "leg bruise" and that Fox has a groin pull (and done for the day).

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Well also I hate to say it but CP don't have ze butterfingers in the redzone.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh man, losing Jansen...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Jansen REALLY hurt.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse


SJK Jensen down.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

where is oye como va? ? ?

got to get hime som tpuches here

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

No no no no no no no no no no please just a stinger please. Hit in the family jewels that's it please.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Taylor was offsides on that play, but I didn't see a flag. Is that coach call reviewable?

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

give me an updated guys, not on TV up here, what happened with JJansen?

Posted by: greg(Boston) | September 9, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The Internet radio is also 3-4 plays behind the television feed (which is 1/2 play behind live, as anyone with that silly Kangaroo TV at the stadium will tell you).

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

OH SJK!!! Jansen looks REAALLT bad...they got him biting down on a towel...looks like some blogfolks will be gettin there wish to get jansen out

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Damn Jansen is down.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Wade is inactive. Who comes in? Heyer?

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Jansen got rolled up from behind during the JC sack. It looks like his knee, and he looks to be in terrible pain and is being carted off.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

He blew out his ACL, that's exactly how it happens, being hit from behind. If it's not ruptured, we'll be VERY lucky.

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh, man. Jansen is done for the year.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Thanks....and CRAP!!!!

I suppose that Heyer would come in?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 9, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm sticking with my 15-13 prediction. 5 FGs for the inept Red Zone 'Skins offense, and a game winner for SwissHam at the end.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

It was Jansen's right leg. Which one did he bust the Achilles on two seasons ago?

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh, man. Jansen is done for the year.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 01:44 PM

is this inside knowledge or worst case nightmare?

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

That Manning Sprint commercial is idiotic.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Jansen, dislocated right ankle.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, that was not ineptitude in the RZ. They were moving the ball. [Bram says Jansen has dislocated ankle.] They went for the FG b/c replacing the tackle interrupts the momentum.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

cyn city: anyway someone who knows someone at red zebra can make a call on our behalf? some dude is defintely not doing his job at Trip x today. just tell them that they got jm all fired up, that should do it . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Is that "better" or worse?

Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse


Dislocated right ankle? Sounds bad, but not as bad as a rupture ACL? Is there a doctor in the blog?

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Dislocated ankle OUCH! UGH!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Oreo Pizza on the way. Full review coming soon.

Wine pairing suggestions?

:-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I dislocated my ankle two years ago and all I can say is that we won't be seeing Jansen on the field for a while. My ankle hurts just thinking about his recovery.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Hell yeah they don't want to see me right now.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Smoot is back in.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Dislocated ankle a season ender? Hope Wade gets better soon.

Posted by: mofass79 | September 9, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Whoever said "Trent Green 2007 = Mark Brunell 2006" is spot on.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Dislocated ankle mean that Jansen will be out for 8-12 weeks...minimum

Damn...

Posted by: Mo (Cleveland) | September 9, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Oreo Pizza on the way. Full review coming soon. Wine pairing suggestions?


Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 01:47 PM

Chateau Pepsi 2007

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Rogers out. Springs in on the left. Smoot moved over to the right. Cornelius out, Golsten in.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Diddy - saw a print ad for Oreo pizza and I threw up a little in my mouth.

Okay D let's dig in and push em back.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Damn it. D time to step up.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Fumble! Redskins ball!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

AND A TURNOVER! SPRINGS RECOVERS!

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse


That's exactly what needs to happen: Defensive needs to seriously carry this team through at LEAST the bye week, and, now, with Jansen out, probably beyond that.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

First a sack! Now a fumble recovery! WOOO defense!

Why is Rogers out? And adonde este el receiver?

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I dislocated my ankle in February and I wasn't playing any sort of sport until at least June (not well mind you) wasn't full speed until Septemberish. Jansen probably has better doctors and rehab equipment than I did, but it'll be a long rode if the injury is similar.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Skins are saying it's a dislocated ankle for Jansen.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

XXX internet radio is missing plays - they missed the damn field goal. What's the score now? 17-10?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Lisa must be jumping for joy right now. Springs with the recovery.

"No, he's not over the hill!"

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

That's what I am talking about D.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The Wide Receiver -- Lloyd, Brandon - has been on the field alot and open alot.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

gotta get him some toques . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

HB Blades caused the fumble?

Posted by: Greg(boston) | September 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean that Jasno's going to have to get a new mantra? "They're no good. No turnovers."

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Rocky with the forced fumble. Springs with the recovery.

Well done. Very, very, very impressive, eh?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

A sack and a turnover already? Oh, Jasno!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

That sack is totally on JC. WTF? Throw the ball away.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Good balance in the play calling btw. I'm thinking Saunders may have figured out how to do this.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Who has come in for Jansen?

Sorry for all the questions

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 9, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

JC not sharp today at all.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse


JC blew that one. WAY overthrown to the wide open Moss.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

That sack was not check down/throw it out-able ... JC was up in the pocket so there was traffic on all sides. Brunell could throw out of bounds to avoid the sack last year b/c he never stepped up into the pocket.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

JC not sharp today at all.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 01:55 PM

I would have said he's not consistent. His first pass to Randle El was sharp. And was the INT on him or on Cooley? It's opening day.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Frost needs to learn the right time for a shank.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

JC not sharp? Too early to say. He JUST got SACKED for the first time. Just poise rattled.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

JC is holding the ball too long early and may be nervous in his first opening game start. By the second half he should settle in!

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

now we know why the gruff LB coach is no longer . . .

how can you keep rock ont eh bench with holdman out there? ? ?

like dub g said about dub l, he'll make mistakes but he'll make them at full speed. . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Who replaced Jansen btw?

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Note: that JC sack happened on Samuels' side, not Heyer's.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Heyer replaced Jansen

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Is C. Rogers playing, I've only seen Smoot and a lot of him!

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Good thing Heyer got those reps in preseason.

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Lessons from Samuels' injury and now Jansen ... OTs should never allow themselves to be horizontal on the field. Other guys fall on them and break them.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm, Mandy Moore guest starring on a lame CBS sitcom. If she's so desperate for attention, I recommend accidentally leaking a sex tape.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

So far today, Jason is having a better day than McNabb.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Laron

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Booker drops a pass in the middle of Area 51. How many times will we see that this year?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

AREEEAAAAHHHHH 51!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Carlos is so good that the Dolphins are not looking at his side of the field. LOL!

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

boy that dolphins punt looked like a frost shank spectacular

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

WOW....and we thought Frosty shanked punts!

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

UGLIEST punt. Ever. Miami.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

DCsween: looked to me like zach thomas rolled up on JJ while he was upright. . .

dxxx Trip X

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Rogers is playing. Springs has played nickel. The Dolphins use 3 wide receiver sets. When Booker plays the slot ,, Springs has been on him.

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Booker drops a pass in the middle of Area 51. How many times will we see that this year?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 02:03 PM

And it was rocky mac that nailed him causing the drop

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Area 51 baby. Nate get those damn T made up my friend.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder was such a brilliant marketing guy, he'd have redskins.com store commercials instead of Musak on the feed.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line - both teams are playing very poorly, particularly the Dolphins.

JC very shakey so far.

Posted by: GAD | September 9, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Following the game via drive chart on nfl.com, any suggestions for something better online?

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat was repping for that great Miami punter. WTG Redcoat!

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

We need to play more sharp on offense

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

triple xxx on the internet, avg. time behind now...5 mins. avg. plays missed, 3 per break. good stuff danny

Posted by: xxx net | September 9, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Santana. Oye como va?

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Mofass, try cbssportsline.com.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 9, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I dont think its just JC not playing well. The dolphins have a good defense. I think we should pick on the secondary more and get Cooly involved more.

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm still trying to figure out why they drafted Ginn in the first round...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Skins' O is not sharp, but don't forget whose D they're up against.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Greg will try

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Every pass seems to be thrown at Fred Smoots way.

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

OK we need the D to get another turnover.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Corner backs play to far off the ball/

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

In the heat, are d has been on the field too long. We need a stop!

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

someone needs to put green on his a$$

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

dub L time . . .

would be nice to see the rook step up . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

WATCH THE TRICK PLAY

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Where are the blitz packages today?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

2 good stops. Come on let's make it 3!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

So, this is weird. 4 seconds to play and a timeout. WTF? You can run one play, or kick one FG. Why not call TO at 20 seconds? Huh????

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Why was Rogers behind a back up tight end, s##ks

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

we'll be lucky to be 5-11 again this year...this is embarassing

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

aRE DEFENSE HAS PLAYED WELL. Are offense needs to show up or its an another long season.

Posted by: T | September 9, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

this team sucks just like last year

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Damn...D was doin so well...hope this fires em up during the halftime break...smoot still keeps gettin burnt...and rogers is just awful

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

we'll be lucky to be 5-11 again this year...this is embarassing

Posted by: | September 9, 2007 02:22 PM

aRE DEFENSE HAS PLAYED WELL. Are offense needs to show up or its an another long season.

Posted by: T | September 9, 2007 02:23 PM

It's one half of football, lame-o's.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

yeah, 7-3 is such a blowout. Why don't you guys go watch the WNBA?

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

wtf is this? this team stinks...anyone remember how bad the Skins were in the 3rd quarter all of last year...let's see hwo they come out...they have the ball to start the 2nd half.

Posted by: julio | September 9, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Redskins look bad - inept on offense.

The Dolphin splayed like crap and are still beating the sorry Skins.

They really look slow, disorganized on defense.

Where's all of this team speed.

Posted by: GAD | September 9, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse


LOL Gee, usually it takes the first loss for the Redskins Nation extremists to go all doom and gloom -- doing so after the first score on the defensive is a new low! Well done!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Okay, official review of Oreo pizza:

The crust is regular pizza crust, albeit really, really thin. It's a very odd contrast in flavor between the salty, cardboardy crust and the pile of Oreos, chocolate, and frosting on top. It's kind of like stuffing your mouth with a cardboard box and Oreos at the same time.

Basically, it's disgusting.

But there's a lot of sugar in there. sfskin, something to consider feeding your kids before class.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

wow...Randy Moss 4 rec. 87 yards in the first half

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

It's killing me to see all these balls go to Smoot. He seems to be more worried about staying 5 yards away from the reciever than making a play. And every time he makes a tackle he's thumping his chest. As if it's negating the fact that he just gave up a reception.

I'm not as worried about Soup. Give him time, he'll settle down. He's got half time to get himself calmed down. The play calls haven't been bad, just the execution. Y'all waited this long for the season to start, let's give a little while before we go burying it! :)

Posted by: Junior | September 9, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Ok first off I'm hoping this is first game rust but the Dolphins seem to have shaken that off.

2nd JJ is a huge blow considering how early it is...

3rd all we have done for two years is call for Cmpbell...Well we have him now...So no more excuses....

This team looks the same as always to me...They just seem to not be able to execute...Defense looks great though...Can't blame them for the TD that was a gutsy call and could have went either way.

Lets hope Gibbs throws a gatorade cooler at half and can somehow do what he has done for years...Make halftime adjustments....But right now...This team on offense looks awful.

Posted by: Leevi | September 9, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

We're doomed! We're doomed!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

D looks better than last year, but the O still looks pretty bad. Cooley getting blown up, Jansen down, dropped passes, overthrown balls and picks.

Bright spot, ARE and maybe Betts.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

We have to make a statement on this first drive, period. Its so early. The D was on the field too long and the dolphins made adjustments how to attack the D.We too involve Cooley, go play action and set up the big play.

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Season over...when does the NBA start? Will the Wizards be any better?

Posted by: Ralph | September 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I thought the strangest Redskins decision of the first half was taking Betts out of the game after he'd brought the ball down to the seven and replacing him with Portis. Portis didn't do zip, but the play calling on those two plays was pretty unispired.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

We have another half to play. What is wrong with you guys? On half and you are ready to say we suck. Damn I wouldn't want some of you as my back up in trouble times.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

We were FAR worse in third quarter last year than 1st half, could get ugly. Green is a good QB and he's getting more and more time. And where are our screen passes? This defense is made for them and they were some of our best gainers last year.

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

1st drive of the 2nd half is HUGE. The skins have to get a TD.

Posted by: etrod | September 9, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Cooley isnt apart of the passing game because he has to stay back and help block...Jansen is out for the year and Samuels is just now getting back...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Love the Vikings TD. It's always fun to watch fat men run.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

down by 4 points at the half; not bad at all. the "D" is keeping pace with Miami's "D". Looks good. You aren't going to be world beaters on every play.

It's still anybody's game....

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 9, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

We're doomed! We're doomed!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 02:27 PM

Diddy--That you talkin' or the pizza?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

dislocated ankle = "out for the year"?

nah

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

jm - I wouldn't want some of these clowns as my backup in good times - lol

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I see people think the Nation is being too harsh about this team so early....

I can tell ya this...I have the NFL ticket and I watching all the games and the Skins offense looks the worst of the day thus far...

Yes I agree we should not doom the season just yet. but Basic execution is crucial...They are not executing well at all...The oline can't pass block for s**t and the running game is just not there after the first 4 carries....I don't care who you are playing...I'm tired of making execuses for this team...there is no more excuses....PLAY Dammit!

Posted by: Leevi | September 9, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Dick Enberg still around? Oh my!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

JM220
JC sucks and i cant wait to read all your lame excuses!

Posted by: Excuse KING! | September 9, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Dislocated ankle very serious. Glance at these horror stories...

http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=1794

Posted by: DAW | September 9, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Diddy--That you talkin' or the pizza?"

It's me being facetious. But it's also the pizza. Scratch "Order Domino's" off the season to do list. Might as well cross off "Eat dog poop" while I'm at it. Leaves "Go on a date with Heidi Klum" and "Read the entire Berenstein Bears oeuvre".

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Leevi - take up knitting, it will easier on your heart

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

How do you guys think the Wizards will do this year?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I thikn we need one of theose drives where we just feed feed betts over and over again, a la 2nd halfo of last year. . .

way to early to b negative . . .

dfense looks much improved, time for the adjustments we never seemed to make last year . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy, was that your C-3P0 impression?

I just hope they don't abandon the running game. Keep pounding it at Thomas and the crew and they'll wear down.

Hopefully the D will make an adjustment stop the mid range stuff. It's time for Area 51 to take charge.

Posted by: etrod | September 9, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Any pearls of wisdom from Sonny and Sam? Are they drinking their Metamucil and Ovaltine yet?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The seasons not over. We played 1 half! We will win, period!

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I hope Olexy Pechorov and Andre Blatche can step up in the paint to help out Arenas and Butler

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Sam Huff is taking his traditional halftime nap.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The spirit of Ade Jimoh lives on, in fred Smoot. No they aren't calling "Smooooot" they ARE booing.

WHy has it taken Cam Cameron less than a half to make his offense work, and Saunders still doesn't?

Posted by: Corkczar | September 9, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

It took Cam Cameron less then a half and Saunders 2 yrs and they still havent figured it out...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Not that it matters given the score, but the Skins definitely look better than the Dolphins today. [The score doesn't count till the game is over.] Betts is getting great yardage. The Skins have had 3 (4?) first downs ... although an equal number of punts. Though the O is making the Dolphins D look weak, Trent Green is doing the same thing to the Skins' D. STILL not good numbers on third down by our D. Where is LaRon today?

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't agree with changing RBs so often Put one in and stick to it...Backs get in tune with things as the game goes on...especially Portis...

Posted by: Leevi | September 9, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Do the hogettes get to their seats on their own, or do they use canes, walkers?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Weird Al is too busy indexing his playbook. It's hard work, don't ya know...

By next season, we'll be able to look up "Completed pass" in the index and end up on page 568 for that extra special play we've all been clamoring for. You know the one where JC puts the ball in Santana's hands and he holds on to it. That one.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Patriots just ran back opening kickoff of 2nd half for a TD

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

the redskins are still awful. awful.
if Jason Campbell and joe gibbs ever win a playoff game ill eat my Shar Pourdanesh gameworns

folks cut your emotional losses know. its gonna be a few years

Posted by: real | September 9, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

what the hell is santana moss's problem?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

News flash - JC just not an accurate passer!

Posted by: JC | September 9, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

let's leave the predictions for after the game . . .

lookd like rocmac should of stayed out in the flat on the TD . .

oye como va!!!!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

WTF?!?!?

Who was that talking about the Wizards, it's week one of the NFL season!!! For God's sake! GO SKINS GO SKINS GO SKINS GO SKINS!!! That's all I want to hear out of you mush mouths!

Posted by: Skins fan hell or high water!!! | September 9, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

JC to ARE. PERFECT long ball. Absolutely perfect.

We're not doomed! We're not doomed!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a qb with an arm and a new #1 receiver

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, CP has definitely lost a step.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Soup is lovin him some ARE

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

that's what I was saying...TD on the opening drive!!!!

and CP helped out my fantasy team.

Posted by: etrod | September 9, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse


Cue Mark Twain: "Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated."

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Who needs Preseason! Portis for a TD! WOO HOOO!!!

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

JC long ball. CP td! Now shut SJK up! Don't talk smack to me!

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah that offense sjks.

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Um, did someone ask for an opening 2nd half drive??

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

To all Wizards fans, I called it, Dont jump ship yet. Because the Wizards are awful. Go Skins, CP, are you with me!

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Now thats how you start off the 2nd half...come on defense...step up!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

someone say something about CP losing a step? a little foot for supper?

Posted by: waiting since 02 | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

That's more like it....Whoever invented the oreos pizza should be shot.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Randel El is coming up BIG... which is good since Moss couldn't catch the ball if it had a handle on it!

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

A few lame-o's need to do the right thing now and say "I was wrong." You know who you are.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Cooley blocked Taylor on that CP run. I will never doubt him again.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

It looks like all the nay sayers just logged off! HAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

pls kick it in bounds swissham . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like shaking off the rust and getting Portis in the end zone.

Posted by: calebt17 | September 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

If a TD for Miami means our season is doomed does a TD for us mean we're going to the Superbowl?

I think it does!

Posted by: SonicJones | September 9, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

FYI...Last years 1st pick in the draft, Mario Williams, scored his first TD. 41 yard fumble return...Good for him...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh, right, that's why they drafted Ginn.

:-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

trip XX went silent, did you get to the board operator jm?

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Well...it was in bounds.

Posted by: etrod | September 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

No nay saying here - We still need for Moss to get his hands back though....

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I said HAIL!!! Let's go Skins nation!! HAIL!!!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

the oreos pizza was invented in Kansas City, of all places.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Whoever invented the oreos pizza should be shot.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 02:43 PM

Probably Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzalez, or someone else we already hate.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Not how we needed to respond after a TD

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

well randle el has 100 yards recieving...nice...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Did Mario Williams have a good year last year? It's easy to get overlooked when you play for such a bad team (cue Redskins Nation's constant harping about the 'Skins getting overlooked for everything).

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

still dead air on trip x . . .
geez . . .have to listen to the real strawberry sortcake in the background, argh . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Rocky is playing great!

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

It is hard for me to plumb the depths of my literary prowess to describe the contempt I have for Oreo Pizza. That's $4 I just spent which could have been spent on a Bud Light or something.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Not in KC! Say it isn't so!!! KC is one of the best cities on planet earf.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Sack for Rocky!!!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Rocky Mac! Come on O score another TD on this play and take their heart.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Green got a Mac Attack!

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

KC is certainly one of the best restaurant cities in America. Vastly underrated.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Where are all of you we are doomed people? You need to man up and say you were wrong. A footballl game isn't over in the first half.

Cyn Cyty make sure JLC say he was wrong about CP.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Randy Moss 50-yd TD pass - Patriots are gonna bury the Jets

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

anybody just see Betts wave Portis off?

Posted by: etrod | September 9, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy,

At what point were you contemplating Oreo pizza, and thinking that there was even a chance it might be good?

Posted by: SonicJones | September 9, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Hugely underrated, Diddy. I also just noticed that you ordered this pizza at 1:47 eastern....that's, what, 10:47 for you??? That may have upped the disgustingness.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Jasno will do another mea cupla.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Where are all of you we are doomed people? You need to man up and say you were wrong. A footballl game isn't over in the first half.

Cyn Cyty make sure JLC say he was wrong about CP.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 02:52 PM


We're waiting!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

JLaC needs to apologize to CP in person, on camera, wearing plaid shorts, and a pink polo with a popped collar.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

CP has 10 carries for 48 yards. Man him not playing in the pre season is really hurting him.

Posted by: JM220 | September 9, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

KC's a great food town, but underrated? No way. Everyone says good things about food in KC.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Randy Moss just caught a 50-yard td pass.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

anyone seen landry recently or know if he's hurt; seems like prilleau is on the field for him a lot or did he get benched or something or are we just in nickel and dime packages; he's been quiet

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Whoever is in charge over there at xxx needs the beat down.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Sonic, it's a moral imperative. Last year, Fudge 'Ums was epically wonderful (cubes of poop? SIGN ME UP!) This year, "beard of Oreos?" Oh yes. I'm in.

A discriminating pallette, indeed.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

D needs a takeaway to keep the haters off the blog. There are other reasons, too.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

People think KC is just bbq and steak, that's why I say it's underrated.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

And, of course, I meant palate. Grrrr.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Are we bring any heat on Green?

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

D just looks too much like last year in the pass game. Miami won't need the run if this keeps up.

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

You gotta give Carlos Roger credit on that tackle. Textbook.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Rogers made 2 good plays in a row.

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Well, they have only allowed 10 points thus far. So, let's give credit where it's due, and assign blame where it's due. The defense looks very strong overall. The offense looks inconsistent. Even more importantly, the game isn't even over yet :-)

But remember, this was the whole deal. Close games until mid-season, then the offense comes together and they make a run at it. If they end up 6-5 or 5-6, things may be alright in that weak division.

So don't panic.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

did rogers actually make a play? ? ?

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

We're Doomed! Doomed I say!

Posted by: SonicJones | September 9, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

China is the most mysterious land on Earth? Survivor is making "TV History"?

Huh?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

jm: let me know when tripx is back , on the teevee feed rrightnow . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

why is triple x not broadcasting im stuck in san antonio and not hearing the game is killing me

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I love JC MOBILITY.

Posted by: Tommy | September 9, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Nice play from Soupy...

Posted by: JC inNC | September 9, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

JC on a 12 yard run

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Now we're talking! Wear the Miami D down and give ours a break!

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

It's great for the League that Randy Moss is back in full force.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

JLaC nailed...10-10 4th Quarter...whose going to make the play or the mistake...

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Oye, como va?

Va bien, gracias.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

JLaC nailed it with is prediction...10-10 in the 4th Quarter...whose going to make the play or the mistake???

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

That's what I am talking about JC. That's my dawg! That's my dawg

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Yep, he nailed it. Altho he'd said he nialed it.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

After that Campbell run, I hope you guys who were saying that Brunell should be the starter will realize why you were wrong. Wait -- different blog site -- geriatrics.com

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

D'oh!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

OK 1qt to go. Damn this game is way to close for my liking.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

BLloyd's gotta give it more of a fight than that! Maybe he had an oreos pizza breakfast, too.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Okay D. Reach down and grab em!!!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Just caught up with time on game (knew had to pause it when my dog was standing in front of the TV with the leash)and now caught up with the blog.

What's up with the poopy pants at halftime? I mean are you guys fans of other teams who are here just to be poopy pants? That's sad.

Anyhoo I'll say it's not consistentlyl great but you know what we're seeing what we can do warts and all.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Damn...did you see that...B.Lloyd basically let that one go...big wuss...we needed to cut him last year

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Damn Damn Damn! Come on D

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Was I mistaken, or did Lloyd, Brandon give up on that play -- both on the pass and on tackling after the interception?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

what the crappin crap SAUNDERS, run the CRAPPIN BALL!!!!!

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 9, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Umm the Receiver isn't earning his paycheck today. He's had some blocks but two bad plays.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, t-e, it appeared that he gave up. I don't like to call guys out for that stuff because who knows what's going on, but, yeah, he did look like he pulled up a little there.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Totally, Talent, totally. And that pass interference by Smoot was horrid.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

They've got to make Lloyd inactive next game and let Bodiford and Thrash have a chance. Those guys at least care.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Yeah that was crap... lets use the rest of our free cap space this year and cut b lloyd now

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Alright, just how BS are these Ford commercials? Anybody have a giant plane and a Ford truck so we can try it out?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

man im getting really nervous...Can JC lead them to a score? Will the Def hold Miami for the rest of the game???

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

i understand the $$ side of things, but can't we make the Wide Receiver pour Gatorade or something??

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Ad break commentary:
Who was the genius at CBS who decided that China is "the land of mystery"?

Nice thing about game on CBS is no Chevy commercials!!! Not our country at CBS woohoo!

I'm sad about Oreo Pizza - not because I didn't think it would be anything but vomitous but it diminishes what I consider the finest cookie on the mass marketplace.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I'll take the drop, maybe he was hearing footsteps with da reap closing in? ? ?

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Miami hands are our best defensive weapon!

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

david martin? brandon lloyd? Have they ever been seen together? I'm thinking not. The receiver's drawing pay checks from two teams.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I prefer the Newman O's (ginger and mint!). Paul is a culinary genius.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

is xxx internet radio working for anyone?

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Nutter Butters!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

that's what talent, or lack thereof will get u. . .

hopefully oye como va has got drops out of his system, what's the count 2? 3?

more than I'm used to seeing . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

im not too stoked on the way our d is playing...they are getting off the hook too easy with all those dropped passes that shoulda been first downs...

we gotta get some pressure on the qb...too many plays look like last year...secondary just getting picked apart...good thing they are dropping those...

of course we're guilty as well on the other side of the ball...

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Time to run CP to the end zone again. And damn it get Cooley involved.

Posted by: JM220 | September 9, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

BTW just to demonstrate how fast and smart I am and that all that $ my parents spent on my education was totally worth it. . .

I just realized that 30 + 21 = 51. Yup maybe me and Skippy should meet and procreate.

CP way to keep it going.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

It's time to put this game in CP's hands. He's the franchise, he's the guy.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, that's hilarious. I had no idea either...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

sf: you are doing our thinking for us . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

damn...campbell's got to get his throws down,,,

Posted by: waiting since 92 | September 9, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

randel el...is he stepping up to be a bonified #2?

today he looks like the #1...

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

So The Receiver makes a catch, but there's a penalty on the D, so it doesn't count. Love it.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Time for Lloyd ass to be inactive for the rest of the year.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey looky the Receiver just caught a pass! What was that worth? $1 million?

Cooley is blocking I assume.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Did everyone see that? Someone stole the Wide Receiver's jersey and went out and caught a pass...

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

sellars takes z thomas for a ride . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

What? 30+21=51?

I googled it and I got -- an airfield whose primary purpose is believed to be the operation and analysis of enemy aircraft and weapons systems -- from Wikipedia.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Pound the Rock, Esp. with Sellers, he makes the D HURT

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

miami d wearing down?

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

YEAH...pound that sucker!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I think I smell Joe Gibbs fuball.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Joey Harrington - sacked 5 times. Talk about doomed.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

don't run that stupid end around again, what the CRAP!!

Posted by: Greg(beantown) | September 9, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

SwissHam nails it. Nail biting time.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Did St. Joe just fling his headphones? Is that emotion we see? Nice!

Good call refs but still me likey the fire!

SWISSHAM!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Hooray for Swissham!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Redskins in the Super Bowl!

Posted by: SonicJones | September 9, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

So I wasn't the only one who didn't pick up on the Area 51 thing? Phew. I figured I was simply repeating my Happy Birthday to You stupidity.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

OK D time to step up! By the way CP 13 carries for 64 yards. XXX just came back on.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Did St. Joe just fling his headphones? Is that emotion we see? Nice!

Good call refs but still me likey the fire!

SWISSHAM!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 03:34 PM

I agree! Nice to see some fire from Coach Joe...

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

thw stream is back

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

trip x hs audio again . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

The thing about that end around that annoys me is that it's the 4th quarter, you're getting good traction with power running with Betts and CP and you call a gimmick. It's just odd. I can totally see calling it in the 1st or 2nd quarter to setup the D for a play later, but it's crunch time, so why go for the fancy play?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

sfskin--I didn't get the memo either. "Secret airbase to kill enemy" worked for me.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Damn I can't take this!

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

AND a nice kickoff to boot!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Two good kicks, way to pin them back with the kickoff!

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 9, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Portis/Betts 25 carries 106 yards 1 td

Good work, good balance

Posted by: greg(bean) | September 9, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I feel like we called that end around play a bunch of times last year and it never really worked. I always felt like it was Weird Al's way of trying to get the ARE magic going. But after his performance today seems silly.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Kicking game has been dependable today - how about that?

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

heavy dose of the muzak is all i'm gettin though . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Swissham is my fantasy kicker

Posted by: SonicJones | September 9, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I haven't seen or heard of LL today? what's going on

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Rogers...schooled

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

we need a play from da reap!!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Rogers - abused

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

trip x is performing like #22

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse


SJK call!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

lol - xxx radio runs some musak and commercials, and then goes down again - wtg Snyder

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse


OK, upon review, maybe not...SJK Rogers!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

how was that ball catchable?

did they change the rules when the audio died?

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Agree KuMan SJK SJK SJK!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Makeup call there.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Nah Chambers was pulling up. And he had Rogers arm hooked not other way around. And yes Kool Aid Man was my last date. : )

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

D! D! D!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse


Methinks we all need to get used to this kind of game -- win or lose -- as the prototypical Redskins game this year.

Cardiac Kids, indeed....

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

9:47 p.m. in Spain on Sunday.

This time last year I had already given up on our season.

Posted by: LaVar Walt Clark | September 9, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It all comes down to JC now...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Cooley is going to come up big on this 2 minute drill drive.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

haiku, you are right my man. . .

it's goin to take a mjor step up in performance to have things be any different . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

We need a strong return from ARE...

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Ok here we go CMON JC!

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I bet Kansas City didn't expect that from Houston

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Damn I was hoping he might Romo that one for you. I smell a little OT!

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm KC got shelacked by Houston interesting.

I'm having a heart attack so I'm trying to calm myself down with innane information.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

we need to get to the 33 yrd line...48 yards needed

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse


May come down to Suisham....

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

meant o needs to step up .. .

grind it out . . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Porter makes his first play of the day - SJK

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse


St. Joe obviously preserving the over time option.....

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Are we playing for OT? What is up with these play calls.

Posted by: calebt17 | September 9, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Porter schooling Cooley this game, huh?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Be nice if GB can beat Philly too. Sorry Adam's kids.

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

what the crap are we running the ball for?? Saunders, where was this thinking on the 2nd and 7 last possession?

CRAP

Posted by: Greg(Boston | September 9, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Really, really perplexing series of calls. Huh?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

time for a fake punt!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

SJK!

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

not sure we shouldn't have sellars on j porter

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

oh, by the way - F XXX!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Bru-nell!!! Bru-nell!!! Bru-nell!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse


I hope old man Trent doesn't remember the magic...

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

i told you it was gonna be a close game!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Oooooh, Smoot! Aaargh!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh Smooty!

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse


arrrrrrrgggghhhhhhh SMOOT. SJKSJKSJK

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

WTF???

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh Smoot!

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

anyone know why springs isn't playing the corner?

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Lookes like Smoots been getting lessons from Carlos Roger on how to catch a freakin ball....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

well, it seems the defense didn't practice any sort of hands/catching drills this off season. Good grief.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Smoot has had such a horrid game he needed that interception.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse


I'm recalling Jasno's comments about lack of INTs.....DB lead hands kill us.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

hahaha oh sjk

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

WOW. Oh my goodness! These guys are KILLING ME!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

he shoulD HAVE GONE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FIELD!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

No way

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse


Wow. ARE. Wow. WOW.

Almost. WOW

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I call TAEDS

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

they actually called heads???

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Alright, let's do this. Come on JC, Weird Al, St. Joe. Redeem yourselves.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Here's why things are turning our way. Last year Smoot wouldn't have even had a chance at the INT.
Second no way would that Hail Mary have had that kind of crazy chance ending.
Third we'd have lost the coin toss in OT.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

They are showing the game here now. Damn I can't believe ARE got that.

Posted by: JM220 | September 9, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

methinks its oye como va time . . .

you can't him down for this long. . .

dude is $

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

ARE could've walked in to the endzone

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

This is hard on me ticker!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

How hard is it to hand hte ball off to CP?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

No need to rush or push this drive in OT. Let's do it solid and let's make sure we get a chance to win.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

3 yards and a cloud of dust + FG. . .

or, short screen goes the distance . ..

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

i hear ya diddy...i hear ya

i 'been screaming at the tv ever since the first INT by JC....

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Portis is definitely washed up . . . oh yeah

where are the idiot haters hiding?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

they need to keep portis on the field

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

They needed to leave cp in there

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I mean, really. CP is the franchise. He is the man. Give him the ball. Please. Please. Please Weird Al, I beg of you.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

When was the last time we had 400yds in offense?

I'm still having a heart attack.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

There he is. COOOOOOOOOOOOOLEY!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

COOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

that's one way to beat a blitz.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

JC beats the blitz . . .

people that's progress!!!!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Samuals got KTFO!!!!

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Okay AWESOME! Betts lays out Samuels!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse


Breathing, breathing....

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I think the only thing keeping Betts out of the end zone on that last play was Samuels

Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Is that red line the "target line"? That's anoying.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

need a 1st here!!!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Portis is ROCKIN" IT!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Not a Broncos fan but heck of an ending in their game

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

RUN THEM TO THE GROUND!!!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

JLaC needs to do some serious mea culpa'ing.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, give me big al's phone#

I'm calling him too!!!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

All you CP haters I want to hear it now! Say jm220 you told us so!!!

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

jon jansen anyone???

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

what are they doing? miami is gasping for AIR!!!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Please please please please please please . . . . . ..

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm...SwissHam better make this one...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse


A 40 yarder? Interesting decision....

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Keep running the damn ball!!!

What is going on???

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I feel sick... I'm pretty sure St. Joe's not watching this kick.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

seriously i'm gonna kill gibbs if he misses this fg

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

MONEY!!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Eagles lose

Posted by: BT | September 9, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Oh man, this is insane. If the season is going to be like this every game, I may have to do a heck of a lot more drinking.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Yessss!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mofass | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

SWISS HAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse


And that's why *I* am not in the HOF and St. Joe is....

HAIL!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Yea!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

WE HAVE A KICKER!!!! we need a punter and an offensive coordinator!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

and this is why we don't have novack :)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Thank SJKing God

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Good win. Congrats to the person who predicted 15-13!

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Skins Win!!!

Posted by: BT | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

God Joe made me nervous, but I love him!

All the haters are officially fired from this blog!

Posted by: JC in NC | September 9, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Screw it, I'm going outside and playing football.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse


That would have been good from 50....

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I am going to go lay down now.

Posted by: SonicJones | September 9, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Smack:

don't take this the wrong way, but I love the fact that we picked up up swissham from the cowpokes, may make up for te david akers fiasco!!!!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

correction we need a punter but do NOT need an offensive coordinator. that boy needs to go!

CINDY BOREN FOR OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

GO SQUISHY!!!!!!!!!!

AND PORTIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't think I can handle this week in and week out....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Gotta head down to Qwest Field. Will blog away via iPhone if I feel so compelled.

Good day everyone :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The title of Jasno's next 12 threads will be -

Mea Culpa
Mea Culpa #2
Mea Culpa Trois
Mea Culpa Quattro
Mea Culpa V
etc etc etc

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

i'm going revel in this a bit...i'm not leaving this room or this bed...for another hour...i need to hug it out with you guys!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse


Hail to the Redskins!
Pack beats division favorite!
Good day all around!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 9, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Man what a game. CP 17 carries 98 yards. 5.8 yards per carry. I love it when I am right.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey halftime poopy panters SUCK IT!

S-U-C-K I-T!!

Yes I am now officially 13 years old!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

8K, after all the deadbeats we've sent you, I don't mind one paying off for you now and then.

Hopefully we join you at 1-0 while the Iggles and Gmen wallow at 0-1.

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

These are the types of games we lost this year...Good Job Jason Campbell and the Redskins...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Victory.
Eagles LOSE!

Posted by: LaVar Walt Clark | September 9, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

good news is that neither one of those INTs was on JC. the first one was a bad play call plus cooley sort of gave up on the route.

second INT was ALL on THE receiver-NOT!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Woo hoo, we are undefeated 1-0. Sloppy game but hey a win's a win up here. They really fought their guts out.

Posted by: calebt17 | September 9, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Where's that Redcoat guy? Ronnie Brown really looked good today:-)

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

hey JLC, how about that O-line depth???!!!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

sloopy works for me - they can win as many sloppy games as they want!

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Gameball: Either Stephen Heyer alone or give it the O-Line

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Umm Shaun Suisham looks like he's 12 and a craptastic interview but WHO CARES! WOOOO

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat was last seen running out of FedEx naked, after being stripped of his Dolphins jersey by ecstatic Redskins fans!

Posted by: New flash | September 9, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Smack:
I love the pokes vs. jints only the following can happen:

1. pokes lose
2. jints lose
3. neither the pokes nor the jints win

from my perspective all three are great results for us!!!

should be a good game, frankly methinks the jints are way over-rated, but we'll see. . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Giants and Cowboys beat the crap out of each other tonight...With the Eagles loss today, their going to come out desperate next Monday night...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Gints are gonna be horrid.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Gameball definitely goes to Squishy.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse


And now for the first Limerick Award to the "Most Valuable Under-the-Radar Redskin"...

With many regrets to our host
I'd like to propose a toast:
On an un-drafted flier
The Redskins went Heyer
So Jasno, prepare for the roast....

Posted by: HaikuMan/LimerickMan | September 9, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Gints could pull it out. Cowpokes have key injuries on both sides of the ball.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If anyone cares, Adam Archuleta already has 3 tackles 6 minutes into the game...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

That big Dolphin rushing attack went 20 carries for 66 yards.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Big suprise...Arch Deluxe just got burnt out in pass coverage (well, by Gates, but still)

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

keepin' score:

jasno was right the we shouldn't worry bout thiss team being able to run the ball. . .

jasno was way wrong about CP

jasno was way wrong (so far) about the kickers. . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Anon, we know Arch can tackle against the run....he just cant release to cover anyone on a passing down.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Well I was a little off on the offense, but it was enough. It was actually not bad in yardage even though we had the OT to add 60 or so yards. Clinton will be sore tomorrow, but he looked fine today! Campbell is exactly what we think, not ready for prime time, but close enough to continue to learn on the job. Smoot is also what we thought, not that good but an upgrade to Wright from last year. And finally, many people said JAnsen would be the first O-line to go down, but my boy Stephon Heyer is a stud! The good is it looks like we might actually be in condition as we were much the fresher team at the end on a very hot day. The bad, we continue to let turnovers get away. We must get them when they hit us in the chest FRED SMOOT. This was one you had to have as a W if you are predicting 10-6 or better and they got it. Right on schedule, Oh and the Iggles lost to lowly GREEN BAY. Can it get better? Only if the girls and the midgits (or is it dwarfs?) play to a 3-3 tie! HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Portis and Randy Moss both go to show the preseason don't meant sh*t.

Who starts at RT next week?

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

To all Protis haters who say Betts is better...I simply stat this...

Portis 17 Carries 98 yards TD

Betts 17 Carries 59 yards 1 catch 16 yards.

And Portis play a lot less

Posted by: Leevi | September 9, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Wade probably starts next week in place of jansen, but my boy STEPHON HEYER is a STUD, especially when he doesn't have to cover soups blind side on the right. By the way, how did Kendall look. He must have been OK as I didn't hear his name and they ran to his side a lot. HAIL!

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Whenever a FG is blocked in the US, Leon Lett stirs from his sleep.

58-0 Dallas.

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Smoot dropped the damn ball because he tried to catch it against his chest. You are supposed to catch the ball with your HANDS.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah Heyer did a fantastic job ...


My take after the first half was they did finally execute plays and the Offense did show a ton of improvement over last year considering it's the first game...It was a rough start but they started getting there chops together...It can only get better from here.....

Campbell definitely needs to work on his medium throws...

Overall..I think they look a ton better on both sides of the ball....but I was worried in that first half..but they responded...

HAIL

Posted by: Leevi | September 9, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

btw, lowly Green Bay was 8-8 last year, weren't they? Maybe not so lowly after all.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

St. Joe giving big props to CP, ARE and Heyer in the presser.

Oh and first sentence outta his mouth - "We had a bunch of guys fighting their guts out."

: )

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Why does somebody have to be a Portis "hater" to be a Betts fan? Never understood that. Fact is that over the long haul, your primary back should get the stats as Ladell did over the long haul last year and portis does when he is the featured back. i think we are all glad that Clinton had a great OT, but before that it was pretty darn even. i am just glad joe went for the field goal instead of giving any one of them a chance to fumble. Portis hasn't taken enough hits, Betts averages a fumble a game, and soup hasn't held on to it very well in the preseason, so it was a wise move. I hold my breath evey time this Suisham kid lines up though. Still not sold on him, but tonight he is the toast of the town!

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Lets end this BS Betts v Portis crud...we need both....both rule...great 1-2 punch...

F ALL PORTIS HATERS


HAHAHAHAHAHA JANSO...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Presser - Props to Betts and Soups too. Thinks Soups is a guy who could be a leader here a long time.

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

First game as a starter in a season opener - JC will be fine when he settles down a bit. Short passes are harder to throw when there is so much excitement inside. Give him time.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

to all you fools who argue the Betts Portis debate...pull you heads out of your arses...it doesnt matter...we've got an awesome set of backs to share carries and spell each other all season...who cares who starts...its a killer 1-2 punch combo...thunder and lightning!!!

and we could lose one to injury and still have 1 good back left! but having two and sharing the load probably means they have a better chance of staying healthy...

Posted by: deadskin | September 9, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

AJ sorry to inform you. But before the OT CP had 20 yards more than Betts on one less carry. We need both and happy that we have both. But Betts is no CP. I for one is very happy that CP is our starting rb.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I repeat and stand behind the "LOWLY GREEN BAY PACKERS" They play in the weakest division in football. Take anyone from the east and switch places with GB. Green Bay goes 5-12 and the east team you send goes at least 11-5 and finishes 1st or 2nd, with due respact to Chicago. If you think they are any better than that, well you haven't been watching. Go look at their stats for the same score game as ours.

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Coach Joe should have seen us blogging our guts out up here. And only XXX Radio dropped the ball as badly as Smoot.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Portis and Randy Moss both go to show the preseason don't meant sh*t.

Who starts at RT next week?

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 04:33 PM

Portis - Yes. But Moss looked like he could have use a little preseason with those couple of key dropped passes today.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

How big of a loss is the injury to Jansen?

Do you think we upgraded our play at RT by him getting hurt??? I've read several reports about Jansen's play declining and some ppl within in the organization questioning why he even got a contract extension...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

yeah Aj, okay, whatever

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

jansen is done for the year - wade and heyer will earn their checks.

Posted by: xxx | September 9, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

xxx pick another name. I still pissed about you droping during the game. WTF was that?

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

wow Springs found out today that he wasn't starting...what's up with that?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Heyer looked really good today AND against Jason Taylor, DPOY. Him plus Wade. I'm not worried about the Jansen loss at the least bit.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Beats me, jm - XXX really SJKed it today - maybe they thought it was still training camp.

Posted by: the artist formerly known as xxx | September 9, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

4:51 - Springs may not have started today but after seeing double move get burnt all day, he better be starting next week.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Go Tiger!

Posted by: the artist | September 9, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

My apologies genius, I didn't think anyone would think one was that much better than the other because of one play, which was the difference in their yardage. and it was not a 20 yard difference. Portis had 34 yards in OT and he out gained Betts by 39. It was not a dominant performance by either, but as I said, I am ecstatic that he had it left in the tank at the end to have a superior OT. I will take it. And as I also said, being a Betts fan is not the same as being a Portis hater. Get over yourself, THE TEAM had what? 190 yards rushing? Don't worry, be happy! HAIL!

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

C. Portis 17 98 1 19
L. Betts 17 59 0 11
J. Campbell 4 29 0 13
M. Sellers 2 8 0 4
A. Randle El 1 -3 0 -3

Time for Big Al to rip that End Around page out of the playbook

Posted by: the artist | September 9, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Lol...Shawn Springs: "smoot says sitting next to Carlos Rogers has caused him to start dropping interceptions"...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

No arguing allowed on this gloriuos day. Unless it's with Redcoat or SMACK regarding how much their respective teams stink.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Okey dokey I need to go out into the world and try to accomplish things that will keep me alive until next week's game.

Great opening day!!!

HTTR!!!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 9, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Not syced about the way we played, but we're 1-0 and 1-0 is 1-0.

Posted by: Jason not LaCanfora | September 9, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Agree drop the vitrol against each other...

Save it for Redcoat.....and even Janso...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I think they have treated Springs badly for almost 2 years. They got an injury prone player when they signed him and we all knew it. Then we got two very good years from him. He returned to his injuries last year and knowing his career might be coming to a close, couldnt afford the pay cut they asked him to take. Now he is out of favor. They hoped Smoot could be the answer since for no reason the fans seem to like him and they could cut him at the end of the year. i really hope there is some other reason for our best cover corner to sit while the guys on the field are getting burned and that by next week we get over it. Maybe he broke some team rule or something. Anything other than them thinking Rogers and Smoot are the answer. This isn't very positive I know, but this thing has been brewing at the park for a long time after he didn't come to off season stuff and was out part of the pre-season with his wife. Not blaming him for that, but it all adds up to your boss, and we all know how his is about loyalty. maybe he will offer him a TV too. I hope not.

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Swiss Ham 3/3!!!

Anyone remember seeing that shovel pass even once last year? Not me. A welcome addition.

Posted by: RMilot | September 9, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

can we save the kevetching for like wednesday?!?!?!?! I saw springs flying around...maybe he was motivated...

WHO CARES LETS ENJOY AND SAVE THE OTHER STUFF FOR THE UPCOMING WEEK


jeesh...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Can't we all just abong!

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

AJ I live in NJ and had to follow the game on ESPN game cast that shows the stats. CP had more yards than Betts way before OT my friend. You say that CP had gain yards in OT but so did Betts. But I guess that too much of rocket science for you to put together.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Chargers O look like we did under Norv. I bet they are hating having him as head coach right about now.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

both backs brought heat.....

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

GO TIGER!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

jm220: i agree norv will ruin chargers...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow. What a terrible tragedy if that maturing juggernaut of a team should fall victim to . . . Norvalization!!!

Posted by: RMilot | September 9, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

LOL are you a minister chris larry? if so go to church where everyone is nice to everyone, at least on sunday. you have something to add ok, but why post just to try to be peacemaker when there is no peace to make? we are having a debate which has points on each side. i am enjoying it. If you are not, pass over the thread. Its easy. Now get off our asses ok? if you want to do nothing but bask in a 3 point win in OT over a terrible team with a first year coach, a poor O-line, and a QB with happy feet and a soft skull, fine, that is ok with everyone, but leave everyone else alone that has something intelligent to discuss. HAIL!

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Playing devil's advocate here but the Chargers ARE playing the Bears. No surprise it's a low scoring game.

Don't get me wrong though. Norv is no good.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

merriman needs to get back on the andro

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

There's the Rex Grossman we all know and love.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

true enough, but LT 9/-1?

Posted by: RMilot | September 9, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Man I'm glad we don't have Rex Grossman as our QB.

Posted by: calebt17 | September 9, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Someone please explain to me how Rex is still the starting qb.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

ohhhhhh my god what an ending it would've been if antwan randel el would get that hail mary to a touch down

still a good win

Posted by: kirubel94 | September 9, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

That's what LT gets for skipping preseason. Who does he think he is? Clinton Portis:-)

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Lets hear it for 1-0. And as its cowpoys, gnats I am rooting for the refs to eject the two teams for 3 games.

Posted by: 35332 | September 9, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

sorry AJ trying to enjoy a win for a few hours, saving waiting to wade through the muck until the work week starts...

here some preachin for u to pass over on thread:

f aj, king of all dueche bags!

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

kirubel94 - I'm glad it ended the way it did. If that would have happened then all of the haters (Redcoat) would have said that it was luck.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

AJ you know there is nothing but love up in here. As long as we can be respectful of each other.

F Norv.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

The PDX meet-up was happenin, but even the die-hard fans know an ugly win.

Posted by: Stumped | September 9, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Damn Rex is the worst damn starter I ever seen.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

bigfish - Didn't see any of NE, just saw Moss with his 9 recs for 180 and they won. Good day even if he dropped some.

Portis is a better back than Betts no question. But splitting those carries is gonna help us long term.

We should be feeling great even if the W was ugly. 1-0 way better than 0-1

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

cdubb - not talking about NE. I meant Santana Moss.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

As suspected, Jansen has a dislocation and a fracture.

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update Cyn Cyty. I think that is one place we can afford an injury.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Nice to be able to say that, huh jm.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I know this is bringing up stuff that I'm sure was covered an hour ago, but I just gotta say:

I'm proud of Portis for stepping up and delivering in the face of biased criticism. The running game was very gratifying.

The passing had some bright moments too. And I don't think anyone can deny the potential Soup is revealing.

Santana could have had another catch or two, but that ARE can be somethin' special, can't he?!

1-0 baby & feelin' FINE!

Good Game Dolphins!

Posted by: The AMAZING Dik Shuttle | September 9, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what happened with Steve Czaban? He's not on the post game show. I couldnt stand him so I'm not complaining. Just wondering what happened?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Woooo Hooo! Yep Fed Ex fans represented today. Lots o' questions I know. D-Backs, etc. But not today, lets just enjoy! YEAH BABY!

Posted by: Club 320 | September 9, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

cdubb - not talking about NE. I meant Santana Moss.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 05:33 PM


Gotcha, I only mentioned the NE WR along with CP for the comparison of the bs preseason. Yeah, Santana didn't do sh*t. Nice to see ARE with a decent opener though.

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I dont understand your point JM220. Actually they both performed better in OT than they did during the game. Can you say, O-line play? Are you trying to say that portis had a good game and betts did not? Are you trying to prove how great Portis is or that he even had a very good game? I am not sure because you are making none of them.

I have two points that have failed to be addressed yet. The first is that Portis did not have a good game before the overtime. He had about 64 yards, 19 on one carry that he ran through a hole a truck could drive through (GREAT JOB O-LINE and SELLERS!!), the second point is the question I had from the first thread. It answered the post that said "to all you Portis haters", and the post was, why you cannot be a Betts fan, without being a "Portis hater". So far I have heard nothing to this. I LOVE Clinton Portis, and I LOVE the trade that brought him here. Bailey wasn't staying for any amount of money, and we get an all-pro home run hitting RB that we needed instead of a long hold-out and lose him for nothing. I also am not willing to say because Portis gained 64 yards in regulation that he is that much better right now than the guy who got over 800 yards in the last 7 games of last year plus today, when there was noone to rest him and we were behind in most games last year limiting his carries. As I said, I LOVE portis and hope he gaines 2000 yards this year, but there is no reason to put the other guy down, or any fan that likes the guy who stood up last year, plays whenever asked with no argument, practices every day, plays every pre-season game, stayed for less money than he could have gotten elsewhere when everyone else is mad that we give free agents more than our own (include me with those people - See Pierce, Clark, multiple O and D line).

Try and see past your heart. If your point is only that Portis had more yards, there is no arguing that, but what does that mean? I stand by that NEITHER of them had a game worth poop until the OT, where I believe the O-line shined. On the bright side, neither fumbled or made any bone head plays, and with this D, that may be enough, but lets let somebody have a good game and seperate themselves from the field before we start putting up "hater" posts. This is all I have to say on this, respond if you have any cogent point at all, but I am tired now. HAIL TEAM!

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I just picked up on that myself. R Moss did do well along with CP. Funny that the only player that skipped preseason and isn't doing to well is LT but he is playing against da Bears.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Cris LArry, good comeback. Just what I would expect from someone without a brain, name calling instead of intelligent conversation or debate. Even used a french word, nice job.

Posted by: AJ | September 9, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Aj - Just drop it. Considering the amount of carries that bot Betts and CP had, they both had good games. Although I will argue that if Portis would have had some of those carries that Betts had we wouldn't have had to worry about OT. We would have flat out won in regulation. I saw Portis break or spin out of some tackles that Ladell would have never done. I also saw Betts get tackled at or behind the line on some plays that Portis would have picked up a nice gain. I love both of them but there's no doubt that Portis is the better RB and I won't even waste my finger muscles arguing with anyone on that fact.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

f norv

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Detroit up 17-0 on a good Oakland Defense. Calvin Johnson has 58 yards and TD. Roy Williams has a TD too. Detroit may not a cakewalk afterall...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

The refs in the SD/Chicago game just rotaly SJKed that call up. Dude was way offisides. That's a shame.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

rotaly=totally

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

rotaly=totally

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 06:03 PM

Unless you're Scooby Doo.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

You guys should check out CP interview on redskins.com. He is bring the heat

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Go back and read AJ, I was supporting you saying that we need portis and betts, that they are complimentary, and that we need both as evidenced today. Its a bogus arguement to pitt them against each other

But brutha after a win, with you 18 paragraphed posts and your insistence to argue dubious points you get old..

My point was lets celebrate a tough, dirty victory b/c I dont know about u my man but they have been few and far between and I for one wouldn't mind enjoying it for a few hours without playing point counter point over some stupid SJK..

If that makes me loser polyanna, moron so be it...have at bro....

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

The refs in the SD/Chicago game just rotaly SJKed that call up. Dude was way offisides. That's a shame.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 06:02 PM

Yeah it really is

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

jm - Do you have a link to the Portis interview? I don't see it.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Norv brings bad luck upon himself...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

That's wierd. I realize I live in TX but when I go to redskins.com and even refresh a couple of times there were no interviews on there from today. The last one was 9/7.

Thanks jm!

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

chris Larry you said it all. AJ, sorry if your fantasy league didnt get pumped up with the numbers. This is PRO ball folks, a win is a win. Thats why we dont need an Ol Ball coach. We just need to win baby. Who gives a rats SJK SJK how it happened. Can we please enjoy for a day? Ahem, sorry, I am drunk, elated and sunburnt...

Posted by: Club 320 | September 9, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

CP definitely bringing the heat!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

This damn CP interview makes me want to suit up and get out there and fight my SJK out. Chemistry seems like it's pretty damn good right now. I'm even more pumped now! Everyone should listen to this. You da man jm!

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Bigfish it does make you want to suite up. I told everyone that he was going to be fine. It was just going to be a matter of getting over the soreness.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

JLC's slash and burn job on Heyer in the preseason isn't looking particularly prescient at the moment.

Posted by: Todd | September 9, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

listening the the Soup interview now. He definitely is a country boy.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

anyone know what was up with LL this game? I didn't hear his name called once on tv and i saw pp in there

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Dante as CL said let's just enjoy the win. How many close games have we lost in the last 3-4 years? It feels good to win one and I am just going to enjoy it.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Dante he was in on a few plays

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Dante: He had 1 tackle and 2 asst tackles....

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

LL was in there much more than PP. I only really noticed PP in there more later in the 4th quarter.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

AP update on Jansen:
LANDOVER, Md. (AP) -- Washington Redskins right tackle Jon Jansen could be out for the year after breaking his right ankle in the second quarter of Sunday's season opener against the Miami Dolphins.
"It was pretty serious," coach Joe Gibbs said. "We are just going to have to wait and see what the doctor says."
Jansen was hurt when he was sandwiched between defensive end Matt Roth and linebacker Zach Thomas, who rolled onto Jansen's legs while sacking Jason Campbell. Jansen immediately yanked off his helmet and grabbed his face in agony as his teammates quickly surrounded him.
"He was laying right there beside me hollering," Campbell said. "I knew it was something bad. I looked at his foot, and I turned and didn't look at it any more."
Jansen was carted off the field and managed to raise his right fist to salute the crowd as he entered the tunnel.
Stephon Heyer, a rookie free agent from Maryland, took Jansen's place for the rest of the game, which the Redskins won 16-13 in overtime. Heyer had subbed for left tackle Chris Samuels during preseason when Samuels was sidelined with a sprained knee.
"It takes away a little bit from the win," right guard Randy Thomas said. "I'm down about that. That's a blow, man. That's a rock."

Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

jm220 i am enjoying the win... i was just curious about LL

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Jansen getting injured could be a blessing in disguise. One injury prone old guy on the decline out and one young rookie who does a pretty SJK good job on the ascent in. I'm just sayin...

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

big fish i hear ya...and our line didnt seem to lose a beat but i dont want to count losing a warrior a blessing..

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Good point CL. That's why it's "in disguise". Like jm220 said before in a round about way. Tackle is one place where we are deep with Heyer and Wade.

I'm raising my glass right now to an injury free season from now on.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Terrence Newman OUT tonight...

I think this is going to be a season long issue for cowpukes....

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat....calling Redcoat??!!

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

etrod asked a good question earlier.

Remember on a 1 and 20 and Betts got stuffed for a one-yard loss on a sweep left? He jumped up all pissed. And the camera switched and I could have sworn it showed Betts *waiving Portis off*

I had no idea Betts had that kind of power. Not that I'm complaining. I'm just sayin'. Did anyone else see Betts waive off Portis, or are etrod and I imagining things???

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Washington Redskins right tackle Jon Jansen could be out for the year after breaking his right ankle ...
"It was pretty serious," coach Joe Gibbs said. "We are just going to have to wait and see what the doctor says."

________________________________________________________________

Now, where are all those "experts" who worried about Heyer protecting Jason Campbell in preseason? Sheesh looks like
Buges earned his pay this this year. Not only do they have 1
tackle as backup but TWO. Once Wade gets past his injury.
Wade was considered better than Jansen last year.

Looks like someone was smart enough to worry about tackles as well as guards.

Looks like they will be looking for tackles ... Armstrong?

What's really bad about this is that this was an almost meaningless game. A game which was obviously an extension of preseason for both teams. And I don't think saying Portis
has lost a step after watching him in his first preseason game is fair. You need to let him get into football shape first. And that will take more than one game.

The defense did GREAT as envisioned! The offense needed another preseason game as feared. The special teams did their job.

Posted by: periculum | September 9, 2007 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Perci,

I just can't accept this was a meaningless game.....thats just straight ridiculous....

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Perci,

I am with you on the o-line/"experts" rant...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Jason La Canfora The Hack sure likes like a total fraud today, doesn't he?

Let's review: JLC claims Heyer has no business getting first team reps in pre-season, but low and behold it's a damn good thing he got all that PT with the 1st team in pre-season, now that he's the replacement for Jansen (and performed well at that).

More embarrassment for JLC is how well Portis played today. JLC has been BSing us for weeks about how Portis's health and lack of preseason snaps is a real issue, but low and behold again, it turns out the only REAL issue around here is that JLC is still working for the Post.

Posted by: Bethesda, Md | September 9, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

SC, I saw him wave Portis off. He wanted another chance to knock some heads. I'm so glad we have a two headed monster. Smash mouth football.

Posted by: calebt17 | September 9, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

No NFL game is meaningless when you only play 16. JJ going down stinks most with his new contract. That is 2 early season ending injuries. He is done but HAIL to him for a good career. We'll be fine with Wade and Heyer.

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Did no one else see Portis almost throw away our chance at the FG? I was listening to the game on the radio while I watched since we always get crap TV personalities and Sonny and Sam were all over it. After his last carry that put us safely in Suishams range, instead of giving the ball to an official or just putting it down, he spins it at a Dolphin. I like Clinton but hat smacks of dare I sy it, Micheal Westbrook? Actually wasn't ot the last Miami game that he took off his helmet and cost us 15 yards and a winning field goal? Thought so. Come on Clinton, you are going to get the ball alot at the end of games, lets play a little smarter than that before somebody gets hurt, like your team and the fans.

Posted by: Monster | September 9, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION NYC PEEPS:

Hill Country was a perfect spot. I spent the 1st quarter at Red Sky standing and feeling uncomfortable. Rest of the game a few blocks away at Hill Country. Huge space, beautiful, great food, Huge tv and the owner is 100% a Redskins guy. I talked to his wife.

AMTTS has a NY Redskins home. I encourage all to join.

Game thoughts:

1) Smoot looked like he couldn't start for most college teams. They threw to wherever he was at will. Embarrassing (never mind the pick that should have ended it)

2) The D is good but its still not good enough to shut down the better offenses in the league. Still not much in the way of creating havoc.

3) Rocky Macintosh is a grown a$$ man. Wow.

4) Heyer played well filling in.

5) I am TERRIFIED every time we drop back to pass. I do not believe this feeling will cease this year.

6) The O is just not good enough. No rhythm. Bad passes, dropped passes, missed blocks (cooley a few times). I don't know how we'll be able to put up points on philly/dallas etc.

7) I think I had a heart attack.

Hail

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | September 9, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

707

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I want Janso on the beat...butt...bethesda raises some good points..

Also don't forget the "Golston is the starter" quote from him his chat, and he was snotty about it as well..although he did mea culpa that...

I really like Janso's writing, not in love with him as skins beat writer. My vote make him a columnist.....

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

All the negativity is bringing me down. I'm off for the night to relish in this victory. I'll be back when it's time to talk about next week. We're going to beat the Eaglets!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

God I hate Bob Costas.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Really Diddy????? I have always liked him....

but whateves HTTR!

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

What's happened to Redskins.com, they seem to be having techincal difficulties. Can't access any coverage of the game today.

Posted by: grimey1972 | September 9, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Finally some sanity. Nice post Art. Thanks for the info about NYC I live in North Jersey and need a place to sing hail to the redskins. I am not as terrified as you are at the passing game unless you mean you think he is going to get killed and then we have no QB at all, and I don't think Santana has completely forgotten how to play, though you couldn't prove it by todays game. The O-line is the big story, as they go, the running game goes, and I don't think it will take as long this year for Joe to go to the run as it did last year. Cooley will be OK too I think. The defense is a pretty big question mark. They did OK against an offense still learning itself, but against an established O, we are in trouble. Smoot and Rogers cant catch a cold and might not be able to cover you or I. Landry had a solid first game though I thought, and as long as Taylor keeps making the sports Center hits at least we will be entertained. We will all be asking by game three why again we didn't get anybody to rush the passer? Oh and because we are skins fans, we will also be screaming about Wynn and Marshall by then too. But a win is a win and we are at least tied for first today.

Anybody else think the Eagles in Philly on MNF just might be a little bigger challenge than a last place team with a new QB and Head Coach? Oh yeah I am thinking motivation to not go 0-2 might play into it as well. Of course they are in last place. LOL good blogging all.

Posted by: Art Monk to the HOF | September 9, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Smug little twit. Great journalist, though. Definitely have to give him that.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Redskins in top 4 in 4 out of 6 team stats today. HAIL!!

http://www.nfl.com/stats/team

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat went to the game, so, given traffic, he's probably getting to his car right about now.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

"We will all be asking by game three why again we didn't get anybody to rush the passer?"

Carter - 1 sack and I saw a few QB pressures.

McIntosh - 1 sack.

Can we just enjoy the damn win for now?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - 7:56 was me. I'm gone now.

Posted by: bigfish | September 9, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

really concerned to hear about shawn springs...he is the best corner on the D. smoot and double were getting burnt on short stuff. and the PI on double was so bogus!

but i'm sorta encouraged by JC. i thought he improved a lot from last season. he REALLY needs a big receiver and needs to stop throwing passes behind the receiver. he sees the field vertically very well but has problem with horizontal stuff (slants).

they need to give the ball to CP and let betts be a speller. CP IS THE MAN!

and this arguement: "The first is that Portis did not have a good game before the overtime. He had about 64 yards, 19 on one carry that he ran through a hole a truck could drive through (GREAT JOB O-LINE and SELLERS!!),"

ummmm that's how good game breaker backs play. their charts usually look like 4 3 4 15 2 3 20 5 7 2 1 39...if you don't believe me go look at LT's chart today. the guy was shutout and all of a sudden BAM! that's what good backs do.

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Anybody knows who is leading in points in the Fantasy League.

O, and go skins! 1 down, 15 to go!

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 9, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

also that was a pretty good DolD. the second INT was a beauty.

and trent green's pretty nifty huh?

this is a good team people. anytime you can stop the run as they have been doing and run the ball yourself. you gotta chance to do somethings in this league. 14-2!!!!!

i just worry about play calling which was pretty bad today and this whole thing with shawn springs. they can NOT afford to have shawn not play corner. they're not THAT good.

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

campbell stinks, we need a new QB

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

what happened to springs?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

WOOHOO! Go Swish! Go Skins!!

4th - Nice score mate! Always good to start the season with a win!

Posted by: kost52 | September 9, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

This NBC pre-game show REALLY stinks. The attempts at humor are painful. The three players (Collinsworth, The Bus, Barber) are great. When Costas and Olbermann are on screen together, it's horrible. Ugh.

I actually want NFL Primetime back.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Dealer - Springs is getting old and they may be limiting his snaps early....

Posted by: 4th | September 9, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure it's been said, but this needs to be said again: If you don't like Jason's blog and don't feel like the information he shares is valuable--leave.

It's that simple. I know he doesn't care and he certainly doesn't need me or anyone else standing up for him--but I get sick of the hating. I can't stand when people hang around somewhere or participate in something and do nothing but complain about that place or that something they're doing.

I think we all know (if smart anyway) that Jason is sharing "inside" information at the cost of it sometimes being unreliable or inaccurate. That's the nature of the game. It's a blog. Sources and information don't need to be confirmed until put in a real story. I'd say that Jason is fairly accurate most of the time considering. Take the information and form your own opinion or decide if you think the Skins will win the next game or not. But I don't think this is the source of the hate.

For those who are unhappy that Jason isn't a Redskins fan and sometimes blogs things that wouldn't make the front page of the rahrahrah official team website--I have one question for you: What do you expect? 5-11 last year. The team has got a lot to prove. If I'm going to get inside information--I want it from an objective source.

Jason does a great job. Stop hating or leave. If you think you can get more accurate insider information, start your own blog. I won't read it. Later.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

peter king too. fat loser

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Shawn was on the post game show and said he did not find out until today that he would be playing nickel. He seemed ok with it but maybe was just playing nice. For the life of me I cannot understand why they did not start him.

Posted by: Lisa | September 9, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

"I'm sure it's been said, but this needs to be said again: If you don't like Jason's blog and don't feel like the information he shares is valuable--leave."

It didn't need to be said then, and it doesn't need to be said now. When a beat writer goes out of his way to create drama, and is proven to be ridiculously wrong, he is most certainly accountable for his actions.

This is a blog. It has comments. By nature, blogs are journal entries to be commented on by viewers of the blog. That includes praise as well as criticism for things he got absolutely wrong.

If you can't handle that, don't read the blog comments.

Posted by: Hmm | September 9, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

annonymous, re: springs i was just saying that i'm concerned that there might be some ruffled feathers with springs not starting. double G and him better play nice. hopefully st. joe can intervene here before it gets out of hand. a la rocky mcintosh (last year).

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

ok nyskins fan ok....i do think we can argue with especially when he says opinions..

i am not a janso htr, but sorry i ain't doling out hand jobs either when he has been wrong on some stuff..

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

what free agent QB's are out there? we need a new one

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Not that this probably hasn't been posted, but this is my take on the game (probably pretty captain obvious but who cares...)

1) Jason Campbell has to be better. I think he will be. He got better as the game got going. Showed moments that get you (got me) excited. Grade - B-/C+

2) Wasn't it AWESOME to see the Skins running the ball like the end of last season! Hopefully lots more of that to come!!! Grade - A

3) Run defense - excellent against a new O-line and what i wouldn't consider a top tier running back. But at least we stopped the run, all day! I think this part of the skins is real. Grade - A

4) Pass defense - wow, we stunk. Smoot couldn't seem to cover anyone and neither could Rogers. I was worried about that after Kerry Collins passed with ease in preseason game one. At least there were no really long plays that they gave up (like what happened last year ALL THE TIME). Grade - C/C+

5) Teams - Solid performance. Ted Ginn is going to be a good one. Suisham should have put everyone's worries to rest. He's the real deal and may be our Akers.... Grade - A

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Here's hoping the CowPukes get blown out tonight!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm greatly relieved that this is still Ooooour Country.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Hill Country, huh? What's the address. I'm going to the city for the Sept. 23 game.

BTW: Here's the scary truth from today: Randy Moss is the real deal again and in a big way with the Patriots. I was at a sports bar watching the Skins and the Jets game was the big featured game on the big screen...did you guys see that long TD he caught in triple coverage? He's sick. Brady and the Pats already were. What week do we play them?

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

and i agree with "hmmmmmmm" you can't say this is "jason's home" or "turf"....we come here because we read/like washingtonpost and this is ***SKINS Insider blog. not jason's.

i may hurt a few feelings up here but if steinberg or any other person was the RI it would be just as popular if not more...

in defense of jason. he doesn't have a partner. he was doing just fine but then howie left and all heck broke lose

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

What a great weekend for me! The Dutchies win, the Skins win their opener, the Cats kick a$$ in the first week of finals, the Wallabies destroy Japan in their RWC opener, Melbourne Storm destroy the Broncos in the first week of finals, and it looks like I might beat Redcoat in Fantasy Football!

Good times.

Posted by: kost52 | September 9, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

A couple of things.

1. We have every right to pull JLC coat when he is totally wrong like his comments about CP.
2. We knew double G ego was going to come into play sooner or later. Can't wait until we show his ass the door. SJK

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

i don't know who to root for with this game here...i think i'm gonna stick to the old rule and root for the giants

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Jasno was wrong about CP, and with what seems like for superficial reasons. Jasno could still end up being right about Heyer, but he was wrong today. Heyer played admirably for a rookie. There is no doubt that criticism was fully warranted last season (the team flat out sucked).

I also think Jasno's man-crush on the Ravens colors the tenor of his 'Skins articles. I don't think the Ravens are all that special, personally. Now, comparing the way they do things up in New England or (maybe) even in Indy with the way the 'Skins do things...that would actually make sense to me.

All of that said, I do appreciate the blog and I do hope the new Jason posts from time to time as well.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

jm220, awesome work today keeping the pro-CP energy.

I'm with you 100% on him. He's the man.

But CP "only" got 98 yards today, not 100 (referencing your 12:20 PM post), so I wonder if JLC will see fit to acknowledge that he was wrong about CP.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

is anyone else actually rooting for giants tonight?

i am here is why

1. i hate the cowboys amongst all other teams
2. i think the giants are gonna suck, while dallas will be decent so a jints win here stimies cowboys without bolster ny to much...
3. to switch the national press from luvers to "whats wrong in big d"

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Forgot to mention about Jansen...

Bummer. Probably gone for the year. Heyer played well, it looked like.

And I too am at a loss as to why Springs wasn't in there more. Seriously.

I was watching Gibbs show last night and he was asked, in essence, why Rocky Mac didn't play last year. He said that from top to bottom (fans, players, coaches) he would have liked to have had Rocky in there more last year. Noted him being the leading tackler in the two games he did start.

Seems every year, Grilliams has one play on his SJK list. Can't imagine Springs having done worse than Smoot.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

campbell must go!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

jm220, we really need to hook up in an alley somewhere...cuz i'm going to beat you up! especially cuz your boy weird al almost cost us the game and now you're hatin on double g already! eventhough there is a cause to be concerned ;)

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm rooting for the Earth to open up and swallow both teams whole.

I can't be the only one here who wants to smack Tony Romo in the teeth...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

AHAHA Cowboys toasted. I love the Cowgirls getting burnt almost as much as a Redskins score.

Okay, not really, but it does make me happy.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

too many gosh darn chefs in this kitchen. but i have faith in st. joe to keep them in line.

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:30 PM | Report abuse

yo nyskinsfan...

what bar were you at today?!?! sounds like the one I was at...did we hang today?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 8:30 PM | Report abuse

And while we did get a couple of sacks, the pressure up front without blitzing wasn't really there. And it didn't seem that they blitzed that much (but it was probably as well, because Smoot would have been beat long if we didn't get there).

One thing I will say that I was very pleased with, that is MUCH improved over last year, was the tackling. From top to bottom the team tackled well. Even after he got smoked a dozen times, Smoot didn't miss the tackle.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

cL, EXACTLY! i was just too lazy to write all that...

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

A couple of other observations....

- Cooley really didn't block well against the linebackers. His assignment sure seemed to be making a lot of tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage.

- Thank goodness the Dolphins dropped all those balls or it might have been a different game.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

how the cfk did they miss a PAT? is it cuz the gints are pathetic?

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Nice call on the final score, Diddy.

Diddy: 15-13

Game: 16-13

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

And I DO think that we're going to be competitive. I think that this will be JC's worst game. I think the offense has something to build on....

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

One other thing....

Was anyone else as happy as me to see Archibingus get beat by the Chargers repeatedly???

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Is it actually possible to go through a single day without using a product that is endorsed by Peyton Manning?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying leave because I don't want to hear it. Not because this is anyone's turf. Blog postings detract in this order:

1. '1sts' and 'who farted' and other nonsense blogged by dorks who probably have like 30 different computers with 6 windows open each who will probably infect my PC with a virus right after they read this -- something that just comes with popular blogs I guess.

2. Uninformed posters who obviously don't know very much about football and constantly engage in arguments for the sake of arguing and don't follow points made and keep changing the subject as a means to save face.

3. Posters who harbor ill will to a point where they seem downright angry with JLC.

If I want ignorant and emotionally challenged opinions coming from loudmouth taking heads, I'll watch fox news or espn. Don't take things so personal and just keep the hate out of it. That's all I ask. I'm obviously not going to be able to stop anyone from getting offended and spewing hatred--so I guess I'm just putting it out there that it bothers me and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

CL are you serious?

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

We were all hoping for a tie tonight.
(oh, and lots and lots of injuries)

Posted by: Stumped | September 9, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Hornitos, Diddy?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 9, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I am also a CP doubter and glad to say that I am wrong. I'll lay off the guy for a while. What the hell do we need to do to get a decent CB?

Is it safe to call "double move" a bust at this point? Whaddaya think?

Overall, I am happy to get a win. Enjoy my first time at the stadium. Thanks for those who recommended that I take the metro.

Good night all.

Posted by: Stop | September 9, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

yeah...I was at 205th in the BK...just wonderin if you were there from your description...

And for the record I 80% agree with you on JLC....but I think its ok to argue with him and call him out....on football terms...not all personal and angry guy crud...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Well I guess that still doesn't answer the question. But if you had enough tequila then you wouldn't care how many Peyton-sponsored products you used that day...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 9, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

has there ever been a more pathetic leader of a team than eli manning?

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

baby brother manning needs to hit the weight room he still looks like he's 14!

Posted by: david | September 9, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

skins rule!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

CL, I live in Westchester County. There are plenty of local places for me to hang up here. I make it into the city about 10 times a year.

I think we had about 150 rushing today right? Against Miami? I don't think that's too bad. Randal El stepped up today, but I still think JC could use a 6'7" possesion guy, no? We should try to lure Keyshawn back.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Still can't believe they chose Wade Phillips as their head coach. Funny.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Dealer please. Explain why Springs wasn't starting. Double G as someone said earlier has one player every year.

Posted by: jm220 | September 9, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Santana dropped two passes.

Sloppy typical opening game.

It'll all be okay. You can't possibly have high expectations for a team that was 5-11 last year. Just enjoy the ride.

Remember, if they can get to 6-5 or 5-6, remain more or less healthy (beyond the Jansen injury), and if the D can stay dominant and the O can begin to gel, they can hand the ball off to CP and make a run at this. The NFC sucks and is wide open.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

It's a head-scratcher, Diddy.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Dame, there shall be no more Hornitos this month. Last night was plenty. Damn Gators fans.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Er, Wade Phillips as the Cowboys' choice to be their head coach, that is.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Since everything else has been covered, I'll just say that our cheerleaders didn't look very hot when they showed them going into commercial....very dissapointing.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 9, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

It has been said, but that Peyton Manning Sprint ad deserves some mention.

It's awful.

Creepy.

Incomprehensible.

Off-putting: a hotel corridor? WTF?

All those images are like some bizarro version of "The Shining."

Someone got paid for that concept? It made it through a review process? Holy cow.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

hmmmmmmmm i wonder if brunell was the #2 and if gibbs would've pulled JC...but didn't cuz collins was #2...

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Any of you watching this Sunday Nighter? Romo is like a poor man's Brett Favre just slinging pasees begging for some completions. I'm glad about our W but all these teams in The NFC are gonna be dirty every week.

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The cheerleaders need to come over to my place for some dance instruction. I really was terribly disappointed in their performance today.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

why your place pdiddy you selfish prick?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

jm220, i'm just messin with you...there is a cause for concern there. let's hope st. joe intervenes before it gets out of hand a la lavar. and i think it was me who mentioned rocky last year, lavar the year before and now springs.

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh c'mon Dealer! If you remember, Jason got hurt in the second preseason game and only played a few snaps in the final preseason game. And he has not played at all with the starting O line until today. Not to mention that this was his first time playing as a starting QB!

Posted by: Lisa | September 9, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

We shoud look at picking up Ed Hochules (sp?). Not sure which position he'll play, but he's pretty jacked and he refs his guts out.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

On the one hand, I'd love to see the Giants absolutely pummel the Cowboys. The pokes are our bigger threat this year, and it's fun to see them glum at home.

On the other hand, if the Giants beat them too badly, it might help push Jerry Jones to sanity. The longer he keeps Wade, the longer the Cowboys will disappoint. It would be nice to keep that going a while.

So, rationally: lose by a little, Cowboys.

But my heart says a wipeout would round off this Sunday quite nicely.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Watching Coughlin's apoplectic look amuses me to no end. I hope the Giants never fire the guy. 1) he's a horrible coach, and 2) he is incredibly fun to watch.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Depending on how this game goes, the NFC East could be looking at fewest points scored ever by a division on opening day.

...I admit that it's still a little early.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

After BBM, Brady and Palmer. Is LT the next best QB in the league??

Posted by: kost52 | September 9, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Ed Hochuli could play RT.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

A few observations:

Defense
corner is a serious weakness...why didn't Springs play more?

The lb's need to get better drops...the middle of the field was a problem last year and continues.

We need a better pass rush. Dolphins have one of the worst o-lines in the NFL and we get 1 sack? not good enough.

overall, lb's played well. strong tackling and forced a turnover.

our safeties are too intent on making big plays and not the smart ones. Sean Taylor has to be more disciplined.

Offense

we are a running team. this is Gibbs strength and we can't forget it.

JC is going to be fine. he's only played as a starter for a short time, but he clearly is poised and has a gun. we will have to be patient with him, but I believe he's going to be very good for a long time.

o-line needs to stay healthy rfom here on out.

ARE is going to have a great year.

Betts is an excellent back. but make no mistake, CP is in a different category. he has something only a handful of backs have: the ability to make something happen anytime he touches the ball. a game changer. thankful we have both, though.

receiver depth will be a problem.

Special Teams
Suisham is the real deal.

Coverage on kicks and punts scares the shti out of me.

HAIL SKINS!!

Posted by: cosmofla | September 9, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Our D will have to keep us in most games this year, but that's okay, they look up to it. JC will calm down a bit and start hitting the intermediate passes, and we'll keep slammin' CP and Betts up in there. Did you see Seller's hand Zach Thomas' jockstrap to him a couple of times? Good lord I would not want to see him heading my direction.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 9, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

lisa, i totally agree. i thought he played a good game. much better than i had expected. and i don't blame neither of the INTs on him.

i was just wondering if st. joe might've benched JC for brunell if brunell was #2 especially after the 2nd pick...

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

kost - Brees is the only other guy I'd mention without his opening performance. how did you check the game down under? streaming online radio?

Posted by: cdubb | September 9, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Did you just see that graphic on the "sheen" the ball had on it when Romo dropped it in the playoffs? That was hilarious. Can't anyone just screw anything up anymore without it becoming some cheesy graphic? I guess not.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 9, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

alright nyskinsfan...just taking a shot in the darkk..

funny story from the bar i was at. some floozy walked past our skins posse right in the final 3 minutes. she started looking at us and screaming "how about them cowboys biaches" over and over. we started screamin back etc...but she wasnt paying attention to where she was walking and in the middle of a "how bout..." she ran her face right into a jutted out wall. it was classic...

later the huge bar i was in with every fan came together to chant cowboys suck at her..

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

A cheese graphic provides validation and acceptance. It speeds the healing process.

Or so says my shrink, who regularly Telestrates my poor decision making skills.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

CL, was she hot, was she single, did you get her number?

Kidding, kidding. Sort of.

:-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

everyone should have then pissed on the girl cowboys fan after she knocked herslef out

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 9:20 PM | Report abuse

No idea where the conspiracy theory about St. Joe secretly wanting Brunell in there is coming from. Brunell is done. Kaput. His career is over. This is his last season. Everyone knows it. St. Joe knows it.

JC is the QB. He's The Man for quite some time, barring injury or poor performance. I thought I read or watched somewhere at some point today that JC admitted the first pick was his fault.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

No way does JC get benched. No way. Remember the 2 perfect bombs to ARE? Remember JC scrambling for a 10 yd gain and a first down?

Brunell couldn't make the plays ARE made. Remember, the 'Fins had a darn good defense last year. And benching JC in the first game is the same type of confidence-shaking shabingus that ruined Ramsey's career.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

yikes anon...

p diddy she was average at best and her team, actions and sleazy "gonna find a man at the sunday sports bar" outfit combined to make her a dog...

arent u suppossed to be staying away from these types?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

You know, I'm easy.

BBM interceptions also warm the cockles of my heart.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

cdubb - Didn't watch it mate, was on at 3am here, and not on tv. I've had the past week off work, and today is my first day back, so I needed my sleep. I've recorded Sportcentre this morning, so hopefully I'll see some highlights when I get home.

Posted by: kost52 | September 9, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

diddy, that's what good qb's/leaders do, accept blame even when it's not their fault.

looks like the gints are even more pathetic than we thought. and the girls are going to win this one. i'm out!

1-0 babeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

That's a good story.

I've actually got one too. Skins fans are very much in the minority where I go. Big time Jets territory.

The place attracts the local nerds like me who care enough about a team to need to get out and see them as often as possible when not on National TV.

There's this one guy, a nerd, but not like me. Big Eagles fan. He's been there before. Sits in the front row and gets there early so he can get the biggest TV not dedicated to the Jets to watch the Eagles. He usually brings his girlfriend and today he brought a big stuffed bear wearing a McNabb jersey and an Eagles hat. He even has a special mug that he drinks out of. If I didn't dislike Eagles fans so much I'd feel sorry for him.

Anyway, as we know, the Eagles lost at the last minute by a field goal to the lowly Packers. He had been screaming and yelling ans swearing all day and then when the Packers made the field goal everyone started cheering for the Packers really loud and yelling that the Eagles suck.

Not really much of a story, but it was pretty funny. I think the Jet's fans (another scary breed) were feeling down and looking to take it out on someone. This guys was perfect.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 9, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes, CL. Yes, I am :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

If ever there were two groups of people who deserve one another, it's Jets fans and Eagles fans.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

This game is beginning to suck. Someone better knock Romo's teeth out, or else there will be no redeeming quality to this.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

The stuffed bear thing is really sad/pathetic. No wonder his g/f left him.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

nyskins...good story...sports bars are weird, sosciology paper waiting to be written therre...who would bring a stuffede animal...he should have gotten his azz kicked on principal...

one thing i dont get is WHY if ur in the local market you would ever go?!?! I mean stay home, where the food/drinks are cheaper and u can watch in peace!!! if/when skins are on its my pad or a buddies...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you CL...the only times I go to a sports bar are when I don't care about any of the teams...

Otherwise, give me peace, quiet, and the ability to mute Dierdorf.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad I'm not the only one who CANNOT stand Dierdorf. I have hated him as an announcer for YEARS. He is never right and he's never in doubt that he is right.

And BTW, does anyone else think that CBS shows way too much in the way of close ups of players, coaches and fans between plays and not enough pertinent replays????

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 9, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

They probably did a bunch of focus groups over the summer and determined that an appropriate mix of game/replay/closeups/commercials was 10%/5%/25%/60%.

Everyone likes Peyton Manning commercials, right? Everyone!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

So how unusual was St. Joe's decision to kick a 40-yarder on 1st down in OT?

I gotta think that that was an outlier, that very few playcallers would have done it.

Isn't it better odds to keep punching it onwards, get 5 or 7 or more yards closer?

Hey, it worked, fine, and I'm a Joe G fan, not a hater. But it seemed a weird decision to me.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Wade Phillips' headset makes him look like he should be directing Imperial Cruisers to a landing on the Death Star.

Sorry about the nerd reference. Much apologies.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Here for 30 seconds. Great game, well done the Redskins.

Interesting to see the stats vs. what's going on on the field, you get a different perspective at the game.

Back in the morning (7am) to take my punishment!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 9, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

farstriker, he explained it in his post-game press conference. Something about losing a couple of games because of penalties, sacks, fumbles, etc. in that situation.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Peyton Manning in a thong

Closeup of Peyton Manning licking honey off a spoon

Peyton Manning in a remake of the Shining in a 60-second commercial, with no "Here's Peyton!" moment

========>

I say those would all be bad uses of Peyton Manning that few people would like.

Posted by: farstriker | September 9, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

We were screaming at gibbs...but it worked so whateves..

ah redcoat did you have "fun" at the loss?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat with a cowarldy "I'm here for 30 seconds". Take your beatdown now biatch!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Slightly dated, but USA Today came through on the Peyton list:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/2006-11-15-manning-products-sidebar_x.htm

Trawling on the Internets, I see that he has signed with Sony now as well. If he signs with Apple, I'll never be able to escape him.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Who gets your game ball in the Redskins' 16-13 win over Miami?


48.8%
Antwaan Randle El

25.5%
Shaun Suisham

17.6%
Clinton Portis

3.5%
Jason Campbell

3.2%
London Fletcer

1.4%
Other player

Total Votes: 4049

Posted by: redskins.com | September 9, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

So, did Pete Kendall play okay today?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this thread is crazy....

My only two comments on the game is that this looked like a pre-season game for BOTH teams.

#2, there were a lot of bad games this weekend. :P

I hope Jansen is well. Why did they play Heyer instead of Wade? Can anyone tell me that?

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | September 9, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

how long do we have to wait for a Jansen update???? is this a blog or what?? let's go, give us an update!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Ray - Wade was on IR today

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I'm guessing they want Springs healthy at the end of the year. With Smoot and Rogers in there you can spell him at times.

He's no sping chicken anymore.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | September 9, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

wow! i wonder what joseph white would've said had the skins lost this game! what a downer!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/09/AR2007090901163.html?nav%3Dhcmodule&sub=AR

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

kendell played great i thought...

ray, wade was inactive, maybe due to bum shoulder, so not an option

and how about rocky mac??? huge game...luv that dude

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

"Ray - Wade was on IR today"

Really? Wow.

Guess they start scanning the waiver wire then....

Thanks!

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | September 9, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Can you answer me this...

Why won't we blitz?

Why are the corners playing 15 yards off the WR on a 3rd and 5?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Wade was Inactive not IR.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

How you like that?

Posted by: SMACK | September 9, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

ray and anon..

wade NOT on ir...just inactive for this game...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

IR, inactive due to injury - same thing IMO.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

smack I hate it...how do you root for that tool..or any of these tools..gag me

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Wade was inactive; not the same as IR. From Jasno's entry:"OL - Todd Wade - has a bad shoudler so that might be part of it"...
Heyer seemed to do okay, but what part of the 700 pages did they have to cut out to help him?

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Just appeared that the game plan didn't involve blitzing today. It looked like they were focused on stopping the run (66 yards rushing allowed), and forcing Cameron's offense into having to throw. By and large, the defense did a phenomenal job. Not sure how you can argue with strategy given 13 points allowed.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Just back from Ireland and my most miserable Philadelphia International Airport experience yet. 2+ hours of chaos, disorganization, and ridiculous TSA hassles plus my luggage didn't make my return flight because a couple of idiots were too busy ripping both of its handles off instead of loading it onto my plane.

Karma demanded the bad calls and inept offensive play doom the Igges to a loss after the way I got jobbed at the airport.

F PHILLY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT!

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | September 9, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

anon now i know why you wont put your name on posts..

Inactive means your out FOR THAT GAME

IR means your out FOR THE YEAR...

got that bub?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

adam iggle:

sorry about ur travel woes..

not sorry about your iggle woes...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

bub?

lmgo!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

excuse me Arsehole. It's not like I work for the NFL or ESPN like you do. Or do you just have no job and that's how you have time to look all of this sh$% up and argue with people like me. Shouldn't you be getting ready for bed so you can wake up for school tomorrow?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I thought i remembered reading somewhere... maybe on this blog a while ago about how they were going to play smoot over springs in certain situations which it appeared they were doing...
however that strategy might need to be rethought after this game... no need to panic or say that double g has an agenda...

personally i thought carlos was having the worse game until fred dropped the interception.

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

F Chris Larry

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Anon is right about one thing...the concept of inactive is idiotic.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

First

Posted by: Am I really? | September 9, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

yo anon, first of all fool get a name, unnamed posts are for cowards. its not my fault you brag about your ignorance

"IR, inactive due to injury - same thing IMO."

your opinion was straight wrong, and u kept it up after you were corrected...

don't have to be at espn to know how the sport works..

F anon

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I love you P Diddy.

Posted by: Anita Cok | September 9, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I love this Merriman/Jackson commercial, but sure hope Nike has other ones with other guys.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

i am with u there piddy, why cant u suit em all up?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

don't have to be at espn to know how the sport works..

in fact, the one precludes the other...

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 10:28 PM | Report abuse

dante, i'm watching the postgame on comcast right now...there's deff. something going on with him and double G. they better straighten things out cuz those two corners...

ps...both of the skins guards came from the jets...

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

ummm...jason tuck just performed the worst sack dance....ever

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

"your opinion was straight wrong, and u kept it up after you were corrected..."

Isn't that how most of our politicians do it? Either he was on IR or he was inactive - he was out for the game. Is that really worth arguing over for anyone other than a 10 year old?

Posted by: coward per Chris Larry | September 9, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

dante, i'm watching the postgame on comcast right now...there's deff. something going on with him and double G. they better straighten things out cuz those two corners...

ps...both of the skins guards came from the jets...

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Did they just go to commercial with Def Leppard's "Animal"?

Wow. That effing rocks.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 9, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Alright, I love that Bud Light commercial.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

i hear ya dealer... what all was said on comcast?

Posted by: Dante | September 9, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Does Double G know how to function without a doghouse? Yeesh. No wonder they were about to mutiny against him in Buffalo.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

hey nice you got a name and i like it...whatever dude keep ur head up ur azz...

sure names/the rules/explanations don't matter...how post modern of you..

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Ah, there's the LBM we all know and love.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

My head's not up my azz but my tongue's up your mom's azz. My dingaling is gonna be next after several fingers.

Posted by: coward per Chris Larry | September 9, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

IR, inactive due to injury - same thing IMO.

Posted by: | September 9, 2007 10:12 PM

Not at all, my good anonymous man. Once you go on IR, you can't play again in the season. When you're inactive you can play again the next week. They'll be putting the drugs into Wade and he'll be dressed next Monday.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

"I bet there won't be a lot of people to run on that defense with Landry in the box," Cam Cameron said.

nice compliment to Landry and the Defense!

Posted by: Mike C | September 9, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

and modern is too argue over someone being out of a game because he is injured and on IR or inactive?

Posted by: coward per Chris Larry | September 9, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

your new name really sums it up...

classy come back, and u were just calling me a 10 year old?

Posted by: chris Larry | September 9, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

another joins in on the IR debate. Funny you circle jerks can't speak on anything related to sports until someone disputes you on an irrelevant subject.

Posted by: coward | September 9, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Isn't that how most of our politicians do it? Either he was on IR or he was inactive - he was out for the game. Is that really worth arguing over for anyone other than a 10 year old?

Posted by: coward per Chris Larry | September 9, 2007 10:30 PM

Well, duh. It isn't anything you can "argue" about. If you call a Dodge Charger a hippopotamus, there's no arguing about it. You're just wrong, dude.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Are Andy Reid's kids blogging while blotto on here or something?

Go to bed children, Daddy will come tuck you in soon. (lol...no he won't)

Posted by: Mike C | September 9, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

sorry thought you might know what post-modern meant my bad...take your tongue out of my moms bung hole and look it up...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know the name of the rap song they were playing pre-game at the stadium??...sounded like Chingy...and the lyrics had Superman in them I think...

Posted by: KJ | September 9, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey, "coward" [if that is your real name], "Ray" responded to the original comment by going out to scan the waiver wire... we're all just trying to save him the time.

that's RI -- we're so SJKing concerned for others that we have no time left for ourselves.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

coward,

There's no "debate" going on. We're trying to help you understand NFL football. A debate is like "who will make a good President?" People can have different opinions, and debate the topic. This is a factual question.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

What kind of ridiculous goal are you guys headed toward now where you have to make up these childish little arguements to stir up more posts. Good luck on your dorkimatem.

Posted by: coward | September 9, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

congrats on the win boys... can't wait to beat you in the superbowl and make danny foam at the mouth

Posted by: Norv Turner | September 9, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

take your tongue out of my moms bung hole and look it up...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:41 PM

Sorry it's too good. I'm sure you've tried it before.

Posted by: coward | September 9, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

What kind of ridiculous goal are you guys headed toward now?

Coward,

Our goal is to help you understand the difference between inactive and IR, but I'm thinking of giving up on that, myself. We could put up another 88,888 posts and you still wouldn't have a clue.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

dealer, I watched the postgame show right after the game and nothing in Shawn's interview indicated that there was trouble between him and Gregg Williams. Shawn did say he was just told today that he would be playing nickel but he laughed it off. Can you tell me how you can say it is clear something is wrong with the two of them because I did not pick that up from the segment.

Posted by: Lisa | September 9, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Norv Turner Jumble!

Norv Turner = Turnnoverr

Posted by: Mike C | September 9, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

can you imagine how hard it is to type with his tongue where he says it is?

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Redskins, tied for first in penalties (8). All in the second half, I believe. Something to work on in practice this week.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

We could put up another 88,888 posts and you still wouldn't have a clue.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 9, 2007 10:46 PM

I understand but was it really worth the belligerent comment that the arsehole Chris Larry put up to start this whole tirade? What an arsehole.

Posted by: coward | September 9, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

sorry I insulted your fragile feelings coward

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow, as much as I hate him, Romo is looking really good. He's making good decisions and being patient and slinging that ball well. I know the Giants are pretty bad, but it's still the NFL and Romo is looking good.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Could there be a decent reason behind Springs playing nickel?

Achilles a bit tender still? Something like that?

Posted by: kost52 | September 9, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Redskins, tied for first in penalties

All, surprisingly, right after somebody blogged:
haven't a lot of chatter but penalties, but it seems like this team is committing way fewer penalties (knock on wood)

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 9, 2007 01:30 PM

coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

the Giants defense looks horrendous...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Lisa is your fear of the Giants subsiding????

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

lisa, you're always preaching POSITIVITY up here. so i have a question...why do you feel the need to only comment when you're disagreeing with someone?

hopefully you'll make your presence more frequent not just when you're disagreeing with people up here. cuz we do miss you.

and to answer your question. don't you think it's weird that your BEST corner, possibly the BEST player on defense and the MVP of the defense is told ON THE DAY OF THE GAME that he won't be starting and he wasn't given a reason.

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

springs has a bad hemmie. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Nice pull, cload.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Who is this Ward guy? He has "'Skins Killer" written all over him.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

and i just heard chic hernandez make the same exact point about shawn springs.

lisa, did you miss that part?

and our strawberry shortcake didn't ask double G that question either...she's usually pretty tough...

Posted by: dealer | September 9, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Pretty lousy fantasy day... good thing the Redskins won... Mondays are so much better when they win!

Now I'm going to go draft this Ward kid on all my teams. How serious is Jacobs' injury?

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Christopher Lawrence... any reason the 'S' and 'L' are now capitalized?

way to make everyone all pissed off. Nice.

Can a coach go on IR?

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

And...there's the Romo we all know and love.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Defensive MVP in Game 1....

"Rocky McIntosh had 11 tackles, a sack and a forced fumble."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

the caps are all random...no rhyme or reason...why would it piss people off???

thanks for using my full name though...

Posted by: chrIr LaRry | September 9, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Great blitz pickup by Ward there. #22 is a total liability in pass protection. Who the heck is this Ward guy??? :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'm with you SC...Rocky or London were my MVPs. ARE would be my offensive MVP, but this was primarily a defensive game.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

seems to me I only pissed one dude off...unless I some how offended u dorf?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

OK. I'm caught up now. I was home alone this afternoon with the Skins, Sonny/Sam, and a napping 2.5 year old. She woke up around 3ish ... I missed what happened that caused St. Joe to get excited enough to whip off his head gear ... something about Yoder? What happened? [Did see the Sweez'um kick right after though -- that was nice.]

Every opinion has been thrown up today, but I have three original thoughts that no one has talked about:
1. The timing/chemistry btwn Santana/JC seemed off. Santana didn't seem like he could do anything good (or at least nothing we could expect from him). Sonny or Bram thought he might have a problem with his hand ... they were re-taping his hand and wrist on the sideline. Anybody hear that? Right around the time Sam said "its 90 degrees out there, why is he wearing gloves?"
2. Cooley seemed like he had nothing today. Where the Dolphins game planning to stop him, e.g., double coverage? The one catch he did have over the middle in that OT drive was the play of the game in my eyes though. That was the momentum changer that sparked the energy to keep the drive alone.
3. It was 90 degrees and the humidity was at flood stage. I think the mental errors by BOTH sides today, esp. in the second half, where b/c it was like July today (i.e., the time of year when residents leave and tourists arrive).

I'm off to bed again (5am little girl shift), but I'll check back (sorry). Its always great to win, but this one made me feel a little cheap.

p.s. I had always assume AMMTS and Art Monk to the HoF were the same guy. Great to hear from AMMTS, but even more psyched to see the reappearance of last season (regular season) regular Art Monk to the HoF. Welcome back.

Posted by: dcsween | September 9, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

What is Lorenzen's nickname? Totally forget...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Hefty Lefty

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Hardest hit of the day....

Ladell Betts lays the wood on....

Chris Samuels

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Not to knock the Cowboy and Giants Offensive performances, but both their Defenses look HORRIBLE!

Losing Terrence Newman is killing Cowboys D and NYG's D just seems bad top to bottom.

Posted by: Mike C | September 9, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Seems like every time I check in your somebody's internet enemy. So much hate in this world. Can't we all just get along? (I've made a personal rule for myself that if I ever let some loser on the internet hurt my feelings, I'd punch myself in the nugget pouch)

Kentucky big boy! Game over.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

that hit by betts on samuels was funny...

samuels did eat jayson taylor on CP TD...

i thought samuels played a very solid game

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

jeesh Dorf sorry to offend, i like scrappin i guess, dont think i get my feelings hurt...

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Alright, calling it an early night. Way to BYGO today. :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 9, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Cooley stuffed #99 on the CP TD (Cooley was in motion on the play...)

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

good night diddy

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

scrap on brother... if there's ever a blog war (something similar to the tv broadcasting street brawl from Anchorman) I want you throwing a trident into someone's chest for me. You and that Hog X fella from Virginia Beach who is like 400 pounds and bounces at a bar. Oh and jm220. P Diddy could be our Professor Xavier and use his intelligence to inflict pain on people.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Dorf I do like the sound of that!!!!

I am a nice guy though, really I am! Just like mixin it up. But now I want a trident...

Would it suprise you to learn I almost got in fight at the sports bar today? prolly not...but I am pretty harmless really...

Yo your in Hburg right...I luv me some Luigis...and back in the day used to cook at Simple Pleasures...does that joint still exist?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I think we covered this at some point last season. Luigis has a place downtown now that I love. I think Simple Pleasures moved down University Blvd a few blocks. You should come back for a JMU game this fall. We could get into a fight at Dave's Taverna. I'll supply the trident.

Posted by: Dorf | September 9, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Tiki...its not "we" and "us" anymore....

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

They moved...weird...so that means two Luigis...nice...I remember Dave's Taverna...I think although I was outta there by 1995...

I would love to roll down...but not sure if its in the cards timewise... I also would like to roll down for the Mac Rock music conference but NYC to Hburg is a hike..

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 9, 2007 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Dorf - LMGO @ "if I ever let some loser on the internet hurt my feelings, I'd punch myself in the nugget pouch)"

Hurt feelings not enough for ya!

Posted by: kost52 | September 9, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Looks like that Nike commercial was a curse for Steven Jackson...

18 for 58 (3.2) and 2 fumbles

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Alright gang...off to bed...good blogging...

good victory, good kick off...9 more to go and PO are ours!!!

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 9, 2007 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Shawne Merriman also had a pedestrian 3 tackles.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

I thought The cowboys defense was suppose to be good...I also think their offense is ok but not like it looked...The Gianst D is JUST THAT BAD> The middle was open ALL nite...I mean almost every pass was a little dink across the middle to TE and WRS...I don't buy it and I can't wait till we play both teams.

HAIL

Posted by: Leevi | September 9, 2007 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know the name of the rap song they were playing pre-game at the stadium??...sounded like Chingy...and the lyrics had Superman in them I think...

Posted by: KJ | September 9, 2007 10:42 PM


Crank it Soulja Boy by Soulja Boy

You can't crank it without knowing the dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pGJCkCDK5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLGLum5SyKQ

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan - Quiet days from all the 'Big 3' RB's (LT, LJ, SJ).

Posted by: kost52 | September 10, 2007 12:21 AM | Report abuse

What a relief.

Our months and months of jibba jabba and hand-wringing up here, through the playoffs and free agent period and the draft, OTAs and training camp, preseason... we've come a long way.

1-0. We're 1-0.

We go see the Eagles, who looked blah in GB, next Monday. We have a chance. Then we get the Jints at our place. An even better chance in that one.

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:26 AM | Report abuse

I just read that Randall Godfrey was the only suited up Skin to not see any time. Does that mean Marcus played the full game, or did he split time with someone?

Posted by: kost52 | September 10, 2007 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Funny, periculum said Godfrey would be the MVP of our season. Or was it Priest Holmes.

The Giants and Cowboys both have some sh#tty D's. If our O can get better as the year goes on, we'll be ok.

Posted by: cdubb | September 10, 2007 12:40 AM | Report abuse

cdubb - I also remember him saying that CP would be rusty and fumble in Week 1 because he missed the pre-season.

Posted by: kost52 | September 10, 2007 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Leevi
& the rest of you KOOLAIDE drinking MORONS, the skins could only put up 16 pts and gave up 13 to a sorry miami team that is in its first yr of total change! A division rivalry which everyone who doesnt drink KOOLAIDE knows is a battle and fight, between gmen and boys who combined for 80pts says your SORRY asses will be in LAST PLACE AGAIN !!!!!!!

Posted by: LAST PLACE AGAIN FOR SKINS!!!! | September 10, 2007 12:50 AM | Report abuse

We should take all his predictions and go to vegas to bet the house on the opposite. Then any of us could buy our fave team from napolean danny.

Posted by: cdubb | September 10, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

It was pointed out earlier that there was a play in which Ladell waved CP off. This from Clinton-

"I came in at halftime and talked with Ladell and he just told me to calm down, and I calmed down in the second-half and everything turned out alright."

Sounds like they get on well enough to speak to each other freely, so I wouldn't take too much out of him being waved off.

Posted by: kost52 | September 10, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Leevi
& the rest of you KOOLAIDE drinking MORONS, the skins could only put up 16 pts and gave up 13 to a sorry miami team that is in its first yr of total change! A division rivalry which everyone who doesnt drink KOOLAIDE knows is a battle and fight, between gmen and boys who combined for 80pts says your SORRY asses will be in LAST PLACE AGAIN !!!!!!!

Posted by: LAST PLACE AGAIN FOR SKINS!!!! | September 10, 2007 12:50 AM


BOOFER is giving Romo his after game bj. to be continued......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2007 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Noodle Soups #s without Hail Mary 140yds 2ints 0TDs!Ryan Leaf was better! HAHAHAHAHAahhhahaahhahhahhhahahahahah

Posted by: Pro Bowl here i come? | September 10, 2007 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Jm220
is giving boofer a bj right now! to be continued.......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2007 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Sween - I had the same thought about Moss' hand during the game. It seemed like he just couldn't hang on and the only thing I could think was it was hurting.

My impression of Cooley was he was in there helping blocking but this is where I will defer to peeps who have better eyes for this type of thing.

Can we get a BLAW that when we win we give it at least till Monday to pick it all apart in terms of criticism. I'm not opposed to criticism and gawd knows this team deserves it but for us Kool Aid drinkin' fans a few hours of pure joy would be nice.

Posted by: sfskin | September 10, 2007 1:05 AM | Report abuse

My favorite (favourite) quote.

"I bet there won't be a lot of people to run on that defense with Landry in the box," Cameron said.

Posted by: Stumped | September 10, 2007 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Alrighty off to bedybye. We're 1-0 and you know what it was sloppy but SJK every team that is now 0-1 would love to trade our sloppy win for their loss.

Just remember last year when we started 0-1 in that craptastic loss to Minny? Well I for one am glad not to be there again.

HAIL!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 10, 2007 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Hardest hit of the day....

Ladell Betts lays the wood on....

Chris Samuels

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 9, 2007 11:27 PM

Yeah! It looked great on instant replay.

Posted by: Stumped | September 10, 2007 1:12 AM | Report abuse

And so begins a new season.

No one knows who is really good, bad or worse.

Posted by: Stumped | September 10, 2007 1:21 AM | Report abuse

So, taking the level of opposition into account, what grade are we giving our boys out of 10?

6?

Posted by: kost52 | September 10, 2007 1:21 AM | Report abuse

kost, I like to think I'm not really a rah-rah, lacking-all-rationality-and-objectivity type of fan, but I'd have to go a little higher: 7 . . . 7.5 maybe

And that's taking into account the level of competition in this respect: the only thing the Fins have going for them is a super-conscientious, super-solid veteran D, and the Skins hung 4 bills on 'em. That ain't bad news.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 10, 2007 1:52 AM | Report abuse

and since I appear to have the blog to myself (sleep the sleep of the undefeated, my pretties) . . . I'm on the soapbox:

take a look at photo #3 of the Post's photo gallery from yesterday's game. John Jansen in physical pain most of us -- not named Dorf -- cannot contemplate; Jason Campbell, your Washington Redskin quarterback of the now and future and the de facto leader, TAKING A KNEE AND PLACING A HAND TO COMFORT HIM.

I noticed on tv that Jason stayed at his side, praying while the trainers went about their gruesome duty. Now, I'm not a praying man, but I've been lucky enough both to see real leaders and to be a bit of a leader in stressful times -- that's good stuff, folks. As Coach Gibbs has said, character does matter, and I thank the Coach for seeing the character in that guy.

it's a positive soapbox, sfskin -- here you go, you got it back

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 10, 2007 3:18 AM | Report abuse

kost,
The Dolphin Defense was ranked number 6 last year (maybe higher against the run).

The OL did far better than I possibly would have imagined. There were two sacks, but JC had time to throw. The Dolphin secondary, which Redcoat said was suspect, seemed to do a pretty good job of covering Moss and Cooley (when he wasn't blocking). It was nice to see ARE have a good day.

JC performed reasonably well too. He made a few mistakes, but we should expect them at this stage in his career. I like his arm. He's a quick study and we'll see progress from week to week.

Our defense obviously did well against the run, but it appears they were playing a very conservative game and allowing the short to medium passes(Smoot). I more aggressive pass rush would go along way. I hope that Williams will get a little more aggressive with blitzing next week.

The Eagles got beat by Green Bay...from the pieces I saw of that it was ugly too.

Take the Win and start figuring out how beat Philly.

Posted by: Stumped | September 10, 2007 3:29 AM | Report abuse

Bob Costas is a good journalist, but only when he is covering baseball.

Posted by: O-O | September 10, 2007 4:12 AM | Report abuse

Back from an extended vacation (without wifi) and just happy to check out the last 20 messages and realize nothing has changed.

Except the Redskins being undefeated.

The game was crazy in SF. Apparently the Cowboys fan behind the bar at Bayside sports bar decided to have a little fun, and of the 65 televisons in the joint, put the Redskins on only 2 nine-inch screens. Really.

So the Redskins fans decamped to a new spot called Jones on Lombard, ended up with around 14 fans taking over a corner of the bar. Lots of non-sipping beer all around.

All the highs and lows everyone else experienced, maybe with the addition of one a-hole who was cursing Joe Gibbs for calling a field goal on first down at the end. He's no longer welcome, unless he's buying.

But a party, overall - including HTTR with the OT victory. We now own that place. sfskin and others here, we'll be back at Jones, with sound, for week 3, 1:15pm. Join us.

Posted by: mugamack | September 10, 2007 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Defense is solid and the kicking games looks good.

We lost year's opening game by 3 points, this year we win by 3. We'll have a reverse year - 11-5 baby!

Posted by: charlie | September 10, 2007 5:24 AM | Report abuse

I hope that Smoot isn't catching a case of Rogeritis. (And dropping it, of course - I think?)

Posted by: charlie | September 10, 2007 5:28 AM | Report abuse

Redskins are undefeated!

Posted by: Dorf | September 10, 2007 6:05 AM | Report abuse

although... I could really go for a Jansen update right about now.

and a fruit smoothie.

Posted by: Dorf | September 10, 2007 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Well, I'm here. Bring it on!!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Hey Dorf, are you actually out in Harrisonburg?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:02 AM | Report abuse

As I know you guys are late risers - especially after a win I suppose, I'll post some impressions of the game up her ein a minute. Ijust have to find a link for something on the Internets first.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Just been reading through the comments on this blog from during the game. What was with all the negativity at half-time????? Down 7-3 just 30 minutes into the season and people are slating the team. Call yourself fans??? It was clear that defense had throttled the Dolphins for the whole first half except for that last drive. As expected, that drive was the exception rather the rule as our defense continued to bend but not break in the second half. All you needed was a little faith that the running game, which always serves us well, would come through in the second half - and it did. Shame on you all you doom and gloomers.

I gotta say that I'm loving the two-pronged rushing attack. It must be terrifying for defences facing up to two quality running backs still fresh in the 4th quarter. CP will still be the man this year and will be ably assisted by Betts.

Posted by: gordi | September 10, 2007 7:03 AM | Report abuse

MIAMI was 6-10 last yr & are in new systems because of coaching change,Skins were favored because they should have won with everyone playing in same system for 2yrs on offense & 4yrs on defense!IT was also a HOME GAME,JC looked terrible and STOUT D had LEAKS that a really good OFFENSE will EXPLOIT!! KOOLAIDE will run out next week in PHILLY!

Posted by: TOOK SKINYS OT TO BEAT A SUCKY TEAM!!! | September 10, 2007 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Okay, several posts to go while I wait for the day shift...

Pre-game: We were in the tailgate club when the players that didn't come on the coach arrived.

Smmot is a major playa. He has a HUGE diamond stud in his ear, and when he was crossing the road to come in the players' entrance, he dropped a big bundle of cash and then waited while one of the security guys went back and picked it up for him.

He's driving a slightly tricked-up one of these, in white:

http://www.ichauffeur.co.uk/a/i/rolls-royce-phantom.jpg

And he can't park it for shti! He was across two spaces in the end. :-)

Portis and Moss came in together as well. It surprised me that they arrived so late = close to if not just after 11am - but I suppose these guys get cut some slack. CP and SM acknowledged fans shouting down to the,m, Smoot didn't seem to, but maybe I missed that.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Impressions of the game: Miami

3. First 3 possessions Trent Green looked 'done', it did get better after that though.
%. Miami still don't have a running back, or more importantly, any sort of blocking that opens holes for one.
c. The Miami defense is still pretty solid, but Zach Thomas misread some plays really badly. He actually got himself on completely the wrong side of the scrimmage a couple of times on run plays and we got gashed both times for big yards.
*. Chris Chambers may have borrowed Todd Pinkston's 'alligator arms' a couple of times.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Just glad you showed your face, bro.....

Trent Green is what Mark Brunell was 2 years ago...

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 10, 2007 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat
Smoot made SEVERAL mistakes that a GOOD OFFENSE will throw all over him!

Posted by: Smoot Suks you IDIOT! | September 10, 2007 7:22 AM | Report abuse

SMOOT is a MAJOR PLAYA?????

Posted by: What game were you watching? | September 10, 2007 7:24 AM | Report abuse

What game were you watching????
is agreeing that SMOOT SUCKS!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2007 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Impressions of the game: Washington

(. The run D looked pretty solid, but it was only Ronnie Brown and Jesse Chatman.
4. I think you have a problem in your corners. Smoot was way off his guy a lot of the time and Green didn't see it as many times as he should have. And his dropped INT was awful. I thought Rogers had an okay game, his tackle at the 1yd line on Booker in the 3rd quarter stopped a drive that we should have converted to a TD - IF we'd had a running back.
&. What's with Springs, why he no play? The only time I noticed him was when he recovered Chatman's fumble and that was because Mauia's momentum took him past the ball once he had it.
#. JC looked like the rookie he is at times. Some good, okay, and flat-out bad throws in there, but boy that kid can run.
:. What's with Santana Moss - he almost looked like he 'heard feet' on those drops, they were bad.
3. If Portis didn't play, you didn't win yesterday. If Portis makes first contact with a defender at 2yds he still makes 5 or 6yds. Betts only makes 2 or 3 in the same circumstances. Betts is Ronnie Brown with slightly better wheels.
[. Jansens's fracture/dislocation was BAD. A guy in front of me had binoculars and he said right away 'they need to get the wagon on, he's screaming down there'.
7. Suisham's the real deal.
;. Randle El was NOT a good returner yesterday, his first move was always to crab across the field.
!. Where is your pass rush? I thought Green was supposed to be pummeled yesterday? The Carter sack was legit, but the Rocky Mac sack was more like Green trying to run and Rocky stopping him.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:27 AM | Report abuse

What game were you watching????
is agreeing that SMOOT SUCKS!

Posted by: | September 10, 2007 07:26 AM

Read what I wrote moron. That post had NOTHING to do with the game, rather like you.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:29 AM | Report abuse

I think Green's in a little better shape than that 4th, but he has very little talent around him. We're going to have to pick up a real running back and a lead receiver.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Final comment on the Skins: Brandon Lloyd is DONE. Randle El is your second receiver, Lloyd barely phoned it in yesterday.

At the game (from the other end of the field) it looked like JC underthrew Lloyd for that INT in the end zone, but when I saw it on TV last night Lloyd just didn't make a play for it.

When someone gives up on a play that badly you ought to sit/cut him.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, agree on Lloyd. If the play wasn't for him he barely ran his pattern.


4th, did you get the e-mail I sent you?

Posted by: LH | September 10, 2007 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, FINAL final comment. Carpenter's column is wrong (IMHO). The key play in OT was the completion to Cooley for 7. If that doesn't happen the drive dies. I saw the Miami defense shoulders drop AFTER that catch, but just before that they had stuffed the two previous plays, so I don't know where the 'we ran all over them' crap comes from.

I geneuinely think if we won the toss for O/T we would have won, but that wouldn't have meant we played better, we didn't. It just looked like neither defense could stop the other offense from scoring something at that point.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Chris Cooley on DC 101... i will transcribe shortly.

Sorry Redcoat, Hail To the Redskins... both Defenses were really tired.

I have not read any comments yet, just the last by redcoat... so that was probably already said.

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't feel good to get up on a Monday morning with a win?

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 7:41 AM | Report abuse

I have no idea JM. Does it?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 7:44 AM | Report abuse

It's funny, I've been over at a Fins forum this morning and it's a mix of "glass is half-full, not great but not bad either" and "the sky is falling" posts.

There's a LOT of hate for Cameron on those boards too. I don't get it.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:01 AM | Report abuse

morning peoples, we don't get skins games up here in syracuse. how did the kids landry and mcintosh do yesterday?

Posted by: big pisano | September 10, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Q:Happy with yesterday? Anytime we win... you can look past any bad play

Q: You tookj out JTaylor on CP td? Thats my job! He is huge.

Q: You exhautsed after taking on JT and Joey Porter? ABS! Hot out there

Q: Both players just animals or is there a diff? JT is 50lbs heavier... you gotta get your weight into him... porter you can use your hands.... I admit i had one bad block on Porter... great with hands.

Q: Does Porter talk trash? To Jansen, calling him snitch of the league... calling Sellers a wuss...

Q: Jansen done? Rumor... 3 to 4 month recovery... surgery soon. Bummer since he works his butt off. Probably IR

Q: Could you hear him yell? Couldnt tell, was downfield. his foot was a disaster... foot one way, leg another.

Q:Is he done carrer? No, ankle can come back. They wont let him retire... just signed an extension.

Q: Your extension? Rumor that i wanted to hold out, BS. Snyder is awesome... said he wanted him here, your not going anywhere. Snyder PAYS his guys.

Q: First check? Yep. Million Dollars to taxes... went to drive thru at Bank Of Amnerica
CC- Next check will be 5.5 mil

Q: Buy yourself anything? 68 Camaro! In St Louis... on EBAY he hopes its good

Q: First play, JC throwing to you and the ball picked. Announcer said Campbell thought you would cut. JC's fault.?

No Fault. They played cover two... safety on top of me... read on me or santana, where safety takes one, QB throws to the other. All week safety never covers me... And I couldnt feel the safety behind me. We moved on, no worries


Sorry, missed the rest. eitmonline.com will have it in their audio section tommorrow if you want to hear the whole thing.

My transcriving skills are slack. I need the home stenographer

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I forgot to add, Sellers is a monster. Every time he got tackled it took 3 guys to bring him down. You need to lock that guy up for a long time.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:06 AM | Report abuse

cooley's the man.

Posted by: big pisano | September 10, 2007 8:06 AM | Report abuse

RC, not trying to pile on here, but Traylor was pretty much a non-factor all game long, as was Roth. I knew we'd be able to run, with this line, we should be able to run on anyone.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 10, 2007 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Greg. Although I will say you ran as far as you did because of Portis. If he'd been on Miami's side, we'd have won.

Cooley made a couple of really good plays, but Portis made all the difference to me. It's a lot easier to run on people when you have an elite running back.

Oh, and welcome back the Joe Gibb's halftime adjustment! 41 yds rushing first half remember.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Our Run game was great. I still cant believe we didnt pound it down to score in the OT... the score would have been 20-13... which i said it would be.

I am sure it has been discussed ad nasuem, but why did we kick it there? Afraid of a fumble... that much confidence in our kicker?

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 8:20 AM | Report abuse

It's funny Z, there were lots of "this is BS" shouts going on up in the stands, which of course all changed to "I knew it's" when the kick went over.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Suisham so far has been sure thing. Why risk a fumble or penalty that pushes them out of FG position when you can win the game right there!

Posted by: monkalicious | September 10, 2007 8:22 AM | Report abuse

There's lots of flaming going on in Miami forums about the fact that Porter sat through every play in O/T.

He was asked why and basically said "I have no idea, I was ready to go out there". Really weird, he wasn't having a massive game, but I don't know why Mr $20m wasn't on the field with the game on the line.

We out-thought ourselves a few times yesterday.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Yes Redcoat it does. Maybe not for the losing team. lol

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

I will say that was the most bizzare game in a long while. RC, what were peeps saying on the hail mary?

I think that game was the game about which coaches tried to outthink themselves the best.

We miss that kick, were are screwed. You all miss the 4th and goal in first half, we win before OT.

Why was Springs truely the nickle back? Smoot was getting burned

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 8:33 AM | Report abuse

"Although I will say you ran as far as you did because of Portis. If he'd been on Miami's side, we'd have won"

Dude, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

You lost, stop the spin.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 10, 2007 8:34 AM | Report abuse

from ESPN

LANDOVER, Md. (AP) -- OK, so maybe Clinton Portis still is a No. 1 back, despite the knee injury that cost him all of preseason.

And Antwaan Randle El? Yes, his career-high 162 yards receiving more than makes his case as a No. 2 receiver.

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Redskins fans and BBama (The extra B is for British)

Skins win, skins win. That is all for now, busy day. Hopefully we get our TCCL post as I have plenty for that.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

And to make things worse for you Redcoat, I'm going to beat you in Fantasy Football this week!

Posted by: kost52 | September 10, 2007 8:47 AM | Report abuse

http://www.miamiherald.com/616/story/231768.html

JM, 54 of Randle El's yards were that joke play at the end where Taylor (for God knows what reason) bats the ball into his hands from the end zone.

Not spin Greg, we lost, but we lost because you had an elite running back and we didn't, that's all. Betts would NOT have got it done, do you'd better keep Portis wrapped up in cotton wool for when you need him because your season is over without him. JC is way to green to win you many games yet, take away the 54 yards to Randle El on that crazy play and he has a 168 yard 2 (could have been 3) INT game with 0 TDs.

You guys won fair and square, but no-one got beat up out there, it wasn't that good a game for either team, Portis, Heyer and Sellers excluded on your side.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:49 AM | Report abuse

ROMO #3 128.5 QB rating 4tds 1 int
MANNING #8 113.1 QB rating 3tds 2 int
MCNABB #21 60.7 QB rating 1td 1int
CAMPBELL #25 54.2 QB rating 0tds 2int
3 of these QBs 1ST rd picks?
1 undrafted FA?

Posted by: NFC EAST QB stats in NFL | September 10, 2007 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Oh, one more thing. Jansen hopes to not be put on IR but said he's still in a lot of pain this morning and heading down to Charlotte for surgery.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Skin-1-0
Girls 1-0
Gmen 0-1
Uggles 0-1


Suck it Trebeck.

Posted by: NFC EAST ONLY STAT THAT MATTERS BOZO BOYZ FAN | September 10, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

You got me there Kost, I couldn't get over Drew Brees coming up with ONE point in the Clots game. Ugh, what a great week.

And we have the Cowpokes next Sunday, it just gets better and better....

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat I agree that JC is way to green right now to win without a CP. But you got to like what you saw out of the kid. The Girls and G Men D looked really bad last night.

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Week 1 son, week 1. Good Job on the no defense game. Lets just compare QB ratings when our teams face each other.

Apparently there is no Defense in D or NY... Roy Williams is the MOST overrated player in the NFL. He can blitz, but he cant cover... Ed Reed, arguable the best safety in the league can do both... thus to call Roy Williams one of the best, you have to say he is close to as good as Ed Reed, which he is not.

And you know who looks like he could be the next Ed Reed? L2~!

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Sucks to critique the team, but not so bad after a W:

1. The corners still give too much cushion and can't catch. If Smoot handles that "gimme" pick the game is over.

2. Springs needs to start. He is by far our best corner.

3. Santana had a rare off day with drops, etc. He needs to step it up.

4. Pass rush still not there.

5. Didn't see much blitzing at all and Sean Taylor was quiet.

Posted by: Hershey Skins | September 10, 2007 8:57 AM | Report abuse

He's got a great set of wheels JM and made some really good running plays to keep drives alive, and he made some good throws, but he didn't look good most of the time yesterday.

I also noticed him kneeling next to Jansen and thought that was a great thing for the kid to do. He looks like he doesn't get phased by much and he's an obvious leader, BUT ... if he keeps throwing like yesterday, will Gibbs get twitchy?

The way Green managed the game end of first/much of second half, I could see why Gibbs like the 'older' QB so much. I have to say Green in your offense yesterday probably picks Miami apart - he nearly did it to you guys without any running game, and with receivers making FIVE drops, most of which stalled drives.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 8:57 AM | Report abuse

1001st!

Posted by: skinfanman | September 10, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

with receivers making FIVE drops,

Redcoat Area 51 have that type of effect on receivers. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Celebrate!

"3-2-1 No Contact" and "Stick to Coaching" were dropped from the Redskins page.

Serve us up a new column, Wilbon.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Dropped pass', hail mary's, etc. is part of a game called football. Enough already.

Did the skins dominate? heck no but had that game gone on any longer it would have gotten worse not better for Miami. Your team was worn down on D. They played admirably and had plenty of chances to win....alas they didn't.

NFC East football to the tee.....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

OK,OK

Good Morning my lovelies. What a joy to wake up today knowing the beloved Redskins won yesterday. A rough one, but good one to get things started. Now on to the NFC east opposition.

Jansen - *hugs* - I'm sorry baby.

*hugs* to all my blogger lovelies.

JLaC - you are doing on ecxellent job. Thank you for starting this up last year and keeping it going.

Posted by: SallieMae | September 10, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

BOYS #1 Div win trumps everything!
REDSKINETTES #2 AFC win Trumps nothing!
GMEN #3
EAGLES #4

Posted by: Sorry DUMB SH** drink more KOOLAIDE | September 10, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Zebra
Taylor & Landry made 0 big plays against a SUCKY 1st yr MIAMI offense!
REMEMBER that was the EXCUSES with skins offense with new offense last yr!JCs 1st yr or have you and everyone conviently forgotten?

Posted by: EXCUSE CAPITAL | September 10, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

My thoughts on our offense

I love JC's arm. I think his first interception to cooley shows his youth and inexperience... but we all know that he is a quick learner/ hard studier and I don't get the impression he is one to repeat mistakes.

If that had been Santana moss that second interception would have been a touchdown. I don't think I have ever seen a receiver not even try to get to a ball like that. Granted JC probably should have thrown the ball a yard shorter and to the inside but I think that interception is on BL.

I think we are back to the Redskins offense of the Gibbs of old. It was run run run... pass deep. How many dink and dump passes did you see other than a couple 7-10 yarders for a 1st down on 3rd down and one screen to Moss. Not only that when we did throw JC had plenty of time more often than not.

We converted 50% of our third downs. That is huge.

I hope Gibbs can get BL straightened out... maybe he's just not used to a QB with an arm but after him seeing ARE do so well I hope he steps it up for the skins sake.

Were there even any throws to the Rb's? I don't recall any and it just shows how well our run run run use the run to throw deep to the wr's strategy was working.

Portis is obviously the better back and it showed but keeping him fresh for the 4q by limiting his carries to 19-20 a game is only going to help us as the season progresses. Portis will be healthier and fresher come week 14 and playoffs and should extend his years of playing for us which is important.

Posted by: Dante | September 10, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Dropped pass', hail mary's, etc. is part of a game called football. Enough already.

Did the skins dominate? heck no but had that game gone on any longer it would have gotten worse not better for Miami. Your team was worn down on D. They played admirably and had plenty of chances to win....alas they didn't.

NFC East football to the tee.....

Posted by: | September 10, 2007 09:08 AM

Did you even WATCH the game? The longer any game goes on the worse for any defense. Miami didn't play admirably, they were rusty and disconnected with a few real boneheaded mistakes, but the Skins couldn't put them away and LOST the time of possession (and possibly yards gained) if you take off OT and the 'Hail Mary' that Taylor should just let hit the deck because there was no receiver within 5 yards.

Miami has pretty-much everything to work on this week. The Redskins need to work on everything except Portis/Sellers, Suisham, and the O-line and safeties.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

jm220 hit the nail on the head with two hammers: feels damned good to wake up this morning 1-0.

We have plenty of things to work on this week, and our O line depth is already being tested, but by golly we got that W!

Redcoat, you are the best, dude. Our designated bash-ee for the entire offseason, you repped your Fins in our building (and thank goodness didn't get harassed or beaten up, unless you haven't mentioned it), and now you've come right back up here to take your lumps and provide some solid game analysis. Good stuff.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Nate, still trying to call 'em as I see 'em (bias excepted).

Atmosphere at the game was great. The stadium got really loud for the D on early plays and then again at the end of Q4 when we drove to kick the last field goal.

I got some shti laid on me for being there but it was all good-natured and things never got ugly/nasty.

There were a LOT of Miami fans there and I would say the stadium was not more than 90% full unless for some reason people watch the game from 'out back' instead of in their seats. The club level looked pretty full but uppoer had plenty of empty seats.

Surprising/sad for game 1 of a new season.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Undrafted PROBOWL QB ROMO-MANIA is everywhere!
1st rd pick former probowl QB MCNABB is washed up!
1st rd pick no PRO BOWLS QB Manning is looking Better!
1st rd & 2 nd rd picks NO & NEVER any PROBOWLs QB CAMPBELL BUST BUST BUST BUST BUST BUST BUST BUST! ahhaahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahaaahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhhhahahahahahahahaheheheheehehehhahaahahahahahaahhahahaahrhehehehhahahahahahahehehhhheeheheheheheheehehehehehhe

Posted by: Dont hate APPRECIATE! | September 10, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

The club level probably looked full because of our man Club 320 and his very big brother.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Did you see any rankings in my post? Quit hitting on your sister and get some reading comprehension.

Posted by: SORRY DUMBSH** GIRLS FAN..LEARN TO READ INBRED TEXAN | September 10, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

SallieMae in the house! Fantastic!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and what's with the Dallas fans at the game yesterday? I saw a couple there, one with a TO shirt on!

That's just plain weird.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Looking ahead to next week, Lito Sheppard has a tweaked knee, at least. That bodes well for ARE and Moss.

You have to read other papers' columnists to see how lucky we are to have Jasno and Wilbon. This guy not only rips the head coach in week one, he uses an anagram (minus a letter or two) to do it:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070910_Rich_Hofmann___Reid_deserves_the_blame__not_punt_returners.html

It is not a coincidence that "no harm" is contained within the name "Reno Mahe."

Posted by: mugamack | September 10, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Lito Sheppard might be out next Monday. This is huge news but don't rejoice, it's bad karma.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3011850

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

What is it with opening games? Most of the games yesterday were marked with intermittently sloppy play and low scoring.

Just happy to see our O play better as the game went on, especially sticking with the running game! and continuing to take shots downfield, though I was surprised to see our D get a little worse (bending more, but still not breaking) as the game went on.

I'm afraid we've given the Iggles a lot to look at -- McNabb will enjoy pitching his little dinks and dunks just as much as Trent Green did (especially picking on Smooty). A good, steady, experienced QB could do a lot inside that cushion. Especially if his WRs are interested in catching the football, which some of the Fins weren't so keen on.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat Area 51 have that type of effect on receivers. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 09:05 AM

That's what puzzled me about it JM, most of those drops were on open guys with safeties nowhere (relatively) in sight. They were just plain bad drops. Chambers made amends for his one but Martin's were terrible.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Depends if it's 2006 early-season McNabb or yesterday's 15/33 McNabb Nate - a big difference between the two!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

RC, just seems like bitter spin to me now.

We woulnd't have won without Portis, Betts isn't that good, stadium wasn't full, safeties were out of position, we couldn't put you away, etc. etc.....

We.

Won.

Everything else you're spinning is just fluff....

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 10, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Very interested to hear from Grilliams this week, if possible:

* is Springs being held back (playing #3 behind Rogers and Smoot) to prevent chance of injury?

* whither R-God?

* only one blitz in this game... how to get any pressure with front four alone? NO pocket collapse in this game, no consistent pressure, very few pass play disruptions from the line...

I'm sure there's other stuff, but even though I had my doubts I certainly think the D did a better-than-expected job against a fairly-well-quarterbacked team...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

You had Redskinettes over boys check your own post DUMB SHI*!!

Posted by: U cant read or write Like ( DEXTER MANLY) | September 10, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, nice, objective read on the game. That was how I read it (last night, 11:21) too, esp., on Cooley having the play of the game ... which was for 10 yards, not 7.

sfskin, I wasn't critiquing, just going over the game film to observe some things that peeps had not yet noticed. Next time, I'll save those for Monday morning (or next week, Tuesday morning). NOT! wink wink.

I don't know if anyone actually kept up with the reading on this >1K thread, but there was ANOTHER invasion of ES negativers yesterday, esp. Jasno haters. chRIs Larry was fairly lovey dovey till the first Jasno negativity started, then some anon someone pimped his anger trying to pick a fight. During game day, its esp important to keep the shields up and ITA.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Come on, Greg, I think Redcoat isn't being unreasonable. It's a game of degrees, and if there was any doubt about the razor-thin margin between winning and losing, this game should have put it to rest. The game came down to the overtime coin flip and the almost unbelievable decision to make a FG attempt on first down...

Anyway, it was a pitched battle, with a LOT to discuss, and I'm interested to hear what everyone thinks. We've got a lot to work on, a lot to worry about, in the "long week" before Monday's game.

Whateves, as cL sez. So happy with a WIN.

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

"What is it with opening games? Most of the games yesterday were marked with intermittently sloppy play and low scoring. ..."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 09:39 AM

Cap'n Obvious, this was a rhetorical question, right? Aside from his inane "Week One isn't important," periculum did find an acorn in that yesterday's games might as well have been preseason Week 5.

Blitzes are for when everyone is ready to blitz. The D is still working on fundamentals. Anybody want to give a round of applause for the Skins' D holding the Phins to 66 yards rushing? Two sacks (i.e., 200% better than ALL last season)? Blitzing is defensive gadgetry and should only be used in graduate level Ds.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I don't know Nate, when he starts coming up with, "if we had Portis, and you didn't" its just bitter spin on a loss. We could play the "if we had this" game all day....bottom line, we won...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 10, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Okay Greg you win. Redskins won.

You just keep deluding yourself that a W against a dodgy Miami team is the first of an unbeaten season culminating in a 77-0 Super Bowl triumph over the Clots with BBM going 1/55 for -12 yards.

The stadium not being full isn't an excuse for anything, it's an observation I made because I was surprised that people wouldn't be 'hanging from the rafters' to get a view of game 1, that's all.

The safeties weren't in wrong positions, they just didn't happen to (mostly) be where the Miami receivers were when they dropped the ball. It's your corners who weren't where they should have been that left them open in the first place.

And the observation on Betts is just an observation, nothing more. I've suggested that with JC where he is in his development, without Portis you have another 5-11 season because Betts isn;t enough on his own. With him, you have a chance for a winning season, but let's see how you do when you play a better team than Miami - and there are quite a few I'm sad to say.

But as I'm just 'spinning' I'll go ahead and 'crown' you.

"After their wholesale dismantling of the vaunted Miami defense and total annihilation of Miami's much-feared multiple-threat offense, Washington Redskins are now installed as strong favourites for the NFC berth in Super Bowl XLII".

There, you're crowned. Happy now?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Nate, are far as "game of degrees," you totally got that one right. Yesterday was miserably hot, like 90 degrees, but unlike the desert southwest, it was a "wet hot". http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ffc/html/studies/ta_htindx.PDF

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I think that the game can best be described as pretty even.

Both teams dropped pass' and made stupid mistakes. Both teams made some plays.

I agree with the assertion that, in the end, the skins running game basically beat the 'fins front 7 into submission.

Chambers whooped up on our CB's though and you are absolutely right about T. Green RC. He looked good yesterday.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

OK,OK

Hi Nate in the PDX *hugs* how are you sweeite?

Are we gonna do the TCCL Tom Cruise Couch Leap awards this year too?

2 TCCL for Cammbell soup. Showing lots of promise but also showing his youth.

2 TCCL for Carlos Rogers. Did he make any plays yesterday?

4 TCCL for Portis/Betts running game. Attaboys!

5 TCCL for Heyer - nuff said.

5 TCCL for Gibbs going for the field goal in OT versus running. I could *feel* a turnover if we kept going.

*hugs* to all my blogger lovelies and peeps.

Posted by: SallieMae | September 10, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

The lack of blitzing (which most teams do in preseason so it's not rocket science) was curious to me as well. I understand not having Smoot on an island. After yesterday, I'm hoping Springs starts and Macklin is our #3. That being said, the young Miami OL wouldn't have held up against blitzes in my opinion. Maybe Grilliams just doesn't trust our coverage units enough at this point.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Glass,

I think the lack of blitzing had more to do with Trent Green and less to do with the OL.

In a tight game I have more faith in Trent Green beating our coverage than our blitz package getting to him.

He's not someone who gets rattled and makes mistakes.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

My take on Godfrey is that he is the 2007 version of Troy Vincent. Old guy, fabled career, insufficiently loved by the team who should have been the last one of his golden years. Great for the locker room and practice field. Knows glory. There so that starters and depth can learn from his intangibles. One season depth ... hopefully a "big play" before he goes (like Vincent's blocked punt last season ... or was it a FG?).

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

First off, RC, I never said anything CLOSE to that, nor was I asking for anything close to that.

However, "if we had Portis, and you didn't", I also wasn't picking up on your fantasy-land talk either.

Last week you were quite certain that you'd win, and that Traylor would beat the guts out of someone, and that Samuels would struggle with Taylor, and on and on.

I'd say that a great number of teams would love to have Betts as their #2 back.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 10, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Greg, you gotta admit it didn't feel as, ah, comfortable a win as it might have. We have a lot of problemos to address.

I'm really happy the Fins don't seem to have a #1 running back, and I'm glad some of their receivers came down with recurring dropsy.

I hate the thought that bringing even ONE blitzer will create even MORE open space downfield, given how easy it was for Grampa Green to find open dudes and get the ball to them.

And again, I just don't want to see a freakin' dink and dunk clinic next Monday on Andy Reid/Donovan McNabb "we're gonna party like it's 2004" throwback night. Perish the thought.

I wanna believe we have a GOOD CHANCE against the Iggles. I wanna scrape together enough HOPE from yesterday's game to not be puking my guts out next Monday afternoon from the nerves. That's all I'm sayin'.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the correction on Cooley 'sween, I meant "10 yard catch on a 3rd and 7". Zach Thomas must have seen that play in his nightmares all last night, he just blew it.

Greg, I think you're just determined to see everything I post as an excuse for us having lost the game - it's not. This game is meaningless in the course of this season for Miami - if we're going anywhere into post season it's by getting results against the Pats (looks real bad for us) and Jests (may have a chance) and Buffalo (gotta win both).

I really enjoyed the game yesterday, the atmosphere was great, the fans from both sides (one idiot, drunk Miami fan in a Culpepper shirt who shot his mouth off for the whole of half-time excepted) were great, and I don't even mind that we lost.

Fixing the 'Fins is going to take YEARs, not 1 year, but there were some signs that we might get fixed for all that which would be nice after 5 years without a playoff game.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Things that happened yesterday that we should draw conclusions from:

1. Stepped up play by ARE.
2. Portis/Betts and a solid rushing attack.
3. Deep passes mixed with solid rushing.
4. Stepped up performance by the Defense.
5. Clevland's performance yesterday.
6. New England and Randy Moss--God help the rest of the NFL.

Things that happened yesterday that we should NOT draw conclusions from:

1. Eagles and McNabb's performance in loss to Green Bay. They tend to lay eggs for week 1 and follow up with same old solid play afterward.
2. Eli Manning and Giants offensive production in loss to Dallas. No one was playing any defense during that game.

The above post represents the opinion of nyskinsfan only. If this blog posting differs from future events and reality, reality governs in all cases. Please do not use this information to make financial decisions.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 10, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Yes, blitzing is not rocket science. Teams do it in the preseason. In the preseason, you are learning about your players, not trying to win games. Sending a blitzer means you have 10 guys to manage the job of 11. That means 10 guys who are solid and tight on the fundamentals. The lack of blitzing was about winning the game and not needing to blitz b/c Green didn't need to be hurried up ... he was hurried up as it was. Two sacks! TWO SACKS! Blitzing is about feeding the lust for mayhem. With two sacks, lust is fed.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

MIAMI DOLPHINS totally SUCK & you guys are acting like they beat a playoff team? SKINYs almost loss to a Really BAD team at HOME!

Posted by: Put the KOOLAIDE down IDIOTS! | September 10, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Sorry dudes, I'm all over the map with the free-association rambling this morning. Just a jumble of mixed feelings about a win which should (if there were any justice) be unequivocally positive!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Nate,

"I wanna believe we have a GOOD CHANCE against the Iggles. I wanna scrape together enough HOPE from yesterday's game to not be puking my guts out next Monday afternoon from the nerves. That's all I'm sayin'."

That is so perfect. I read these posts because It makes me feel better to know that there are people out there who are as nuerotic as i am about laundry.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Greg, never confuse pre-game trash talk with actual considered opinion!! I thought we could win, and we nearly did - but we didn't, and didn't deserve to, so there it is.

I wouldn't have felt any happier if we had won on the basis of how we played though. We (Miami) have lots of stuff to fix.

And Nate, the answer to your worries on blitzing is that every time the Skins did anything remotely like a blitz, Green passed the ball straight up the middle to Chatman or Brown who ran straight ahead waiting for the pass. We picked up about 65 yards right up the gut that way. If you had been blitzing it might have got really ugly.

I'm sure Grilliams will fix that one before next week as McNabb should be a much better QB than Green - yesterday notwithstanding.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

nyskinsfan, that's what I'm afraid of, that the Iggles will come home to the Linc and settle in and be the team a lot of us thought they were. It's a trap!

Again, I'm heartened that we only eked out a close win because nobody, nobody in our locker room should be feeling too good even in victory. We better bring the same stick-to-it-iveness to Philly with us, or it's gonna be a Monday Night Shabingus.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Financial comment was funny nyskinfan and your opinions are clearly after you guzzle KOOL-AIDE! your advice on financial? is only opinion based on REALITY!I will take your advice and disrecard your OPINION!!

Posted by: Thanks nyskinfan | September 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Good grief, I sure sound like a Gloomy Gus up here today. Sorry about that. It's the catharsis of the blog, you know, I need to work through a lot of issues in this forum. Thanks for indulging me. Glad to see at least some of you (anonymous at 10:12) are in a similar boat.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

*SalleMae*

Rogers made the TD-saving tackle on Booker in the 3rd quarter that caused us to kick a field goal instead. From the other end of the field I thought Booker still put the ball down well inside the 1, but saw it last night and he was a little over a yard short.

If you'd gone behind at that point the game goes very differently, so I think only 2 TCCLs is a bit grudging. :-)

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

We better fix this coverage thing, and fast. Smoot is a better in man to man than zone, and they gave Chambers space like he was Randy Moss.

Combine that loose coverage and no edge pressure, and a lot of teams will have their way.

Doc Walker said Springs had tweaked his Achilles in the last preseason game, but said he was fine after the game. Clearly, he's our best corner, but there's gotta be something between him and GWilliams.

Props to Coat for backing his boys and taking the jabs.

HAIL!

Posted by: k Squared | September 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

You gotta love what being at one end of the stadium does for your perspective on kicks.

Fields (the Miami punter) made one punt where I thought "that's just terrible" but then it went out on about the 22, so I thought "not too bad", but when I saw it last night on TV it was just flat-out bad, a 30 yard shank off his shin or something. :)

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Thank God the Eag's suck worse than us. We may have a chance on the road.

We need at LEAST another week for this offense to come together (or catch a FRIGGIN BALL). Then two apparently high pow'rd offenses come into town...2-2? Hopefully? 4-0 w/ kool aid?

Posted by: Pub Golf | September 10, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Skinz/Sween, you both made solid points about the blitz. I just harken back to a few years ago when we used the blitz to force the opposing QB to throw to a particular place at a particular time. It put more pressure on the QB and it helped our DBs anticipate plays. It also forced RBs to stay in to pick up the blitz instead of always being another QB option. Again, that was with Springs in good form so I can only guess we just don't have that trust in Rogers/Smoot.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Rodgers go beat by the TE on 4th and goal. His man, no safety help, man to man... he f'ed it up.

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous A** Clown,

Caps and exclamation points help to discredit your already unintelligible ramble. Seriously, do you have a point? Let's discuss. Thanks

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 10, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Nate,

That was me at 10:12.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

If you mean the TD, that was 3rd and goal Z. We f'd the clock management up on that drive but Green/Peele saved out butts.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

1st rd 5th overall pick Landry 0 impact plays in 1st game starting!
1st rd 26th overall pick DE Spencer had 2 impact plays!
Both players were all over the place but Rookie Spencer was more visable!

Posted by: Skinys 1st rd rookie vs Boys 1st rd Rookie | September 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

MNF at the Linc will be a completely different game. Night time. Not playing on the Equator. Rude home crowd. One win under our belts (against a team with one messy diaper under its belt).

My game ball goes to Saunders for re-balancing the game and remember that the Skins (can) have a rushing game. My biggest worry going into the game was the HUGE question mark in the rushing game. The Skins' O-line was together enough to make the running game available. Plus, late substitutor Heyer STOPPED Jason Taylor, who flipped and flopped from left to right and back.

Against Philly, they need to pound the ball again. The label on Trotter was that he was a "rush stopping" MLB. Skins need to "rush start up" hard, fast, and repeatedly again in the middle. Softening up the underbelly keeps the DEs off Jason Campbell. Solid play calling by Saunders yesterday.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

And Nate;

I saw your response to my inquiry about the roll call... nuff said... did you get those images?

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

so whats everyone think about wade stepping in in place of janson? i know he did pretty well last year when he stepped in against the saints, hows everyone think this is going to go??

Posted by: peter | September 10, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Not that anyone asked, but I happen to think that this win will look more impressive as the season goes on...sort of like the win over the Bears 2 years ago.

Miami has a solid D, a very proven veteran QB and solid WRs. They will be decent this year, I think.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

For newbies and forgetful regulars: if you don't ITA, they never go away.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Cowpies fan;

The fact our safeties did not have to make impact plays speaks to the play of the entire Defense.

They were in run support and ST knocked some heads around there.

I did not see any completions over the top, did you?

Hopefully a DE makes a couple of impact plays as he is nearer to the ball than most.

Nice try

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Love the sellers transcribe - thx.

Sellers is a beast btw. Any one see the Gut where he drilled ZT back 3 yards? Reminded me of the Christian Okoye days.

Trent threw at smoooot all day. almost EVERY pass was at smoot or HB circle. smoot held his own, no real big plays given up.

Posted by: Pub Golf | September 10, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Half Full, I've been thinking the same thing.

Miami is not that far away from a decent season. Trent Green is a huge upgrade at the QB position for them and their D has always been fierce.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 10, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Pub, if you mean mine it was Cooley, not Sellers

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

RC, agree to disagree, okay?

If anyone wants to throw up their breakfast, the Times has a 'game-photo' section, in which Jansen is lying on his back, and his right foot is at a complete 90 angle to his leg. I feel for the guy, tough, tough break this early in the year.

We put up 400 yards of offense on a pretty good defense, with Moss, and Cooley having minimal effect on the game.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 10, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Neither the Giants nor Cowboys D frightens me AT ALL. bring it ON!

Posted by: Dik | September 10, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

GHF? Definitely this was a solid game. Yes, Jason Campbell had some rough spots, but that shouldn't surprise anyone and everyone has been saying this whole time that that has to be expected as Jason ripens into the king we have crowned him to be.

Wade v. Heyer ... hmm ... let me just say how psyched I am that the Skins have a choice this season ... and frankly I don't care who they stick in there b/c I am more than happy with either. O-line depth (contributed to) the undoing of last season. I'm wondering whether we aren't underestimating just how much St. Joe, in his OTHER job, of "Team President" might have had to do with the wise sobriety of this past offseason.

Corners (like last season, only this season with depth) still seems like a problem. GHF, good point about blitzing as a means to compensate for less-than-ideal corners.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Peter I'm getting the feeling they might leave heyer in there for jansen... who knows though

Posted by: Dante | September 10, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

zebra
you continue to fool yourself that your opponent DOLPHINS 6-10 last yr has a good offense? And they did MOVE & SCORE on Skinys D which is a roadmat for all cordinators of better offenses to EXPLOIT!

Posted by: Nice Try Zebra! YOUR FIRED | September 10, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Along the lines of things to draw conclusions about....

1) Agree with the running attack. Looked good from the start. Looked better as the game went on. Miami had a great defense last year.

2) Our defensive secondary was exposed. Our corners are not as good as I had hoped. Smoot was beat on every play. He made only one play that i can remember, and that was on the INT he dropped. On the good side, missed tackles were way down and we did not give up any really long plays (which was a MAJOR problem last year).

3)JC is young. Flashes of brilliances. Moments of frustrating play. Got better as the game went on. He has a GREAT arm and can run. He'll keep getting better and I am overall still optimistic about him.

4) Cooley missed a lot of blocks. He made a few too. Props for that. But it seemed that the DE or LB that he seemed to be responsible for made a lot of at or behind the line tackles.

5) BLloyd doesn't have it. This sucks.

6) Oline did well, even with a rookie RT. Samuels didn't skip a beat. Kendall looked good except for the time he inexplicibly ran into JC. Optimistic and hope for remaining injury free.

7) Kicking game - SOLID. Like Suisham. Hopefully he's Dallas's version of our Akers.

Things not to read too much into:

1) ARE and his returns.

2) Lack of "big plays" by the safeties

3) Moss and a poor showing though he killed me on fantasy....

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 10, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Hats off Redcoat your taking your whupping...I am not one to beat on a dude when they lose, b/c I am one empathetic mofo and I hate it when it happens to me so.....

Good luck the rest of the way to you and yours, help out the skins and pick up some wins against the NFC East my man!

Posted by: Chris larry | September 10, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Dik
skinys OFFENSE & DEFENSE SCARE no one! & you will CRY as YOU have every yr since 91!

Posted by: Dik the other skiny blogers like you (ALOT) | September 10, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The Skins schedule (incl. preseason) has been unexpectedly great for development of the Skins' O. BAL/JAX/MIA/PIT are all VERY solid defenses, probably some of the best they will face this year.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Very excited to start the season off at 1-0...

A few thoughts/observations:

1. Portis/Betts/o-line appear to be in mid-season form. I hope the o-line can keep it up, even with the loss of Jansen. Speaking of Jansen, am I the only one who thought Taylor was offsides on the play he got injured on?

2. Love JC's ability to stretch the field. We just didn't have that with Brunell, minus a few games in '05.

3. I'm not worried at all about Moss. He simply had an off day.

4. Very encouraged about ARE, who stepped up yesterday as the clear-cut #2 WR. He was also 1 missed cut away from breaking a PR in the 2nd half.

5. Still dissappointed and angry about the Lloyd signing. The guy didn't get very many opportunities yesterday, but 1 catch per game for 30/10, plus 2 mid round picks, still makes me sick to my stomach.

6. Defense is much improved, but got lucky yesterday with some overthrows and drops. I'm not sure what the story is with Springs, but he has to be a better option than Smoot. I'd still like to see some more pressure out of the dline, but I was happy to see Carter get a sack. Rocky and Fletcher are the real deal at LB.

7. Suisham looked solid as a rock. The guy flat out nailed every kick yesterday and had decent kickoffs.

8. Still not sure how I feel about Gibbs' decision to kick a 40 yd FG on 1st down. I was at the SD game in '05 when Rabach got the holding penalty that pushed them out of range for John Hall... it was horrifying. After hearing Gibbs bring that back up, I understood where he was coming from, but I'm still not sure I agree with it. Thankfully Suisham nailed it and it's a moot point.

9. Crowd was pretty decent yesterday... very loud and festive. I still saw way too many empty seats, but that's pretty standard for FedEx.

10. Overall, a great win. Heck, after 5-11 last year, any win is a great win. And how great is it to start the year off 1-0? I still think we'll be in great shape if we can get to 2-1 by the bye and 4-2 before the NE and NYJ road trips.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Where was 30 million dollar COOOOOOLEY? Thinking of a way out!

Posted by: Can i buy my way out of this SUCKY team like LAVAR? | September 10, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

In defense of Cooley, Dierdorf and Gumble blamed him for one of Portis' early negative carries but they were wrong. Kendall had gone wide and their was a lot of room to run. Cooley sealed Porter inside but Portis also cut inside, right to where Porter was being blocked. That was Portis' rust, not Cooley's bad block, and Portis even alluded to that after the game.

Also, on the TD, look what Cooley did to Jason Taylor. That block sprung Portis. I don't buy this "Cooley can't block" stuff to be honest with you.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm wondering whether we aren't underestimating just how much St. Joe, in his OTHER job, of "Team President" might have had to do with the wise sobriety of this past offseason.

Great point dcsween

Posted by: Dante | September 10, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,
No, but that was silly too - It was a running play up the middle, my seats were endzone and offense coming at me, so I just saw ZT's legs go up and back like he got hit by a truck as he tackled the ball carrier. Pretty sure it was #45 though.

Posted by: Pub Golf | September 10, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Later all you KOOLAIDE drinking AS* CLOWNS! I have to ITA you DUMBA** fans who know so LITTLE about the NFL!! IM OUT!

Posted by: HAVE FUN stroking each other!! | September 10, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Where was 30 million dollar COOOOOOLEY? Thinking of a way out!

Posted by: Can i buy my way out of this SUCKY team like LAVAR? | September 10, 2007 10:45 AM

Campbell said he was being "boxed in" all day. If you want me to explain what that means, I'll be happy to.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

RB,

I TOTALLY agree with you about the offsides non call. Taylor definitely was offside.

Not as bad a missed offsides call as the one in the Chargers game where Rivers never got the snap because the nosetackle jumped the snap and hit him. It is was a horrible non-call.

Does anyone else hate Dierdorf as much as I do?

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 10, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS SUCK


ITA PEACE OUT!
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Posted by: REDSKINETTES SUCK | September 10, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Pub, I meant the transcribe, im sure it was sellers on the play. I transcribed cooley this am from DC101.

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Thanks cL, much obliged.

I shall be wending my way off the Blog soon as there won't be much in common for us to talk of from here on out, but it's been a lot of fun to chat with you guys.

I'd like to propose 5 TCCLs for Joe Bugel, he did you guys proud and got your O-line dead right for this one. Jason Taylor got really frustrated as the game went on and got called on a couple of stupid penalties because of it.

One question: can anyone explain to me why you got an 'intentional grounding' on us at the end of Q4? It really looked like a make-up call for the pass interference on Chambers which looked really soft.

Greg, agreed to 'agree to disagree'.

And GHF/nyskinsfan, bless you both for thinking that we're not a bad team, but we are still bad at this point. But at least it's with a small, not capital 'b' now.

Remember, a 9-7 or 10-6 season doesn't get you in the playoffs in the AFC lately, and we don't look close to being the 11-5 team we'd need to be to probably make it, especially as we have to play the Patriots twice!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Was anyone as glad as I was to see Archibingus getting burned and missing all those plays in a Bears uniform?

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Some areas of opportunity clearly exist. But how can you knock a team's D when it holds the opposition to 13 points?

I know it's the Dolphins and I know that they're not an offensive powerhouse, but this was the first game and our D did what it had to do.

BTW...a few of those dropped Miami balls can be credited to the defense. They were clearly dropped as a result of 'hearing footsteps.' I think that last crucial one definitely. Had that ball have been caught, dude would have had to have left on a cart. ST slowed up and still ran into him and the refs didn't call the late hit because it was already so much in progress.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

A few things:

Our D played ok today. GREAT run defense. Mediocre pass defense.

Same with our O - GREAT run offense. Pass offense improved as the game went on. Although JC needs to show more presence in the pocket, learn to fell the rush and step up in the pocket to avoid sacks and pressures.

I know there's always some calls you'd like to have back or like to have called. But the play Jansen got hurt, the Dolphins were offsides coming around Samuels. Similarly the 4th and 2 they called an illegal formation that wasn't. Ticky tack stuff and I'm glad we got the win but had we gotten those two right from the zebras we'd have not had to go to OT.

Also - our players REALLY have to watch what they do with the ball when they make a good play. CP spinning the ball like that is illegal this year and the zebras could've called it in OT and 5 yard penalty. Someone said this earlier in talking about CP and referenced Michael Westrbrook (quote below);

--"Actually wasn't ot the last Miami game that he took off his helmet and cost us 15 yards and a winning field goal?"---

Westbrook did it against the Gients when Norv was still here. We ended up tying them (our last tie game) and missing the playoffs becasue of that boneheaded move as we were edged out in tiebreakers because of the lost 1/2 game from the tie.

Posted by: Thaiphoon | September 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Souper encouraging: Santana and Chaos are both more or less bottled up all day -- coverage, dropsy, possible owie on Santana's hand, Cooley helping block, whatever -- and Campbell finds ARE over and over.

I wasn't happy with all JC's decisions, but he looked good more than he looked bad. And then gets to Cooley on that critical OT toss to keep the drive going, the one we HAD to have. Taking some solace that the passing game was good when we needed it, and that we got a win even looking less than sharp.

Also, and this is on the record, F Brandon Lloyd.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

CaroCanes,

He was so far offside (in my mind at least) that I thought the play should have been whistled dead and Jansen isn't lost for the year... but what can you do?

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 10, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

F Dierdorf...

Love the wrap up Ricky Bobby..

Now I GOTTA work!

Posted by: chrIr LaRry | September 10, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Wait Dallas fan;

So your are going to hang your hat on a week one victory with no D against the gmen, but yell at us for being slightly optimistic after our win?

Your team won the SB in 95/96 the last time right? 2 or 3 playoff appearances since, right?

We last won in 91-92... 4 years diff... okay but makes little difference 10 years down the road doesnt it?

We have been to two playoff appearances since.

Who do you honestly think will have a worse record this year? Gmen or Miami?

I guess that will tell the story as will our 2 head to head matchups. But I have always said I think we and Dallas battle it out for division supremacy.

We shall see

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

It's a zero-sum game, Zebra! Get out while you still can.

I'll send you a note about tee shirts when I get some time to work on them...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Taiphoon,

That was a Giants game at FedEx. I remember it so well because I had a "bet" on the game with a girl who lived on my dorm floor in college...

Michael Westbrook cost me a "you know what" and I'll never forget it...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 10, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Why does anyone think that WADE PHILLIPS will be able to take the Girls to the SuperBowl. He'll implode. Never been impressed with him as HC.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 10, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

i was expecting a shlacking for the fins cuz i thought st. joe would go in with run run run run run run run run run bomb...

but i wasn't expecting weird al to call a passing play after a 4 yard run and a 7 yard run by portis.

skins have a "rookie" QB. if something is working why stop it? why not let the opponent stuff it first? again we got a rookie QB. when is weird al going to call the game that caters to his personnel?

if the skins had a vet. QB who has the timing all set with the receivers and all. then i could understand "mixing it up". AND you've got a QB in JC who's best "pitch" is a bomb on the sidelines.

but i think st. joe kinda got a hold of the situation(weird al) during halftime. THANK GOD!

i'm very pleased with this team. i just think weird al needs to have more faith in the running game. and double G's or his staff needs to get along better with their star players. without shawn springs this is a middle of the pack defense. skins will play better QBs than trent green like tom brady and peyton and if shawn isn't starting...

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Kinda like expecting a Norv Turner led team to make it to the Super Bowl....

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | September 10, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Spencer vs. Landry? Are you kidding?

Postgame: "I bet there won't be a lot of people to run on that defense with Landry in the box," Cam Cameron said.

Redskins gave up 13 points. Cowboys gave up 35. I guess we can't blame Spencer for all of that though, it was mostly Roy Williams getting torched in coverage all night long, just like every other game.

Posted by: JT | September 10, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

1,100eenth!

Redcoat, say it isn't so... leaving RI Nation. I understand though. Good chatting with you the last few weeks.

Maybe your family will influence you to drop the 'Fins and Hail the 'Skins.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

OK one more than trabajo time...

Does anyone else sense were going to enjoy this team this year more even if it isn't the rousing success we hope it to be?

I do!

Posted by: chrIr LaRry | September 10, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

guys, i think SPINNING the ball is actually legal. if you throw it away or something then it's illegal.

i'll check on that.

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

1017 posts...isn't it getting to be time for a newer update then yesterday's inactives?

I understand the personal/professional conflicts in everyone's life so I wonder if the Post will see fit to add the new writer to this blog? We have an insatiable appetite so it'd be a nice addition IMO. They do it on the Wiz blog and that works well.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

1,100 comments on this thread in less than a full day. Wow and wow.

And to think we're not even working on a Boren deadline (I can't even remember what was stipulated in the Boren Ultimatum except reaching 100k, which is child's play.) Good stuff.


Hail to the blog.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Cyndy, where is Jason #2? Thought we would have heard from him by now.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

cL, I know I'm already having more fun. I think it was HaikuMan who yesterday said something about how every game is probably going to be like this, a la the Kardiac Kids. Wins are wins. I don't mind ugly, but a whole season of them just might be bad for my ticker. The only SOLID win from last year was that one in New Orleans. I'd like at least one solid win, but right now, none of the ones in the foreseeable future look that way, at least not yet.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I really don't want to spend any part of this Monday acknowledging Boofer's existence, but, mea cupla mea cupla, mea maxima cupla...

Giants, with a back up RB, put up 35, and may have won the game if Eli could have stayed healthy and given them one more clock eating drive.

Good looking out Zeb - but don't spend too much time with boofer - not worth it.

RB - It's almost time to bury this BLoyd thing, no? We signed Cooley, got a great non draft pick up in Heyer, and signed Betts (watch how huge that is weeks 10-17). They've made up for it, and Lloyd is a good #3. In the business, we call it a "sunk cost". You've already spent it, so no use complaining about. But you are an HR guy, aren't you...

Posted by: Pub Golf | September 10, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

RC,

From where I was sitting it looked like a pretty clear Int. grounding call. I was on the other side of the field though.


I got some good looks at our players. Heye looks really soft but plays tough.

Most striking though was M. Sellers. I know I am a major fan of Sellers but seriously, he must be top 5 "NFL players I'd least likely to run into in a dark alley".

That man made our OL and DL guys look small. He is ridiculously massive.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

GHF, I think we're going to have to take what the defense gives us up here.

We should try to focus on the thread at hand and do our level best until a new thread comes along.

My Kool-Aid glass remains half full, by the way, but I'm now sipping rather than chugging.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I meant second writer, not new writer. I'm not dissing Jasno, just yearning for more.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The replay showed Trent Green was pretty much straight back from center when he threw the ball out of bounds.

Easy grounding call.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

spinning is legal

Perhaps most notably, officials are prepared to crack down on players who punctuate non-scoring plays with a spike or backward heave of the football. Since such actions usually require officials to chase down the ball, they will now be classified as delay of game and will draw a five-yard penalty. Spiking the ball in the end zone or spinning the ball near one's feet after a catch is still permissible. Not being able to do so at the 50-yard line might help some players who struggle with common sense.

http://www.pressreleases.info/EN/archive/2007/200708/20070803/20070803_162813.shtm

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Coach,

Why didn't I start? I can cover better than Smooty, though I can't trash talk quite as well!

Posted by: Shawn Springs | September 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Maybe your family will influence you to drop the 'Fins and Hail the 'Skins.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:03 AM

Thanks SC, I've enjoyed it too. I can't change allegiance after 23 years in the Super Bowl-less desert, now can I? Besides, if you asked Mrs Redcoat she'd tell you I'm sometimes stubborn to the point of ornery.

I just love the game; I wish I'd lived here when growing up because it's exactly the game I would have loved playing instead of the football (soccer)/rugby/track and field that I did instead.

I like talking with people who love the game too, regardless of who they support. Speak it softly, but sometimes my enjoyment of the game itself overrides my desire for Miami to win every week, yesterday being a good example; a great 'game' in terms of excitement but not as much great 'play'.

I'll stick around on and off the rest of the day to say "thankyou Sir, please may I have another" on my beatings and then ride off into the sunset.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Nate, 100K definitely looks like childs' play ... and b/c of it, I want to remake the push for quality ... and put quantity back in the box for a while. Some frustrating moments during the game yesterday when Loseable Type and Oreo Pizza gobbled up some of my posts. I just went looking for my thought about Taylor being offsides when Jansen went down. It wasn't there. The blog was solid on Oreo Pizza around then, less stuff about Jansen and the offsides.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, great point... I knew the sub was Heyer when I caught a glimpse of those tiny little Pop Warner shoulder pads and those womanly hips of his.

That kid sure did play some mean pinball, though, didn't he? Really impressive for the kid. Never thought I would be grateful for a preseason injury, but thank goodness Heyer got so many snaps in preseason on the left side. He looked awfully good out there.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

They've made up for it, and Lloyd is a good #3.

PG, tell that to riggo who called him a loser actually his direct quote is "85 is a loser!" and thinks they need a new #3.

and i totally agree with mr. riggo.

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

sween, maybe when Cindy throws up a new post (hint, hint!) she'll pull that big lever from the "Quantity" position to the "Quality" position.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Just saw the tally on the posts.

DAGGG! You guys are sick in a super awesome way.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 10, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Nate:
I am still very much drinking the Kool Aid. In fact, I think our offense will be top 10-15 this year when it's all said and done, due to our running game. Ditto our defense. In the NFC that should mean a good # of wins.

On to Philly. I don't know if we'll win but I'm sure we'll be competitive.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I am way pro multiple Wash Po writers on the blog, imagine where we would be without Cyn CYndy...defunct is my guess

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

We need a new post

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Was Thrash in on O at all yesterday? Seems like he was better suited to the game we were playing, with his good blocking skillz and good hands.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

nate, after #85 gave up the INT he was no longer seen on the field. instead on 3 receiver sets james thrash was indeed on the field as the #3.

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

The Times picture of Jansen reminds me why these guys get paid so much.

My thoughts go out to that Bills dude in the hospital. This is a game for men.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

ACTUALLY, i maybe wrong about #85 not being on the field AT ALL after the INT. i think he actually made a catch...didn't he? if that is the case you can blame the misinformation on tripple X.

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I could have sworn the receiver caught a ball yesterday, but NFL.com (and JLaC) indicate that he had 0 catches.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

cindy, we need a new post. PLEASE! pretty please! with clive owen on top!

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Pass me the KA!!!!

Early prediction for Monday night:

Skins 20
Eagles 17

I can't believe the Skins are 7.5 dogs already...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 10, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

#85s one catch was negated when we accepted a penalty against the defense...

sorta sumz it up right there huh?

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 10, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Yup CL...props to Cyn. The case for >1 writer on the blog is very simple. It's football season and we can't get enough. I don't think any writer could keep up with the demand on this blog. Feed us more and we'll keep coming back to the website.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

** Picking self up from floor **
** Breathing again. Heart Pumping again **
** Adjusting left. Adjusting right **

It was never in doubt!!! 1-0!!!!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 10, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I thought thrash was on lots in the second half instead of "The Receiver TM".

A remark from the Skins fan I went with yesterday "how the h*ll do you know so much about the Skins?". I gave props to you guys for teaching a poor Miami fan the whys and wherefores.

Jason Taylor got a jump on the play on the Jansen injury, he's fast so it looked even worse than it actually was, but he did go early.

Green spoke today about the intentional grounding, he was confused about it too as he actually just threw straight over the top of Martin who was supposed to be the receiver on that play anyway. Just one of those things I think.

As for Sellers, I think he got a reception in the backfield (wide left) early in the first quarter and at one point there were at least 3 Miami defenders hanging off of him like a gang of midgets on a grizzly bear while he still refused to go to ground!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

SC Skins and dealer,

Lloyd caught one ball for about 2 yards, but it was erased after the Skins accepted a 5-yard offsides call on Miami.

Zero catches it is...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 10, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

35 or so more comments and we'll have a new thread record...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 10, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I am surprised that we have not heard from Jason Reid over in the print section.

Maybe he is working on a big piece. But don't we usually hear from beat writers the night of a game before the article is in print on Monday?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see the game so are there any guesses on whether Heyer's play earned him the starting RT spot next week or does he go back to backing up Samuels and Wade becomes the new RT?

Posted by: skinswest | September 10, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Blloyd,

He made a catch which was taken away by a defensive penatly which gave us the same yardage. Best I could tell B. Lloyd was off the stat sheet.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

32 more...

Posted by: posts | September 10, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

No matter what... It sure makes Monday's alot better with a Skins win.

For having the offense together for the first time I am plesantly surprised.

Rocky looked absolutely amazing yesterday.

Smoot looked great.

Cooley wasn't a factor because he stayed in to block.

Again, I could care less about the score. Monday's are good!!!

Posted by: Hail to 'em | September 10, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

A win is a win is a win is a win.

I don't think you can read too much into the outcome of this game re: what to expect in the coming weeks.

Both Campbell and Portis admitted after the game that they were too excited and that if affected their play. Portis even went on to say that had he been more calm and more patient that he would have had some long TD runs in the first quarter.

I think that the offense is going to be just fine. They put up 400 yards yesterday in a really sloppy win against a good D - that has to be encouraging for the weeks to come. JC will start hitting those intermediate throws and the touchdown passes will come.

The thing that I'm a little concerned about is the defense. If the CBs stop playing 15 yards off on every play and if the LBs can stop the Copyright 2006 Brunell passes, they'll be ok.

My concern for next week is not the Eagles, but the fact that the Skins don't seem to play well in primetime. And why is it that they're always on the road in week 2 on sunday/monday night football?

Posted by: swb | September 10, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

If we ever want to get anything out of Lloyd sending him to the bench won't get it done. Maybe we've tried it all but I'd call his number a few more times if I were the coaches. Yes...I'm prepared to be flamed.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I think Wade will play the right side. He played it admirably last year and he is too slow for the left side where the speed rushers are.

Heyer has proven he can play both sides and is a more suitable backup at this point.

Posted by: Skinz channelling I"M BRAM WIENSTIIIIIIIIIINE!!!! | September 10, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

scskinsfan, NOW i rember. that play that he caught the ball on was negated by a penalty on the dolphins. skins took the penalty...

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat-

When asked for an assessment of Sellers, Gibbs replied, "He's a man."

'Nuff said.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

FINE!

cindy, we need a new post. PLEASE! pretty please! with clive owen AND christian bale on top!

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Very busy workday and have only skimmed the posts, but I did want to tell this quick story. I watched the game with my mom and sister at my sister's house. It turns out that my brother-in-law is a big fan of all the FL NFL teams, especially the fins. My mom (92 and sharp as ever), sister, and I had to put with his antics all afternoon. He loves to agitate.

Don't be a stranger. You are welcome here any time, especially for the jibba jabba.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 10, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

85 did catch a pass yesterday but there was a penalty on Miami that resulted in more yards so we took it.

Posted by: Lloyd Sucks | September 10, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Hey Mark (in 2112) great to see you've finally finished mowing!! :-)

I have a ribbing from all Mrs Redcoat's fmaily to come this evening I think - I'm sure they'll phone up 'just because'.

But at least it's still 7-5 to us in the series. A (very) small crumb of comfort.

It's been an honour to both jibba and jabba with you.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

HAIL!!!!

A win is a win is a win. Can we please banish LLoyd though, he had inside position for a TD and the ball literally went through his hands for an INT, ARE obviously can produce, let's dump him now when we might be able to get a 5th before another season of zero production makes it obvious to everyone how absolutely worthless he is.

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Some intel on McNabb's pedestrian performance from the Philadelphia Inquirer:

"A year ago, the Eagles trailed Green Bay by 9-7 at the half at Lincoln Financial Field when McNabb caught fire, leading the team to a 31-9 rout. That is the McNabb everyone within the organization and without is waiting to see again. But the guy who rang up a 108.8 passer rating against the Packers a year ago wasn't around yesterday.

Instead, it was a karaoke impostor who looked heavy-legged at times and indecisive at others. His numbers weren't horrible, but they didn't add up to anything, either."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Expect McNabb to have a season similar to Carson Palmer's last year. He won't feel "great" all year long. The difference is the Eagles have a solid D.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | September 10, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I beat the bears!

Posted by: Norv Turner | September 10, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone else see the picture on the times website showing the blloyd-gave-up-on-the-play INT in the end zone? The ball is literally in lloyd's hands, and he somehow didn't come away with it. Amazing

Posted by: swb | September 10, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I don't recall what the occasion of the longest thread ever was... what on earth could we have been discussing? Were Cyn and J-La both on vacation, were we working towards one of our Milestones?

Drawing a blank... but then, the whole history of this blog is like a blur anyway, especially given the super sharp focus on the Real Football which occurred yesterday...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Great article here on why my chargers are better than marty noballsenheimer's chargers
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/09/09/chargers/index.html

Posted by: Norv Turner | September 10, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I think Jason has lost his Joy de vivre for this blog. Perhaps "new guy" can come in and give us some posts. In the mean time, we need a TCCL post.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Jasno filed 3 reports yesterday. He deserves a break.

Cyndy will come in with a new post prol this afternoon. My guess is that the staff are in meetings all morning.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Norval rubbing off on LT:

"It doesn't matter what happens on Sunday,'' he said. "It does, but it doesn't. And the reason why is it's the next game. That's why it matters. But it doesn't matter because we may see them again."

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 10, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Skinz,

I think jasno is over worked right now... he said that last year he would sit in the park and blog while howard bryant went out and interviewed people. With the new jason not yet settled jasno has almost no time to spare and is having to do the interview, phonecall load of two people not to mention has a newborn and a 2 yr. old at home

let's wait and see what happens once the new jason gets established ( i didn't even see an article from him today) before we pass judgement on jasno's joie de vivre

Posted by: Dante | September 10, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Actually, in days of blog yore, Friday was TCCL's day.

Monday was for J-La's seminal "Monday Morning H-Back."

Pining...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

** Picking self up from floor **
** Breathing again. Heart Pumping again **
** Adjusting left. Adjusting right **

It was never in doubt!!! 1-0!!!!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 10, 2007 11:28 AM

LMAO! Adjusting left and right. That's way T.M.I.

Posted by: NorvaLT | September 10, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Skinz, Dante, I think Jasno has all but admitted that the bloom is off the blog rose. The beat has beaten him down - HoBry left at a critical time, right on the eve of the new season -- and help has been slow in coming.

And Jason is a human being -- he's not immune to the criticism up here which has compromised the joy for a lot of us. Sure, he is known to dish it out, especially when he gets his back up (as he would be the first to admit), but I would say he has taken a beating way out of proportion to whatever he has dished out.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

That's why we need some new blood up here in RI Nation. Sort of like Betts spelling CP, we need Reid up in here spelling Jasno.

I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

There is a difference between somebody who tells the truth, and somebody who twists the truth because they have some sort of vendetta against a team.

Jason's often biased reporting has led to many downright lies during the offseason, and I expect much more out of him during the regular season. The guy is just not a Skins fan.

Having a non-Skins fan for a beat writer would be fine if he was objective........but I think everyone here knows he is not.

Jason is bitter towards the Redskins. It is time for a new beat writer.

Posted by: Time For Change | September 10, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

By my count (from MV Dame's recent post), we have broken the record for posts under a single thread.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

See, like that.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Good work on this monster thread, everybody.

Am I remembering incorrectly? Did we get TCCLs on Mondays last season? Memory fails...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with Jason not loving it. Nor do I have any problem with his writing or so called "negativity".

I just want some formality to the blog. Give us a new post with some form of structure.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

OK,OK

Nate Lamented: "Actually, in days of blog yore, Friday was TCCL's day. Monday was for J-La's seminal "Monday Morning H-Back." Pining..."

Nate, sugar, you are correct. Thank you, dear, for the reminder. Am I getting old? is 46 old?

*hugs*

Posted by: SallieMae | September 10, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Yup, I hear ya, Nate.

Honestly though, I don't think Jasno has the time or cares about the haters up here. He has been a beat reporter for 15 years or so. Remember the "Funk-Free Zone" thread? He has a thick skin.

I think Jasno is really being pushed hard right now by WaPo. I just don't understand how the WaPo failed to get another beat reporter in here quick enough after HoBry left.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't agree more with Nate. Jason has been abused on this blog (as I have) because he has been honest about this team and hasn't reported in a "Pro Redskins" light. Which he is exactly what he is supposed to do I might add. But he has gotten killed on here because he hasn't turned every report or story into why the Redskins aren't the best team in the league. (which they are nowhere close to)

Love the win!!!!! love being 1-0 and a game up on the Eagles. But I still think the 14-2 13-3 predictions are ridiculous. This is a 10-6 or 9-7 team and I'm hoping for 10-6. I think this team is capable of winning its division and making some noise in a first round playoff game, but it isn't a dominant team, Miami is not a legit opponent and we barely beat them, let's see how we do in Philly under the bright Monday night lights. I'm hoping to be 4-2 heading to Foxborough, if that's the case, we are legitimately in the playoff race.

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I agree entirely. A new thread every morning, a fresh start (with even one tiny nugget of Information or News to get us talking), would be nice.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I have a serious problem with the fact that our beat writer makes stuff up.....he was proven wrong so many times this offseason, to the point where I wasn't sure if he even cared about facts.

It is time for a new beat writer.....or maybe the Post just hates its Skins fans, one of the biggest groups that reads it sports section.

If you agree with me, write the Post as I have and ask for a new beat writer - one who is objective.

Posted by: Time for Change | September 10, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Time For Change, you are exactly right.

Jasno isn't a fan of the Skins, nor should he be.

Once again, you are wrong.

I'm fine with criticism, we can all take it, but calling him a liar??? C'mon, man, this is his JOB.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 10, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Wrong about everything else, that is.

Letter writing campaign? Get a life.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 10, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Let's think about the Dolphins game another way.

Would Dallas, New York, or Philadelphia have beaten the 'Fins yesterday?

Dallas and New York showed some crappy Ds yesterday. I didn't watch the Iggles game, but are the Packers better than the 'Fins?

Only time will tell if the 'Fins are push overs, or that we were lucky enough to get them early in the season before Cam and company hit their stride.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"According to a Meadowlands source, a member of the Patriots organization, with a credential issued by the team, was spotted by Jets security chief Steve Yarnell shooting near the New York bench.
And according to the stadium source, when questioned by Yarnell, the unnamed individual said that he was put up to it by the Patriots.

The cameraman was reportedly accused by Yarnell of shooting the Jets' signals that were being sent by the coaches from the sidelines.

The source says that the NFL is being made aware of this accusation.

If this is true, the Patriots could be subject to a serious punishment from the league office."

http://jets.scout.com/2/677745.html

Posted by: The Pats are dirty!!! | September 10, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I also recall jasno dropped a not too subtle hint to the washpo that he would be able to blog more if he had a blackberry...
cindy let's get him that blackberry...

Posted by: Dante | September 10, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys its nice to win but going into OT with a bottom of the barrel in transition dolphin team at OUR HOUSE is not reassuring?Im tired of saying a WIN is a WIN,Loser teams fans say that.

Posted by: redskinfan#1 | September 10, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

When was he wrong so many times he ignored the facts give me one example?

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Your accusations are misplaced; it is that scurrilous "Cindy Boren" [if that is her real name], who is too "busy" hobnobbing with TK, running (and shopping for new pants as a result), and just sort of lookin' fine in general who must be at the root of our season of blog posting discontent.
88,888 posts... is that all we were to you, Cindy?

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 10, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing the MMorning HB is tracking down injury stuff, etc. Seems more useful reading the ES homers jumping on Jasno (though it is good to see them use a name ... for scrolling past purposes).

I'd like to hear about the health status of Fox (groin?), Santana (hand? wrist?), Smoot (goofy bone?), as well as the status of Samuels' and Portis' knees. And, of course, Jansen ... but that seems a few days off. Hey, anybody got a link to the Times photo of Jansen's paw? Jason Campbell said he had to look away.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

i think jason is p'ed off at us and is taking it on us the only way he can.

you guys should've been nice to him. now we're left with a thread that takes 5 minutes to load.

Posted by: dealer | September 10, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

SallieMae, you're just out of practice! You were much too quiet this offseason. You'll be in game shape before long!

On balance, Jason has written as many "positive" articles as "negative." And for the umpteenth time, this blog is a place for opinions, it's meant to be looser and more informal than proper reportage. We should appreciate that, and enjoy it, but instead the openness here on the blog somehow colors ALL of Jason's work.

At this point J-La's many vociferous haters are choosing to focus on the negative/critical articles and the several wrong guesses, AND are choosing to see negativity even when it's just not there. Would that we were all held to the same lofty standard!

Hello, we root for a team coming off a 5-11 last-place, historically bad season... we should be praising J-La's dogged work on our behalf...

Blah blah blog, whatever, I really love the blog and want to see it continue, because it has actually helped me be a better fan. That's the main thing.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I think what I liked best about yesterday's game is how our team came out of the lockerroom at halftime and promptly marched down the field for a touchdown

Posted by: Dante | September 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Steve in the GP:

I don't suppose you missed the irony when you told me to get a life? I mean you are participating in a 1,000 post blog.

And not a letter writing campaign. Just drop a quick email.

Jason's bitterness is getting old.

Posted by: Time for Change | September 10, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

**Not for the faint of heart***

Sween, here is a smaller version of the Jansen shabingus:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS01/109100066/1005/SPORTS

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Would someone be able to tell me why is it that.. when you go to Redskins.com and click on the listen now radio broadcast at 12:00 which I have been checking for the past 1/2 hour that.. nothing is being broadcasted.

Posted by: gawnpostal | September 10, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Lot of B Lloyd haters in the house. Granted the guy hasn't produced since he got here, but... damn, I got nothing. Haters Justified.

I hope Lloyd comes around. He has HUGE talent, I just hope its realized before he gets dropped like all those passes that hits him in the hands.

Posted by: Dislexic Dex #72 | September 10, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting for that example?

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Time for a change;

You ever heard of Wilbon? Have you ever heard of PTI?

From his own mouth he was asked about this very subject on his chat, and he said with an emphatic NO that a beat writer should not be a fan.

He should be objective if not slightly critical.

Over the course of history, reporters have always been scorned b/c they are objective in a non-objective world. Many a political pundit, many a satirical cartoonist has run a-foul of the government or some other important subject.

There job is clear the heads of the kool-aide drinking homers who naturally put their love, whether it be sports, politics etc.. in a more positive light.

Jasno has been a reporter for many years and is the lead columnist for the most important subject in DC, and for the WaPo... you think they dont know what they are doing? Do you really think they are going to listen to a few when so many like Jasno?

They have been in business for a long-time... im pretty sure they know much more about it than you or I could hope to know.

You dont like, dont read the blog. Ignore Jasno's articles, read the times, read redskins.com. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE HERE!

Posted by: Zebra | September 10, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Time for a change,

I have a issue with people who make unsubstantiated claims. If you don't like Jason, that's fine, I don't really care but don't sit there and say he makes things up without some proof.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, brother, if participating in the blog means no life, then color me guilty, along with . . . well, all of us. I happen to be lucky enough to have a little time on my hands.

It's being one of the few to see "bitterness" in Jason's reporting, and to feel that in return for doing more than his job he should be ousted, that reveals your lack of life.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 10, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Your calls for proof are justified....if I get a chance I will try to go back. There were a bunch of nonstories.

I think it is time for a change, but I am probably the minority.

Carry on.

Posted by: Time for Change | September 10, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

YUCK! That's it ... the WashTimes is shock photojournalism!

[Admittedly, if I didn't feel so bad for Jansen (plus Mrs. Jansen, and the Jansen kids), I'd probably be trying to caption that photo for the other kind of yuck, i.e., yuk yuks.]

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I really think the turning point on jasno was the last blog meetup that we never then heard anything about... bc i don't think anyone showed

Posted by: Dante | September 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"Jason, Charlotte: Why is it that Jason Campbell is very accurate on deep balls, but struggles some on intermediate routes? Do you see their running game really carrying them this year?

Keith Kidd: (12:41 PM ET ) I think their running game will have to carry them, with both Portis and Betts, but I wouldn't buy a lot into his inaccuracies right now. The starters don't play much inthe preseason, so it takes about a month to get the guys in rythym, at least for some offenses. Unless of course you're Brady and Peyton Manning."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I love a beat writer who gives it like it is. This is a 5-11 team trying to rebound (and doing so it looks like so far) but has a joke of a Front Office, an impetuous at best owner, and a coach who is 22-28 since coming back to the sidelines. He should be very critical of this franchise as we all should be. But a lot of people here, accept the party/team line that "this is the year" every year and because its Joe Gibbs give the team a pass when in reality, there have been innumerable personnel gaffs and very little production on the field from a team that is annually (except for the one playoff year) on of the highest paid rosters, and the by far highest paid coaching staff in the league!

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Time for Change, just curious if you've ever written to Jason LaC directly to voice these concerns? He reads and respond to email, and he really welcomes the chance to have spirited dialog, in my experience... I really think you're choosing to see the worst in Jason, who has done us a great service by keeping this blog going, warts and all.

Assuming your campaign for a new beat reporter is not immediately successful, I have been made aware that there is another online forum which is especially accommodating to homers and those who don't cotton to criticism of the Skins. The name escapes me now, but it's out there...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

When Jansen went down, the initial report was that his ankle was "dislocated." Hmmm, ya think? The WaTimes article quotes Holliday as saying it was "bloody." YUCK!

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Time for . . .

I don't normally resort to name calling, and I appreciate that you didn't do so. Smack to my head . . .

Zebra, I've disagreed with you on occasion in the past, but damn with that above post: spot on.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

INACTIVE:

Jason LaCanfora

Posted by: NewBlogPlease | September 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I think I read through everything. I'm surprised no one has mentioned how much of a wuss Sheli made himself look like last night when he took himself out of the game with a bruised shoulder while they were attempting a comeback. Even after he had just led the team on a TD drive WITH the bruised shoulder. Anyone think that McNabb or Favre or BBM or any other repectable QB would have done that. How can hs teammates respect him after that girly move?

Posted by: bigfish | September 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Could everyone please go look at this link:

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/photo/dolphinsredskins/

Look at the 15th pic, the B. Lloyd picture and tell me how that ends up being a INT and not a freaking TD. That's pitiful.

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

hanging off of him like a gang of midgets on a grizzly bear while he still refused to go to ground!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 10, 2007 11:28 AM

I was unaware of that hunting method for Grizzlies.

Posted by: skinswest | September 10, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Ugh! I didn't realize it was that close.

Posted by: bigfish | September 10, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

The receiver got robbed, Jack. That pass was straight-sick in terms of accuracy by JC, and instead of a TD he gets blamed for an INT.

Expect lloyd to be third or fourth on the roster in game 2. ARE is almost as fast and doesn't quit on plays.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey, look at #25 in the link that Jack posted and tell me how Samuels' has two right elbows?

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 10, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Sween, here is a smaller version of the Jansen shabingus:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS01/109100066/1005/SPORTS

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 10, 2007 12:34 PM

Ugh! Could've done without that. I know you warned us but I couldn't help it. Like driving by a wreck on the highway - just gotta look.

Posted by: skinswest | September 10, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

did I mention how much I love Loseable Type?

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 10, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Lol, and midget hands.

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

beep beep!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe JLC doesn't want to show up because he was sooooo wrong about CP. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | September 10, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Jack,

I agree with you. There are a FEW cases that I have sensed a bit of truly negative slants on some things in Jason's writing. More tone than anything and just my opinion of course.

Most of the negativity is well deserved however and just telling it like it is. If all the personel people say that what the skins are doing is antiquated and stupid it's not up to Jason to find someone who paints a rosier picture that what is reality.

I think some people think that he is hired to write positive things about the skins. Those people should understand that that is anything but the case. Reporters take great pains to stay objective. Sometimes that objectivity can be overdone which I think has been the case with JLa from time to time.

That is of course just my opinion and I have never ever been able to dispute anything he puts in his articles. All his facts seem to be right on. Which is why people who say "Oh PFT scooped you on this and that" don't realize that the post and JLa hold themselves to a much higher standard in what they will put out there.

/end rant.

Posted by: Skinz | September 10, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

new post......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I have said time and time again thats Brandon Lloyd is GAR-BARAGE, trash, or to put it plainly a piece of crapola. I mean his lack of effort completly overshadows his natural ablity to make plays on the ball. The man is not a 'core redskin'. You look at this roster from top to bottom and you can say with confidence that this team is built on good character. I never understood with one season left on his contract when accquired, why given the fact he has never played a down with YOUR team, would you give him a multi year extension. They should've explained to him that they want to see his production and based on that then talk about a contact extension. I honestly believe that with the performance Randel El had yesterday and (large amount of receiving yds. coming on the hail mary attempt before the end of regulation) the availablity of some servicable veterns (Gabriel, Caldwell, maybe Mccardell or Broidford from the practice squad) can provide a spark at the slot position. I think the days of Brandon "Take that, take that, take that" Lloyd appeared to be numbered in Washington.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 10, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

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