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Plaxico Burress is active for the Giants - he'll be one to watch. Have to see how fit he is and if he lines up on Carlos a lot.

Rick DeMulling is up for the Skins despite just being here for one full practice. Smoot out again, as is Vernon Fox
Daniels is up but they only have 7 D Linemen up, Phillip is coming off injury and one of the reserves, Chris Wilson, is a situational third down guy. Bit of a gamble there.

Vernon Fox is out again. Obviously, Randy Thomas is, too. Reche Caldwell, Cody Boyd, Lorenzo Alexander and Ryan Boschetti are all out as well.


Oh yeah, and I still hate HP.

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 23, 2007; 3:38 PM ET
 
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What is with Smoot? Is he badly hurt? Does he know the defense?

Posted by: BobD | September 23, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Today's game must be BLloyd's last stand.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

FWIW - Taylor Jacobs of San Fran just scored a TD and moved ahead of BLloyd in the Futility category.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Why is Warner playing for Cards?

Is Smoot's injury a hammy?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

The real question is: are we ever going to see Cordy Body play for the Redskins?

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Favre ties Marino.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

JLaC: Buy a Brother Laser printer--- life is too short!!!

Posted by: bobbo | September 23, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Alrrriiight! Are we ready for some Redskin football?!

How did we do against the Ultimatim?

GO SKINS - Big Run Day & Eli bloody in the mouth. Lets' do this!

Lust for May Hens!

Posted by: The AMAZING Dik Shuttle | September 23, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Philly making a pretty emphatic statement. Told you the Lions sucked. They could resurrect Lombardi or Walsh, and they would STILL find ways to lose games.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Jasno! I can't say about brothers - but the cheap Epson color (R-200?) is awesome. Always works - always beautiful color.

If you're talkin' laser... I have Dells at the office & very happy.

GO SKINS!

Posted by: Dik | September 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, Loseable Type is dropping posts again.

Official reason given for Leinart being pulled - "ineffective play".

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Is Favre having an Elway final season? Looks like it might be.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

damn philly game has 7 minutes left still! They better switch it over by kickoff, or I might need a lil play by play.

Posted by: nah | September 23, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

He was pulled because he stinks.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Umm maybe they should fire Norv right now.

Sheesh!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

FIRE NORV TURNER!
(repeat 7,000 times)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat must be smiling - Miami has a lead.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, you rockin the Red Zone Channel?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

TM - Jets beat Miami 31-28

The Packers win. That game is gonna be a monster for us.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Jinx!

Sorry, Redcoat.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Viscount - nah I'm switching around from game to game and to the Game Mix channel.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Patriots have scored 38 points in each of their three games (vs. 14, 14 and 7).

And how about those Bills? Dockery must be steamrolling those defensive linemen he's facing.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Chiefs win! Chiefs win! Chiefs win!

Posted by: LOL | September 23, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Ravens win on a last-second field goal by Stover.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Brett Favre = Keith Richards of football

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Favre can be in the next "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

And now for the REAL game! WOOHOO!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

i love my hp printer!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh Duck - it's Joe Buck (and Troy Aikman)

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I could have lived without seeing these Redskins Throwup jerseys.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

For all our kvetching about the throwback uniforms, they actually look pretty good. Much, much, much, much better than the Eagles' throwbacks.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't trust printers. I use Trappist monks.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

red zone channel rocks!!!!!

NORV's GOTTA GO, NORV's GOTTA GO!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Brett Favre will probably see these throwback jerseys and then ask Dan Snyder for a 10-year contract.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Trappist monks are on the Eastern Shore, Cindy. Do they commute in daily for you?

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the unis would look better in sepia tones.

Got keep running. Got keep running.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Sheesh I just channeled J-La big time.

Gotta keep running.

Setting up the long ball . . .

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Let me say for the record: Joe Buck is an idiot. (The Skins are running left and he is saying that the right-side line injuries haven't affected them.)

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I hafta say, these throwback unis aren't that bad. I kinda like 'em! Esp. compared with Philly's.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

weaksauce!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Damn, Shazam - WTF was that?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Listen watching the the fat o-linemen play naked with just jockstraps and black socks would be better than the Philly unis.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they should keep these unis and change the name to the Yellowskins.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

SeanTay fell down?

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

have we ever won with throwbacks on?

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I see Springs. I seen him 3 times. Springs is there and starting and stuff.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Where is the D?

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | September 23, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

time for some "bend but don't break"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Beats me. I haven't had a single thought in my head since SF posted her idea. There are crickets in my head.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

crickets - LMGO!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

i hope that miss fg doesnt come back to bite us in the @$$!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't like the feel of this, defense way soft not hitting field goal has let down game written all over it.

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The black socks did it.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Time for a long pass to Moss.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Sure cause when I do backflips with my truck I certainly don't want my motorcycle falling out.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Cyn Cyty hope you can clear your head soon. But that's how bad the Philly unis are.

Okay d came up at the end there now O needs to get it going and get some points.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

first time we didnt score first...first time we gave up points on the opening drive...i dont like this either...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I think the Black Sox name is available for use in the NFL, Cindy.

Or maybe all black uniforms and then the name could be "D.C. Crickets".

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see the "X Games for Teachers" on ESPN12.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

JC not looking particularly sharp today.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Ugghh!

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

X Games for Teachers is already airing on The Ocho.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

geezzus...stretch the field maybe...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't "right now" be a good time for the D to get their first turnover of the year?

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Come on GRWilliams and guys play the dang game!!!!!

Posted by: D-Fense | September 23, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

3 and out...3 and out!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

WAY TO CALL IT TM!!!

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Okay, that'll work.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

TM YOU CALLED IT!

WOWOWOWOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

i take that back!!!

fumblia!!!

way to go AC!!!

way to go D...

pound it in!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

So, I ask you, London Fletcher or Antonio Pierce?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Hail To the REdskins!!!

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Sack, forced fumble, fumble recovery . . . touchdown.

Nice.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

or just pound it with cp!!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Have they even run to the right side all game?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

LFB all the way

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Ask and it shall be given!!!!

Posted by: D-Fense | September 23, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the Redskins!

That sinking feeling is headed in the other direction.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Hail to Eli's butter fingers!!!!
Let's make a stop guys

Posted by: ACARTER | September 23, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

nice shank by the punter

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

bout time we gotta stop...

gotta start stopping that ward guy...wtf!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Who's going to be inactive first: Brandon Lloyd or Tom Coughlin?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

The temp is dropping..... It is getting a little Cooley

Posted by: GoSkins!!! | September 23, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

try the right side...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

that play was awesome! Portis - what a block!!!!

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Was that CP! WOOOO!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

It's time for the Ladell Betts Show!

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

i guess thats one way to run right...

but get those guys (fabini and wade) moving forward!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

And THAT is why CP is my favorite current Redskin!

What a block! What a pickup!

What a MAN!

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

After the 1st quarter The Receiver is 0 for the year.

Posted by: RCaldwell | September 23, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

What a man.
What a man.
What a man.
What a mighty goooooood maaann!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

whats up with the game mix...theye only got 3 of the 5 late games up...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

For those who missed it, Taylor Jacobs caught a pass and scored a touchdown for San Fran today.

Taylor Jacobs - 1
Brandon Lloyd - 0

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Has the Receiver even been on the field? Except for running across it during warm ups?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

they just showed him on the bench talking to moss...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Big Al needs to save those tricky running plays with ARE for the second half when the defense is worn down. That was a waste of a possession because of 0 yards on 2nd down.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

No, but he can see it from where he sits.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Moss is telling BLloyd what it's like to catch a pass.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

horrible spot...throw the red flag...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

bad spot by the umpire

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

ok so their short...but that was a generous spot nonetheless...

need some points...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

and another shanked punt by the Giants

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

BTW Plexiglass felt the power of Area 51 on that drop.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Good stop guys.... now take a seat a let the offense go to work...

Posted by: GRWilliams | September 23, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I really do love that Pepsi commercial with Jerry Jones.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Okay it's not sexy or gamebreaking but Soups has done a good job on his reads in a couple of these plays.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey Santana....Did you get a copy of my CD?

Posted by: The Receiver | September 23, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Moss!

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable catch. WOW.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

No overthrow on that one BABBBEEE!!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I knew that play was in the scheme this half.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else feel dirty with pretty boy aikman announcing the game....WOOT Moss baby!

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Just reading a description of the 19th-century English essayist Walter Bagehot (yea, I know, when I multi-task I REALLY multi-task):

"a delicious writer, commanding a manly, outdoor style, a quiet but infectious sense of humor, and a sensibility that was at once large and admonitory"

Oddly enough, I was just going to describe Jasno in much the same terms. But that HP rant shook things up a bit.

Oh, yeah--great pass to Moss!

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

man...jc cant hit him when he is wide open but he can sure thread it in there when hes covered...

likewise santana cant catch those short ones when hes wide open but catches everthing in coverage...


stretch the field!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

time to run left

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I think you left something out: "a delicious writer, commanding a manly, outdoor style, a quiet but infectious sense of humor, and a sensibility that was at once large and admonitory and carrying a lust for mayhem."

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

COOOOOOOOOOLEY!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

And for that all I got is


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the redskins, Hail victory!!!!

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

cooooooooooooooooooooooooley!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I love this iPod commercial.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

fyi, skins have allowed three first-quarter points this season.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Cooley! Anyone doubt that was gonna be the call?

Soups has got magic in his touch on that ball.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

the singers voice in the ipod commercials is infecting my brain and spreading like an Oreo pizza mustache

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Enjoy your whole week off fellas!!!

Posted by: JGibbs | September 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Oddly enough, Diddy, that Oreo's Pizza ad doesn't use the word "cardboardy."

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

BTW Diddy - do you have your Oreo pizza yet?

Oh and great job by o-line protecting Soups on that drive.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

3 and out...3 and out!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I think we should all chip in and buy Antonio Pierce another airhorn for his next press cobference.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Ah shti! Effin Chevy commercials!

Glad they're finally starting to talk about Soups with some respect.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm ordering Oreo Pizza as a matter of superstition now. I also like pissing off the anonymous hater who apparently doesn't know how to scroll down and keep his/her mouth shut.

The artist in that iPod nano commercial is Feist (song is "1234"). Not a big fan, but I do love that commercial (I love all Apple commercials, as it turns out)...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, I also letf otu the creatiev speling

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Cooley looks like he was drinking before the game - or blogging his guts out last night

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

14-3, way to go offense.

btw,

Ipod Commercial

Posted by: hailbg | September 23, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

If they keep playing this Ward guy, I guarantee you he'll turn into a 'Skins Killer.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice eli is starting to do the song and dance more and more before the snap like Big Bro?

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

5:15 was me

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hailbg | September 23, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

D starting to stiffen up

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

You know what LSE best off season acquisition we've had in a long time.

And Dockery sure is "earning" his millions up there huh?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see how this defense fairs vs. Favre and Brady. It's like having a shiny new car, and you're just waiting for the break-in period to end before you air it out.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I just said the same thing about the Mannings. Only difference is that when Peyton does it, he knows what he's doing. With this guy, a turnover is coming out of the oven.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

getting off the field again...way to go boyz!!!!!

more points...more, More, MORE!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

No no no seantay just has a little crampy in his hammy.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know Sean Taylor could get hurt

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

just a bit early Sammy

Posted by: Mofass | September 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who loves thinking back to January 31, 1988 whenever I see #17 dropping back to pass?

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Frosty Lives! Frosty Lives!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey sfskin - who is LSE please?

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

TM - LSE = London School of Economics = London Fletcher Baker - we've only managed this as his nickname so far or at least one that's stuck.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Sanatana obviously did NOT tell little brother how things are supposed to be.

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, sfskin - forgot about that nickname for him. (I always think of him as LFB.)

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I vote incomplete. Didn't have control and ground popped it out.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

10 tccls for the boys in the booth...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Troy Aikmen is horrible...

INTERCEPTION!!! NICE!!!

Posted by: Principal SKINner | September 23, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

London! DEEEEEEE-fense! IMPRESSIVE!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

So I ask you, London Fletcher or Antonio Pierce?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Everything is going great!!! Even Saint Joe is making the correct overrule calls!!!! HHHOOOOORAYYYYYYYY

Posted by: GoSkins | September 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh darn - there goes another Jasno story line (no interceptions by Skins defense).

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

LBM - didn't your momma tell you that was a bad word.

YEAH!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I like this better than bend but don't break.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Definitely London Fletcher, TE.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

awe heoll yea!!!

i love the way shockey quit on the pay after the int...

looking around like...wanh!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Is Sean Taylor back? Or was he taken back for x-rays?

Posted by: Principal SKINner | September 23, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

How about Evans with the back peddaling?

Wow

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

This #97 guy is killing us today.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Sellers missed the block - damn.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Sellers missed the block

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | September 23, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

oh come on joe...go for the td settle for the fg...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

SHAZAM!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

It's Good! That would have been a 50+ yarder...

Posted by: Principal SKINner | September 23, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

SwissHam! Shazam!

I think I like Shazam! better. Has to have the exclamation point, though.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Solid half. Need to get some urgency I think in second half and keep pressure on.

Ward fellow is not helping us.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I think it needs two z's. Shazzam.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Dane Cook is a deuchebag.

SeanTay was back playing. He seems fine.
Springs had a good half.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Nice call on that play review earlier, sfskin.

That was a booth review, wasn't it? (As opposed to a Coach Joe red flag?)

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Holy cow, what's going on in Denver today???

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Nope, Shazam is one z.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazam

One of my all-time favorite comics. I think a movie just got greenlit.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy -

Maybe it is a karmic payback for that shabingus last week in Denver. (The very late timeout by Denver, negating the winning field goal by Oakland in overtime.)

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Great 1st half. And the Redskins got Bodiford back! Yay! They can still use more production of the receiver (not "The Receiver") position. I say give the kid a chance.

9/23 J. Geisinger, WAS, G Practice squad deletion
S. Bodiford, WAS, WR Practice squad addition

Posted by: Alan | September 23, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

IS Portis ok?

Posted by: Karalynn | September 23, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Denver's problem? They need to sit Cutler on the bench and put in RAAAAAMMMMMSSSEEEEY!!!
That's right, get Patrick Ramsey in there and let him sling the ol' pigskin!

Posted by: Alan | September 23, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Looks bad for Portis; MRI time

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Tale of two halves for Plexiglass here...Defense needs to tighten up.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Fox still hasn't reported on the Portis injury...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Once the news on Portis? He's out? Help need info!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Great drive by the Giants. The 'Skins need to answer with a drive of their own and give the D a chance to rest.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Beer bottles at the opera is a funny commercial.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Portis back in.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Portis is back.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Damn. 3 and out. Getting a wee bit nervous here...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

That was an ugly drive.

Posted by: Stumped | September 23, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm a bit sinking again . . .

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I may have to take up drinking while watching the Skins at this rate. Where's that bottle of cheap Lambrusco?

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

GET OFF THE FIELD D!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Shockey is eating Area 51 alive. God I hate that guy.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

It might be time to start blitzing Eli and make him beat it.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

SeanTay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Now THAT is the Eli Manning we know and love. Always good for one throw it up for grabs per game...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Good call TM. I was wondering why we aren't/weren't pressuring more.

Phew

BTW what does TM stand for?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

taylor needs to teach rodgers how to catch...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

G-men made great half-time adjustments. Using Shockey like Westbrook last week.

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE that Madden commercial :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO REAPER!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

They're just my initials, sfskin.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

The Visa ad with Louis Armstrong singing reminds me of this

http://www.leninade.com/

Surely this means capitalism has triumphed completely. Hugo Chavez may want to take note.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys! Two straight 3 and outs. If it weren't for Eli, we'd be out of it.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

grrrrr

I don't think my heart can take this.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"If you are a living, breathing human being you should probably not take this medicine."

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse


Teams changed uniforms at halftime....ugh, I hate this.

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

A stop would be nice here guys...

Posted by: Principal SKINner | September 23, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

time for a 3rd down stop for once eh!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Had to hit mute. I can't take it.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

bend don't break! keep the faith!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Defense needs to make a play before this gets out of hand. Eli is looking sudddenly confident - not a good sign.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Eeeeek, not liking the feeling of this game going into the fourth quarter. I'm wondering what was said to the Giants in their locker room at halftime.

Lets hope for a turnover here!

Posted by: swb | September 23, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

D is playing great imo....O needs to step it up. How come everyone else can spot 40 on these guys and we struggle to get 20?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse


If it wasn't for our turnovers, we'd be down right now by like 17-3 (assuming the Gints tie this up right here...)

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

'Skins Offense had 9 yards in the 3rd quarter.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

>>> "How come everyone else can spot 40 on these guys and we struggle to get 20?"

Pretty simple, IMHO. We have a QB making his 10th career start.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Watch 'em hit Shockey right here.....

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

How many starts has Romo had, Diddy?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

FUMBLERUSKIE!!!

Posted by: Principal SKINner | September 23, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Down by contact.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else notice Springs playing safety on that last play?

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Sorry P Diddy, but Romo has how many starts? Like 13? The offense just isn't hitting on all cylinders.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

We're not gonna win this challenge

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | September 23, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

F all the negative ninnies! There's plenty of "Joe Gibbs" football still to be played.

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

What?!? Has there always been the elbow rule? I know stupid question but really?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Yep, that'll be overturned.

The D can't seem to get off the field on 3rd downs in the second half. Can they make a stand here?

Posted by: swb | September 23, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Shti in a bucket!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

we had a nice 2 1/2 game run, anyway.....

Posted by: Montana'Skins fan | September 23, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

we can hold 'em

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

On the bright side, the Receiver should be well rested for his usual late game heroics.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Gah! Offense HAS to do something here.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

durn it

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

AARRRRGGHHHHHH

Posted by: Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Elbow has always been down.

Posted by: Smith | September 23, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Ok, the offense is well rested. I wanna see Portis and company ram it down their throats all the way down the field.

Posted by: swb | September 23, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Come on people. There's still 12 1/2 minutes of football to be played here and you're throwing the towel in? What kind of fans are you? Depicable!

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Smith. For some reason I thought it was elbow + contact to be down.

Okay time for some good juju.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

What is up with Betts?? Only 5 carries??

Posted by: Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"Despicable" I meant

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

3rd down efficiency 8-13 3-10

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Difference between Gibbs 1.0 and Gibbs 2.0....half-time adjustments.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

bigfish - I'm not throwing in the towel cause I'm too busy chewing on it and covering my face.

I'm holding on but nerves are not doing well.

YEAH ROCK!! SWEET RETURN!!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

It is elbow (or anything) plus contact. If he had tripped and no one had touched him, its a different story.

Posted by: Smith | September 23, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Contender or Pretender will be decided right here in game 3 at home....

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Our D has got to be tired

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | September 23, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Nice special teams. Go D.

Posted by: Smith | September 23, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

OK.. Defense NEEDS to show up here.

"You Shall Not Pass!"

Posted by: Principal SKINner | September 23, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

geez, sfskin, were you raised by a bunch sailors?

;-]

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

gotta get em 3 and out here pinned down like this...f'n eh!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Pressure, pressure, pressure LBM right here right now.....

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Time for another turnover by the Gints. Redskins know how to score with a short field.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

someone make a play

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

dcsween is starting and rooting for Derrick Ward. Just sayin'.

Posted by: SMACK | September 23, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

faaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Short. So short.

Posted by: Smith | September 23, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

D has nothing left in the tank...

Posted by: Montana'Skins fan | September 23, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

First down...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Eli's got one more INT in him, I can just feel it.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Pete I'm hoping the same thing

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

theres the shockey we know and luv...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

How many times are they going to run that seam route right between the safeties? Time to get out of Cover 2...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

3rd and long...someone make an f'n play and get off the field...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

God, please one game changing turnover!!!

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Go D Line!!!

Posted by: Principal SKINner | September 23, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Philip Daniels. GREAT play.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

'Skins with no first downs in the second half.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Ok I don't hate everybody!

COME ON EFFIN OFFENSE!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

finally

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Time for a catch by The Receiver.

Posted by: TM | September 23, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I sure am remembering the freakin missed field goal!!!!!

Posted by: Danny Smith | September 23, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

If Soups wants to be a big-time QB, this is time and this is the place....

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious, Pierce with the recovery.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

and it had to be Pierce

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay now I do hate everybody.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

d is gonna have to win this one...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Where is Portis's head today?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Unbe-freakin'lievable!! Only we could snatch defeat out of this...

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Whoever decided to make football games 60 minutes instead of a simple half-hour is an idiot.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Actually no! I am going to think postively!

GO SKINS! GO D!

We can do this! Plenty of time.

COME ON COME ON COME ON

Everybody up outta your seats!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I hope all you Shawn Springs lovers are watching. F him!

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Are we missing Randy Thomas yet?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Ah, hell.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Plenty of time.

Get a good return. Then Soups is going to throw a few we'll get it. We'll make it.

Hail to the Redskins!

Come on!

WOOOOO!!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

we have got to run the ball smartly - no gadget plays, just some smart running

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

They've morphed into last year's team on both sides of the ball. Good work, coaches.

Posted by: Karalynn | September 23, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

im dyin ova hea!!!!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

To fall behind to a terrible defense at home in a division game after a 14-3 halftime lead is just ridiculous!

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Time to score heap more. Or maybe just to tie it up.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

why havent we taken shots down field all day on this D...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Damn, and the Seahawks won. Grumble, grumble, grumble.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

take another shot downfield...

stretch them out...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

ARE, hello!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

get the excuses ready feags....try this site to come up with stats to show that the Giants are actually a good team(which they are not)http://www.giants.com/

you guys suck, the way to beat the Giants is by scoring 45 points which is something that joe gibb's pathetic conservative offense cannot do

HAHAHAHAHA

Watch the Cowboys stomp the Bears tonight if you want to see a legit Super Bowl team

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Getting away for JG football is not good.

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

have we ever won in throwback unis?

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Time for Cooley and Clinton.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 7:07 PM | Report abuse

These are more like the throw-up unis...

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, jason campbell will never play in my games. He is mediocre at best and 128 yards passing is an insult to my game. Don't worry, we have a permanent spot reserved for Tony Romo every year

Posted by: the pro bowl | September 23, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Punt this and play D.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Romo is just as inconsistent. Goes with the territory for a young QB.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

tuck rule

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Right now, they're right about Romo being better. Until we prove it, they're right. No point in arguing the obvious...

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious. Lane Kiffin is a fast learner :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Here's a little personalized message for you, HAHAHA: ESAD.

And we'll be watching Romo getting stuffed by the Bears.

Posted by: HeeHeeHee | September 23, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey Montana, shut up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Offensive play calling has been terrible this half. How do you keep your second best receiver in to block 1-on-1 v. Strahan? TEs have been killing the Giaints.

Posted by: LH | September 23, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I first watched the skins in 1982 when football reached the TV over here.

I have watched many skins games since then and can say that the 2nd half of tonights game has surpassed any other in complete ineptitude. Its so frustrating to see this garbage served up by your team.

Its clear they walked in at half time...thinking " job done".

And the reaction of Joe ( untouchable ) Gibbs, as his team plays awfully and without emotion or much effort, well impassive and emotionless is the most polite I can say.

God its utter crap and hardly worth the fact its gone midnight here,,, If thats the best they can offer well we are in trouble !!!!

Posted by: Ian :London UK | September 23, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Don't get so touchy.....

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Good. More field to work with.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | September 23, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

No, you will be watching Romo torch the Bears tonight...get it right

Posted by: Reality | September 23, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

What a finish!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to throw up.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I'll give that creidt, nice play by Randle El and Campbell

Posted by: Impressive | September 23, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

First mention of The Receiver :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

My heart is racing. Go skins

Posted by: Smith | September 23, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

51 seconds.
Soup has been amazing!

Posted by: Stumped | September 23, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

*holds sfskins hair back*

Here's the bucket. I already used it.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

F you, Mr Phony Reality

and F Your Cowgirls

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse


If I remember right, we beat you twice last year, and the Girls played only one week longer than us, and they fumbled away their season on a memorable night in Seattle. shoo fly!

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Redskins should have won this game in a blowout....you guys will never go far as long as you have gibbs calling this conservative BS gameplan...you guys had this game won and should have put it away in the 2nd quarter

Posted by: Reality | September 23, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Great finish.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

unbelieveable!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

sjk!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

That loss belongs to Joe Gibbs

Posted by: Reality | September 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: F Gibbs and his play calling | September 23, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

WTF!!!! If your going to run the ball wice on the 3 WHY WAS PORTIS NOT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Leevi | September 23, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it was a great finish

Posted by: Jerry Jones | September 23, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

bye bye survivor pick!!!!

f me!!!

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I knew I actually should have sat in ashes yesterday. . . .

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Reality is right on the nose with that one...What a crappy 2nd half.

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

typical Gibbs screw up!

Posted by: gad | September 23, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Weird Al calls the gameplan. And, I wouldn't call it conservative per se. They take big shots downfield quite a bit. Campbell hit 2 out of 3 of them today. As Campbell matures, they'll let him loose more.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I really thought we were gonna pull that out - oh well, it's done - let's move on.

Go Bears!

Posted by: mmok | September 23, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Good Good Al....

Take that playbook and rip out about 699 pages.

Posted by: Typical Al Saunders | September 23, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

what the hell is portis doing on the bench!!!!!

Posted by: nah | September 23, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

EXACTLY!!!!!

Posted by: JC | September 23, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

WHY WAS PORTIS NOT IN ON THE 3!!!! BETTS? WTF!!!!!!!!?????????

Posted by: Leevi | September 23, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

WHY WAS PORTIS NOT IN ON THE 3!!!! BETTS? WTF!!!!!!!!?????????

Posted by: Leevi | September 23, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for not putting 45 on me like the Cowboys did. They are legit, this team we beat today is a joke.

Posted by: Tom Couhlin | September 23, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

stupid a$$ playcalling, bad execution, full of mistakes. I am done. you guys deserve each other. this is all a bunch of over paid, spoiled, numbskulls that DONT KNOW HOW TO CLOSE ANYBODY OUT. THEY ALL DESERVE TO GO 2-14. I HOPE IT HAPPENS. GOOD RIDDANCE

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

bad coaching hurrying the 4th down. Total and absolute hysteria by the coaching staff.

Posted by: GAD | September 23, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Okay, the 'Skins went 2-0 against teams that are now 1-5.

They lost to an 0-2 team.

Pretenders.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Portis was probably hurt again ... no training camp remember?

Cooley should give half that check back he is the worst pass blocker. Strahan was eating him for lunch.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Go Bears, indeed!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: F Joe Gibbs | September 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

We have the worst clock management in the WORLD, not the NFL...

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Portis would have scored on both of those running plays...Betts gets off the ball too slow WHY WAS PORTIS ON THE BENCH?

Posted by: Leevi | September 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Jason rushed that last series. No reason to spike on first down (that already gave me a stomach ache).

On fourth down, no reason to rush to the line and rush to get the play off. Plenty of time and no play after it in any case.

Young quarterback.

Old fan. Aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

geez, anon. If you are gonna give up the season after one loss, that's pretty pathetic.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

0028am in London and Gibbs and his over priced offensive minds call rubbish at the 2 yard line.... Its simply not good enough !!!

It really doesnt even seem to matter to Joe, show some emotion just to prove you are still alive !!!

Posted by: Ian London UK | September 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Bad coaching all around...

4 plays to get 2 yards and Redskins get Stuffed....

Stop throwing to Sellers...he drop more passes than catch them.

Put Portis in the game...even if he did fumble earlier.

Fire Al Saunders.

Posted by: Bad Football | September 23, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

complete fing meltdown in the 2nd half. they don't run the ball all game and then give it to betts on the same ineffective play 2x in a row!!!! Wierd al needs to check himself!

Posted by: nah | September 23, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Okay here is the thing. We're 2-1 going into the bye which I think most of us thought we'd be.

This game showed everything that is right with us and absolutely everything that is still bad.

2nd half was nothing but complete shti on offense and while the defense did what it could it gave up way too many 3rd downs.

So I will say we are where I thought we'd be even though we're not where I'd hoped we'd be after first 2 games.

My silver lining - we have a bye week. That last drive showed what we can do and showed that unlike last year we were there until the very end. Not saying much in light of the steaming pile o'crap we laid the rest of the half but it's something.

We got it handed to us and that's probably a good thing cause now we have to keep playing the underdog and that's where we're at our best.

2 steps forward 1 step back - you know what I'll take it.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I know they didn't think Betts was as good as Portis!

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 23, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

You guys looked VERY impressive on offense and defense in the first half. Second half was classic gibbs 2.0(meaning conservative, losing football)

Campbell is legit, defense(esp fletcher, landry, springs and macintosh) is legit and CPortis is legit but was out of the game for some reason. That was tough, those losses come back to bite you in the ass later on

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 23, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

We knew the Gints would score points. They just played two teams prior that could score more.

This loss is on the O. Nevertheless, Campbell played like a champ; I love that kid.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

play-calling in the second half was atrocious this game. too many screen passes and too many trick plays called.

and our best back, BY FAR, not in on the go ahead plays.

the only thing else i can say is, carlos rogers needs to be benched. the guy is just not good.

in all fairness to the giants though, their offense dominated our defense, and exposed our not so good passing d. if plax hadn't dropped a few of those wide open passes in hte first half, they would've beaten us by 2 or 3 tds.

Posted by: JC | September 23, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

You can say what you want...But losing to the Giants ...who looked awful in their first two games and to have them at home comeback on us makes us look like a JOKE!

Posted by: Leevi | September 23, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

They ARE, who we THOUGHT they were!

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | September 23, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Bye Weeek is not a silver lining...it would be if you are 3-0

When you CHOKE because of Gibbs and Saunders, going into Bye week is sickening

Posted by: Bye Week | September 23, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

cant believe it....
first of all, no reason to spike the ball.
so automatically lose a down.
second down...pass?!?! gotta run.
3rd and 4th down...gotta freakin PASS ON BOTH DOWNS....goodness...so many bad play calls during that WHOLE DRIVE...no need to EVER spike when you have ONE MINUTE left on the clock. freakin ridiculous.

wow, this is so disappointing. i wish they woulda just thrown an INT so we wouldnt have had to witness such a BLEEP-ing debacle at the BLEEPING goalline.

Posted by: kman | September 23, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Gagged, sucked, chocked!
Our beloved team played scared in that entire second half!

Looked like scared boys in their eyes on the bench.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Portis caughed up the ball on two key plays (failing to make that catch on 3rd and 6 and then botching the hand off). Portis was EXACTLY where he needed to be at the end of the game--on the sideline.

Posted by: Icarus | September 23, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

We all know the Giants were not going to go 0-16.

Just look what the Iggles did today. This is the NFC East, guys. We are 2-1 into the bye.

HTTR!!!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

F Joe Gibbs, go F yourself. He can't go out and play the game, did he fumble, did he trip over his lead blocker? Get a life...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey Cowboys fans get the F out of here NOBODY cars what your opinion is...YOU GUYS HAVE NOT WON A PLAYOFFS GAME IN 11 or 12 Years and you act like your team just won the SB last year...Take your asses on ..with your over rated QB abd no defense team and worry about youyr own game tonight when the Bears put your Offense back to reality!

Posted by: Leevi | September 23, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Jason showed his youth; lost his poise.

Where was the OL?
Absolutely no push in the second half.
Giants were men, we were boys!
Agonizing to watch!
We are grossly over-rated!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

i guess they shoulda given it to cp and let him make up for is two bumbles...

seriously though...put some f'n receivers in the end zone...

i dont know why we spiked it with 50 seconds left...

coulda huddled and had plenty of time for 4 passing plays...

Posted by: deadskin | September 23, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they can practice plays to run when there are no timeouts.

Instead of spiking the ball on 1st & Goal at THE FREAKIN 2, why dosen't Campbell just QB SNEAK THE FREAKIN BALL. They were in Dime package. We could have gotten it.

Ok, I'm threw. Portis is now cheating the 'skins out of there $$$.....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 23, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

i agrees with letting al saunders go after this season.

i think the offensive game plan 2 seasons ago was just as good if not better than last year and this year. the difference then was no 2nd receiver and a QB who couldn't throw more than 20 yards and was afraid to get hit. campbell is is a perfect fit for gibbs-style play calling.

and yes, we are 2-1 which is good. but we had a real chance to be 30, and the fact that bad in-game play-calling and TERRIBLE clock management cost us that chance is disturbing.

it's one thing to get beaten cuz the other team has more talent. it's not a good sign when it happens cuz of better coaching, especially if that coaching is the most expensive in the league, and also managing your team. this is 2 weeks in a row bad in-game management under stress has happened. we lucked out against the eagles, but got what we deserved today.

Posted by: JC | September 23, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Dammit, twas a trap!

It's all good though-- we definitely have a solid team and some stuff to work on. Gints got a groove, we played like crap in the second half-- no excuses.

I agree, Betts on those last 2 rushes was a bad call. Why not Mikey? Or QB sneak it?

Where was Cooley the 2nd half??

Disappointing loss for sure, but I think we'll come off the bye week with guns blazing.

So, for tonight, I'm taking my Redskins hat off and put on my Bears one (shudder). Go Bears!? I guess?!??

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

F'it guys. Just a football game. We'll see hundreds more in our life time.

Posted by: God Damn It, but Still | September 23, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

passing from the two to Sellers at the one?
What good was that when he was totally covered?

Played like girls in 2nd half.
At one time it was 12-0 in first downs for the second half.
Man-handled, sickening.
We woosed out

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Jason showed his youth; lost his poise.

Where was the OL?
Absolutely no push in the second half.
Giants were men, we were boys!
Agonizing to watch!
We are grossly over-rated!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 07:37 PM


Redskin Ray, you call that last drive losing his poise? That kid had serious poise-- bad play calling at the end, but certainly no lack of poise. He stood tall and fired away.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I guess my point is this. There isn't much most of you are saying that I disagree with except the Gibbs hater.

And I know that right now we all feel like we have felt so often for the last 15 years.

But and maybe I'm being a pollyanna here, I think we are on the upswing. I think the Philly game showed what we are capable of and this game showed how far we still have to go.

I'm sure I'll do some piling on this week as well as I hash it out in my head and on replay etc. but after so many years of gut wrenching disappointment I'm gonna hold on and yes I am going to keep on drinking the Kool Aid.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Personally, given all of the mistakes, the revamped OL. The lack of blocking skills on the part of Cooley (and you ask why they kept "Cordy Body") Campbell really was impressive! Much more impressive than Eli Manning.

A loss at home to a divisional rival is A KILLER! Even at this point in the season.

Bottom line: Skins offense is and was a work in progress. They will need this bye to put the offense and especially the OL back together.

Bottom line: The defensive backfield played was mixed. When thye went to the reserves like Macklin they got beat even by an injured Burress. Rogers did not have a good game. Springs, Taylor had great games. Landry was mediocre. Linebacking played well except in coverage. Bltizes were ineffective. The only effective consistent pass rusher was Carter. Well worth it unlike Brandon Lloyd.

At this point Lloyd is taking up a spot that they could use to get another guard, another DL. The roster needs to absolutely to rid itself of that guy somehow.

In spite of the problems on offense, the penalties, the blown up plays ... in spite of all of that when the chips were down, when you need to get it done CAMPBELL CAME THROUGH. HE IS IMPRESSIVE. He might be the very best passer this O has had since Christian Adolph Jurgenson. No one but Sonny could do those sort of come-from-behind, 4th down heroics against intimidating odds and adversity. SOUPS IS THE REAL DEAL and we are so "SJK"ing lucky to have that guy on our team. You guys have no idea what we have here ... sheesh I hope I don't jinx him by saying it ... like a sudden injury. He is a great one in the making.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

And here comes Green Bay and New England in next 4 games.

At this point, Lions and Cardinals can beat the Redskins easily.

Another rough season...at least we felt good for 2 weeks this year.

Posted by: Depressed | September 23, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, sfskin. 3-0 might've gotten rid of the doomsayers, which motivate our boys.

I think we have a LOT of GOOD to work with. Throw in the coalesced O-Line and Caldwell after the bye week and I think we'll be 3-1 by the end of week 4.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Ladies,Ladies, Ladies
Only you idiots who drank way to much koolaide didnt dealize how Sucky the redskinettes are!

Posted by: PRETENDERS | September 23, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I go back further. I was reminded of Sonny throwing amazing pass after pass ... I wonder how much he has talked to Campbell? And back then the losing at times could be a lot worst. You have no idea how spoiled everyone became after Gibbs took over ...

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Jason made some good throws yes, TDAWG.
But he also gave aways two downs at the end; gave them away; you can't do that.
Good grief spike it from the 2?
Try to hit somebody in the zone you know, only five yards away?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Just finished walking in 38 circles outside my apartment, chain-smoking after the end of that. Guh.

I HATE to see Gibbs reduced to an ineffectual figurehead.

Allowing Al Saunders' stupid KC-style playcalling -- all game but especially at the end.

Failing to have enough control over HIS team to manage the clock better than a high school team.

Pathetic.

Thanks a lot, Cindy, after Weird Al I blame you. No way we lose . . .

Coach Gibbs. Institutional control. Learn it, love it.

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 23, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Jesus, what a bunch of fairweather fans!!

One loss and you're throwing in the towel??

Shame on you. HTTR, mothasuckas.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with having Portis on the sideline. Let him make up for his mistakes. He gives you the best chance to get the ball in the end zone. Does Portis trip over the legs of his own blockers, I dont think so. Having Portis sitting on the sideline with game and 2 to go was REDICULOUS!

Posted by: monkalicious | September 23, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

You can only dodge the, "I wet my pants and fín panic everytime the clock read 2 minutes or less" so long.

F the offense. They owe the D an appology. Don't hate on the D, they were exhausted that second half. '

Poor John from Herdon. Talk to you all friday.

Posted by: Skinz | September 23, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Campbell is going to be better than anyone realizes. He really is pretty amazing. Too bad his supporting cast didn't choke.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Was that 4 top 10 picks in secondary geting toasted by the worst offense in league?

Posted by: IMPRESSIVE | September 23, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

This was a coaching loss pure and simple. They have taken the ball out of Campbell's hands in every game this year. This one no different. Where were the downfield shots agains the worst defensive backfield in the NFL? Where was the over the middle stuff. I like Campbell and think he is the real deal, but no QB is going to win or lose a game with his hands in his pockets. Tired of this conservative crap. Plus, clock management was horrible again! When are the coaches going to practice that? Gibbs and Saunders get the blame. No doubt.

Posted by: Ticked off skins fan | September 23, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

All you people complaining about JC at the 1 yard line forget that he is responsible for getting them there in the first place!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray - I don't think we're grossly overrated by anyone but some of us coked up hamsters.

I will agree with the clock management and play calling in 2nd half. I mean WTF?

Two or three stupid gimick end arounds which never worked and haven't worked in how long?

I do wonder why we didn't give it to Sellars on that last drive at the goal line to run in straight down.

Oh well. And goes to show that never ever assume a division game in the NFC East is every easy.

*sigh*

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Top 2 offense in the league. Their D was worst in the league.

Don't hate the D. They held em off as long as they could. 3 3 and outs then a TO is the death of any D.

Posted by: Just Sayzin is all... | September 23, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps you are right TDAWG, maybe some are fair-weather fans....
But not me; I've been at this since Sonny, Lombardi and the 69 Skins.

I am upset because I am with this team every year regardless of their record.

I'll say it again:
14 point half time lead
At home
Played like scared girls in 2nd half
And yes, Jason lost his poise but I do believe he will learn from it, and come back,
But this OL was exposed folks, and that is fact not being a fair-weather fan.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Somebody should tell Taylor & Landry #17 has theyre JOCKSTRAPS? He took them on that TD he burned them on and the media is reporting both of them are still in the endzone looking for them! IDIOTS

Posted by: Safetys hit like girls OVERRATED | September 23, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

4 wide with Cambell on the QB sneak was a done deal at the 2.

The offense ruined the D. I have no compaints for the D. They were exhausted.


Al and Joe you better be apologizing right now...

Posted by: Da Truef | September 23, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

"Was that 4 top 10 picks in secondary geting toasted by the worst offense in league?"

Mostly Rogers and Macklin.

Now you see why I think they need to draft cornerbacks. If they lose Springs to injury or next year to free agency they are toast.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

It is all my fault! Altho, personally, I blame the unis. I do not understand how a team can play such wildly divergent halves.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

sigh.
well, win or lose, you can say one thing about the redskins... they are still painfully boring to watch. makes me i wish i was a browns fan. wake me when Joe is gone.

Posted by: bring back shar pourdanesh! | September 23, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Nothing scares the reaper except WINNING!

Posted by: DONT FEAR THE REAPER baby take my hand | September 23, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Cyndy, hahaha.

Are you going to call wins/losses again?

I love NFC East games. We went into the Link and won; the Gints came here and won.

They are all hard fought battles.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Reaper new nickname SLEEPER

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Fair Weather Fan??? FAIR WEATHER???

If you are still a Redskins fan after last 15 years, you are NOT a fair weather fan. We haven't had fair weather for that long.

Posted by: Fair Weather? | September 23, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm I'm talking Kool Aid and smack at the same time. That's how I know this season is different.

Last year I'dve just been talking smack and throwing Kool Aid at passers-by.

Soups is the real deal! Love him and love that he's on our team.

Hail!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Nothing scares the reaper except WINNING!

Posted by: DONT FEAR THE REAPER baby take my hand | September 23, 2007 07:50 PM

I wish you were in arms reach right now. Don't worry everyone he's getting ITA going forward.

Posted by: Da Truef | September 23, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

F bring back shar pourdanesh

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Our OL made the worst defense in the NFL look menacing in the second half!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Buy week ladies lets break the POST record all you COWARDS?

Posted by: 2 weeks of FUN for some and HELL 4 MOST | September 23, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Yes, fairweather, anon.

If you look at a 2-1 record as a wash for the season, you're a fairweather fan. Not to mention, a douche.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

"And yes, Jason lost his poise but I do believe he will learn from it, and come back,"

Did he throw an interception? Did he get intimidated by Strahan and the rush? Did he choke on that all important drive?

NO, he completed the key 4th down passes in spite of the hiccups and penalties the offense suffered. He would not be denied. It wasn't his call to run it the rest of the way. If the O-coach in the booth had called his number do you think he would have failed having gotten them that far?

He lost none of his poise. He looked like Sonny behind those patchwork lines and 15-30 points down. You must have a really poor memory "redskin ray".

Sigh I was hoping that somehow they could find a way to win this one but I knew it was going to be tough against the Giants. But now they have the bye. You watch, after the bye Gibbs will begin to put the game more and more on Campbell's arm and less on Portis running.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

No your offensive line which is overrated made everybody come back to reality!

Posted by: It only gets worse | September 23, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

The fair-weather fans are all of the folks living in DC, NVA, MD who have decided in the last ten years to jump ship and root for the Eagles and Steelers.
They don't have the guts to hang in there with us!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Look, the Giants are a pretty good team. They went 0-2 against teams that are now 5-0 (and possibly 6-0 after tonight).

Everyone take a deep breath and enjoy the Bears spank the Boys tonight.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

If I were a redskins fan, i would be vomiting all over my entire house listening to joe gibbs PATHETIC, LOSERish, excuse-laden speech right now on Comcast(channel 629) right now

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 23, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

"Rogers did not have a good game. Springs, Taylor had great games."

Were you watching the same game as I was? How many times did you see Springs get burnt or get a penalty called on him? Rogers had a great game. You never saw him get beat all night. Too bad I can't say the same for Springs. Reaper had a good game though but f Springs IMO!

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Losing to worst team makes the Redskinettes the worse team!

Posted by: More koolaide please! | September 23, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm assuming it is a no brainer that the throwbacks go on ebay right?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, cindy's right about those uni's. They have a lot of bad Karma. I didn't know that Lombardi designed them? Thought it was tasteless George Allen. Sonny suffered the achilles in that uniform. That is why the Skins did not win that first superbowl against Miami.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Man, the Giants just dominated along the lines of scrimmage in that second half.

Very discouraging.

I think there were some plays there for Campbell but he didn't have the time.

As we noted at the start of the season, this is a team (Skins) that has no margin of error. Could go 6-10 or could go 9-7.

Some young stud linemen would come in handy. Unfortunately, the picks that were needed to get them were traded away.

Posted by: SteveMG | September 23, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Reaper new nickname SLEEPER

Posted by: | September 23, 2007 07:51 PM


When you say that to his face come and talk to us. I bet you'd start crying before it even got out.

You are fraudgelent, i have no time for you.

Posted by: U R A P*ssy | September 23, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Reaper new nickname SLEEPER

Posted by: | September 23, 2007 07:51 PM


When you say that to his face come and talk to us. I bet you'd start crying before it even got out.

You are fraudgelent, i have no time for you.

Posted by: U R A P*ssy | September 23, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

"I think we have a LOT of GOOD to work with. Throw in the coalesced O-Line and Caldwell after the bye week and I think we'll be 3-1 by the end of week 4"

I'll ignore the "coalesced O-Line" but I was waiting for the RECHE call to come out!

Its like the "All the Wizards need to turn it around is more minutes 4 Juan Dixon!!!" call!

Posted by: angst | September 23, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

can we stop now with the:

1. stupid numbers count and work on anylsis and quality posts

2. the "we can beat the patriots" crud

3. the predicting scores

4. the looking at the schedule and preciting wins

5. reading the fairweather national press clippings

for all those that worried about trap games
i salute u...

pathetic

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Are you guys ready to listen to the lil danny interview on CSN right now? That would really cheer me up after a loss to hear about how much $$$ he makes

Posted by: speaking of vomit... | September 23, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

"Springs get burnt or get a penalty called on him? "

You must be blind. Springs got 1 penalty.

Rogers got burned on at least 4 big plays. Including a TD.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Sonny would not ....
would never have spiked the ball from the two; you don't waste a down from the two.

Jason did lose some poise, but he is not the chief reason we lost.
Our team played like girls in the second half, our OL never pushed them off of the ball in the second half, and that is why we lost.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

nice uniforms today

Posted by: ha | September 23, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA....your secondary is trash, especially the safeties

Posted by: Giants WRs | September 23, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Dear SteveMG (and all fairweather fans),
Please refer to this clip (courtesy of YouTube) that describes my feelings towards you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HURJNd0J4U

My feelings start when Al Pacino rants.

You company men.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor's new and permanent nickname is BUM

Posted by: Sean Taylor's new nickname.... | September 23, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Giants 7 or 9 3rd down conversions in 2nd half.

Clock management again hurt as well.
Why were we rushing like scared little children before we ran that 4th down play.
We did panic on those last 4 plays, no question.


Panic stricken, fear-ridden.
some veterans should have stepped up in the last 4 plays calming everyone.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

time to stop reading our own press clippings!

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

You must be blind. Springs got 1 penalty.

Rogers got burned on at least 4 big plays. Including a TD.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 07:58 PM

You've obviously got your "Springs can do no wrong" blinders on. He may have gotten one penalty but tell me how many times the Giants made a first down or a gamechanging play on him? If he would have played up to how much he gets paid then we would have never been in that situation at the end of the 4th. When it comes to corners they say "if you never hear about them or see them then they had a good game". Well I saw Springs and heard about him way more than Rogers tonight. Springs is the most over rated player on out team IMO.

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, cindy's right about those uni's. They have a lot of bad Karma. I didn't know that Lombardi designed them? Thought it was tasteless George Allen. Sonny suffered the achilles in that uniform. That is why the Skins did not win that first superbowl against Miami.
************************************

WRONG!!!!!!
Sonny tore his achilles in 72 in the helmet we still have today.
We only used the R helmets in 70-71

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

$200,000 bounty on my head

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | September 23, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

i know it's been said like 2,000 times already on this thread, but I won't feel right until I say it myself (after this loss, I won't feel right for 2 weeks...nice way to go into bye...) - THAT SPIKE WAS THE MOST IGNORANT, ABSURD, LOSING-ATTITUDE FOOTBALL PLAY I'VE SEEN IN A YEAR. THERE WAS 50 SECONDS, MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO RUN 4 SJK-ING MOTHER-SJK-ING PLAYS, EASILY. RUN, MAYBE SPIKE IT ON 2ND IF U DON'T GET IN, THEN RUN AGAIN TWICE. IF YOU DON'T GET IT, U LIVE WITH IT, BUT THAT WAS MISMANAGEMENT AT ITS FINEST. WE CAN'T HELP BUT LOVE GIBBS FOR WHAT HE'S DONE FOR THIS TEAM, BUT HE NEEDS TO GET HIS SJK TOGETHER.

sorry I yelled. I feel a little better.

Posted by: LMG | September 23, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

This was me... forgot to post name.


WRONG!!!!!!
Sonny tore his achilles in 72 in the helmet we still have today.
We only used the R helmets in 70-71

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

that had all the horrible halmarks of a horrendous loss.....

beaten at the line

blow a lead

win turnover battle, lose the game...

home loss

chance to take early season advantage...wasted

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Dudes, I'm out.

This is ridiculous.

F tha naysayers.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Thank you LMG
And I still contend Sonny would never have spiked it from the two.


had chance to be 2-0 in division
3-0 overall
and lose 14 point lead at home to a team that gave up 80 points in two games?

Al, and Joe, where has the offensive "brains" gone?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

al saunders lost that game with his 2nd half play calling

Posted by: oaolhgoa | September 23, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

We got some serious issues to address. Campbell is obivously a bit further away from being a top-flight QB, and Portis, God love him, simply cannot drop that handoff. God I need a drink.

HAIL, I'M OUT

Posted by: LMG | September 23, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

negative keys to game...

1. failure to make giants defend middle and long range pass.

2. failure to stay on or get off feild on first down

3. cp fumble

4. lack of size at wr or db

5. o line feeling injuries

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Let's go Bears!!

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Folks, don't panic. The 'Skins need to get to 6-5 or 5-6 and be healthy when they do it. 10-6 will get you in the NFC Playoffs, and 9-7 probably will as well. Patience.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

what a disgrace!!

Posted by: me | September 23, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

"Cooley should give half that check back he is the worst pass blocker. Strahan was eating him for lunch."

What the hell? This was mentioned a couple of times above. What offensive scheme has ANY TE trying to block Strahan? Hello!

We were simply out coached in the second half, which unfortunately is not uncommon anymore during Gibbs 2.0. Plus, it just seemed the Giants wanted it a little more than us. Losing this game at home with the halftime score what is was is inexcusable.

So, I think we just found out that making the playoffs is going to be a real struggle for this team. 3-0 is a much different outlook!

Posted by: Rob P | September 23, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

A naysayer?
Good grief, we are at home, up 14 to a division rival at the half, have the ball at the two first and goal and can't get it in?

How am I supposed to feel and respond?
"Oh, mercy me, what a pity, that the team wearing the R on the hats did not win, oh, well, never be frustrated, there is always a silver lining". ???

Soupy should have been playing more last year, and Coach Joe, I love him for the past, but our offense did NOT SHOW UP THAT SECOND HALF, but Jason should have been prepared better mentally for that goal line offense.
For starters something like this:
"Jason, I know we spike the ball all over the field, but not inside the ten. Inside the ten, we always take a shot!"


Bull!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Dear TDawg:
You need some counseling, my friend.

It's a football game/team.

Really, cut back on the kool-aid, even if it's only supplied by a sports team.

Wow.

Some sick puppy you are.

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 23, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Guys we are 2-1 not 1-2. Can you hold on to a little teeny weeny bit of joy and hope?

I do realize we are venting right now and that's what makes this blog so nice to have around. But we're still 2-1.

NOOOOO ET TU HEROES?!!????

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Despite of Archiebingus and the Receiver, the worst thing that happened to Redskin Nation is Weird Al. Trickery and gadget plays? He expected to win with trickery and gadget plays? Threatening on the goal line with the game on the line and you have Portis on the sideline WTF???

Oh and double move sucks!!!

Posted by: Stop | September 23, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

CP should have been in there at the end, even with the drop, which all starting backs do, and the untimely fumble. he would have gotten in bc he has more power than betts. betts played well.

Posted by: oaolhgoa | September 23, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

that spike was completely idiotic... call a quick play, rollout, see if anyone's open and if not throw it away... takes an extra 7 seconds...

Posted by: mikem | September 23, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Just remembered with my bad memory [TDAWG] that without two first half turnovers, our Offense would only have come up with 7 points all day.

How's that Offense going Coach Al?
You sure you are earning your $$$$

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

all you guys who are saying that the ball should've been spiked are missing the point!

who gives a f!!

they had three chances to punch it in! THREE!! you can't get the ball in from the 2 with the game on the line with 3 chances, you f deserve to lose!!

this sux

Posted by: hailbg | September 23, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I'VE NEVER BEEN SO FREAKIN' ANGRY AFTER A LOSS. CAMPBELL IS MORE REX GROSSMAN THAN CARSON PALMER!

Posted by: RANDO | September 23, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Who is running this team when they reached the goaline last week vs. Philly?
And who was tonight at the end at the goal line?

Biggest news may actually be,
Did anyone notice Santana Moss injured his groin at the close of the game,and could not move well?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

campbell's the man; that dude has the will to win. witness the two drive extending 4th down plays. but like the rest of the offense, there's a lot of jekyll and hyde in him.

looking forward to see improvement as the season goes on

Posted by: hailbg | September 23, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jasno,

They'reeeee Baaaack! As awful as last year, outplayed and more importantly out coached, BIG TIME.

Nice half-time ajustments!

Posted by: Redskinres | September 23, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Now, now Rando...
I'd rather have Jason Campbell than Rex Grossman.

And I think you would too...

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

they had three chances to punch it in! THREE!! you can't get the ball in from the 2 with the game on the line with 3 chances, you f deserve to lose!!

this sux

Posted by: hailbg | September 23, 2007 08:29 PM

Agreed. Three plays. They wasted one on a fancy Weird Al call and wasted two on Betts. I am not saying the Betts is horrible, but I won't make him decide a game when we have someone like Portis.

Offense grade: D
Defense grade: B- Double move grade: D
Coaching grade: F

Posted by: Stop | September 23, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

SMG,
A sick puppy? Perhaps I was a bit harsh on you at first, but no sir, I am no sick puppy.

I just think we're all being a bit too emotional now (which is understandable). But, sheesh, it's only week 3 and to hear folks decry we could go 6-10 seems a bit silly to me is all.

And, for your information, my kool-aid is delicious AND refreshing. Ohhhh yeahhh!

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

If Jack shows up with his commentary I'm going to kill myself.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

The first half was 2005; the second half was 2006.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Star Wars Family Guy in about 20.

See you there?

Lates.

Posted by: TDawg | September 23, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

up 14 at home, and one half away from 3-0 and 2-0 in the division.

I'm exhausted, I'm out
still visions of this goal-line offense or lack thereof...

I need a break mentally.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 23, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

it's becoming clear that the skins don't have the ability to finish teams off...

they couldn't do it in week1 and the result was a closer than required overtime win

they couldn't do it after being up by 2 TDs at the half. and they couldn't punch it in from the 2 with the game on the line and 3 legit chances to do it.

they got manhandled on the line of scrimmage in the second half. i wonder how
much of that is due to injuries (jansen and thomas and griff)

Posted by: hailbg | September 23, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

TDawg:
"I just think we're all being a bit too emotional now (which is understandable)."

We?

Look, the Giants outplayed them in the second half (for most of it). That's a fact. It happens in sports; which is why we enjoy watching it. You never know what will happen next.

We've all seen it hundreds of times on all levels. One team is dominating and then the other team gets a break and turns the table.

The Redskins are a potential playoff team. If the breaks go their way (and it hasn't so far with the two key injuries to the line), they could go 9-7. If not, they could go 6-10.

So, we lick our wounds, get back to work and hope they can adjust/learn from this game.

The fact that we're (or I am) disappointed doesn't mean we've abandoned them.

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 23, 2007 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Re: The unis: BAD BAD BAD LUCK! i missed the first posession because of the uniform. i thought i was watching the greenbay game so i switched and started wathcing CBS with James Brown. it took me 5 minutes to realize i was watching the wrong channel and the green bay unis was the skins unis.

Re: the playcalling. Memo to Al Saunders: Take your a$$ and $2.4 mil house that you bought and your best talented receiver AND RUNNING BACK (betts) out of this town! you BAMF!!!! F U!!!!!! YOU MOTHER FAARRRRRR!!!

And memo to the FERRRRRRR who thinks that betts is a better runner than portis. F YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

the sooner this staff realize who their best RB is the better. and it aint betts! MARCUS MASON WOULD DO BETTER!!!

and Portis aint a ibtch like brandon F-ing lloyd you BAMF SAUNDERS!!! STOP TREATING HIM LIKE A CHUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP TREATING PORTIS LIKE A CHUMP!!!!!!!

and spike on a 1st and a goal on a one yard line with 51 seconds to go? DUDE you lost 2 yards!!!!!!!! and a DOWN!!!!!!

good news: 2-1, still the beast of the east! F the girls! they're going down.

Posted by: dealer | September 23, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

All of the points you guys make were there when the team was 2 - 0. Do not give up on the after on lose.

HTTR!

Posted by: Skip in VA | September 23, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

LOL - alright for the fans whining and acting like this season is over..GET OVER IT. Go home and cry in your panties that you let get all in a wad. I'll take a loss as bad as this now than later in the year or even in the playoffs. Wait..PLAYOFFS? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? PLAYOFFS?

And don't listen to these Cowboy maggots. Anyone that takes time out of their day to come on another team's board to be ignorant speaks for their true character and how they have no life so leave it at that.

This was a tough one to swallow. Offense got out of sync in the 2nd half. I said it last week..this game was not going to be a cakewalk. I don't care how bad divisional teams may look. The Giants were going to be up for this game. They stepped it up and the Skins choked.

There was no excuse rushing down there late in the game. The spike was ridiculous. The coach in Campbell's helmet mic should've told him to call a play...and calm down they have time. However instead of throwing at Sellers..with the Giants "suspect D" I would've lined up..handed it to Sellers and been like stop me. Portis not being in that game was ridiculous as well. No offense to Betts but on 4th and goal..you don't trip..and why were we running east/west slightly rather than straight ahead. This one hurts and they have two weeks to think about this debacle.

If this doesn't motivate them enough to come out in 2 weeks and beat the living piss out of Detroit..then this team should fold it up. No excuse for the defense not being able to get off the field today either. They stepped up at times but the offense going 3 and out for God knows how long in the second half didn't help.

The blame goes all around in this one. Win as a team and lose as a team. But don't write this team off. They'll rebound. It's a lonnngggg season people. Blow your steam off without saying something so stupid and idiotic like some you have on here. Oh and to the fan Rando that said Campbell is more like Grossman....wake up and get a clue pal. I'll take a QB that hasn't sniffed a Super Bowl over one that has been to a Super Bowl any day when you compare those two.

Hail

Posted by: Jonathan | September 23, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

dealer - now there you are. : )

I'm with TDawq gonna keep on sipping the delicious and refreshing and sugar high giving Kool Aid. Despite my excitment of the last two weeks and my ugh of this week I still say we're gonna be in the 9-7/10-6 area.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Anyone see the Archibingus int on Romo? Looks like he's doing good for Da Bears...

Posted by: bigfihs | September 23, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Okay here is my question about the spike?

ANd here is where I ask you the experts to clarify (please be nice if you can).

Is it at all possible that the coaching staff in their panic, told Soups to spike the ball because they thought he was panicking and figured better the youngster spike it, calm him down and then go?

I'm not saying that is a good call or that it's a good read of Soups but might that have been their thinking?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Damn - Can't even spell my own name. DBMGO again.

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Injury updates:
Moss is expected to be re-evaluated Monday.
Griffin left the game briefly in the third quarter because of a bruised ankle. "It was nothing," Griffin said. "Just football."

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Giants did not win
Skins lost that game with bad play
Bye week to fix that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Here's the schedule for tomorrow; we'll get the sked for the week later:
Coach Gibbs will be available for his normally scheduled Monday press conference at 4:45 PM. There will be no open locker room. Players have a team meeting at 11 AM.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, JC got 'em there. ALL BY HIMSELF. he was threading those passes to get 'em to 1 yard line. it definitely wasn't the play calling (can we please stop with those reverses!!!!! THIS IS NFC EAST!!!)....give JC 3/4 chances to get you in the end zone. what is the worst that can happen? lose the game? you'd rather put the game in betts hands/legs? are you kidding me????????

and yes, JG panicked...the whole over the hill gang panicked. they(the offensive coaching staff) really need to start taking some valium and calm the heck down.

and the gints aint going nowhere! skins beat a good philly team. they scored like 100 points today.

this is an awesome team with a bad driver in al saunders.

Posted by: dealer | September 23, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, I saw Arch's int. Good for him. I think that Williams was too inflexible with the guy -- couldn't figure out how to get the most use out of Arch and then blamed Arch for it. Things have worked out better for both Arch and Williams this year.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins lost 2 critical pieces of the offense 2 weeks in a row. Now they have to bye to figure out what to do about it. The blocking schemes broke down in the 2nd half. They are not able to run the ball the way they should. Those last 2 plays underscored that. It may be that Fabini is not the way to go. We'll have to see what happens over the next 2 weeks.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

DeMulling, Fabini, Heyer, and Wade will be getting some looks and they will be trying different variations of those 3 I think.


Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

i thought the griff injury was a veteran injury to stop the bleeding( to take a breather). i don't know if you saw but he winked at the sidelines.

Posted by: dealer | September 23, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

dealer - I 100% agree about Soups and what he was doing in terms of moving the ball and poise and I think they should have given him the shot.
I was just wondering if in their panic they figured he couldn't handle it and might throw the INT.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey Cyn Cyty - is the team meeting players only? Cause I do remember in Gibbs 1.0 the players would get together without coaches and call for a gut check. Always liked that even if it didn't always work.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow it's a shootout between Cowpaddies and Bears except they're mostly shooting blanks.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

this is an awesome team with a bad driver in al saunders.

Posted by: dealer | September 23, 2007 09:11 PM

Dealer,

I'm not buying it. Too many dropped passes and stupid penalties. those are the "awesome team," not Al Saunders.

As to the play calling, I agree it was miserable, but I think Gibbs is responsible -- hiring Al Saunders and then asking him to use only half his plays. Saunders is probably hyper-frustrated. There will be significant coaching changes at the end of the year.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I think somebody (*cough*JLC*cough*) needs to find out who is actually calling the plays on offense for this team. For the life of me, I can not imagine that the 2nd half of this game was the dynamic Al Saunders offense. For that matter, I can't imagine that any game this year has featured the exclusive play calls of one Al Saunders.

If I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. In this case, I wouldn't care if I was proven wrong again. That offense in the 2nd half was a joke and whoever called it deserves a boatload of scrutiny.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | September 23, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it but I thought this was a trap game. One that we had in hand until we wemt conservative in the second half. I think Moss had a big gainer at the end of the first half, why not more of the same in the 2nd. We should kick teams while their down and f gamesmanship and beat them by 40 if we have to. They played like they had to and we played scared. I haven't given up on the season but my goodness we had a chance to go 3-0 into the bye, fix a few things and prepare for the lions. I'm just plain disappointed!!!! HTTR!!!! 4ever

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 23, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

plain and simple
out coached

Posted by: COskins | September 23, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

COskins: yeah by one who has been criticized by his own players for being a shoddy coach.

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 23, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Bye Gibbs...

We will finally have a decent coach next year.

Posted by: Bill Cowher Next Year Plz | September 23, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The worst thing about today's loss is that they'll never wear those great helmets ever again.

I remember a somewhat similar game back in '86 against the Chargers. The difference was Schroeder -- who wasn't much more experienced than Campbell at the time -- pretended to spike it at the goal line, and instead lofted an easy touchdown pass.

Those were the days!

Posted by: Jeff | September 23, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone blaming Campbell for this loss, with all respect, is clueless. He got us to the 2 (him and ARE) - it was the utter incompetence/panick/whatever of the coaching staff that lost that game. We had them consistently in 3rd and 5+ yards and didn't blitz. Eli picked the zone/cover 2 apart. He looked like Peyton, and that should never happen (even though he is better than I thought, I must admit). And then from the 2, there is just no need for a spike. I agree with whoever said roll him out on first, if nothing's there, throw it away. Of course hindsight is always 20-20, but I thought a fake spike/rollout or bootleg woulda been money. I really thought it was trickery when he was yelling "Spike"...I simply couldn't fathom the logic and was in denial I guess, even though we've seen all too many such poor decisions under Gibbs 2.0.

All the spitting and cursing aside, this season is just getting started. If someone had said we'd split the first 2 against Philly/NYG, most of us woulda taken it, no question. Now we need to take care of business against a banged up Lions team that apprently has a bad defense (then again, I thought NYG did too...), get back to basics, finish teams off when we have them by the throat. Gotta stay aggressive when we have a lead - keep blitzing, ballhawking, making plays. We've got the personnel to do so (Rocky, SeanTay, London, Carter, etc).

Carlos took a big step back today, but such is the life of a corner, I suppose....

Can we just fast forward 13.5 days please??

Posted by: LMG | September 23, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

No such thing as a trap game. When your offense gets 9 yards through the first 17 minutes of the 2nd half you are going to lose. That clock management at the end of the game was an embarrassment. Sad to say but we need someone leading this team who is aggressive and keeps a calm demeanor. We do not have that.

Posted by: cdubb | September 23, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Portis should be made to do a 1,000 up/downs! That mediocre joke of a running back dared to sit out pre-season because he was afraid he was going to get hurt? No, he was afraid that we would all see what we suspected - his best years are behind him. One first rounder and two second rounders? Is that what we gave up for CP and JC? That's working out well. Good job there Danny.

Posted by: Wyatt | September 23, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh... forgot... we also gave up an all world CB.... heck, we have enough of those anyways. Another season in the toilet. Maybe we can trade JC and a pair of first rounders to Carolina for David Carr?

Posted by: Wyatt | September 23, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Archibingus having a career day here against the Girls. Makes me wonder about double G.

Posted by: bigfish | September 23, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Anyone blaming the coaching for this loss didn't watch the game. How many times did the coaches spike the ball for a penalty? How many passes did the coaches drop? How many times did the coaches fumble the ball? When the offense can't make a first down until the fourth drive of the second half, it sure wasn't because they were running the wrong plays.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I think Fire Gibbs now is the motto.
Can you imagine if we had real coaching that knows how to hold a lead and finish? God we would be good

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Kid Campbell has some growing pains, making some of the easy throws in the second half would've pulled the game out. Folks like Portis do need to hold on to the ball when it's thrown anywhere near them. Carlos is no second corner -- what the heck was that whiff vs Plexico.

All in all, another traumatic loss. We'll see what they're made of.

Posted by: overhill | September 23, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

On a brighter note, Cowboys just botched a sure TD (nice hands, Crayton) and then Archuleta, aka Mr Big Play - ran back a blocked FG 50 yards. Of course he's a playmaking machine now that we dump him....

GO BEARS, SJK THE COWGIRLS

Posted by: LMG | September 23, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

It's the same Monday schedule as usual.

Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Stop Blaming Snyder for everything...This mess is all GIBBS

100% Gibbs fault...

Let's review...

(1) Best Corner back in NFL (Bailey) + Draft Pick for Portis - system running back of the Broncos

(2) Giving up draft pick for Brunell (who Jaguars would have releaed if they didn't trade for him)

(3) Signing Archuleta / Lloyd

(4) Bringing in Al Saunders and his useless 700 page of trash

(5) Letting good players go -- Walt Harris, Ryan Clark, Antonio Pierce....guys they could have locked up early for cheap if Gibbs had a clue

Posted by: Stop Blaming Snyder | September 23, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

When the offense can't make a first down until the fourth drive of the second half, it sure wasn't because they were running the wrong plays.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 09:35 PM

That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read. That points directly to the coaches and the play calling.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

TE - I hope you are kidding. There was no reason to spike any plays in that last series. Tons of time left. Obviously that Portis fumble was the dagger and not a coaching problem but there are issues there the same as at the end of the first half of the Monday nighter.

Posted by: cdubb | September 23, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Why do these games still surprise fans ? Strip the numbers off the jerseys and these games look the same for the past 15 years. This organization has bred a culture of losing. It does not matter which coach, which players, which venue - the end result has been the same. LOSING. Finding new ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This game could have been played under Norv Turner, Marty, Spurrier or Gibbs - same plays, same script, same result. The Giants are a dog and the Skins had every opportunity to beat them down and did not. But the players and coaches will gladly collect checks tomorrow for a farce. How many coaches really need to be reminded to play their best players when it counts ? Portis is one of the most physical backs in the NFL and he is watching the team lose on a goal-line stand they must have. Where was the vaunted 3rd down defense against a very pedestrian QB ? Rather than pass, why not run Portis, Betts, Carwright and Sellers at the Giants until they collapse ? Then look to open routes off play action ? Where are the angry and sullen players and where are the leaders on the sidelines ? I am a born and bred DC area native who has followed this team for decades. No more. I just turned down season tickets. I will not give Snyder and his organization the benefit of my hard earned dollars so that I can watch and feel this fiasco in person. Time to pack away the fan gear and watch SportsCenter. As they have famously said "Game over. Good night. Drive safely." We've seen this before over and over and over and over again. Insanity is doing the same thing expecting a different result. No more. So it's good night, season over, drive safely. I never thought I would see the day that the Skins are consistently outplayed and outcoached by the worst teams in the league. We have reached the level of the "Aints" and "Bungles."

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 23, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

cdubb, anonymous,

How many passes did the coaches drop? The ball was right in Portis's hands. It was right in Moss's hands. Those were the plays that were called and the players couldn't execute. Is it the coaches' fault when Portis drops the ball on the hand-off? What about the penalties on Rabach? Do you think Al Saunders is responsible for those?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Remind me, who owns the team - Gibbs or Danny Boy? To me, they are both clearly accountable for these mistakes.

If we beat Detroit, we'll be right back in the mix. Let's unite behind DA BEARS tonight and then get the positive vibes going again before the next game. I hear the need to vent, i did it myself, but today's game is over. There's no use crying over the spilled whiskey, which I did after that goal-line debacle.

Posted by: LMG | September 23, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Another pathetic display. I like the blind faith of Mr. 2-1 guy, but, c'mon. Another year of a pathetic display of football. 5 or 6 wins at best.

Posted by: Kpac | September 23, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Disgusted Fan,

Eli is not a pedestrian QB. (I agree with just about everything else.) He is mistake prone though.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 23, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

KPac, that is an absurd comment. If we didn't choke this game away, we'd be the talk of the town. Now we're a 5 win team?? There's a very fine line between wins and losses in the NFL if you're a competitive team; for bad teams, the line is less distinct. This was a disaster, no doubt. But to say that we are a pathetic team that will be lucky to win 6 games, that is not only defeatist and ultra-negative, it's downright ignorant.

Posted by: LMG | September 23, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

TE - fumbles and penalties aside, come on man. They were acting in a state of panic on the field when it was not needed down on the goal line in the last series. That is filtering down from the coaching staff.

Posted by: cdubb | September 23, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

There's no use crying over the spilled whiskey, which I did after that goal-line debacle.

Posted by: LMG | September 23, 2007 09:45 PM

hope you poured another. it was needed.

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Posted by: Come on People! | September 23, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Put the blame where it belongs | September 23, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

wow...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Wyatt, go ahead and blame Portis for this loss because Betts was 7 carries for 9 yards and no TDs.

The rest of you losers can continue to jump from the ledge. Yeah, the most disappointing loss of the season but also at this point the only loss. As far as you 'jumpers,' make a big splat when you hit the ground because you plain splat as fans.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 23, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

To the guy screaming that "Gibbs must go!"

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God Bless Joe Jackson Gibbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Barno | September 23, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse


Nice way to pay a dividend on your contract Ladell! How much was that loser paid again to get two chances to stick it in the endzone from the 1-yard line???

Sure glad we brought Smoot back! And Shawn Springs? Damn; never looked crisper. And how's about Carlos Rogers? Good to see he's over his problems from last year. Yup; that Gregg Williams is a genius all right. And what about our 700-page playbook genuis? On what page was spike the ball on 1st down at the one with plenty of time left? Was that page 547 or page 666? I think Joe must have been watching a NASCAR race from the sideline during the second half, 'cause it sure as hell wasn't the game the rest of us were seeing! Yes it's been a glorious return to the top of the NFC East under St. Joe and the Geritol Boys! What a pathetic bunch! And how much worse are we for putting up with this crap for 15 years now? My God, we're about as bad as Cub fans!!

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Disgustedfan is 100% correct. This new owner has bred a culture of losing.

Prediction - Gibbs out. Bill Cower in.

Posted by: Wyatt | September 23, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to see how many times the 'Skins ran right vs. left. I don't buy the whole "Wade is better than Jansen" thing, and I think we all agree that losing Randy Thomas really hurts. Being one dimensional in the running game is going to be tough.

Also, noticed that Cooley stayed in a lot to help out the right side of the line. Not being able to use Cooley as much in the passing game also really impacts teh team.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

You may has well all jump to end the pain right now. Meanwhile Romo is ripping the Bears defense apart. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Let's see how your boy Soup or shall I say stock does against Da Bears. LOOOOOOOSERS!!!!

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

You guys are simply nuts!!! This is one game! Personally, I expected us to lose.....rarely does a team lose 3 straight games and by that standard, the Giants were due for a win.

By the way, Portis was interviewed while walking off the field and he said he blames himself for the loss.

If we had scored on that last drive and tied the game, then went on to win, you all would still be saying "Playoffs" - no matter how ugly the win was. But because we lost, we are now doomed? That's crazy!

Posted by: Lisa | September 23, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

look the team is what we thought...its gonna be tense every week, there not great, they dont suck...stay scrappy and stay in the late season hunt...

this loss hurts like a root canal w/o novacane but still a lotta games, lotta football.

lets stay rational and drop the overt stupidity, regroup and lets bring intelligent, funny and insightful posts to the blog...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

"Mr." Snyder will never, ever, ever fire his idol and hero. It won't happen. St. Joe has also said that he will coach through his contract. Cowher has also said that he is out of football for two years until his daughter graduates. I predict Cowher will be the head coach of the 'Skins, but not next year, rather the year after.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Lisa and CL with some reason and sanity. Thanks.

It's a long season, and 9-7 could get you in the playoffs, 10-6 definitely will and could possibly get you the Division as well. Every single game is going to be a nailbiter because with the exception of the Colts and Patriots, there are no dominant teams in the NFL.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Yo tengo una pregunta. La misma pregunta que yo he preguntado mil veces. Yo quiero saber porque el Sexy Rexy todavia esta el quarterback de los Osos de Chicago? Porque?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Romo is indeed an impressive QB. He's young and inconsistent as well, but he's definitely a good one now, and a better one in the future.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

lets stay rational and drop the overt stupidity, regroup and lets bring intelligent, funny and insightful posts to the blog...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:13 PM

I couldn't agree more. However, there are an obvious group of 'fans' who were waiting for this to happen so that they could unleash their stupidity upon us. F them all (SJK)!

Posted by: bangkokben | September 23, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

I missed the beginning of this game...what's the deal with the whole Futbol Americano thing? NFL promotion of some kind?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"Every single game is going to be a nailbiter because with the exception of the Colts and Patriots, there are no dominant teams in the NFL."

Cowboys look pretty dominant right now AND they're in your division dumba$$.

Posted by: HAHAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, Porque la gerencia de Chicago no quiere gastar bastante dinero para obtener un verdadero quarterback. Quiere una ganga, como don Rex.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

cL - I figured posting in Spanish may make it at least sound witty and interesting.

BTW hear hear Lisa, Diddy, cL, dealer, TDawg, bangkokben and all the rest who are venting but seeing past the frustration. Lisa you said it right. If we ar 3-0 Mr.Get Rid of Gibbs (yeah I'm lookin at you Montana)would be silent and someone would be crowning us SB champs.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

It's just a bunch of kids using the computer before bedtime. Let it go and ITA. Cindy has been cleaning out those posts, but I figure she has her hands full with Jasno's grammar and spelling right now.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Ummm HAHAHA - careful not to sing before the fat lady. . .

TE - Tambien es una pregunta muy buena.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Don P Diddy, It's Spanish heritage month, mi amigo. Put down that Coors and crack open a Negra Modelo. Ole, caballero!

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 23, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

hopefully we let the offense loose when we play the lions. We have too many playmakers to be conservative. The season is noot lost, especially this early. I think the sane people here would agree and maybe a night to sleep on it will help. We could be the like the saints, one game away from the superbowl and now sitting 0-2. Can't wait till 10/7! HAIL!!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 23, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Mmmmm, Negra Modelo. After this week, I am never drinking again. Until at least Friday.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Told you I'd be back. You guys are the same mediocre team that no one was afraid of last year. You still suck. Your QB still sucks. Your D still sucks. Your coaches still suck. And overall your team still sucks. BTW - nice pick up with Landry - he sucks too just in case you don't look at the stats compared to who else you could have had. Bottom of the division again dumba$$es.

Posted by: Giants Rule Skinz Drool | September 23, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

well hello GRSD how nice to see u again!

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:28 PM | Report abuse

seriously, our team is 2-1. did you guys not watch the last minute of the game? they almost won. if the idiots hadn't called the spike and lost a down and a yard or two. the person who called the spike should be hung in effigy.

if say a younger person was running the offense...this is age people. this is what happens when you get old. you can't replace a young sharp mind with an older version of that sharp mind. they needed youth on that staff for these kinda situations. instead they went with weird freaking al!

Posted by: dealer | September 23, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the Skins or Cowboys were as "good" as they were the first two weeks, nor the Eagles or Giants as "bad". The division is totally up for grabs. I can see a scenario where all division matchups are split, no sweeps. This is a super tight division with four playoff potential teams that will look the part on certain Sundays and will sh*t the bed on others... Don't get too high after a win or too low after a loss.

Posted by: dcIggle | September 23, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Romo is getting fantastic pass protection today and he's eating the Bears' D alive.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

if you wanna crown romo, than crown em!

hahaha

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Ummm, okay, I'll make an exception for a good margarita.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

You see the way Romo is dissecting the Bears D apart tonight? Don't you wish your QB could perform like that?

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

the lesson for us coked up hamsters is enough with the predictions, the putting w's on games that havent been played, enough mid week chest thumping...

its a week to week league

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

There! I feel much better now. Once I purged all that out of my system, I can go back to being rational now. We've got two weeks to get our poop in a group and come back for a dogfight with the Lions.

We are making progress, but not nearly as fast as other teams in the league. We're about on par with the Raiders at the moment. Though I truly believe the game has passed St. Joe by, he's still our coach until the end of the season. There's lots of football left, and we still have an opportunity to make a big step forward, and it starts with Detroit.

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 23, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

dick*ead dallas fan. its 10-10.

Posted by: cdubb | September 23, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

ugh, c'mon bears!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

We can beat Detroit and GB and get right back on track. Today just really sucks. We should not have lost to the Giants at home after getting up to touches.

Posted by: cdubb | September 23, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

dick*ead dallas fan. its 10-10.

Posted by: cdubb | September 23, 2007 10:35 PM

17-10 now douchebag! Only about to get better. 3-0 Boys! 1st place. Keep crying Skins fans. Get used to it.

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Yea, smart guys, Archeleta is soo damn good, THATS WHY WE TRADED HIS SORRY ***. Get a life people, stop pouting because we lost, stop blaming people and move on.

Posted by: Chaggy | September 23, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Congrats on ur team HAHAHA. And you represent them with such class....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Yea, smart guys, Archeleta is soo damn good, THATS WHY WE TRADED HIS SORRY ***. Get a life people, stop pouting because we lost, stop blaming people and move on.

Posted by: Chaggy | September 23, 2007 10:39 PM

Yeah - same with Champ Bailey....dum a$$. Don't even get me started on free agents.

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Sad to say but it looks like Dallas is going to win this game. As Diddy said, Romo is getting great protection....and Marion Barber is a beast.

Posted by: Lisa | September 23, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

class or no class. A SB or division champioship is what you think it is. Go ahead and crown us!

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA is Wade Phillips cousin stricken with down syndrome.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

AY yi yi....

can we replay this day....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead and say it...Romo is better than Campbell and the Boys RB's and Receivers are better than the Skins. Not to mention the O-Line and others.

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA is Wade Phillips cousin stricken with down syndrome.

Posted by: | September 23, 2007 10:44 PM

Who cares as long as he's 3-0 and ahead of your deadbeat team. Any other retard comments from you?

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

At least Archibungis is being schooled again!!! ha hah hahah a

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Archibingus got schooled that last drive....gave up the big pass...missed the tackle on the TD run.

He sucks. I will take LL anyday.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 23, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

The Book of Jason


=============================

The Attack of the Giants

=============================


Perhaps the keening cries of errant eagles,
or the city's boisterous revels, borne aloft
with smoke of fatted sacrifice--
or just the north wind, bringing autumn's sharp scent
to fetid swamps along the coast:
one of these, wafting over the damp earth,
reached a field of hulking mounds,
mottled blue and gray like corpses,
that now began to stir.

Not earth but bodies! The starving giants of the bogs,
shaking cold mud from their stiff limbs,
rose up from the ground.

They staggered forth, turning southwards,
their trunklike legs lengthening to eager strides
as blood warmed, senses quickened, and eager noses smelt the air:
Meat!

Birds, grubs, even worms and spiders the giants ate;
they ravened squirming eels and squeaking mice.
But, above all, they gloried in human flesh.
The desolate region round them bore their scars: ruined towns
and gated roads upon which lonely travelers made haste.

And so the giants ventured far to feed their hunger.
Now south they sped, toward the marble city,
heedless in its celebrations.

But as in former days, old Joseph the far-sighted,
alone in his tower, discerned the gray figures
approaching the city.
"Take heed!" he cried, "Prepare to defend yourselves!
The giants approach--a formidable foe.
Swift and fierce, terrible in attack--we are in grave danger!"

The revelers stopped; some murmured among themselves.
A young herald learned in old scrolls proclaimed,
"We see no giants. And even so, are not these creatures
the stuff of children's tales?
Surely no true giants these, but a rabble of wild men,
with empty bellies and little fight.
There is naught to fear."

"I say truly, o ye stiff-necked ones," cried Joseph,
"These are like unto those giants
who have caused us so great pain in former days.
Forget not our sufferings in their swamp!
Forget not the terrible giant Elteh,
who in battle in this very city
did overwhelm our fiery captain,
Josephus the trumpet-voiced,
snapping his leg and tearing flesh from living bone!"

The people shuddered, but many shook their heads,
for looking north they saw no threat.
And so, while gaping folk climbed atop the city's walls,
Joseph gathered men, and set Jason to guard
the plain on which the giants must approach.

Now began the ground to shake, and birds flew up;
The merry people hushed in sudden fright:
The giants, following the scent of manflesh,
had found the city.

Now Jalac the bard climbed the tower, to see the city's defense.
He saw the slavering giants shake their war clubs;
he heard them snarl and roar, gnashing their teeth.
One giant, younger than the rest, led them all,
bearing a great bow as long as he was tall.
And last, behind the savage band, came a withered sprite,
with a pinched and hungry look upon his face--
their battle-mascot, or their pet, it seemed.

The giants, seeing Jason and his men, rushed forth,
smashing hobnailed boots upon the earth and waving war-clubs,
to fight upon the plain.

As when a mighty storm wave, towering up to heaven,
races toward a rocky coast, and smashes down upon it,
black water and white foam contending for mastery with grey rock,
so the storm of battle broke upon the city.

The city's men did draw first blood.
Not Jason but two common laborers,
a cartman and an arrow-maker,
together struck the leader of the giants a smiting blow,
that raised a cheer from the common folk:
"On you carter, you fletcher, for the city!"

Heartened, Jason led his men forward,
raining arrows upon the giants,
and driving them far from the city.
The dazed giants, wounded and desperate,
took refuge in a wood.

Now the people cheered, many shaking their heads
at the memory of Joseph's fevered warnings,
and smiling at the thought of new revels and new feasts.

Even Joseph, remembering his counsel of fear, grew abashed.
Had the people seen more truly?
Hesitating, he bid Jason and his men draw back, and press no more.

In this interlude the giants gathered for one more desperate assault.
Weakened by hunger and yet strengthened by it too,
they came forth out of the dark wood.
Now the youngest, the gentle-named
but fierce-fighting Elisha, led them onwards.
Firing his great bow, he rained ruin on Jason and his men.
At his side, piercing the warriors' defenses, raced two others,
whose name the warriors learned to fear:
Black Sikoh the storm-runner, and Shaki the thunder-giant.
And behind them all Jalac saw the wizened sprite,
no mascot but a true master of battle,
commanding the assault, probing weak points, gathering the giants' fury.

Now turned dame Fortune's wheel,
throwing down the city late raised skyward.
The warriors' blows missed or glanced aside, harmless.
Jason's bow, unstrung like a ruined zither, could not find its target.

The giants pressed on,
a moving wall that pushed the warriors back.
Yet still they fought.
Until, with a final thrust, the giants wrested a port-key
from its wearied keeper,
flung open the way,
and burst in upon the city.

Shrieks, wails, and lamentations
heralded the giants' bloody feast.
Now a company of desperate men rushed forth,
threw the gorged giants back, and closed the gate.

But the ancient heart's-grief had been felt anew,
and callow youths could now recite new horrors to match old tales.

While the sated giants tramped back northward,
the people knew that once again,
the giants had feasted on the blood and sinews of the city.

====================================

The entire Book of Jason--at least those chapters found thus far--may be found at http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/Farstriker%27s+Ballad+of+Jason

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I need to know why our $60 million RB was on the bench?

Posted by: calebt17 | September 23, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Good night losers. Sat hello to the first place division team. THE COWBOYS!

Posted by: HAHAHA | September 23, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout them COWBOYS!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

u jacka**, first place means nothing now, it's only 3 games. chillax and watch the rest of the season unfold

besides, it always helps to play the bears of grossman. you're always gonna get at least 10 free points

Posted by: hailbg | September 23, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Well done farstriker!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

The following is for a chuckle and for some of us a pause . . .

From the October issue of Vanity Fair - selections chosen by me.

"Know your SJKhole Footprint"

Regrettably, some Americans are simply not aware of how large an SJKhole footprint they leave on the planet. Here, Vanity Fair offers a questionnaire that will help such individuals determine the size and breadth of their footprint. If you answer "yes" to four or more of the questions for your age group, it is incumbent upon you to take urgent measures to reduce your SJKhole footprint.

[Selected questions from all age groups]
1. Do you refer to attractive members of the opposite sex as "smokin' hot"?
2. Do you leave vitriolic comments in the "Comments" sections of blogs and Web sites, even when you are commenting on something innocuous such as an old Linkin Park video? (or football game/team/fans?)
2a. When leaving such comments, do you use such rote Internet pejoratives as "aSJKhat," "deuchebag", and "+ard" (or homophobic double entendres)?
5. When you are being photogrpahed, do you flash gang signs?
1. Do you work in an office with a Foosball or Ping-Pong table?
1. Do you have money in a hedge fund?
6. Have you ever shelled out in the five figures to attend a rock n'roll "fantas camp"?

How to Reduce Your SJKhole Footrpint:
2. Stop gelling, mussing, and spiking your hair.
3. Refrain from ever using the construtction "Mmmmm, I want me some . . . ."
5. Do not leave any comments in any "Comments" section, on any occasion ever.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

farstriker - once again well done! Glad to know you are a true bard regardless of a W or an L.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

That's awesome sfskin.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Springs started, and played the whole game.

I was completely wrong, and I am the douche, not Williams.

I am so glad I was wrong -- I love Springs, and I hope he stays next year.

Posted by: Springs Played Very Little | September 23, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Makes me wonder what farstriker is going to come up with for the bye week...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Bears' D is not doing so well today, but you have to give kudos to the Cowboys. They certainly look good tonight. Romo is very, very impressive.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Well, you'll just have to wait for that, Diddy.

Thanks for the compliment, too.

(y gracias, sfskin)

Posted by: farstriker | September 23, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to take anything away from Cowpaddies cause they have looked very good in this second half.

But seriously at what point do you end the Sexy experiment? Michaels made the point that you have a lot invested in him and Griese isn't long term so then you have to start all over but sheesh.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Okay I promise that is the last time I ask about Grossman for at least ummm 3 weeks.

De nada fartriker. Tu eres un gran poeta.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

All I wanted was a win to celebrate my birthday. That denied, a pokes loss would have done the trick. Sadly, that appears to be a no go as well.

Oh well. Thanks to the "mature" gentlemen parked next to us in the green lot and their abundant supply of Patron and moonshine, the loss was easier to bear.

Posted by: JustMe | September 23, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Question numero uno.
Quien es mas macho?
Fernando Llamas?
O Ricardo Montalban?
Quien es mas macho?
Senor Llamas o Montalban?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Happy birthday, JustMe. A little tequila and illicit booze can do wonders for marking the passage of time, or even celebrating any day that ends in Y.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

estoy triste

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Rich Corinthian Leather.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey Happy Birthday JustMe. Sorry it was more gloomy than you wanted but hey a birfday is a brifday.

Holy moly poly how did Chicago make it to the SB?

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Alrighty, I'm calling it an early night. Thanks for BYGO today. Take a couple weeks off, rest up, get your typing fingers healthy, and let's gear up for the heart of the schedule.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 23, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

oof

Posted by: SMACK | September 23, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

My God, make Sexy Rexy stop. Someone just make him stop.

Posted by: JustMe | September 23, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Seriously! Come on!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

wow...depressing....rexy must go

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

This is like the SB all over again. I mean does he actually know how to play football? Actually really? Does he just practice on Madden?

Egad!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I have to say, having just watched the Redskins-Ginats game (deBACLE). I saw a quaerterback in over his head, receicers who catch catch a cold, an offensive line that was horrible, and...this is the hard part, a efense that consistently missed tackes, covered poorly, and got NO PRESSURE on Manning. The book on Manning, and I'm sure NFL coaches have watched enough filme, is that he is HORRIBLE under pressure. PRESS THE GODDNAMNED GUY!!!!. He will then make mistakes. Yes, you expspose yourself, but depsparate time (such as having NO ofeensive line) call for some reasonable risks. If the four first round draft picks that make up the Redskins secondary play anywhere CLOSE to their paycheck, the Gant should not have been in this game. Tey are a team that was in disarray, and onece again, got healthy only with playing th Redskins. When is my Team going to stop being the cure all to all the bad teams out there. Jason is a young kid who will have his problems from time to time: running for his life should not be one of them. The O-line was suspect the last two years, and Joe Bugel is supposed to be the guru in making the best of offensive linemen. I saw more dropped passes, missed tackes, and blown opportunities that I've seen in a long time. Randle El continues to be the one player on the team showing some actual passion and desire, though I think Jason is trying. For God;s sake, Joe Gibbs made Mark Rypien a superbowl quarterback, and we're not talking hall-of fame material here. AT one time , Gibbs knew how to get results out of average players, so START COACHING!!!!!

Posted by: Cameron Beatley | September 23, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

happy bday justme

night p diddy...

wow cowpukes next two games rams and bills...ugh

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 23, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the birthday wishes. It was still a good day. Any time I have a ready made excuse to eat and drink a little more than usual, it's a good day.

Posted by: JustMe | September 23, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Call TB and ask them for Jake the Snake. Or Sims. Anything has got to be better than this.

If I were on Chicago d I'd be putting a well placed banana peel in the path from Sexy's locker to the hot tub.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Well the good news is Heroes premieres tomorrow.
And then the Bionic Woman.

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Alrighty. Off to watch something happy and then nighty night.

Good BYGO today peeploggers!

Hail!

Posted by: sfskin | September 23, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

how do you spell NFC CHAMPIONS?

DALLAS COWBOYS

HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!

Posted by: JOE (wanna get out of DC) GIBB | September 23, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

chris larry
Your Redskinettes cant score 20 against worse D and your STOUT D cant hold worse O under 20 so you never had a chance against mighty COWBOYYS now BOW BIT**!!!

Posted by: KING ROMO | September 23, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

By the way, I'm, PISSED, and can't spell worth a damn when I'm typing this fast. Not scoring on the one yard line with a minute to go just is making me ill. Many of the palyers on offense came up BIG TIME on that last drive. To their credit, the receivers (OK, a dropped pass or four) made it happen, but the offensive line SUCKED. ABSOLUTELY SUCKED!!!. I'll say it again in case it did not sink in the o-line SUCKED BIIIIIGGGGGGGG TIME. Guys, you get paid to get in the way, and if you can't do that, go back to being bouncers at bars.

The running backs are supposed to be a strength. But Laddell, I could have FALLEN for two yards, and tripped for three (hell, I do it all the time, ask my wife), and you managed to TRIP OVER YOUR OWN LINEMAN. Where are you eyes? PLEASE....NO DAYS OFF UNTIL THE PLAYERS LEARN TO PLAY LIKE THEY ARE NOT IN PEE-WEE league. Joe, I don't want to hear any more about effort. This should have been an easy win, and once again, you blew it. Blame Jason, blame Ladell, blame the secondary, and the dropped passes (OK REALLY BLAME the offensive line), but this comes down to some coaching. You have no offensive line, so you have to compensate somehow. I get that, why dont you? This is not really all that hard to figure out. You had a team on the ropes, and you just gave them back their season.

Posted by: Cameron Beatley | September 23, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

hey king romo, i got 3 words for you:

1. The Hold
2. Wade Phillips
3. T F'in O

enjoy it while it lasts!

sadly i hate the giants more than i hate the helpless girls who can't win a playoff game even when it's handed to 'em.

Posted by: dealer | September 23, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

WAWAWA BABIES

Posted by: ROMO | September 23, 2007 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Tell Your 4 top 10 picks in secondary to have extra JOCKSTRAPS available

Posted by: TO | September 24, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

ROMO

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 12:06 AM | Report abuse

COWBOYS#1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

For all the postings which are pleading to show some hope, the point is being missed. If the loss today was out of the ordinary, then there can be some optimism for the season. However, this organization just continues the same trend season to season. They need an intervention of epic proportion. The Skins barely beat a horrible 0-3 Miami team at home and caught the Eagles on a bad night. The Eagles regrouped and opened a can against the Lions. Teams don't fear the Skins on the road or at home. The Giants have used them as a doormat for years. Now when the opportunity comes to return the favor the Skins are AWOL. Mentally and physically. Shameful. Despite losing today, Detroit - mind you, the Lions - racked up hundreds of yards of offense against the Eagles. The Skins used to beat the Lions without mercy adn owned them. Now, get ready for the Lions to torch the Skins - another loss. The Cardinals gave Baltimore all they could handle with a defense far better than the Skins. Chalk up another loss to a lesser team. And that;s not even considering the teams that are far better than the Skins at the moment - NE, Dallas, GB. Even teams like the Jets and Vikings will mount a challenge to the Skins not becuase of parity but because this team is afflicted with an underachieving mentality that has festered the last 15 years. Every season, the schedule is loaded with teams that the Skins should beat but they find ways to lose. Show me a season where this has not happened in the last 15 years. You can't. And despite the delusional thinking that things will be different, the evidence is right before you that things are just the same. THe columnists will just add a new date to a previous column and the press clippings from the team will be the same inane fodder that spews from an organization buried under the weight of futility.

Posted by: DiagustedFan | September 24, 2007 12:08 AM | Report abuse

jm220
its time ?

Posted by: TONY ROMO | September 24, 2007 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Jm220
Tonys right its time?

Posted by: Wade Philips | September 24, 2007 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Jm220
I agree its time?
Praise the Lord they fight theyre guts out!

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | September 24, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Can i please be traded ?
eveybody is going to see i SUCK.

Posted by: JC | September 24, 2007 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Come on Ladies lets break the Post record?

Posted by: Come out and play CRICKETS | September 24, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Campbell soup is a 1st rd bust like taylor,rogers,(jury out on landry)and multiple FA busts,to many so just say whole team!

Posted by: YO MAMA | September 24, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Suicide rate will hit all time high tonight in Redskinette land!

Posted by: KOOL-AIDE all gone | September 24, 2007 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Clearly, to overcome their own personal feelings of inadequacy, Dallas fans must associate themselves with a "winning" team. The typical Cowboy fan never even played high school football, never set foot in Dallas, knows little about the game itself, sucks at fantasy football, has an older brother or father that is a Redskins fan that they could not live up to so the only way to compete was to pick a glamour team that always gets the big name players.

I mean, ask yourself this, honestly, why are you a Dallas fan? It's not your local/home team. So why did you pick to align yourself with such a franchise? The answer is clear to everyone else, why can't you accept the reality?

Tough to be a Skins fan today, but if I was some pathetic Dallas fan that had to boost my self esteem by talking trash on a Redskins blog because my team that hasn't won a playoff game in over a decade finally looks decent, geez, I'd kill myself... That's what you should do, Dallas fans, you should kill yourselves.

Hate to serve as such a harsh reality check to you punks, but that's just how it is. Sorry if you have a hard time getting to sleep tonight as you try so hard to ignore the fact that being the type of typical Dallas fan that you are only proves how much of a sorry loser and failure you are.

And any continued pro-dallas/anti-skins posts only proves my point!

Posted by: Thank God I'm Not A Cowboys Fan! | September 24, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

And any continued pro-dallas/anti-skins posts only proves my point!

Posted by: Thank God I'm Not A Cowboys Fan! | September 24, 2007 12:20 AM


diggin the reverse psychology!

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 12:23 AM | Report abuse

i understand all the hatred towards this org. yes, it's dysfunctional. probably the most dysfunctional in the league. and Al Davis actually knows some football and has won. so i don't think the skins org is better than the raiders either.

BUT BUT. this is an awesome roster. and as a fan you can't throw that away. as for me i am hoping that a light goes in someone's head in this dysfunctional org. that Betts couldn't carry portis's jockstrap. that JC can handle pressure better than the 70 years old coaches on the sidelines and in that stupid booth.

and that if Brandon Lloyd isn't going to get on the field then please inactivate him for the games! please! coaches, the reason that play that you ran 2 times in the final series worked because PORTIS RAN IT THE FIRST TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

when you got portis, moss, cooley, JC, ARE how the fck do you not go to those players in crunch time????????? this is betts' 8th year!!!!!!! he aint that good!!!!!!!

why is it that everyone can see that but not that idiot werid al????????

gibbs really needs to do what brian billick did last year. FIRE THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 carries and 9 yards???????? are you friggin kidding me??????? F WEIRD AL!!!

so yeah, you can't keep hoping for next year. F that! future is now. 14-2!

HAILL!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Pretty happy tonight, not sure why I would want to kill myself as one of the posters suggested. The Cowboys have proven themselves to be the clear #1 team in the NFC and a legitimate contender to be a Super Bowl winning team.
We have the best QB in the NFC, the best WR in the NFL, the best offensive line in the NFC, the best TE in the NFL and a strong, loaded with talent, improving defense

Redskins are not even close and I love the ridiculously uneven(so far from close that it is offensive) comparisons such as Romo/Campbell, Owens/Moss, Witten/Cooley, Ware/Carter, Roy Williams/Taylor, Newman/Springs, Henry/Rogers, Adams/Samuels, James/Fletcher, Canty/Daniels, Spears/Montgomery, Spencer/Washington, Ratliff/Evans, Gurode/Rabach, Davis/Kendall, McBriar/Frost, Folk/Suisham, Barber/Betts,
Cowboys fans/redskins fans

Posted by: Dallas Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

the Cowboys are so much better at every one of the positions just compared

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Just got home... I'm so cheesed off right now.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

You guys suck, prepare yourselves for a season of losses and watching the Cowboys win

Posted by: Jerry Jones | September 24, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

how is that going to happen clown, you think the weakskins will go 3-0 vs the NFL's 2 best teams(NE and Dallas)?

No chance

Posted by: 14-2 | September 24, 2007 12:51 AM | Report abuse

to the clown who posted the novel of hatred/jealousy towards Cowboys fans, I am sitting in my $10,000 bed with my naked, fine-ass girlfiend in my $2,000,000 house, watching highlights of the Cowboys in their beautiful white uniforms dominate the defending NFC champs

Don't think I will kill myself now or ever. I will just book a room at the Phoenix Ritz Carlton and but my Super Bowl tickets now where I will watch the Cowboys play the Patriots(and probably lose)

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Holy SJK.... they rout the Bears. Everybody in the NFC East but the homeboy got some tonight. This officially sucks.

Did anybody notice how smug Pierce looked after the game? What a big SJKhole.

Good night guys.

Posted by: Stop. | September 24, 2007 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Tough afternoon. That second half was beyond painful...and this will be a difficult loss to chew on for two weeks. But everyone who felt it appropriate to hide behind a keyboard and assail those guys for a lack of effort should be ashamed of themselves. (at least the ones who do effort...Llyod is utterly ridiculous and fair game for any and all criticism).

The negative comments about JC are especially disgusting. We have been waiting since a Monday night in 1984 for a young QB with long-term, franchise-leading potential... and now that we have one whose talent is complemented by a humble, team-oriented, and civic-minded disposition that is all but extinct in professional sports, some of you actually feel justified in berating him in his 10th NFL start behind an offensive line that was cobbled together last week replacements at three positions? Seriously???

Oh, I get it...you must pining for the days of trying to develop low-ceiling guys like Schroeder and Ferrotte? Or maybe you are holding out for a retred that catches lightening in a bottle for a year like Rypien and Williams? Perhaps would you rather suffer through another franchise-crippling disaster like bonus-baby Heath?

You sound like Charger 'fans' out here whose radio broadcast team actually had the nerve to openly blame their loss today on P. Rivers who went 27/36 with 3 TDs and a franchise record for consecutive completions (and not on 98 straight screen passes like MB in Houston last year), when the game was lost on the inexplicable decision to NOT hand the ball to Tomlinson on a drive the Chargers started with 3 minutes left in the game and up by 4. (Same old Norv...and thankfully it appears the Curse of Shottenheimer has relocated to the left coast!)

We are better fans than that, folks.

Posted by: SoCal SkinsFan | September 24, 2007 1:11 AM | Report abuse

The negativity towards CP is only slightly less nauseating. There is not a player in the NFL that wants to win more than he does, and anyone whining about his effort is simply not paying attention. The guy essentially gave away a season last year making a tackle after an interception IN A PRESEASON GAME...and threw that same shoulder into a blitzing linebacker in the 1st half. The average lifespan of an NFL RB is what - 3 years? Show me another feature back that would chance re-injuring a separated shoulder (those who have had an injury like that know they are never 100% again) ON A BLOCK, which would drop his earning potential to nothing.

All the complaining is getting in the way of recognizing a team that is finally headed in the right direction after the futility of the Norv years and the well-intended but terrible personnel decisions of the Dan's initial attempts to buy a championship. The 'Skins are getting younger and hungrier and there are some tremendously inspirational stories like Betts and Cooley foregoing free-agency by signing below their market value and Montgomery, Heyer, and Wilson defying incredible odds not only to just make it into the league but more importantly to show the willingness to do whatever it takes to be productive - if not impact - players for a franchise long-overdue to shed a reputation for harboring veterans content to pick up a paycheck on their way off the NFL stage.

Vegas pegged the 'Skins' over/under for wins at 7.5 this year...and burgundy-colored glasses notwithstanding, that is probably spot-on. More importantly, it would be a marked improvement over the 2006 results - especially given that the 8 wins was predicted before the O-Line was ripped apart. And 8 wins was probably based at least partially on the notion that Lloyd would do more than protect a helmet from getting scratched all season and actually cause defenses to at least think twice about being satisfied with doubling Moss and putting a safety on Cooley, which frees them up to play just two CB's and keep 7 or 8 biggun's in the box...even on 3rd down. 8-8 with no legitimate #2 wideout and essentially 1 elite O-lineman would be remarkable...hell, 2-1 under those conditions qualifies as pretty darn respectable.

Would the 2006, 2004, 2003...et al teams be 2-1 at this point???

Posted by: SoCal SkinsFan | September 24, 2007 1:15 AM | Report abuse

SoCal skins fan that is a great post, i wish all redskins fans were as logical as you

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 1:19 AM | Report abuse

to the clown who posted the novel of hatred/jealousy towards Cowboys fans, I am sitting in my $10,000 bed with my naked, fine-ass girlfiend in my $2,000,000 house, watching highlights of the Cowboys in their beautiful white uniforms dominate the defending NFC champs

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 12:59 AM

Translation: I'm sitting in mom's condo on a twin XL mattress whilst masturbating to the teletubbies.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:29 AM | Report abuse

SoCal skinsfan
shut the FU** up you koolaide drinking moron. Are you that blinded or are you one of those kids who got your A** kicked every day at school so your use to the beat down? Because if my guess is right youve been predicting SB since 1991 and that my MORONIC friend is PATHETIC!

Posted by: Paperbag on head skinsfan | September 24, 2007 1:32 AM | Report abuse

SoCal Idiot skinsfan
you dont fool anyone posting as cowboyfan agreeing with you.

Posted by: Paperbag on head skinfan | September 24, 2007 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Cowboys have mullets. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wait a minute-- when was the last time the Cowboys won a playoff game?... when? What? The Skins did it in 2005?

That's hilarity.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:37 AM | Report abuse

The BOYS will have a great game against the skins, who are good this year. We might lose!

Posted by: COWBOYS RULE | September 24, 2007 1:38 AM | Report abuse

all right the crickets are eating on some redkinfan AS*

Posted by: Lights out Baby! hehehe post with ya tommorow hehehe | September 24, 2007 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh...I have gone and done it now. I was raised under the guidance of elders who were firm in their belief that there is absolutely no common ground to be shared with a Cowboy fan! The Universe is most definitely misaligned at the moment...

Hell of a game for you tonight -- as natious as I feel admitting it. Thankfully Ken Burns' "The War" started, so I could turn to something less gruesome to watch!

All will be right again with the NFL when both of our squads are back at the top where they belong. It is a long season, and my constitution prevents me from conceeding anything to anyone with a star on thier hats...but I'm thinking ESPN will have to stop the unabashed AFC bias in '08 when we join your boys in bringing legitimacy back to the best division in the league!

...but in the interim, don't sleep on the Skins doing to you in November what you did us back in '93. Wasn't that a November game, too???

Posted by: SoCal SkinsFan | September 24, 2007 1:40 AM | Report abuse

to the clown who posted the novel of hatred/jealousy towards Cowboys fans, I am sitting in my $10,000 bed with my naked, fine-ass girlfiend in my $2,000,000 house, watching highlights of the Cowboys in their beautiful white uniforms dominate the defending NFC champs

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 12:59 AM

Translation: I'm sitting in mom's condo on a twin XL mattress whilst masturbating to the teletubbies.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 01:29 AM


C'mon! I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:43 AM | Report abuse

My name is TDawg and I have a mullet and my sister is my wife (shhh)and my cat is my ho and I luv the skins cause they won 1 playoff game since 1991 and im SOOOOOOOO proud cause those boy fans havent won any in the same amount of time!! HAHAHAHAHAHA those dummmb cowboooy fans

Posted by: T Dawg | September 24, 2007 1:44 AM | Report abuse

AWESOME! I have been waiting for the day where I would be cool enough to have my identity hijacked. Thank you, T Dawg.

You probably should get back to your "fine ass, naked wife" whom you are abandoning to chide Redskins fans. Sounds to me like you don't have your priorities straight, or, your sexual orientation for that matter.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:46 AM | Report abuse

hey did the redskins get rings for that pathetic playoff win against tampa? Didn't think so which is why it means nothing and also proves what losers redskins fans are since they celebrate winning a wild card game as if it was Super Bowl I.

Keep celebrating that pathetic quasi-sucessful season, loser.

A nice fact: The Dallas Cowboys have lost more Super Bowls than the redskins have won(4 Cowboys losses to 3 redskins wins). And for the clowns that would try to manipulate this fact to the weakskins advantage, The Dallas Cowboys have also won 5 Super Bowls so don't try that argument

Posted by: responding to loser tdawg | September 24, 2007 1:46 AM | Report abuse

And, for your information, mullets are making a comeback... as is incest.

Your God, Troy Aikman, sported one.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:47 AM | Report abuse

Oh no, I'm a loser! God help me!!!

Sideboob.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:48 AM | Report abuse

SoCal skinsfan
shut the FU** up you koolaide drinking moron. Are you that blinded or are you one of those kids who got your A** kicked every day at school so your use to the beat down? Because if my guess is right youve been predicting SB since 1991 and that my MORONIC friend is PATHETIC!

Posted by: Paperbag on head skinsfan | September 24, 2007 01:32 AM

Um...what? Sounds like someone missed snack-time.

Posted by: SoCal SkinsFan | September 24, 2007 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Mullets??? I guess when you have nothing football related to brag about you have to dig deep for the "insulting" comments. Good one, enjoy your bye week, loser.

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 1:51 AM | Report abuse

I will, thanks.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Troy Aikman's haircut doesn't really matter, that was in the past, as winners I and the Dallas Cowboys have our eyes on the future.

Has anyone ever told you that 'remember when' is the lowest form of conversation?

Stop living in the past loser

Posted by: Cowboys fan | September 24, 2007 1:54 AM | Report abuse

You got it, buddy!

For a human, you're pretty sour.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 1:56 AM | Report abuse

At least we did not get clowned or run over as we have in the past by the Giants. The home team was in it the whole game. Sadly this team is not capable of protecting a 14 point lead at home because a codger is wishing he had a smash mouth team 12 deep with all pro linemen, when all the money is in the WR corps. His super star tight end is staying in to block defensive linemen that throw him around like a rag doll. The Ferrari running back gets tagged in the backfield all the time and can't be called in to run it from the two yard line when he has three rushing TD's on the year.

It is worrisome that the old, tired "take the air out of the ball" approach by Gibbs squandered the lead. Worrisome that stars are on the benhc AGAIN. Worrisome that three defensive trunovers don;t equal a win. His two straight rush play calls (Gibbs), missed field goal, and lots of penalties are also sort of a group of bad signs. Soups looked confused in the second half.

Can we throw away the reverse to Randle El play that stalls drives constantly? Can we make Rogers the Nickle? Can Reaper come up and help with Shockey? Seriosuly the Redskins got out-coached. They match up poorly against the tall powerful fast players on the Giants.

Bummer of a final outcome. Really man cuts to the core. Feels like a waste of turn-overs and waste of a sell-out crowd.

Posted by: DTC | September 24, 2007 1:57 AM | Report abuse

rogers=terrible
gibbs=terrible
snyder=terrible
portis=gay
taylor=s****y player

2007 redskins= 6-10 no playoffs

Have fun with Loser A: Bill Cowher
or,
Loser B: Jon Gruden
or,
Loser C/D: GregggggggggggggWilliams/Al Saunders

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Synder sucks donkey d***

Posted by: the TRUTH | September 24, 2007 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Hey, the Hall of Fame is pretty cool. I am very proud to be here although I know I deserve to be here

Art--too bad you will never reside here

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

Posted by: Michael Irvin | September 24, 2007 2:21 AM | Report abuse

where are all the "12-4 redskins, cowboys suck, campbell is better than Romo, etc" idiot crew

Speak up losers

Posted by: Wondering..... | September 24, 2007 2:27 AM | Report abuse

OK....slept on last nights performance... given it some thought and yep,

it's still the most inept I have seen the redskins offence in all the time I have followed them.

Play calling was beyond cautious. Execution was dire and 'the coach' looks catatonic.

Its an emotional game Joe, please show you have some life left please !!!!!.. It might enthuse the players, surprise the fans, improve performance and make a pleasant change for us going garrity at the game while you look like you have a huge choice between breathing or not.

I cant believe just how frustrating that game was.

Posted by: Ian: London UK | September 24, 2007 4:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm raging!!! How did those imposters that we watched all of last season manage to sneak back on to the field in the second half???? I know we were wearing throwback uniforms last last night but did we really have to go further than that and give a performance that was a throwback to last season? Decent first half performance - half-time lead, 3rd quarter collapse! We just didn't show up after half-time!! I was getting quite hopeful that we could maybe, somehow, get quite far this season in a weak NFC but now I'd be very surprised cos this team is still afflicted with the same problems that haunted it last season - i.e. poor coaching, sloppy play and terrible, terrible offensive play-calling.

Posted by: Gordon from Scotland | September 24, 2007 5:27 AM | Report abuse

Gordon
decent 1st half performace against worse team at home is why skins were overrated to begin with.

Posted by: Reality Bites | September 24, 2007 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Is it possible to feel worse today than yesterday. I am actually dreading Janso's "i told ya so" post and he will be right...

Randy thomas where have you gone????

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 24, 2007 7:56 AM | Report abuse

What a miserable Monday morning...

First off, before the season I said I would be happy with 2-1 at the bye... so here we are sitting at 2-1, so I can't be all that mad.

However, yesterday is going to be a tough one to stomach for a long, long time. I don't understand how you can completely dominate a first half only to come out of the tunnel for the 2nd half and implode... especially on a team led by Joe Gibbs, Mr. "Halftime Adjustments", which I hope is a nickname we can finally put to bed.

Again, 2-1 is where I hoped we'd be, but as many folks have already noted on here, I fear we finally saw the real Redskins yesterday...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 24, 2007 7:57 AM | Report abuse

That one went down pretty much how I was afraid it would. We went up big in the first half and figured we had it won. We thought the Gints would lay down in the 2nd half like Philly did last week. We came out flat as BOOFER's mom in the 2nd half and had our SJK's handed to us by a fired up team.

No excuses, just a lack of intensity.

Now to the positives. This could actually help us. We know now that we are not nearly as good as everyone says we are and we need to play our SJK's off to get the W each week. Whenever we get too big for our britches again Coach Joe can just break out the film of that POS second half.

Also, going in to the bye week, we now have 2 weeks to stew about this. Hopefully we'll see a fired up team come out and kick the SJK out of Detroit so we can get this bandwagon fired up again.

All is not lost. HAIL!

Posted by: etrod | September 24, 2007 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Me last week:

I could definitely see the 'Skins blowing this one. Every time a team loses, they become more desperate - and every time a team wins, they become less desperate. Factor in the division rivalry and media all picking the Skins, and you have a recipe for an upset."

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 01:07 PM

"These will be the best receivers the Redskins have faced yet. Despite the "Plexiglass" stuff, Plaxico has actually developed into a very dangerous receiver over the years. And Toomer is consistently good, especially against the 'Skins. I think the Redskins' secondary play will be the key to the game (along with the o-line, of course)."

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 02:11 PM

After this week's game, Gregg Williams said: "The Giants were the best team we've played so far at the skill position," Williams said. "And now we've got to get ready for a track meet possibility when Detroit comes in here in two weeks."

In this case, it sucks to be right. But I kinda saw this coming.

It's rare for teams to go 3-0 and just as rare for teams to go 0-3. The Giants went in down at halftime, and played like a team that knew its season was slipping away. They left it all on the field.

The Redskins accumulated some more injuries, and the defense got work out because the offense couldn't move the ball. They made way too many mistakes on offense to deserve to win that game, and had too many 3 and outs. You can't give a team with a passing game like the Giants that many chances to score.

And you have to give the ball to Portis with the game on the line, no matter what mistakes he's made before that.

Posted by: jcabana | September 24, 2007 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Just because I have to...

Dear Dan Snyder,

Thank you for those fabulous Bank of America magnets you handed out yesterday. What a great give away. I hope those 3 people who didn't already have bank accounts before yesterday go ahead and sign up with BOA. IDIOT!

Some Giants fans were telling me how they were given a calendar AND a magnetic schedule at their game last week.

But us? A magnetic marketing piece. This guy is the scum of the earth, folks.

Side/positive note: I was very impressed with the crowd yesterday. I still saw a bunch of empties, but it was the most impressive crowd I've seen at FedEx in recent memory... and very pro-Redskin. Cheers to all of the fans who brave that idiot Snyder's marketing machine of a game-day experience to support the team.

Oh, and another note: the PA announcer is a freaking idiot!!!!!! In the 1st quarter he actually screamed "FIRST DOWWWWWWWWN WASHINGTON" when it was about to be 3rd and 3.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 24, 2007 8:19 AM | Report abuse

That said, this loss is not the end of the world. If you look at all the successful NFL teams of the past few years, almost all of them had a game like this. The Eagles had some HORRIBLE performances last season, lost McNabb during one of them, and almost ended up in the NFC title game.

To those frustrated fans calling for firings, benchings and what not: I understand your frustration...but you're overreacting a bit. It's one game, and it's a long season.

For those people who wail bitterly about the state of the franchise and use every bad thing that happens to a team as an example: why the hell do you bother? I'm talking to you, DisgustedFan and Wyatt. For one thing, we've heard it all before. For another, every season is a new season -- and a new opportunity for teams to start over.

This was game 3. The team is 2-1. And you're talking about how 'the Redskins are doomed, and it's a culture of losing'? At 2-1? Are you f-ing kidding me?

Almost every successful NFL team has one or two games like this EVERY SEASON. If your faith in a given team is so shaken that you don't believe that every game and season (especially early) is a new opportunity, you should probably find something 'better' to do than be a sports fan.

Posted by: jcabana | September 24, 2007 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I blame myself for that game. Got up early to watch the team (3:10 am) as it was the feature game but missed the first four minutes as I had to watch the Eagles take a knee three times before they switched. Obviously the Eagles play better dressed hideously. Nonetheless when they did get arround to the 'skins game I see sack, dropped pass, an almost interception followed by the missed field goal. At this point I should have realized I was the jinx but I didn't and my full affects didn't take place until the 3rd quarter. F me for not turning it off and letting the 'skins win. Sorry folks. Good news they probablly won't be on TV here any more.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 8:33 AM | Report abuse

bangkokben--Cheer up. I watched the game, and I thought the loss had more to do with poor play by the Redskins -- probably everyone but ARE -- than a jinx by some poor schlub watching in the middle of the night on the other side of the world. How many passes did you drop? How many times did you fumble? How many tackles did you miss? How many penalties did you draw?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

etrod
No excuses? Positives? could actually help us? The only comment u made that is worse then these is the one about how flat boofers mom is? The fact uve been with BOOFERS mom says it all!

Posted by: etrod was with BOOFERS mom | September 24, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

jcabana
dump the koolaide out dude REDSKINS SUCK more then YOU and etrod!

Posted by: On your knees boys | September 24, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

HELRO WISHINGTIN,

sorrie for me spelly but I am retarded. i am also the most ovveratid playur in leegue historie.

Posted by: Sean Taylor | September 24, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

etrod--

Is that true? Were you with BOOFER's mom? Was that before or after BOOFER was with her? You're not BOOFER's dad, are you?

I'm betting you weren't really with her but you just saw those pictures of her that she's selling on eBay. Or, trying to sell.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 8:44 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluator
Time for you to go back to your night job of hooking in the gay bars!The Redskins sucking is somthing you like!

Posted by: Over here TE | September 24, 2007 8:46 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluator
boofer was with you after his mom and said you sang hail to redskins the whole time?

Posted by: Hail Victory | September 24, 2007 8:49 AM | Report abuse

bangkokben
bad news is you add your input on this blog

Posted by: knucklehead | September 24, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

knucklehead, It was all toungue in cheek. I hope the rest of the girls fans don't get their jailhouse tendancies all worked up over toungue in cheek.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse

DON'T FORGET TO SIGN UP FOR YOUR NEW CHECKING ACCOUNTS TODAY. AND PLEASE ALSO THANK YOUR HERO OWNER FOR HANDING OUT THOSE COOL MAGNETS YESTERDAY!

WANT TO CHECK OUT THE REDSKINS SCHEDULE ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR??? SORRY, LOOK ON REDSKINS.COM, WHERE THERE ARE MORE LINKS TO BOA!

BUT IF YOU WANT TO SIGN UP FOR A SAVING ACCOUNT, DON'T FORGET BANK OF AMERICA, THE OFFICIAL GIVE-AWAY MAGNET SPONSOR OF THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS.

Posted by: Bank of America | September 24, 2007 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Hey Dallas fans. Cows are for bulls not for boys. Didn't your mama teach you anything?

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Alright, taking the constant moron posts as a sign to do work today, usually I can ITA and all that but don't feel like dealing today.

F Cowboys

F cowboys fans

F the giants

F chris larrY

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 24, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

jm220,etrod,talent evaluator,chris larry,ricky bobby,TDawg,sfskin,dorf,farstriker,cindys boy toy,skinz,pdidy,nate,haikuman,cindy and the rest of you koolaide drinking every going to SB football morons, U KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hail to Dan Snyder & Saint Joe | September 24, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Sure are alot of new posters today?hmmmm or alot of usual COWARDS posting under different names?hehehe

Posted by: Blog patrol | September 24, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

bangkokben
Nobody here needs to know that u eat bulls kok in your country!

Posted by: hehehe | September 24, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

chris larry
be careful with the f word on this blog! or r u soliciting?

Posted by: how much CL | September 24, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

hehehe,

The difference is the animal is dead and the meat is grilled. Maybe you just didn't know the recipe. You may want to learn it so that bull stops stomping on you head.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Cowboys #1 in NFC

Posted by: Tony Romo | September 24, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Sure are alot of new posters today?hmmmm or alot of usual COWARDS posting under different names?hehehe

Posted by: Blog patrol | September 24, 2007 09:03 AM

This stuff is the equivalent of the spam that you get in your inbox. Inane jabber written by idiots who can't spell and don't have a life. You just delete it and move on.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Wow,

I really need to find a new place for my therapy sessions. This one just continues to get worse and worse.

I love all the Texas guys with their family stumps who show up when they have won exactly 1 more game than us.

That Dallas game and the Skins game reminds me of the fundamental truth of the NFL. More teams lose games than win them. The skins abandon what worked and lost. Chicago was the team that couldn't shoot straight last night.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys,

It's us... The freaking Funky 4! Do you miss us?

We were supposed to come back this year but Mr. Snyder said he would rather run commerical after commerical instead of getting FUNK-AAYYYYYY. We asked if we could get funk-aayyy at halftime, but he said the same exact thing, and even petitioned the league to extend halftime to 4 hours for more commerical time on the "Big Screen" at FEDEX Field.

But we still love him because he sent us a plasma TV to keep us from going to the media. BYE BYE

Posted by: The Funky Four | September 24, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

chris larry
dont look now but bangKOKben is looking at you.He thinks your a bulls KOK?

Posted by: RUN CL RUN | September 24, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Haha Redskins fans yu awl suck. I was telin my wife, who also hapens two bee my sistar thet you dagurm Redskens fans ar super dooper stoopid.

Posted by: How Bout' Dem Cowboys | September 24, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

sOOOOO witty! just keep changing your name and projecting your fantasies.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

skinz
abandoned what worked and lost?
SHUT OUT in 2nd half and couldnt run it in to Tie! Joe Gibbs smash mouth football is old and nothing has worked except your IMAGINATION.

Posted by: Dream Dream Dream | September 24, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Ben,

Don't get worked up. You are just getting them more excited. These guys haven't had this much fun since they punched a hole through wall into their sisters bedroom.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

ben--Responding to these guys is the same thing as answering spam. You get on their list and they send you more of it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Guys, please don't worry. We are all in this together. It's all of us, starting with me.

I'd also like to point out that I give no praise to Jason Campbell after a rough outing, but used to call Mark's 10-27, 83 yards, 2 INT performances heroic. Sometimes we'd even pray about it.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | September 24, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

New York and Dallas fans. Call us when you win a playoff game. Gibbs may be washed up but he won playoff games more recently than you suckas.

You are chooches. You should stop, you are embarassing yourselves.

Posted by: Da Truef | September 24, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

haehahe cowboy fins ye really suck i was telling my wife fred and he said you guys suck and i said oooo that sounds kinky!

Posted by: DIE HARD REDSKINMAN | September 24, 2007 9:20 AM | Report abuse

and the rest of you koolaide drinking every going to SB football morons, U KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!!!


...except how to spell Kool Aid.

D-bag.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Da truef
who won last SB between two but im sure wild card wins are more impressive you FUC**** IDIOT! I here your boyfriend calling so run along!

Posted by: WAWAWA | September 24, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

This makes me think we need to have a backup blog we go to on days like this. It's like the preset location for the president in the case of emergency.

Cause this moronathon these guys are putting on is interupting our group commiseration.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

When redskin fans post ANON on theyre own BLOG you know the fairys are many!

Posted by: WAWAWA | September 24, 2007 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Lol, success. Thanks you made my day. So easily baited. I enjoyed our playoff win this century.

Posted by: Da Truef | September 24, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

To jcabana:

There is NO EXCUSE for losing at home to a division rival which was ranked 28th in total defense and 0-2 coming into the game. This was a chance to bury a dog team in disarray. Yes, teams do have off games - case in point, Philly. But they rebound (just ask the Lions about how it feels this morning)and do not repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again. The Skins did not lose the game due to flukes or extenuating circumstances - they lost because that is their culture. Players, coaches, owner. Miami, another 0-3 club, took the team into overtime at home. And Philly slept throgh their game - classic trap game for them and Andy Reid righted that ship.

Ever notice how other teams manage to change successfully ? Pittsburgh replaces Cowher with a young and untested Dungy disciple in Mike Tomlin and the team thrives. Years ago the Eagles stopped the culture of losing and brought in Andy Reid, an obscure QB coach at GB. NO hired Sean Payton and despite their woes this season he has made substantial changes in bringing a culture of success and winning. The Niners hire Mike Nolan, a former Skins coach, and he is turning that team around. Marvin Lewis, another former Skins coach, has transformed the Bengals from a joke to a playoff contender.

Keep telling yourself that because the team is 2-1 that good things are happening. You are blind to what is unraveling in front of your eyes. You cannot rationalize it away despite your hurculean efforts. The same patterns of behavior are in place. With time, Jason Campbell will be an excellent QB. That is not the issue. The issues are much larger and infect the entire team. Heart, desire, motivation, courage, passion, execution, yearning for excellence and pride, "manning up." All lacking in addition to the foul game-planning and play-calling. You can't refute history and current facts with pining away for hope.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

skinz
whats wrong all that garbage you WEAK skiny fans put out is being shoved down your throat and when you try to insult you whine when you get insulted back?? What up with that Dudette?

Posted by: take it like a man Quit crying | September 24, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

to the last blogger, it's one game. yes, we should have won but its football and the other team wanted it more than we did. has nothing to do with culture. culture doesn't win games. effort days and ours stunk it up in the 2nd half. believe me, nobody's crowning the Gints' after that.

Posted by: Gregskins | September 24, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Datruef
your to stupid to realize it is you who is being baited! You couldnt ITA your dad in bed with you so why should this blog be surprising! IDIOT

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I completely agree Disgusted Fan. Yesterday I saw a team that folded when things didn't go their way. I really though things would be different this year. Oh well.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Calmer than you are. Calmer than you are.

Posted by: Walter | September 24, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Gregskin
you should have won and the other team WANTED IT MORE??
Comment speaks for itself!

Posted by: WOW | September 24, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Pretty negative up here...

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I completely agree Disgusted Fan. Yesterday I saw a team that folded when things didn't go their way. I really though things would be different this year. Oh well.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 09:32 AM

I saw some bad individual performances, not a team folding. I didn't see ARE fold. I didn't see Jason Campbell fold. I saw too many mistakes, by people who should play better, but this is not "a team folding." They didn't quit. They messed up.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Skinz
you saw a team that Sucks even with 4 top 10 picks in secondary and a QB who crumbles under pressure!

Posted by: open your eyes | September 24, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

ROMO

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Dallas beat the 'Fins (0-3), the Gints (1-2), and the Bears (1-2).

So, they are 3-0 against teams that are a combined 2-7 (or if you throw out the Dallas games, 2-4).

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm not even thinking about the Cowboys, GB or NE. What happens when this team can't be competitive with the Vikings, Jets, TB...? Down here is where the bills are paid for "up there" and customer satisfaction is sorely lacking.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell absolutely sucks and is just like Patric Ramsey, Strong arm and very little else to offer!

Posted by: QB coach | September 24, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

tissue boxes for everyone

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Pretty negative up here...

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 09:35 AM

It's all over the place. There's some negative voices. A lot of ninnies posting distractions. And some philosophers. It will take some time to sort it out, the blog to find a way to think about that strange second half yesterday.

Why knows? Maybe Jasno will post something as a "Redskins Insider" that will shed new light.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Good teams destroy the weaker teams. Dallas should be obliterating these teams and taking care of business. The Skins barely beat Miami (0-3), Philly (1-2) and lost to the Giants (1-2). Not very awe inspiring. The Skins should be doing to these teams what Dallas is doing to their opponents. Once upon a time the Skins did that. There's a reason the Post has a section permanently on re-living the glory years.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

TE,

We went 29 minutes in the second half without a first down. As soon as they scored we tightened up and got scared.

I'm not saying everyone quit but when you are the number 1 running O in the NFC against the worst D in the NFC you man up and smack people in the mouth.

That wasn't about schemes or anything else. That was about individuals getting beaten and not doing their jobs. There is no leader on that Offense, because were there he'd have stepped up yesterday and told everyone to line up and beat your man.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

It will all be a big mystery - nobody knows why it happened but everybody is accountable. In the real world, this would be laughable.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Skinz is right on with the comments regarding the running game. Line up and run CP, Betts, Rock and Sellers until they collapse. Dallas did that last night against a far superior defense than the Giants.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

disgusted--

I like Michael Wilbon's way of thinking about it. "First you win, and then you become good."

The 'Skins aren't good, and they're not accustomed to winning. This weekend, too many players took the second half off. We'll see how they come out after the bye. Maybe they can become winners, and then they can become good.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I have given this team absolute and total support for decades. This loss cuts to the core worse than any other. It was humiliating to watch that goal-line farce with the game on the line. At what point to you throw in the towel and move on ? This team promises change year after year and nothing happens. Like living with a spouse who has a chronic affliction that just eats away at you until you have nothing left.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

TE,

We went 29 minutes in the second half without a first down. As soon as they scored we tightened up and got scared.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 09:42 AM

How did we go three and out three times? I remember one drive that ended when CP dropped an easily catchable pass. Didn't one end on a fumble by Campbell (he fumbled twice)? Did one end on a fumble by Portis?

Are you saying they fumbled because they were frightened? I don't buy it. I think they just messed up because they were human. And they messed up at the worst possible times. This is not a team folding. And it's not fright. But, it's also not a good team. Good teams don't mess up that much when it's on the line.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

What is so shocking around here?
Redskins barely beat 2 BAD teams and lost to a REALLY BAD team at home.Anybody who is fooled from here on deserves all the insults other teams fans rain down on you!

Posted by: Redskinfanrealist | September 24, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

DigustedFan,

I can promise you this, sucka... HIGHER TICKET PRICES NEXT YEAR!!!!!

Money, money, money, monnnnaaaayyyy... HAHAHA, suckas!!!

Posted by: Daniel Snyder | September 24, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Disgusted Fan, quit with the whining. Life is about choices, there are 31 other teams you can follow. Go follow another team....

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 24, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Here's the stat of the game, and the most looming and alarming for the Redskins the rest of the season.

23 carries - 70 yards - 3 yards/carry
(not including Soup's scrambles).

Why is this alarming? Because it shows that the injuries to our O-line are going to force this team to find a new identity on the fly, as we no longer have a power running game to lean on. What does this team do with a healthy Samuels-Kendall-Rabach-Thomas-Jansen do with a 17-3 lead at home? They maul the snot out of the defense and grind out first downs controlling the clock? Not only that, but everyone now knows that the left side is the only side we will consistently run over b/c there is little confidence in the Wade-Fabinin combo, hence, the Giants are sitting there waiting for runs over the left on both goal-line plays.

The idea behind this offense all along was to run the ball, and then back-break teams with some deep passes from Campbell, trying to keep the pressure off of him for having to carry the load. 34 pass attempts and 3/yards per carry later; everything is changing for the worse.

Posted by: pfunk | September 24, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

How dare you all not give me tips during yesterday's game! Beers are $8, a great bargain. If you slide me a $10 spot the next time, and tell me to keep the change, we should be all good.

Posted by: Mr. Angry Beer Vendor in 215 | September 24, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Jason
has been trying to tell you the whole off season and you blasted him. I dought he posts anytime to soon?

Posted by: just a hunch | September 24, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

9:51 was me.

Disgusted,

You know, I've thought about switching to another team, but I can't think of one that I'd rather support. You support them because they're your team, not because they're winners. You support your wife because you love her, not because she's healthy, wealthy, and wise.

I guess, though, that maybe you think your wife is cheating on you? I don't. I think she's had a lot of bad luck. She may even be addicted to something. But, she's still my wife.

And, there's none out there I'd rather have -- certainly not the Patriots who are on top and show signs of staying there. Not the Ravens who are a pretty classy group. I just can't think of any. I've got a history with this one.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Greg from Boston, you go get another team you sick, disgusting homer! I hate when people pull the "then go follow another team" card.

Disgusted has valid points. He has suffered with this team for years and is allowed to voice his displeasure without being told to go find another team.

That is about as stupid as the clown city you live in.

Posted by: Disgusted fan | September 24, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Can we stop with the "why should I continue to follow this team" crap? I mean, honestly, if you don't want to follow them after a loss, then DON'T. Stop with the kvetching and whining. Stop with the rhetorical questions of "why should I follow this team". Go out and find another team to root for....

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 24, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Disgusted,

we don't need fans like you, good riddance. There have been plenty of worse losses than yesterday over the last 15 years...

Part of loving a team is sticking by them and not being a little biatch when times are hard...

I have NEVER switched off a team in my life!

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 24, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

All I can say is that I'm glad I was listening to the game rather than watching. My TV would have been smashed when I threw the beer bottle at it after that atrocious 4 downs at the 1 yard line fiasco.

Switching allegiance? Never! It is insulting to even suggest that.

HAIL!

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 24, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Giants had one big play ... Portis' fumble. The rest was the Skins' lack of concentration. On the Giants' drive after that fumble, the fans (plus man-to-man coverage on Burress, Toomer, and Shockey) held them to 3rd and 10. The play that set up the Droughns TD was a concentration lapse; they stayed on man coverage with Burress and Shockey, but no one stayed with Toomer, who made it 4th and 1.

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

DisgustedFan said:

"There is NO EXCUSE for losing at home to a division rival which was ranked 28th in total defense and 0-2 coming into the game. This was a chance to bury a dog team in disarray. Yes, teams do have off games - case in point, Philly. But they rebound (just ask the Lions about how it feels this morning)and do not repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again. The Skins did not lose the game due to flukes or extenuating circumstances - they lost because that is their cultureblahblahblahblah..."

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 09:27 AM "

No excuse? NO EXCUSE?? That's the problem with today's coked-up, short-attention-span culture. Offensive and defensive ranking mean NOTHING at this point in the season. Won-loss records don't mean a whole lot either. After 4 games, you might be able to say something. But usually not even then. I love how you claim to know how good and bad every team will end up after 3 games. "The Eagles are good, the Giants are bad, the Cowboys are..." Almost any team in the NFL could lose most of the rest of their games, and almost every team could win most of the rest regardless of how they are doing now.

Picture the scene, DisgustedFan: it's 2005. The Redskins just lost to the Chargers at home in overtime after being up two scores in the 4th. What did you do? Did you turn in your season tickets? Did you come on a message board and whine and try to convince everyone that the season was over? As the Redskins fell to 5-6 after a hot start, did you tell everyone that the "culture of losing" was too prevalent for them to ever win?

So then what did you do when the Redskins won the next 5 games and made the playoffs, won a playoff game (something the Cowboys haven't done in 7 years), and pushed the future NFC Champions to the limit? Were you still ranting about the Redskins and their "culture of losing?"

Nobody has to be a Redskins fan. And frankly, I wish people like you would stop pretending.

Posted by: jcabana | September 24, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Chris Larry,

Really? Name another loss in the last 15 years where we had 1st and goal at the 1 and failed to score? This was a painful, gut-wrenching loss. One of the worst I can remember over the last 15 years.

Greg from Boston, we'll stop with the "why do we keep following this team" if you stop the "go find another team". All fans aren't like you and you need to accept that. The way you cheer and root isn't better than everyone else.

Posted by: Disgusted fan | September 24, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Time to lock up Rocky McIntosh.

This guy is going to be a star. We need to lock him up now like the Eagles do it.

Posted by: LOCKUP MCINTOSH | September 24, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

CL - you stated "Part of loving a team is sticking by them and not being a little biatch when times are hard..."

Being a fan since 1968, I agree 100%.

However there is also "tough love". No one should/can watch something they love go down the tubes without doing ALL they can to stop it.

In my case, I have no hope (based in reality) that the Skins will be back to their glory years as long as Danny has control of the team.

F BofA !!!!!!!

Posted by: Wyatt | September 24, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

This loss rest firmly on the shoulders of Super Smart Fight His Guts Out Joe Gibbs!

Joe we love you but you need to get with the program. Betts running with the game on the line? Unreal! CP scores on either one of those plays!

You ultra super conservative approach in the second half was the reason we lost.

One of the worst secondaries in the league that has proven they can't cover a quality TE and we are running the ball.

As previous stated on this blog: "Attack you idiots!"

Posted by: Forrest | September 24, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

The Giants did not win -- the Skins lost. Jason Campbell just had an off day. Instead of anticipating where his receivers are going to break (esp. on the short and intermediate routes), he is STILL waiting for them to break, and then just throwing past them and faster (and these are straight line bullets). See Sellers incompletes (also probably Sellers will never get passed to again, which is a shame).

The Skins will never admit it, but Portis hurt his knee again near the end of the first half. [Though he screwed up too dropping the short pass in the right flat in the third quarter, which could have scored.] Santana is definitely nursing his right wrist. Another injury the Skins will not admit.

Springs & Rogers both had solid games. Refs calls were bad, but evenly distributed bad. [Springs had an interference on what would have been an endzone reception by Burress, but it was not called.] Fletcher provided is his typical outstanding performance. McIntosh, typically outstanding, was only good.

Worst statistic of the game: Shockey had the best single game by a Giants TE. Ever.

Also, the announcers never called the Giants punting correctly. It should have been "Coming into to punt it out of bounds, Jeff Feagles." Say what you will about Frost's consistency, but Feagles is just a bad punter. [Frost NAILED one for 58 yards and several hours of hang time.] Some nice KR yardage by Cartwright and the FIRST time ARE returns a punt running forward ... almost breaks for TD.

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

What we saw in the 2nd half yesterday was the result of a team that started to believe it's own hype. All week long all we heard was how bad the Giants are and how good the Skins are. The skins went up by 14 at the half and decided that was enough to win. They came out flat and got their SJK handed to them by an inspired team. The Giants were trying to save their season and the Skins couldn't match their intensity. After the Giants first drive and the Skins subsequent 3 and out, the momentum was all NY's. The skins didn't have the passion they needed to take it back.

What I learned about the Skins yesterday is that if they lose focus, they are not a good team. If they play with a fire, they'll win more than they lose.

Hopefully they learned the same lesson.

Posted by: etrod | September 24, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

What to me was the problem was some of the offensive playcalling, and the defensive playcalling.
We didn't get ARE the ball until the second half, LATE in the second half. We also need to establish a 3rd wideout, if that is Thrash, or Caldwell, I don't know, but we need that third WR.
Defensively, we let Eli pick us apart without getting good pressure on him.

I place the blame for this loss squarely on the shoulders of Saunders, and Williams. The playcalling on both sides was pretty poor.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 24, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

It's one thing to "voice your displeasure" in a rational way after a bad loss. It's quite another to say that the team sucks, will never be good, and that you're turning in your season tickets. And it's a whole new level of lame to vent your fair-weather fickleness in public.

Lots of people have suffered with this team for years, yet we can still manage to be REAL fans and enjoy the good times, while compartmentalizing the bad. So to the 'this-team-has-sucked-and-always-will-suck' phony fans, stop acting like you're the only ones who have ever bled burgundy and gold and get over yourselves.

Posted by: jcabana | September 24, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Dude Disgusted,

I am sure if we were all masochists we could spend the rest of the day brainstorming losses that hurt like hot coals to the taint....but lets not go down that road...but they are there...

Norv lost like yesterday every week!

How about not even being able to get off a game winning kick in the Tampa playoff game that sends us to NFC champ game....

See now I am in worse shape...

Banning myself...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 24, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

CL,

If it will make you feel better, at least Norv's ineptitude is San Diego's problem now.

Posted by: etrod | September 24, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Disgusted, figure it out dude. If you don't come on here whining, and asking if you should continue to follow this team, I don't tell you to find another team to root for. Get it? For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you don't WHINE, I don't tell you to get lost.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 24, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I like etrod's take....

Wyatt I hear ya bro

To me I am sick of James Thrash....he telegraphs the run on 3 wide out sets b/c they know he is in to block...dude is never open anymore...

Also Cooley is blocking to much now with O line hurt, might as well use cooley like colts use Dallas Clark...line him up in slot and bring in Yoder or sellers to play TE/block...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 24, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

Good analysis. I also think the D played well and the offense didn't do their part.

Posted by: Forrest | September 24, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I agree with etrod.

I think this goes beyond X's and O's. This was a combination of the Giants wanting it more, and the 'Skins gagging because they weren't as focused. I include the coaches in that assessment. Portis, a back who almost never fumbles, fumbled on an unforced error. Betts trips over a blocker on 4th down. Rabach commits two penalties in a row. Portis wasn't in at the end. Even last season, these events were not typical.

This just in: Andy Reid and the Eagles (a team that some posters here seem to slurp a great deal) has notorious clock-management issues that Eagles fans have been complaining about for years. I don't know why Gibbs and others have such a problem with this. At least Gibbs has the age excuse - but it still frightens me.

Posted by: jcabana | September 24, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

To the post regarding find another team...

When I was seven I seen my first super bowl played. I didn't know the theme of the game, the objective but something intrigued about this sport with people knocking the crap out of each other. Although my favorite color was blue, everyone in my house was cheering for the team with the ugly uniforms with this black guy on the helments. At the end of the night the city was on a emotional high, everyone was toasting to a super bowl winning team. A few things I found out later on: The sport I was watching was football, The game was between the Buffalo Bills and Washington Redskins, The Redskins were the world champions, and the logo on the helments is a native american. I also began to expect one thing out of this team every year, to go to the super bowl every year. Well as time went on and the skins got worse and worse (see 94's 3-13) a harsh reminder came to me: This is a bad team. All my friends were either 49er or Cowboys fans. Since liking Dallas in my home growing up was like a sin, In 1994 I decided to cheer for the 49ers. I had hoped on the bandwagon at the perfect time too, the 49ers went 13-3 that season and went on to win the super bowl with in my opinion the best roster, EVER. Still living in the DC area the Redskins, even when horrible are forced on you. I think it is the love for this franchise in this region that keeps them on life support in week 12, when for the greater part of the last 12-14 years it would be fully understandable if fans were to pull the plug. I can't and probably never will understand that. Every year the Redskins have numerous games where they are hanging around in the end and come up short or just get flat out aired out. Its extremely difficult to cheer for a team when year in and year out they seem to break your heart. This loss although not as monumental, reminds me of the home opener in 1999 or 98', when the Skins had a 35-14 lead on Dallas going into the 4th quarter and loose in overtime. It is losses like this that make you (if you're a true fan) shed a tear. Not beacuse you feel the pain of the players on the field, but more of the emotional roller coaster the team takes you on in the process of tanking the game. For years I have tried rooting for the 49ers, Dolphins, and Packers, but none of these teams gave me the joy that the Redskins did watching them go out and win, especially if they were thought to be an inferior opponent. The reason why I or any fan cheers for this team despite 3-13 campaigns, is because of that emotional tie you have. Maybe its terrorital, maybe like me it was a team from one of your earliest memories, or it was the team a departed loved, whatever your reason you have a right to cheer for them when they are successful and to bash them when they are stinkin' the place up. Its all a part of being a fan.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 24, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Two cents.

Plaxico starting catching passes on third down. This has been open all year (three games) for every receiver we've faced, but the fear factor was working up till the 3rd quarter. Then Al gets cute with the play calling.

BTW, Betts should be a 1st down back. This is not a compliment. He gets four or five yards on first down but on third down can't get back to the line, he can't block in pass protection so everyone knows he's going on a route.

The first two series in the second half were ridiculous. An end around? If you're going to go three an out, take three chances down field. Even with Moss' groin no one could cover him. JC's bound to hit him one out of three. I would have hated to see it but ...

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"I'm not the offensive coordinator; I just play, I don't think I'm Superman, but I'm very confident that I can churn out the hard yards. I guess I've got to keep begging a little more."

Posted by: Mike Sellers | September 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Another thought, JC and Portis did not look like they trusted the line. Campbell looked as if he was in a recliner he was leaning so far back on his drops. Portis was looking downfield when he should have been looking at the ball.

First half highlight, Portis sticking AP on the blitz and Campbell scamering for 10 yards.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Whenever we have somewhat of a nice lead, Gibbs & Co. become complacent and are too conservative. Gibbs is too worried about making mistakes and turning the ball over, that we turn into a prevent offense and defense. We'll never be able to put teams away. I believe every game this season is going to come down to the last drive by either team. Let's just hope we can re-group and come out firing on all cylinders after the bye week.

Posted by: CC | September 24, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Good things that happened:

We finally got our turnovers on D.

We still had a chance to win playing that poorly.

The team has this taste for 2 weeks and hopefully we come out and stomp Detroit.


Not letting Soup or Sellers run that up the gut is inexcusable to me though.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

SkinsRealist said:

"Every year the Redskins have numerous games where they are hanging around in the end and come up short or just get flat out aired out. Its extremely difficult to cheer for a team when year in and year out they seem to break your heart."

Exactly. My point is that every year, almost EVERY team has at least one or two games like that. Sometimes 5 or 7.

Have some of you ever even met a Philly fan? How about a Red Sox fan before 2004? A Cubs fan? A Lions fan? A Raiders fan? Teams go through up periods and down periods, good times and bad times.

If anyone was hurt more by this loss than any other over the past 15 years, I don't see how you could be a real 'Skins fan. I can think of 5 games off the top of my head that hurt worse than this just over over the past 3. And I can think of others farther back that were much worse (the 'body bag' Skins-Eagles game, among others).

I can't understand people who put themselves through such anguish 3 games into the season railing against a 2-1 home team that has lost 3 starters to injury in 3 weeks. If that makes me a homer, or makes me unfair to the 'sky-is-falling' crowd, so be it.

Posted by: jcabana | September 24, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

CC,

I would have rather seen 50 gut called six times in a row in the third quarter.

The defense didn't give the offense time to get a rhythm (seven straight thrid down conversions) and vice versa (three straight three and outs).

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

jcabana - I think we're harping on that loss so much because 1) We should have won 2) the schedule is only going to get tougher and 3) it's a division loss

Posted by: CC | September 24, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Just finally worked up the gumption to post some analysis.

1. CP looked a bit slow to me. I think the knee is still an issue.

2. Ditto what sween said about Soup. He shows those flashes of arm strenf and accuracy, like the one to ARE at the end, but then thows low, late and behind Sellers on the very next play.

3. Play calling was an issue in the second half. There were some ugly moments of schizophrenia when Al obviously couldn't decide if he wanted to grind it out or put them away.

4. What the SJK is up with all the dropped passes? Soup was not on, but neither was Moss till the end.

5. The D is still vulnerable in the middle of the secondary. I still don't get this "soft cap" or whatever where you you bring the safety to the line to cover the run or to blitz and then have Rocky or London covering a TE or worse a receiver. Nobody is fooled by that any more. Tampa two worked because Derek Brooks could run his a** off. London is great but not that fast and Rocky needs to work on the swiveling head.

6. ditto to sween again re. the mental aspect. The drops and poor execution add up to a loss and brain farts. Good time for a bye week and some clarification.

7. The good news is we played about as bad as we could have and were still in the game.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

CC,

True that. The best opportunity for the 'skins in about...forever and like usual wasted.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

bangkokben, I agree re: Burress. Him playing the game made the difference b/c the Skins' cover-3 shell can account for three offensive playmakers, but not four. Burress, Toomer, Shockey, and Ward. Ward was indeed the liability he was projected to be. He is explosive on the outside. Not yet Tiki-explosive on the inside, but he's on his way. In my eyes, Ward could be the offensive rookie of the year. Seventh round pick. If not offensive RIY, then at least the Colsten of this season.

I'm guessing they had their version of Fletcher (not sure who that might have been, but it couldn't have been Air Horn Pierce) give them a half time speech along the lines of "what! 0-3! we are professionals!" or something like that.

The NFC East is not for the weak of heart. Giants add a little game face to their incoming shame. Philly scores more than they had since 1953. Dallas lucks out again (wink). The Skins bye week could not have come at a better time.

If the Skins had won yesterday, there definitely would have been a psychological effect on upcoming opponents. [Dallas won't get that for their 3-0 b/c they are already getting the national media hand job.] The team that gets the unexpected psychological advantage on the season (on the back of Norv Turner) is Green Bay.

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I don't know the stats, but I think the times of possession on the two halves would be almost mirror images. The Skins crushed the Giants' D in the first half by 'grinding it out' and keeping them on the field. [The first down conversion rate must have been huge for the Skins in the first half.] The Skins' D did better in the second half than the Giants' D did in the first half, but the inability to stop the third down conversions.

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Eagles v. Giants next week should be intense. May they beat the living snot out of each other. Dallas has for no apparent reason had trouble with Rams. Hopefully the Rams turn it around. Otherwise the hand-jobbed stars will likely be 5-0 playing the Bills the next week.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile Detroit takes on Chicago next week. When was the last time the 'skins played a team not coming of two losses in a row? Why all the desperate teams? Seems like every year their opponent is in a must win situation.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

For as lousy as the offensive play was in the second half, 95% of the hate mail (esp., by Skins bandwagoners) would not have been posted if they had scored in that last series. No one would have noticed the crappy O, but would have marveled with deep and abiding homerism, if they Skins had tied it up on that last drive. Repeat: It is very fortunate that Portis gets two weeks to rest the knee.

Coming attractions: Kitna and four solid receivers. Yes, the Eagles humiliated the Lions on the score, but Kitna threw for 446 yards compared to McNabb's 381. [Translation: the Lions' D at full strength sucks worse than the Eagles without Lito Sheppard.]

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

jcabana:

Time to call you out: you would give parts of your anatomy to have the Eagle's run over the last few years. Sure they came up short, but they were getting to NFC Championship games and Super Bowls. Because the Giants had already won the division and did not need to win that last game of the season does make the Skins look like worldbeaters. My season tickets are long gone and they keep calling me BEGGING me to pay for another set. And if the team had some competent play from the skill positions, they could have gone to the NFC Championship game that season. But again, they FAILED for the same reasons they have failed in the last 15 years. Injuries happen to every team and it's up to the organization to prepare for contingencies. No draft picks to restock the talent and snarfing over the hill vets does nothing to hedge against injuries. Nuff' said. I've lived in Philly and know the fans, know WIP Nation. They are far harsher than these words. Nothing wrong with expecting professionals who earn $$$$ to deliver on fundamentals.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

CL,
If it will make you feel better, at least Norv's ineptitude is San Diego's problem now.
Posted by: etrod | September 24, 2007 10:33 AM

...And on an even brighter side, the Shotty-curse seems to have moved coasts to infect another franchise and wipe out what should be the most elite power running attack in the league. Not to exposing Charger 'fans' (I call them observers) and broadcasters into the whining, no-support frauds I have come to know them as since arriving here 7 years ago from DC.

But as I said last night (1:11/1:15am posts), we are better fans than that...or so I thought. Thankfully there are enough folks on this board whose true commitment to this franchise continue to buttress that belief against the nauseating whining and complaining that surely cannot originate from anyone who really understands and appreciates how this team has and always will transcend far beyond the field to mean so much to the most diverse and loyal fans on the planet.

As I also said last night, many of you seem to be missing an opportunity to embrace a team that is finally heading in the right direction. I won't regurgitate my thoughts from last night (you can find them if you want to wade back through the mullet, sister/wife, and paper bag nonsense a few clicks up), but how long have we waited for a young, talented, high-ceiling, and incredibly good-natured QB? And when in the last two decades have we had inspirational stories like Montgomery, Heyer, Wilson, Betts, Cooley, etc to replace the tired and complacent retreads that never belonged here and planted the sees of a loosing culture that certainly doesn't belong here???

Taking shot at our guys for being inept - and especially for a lack of effort (Lloyd aside) - is nauseating and exposes those who are doing it as fraudulent 'fans' like the ones out here who won't cough up a couple of bucks a year to build a stadium for what is arguably one of the most talented teams in recent history.

We ARE better fans than that....right???

Posted by: SoCal SkinsFan | September 24, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Prediction: Rex Grossman is not the starter by the time the Skins play the Bears. Someone fill me in ... was Brian Griese ever good before the knee injury?

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Forgive the blasphemey but I would love for the 'skins to move more toward a 'pass to set up the run' team. Now we have a QB that would be comfortable with that approach. I think then you would see Portis churning out 9 to 11 yards as the DB would have to start playing deeper.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

We are who we thought we were.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | September 24, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

It is still early in the season. Three things that really chaps my a$$ three weeks into the season: 1) Picking who is going to the super bowl - are you serious? Three games is all you need to make an serious assesment? I don't know who is worse, all the so-called experts or the dopes who listen to them. 2) Too much inferences put on W's and L's - can you seriously count out a team that is 1-2 or 0-3? Yes I know it is very hard to rebound after an 0-3 start, but there are still 13 games left. Who's to say they can't win 9 of the next 13 and finish 9-7, and especially in the NFC, possibly get the wild card spot. It is the leauge of parity. 3) Can someone please stop spitting league averages after TWO games - ok, for example, a team that is ranked ninth in scoring through three games and is eleventh in points allowed, YOU (Those who think stats and rankings mean something after TWO games) would think that team can go deep into the playoffs. Now please raise your hand and stand if you think the Houston Texans are a playoff team this year. Bottom line, statistics and rankings are irrelevant at this time of year. You gotta look at the season in quarters. First four games, are quarter number 1 (Checking out stats and rankings at this point is ok), followed by the next four, 2nd quarter, also at this point you have the 1st semester, which is time for some serious evaluating, (game planning, coaching, player development, injuries, etc...)and so on. So please don't tell me this team is last in points allowed because at the end of the season, that same team the looked like the 85' Bears reincarnated all of the sudden looks like the 07' defense of the Cincinnati Bengals, thus far, lol.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 24, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I agree wholeheartedly with whoever said St. Joe is too conservative this year. I'm not talking about playcalling, which is Weird Al's purview. I'm talking about the apparent attitude of the team as a whole.

The way he has set the tone for this team in going for a field goal on 1st down in the OT of the Dolphins game and sending the field goal unit out in that clock chabingus at the end of the 1st half of the Eagles game, he has them playing to not lose instead of playing to win. They lack a killer instinct, a totally balls out, let's knock the snot out of them instinct. Until that's there, this is an average team, at best.

You also can't overlook the fact that three-fifths of the offensive line were not starters at the onset of training camp. That is a patchwork offensive line out there, and simply being one dimensional in the running game limits them considerably.

Finally, don't panic. 2-1 entering the bye is great. They have to get to 6-5 or 5-6, stay reasonably healthy, and make a run at it. 9-7 will probably get you in the playoffs.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

A couple of observations: This team looks over-coached to me. It's probably inevitable with so much experienced high-priced coaching staff, but the team has no identity - worse yet, the Giants claim they became predictable.
Secondly, everytime I see JC I'm reminded of another strong-armed QB from the not-too-distant past - Patrick Ramsey. He throws a pretty good deep ball, but the other parts of his game are just not there....at least yet. Some of this might be coaching, but I feel some of this (as someone who's watched him since his frosh year at Auburn) is his MO. He needs a system that stresses consistency and his strengths. He struggled mightly at Auburn until his senior year, when they brought in an OC that understood how best to utilize his talents, raw as they were, and still are, BTW.

Posted by: EricYing | September 24, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

3. Play calling was an issue in the second half. There were some ugly moments of schizophrenia when Al obviously couldn't decide if he wanted to grind it out or put them away.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 11:03 AM
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I felt the same way re: the "moments of schizophrenia." After stewing on it a bit, I'm almost certain that St. Joe is handcuffing Saunders in the playcalling department. Just looking at this season, Saunders has showed us that he understands cutting an opponent's throat when they are weak (as evidenced by the deep pass to Moss at the end of the Philly game). I simply cannot believe that it wasn't his desire to come out at the beginning of the 3rd quarter and put his boot on the giants' collective throat and suffocate any remaining signs of life. Instead, however, we saw a team that was attempting to play not to lose. St. Joe has to let the fear go and take the f'in cuffs off of Saunders. Let the man do his damn job.

My only gripe with Weird Al is that damn reverse. If I never see it again, it will be too soon.

Posted by: JustMe | September 24, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

sween,

I'm not worried as much about the Lions recievers as I am about their TE. This is a systemic problem that you can trace back to the earliest parts of last season.

Burress was essentially playing TE. He was sitting in the middle of the zone, or bouncing off to the outside, even on the TD catch. The YAC on that play was due to mental error and not blazing quickness. He was able to shake a poor tackle and find the crease.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Lloyd now has 23 catches in 18 games with the Skins, no touchdowns, and NO catches in 3 games this year. CUT HIS AS*

Posted by: Coach | September 24, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Eric,

There are people who agree with you though the vast majority of NFL personnel people disagree. Campbell needed to win yesterday's game. He didn't and didn't think that he needed to. Not his fault he's been taught to manage the talent around him. Missed some throws, got caught in the pocket a few times but hit some great throws and put his team in position to tie the game. All he needs is experience. Ramsey had a good arm but just stood there until someone hit. His best game was probablly his first. The differences are canyons apart.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Is Caldwell just not coached up enough to play yet? It seems there were a few times when we could have used a taller, possesion type receiver.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The Eagles defense chipped in to the carnage with nine sacks of Lions quarterback Jon Kitna

Hopefully, G-Williams has gotten word of this, and is planning accordingly.

Not that it needs to be gone over, but Rogers needs, first to make the pick on that throw, but if not that, he needs to make that tackle on Buress.

Anyway, I'm moving on, we lost, we can't change that now. Hopefully we can get some kinks worked out, and some injuries, Moss/Portis healed even more.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 24, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Anybody hear anything about Calvin Johnson's injury? I wonder if he'll be sidelined for a while considering he was carted off the field. I apologize if this was already discussed.

Posted by: CC | September 24, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=270923028

Check out the Scout's Buzz:

"The Washington Redskins took an early lead in this game, but this team has no "killer" instinct. Despite three Washington turnovers and plenty of opportunities, offensive coordinator Al Saunders refused to take the handcuffs off QB Jason Campbell. The Redskins never opened up the passing game until it was too late. Campbell showed great poise in the first half, but then in the second half, the Redskins had way too many third-and-long situations because they would not throw the ball on first and second down. When the Redskins needed to crank up the passing game late, it just was not there. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El were completely neutralized in this game. That's not just Campbell's fault, Saunders and the offensive coaches need to shoulder a big portion of the blame as well. This offensive is way too conservative. With three shots inside the 3-yard-line, Clinton Portis is on the bench and they only attempt one pass. Until they open up the offense and turn Campbell loose, the Redskins are going to be in close games every weekend.
-- Jeremy Green, Scouts Inc."

I can't say I disagree with much of it. I would contend, though, that Saunders is not at fault because I don't believe he is completely allowed to call the game he wants to call.

Posted by: JustMe | September 24, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

The one thing that I didnt get was when we got the ball back with 5 mins or so left we passed 3 straight times, we had enough time to try and run the ball, and didnt even try. I think this loss falls on the offense, the defense did alright, but when your on the field for a whole half your going to get tired. Just my take on the loss.

Posted by: SAK | September 24, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

It is quite clear that Joe Gibbs blew this game for the Redskins. It is apparent that Gibbs like to sit on leads and it not aggressive at all. I know that he will come out and say that they took what the defense gave them, but that is just not how the game of football is played. The series at the goal-line at the end of the game was disturbing for lack of a better word. The best plays we have is a pass play of Mike Sellers that if he had caught the pass he still was not in the endzone followed by consecutive runs by Betts. In all honesty the game was already lost by then. I have to go back to the third quarter; if there is not continuity in the offense then why not try something tailor made to the personnel that we have instead of running a Pee Wee league offense. Why are we not seeing the wide receiver screen in moderation, or the quick slant to put pressure on the DB's and the blitz, what about the deep crossing routes or double moves from the wideouts? People can say what the want about Stever Spurrier and I am clearly not saying that he is a better all around coach than Gibbs but the one thing I can say is that he has the right mentality offensively. Football is not a game of allowance it is a game of dictation and unpredictability. I know that I am just a fan and I have not won Super Bowls or even coached in the NFL or NCAA for that matter but I have at least stayed at a Holliday Inn Express. I am tired of looking at other teams doing and running things the right way and wondering why we are not doing things like they are (this is a copycat league except for the Skins).

Posted by: Sean (Md) | September 24, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

We've already been over this. Cutting Lloyd isn't a viable option at this point.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

My cowboys co-worker (he also likes the Yankees and Florida State) was really rubbing it in today. I am trying to be very gruntled today... which is probably why I am avoiding the RI. Too many disgruntles up here.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Just want to say thanks to you guys like sween and jcabana and etrod and bangkokben and others who've swung us back onto some good solid analysis.

I get why disgusted and realist are venting but at this point after this many years I feel like that road is leading me nowhere but to the bottom of a bottle in a dark alley with a crack pipe and Michael Irvin. So I'm choosing to try to be realistic with a strong undercurrent of hope and excitment. If that makes me an idiot well shoot I'll where that label proudly cause it ain't the only reason you can call me that.

AMTTS is right we are who most of us thought we were.

P.S. - I'm going to keep asking this cause it's a personal family thing for me. Can we please please keep the homophobic misogynist crap out of the trash talking. We're all smart people in one way or another so let's be more creative.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

DisgustedFan,

"Time to call you out: you would give parts of your anatomy to have the Eagle's run over the last few years. Sure they came up short, but they were getting to NFC Championship games and Super Bowls. Because the Giants had already won the division and did not need to win that last game of the season does make the Skins look like worldbeaters. My season tickets are long gone and they keep calling me BEGGING me to pay for another set. And if the team had some competent play from the skill positions, they could have gone to the NFC Championship game that season. But again, they FAILED for the same reasons they have failed in the last 15 years..."

What are you trying to say here? Try forming a coherent paragraph. But wait...do my eyes deceive me? Are you actually COMPLAINING about the 2005 Redskins season? Now I KNOW you're a fraud.

Not many teams faced a do-or-die game every week for 5 weeks and delivered every week in recent history. The Redskins did it in 2005. But that's not good enough to impress a so-called 'fan' like you.

"Injuries happen to every team...". Not to the teams that are still standing at the end of the season. A prominent feature of most championship-caliber teams is that they've had great luck with injuries. Not many recent title contenders have lost two top-tier linemen in the first two weeks. How many linemen have the Colts and Pats lost for the season in recent years?

I wouldn't trade the Redskins for any other team. Especially not the Eagles. And I wouldn't trade REAL Redskins fans for any others in the world. Especially not Eagles fans; there are too many jackasses amongst them.

I dream of the 'Skins getting good with their own people on their own merits. I don't dream of trading any part of the Redskins for any part of the Eagles. The Eagles run over the past few years was great. The Redskins' history is much greater. I'm in this for the long haul, not for the 5-year ebb and flow of one team over another.

Nice attempt. Keep trying. Or, better yet, don't bother pretending anymore.

SkinsRealist, thank you for another injection of sanity into the conversation.

Posted by: jcabana | September 24, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Sean,

I don't agree with you except for the fact that the play calling in the 3rd quarter sharted. I think Saunders calls the plays. Spurrier was the ultimate chicken when he had leads. One year he went up on Fla. St by at least 3 TDs and then just ran the ball. The game ended a tie.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell Gibbs to work on the Two Minute warning. Those three plays should have gone like this:

2nd down: Spread offense, Cambell QB sneak.

3rd down: (Same formation) Cambell bootleg pass.

4th down: (Clock stopped bring in the biggins' hand it to Sellers.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

sween and LB - I was thinking the same thing about CP and his knee. Also I'm wondering if the shoulder got stung after last weeks flip into the endzone and the blocks.

His presence on the sideline was a huge mystery.

J-La - I'm sure you're hunting down all kinds of things but I imagine a lot of us would love and answer to that question. Not that we'll get anything but the party line.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

From Bram's site (http://coveringtheredskins.blogspot.com/):

"RB Clinton Portis said he was "hurt" which was part of the reason he was not in the game on the final two run attempts from the 1.. " and

"I did not speak with Al Saunders so this is heresay, but I was told he "had no idea" where Portis was on the final two plays.. To be continued on that one..
"

Also, don't forget about Shaun Suisham's easy 39 yard miss. Would have made it a 17 point lead at the half and might have broken their spirits...

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 24, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Offense is about being creative, using misdirection, and being misleading. I truly respect Joe Gibbs, but anyone can see that when the half or game is closing he is deciding to be way too conservative. In that goal line situation I would have had Cooley, Sellars, Sean Taylor, and Portis as my backs and receivers. Just the fact of having Sean Taylor in there makes the defense thinks twice, while they're thinking the second time, i'm handing off to 283 pound Mike Sellars.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 24, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Jason, go back and add Joe Gibbs' brain to the list of inactives for yesterday's game. It's clear that he took over the playcalling for those final 4 plays. Atrocious. Anyone who has seen Kansas City play under Al Saunders' offense knows that he would have NEVER made such idiotic calls in that situation.

Gibbs needs to turn over the offense to Saunders completely and let him run it like he did for KC. Gibbs is far too conservative these days, and it's going to kill this team. With the game tied, we're still doing the ol' run, run, pass punt routine, acting as if we're up by 30 and simply trying to run out the clock. Turn it over to Saunders, Mr. Gibbs.

Posted by: Craig | September 24, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

It's sad but true, this team will never realize whatever potential they have with Gibbs 2.0. they never blow anyone out when they should, every game they win is close, no matter who the other team is. lose games they shouldn't, just pitiful. it will be same ol shti as long as gibbs is here. I don't know why this, but it sure is obvious. Fire up the Cowher bandwagon and get the checkbook ready!

Posted by: T | September 24, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Portis looked like he injured his foot in the 2nd quarter.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

From Les Carpenter's article today--
"What happened, Giants Coach Tom Coughlin later explained, was that the New York coaches figured out what the Redskins were doing during halftime -- both on offense and defense, which had been equally as dominating -- and then came up with a quick solution to stop it."

Pretty telling. That used to Gibbs. Emphasis on used to be. Completely out-adjusted at halftime has been a recurring theme of Gibbs 2.0-2.4.
The Redskins looked like they drank warm milk and ate cookies at halftime.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I can weather the geriatric play-calling, the Alzheimer induced clock-management, the gutless jumbo package that 'thought-it-could' but really couldn't, none of these things are new, and I'm sure we'll be tortured with them for the rest of year; I'm ok with that (for now), but will somebody please, please tell me how on God's green earth Plexiglass survived LaSlamdry's tooth-loosening collision at the goalline?

Of all the things in this world that are unfair, unjust and downright wrong, this seems to be the most egregious.

Posted by: Megskin | September 24, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

The Gibbs-bashing has reached a ridiculous crescendo and seems all too convenient for way too many folks who surely must know better.

As painful as it is to admit after the hero-worshiping the man as a kid, Gibbs 2.0 seems like a bad fit for today's game. That is NOT an indictment of a coach who - how easily some forget - rescued this franchise from oblivion two decades ago and will AGAIN leave it far better shape than directionless mess he inherited.

Gibbs 2.0 is a bad fit because of the salary cap-crippling decisions made upon his arrival by a well-intended owner, whose hero-worshiping of Gibbs as a kid was the catalyst for trying to buy enough (old) talent for him to hoist another trophy. It is a bad fit because of personnel decisions like dismissing Smoot that cost us Shawne Merriman. It is a bad fit because of the Old Ball Coach years that turned this team into a laughing stock league-wise and made it place utterly inhospitable for the potential O-Linemen and - ironically - WR free agents who were not interested in running career-ending 8 yard slants into the teeth of defenses.

What Gibbs 2.0 WILL do, however is leave us with a team with a QB that was developed in the manner of Gibbs 1.0 and a team full of guys (again, Lloyd aside - he is a joke) who do things the right way and are getting better rather than older. Adding any kind of threat as a #2 WR and depth at the OL will make this team a REAL contender in the NFC East and the league overall next year.

Even if you find it convenient for forget what Gibbs did for this franchise in the past, isn't that worth more than all the vile and short-sighted criticism?

Posted by: SoCal SkinsFan | September 24, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I am just curious to find out what the Skins actually do when they so call game plan for an opponent. The Giants previous two opponents torched that secondary where the only reliable player they have is Sam Madison. I am trying to figure out why the couldn't more exploit the matchup with Kiwanuka who is struggling adjusting to the switch to linebacker. The Giants also had Webster back there at safety and yet that couldn't be exploited either. I am just tired of Gibbs coming with the same song and dance every week talking about why we could do this or that sounding more an more like Norv Turner used to.

Posted by: Sean | September 24, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to have to pull out the play by play because there is the truth that the play calling was rubbish but do you think Gibbs called the reverse? or the two passes to moss on 2nd and 3rd down on the first series?

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Ah, well. The first loss of the season happened. And now, we're getting the first-loss blues (or is that the burgundies?). Coworkers seem a little more grumpier, traffic gets a little worse, and the Metro seems to move a bit slower. And with it, we have the inevitable onrush of emotional bereavement and anger mismanagement that would apparently only ever be seconded by the day Starbucks announces they're giving up coffee in favor for a line of decaffeinated pink and purple fizzy drinks served with curly straws and festooned with flowery names like "Lilac Bloom Pomegranate Blend Chiller" and "Balearic Breeze Acai Lemonade".

Yesterday's game just wasn't pretty once the third quarter came around. The offense couldn't keep on the field, and left the defense hanging on the field, wearing them out. We eventually seemed unable to put on much of a rush, unlike the first half of the game. Our Big Ugly Fat Fellas - Offense (BUFF-O) weren't handling things at the line, making a run game difficult, and the passing game sporadic - we're going to be hating losing Randy Thomas for awhile, yet.

The Gints played decently well in the secondary, and both Plexiglas Burgers along with Taser Mullett managed to get some solid play in once the Washington D wore itself down. Ward is starting to look a little scary. LBM played well enough, more or less.

And the last series for the Skins? Wiffle bats to forehead time, no joke. Bootleg, SJKit, bootleg! Or at least put in CP. Or something else, at least....

All that said, I find that it's just rather silly to be panicking at this point. The finger-pointing is best saved for later if the team continues on the road, but at this point, I find myself only mildly concerned about the state of the team. Maybe I'm ignorant, or clueless, as some of you negativists might boldly complain in your rants about what's wrong, who's to blame, and the magic pill solutions that would seemingly fix everything. Maybe its because we've been all through that before. Maybe it's that glazed response to the seemingly permanent uncertainty that turns every future poodle into a pitbull. Or maybe I've just got a little hope in that idea that we've got more than 80% of a season left to go through before we start bringing out the shovels and the caskets.

Posted by: FlimFlam | September 24, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs can't even look at the field goal in the final seconds. Super smart way to give your team confidence St. Joe

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Posted by: don't ask me for sh*t | September 24, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I hate that guy.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

SkinsRealist,

That is one of the best points I have yet to hear anyone make. The first or at least second play on that goaline situation should have been Mike Sellers up the gut. The rest of the plays should have been playaction, rollout, or spread. However the playcalling is just not that advanced like the rest of the 31 teams in the league. It has been quouted that the Giants said after the game that they were very surprised by the play calling down the stretch.

Posted by: Sean (Md) | September 24, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Danny Boy said yesterday that his Dad must be smiling down from Heaven when He hired Joe Gibbs.

No Danny, he is rolling in his grave asking himslef how can my son be such an idiot!

(Comments during GM comcast interview)

Posted by: Forrest | September 24, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

The one thing Gibbs isn't is stubborn. This line is either going to get fixed to produce on the ground or they will open the playbook for more passes (55% of the plays). I hope it's the latter.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Run Forrest! Run!

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by 4-12: The Redskins looked like they drank warm milk and ate cookies at halftime.

No wonder. Some of those guys are bound to be lactose-intolerant, someone needs to talk to the trainer about that. Whatever happened to Gatorade? I heard that was like good, or something.

Posted by: Megskin | September 24, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Flimflam
you got 80% of a losing season to go and making excuses where they cant be made,Is very repeditive. Face it the Gmen are a very bad team and miami is worse at 0-3 and eagles are not far behind, This team needs to be rid of all these over 28 FAs and start over which will take 3-5 yrs but it is a direction!

Posted by: REBUILD or be FOREVER in the SH** of the NFL | September 24, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Fake fan at 12:19. This is a rebuilding year. Or haven't you notice the turnover and youth?

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

My cowboys co-worker (he also likes the Yankees and Florida State) was really rubbing it in today.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 11:50 AM

Typical 'girls fan. Might as well throw the Lakers into that mix.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 24, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I hate that guy.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 24, 2007 12:10 PM

We all do.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | September 24, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, glad I only read this blog every now and then. Many of you people are morons. Truly.

Posted by: Mike Diamond | September 24, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

bangkokben
total Idiot fan, if this is a rebuilding yr to you then you need to find another sport to follow Like maybe PUTT PUTT?

Posted by: REBUILD | September 24, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

GAY luvers at 12:21

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Nah not Boy toy and KOK? Hmmmm

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I'll ask... wouldn't surprise me... Although being a Bulls fan would be more consistent with the 90's theme.

good guy, just one of those guys

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

At least we know what songs we sing and which we don't. Beat it you Cowboy lovin' one eyed yockel.

Posted by: Ad Rock | September 24, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by 4-12: The Redskins looked like they drank warm milk and ate cookies at halftime.


'bout sez it all right there. Word, 4-12.

Posted by: GU | September 24, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"Some young stud linemen would come in handy. Unfortunately, the picks that were needed to get them were traded away."

Yeah, but they don't draft linemen anyway. I like Landry a lot, but they REALLY needed an OL/DL with that pick and it's going to come back and haunt them.

Forget everything else, the Skins lost yesterday because they are soft. The Giants came out swinging the second half and the Skin's backed down. Heck, they even woke up Strahan in the second half.

This was a bad, bad, loss. :(

"The Redskins looked like they drank warm milk and ate cookies at halftime."

Couldn't have said it any better.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | September 24, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Few things I learned from yesterday.

- Betts is a back-up for a reason. He still can't get in the endzone.

- Shawn Springs is not as good as some people give him credit for.

- LaRon Landry has great potential but he still has lots of work to do.

- We need to line up Cooley as the 3rd WR and bring in a TE that can block more often.

- Portis is the best pass blocker we have (See hit on Antonio Pierce)

- Sean Taylor is better than some people give him credit for.

- We have all the right players in place. I'm not feeling the same way about the coaches though.

- There are still 13 games left in the season.

Posted by: bigfish | September 24, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Teams I hate because their soooooooooo damn good, but mainly because everyone else is always ridin' their grapefruits:

1) Dallas Cowboys
2) New York Yankees
3) San Antonio Spurs

Many would say the LA Lakers and the Chicago Bulls, sorry Kobe and Jordan are my two favorites within the last 15 years. The Spurs have the crown in basketball because of their recent success and constant pissin' and moanin'.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 24, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Lets not make this out to be something more than it is. We lost. We played well in the first half, and lousy in the second half. But its ONE loss.

We're getting the bye at what seems to be an opportune time, so lets look forward and not sit around stewing about this.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Doc Walker was bringing the heat this morning. A couple things I pulled away from his rants.

Why are they keeping the training wheels on JC? JC said last night he feels like he can handle a lot give the kid more information. Are you going to let him air it out more or only in certain sitautions. Are we going to let him be the QB or be conservative and make a gameplan where he isn't losing the game for us. I don't think JC was the problem. For me it was the coaching.

Who's calling the plays is it really Al calling Al's plays or is it Al calling what Joe Gibbs would want called?

Just disappointed with the result.

Posted by: calebt17 | September 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

"The Redskins looked like they drank warm milk and ate cookies at halftime."

Com'on everyone!(this means you Skins)

Koombayah! Koombayah!

Maybe they can talk the Lions into bringing some marshmallows to the next game. ;)

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | September 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

For all the KoolAid guzzlers out there: I'd love to tell my bosses that I fought my guts out, it was close at the end, I have no idea why it all came apart but hey, accountability starts with me and I'll work on it real hard this week. And by the way, I'll keep picking up my $$$$$ paycheck on the way out for 15 years while playing this schtick on my buffoon bosses. If this is acceptable to you, then you have capitulated to mediocrity and worse. Tell it like it is and face up to the problems and demand a heck of alot more than we are being given.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you can blame the FO for yesterday's loss. It was fundamentally an inability to put the dagger in the heart of your down and out opponent. The 'Skins snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

But it's the NFL. Every team (except the Colts and Patriots, it seems) is capable of laying an egg on any given Sunday. Heck, Cincinnati went into Cleveland to play a team that had never won a division game and got squished in a shootout. The Raiders and Chiefs both won this weekend, and we would have sworn that wasn't going to happen until around week 13.

Calm down folks. Don't go buy those cement shoes just yet. Let's be patient with our young QB, our doddering offensive coaches, and our shiny defense. At the very least, it appears that we have a Pro Bowl punter :-)

And, remember, it's just a game.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Joey Crawford -"HEY Duncan"

Tim Duncan -"What now Bavetta wanna be? Did I sneeze on Coach Poppovich too hard?"

Joey Crawford -"Wanna Fight Me!?"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"...Al calling what Joe Gibbs would want called?"

You just answered your own question.

Week one I noticed an old play resurfacing from Gibbs first run.....Gary Clarks old corner pattern to El.

Brought back instant memories, and then I thought to myself "How sad is that?"

Make no mistake, Saunders might be making the calls but they are still using Gibbs playbook.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | September 24, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I think my comments about JC were a little misunderstood. The offensive suffers from over-coaching - basically they've failed to establish their identity and therefore perform inconsistently. JC suffers for this because at this stage of his career he's still a bundle of physical tools (hence the PR comparison) without a proper way to channel them. He needs to know what is expected of him and he also needs to have full confidence in his schemes and the players to execute them. I still think they don't have the correct mix of receivers to make this work, though. Maybe it's a question of too many cooks, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: EricYing | September 24, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The guy sitting next to me (no lover of the Giants) maintains that Burress is the BEST receiver currently in the NFL, even compared against guys like Marvin Harrison. I remember a coverage by Fletcher yesterday where the little fella busted up what should have been a money catch for Burress. Burress is 6'5" and 220 pounds. Sure, Fletcher has 10 pounds on Burress, but Burress had 7 inches. The guy is just large and fast. He survived the Landry hit b/c Landry, for better or worse, Sean Taylor without the unsportsmanlike conduct. Sean Taylor could have gone for a knee ... or maybe stomped on the ankle.

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Well as usual, I agree with everything sween says. I also agree with the scouts inc. article someone posted about needing to take the handcuffs off Campbell. We have had plenty of time to learn the offense good enough to open it up more. Campbell is the real deal if they would just let him play and stop worrying about making mistakes. Our first two games JC made three mistakes and we still won them(2 in the 1st game and 1 in the 2nd) . Yesterday he didn't but we got conservative trying not to make mistakes and lost that way. We were conservative until we couldn't be anymore, then Campbell took us down the field. Yeah, he made a couple of high throws, but he completed the 4th down passes with the pressure on even more. He is capable of doing it if we let him. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd rather lose taking our shots than to be conservative and still lose, I mean, the iggles almost came back on us like yesterday (but no one talked about it cuz we still won).

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 24, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

After an hour of reading through the garbage on this blog I had to comment.

The sting of this loss is related more to the fact that it was an 0-2 Division Rival than it was bad play calling or crappy coaching. As easy as it is to play Monday Morning QB and say "I would have done this" and "I would have done that", fact of the matter is we needed 1 yard.

1 "SJK"ING YARD

I don't blame Gibbs. Odds would have it that if you can't gain 1 yard behind the strongest part of our O Line and Pro Bowl Tackle Samuels you got outplayed. Giants D stepped up, our offense didn't.

I would rather have this game be the gut check loss we needed as opposed to losing to the Lions, Packers, or going into NE and getting our A$$es handed to us and then go on a 3-4 game losing streak trying to bounce back. Now we can get pi$$ed off for 2 weeks, kill 1-2 of the Lions players after cutting out their eyes and pi$$ing into their ocular cavities in a rout at home, then go into GB 3-1 with renewed confidence. I hate the loss, but I lets be realistic... it's week 3 folks.

Posted by: Dislexic Dex #72 | September 24, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

In terms of the goal line, CP had way more success running the ball yesterday:

CP

Left 8, -1, 3, 3, 5, 1(TD), 3 = 3.14
Middle 16 = 16
Right 2, 0, 8, 3, 8, 1 = 3.67

Betts

Left 14, -4, 4, -4, 0, -2 = 1.33
Middle N/A
Right 2 = 2

Sellers did not carry the ball at all, so I am not sure about giving him the rock on the goal line.

According to the numbers, it looks like the coaches should have pounded CP up the middle 3 times in a row behind Rabach and probably Kendell. That's the smash mouth mentality I want to see anyway.

But, if CP was truly nursing a sore foot, then Betts to the left was the best option available.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

DisgustedFan,

I as well as all the others on here somewhat feel where you're coming from. I know I do. People, what the poster is simply doing is venting fustrations that have built up the last 15 years or so. We as fans should expect and want more. I'm sorry, I've said it again and again, but just because 20 something years ago a man took a team to its first of three championships, the last one coming sixteen years ago, should continue to get a pass. I respect Joe Gibbs. A very class guy, great person, great coach -for his time. The game is way too agressive now. Faster, bigger, stronger, and smarter players dominate the game today. Think it was a point in time where these things were a given: 1)Quaterbacks did not run past the LOS intentionally. 2)Tight Ends were an undersized linemen, thats it. 3)Defensive Ends were 300 pounds and relied on strength to beat a offensive tackle. We all laugh at a player like that today. He is either a sitting duck in the pocket, leaves a lot more to be desired from a TE in todays NFL, or switch the DE to NT in a 3-4 scheme. The NFL is just different. Loyalty is extinct thanks to free agency and the salary cap. Conservativity and loyalty are two great things at 66 but in a time where you can be a head coach at 33 or 35 you have to be able to identify with "todays" players. Will Joe Gibbs get this team into the Super Bowl by the end of his tenure, most likely he will not. Will Joe Gibbs get the right guys in here for the next coach that comes along, count on it.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 24, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I was at the game on sunday, first the fans were great, but you could feel the big Mo switching after the converted 6 straight 3rd downs. My big thing that made me so mad was the fact that we think that betts is almost as good as portis. He is not, he is a great 2 but he is never what portis is. Portis finds holes, and knows how to get into the endzone. I love Joe and he is the reason why we have any bragging rights with 3 superbowls, but I think he makes some really bad moves. I would have loved to see some draws with portis in the 4th because they were teeing off on us. They have great pass rushers and we could have softend the passing game with some runs. ARE has really turned it on to be a great 2nd guy that we have lacked. We just need to get cooley involved a little bit more, why is his number not called on the 1? Does Joe secretly not like Portis? I mean it seems like he has something against the guy, run him 25 times and get him 100+ it only helps out the passing game! Carlos, needs to be a nickle back because he is horrible, and if we let springs go It will not be good to have two cornerbacks that should be nickle backs starting because when we face a team like the cowboys they and not the dolphins they will light us up for 50+. Its time we build through the draft and stop getting rid of the future for guys who sit on the bench...ARCH...85...dead duckett...the list goes on forever. Get a GM and get some young tallent to for depth, which they tried to do I just dont know how successful it will all be.

Posted by: The Rich | September 24, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

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