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Inactives

Rabach (groin), Heyer (hamstring), Washington (hamstring), Thomas (triceps) are out.

Macklin, Boschetti, Caldwell are scratched. Brunell 3rd QB.

Godfrey replaces Marcus and Pucillo replaces Rabach. That could be huge. Casey is pretty hard to replace and is kind of like the catcher for the offense, setting the offense, making the calls, to say nothing of what his athleticism means to the running game. Losing Rabach and Thomas, that kind of kills their pulling game. Those two are exceptional in that regard.

Will be very interesting to see how they do on the ground, and if they have to be one dimensional to the left.


Also, heaven forbid something happens to Pucillo, because they didn't sign a back-up center this week. Kendall played one game at center for Arizona in 2003 and I think he snapped the ball a bit at BC, also. So I imagine in a pinch he would go to center and DeMulling would play guard.

The 3 O Linemen reserves today - DeMulling, Kevin Sampson (who they just signed) and Lorenzo Alexander (the DL they are working over here) - have never taken a snap in a game for the Redskins. They need to stay healthy on the line this Sunday or we may be reaching the point of no return.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 21, 2007; 11:47 AM ET
 
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Hire Richard Simmons are the "hammie & groin" coach!

Posted by: Alan | October 21, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

UGH! Gotta "win one for Casey"....if they can than the extra rest and rehab should help...

Butt....if they don't...slippery slope...

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

jasno on the case

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

run up the middle; swing passes to the outside in place of running wide -- move H-Back into the slot to block

Posted by: BD | October 21, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Hope you're right Chris Larry... Casey with a week of rest against NE could be nice. Skins at 3-3 in New England not so nice.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

where can i listen to the game on the internet?

Posted by: out of area | October 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Cardinals best LB, karlos Dansby is out...a good thing for us...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Snap anyone watching cousins chad and Keyshaun going at on ESPN....great TV...

Chad Johnson should have slapped Meshaun across the damn face, who does Key think he is?!?!?!

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Here we go Redskins, here we go (clap clap)
Here we go Redskins, here we go (clap clap)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Next week preview

NFL catches Pats cheating during game day and makes them forfeit, Redskins win 7-0!

LOL

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Been busy this week....did I miss Farstriker's latest edition from the Book of Jason? I scanned the comments all week but didn't see anything.

It kills me that I have a gig during the game today - an all Russian program, so at least that sort of kicks @ss...probably better that way though, especially if the skins lose...much loathing and destruction if I am live witness to a loss to the cardinals.

Posted by: Uncle Heyron | October 21, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

need a win, TB,Carolina,Gints all 4-2
Det 3-2 but we beat them head-to-head

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

who is the lucky person that places Jillian's microphone between the girls

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Time to retire the TCCLs... from FoxNews

Remember all the excitement last year when Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder invested in Tom Cruise's movie career?

Well, that episode is over.

Sources tell me that the deal Cruise and Paula Wagner made with Snyder was bought out sometime in the last few months. The change came when the pair's money came through from Merrill Lynch to finance the films they wanted to make for United Artists.

The end of Snyder as a partner no doubt came as a relief to all sides. Snyder -- as I reported last year when all the back-patting was going on -- was an odd choice for a partner. He's a top Republican fundraiser and such a good friend of George W. Bush that he was one of the people who convinced him to run for president.

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

frosty looks bad in warmups -- kicking it about 30-35 yards. ok if you're practicing downing it inside the 20, but he was kicking from his own 35. worst i've seen him in warmups.

Posted by: gaithersburg skin | October 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

DeMulling played some center for the Colts.

Posted by: Cliff Huxtable | October 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

not good news, could be a 6-3 kinda day

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Hold up, noone... we can blame Snyder for the W presidency, too?!?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Yes DS is evidently responsible for the demise of the Redskins as well as western democracy

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303530,00.html

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

are and moss both look fast and are cutting hard and normally in warmups.

Posted by: gaithersburg skin | October 21, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

can anyone tell a displaced Redskin fan who unfortunatatly to be in the midddle of steeler country how i can listen to the game on the computer

Posted by: bill cowher | October 21, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

triplexespn.com there ya go coach Cowher...lol

Posted by: eric | October 21, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Weather looks great, and the band is playing, and we got Tim Ryan for our game

Woohoo

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Kurt "the one arm wonder" Warner is going to start? How long before Grif hit him and Rattay is in there...

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Everyone on the FOX show picked us to win. I worrey

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Warner will start. Impressive.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Get the door. It's Domino's. Me? I've got the key lime yoplait covered.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Funny, I'm online ordering Domino's now.

A bit worried about this game...Triplette reffing, meaning there should be tons of penalties.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Way to go D!!!

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Third straight week of multiple zone blitzes from Man Boobs...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

GAME DAY! This is the longest 3rd down ever!

I've been MIA all week due to the quarter ending and havig a forest worth of papers to grade. Still not done and will try to do some during the game. However, I know you evil blog people will suck me in! Woo!

Anything to know besides injuries?

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy

Domino's? You giving the Oreo pizza a second chance?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't the least bit worried about this game. It has, in the words of Kornheiser, smelled like dinner for a while. Of course, the last time I wasn't worried about an opponent, it didn't work out so well for the Redskins.....

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

God, Triplette kills me. Where is Hochuli when you need him? Maybe he's playing on the line today.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Hit the penalty thing right on the head P Diddy

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Second chance??? Oreos pizza is Diddy's Sunday meal du jour!

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, Putin was hanging out with Ahmedinijad, and the 'Skins have no offensive line.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

CP is bear huggin' that ball! Good!

Ugh o-line. Must send good thoughts.

Oh no!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh-no it's starting

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Trap game.

I called it days ago.

Posted by: GAD | October 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Blogging hurt this morning...well, hurt beyond my de riguer hangover. I dislocated my pinky playing football yesterday. It was hanging there 90 degrees upwards. VERY COOL. I snapped it back in and caught the next pass for a TD. Hurts like a motherSJK right now, though...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Yes I did hear about the Caspian Sea coutnries being unavailable for wars. Nothing stops wars like a bunch of countries saying "No war here!"

D come up big! Turnover!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

My Sunday tradition is the key lime Yoplait, thick and creamy.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Is this our guy Tim Ryan on this game?

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

How bad is Rattatouille that Warner is playing basically 1 armed.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

The Reaper saves this game.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

WOOHOO!!!

REEEEEEEAAAAPPPPEEEERRRR!!!!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Notgetting the game here.

What the SJK is going on...3 yd punt!!

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

That was a horrible pass by Warner...Nice PO (pickoff) by Taylor.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

GAD

Please explain, what is a "trap game"?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

defense scores 40 redskin nation complains. Tomorrow's headline.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

A little play info would be awesome...I'm dying here!

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey wait that's a genius plan! The defense will move the ball down the field to 30ish yard line and then give it to offense.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

cosmo, it was blocked.

Sellers getting some carries today...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

More nice camerawork; the guy went with JC instead of .... yes, that was Sellers churning up the middle.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

We're here for you, Cosmo. And at least one of us does not have a hangover.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Short yardage, 'Skins come out in a Near formation. Sellers with the 1 yard carry for the first down. Never seen that formation from Weird Al...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Diddy,

I will have to go to the local watering hole at the half.

Drink suggestions?

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Sellers does not convert the third down, but the Cards get a personal foul for piling on, first and goal 'Skins.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Great Cindy,

I do appreciate it. I can't even get the game on radio here.

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Are all the WR's inactive again today?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

cosmo - so we have Mr. Yellow Flag ref thus a million penalties already.

Skins first drive was 3 and out - Cards block punt and get ball back at Skins 40. Warner throws INT right at SeanTay who runs it back to about Cards 30.

Sellers getting a bunch of work running and passing. Soups getting harrassed a lot due to o-line problems.

We just got a 1st down on a penalty even though Soups threw short pass on 3rd to Sellers and he had no chance to make 1st.

Now 1st and goal and CP just took it outside for a 1ish yards.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

NO yardage running right. NONE. Ugh.

Tim Ryan is totally on the ball today.

cosmo, I suggest...a cosmo!

TD CP! Horrible TD dance.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the Redskins...

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Diddy--He hasn't had enough practice with the dance this year.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

WOOOO!! CP takes it in for a TD behind Sellers running left!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

So, should I go down to Qwest today for the Rams vs. Seahawks, or should I take a nap? Looks like a dog of a game...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks everybody!

As soon I finish my Ketel Citron...onto Cosmo!

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I am shocked the Radio broadcast is a 1/4 seccond faster than the TV. Usually its 1/2 seccond behind

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Diddy,

I don't even know what's in a cosmo(shame on me).

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Diddy - I vote nap. Even if it is an exciting game it's still that game.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone catch the size of Braylon Edwards' watch in that NFLPA commercial? He must be compensating for something.

Again, Ryan and Rosen on the ball...how many TV teams will showcase a block by a nobody TE? Love it.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

great block by Yoder

cosmofla try http://www.triplexespnradio.com/

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

jeez...the cards are awful. what an undisciplined team. we should walk away with this. skins 38 cards 7

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Warner is an ass.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

look for another pick here..

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

A proper cosmo consists of 2 parts Grey Goose, 1 part Cointreau, 1 part cranberry juice. Always choose Cointreau instead of generic triple sec. Cointreau will make a drink much smoother, even if you go with cheap vodka.

Caffeine Free Diet Coke for me.

This defense is swarming. Great to see.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

A Ketel Citron would go well with my key Lime thick & creamy yoplait....could one of you swing by with that? Thanks in advance. Oh, and make it a double.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

remember to go to NFL.com and vote Sean Taylor All-Pro

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Cards' receivers really doing a great job today.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, Never leave a 'Skins game. You'll miss the second half heartbreak.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, Triplette.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

now that's cardinal football. get a drive going then have mental breakdown.

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I live 5 minutes from Qwest. I can leave after our game and walk down to the stadium. I would never leave a 'Skins game, even if we were losing by 30 points. Watching the burgundy and gold is my idea of Zen.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Big step up by the D.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I see the officiating is already favoring the redskins. should have figured it would be this way. throw them both ways. give me a break.
What's with Redskin fans? Shouldn't they know the rules? Cardinals block the punt and "skin fans cheer like they recovered the ball.

Posted by: Samie | October 21, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

The defense is strong once again.

"Was that the running man?" Awesome.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

At the same time I can't help but feel for Grimm as a former Hog.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Triplette is the worst ref and his crew is the worst crew in the NFL. Rest assured, flags will be flying in all directions today.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Fuc***G referees need to QUIT calling BULLS*** penalties and lets see if REDSKINETTES can win this game without theyre help? I DOUGHT IT!

Posted by: jm220 | October 21, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Mmmmm, cheerleaders...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm very very happy that I have not seen the Burger King in ages....and, I confess, I think I have a little thing for the Verizon man. The women of the office agree...He's genial, dependable, quiet. Sure, he's a bit of a stalker, but he'd be there when you needed him.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks noone from tampa,

Got it, haven't heard Sunny in years. Who are the other jokers?

Diddy, I shall imbibe in a cosmo or two.

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I knew that was Huff.

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

That's what we needed - three and out. At least we got the ball to the playmakers. ugh.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I hope some redskin fan thinks this would be an "easy" game only because of the cardinal qb problems? that would be the only reason why. nothing special about redskins. officiating killed two cardinal drives.

Posted by: samie | October 21, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

fake jm - if you're going to fake it at least put in some effort.

Umm is the Cardinal secondary that good that we aren't going downfield . . . more?

Cyn - Verizon guy assessment right on. That dude is making $ hand over fist without having to utter a word. how do I get that job?

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Let's finish this. Put the game out of reach. Kill Warner.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, y'all (women) want to marry the Verizon man but ya want to date McSteamy

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure I'd be sipping a Ketel One right now if Mr. Verizon and I were a couple.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

So, JC's first incomplete goes to Receiver, The. Seems appropriate. And Caldwell is still inactive? Where is McCardell?

Posted by: DS | October 21, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Heading down to PB Gardens...Duffys Bar and Grille. Thanks everybody, keep blogging your guts out.

Hail!

Posted by: cosmofla | October 21, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that was a punt!

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

US Americans update: It is still OUR country.

phew.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I think noone hit the nail on the head. :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

In my misspent yoot, sure, Noone...But not now. Vinny Verizon is looking pretty good. (Probably not a good sign that I've given him a name.)

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

see what i mean? that was pass interference. cardinals make the same play, zebra throws the flag,

Posted by: samie | October 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Back to fubball....The Cards really are horrible, but I am troubled by the fact that the Redskins aren't up 21-0. They should be.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Run right, 4 yards. First gain to the right today...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Soups throws are all high, not good

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, Cindy is right about the camerman. Ugh.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

1st pass on 1st down. Should get excited but it's incomplete.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm troubled about Cindy's participation up here once Bullets/Caps/NCAA bball starts up. Are you committed Cindy?

Campbell has some serious ZIP on the ball.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Interesting graphic: Skins yards per rush have steadily declined since Week 1, going from 4.7 to 3.2

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Tim Ryan is a superstar! Best commentator I've heard/seen in years. Reminds me of Madden who I think isn't as good as he used to be.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I have zip interest in Boulez/Caps until after their leagues' respective all-star games. And NCAA hoops? I turn my attention to them about the last week of February. I am with you all through the combine.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else feel like the Skins are bit shell shocked from last week and so are skittish out there?

If we can keep these passes to ARE going and get some good runs then they'll shake it off I hope.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Cooley drops it, drive stalled. Ugh.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Sheesh all the 1pm games except NE My Hammy are slugfests with baseball scores.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Even an FG would help at this point. They need to break through. For those who are wondering, it's about 80 today....No humidity, tho.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Interesting graphic: Skins yards per rush have steadily declined since Week 1, going from 4.7 to 3.2

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 01:51 PM

I wonder if this has anything to do with the injuries to the O line?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

How many different prisons are they going to get locked up in for PRison Break? I started out a huge fan but they jumped the shark.

Creators said 2 years ago it'd be a 2 year show cause how much running around/breaking out could you do? Well I guess they found an answer.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Oy, that photo of the Hogs in Cooley-esque shorts...

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see Betts hitting his usual average...

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Man, Smoot should have a target painted on his back.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

London!!!!!! TD 'Skins!!!!!

Deeeeeeeeefense!

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

OMFG! Yeah!

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS!
TOWER OF POWER!
LONDON BRIDGE IS SCORING A TOUCHDOWN!

WOOOWOWOWOWOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

My problem with Prison Break is that I can't figure out what it's about....Hahahahaha.
Now, that's what they needed, a London Fletcher TD. Only problem is that the defense is outscoring the offense. I am troubled by that....

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

touchdown fletcher, 27 int return

Posted by: Greg(Beantown | October 21, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

For the record King Card:

Redskins: 14 points off turnovers
Cardinals: 0 points total

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Okay, technically not outscoring, matching. You know what I mean. The key is that they're up 14. One more and this one might be ovah.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH, I know everyone hates teh caps but fletcher and taylor are friggin awesome!

Posted by: Tweedr01 | October 21, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Technically, the offense and defense are even...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

'Nother great game for d so far. Hats off to dub G. He has made a turn around from last season and so tip o' the hat.

Still don't want him as HC though. And they keep showing Russ Grimm and talking about him and all I can fantasize about is Russ in Skins apparel wearing that headset.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

21-0 by half time

would that make you happy Cindy?

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse


Anybody wanna trade? I'll give you Kurt Warner for, say, Grandma Moses?

Bring in the Rat-man! Bring in the Rat-Man!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

on the sidelines. Grimm on the sidelines in headset and apparel. As headcoach. Just to be clear on the fantasy. . . .

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Can we get Tim Ryan EVERY week??? The dude rocks.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Suisham's KO's are pretty weak today, and Frost's not putting much on his punts.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

King Card - are you actually a Cards fan? really? On a Skins blog? Or just a regular offering "fair and balanced" perspective for the blog?

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Do we think Redcoat is okay?

Presumably the NE game isn't unexpected (I know I took trip to crazyland last week on it.) but still.

Redcoat - stay off the belltower. It's not worth it.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

D needs to be off the field more in the second half. Can't sustain this. Don't even want to try.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

They need to go into the locker room up 21-0 against a horrid team like this. BTW, it's 77, not 80.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry everyone. I'm excellent with winning games when we have the lead at halftime.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Brady has 25 TD passes, one more than he threw all of last year!

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm still of the opinion of: F new coaches!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

'Skins defense holds on 4th and 2. Awesome. Let's put this game away, offense.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Are you SJKing me? Ugh.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Ah shti balls!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

You gotta give it to Portis, he's a sjk of a tackler.

Posted by: SKACK | October 21, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse


What did I tell you? What did I tell you? What did I tell you???

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Oh, dear.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Playcalling, again threatening the enamel on my teeth.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

If I'm the defense I take the offense out back to the parking lot . . .

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Playcalling, again threatening the enamel on my teeth.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 02:14 PM

Greg--What is wrong with calling a screen pass? Would have gone if soup had gotten the ball up higher. It ain't the play calling that's wrong with this team, dude.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Once again, offensive players aren't geting it done. Campbell's thrown the ball too high twice. Cooley's dropped a pass for a first down. The plays are good, the players aren't getting them done.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse


Touchdown coming up...

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this defense is amazing.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Holy Shnikees! Great D!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

St. Joe better go in at halftime and throw chairs and call out the offense and get their swingin soul arses in gear!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

TA, we have 82 total yards at the half against an poor defense. Sorry this offensive playcalling sucks. Pass to set up the run. Watch a Pats game, they pass all over the field, and that opens the run up.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Great patience by Warner there.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Is Wisenhunt the next Mike Martz?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

ARGH! Even I SAW that coming! And that is saying something. Can't blame D they've done everything they can.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Of course, the extra point is blocked!!!!!!!! Jeez. Whisenhunt appears to be saying, "No class." Over and over.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I think its about time for Gibbs and Saunders to go.

Williams coaches his unit up to put the Redskins in a position to win.

Gibbs and Saunders do their best to Lose games.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

And you think we have 82 yards because we called the wrong plays? Get real. How many offensive linemen aren't playing? How well has Campbell been throwing the ball? How well has Cooley been catching it?

They passed to set up the run. Did you see Cooley drop it? Did you see Campbell make three bad throws? You go watch the Patriots. I'll check them out next week.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse


All hail King Card!!!! I call for a feast! The finest burgers and cheeses for everyone!!

We've got you right where we want you now. We're within 7 points, you'll fold in the second half, CP will trun the ball over, Moss will drop and we'll score at least 10 points to win!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Offsetting facemask penalties -- between a cornerback and kicker!!! How great is that?

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

No catches for Cooley after last week?

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Wait, a kicker gets into a fight? Huh?

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I want to see Williams punch Saunders out ala Buddy style

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

We're within 7 points!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 02:23 PM

Only in Phoenix is a 14-6 game "within 7 points." Try again, dude.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Are Sam and Tim vamping while they wait for the boys in LA to be ready?

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Your opponent has no time outs left and YOU call a time out which allows them to get set. Can they run a 2 minute drill??? Unbeliveable

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

7-8 points; whatever. We're still within the magic 10 point number at the half. You all know they're going to choke in the 2nd half. Who's your king???

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Our King is Al "I will call plays designed to turn the ball over" Saunders

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm an agnostic when it comes to Cards Fans. I really can't believe they exist. Anti-skin fans; now I've seen those.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

why are redskin fans so full of themselves?
playing against a one-armed qb. he may still beat you. and be thankful you have a good defense, 'cause you have NO offense.
you sound like you have a superior team?

Posted by: samie | October 21, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The big question will be can the Redskins lose to Patriots by less than 28 pts next week.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse


Coach Joe is working on his post-game concession speech right now!

Seen your opponent next week? tossed 4 TD's already in the 1st half.

Instead of Hail to the Redskins, you should change your team song to "Freefalling"....

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Some of you need to wake up and stop blaming Saunders. The offense has to EXECUTE....you hear me...EXECUTE. Wait let me spell it E-X-E-C-U-T-E. That screen pass was a great call but credit the Cards D for making a play on it.

The D can only do so much and hey they did the best they could on that. We'll see what happens in the second half. Yea nice to see you can't count there King Card. Get a life.

I'm still left wondering why the Skins called a timeout when the Cards were going to be called for delay of gaem with the play clock winding down. Oh well. Another game leading at the half? Do we fold or rise up? The suspense never ends with this team. Get use to it.

Hail

Posted by: Jonathan | October 21, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

why are redskin fans so full of themselves?
playing against a one-armed qb. he may still beat you. and be thankful you have a good defense, 'cause you have NO offense.
you sound like you have a superior team?

Posted by: samie | October 21, 2007 02:29 PM


WE HAVE AN OFFENSE...

Just ask the Green Bay packers...OUR OFFENSE GOT THE WINNING TD FOR THEM!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

TA, first, lighten up. Ok.

We've gone to Cooley once, Moss twice, and ARE twice. That's NOT a good game plan. Those three are the teams biggest playmakers, and we've gone to them a total of 5 times? Sorry, the running game isn't working, Portis is averaging under 3 a carry. Stop trying to run, when the other team doesn't respect your passing game. Stop throwing it sideline to sideline and throw it down the field.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Some of you need to wake up and stop blaming Saunders. The offense has to EXECUTE....you hear me...EXECUTE. Wait let me spell it E-X-E-C-U-T-E. That screen pass was a great call but credit the Cards D for making a play on it. Posted by: Jonathan | October 21, 2007 02:30 PM

LET ME FIX YOUR POST

THE OFFENSE HAS TO EXECUTE AL SAUNDERS

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I realize O is playing about as banged up as you can get but honestly this is where you earn your $ and show what you're made of.

Play with some fire! Play with some passion! I agree on the execution. Yeah you guys are done like half the team but now is time to step it up.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Dane Cook must be shot into space.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

nobody's run on the cardinals this year. they've shut down frank gore, shaun alexander, and willie parker. why would anyone think portis can get anything? if the 'skins do anything on offense it has to be throwing the ball.

Posted by: samie | October 21, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Rock is my hero.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

There goes another hammy

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

DA ROCK! Now the o better flingin flangin do something with this!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

great run by Rock! but I think he pulled a hammy

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I think the Patriots scored DURING HALFTIME!

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

GOOD JOB OFFENSE

GOOD JOB

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Garcia has 190 plus yards at the half throwing to Galloway, and Ike Hilliard.

We've got a better set of WR's and a better qb, and we had 48 yards at the half.

Posted by: Greg(boston) | October 21, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Go Miami! Set a record for giving up the most points, so it will no longer be Washington!

Posted by: My Hammy | October 21, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Why does the universe hate us?

UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm...Wade missed his assignment.

When it rains, it pours. Swiss Ham misses. Ugh.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

This O-line is horrible. Time to bring in some competition for Swiss Ham.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

pathetic.

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

EFFIN OFFENSE! EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFFEFEFEFEFEFEFEFEFFF


AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

@(*$&(@)*#&$(*@#&)(!@*&#$!)@(*$&!)#@(*$&

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Terrible waste of a return.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse


All hail the great King Card!!!!

He hath predicted all that has thus come true. You are powerless to stop the Cardinals from winning this game. (Although that lunkhead Warner might have a say in it if he keeps it up...)

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Brick hands strikes again.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

CARLOS ROGERS STRIKES AGAIN

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Surefire INT Dropped by Double Move. What a rarity.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

That sooooo shoulda been an INT for a TD.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Rock injured quadriceps. What is going on with all these muscle pulls???

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Rock Cartwright hurt his quad...This ain't good.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Injured quad?

at least its not a hammy/groin. They probably over emphesized the hammy/groins and forgot to stretch quads.

Get well Rock.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Okay so hey maybe we'll get a first down.

Maybe we'll get 2 first downs.

I want a unicorn!!!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

He's got his helmet back on and is on the sideline. May not be too bad.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Here comes either a three and out or a turnover. It cannot be prevented....

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Rogers can hardly be expected to get an interception now after that viscious kicker attack!!

Posted by: Sherry | October 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I love this Philawarepragicago guy.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Fire our trainers and conditioning coaches.
Fire our trainers and conditioning coaches.
Fire our trainers and conditioning coaches.
Fire our conditioning coaches.
Fire our conditioning coaches.
Fire our conditioning coaches.
Fire our coaches.
Fire our coaches.
Fire our coaches.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I've seen it all, now. a penalty on the KICKING team for a block in the back? WHAT IS THAT? this crew is a JOKE. if the redskins don't beat the cardinals, the zebras will.

Posted by: samie | October 21, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Well kudos to Shawn Springs just for showing up with everything he's going through. His Dad has always been a class act and so is Shawn.

As for our offense, I'm embarrassed. Really, really embarrassed.

Posted by: karalynn | October 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, the pass looks to be set up. Enough with the handoffs already

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

CP is tearing up the field!! Woo hoo!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

King Card - Your predictions are horrible. Can we get another.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty tired of reading about groin strains. Not that this is about me....

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

We should probably fire all the blogpeeps and start over as well. Clean slate. Change the team name, too.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Bad pass... good catch!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

First down.
Back to "Prison Break," don't they need a new cast every week?

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

SF sucks....

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Is it my imagination or are most of JC's passes either too high or too low?

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else impress with CP as I am?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, we should also tear down the stadium and move things back to DC to reduce our carbon footprint

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Broken play, JC takes it for the first. Love it.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

FIRST DOWWWWWWNNNN WASHINGTON

Posted by: FedEx Field PA Announcer | October 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

No! This cannot be allowed! Stop them! Stop them!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I think we found a new RB. Let Campbell run the ball 24 times!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey Soups! Apparently he wants a unicorn too.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, JC's a bit off, but the Fox guys were saying that he has/may have a right wrist problem.

Do you have any additional info?

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

gotta love betts and his ability to fumble! This team sucks.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

FIRST DOWWWWWWNNNN WASHINGTON

Posted by: FedEx Field PA Announcer | October 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Who was that in Ladell's uniform?

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

That was a nice drive - King Card please predict some more three and outs for us...

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

CP with another TD. And another horrible dance.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

TOUCHDOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: FedEx Field PA Announcer | October 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry... Portis cannot do an endzone celebration.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

...hail victory..

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse


I'm melting...I'm melting......O what a world....

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Why not??? His the best RB ever!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

TA, first, lighten up. Ok.

We've gone to Cooley once, Moss twice, and ARE twice. That's NOT a good game plan. Those three are the teams biggest playmakers, and we've gone to them a total of 5 times? Sorry, the running game isn't working, Portis is averaging under 3 a carry. Stop trying to run, when the other team doesn't respect your passing game. Stop throwing it sideline to sideline and throw it down the field.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 02:31 PM

Greg--

Running game's not working?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

WOO!! Hey did we just have a drive? And a score? A drive where we actually drove and made it without any questiobale calls from the ref? (oh wait yeah the punt call)

But still we did it!

Yeah I think I see the tail of the unicorn!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

sfskin - I think you just got your unicorn.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse


Wow! Betts has upped average to 4 yards a carry today.

Actually, they should nickname him after that hair-growth product: "Nogain" Betts!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow and we broke the 20 point barrier! We're like Chuck Yeager!

Why do I still feel like we could lose? I know I'm being negative nelly but I can't help it.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

apparently it was Betts, he still didn't make it in the endzone. Thanks CP. We'll take a 21-6 lead.

What's with our passing game? We need to turn the dagger (as my HS lax coach would say). Put these birds away. Finish strong.

ATTACK YOU IDIOT!

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Our last 3 passes were for 26, 5, and 3 yards respectively.

Throw the ball DOWN THE FIELD.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell hurt his wrist last week in Green Bay, trying to tackle Woodson on the funble/TD.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Question to the Saunders haters:

Do you think the play calling just got better? Did Saunders all of a sudden become smart?

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | October 21, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Did the 'skins score any 2nd half points in their two losses?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

king card--

Score's 21-6. What's that? A 14 point lead?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Did someone in the blog have the balls to call what we do as a running game?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

What players are the Pats putting out on the field for second half? Mass state champs?

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Can't we get Vanderjagt in to compete with Swiss Ham?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Cyndy,

Has Swiss-ham kicked a kickoff for a touchback yet this season?

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse


On another note: with a 42-7 lead, would you pull Brady if you were the coach?

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

great!! I just made salsa and cheese dip and pulled a groin.

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

CP got injured... our running game is doomed... Oh' wait... nevermind.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

We need to bring in a kicker. Ham and Cheese is sucking lately.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Here's your makeup call on that ticky tacky spearing call on the Cards earlier.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Dumb, dumb, dumb rookie mistake.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

TA, sorry, you're right, CP is averaging less than 3 ypc, as is Sellers, but this is just a MACHINE. Portis's last 6 carries:
1
2
2
2
8
-2
Just perfect...

Posted by: Greg(Bostno) | October 21, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse


Ah, yes; excellent, young Mr. Landry, excellent. It's all coming together....

Posted by: Kign Card | October 21, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Cards are beating themselves. HTTR.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

te, I'm in Greg's corner. Cards D is very good against the run, but not so good against the pass. Maybe a few runs (traps especially) to keep the D Line honest, but I'd throw first and run second.

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Keep going there larry!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Our LBs are all over the field. Like white on rice.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

So are you trying to say that white is good?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I love illegal touching. Sounds like Larry Craig is on the Cards line

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I was also hoping to see the 'skins open up the passing game today. Now, I just want the clock to strike 0:00.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

London Fletcher is my player of the game so far - he's a machine!

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Adam,

How is Campbell doing with the passing game today? Has he been hitting his receivers on the numbers? How are the receivers doing with holding onto the ball? How have the Cards been playing the 'Skins pass? Are they giving up the deep stuff or the short stuff?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Fletcher is a beast. These refs are out of hand, flags on every play. Let 'em play.

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | October 21, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Do the Pats need a RB? Seriously. They could put a peg-legged pirate in the backfield and still win. 5 passing TDs?

Come on guys... stop the penalties!

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

White on rice is good, brown on rice not so good :-)

Told you Triplette and his crew would come through in this game. Worst crew in the NFL. They do everything they can to break the flow of the game, for both teams. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I've never seen more ticky tack penalties being called in my life. Geez - just let em play.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Here comes a touchdown!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Watch, the next flag will be for tackling the offensive player with the ball.

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | October 21, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

'fish--

That was a stupid move by a brilliant player. Fletcher knows he can't do that.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Ah come on. Technically good call but seriously. Sheesh.

Ah Senor Anon not to offend your sensisbilities so how about like green on broccoli.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Cards are beating themselves, but we are trying harder to beat ourselves!

Rogers got bullied by the kicker and now got steamrolled by the FB. LOL!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

You only see these penalties in a Triplette game. His crew is legendary for this nonsense.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

te, JC has been somewhat hit or miss, but the running game has been mostly miss. With a banged up O line, neither part of the offense is lighting it up, but I still think passing first, running second is the way to go.

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

agree to disagree. Stupid move, maybe but definitely a ticky tack flag to be added to the others today.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

TA, right now, Moss, and Cooley have 3 passes, 11 yards. OPEN UP THE FRIGGIN PASSING GAME. ARE has 3 for 54, so the options are there.

Posted by: Greg(Bean-ville) | October 21, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

The cards score nothing if the D doesn't give up the stupid penalties.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

PS other than one cooley drop, who else (besides Carlos Rodgers) has dropped a pass?

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Are we watching profootball?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse


Ladies and Gentlemen:

It is now time to declare that the 4th quarter now belongs to the mighty Arizona Cardinals and their freaky one-armed quarterback. We thank you for the 28 yards in penalties on this drive, and would like to take this opportunity to complete the drive with a TD. We will then proceed to stop you the remainder of the game all the while scoring 17 points this quarter.

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Delay of game to start the quarter. Someone fire this poor coaching staff.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Gamble there by Man Boobs didn't pay off. Only rushed four, Warner did a great job to buy some time. Good play by the Cards.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

He had time to tie his shoelaces have a coffee read a paper and throw a pass.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

We are so losing this game. Hail King Card. We want to lose more than you!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

offense needs a solid drive here (points preferable), otherwise everyone is going to be having flashbacks to previous 2nd half collapses

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Just giving away this game . . .

Upcoming is the portion of the show when Portis puts the ball on the ground.

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

ppphhhppptttt

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Groins, hammies, tendons, wings, what else? Cartwright breaks open a good return and HE is on the bench. Can you say OUT OF SHAPE? Unless something is done to turn the tide there aren't enough out of work lineman in all of football. When you are as old as Buges, you can afford to be out of shape...you ain't playin. But...this is what training camp and practice is/was for. And it isn't just the lineman.

Posted by: PalmikeoFlorida | October 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Funny aside...this is my new favorite YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Z6tDSb6c8

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm going outside... I can't watch this forth quarter. Hail to em, see ya later.

The Dorf Abides Outdoors.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Can they just take an L next week and rest everyone.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

well, looks like several bloggers are already having those flashbacks

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse


Actually, I'm surprised we drove it 72 yards on your offense..That's a big confidence bosster for us. You guys are getting tired.

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Notice I said offense, 'cause your defense is about all the offense you have.

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Redskins need to play it safe and not make any mistakes. That means no more passes and Portis up the middle 3 times in a row for 6 yards. Then we punt and hope the defense can pull it out.

I want it to come down to the last play so we can see Coach Joe on his knees with his eyes closed.

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Not flashbacks... recurring nightmares.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

king card, 30 of those yards were from penalties. both gave you first downs. don't get so excited yet

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Frost is warming up...

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

3 and out. Giants and Packers game redux. I believe it's Mylanta time.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

that was a great call. reminded me of Marty. 3yard pass on 3rd and ten.

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Frost!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Pressure on, tight game,throw short of first down and pray. Nice

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

At least we have a good punter. Here we go.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Again, I say the play calling BLOWS. Why run a pass route on 3rd and 10 for 10 yards? Just run it for 8.

Play calling S U C K S.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes, 8 yards on 3rd down when you need 10. The collapse is now in full force...

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

The D held its own against the pack. This is where the O had a chance to bail out the D. Doh!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

And I don't know what you're talking about with Buges being out of shape. For a 60-something dude, he looks great.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

how many times have we thrown short dinky passes today short of the first down marker?

Throw the ball at least ten yards down the field... good grief!!!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Now we go with prevent defense. hope they have a 10 minute drive and don't score.

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

No penalties! only 12 minutes.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Sam just said,
this is starting to look like the Giants game again...

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Did you see Portis's catch? Is it just me or did it seem like his first move was to dive for more yards? Instead of pummeling the CB.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Greg, that may have been a check down. Since we can't see the downfield coverage, that may have been the right choice

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

We need 10 yards, and who do we go to? Sellars? Why? He's a good player, don't get me wrong, but Moss, Are, Cooley, would have been my first choices.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

DIE IN A FIRE AL

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Time for another Cardinals turnover.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I officially declare that the Redskins as NPT.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I too would like to see a deeper throw, but if the outside guys are covered, forcing things isn't smart

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Okay I've hit the MUTE button. I can't leave but I can't listen either. For some reason watching in silence reduces the stomach acids by a wee bit.

That missed PAT may be the difference.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

d stop please!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

That would require Al to get hot in the 1st place...

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse


This is gonna come down to the last play...

Pathetic.

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

NPT?

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Non Playoff Team. We are still at the bottom of the NFC East. We are who the Cards used to be.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse


4, 5, and 6 yards....D's wearing out.

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

SHOCKING

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh boy

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse


Scratch last comment.. Cards may win by 10...

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I hate everybody.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Great pass by Warner there. I'm dying here.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Rogers and his mis-timed jumps are really annoying.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse


All hail King Card!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

F You, King Cad

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

They are going to lose this game to a one-armed qb. Unbelieveable!

Posted by: DS | October 21, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Defense totally worn out. I wonder if we will get a first down after they score?

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

D is getting tired. Can we get just 1 blitz please?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

We're playing scared. We're scared to throw the ball down the field.

Look at the LONG pass catches on the day for the Cardinals versus us:
Them
43 - 10 - 22 - 12

Us
26 - 9 - 8 - 6 - 5

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

F Grimm and F Wisenhunt.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Once again the delay of game to give more room for Warner.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

'Skins ball!!!! DEEEEEEfense!

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The D rocks!

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I called it!

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

whew.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

at least we can always count on arizona to choke when it counts

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW!

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | October 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Okay. I LOVE the defense!

I LOVE you guys! Well maybe not King Card so much. : )

I still hate the offense.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

We are not getting ready to take 40 seconds of the clock and punt. Can't wait.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

It's about time!

Posted by: Hillbilly Skin | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

iPhone girl is cute.

Glad to see the St. Joe coaching tree has inherited clock management skills from the master.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

saved again by a big play from someone on the D....

is anyone on O going to make a big play today???

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

King Cad where u at?

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Time for another Cardinals turnover.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 03:24 PM

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

wasnt a blitz

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse


King Card requires Mr. Warner to be entombed forever with a running dvd of that play. Make it so....

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Take a knee! ;)

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

odds we get a 1st down?

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Portis for MVP!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

King Card has already said he'll be here tomorrow to take his beat down like a man. He's A-OK in my book. What's football without fans trash talking?

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Frost running onto field on 3rd down

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Let's sit on the lead again

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

No chance.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Two straight 3 and outs. Ugh.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

3 AND OUT....

WHAT A BUM...

Bad playcalling and Bum QB

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Al Saunders should be fired after the game.

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Just one gosh darn first down!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Seriously offense I hate you! I fart in your general direction. Your mothers were hamsters and your fathers smelt of elderberries. And that goes for you too Frost!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

There may not be a beat down....

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Nice drive. At least, they didn't fumble.

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

We'll win this game 21-20. Maybe. If we don't give it away.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

O-line getting overwhelmed can't run can't throw and the play calling is bad too

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

D had no time to rest. This will be scary. It's good to hear the fans giving them a good "boo".

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Our guys played hard. I told them I was proud of them.

Joe Gibbs @ 4:10 pm

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

d stop please!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Sue, you'll be in charge of waffling.

Me, I'm going to be in charge of waffles. Mmmmm, waffles.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse


King Card hereby releases Squire Warner from the Dungeon of Entombment (is that a word?) But we have his dog. BWAHAHAHAH..

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Seriously i just went to the kitchen to make a cocktail at the begining of the drive and by the time I get back they are punting. This defense needs some rest, they are going above and beyond.

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

trash talking = low class/no class.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, if you haven't already, you must see "Spamalot". It's awesome. I laughed for hours afterward.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Guys, I think Gibbs is on to something.... since our Offense (if you can call it that) can't score. We punt as quickly as possible and hope that the defense can! Now that's a first class team led by an offensive genius!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Sonny just asked,
"Another two yard pass?"

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Suisham has had three touchback kicks this year...two were against the Lions.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Jesus....the Fed-Ex fans are retarded....why so many boos???? Impatient fools......Lets try and cheer our team on in tough spots...not will a 4th quarter collapse...

Posted by: skinnyntenny | October 21, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

adam, greg--

I concede. You were right and I was wrong. I can't defend the play-calling on that last drive. Ugh.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Cardinals - we're not dead yet

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

3 defenders there and he still caught the ball. This is hard to stomach.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

hey they were off air and when they came back on the air, you could hear Sam saying to Sonny and Larry...
"this is terrible"

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse


Brady just tossed another TD....

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I can understand why they are booing.. I too am fed up with this BS.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I have to admit I stepped up and defended Saunders in the first half...but that was on the expectation he'd open it up in the second half. I stand corrected. This playcalling in the second half is RIDICULOUS. Saunders is a joke. It's not about execution in the second half as much as the playcalling.

WE HAVEN'T THROWN THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD ONCE. The farthest throw down the field was 15-yard curl route. SAUNDERS...WHAT THE FLYING F***???????? WAKE UP!!!!!

Oh my even if we win this game..I hope the Skins can make it respectable in New England next week. Yikes.

Posted by: Jonathan | October 21, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the Redskins should've signed Testaverde. He ripped apart these same Cardinals after practicing a few days.

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

a first down please!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Sports Update... during the commercial the Redskins punted.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Defense! I hereby declare that once the defense has recovered from this game they get to use the offense as tackling dummies for 1 whole day except that I guess we still need them for the rest of the season.

Okay they get to throw shti at them for a whole day. Nothing hard but rotten food products are fine. And they get to yell and call them and their mommas names.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

a first down please!


Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 03:40 PM

Not sure they have a first-down play in the playbook. If the did, wouldn't they have called it already?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse


Because the O-line is so bad, JC doesn't have time to set up for a deep throw, which really limits what you can do. That's why the Cards are making a game of this. They aren't afraid of the deep ball.

We aren't that good, but you guys are in real trouble next week.

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

A bad fart smells better than this offense. :)

Posted by: Jonathan | October 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

but with a young QB?....WE HAVE NO O- LINE!!

Posted by: skinnyntenny | October 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan, they have no time to throw down the field because of the O line. Short drops, quick passes. That's all they can do.

Posted by: Skins fan in Philly | October 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Can someone remind me what a first down is? It's been a while.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

If I see another 2 yard run I will puke.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

CHOCOLATE RAIN

Posted by: TDawg | October 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

No, that last TD for NE was by the backup QB, not Brady.

Posted by: Alan | October 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

C'mon guys, one first down?

Posted by: DS | October 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Moss really bounced back this week, huh.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

157 yards offense and we're winning?

Do you think Saunders or Gibbs is calling the plays?

There you go -- the call a pass and they don't execute.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

IF THE BEST THING JC DOES IS THE DEEP BALL THEN CALL IT!!!


@#_($*&(@*#&$(_#@*&$*(#@&$

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

AL SAUNDERS = BIGGEST FRAUD IN THE NFL

JOE GIBBS = 2nd BIGGEST FRAUD IN NFL

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

nice f###ing call disph&t Saunders! another 3 and out. we SUCK

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse


Time for a punt and a TD drive with a 2-point conversion to tie.

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Three and out?

Who would've thought?

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

we just told Jason we have no confidence in him to get us a first down!!!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

bad enough that they ran the ball but then to go out of bounds and stop the clock. This may be the worst I've seen this offense play.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

So if you're going to run a draw on 3rd and 7, shouldn't you at least stay in bounds to not stop the clock?

Stupid play by CP

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

d stop please!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

IF THE BEST THING JC DOES IS THE DEEP BALL THEN CALL IT!!!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 03:43 PM

Doesn't do any good to throw the ball deep if no one can catch it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I like how Portis runs really hard.... ...horizontally!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

King Card nailed it. The coaching staff is too risk averse to air it out with this offensive line.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

3rd and 8, why not just punt it.

Sorry, but Saunders has to go, and if not him then Gibbs.

The play calling is TERRIBLE. OL in shambles or not, this is PATHETIC

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to puke, that was a 1 yd run. Has a team ever, even in the time of The Danny, been so pathetic.

Posted by: DS | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Yes it's true our o-line is holeyier than swiss cheese but this is reediculous.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

we just told Jason we have no confidence in him to get us a first down!!!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 03:44 PM

Jason missed it with a pass last time. But who don't we trust -- Jason or his receivers?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I think I aged about 10 years...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Prevent defense looking solid.

Odds they score?

1-1

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Is there a quick kick in that 700-page playbook?

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Do you think they draw straws at the beginning of the season? The group with the short straw gets to underperform for that season?

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse


Feel the wrath of our under-appreciated, two-ply quarterback!!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

offense is so anemic our blocked XP may actually be what givess us this game!!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Lousy o-line or not, this is awful. Campbell is being out-played by a guy WITH ONE FARGIN ARM. WHY, because we're scared to let him throw it. Our wide-outs suck too. Learn to catch a ball that hits you in the HANDS.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I believe last year's team was worse than this. And prior to that, the 0-5 Martyball start was pretty pathetic too.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

they shoulda traded for a decent tackle or gaurd after this rash of injuries

Posted by: skinnyntenny | October 21, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

My guess: They score and get the 2 point conversion.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The D is officially done.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse


Odds to score- 1-25

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

ALL HAIL KING CARD

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The D bailed us out last time - have faith.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but Gibbs must go. You can't coach in this league scared, which is what he's doing. Thanks for everything, enjoy Nascar.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

flag on the play for wishing some to die.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Anyone remember that horrible Boomer Esisian game against the cards?

Posted by: DS | October 21, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Cards can throw short passes and turn into large plays but we can never do this any longer!

anemic, sickly, weak, pale, offense!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse


Who scores the 2 pt conversion?

Odds?

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I want to vomit.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but Gibbs must go. You can't coach in this league scared, which is what he's doing. Thanks for everything, enjoy Nascar.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 03:51 PM

I'm with you on Gibbs, but I'm still not sure about Saunders.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I think if the offense can get a first down they should be made to play defense to rest our play makers.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Just drank an entire bottle of Mylanta here...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If they get 2 pt conversion, its over for Redskins

With Patriots next week, the season is done

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Horrible

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse


The RAT-MAN COMETH!!!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

can = can't

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs should step down after the game but only after he admits his mistake and fires Saunders

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I told you guys!!!!!!!

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

That was stupid.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

There we go boys

Posted by: Mofass | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? Onsides kick coming...

Agree with Tim Ryan. Dumb play call by the Cards.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

YYYYYEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!

DEFENSE!!!! L2!!!!

Glad to see the Cards play calling is as stupid as ours!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Time for Snyder to kick Joe out. Sorry Joe, love what you DID(past tense) for the team, but you DO NOT HAVE THE SEEDS TO DO THIS ANYMORE.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Skins win! that's all I need.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to the Cards to go with that idiotic piece of trickeration to blow it.

King Card, this is your fate

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

King Card--

The score's 21-20. I guess that's a tie in Phoenix, right?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

That's why Boldin was drafted as a receiver after being a QB at Florida ST

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

So now they need to cover the onsides. Remember that sick game between the cowgirls and bills a couple of weeks ago?

Posted by: DS | October 21, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

game on the line and they ran a gadget play... Where did these coaches learn? Oh, wait...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

If this game ends 22-21 Cards, I will go adopt the Packers as my team the rest of the way.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

King Card--

The score's 21-19. I guess that's a tie in Phoenix, right?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

DALLAS BUFFALO GAME 2

Carrdinals kick FG to win it

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh Gawd! We've seen this before.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

LOL

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay I'm gonna vomit again.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

You can't even recover an onside kick!!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

well, not so fast on that previous comment

wow

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I jumped the gun. Schit!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

nobody even close to that kick
wtF?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse


Rackers can't kick under pressure. Everyone knows that.

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

King Card--

The score's 21-19. I guess that's a tie in Phoenix, right?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 03:56 PM


STOP TALKING TRASH YOU IDIOT

You are cheering for Redskins...king of choking

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Skins coaches seem a little baffled by that onside kick. Lots of time left.....oof.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Even of the Skins pull this out they should be booed off the field.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Think the cards are going to fumble an attempted reverse to end this game?

adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I've seen Rackers hit the goal post four times in a row. Pick me!!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Here we go....

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

as if all 11 men did not know this was going to be an onside kick!!!

really aggressive their Skins
looked like bunch of scared middle schoolers!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic to point of comedy.

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Man!

The Fox station in the Pac NW just switched to the game. Now, I get to watch this debacle first hand.

I can't the chaos that Nate in the PDX is causing at On Deck, right now. I feel for his fellow patrons.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | October 21, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Huccome there were no Redskins near that kick????????

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

think positive, think positive, think positive....

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Pick me!"

Brilliant.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The corners are giving the receivers a 10 yard cushion. This has Buffalo/Cowgirlz written all over it.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Rackers in range.......

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

SJKing in my pants.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

This is way beyond terrible.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

If anyone says Joe Gibbs 2.0 is a good coach, i hope you die

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

this does smell a lot like the monday night football game. why are the skins corners giving up the out route when any catch over the middle that isn't in the end zone the end of the game

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Nate may be just weeping quietly in a corner.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse


Odds? 2-1

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

odds?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

SJK SJK SJK!!

(Crying tears of joy!)

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | October 21, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

LUCKY>>>>>LUCKY LUCKY

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

LUCKY. That's all I can say.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

holy sheeet
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

WE Wi.....oh, we lose....

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Still 2 seconds left

Saunders call a REVERSE

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

and there is non-anger in the dc area this evening

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Can they execute the kneel down? Odds?

Posted by: DS | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

The announcers were funny... they said that the redskins defeated the cards. I thought it was the cards who defeated the cards.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Rackers misses from 55.....to the left. Whew. Nate now breathing again.

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

NO GOOD! Escape by the hair of our chinny chin chins. Man oh man oh man. We stink. Nothing to gloat about here.

King Card, you're a good sport with a relatively keen wit :-)

Headed down to Qwest in a second. As usual, thanks for BYGO.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Well we didn't win that. The Cards lost it.

I'm sorry but this offense, players coaches everyone has got to sit down and do some serious soul searching cause this shti is about as ugly as it comes.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

$$$ Coach Gibbs says "I'm proud of our guys hanging in there"

No, your guys collapsed and the Cards only ran out of time or they would have won .... no doubt!

This is a joke of win!!!!!!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Lucky as SJK, right there.

Good lord, we're going to be NE's dinner, next week, if we don't change--immediately!

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | October 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Man, New England will be scared when they see the tapes of this game. I bet they forfeit, take an extra bye week to get ready for the next game.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Just quit Joe, just quit.....North Carolina is reeeaaal nice this time of year..

Posted by: 5 cent | October 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

take them any way you can get them, but the O needs to improve F-A-S-T

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

That may be the worst victory in the history of the team.

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Would it be a Redskins game if it didn't come down the last play against an inferior team?

Posted by: Alan | October 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs say "We try our best to lose....it just didn't happen. So we will make sure we get blown out next week against Pats"

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

We need to use next week as a bye week. Just start the practice squad and rest everyone else.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The 'skins are now waaaaay under the radar. Get healthy Casey and Co!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

We are suppose to watch the last 16 seconds of a trashing??? WTF? FOX sucks.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Snyder wont let the fact that Gibbs is his hero deter him from firing Joe. We got out-gained by more than a 2-1 margin.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Brady and Co. will HUMILIATE this team.

Posted by: GAD | October 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

My pulse is returning to normal.

I can now have a relatively decent Sunday.

And just for good measure and for the defense because they deserve it!

WE ARE 4-2 WOOHOO!!

4-2
4-2
4-2
4-2
4-2!!!!!!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Since the Skins are so bad, why don't you all become Cowboys fans?

There is no "comments" column in the league standings. Skins are 4-2.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Gibbs has us at 4-2, right? New England's going to be looking past us, right? Our O has to be rested up and ready to go, because they were hardly on the field today. We're just where we want to be.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I never felt more dirty being a 4-2 team...ever!

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | October 21, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Man, New England will be scared when they see the tapes of this game. I bet they forfeit, take an extra bye week to get ready for the next game.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 04:05 PM

That's the funniest thing ever.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

sfskin,

Look at any of the internals. A win, yes, but this was not a good day.

That's just the truth.

Posted by: GAD | October 21, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

This was just like the Giants except for the result. We should be 4-2 just like our record.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

A win is a win! WOO . . . .you know what I can't pull it off.

A win is a win but this was about as ugly and shtitty and crappy as it can get.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Snyder wont let the fact that Gibbs is his hero deter him from firing Joe. We got out-gained by more than a 2-1 margin.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 04:06 PM

It was the other way around against Green Bay, but we lost. Winning is definitely better, even when you get outplayed.

Posted by: Alan | October 21, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Why bother putting Cooley, Moss, Thrash, and Lloyd on the field? They accumulated a total of what 16 yards? Pathetic. Again, whomever thinks that the play calling didn't SUCK DONKEY, you have your head firmly up your sphincter. Hopefully Snyder pulls Gibbs out of the locker room, and tears him a new one.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 21, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Brady and Co. will HUMILIATE this team.

Posted by: GAD | October 21, 2007 04:06 PM

"Trap game?" I don't think so. Just the usual outing for the 'Skins.

It isn't going to be Brady and company. Brady's going to have a tough time figuring out this D. It's the New England D that's going to humiliate this team.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

to the tune of (Up on the Housetop)

Over at FedEx the Cardinals lost
Two Warner picks and my cookies were tossed
Then he fumbled at the five
But he threw 2 TD's to keep my hopes alive

Ho Ho Ho, don't we blow
Ho Ho Ho, don't we blow
Over at FedEx ralph, ralph, ralph
Had a game won but we let it go...

Posted by: King Card | October 21, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

When I got on this blog the score was 21-6. Then the Cards started scoring so I did something else. Good thing I got off this thing so that the Skins won! Whew! That was a close one.

Posted by: charlie | October 21, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

We WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN.

No O Line no problem.

Our guys are self destructive not doubt about it.

CR what are you doing. ST don't let him spine move on you.

Could have been more agressive on the Defensive play calling!!!

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

In a week or two we'll be the only ones that care HOW the game was played.

But I feel dirty too.

Posted by: Stumped | October 21, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually going to watch Gibbs' presser. I have to hear what he has to say.

I may kill my TV but I can't help it.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs say "We try our best to lose....it just didn't happen. So we will make sure we get blown out next week against Pats"

Posted by: | October 21, 2007 04:06 PM

Actually it was "We punted our guts out."

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This bandaged up O-line is horrible. I drink the kool-aid like everyone else (maybe more) but after watching today's performance I don't see any chance at all that we beat the Pats unless Brady, Cassel, Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Thomas, Samuel, etc. all get hurt between now and then.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

offense sucks, a lot.

Posted by: george | October 21, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

A team in red played Redskins football, kicked the other teams azz and lost.


Awful, awful, awful. Embarrassing awful. Can't run and can't pass. Cambell's worst game of the year. Stupid SJKín penatlies.

Did anyone even try on that onside kick? I've never ever seen as pathetic a coverage team in my life. If Danny Smith's mom was sitting next to me after that i'd have slapped her.

Posted by: Skinz | October 21, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Brady and Co. will HUMILIATE this team.

Posted by: GAD | October 21, 2007 04:06 PM

So what?

Who haven't they humbled?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

We won. Stop Bi*chen. Stop it.

We don't have an O line, do any of you reilize this, we don't have an O line.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

We had all of this crap about the skins should have 5-0. They gave away 2 games right, blah,blah,blah?

Well, the Cards gave this game away. Period.

There's no way the Skins should have won this game.

It was a gift.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

LOL Well the return of that familiar phrase from Gibbs on XXX radio...THEY FOUGHT THEIR GUTS OUT LMAO. I don't call 3 and outs fighting your guts out.

Posted by: Jonathan | October 21, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

We don't have an O line, do any of you reilize this, we don't have an O line.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 04:13 PM

Takes a new O line a while to jell. They'll be right against the Pats by next week. You could see at the end of the game they were starting to get it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Go Vikes!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Frost - 6 punts, 35.5 average

He may have punted his guts out of a job.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

bangkokben,

So what? 160 yds. today.

They're like Notre Dame East Coast.

Skins 3rd in the NFC East girls.

Go look it up.

Posted by: gad | October 21, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse


You folks have been great this week! Thanks for a fun trash-talk.

You really do have a darn good defense. Special teams is pretty special too.

Wishing you all the best of luck the remainder of the season.

Your new friend (a losing one, albeit)
King Card

Posted by: KIng Card | October 21, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Takes a new O line a while to jell. They'll be right against the Pats by next week. You could see at the end of the game they were starting to get it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 04:15 PM

You're kidding right? They didn't move the ball especially during the crucial end part of the game.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Time to watch the Vikings whip the Girlz.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey King Card - well played sir during the game. Glad to have someone willing to trash talk with wit and aplomb.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

what happened on the kick, they last thing I remember is the paramedic shouting "Clear"?

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Comcast Post Game - Just interviewed Philip Daniels and man he is POed!

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Gad,

It's a long season. The team was horrible today. But they won and got away with no injuries. Their destiny is in their hands win in the division.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

What was he POed about?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Okay St. Joe - he's spinning as we always expect him to but you know what don't think he believes it at all. For whatever that is worth.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

skinz... can you tell us what he said? Is he POed about his offense... coz he should be. the offense should hand over their pay check to the D for this week.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs talking about the game right now with great pride.

Just sad.

Posted by: Jeff | October 21, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Takes a new O line a while to jell. They'll be right against the Pats by next week. You could see at the end of the game they were starting to get it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 04:15 PM

Remember what Nancy said "Just say no to drugs", so please put the crack pipe down...

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 21, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Pescado - he's POed about how they won. That's what he said. He said glad we got the win but ticked off about how we got the win. "We need to put them away."

He looked ready to deck someone.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Chris Samuels reminds me of John Koffee from the Green Mile.

Posted by: TDawg | October 21, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

we were outgained 364-160

David Copperfield cannot pull bigger magic than this and get a win!

What a joke!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

good for him.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

to me - Daniels looked like he was saying as diplomatically as possible that the offense needs to help out.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

noone, anon--

You guys doubting me on the O Line? I can take it. But you'll see next Sunday. Buges gonna coach 'em up.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone on the O-line get injured? I know this might sound hollow but it will help to have the same O-line for two weeks in a row for the first time this year.

Posted by: charlie | October 21, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs just said Al was calling the shots and he was pleased with everything he did.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

TE is right about the offensive line - it takes time for line guys to play together well. Barring further injuries, the line play will improve with time.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

TE - add me to the doubters please. We won't be seeing much other than a good azzwhippin next Sunday.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Gave one away last week, stole one this week. The universe is back in balance.

Posted by: Karma | October 21, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

it will help to have the same O-line for two weeks in a row for the first time this year.


Posted by: charlie | October 21, 2007 04:26 PM

Charlie--Different O line next week Rabach will be bach. At least, le's hope so. It's okay. Buge's gonna coach 'em up.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Joe: "Jason. Jason. Jason did some good things. We probably should have taken some more shots downfield. But I. . . .Well everyone was laying it on the line everytime. We wanted to get some yards on runs."
Joe: "Al's calling the shots. And I think he called a great game."

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sfskin... That is why we will never take it to the next level (become a decent football team). Joe must go!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Even though Joe said at the beginning he was going to enjoy a victory cause "you have to enjoy every win" clearly he is not.

Again for whatever that is worth.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Re: O line. Buges can coach 'em up all he wants. The problem is they're not talented enough. Hard to overcome injuries like this. Prediction: 30-3 Pats (and yes, I love the 'Skins).

Posted by: Keithinator | October 21, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs won't give specifics but apparently Samuels was the recipient of a cheap shot of some sort and that's why he was angry on the sidelines during the game.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

fish--

Et tu? A doubter?

Maybe I'm a wee bit optimistic.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

This is my first ever post so have mercy.

First they won the game. At the end of the year all that matters is the how many you win not how you win it. However I will admit that there are some definate problems they need to fix if they are going to get more wins.

Offensive:
The offensive sucked.
- However when you are missing 3/5 of your offense line you can expect that to happen. Take the center, RG and RT off of New England and I imagine they will have trouble moving the ball (although since it is NE they will probably find a future Pro Bowler among their backups).
- Receivers continue to drop the ball, even Cooley dropped a first down pass. Hard to get the offense moving consistently when you drop third down passes.
- Play calling was very conservative. However, that may have been due to the offensive line problems and what the defense is playing. I did notice that Campbell was pressured often and when he did have time he had to check off.
Defense
-Defense played stellar and were the prime reason the Redskins won.
-However they need to control their swagger and not get arrogant. After the Skins went up 21-6, the defense was about to make the Cardinals go three in out. Instead Landry was called for a stupid penalty that lead to a first down. Later Fletcher gave them a first down by taunting. Aggressive play is one thing but stupid play can cost you games. If the Cards go three and out at this point the game is probably over.
Special Teams
-Teams are generally good but need some work.
-Can't afford to have Susihan miss a field goal each week. That three points was very important today.
-Onsite kick was pathetic. It looked like no one wanted to catch the ball. They were all waiting for someone else to step up.

However, as I said before a win is a win. Hopefully they can fix some of these problems before next week.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Rabach back should help some but we're playing the Patriots. The Patriots! Our offense and defense both have to have the best game of the year for us to even have a chance. But you never know. We did beat the Saints last year with a worse team at a time when they had one of the top offenses in the league.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Chris Samuels said #94 on the Cards spit in his face.

Posted by: TDawg | October 21, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Okay. I can't do this anymore. I have to go grade papers.

I'll take the win. 4-2! Quatro y dos!

Thanks for the BOGO! As usual had a great time up in here.

Posted by: sfskin | October 21, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I think, since just about everyone thinks the Pats will beat us, that MAYBE... just MAYBE, Al Saunders and co. will go all out with the downfield, risky plays. And MAYBE... just maybe, man boobs will run some blitzes.

Posted by: TDawg | October 21, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Lifetime fan,

Firsttime post? Welcome. Keep it up.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Pescado, the Saints and the Pats are too entirely different creatures. They'll not sleep on us. They'll put us to sleep by the end of 1st Qtr or mid 2nd Qtr.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

WTF is wrong with our SJK'ing offense. Run, run, incomplete, punt...that's our 2nd half strategy every game!!!My dim hopes to beat the pats are out the window!!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | October 21, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Mike Sellars (a little testy) said he doesn't call the plays, he's just out there doing his job.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Lifetime fan - You just added a little ray of sunshine in this whole victory with this statement. I had forgotten about this but you hit the nail on the head. Thank you!

"After the Skins went up 21-6, the defense was about to make the Cardinals go three in out. Instead Landry was called for a stupid penalty that lead to a first down. Later Fletcher gave them a first down by taunting. Aggressive play is one thing but stupid play can cost you games. If the Cards go three and out at this point the game is probably over."

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

how do you view the post game conferences on Redskins.com?

What happend in the lockeroom?
It sounded like Chris Samuels was telling reporters to break it up, sounded like chaos in a live interview....

What happened?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Mike Sellars (a little testy) said he doesn't call the plays, he's just out there doing his job.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 04:35 PM

I don't understand why he is test... he wasn't exactly meast this year. I still remember how he and portis got tackled by one person for a small gain if not a loss.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

If there was spitting - that's awful - and I hope #94 gets in as much trouble as ST did.

Lifetime fan - I liked your post. Well said.

Brian Mitchell, after hearng Sellers' comments, said that the players sound frustrated and that it needs to be addressed.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I meant this game not this year.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

No one on the O has a right to an attitude after the way they played. No one. They're a sorry lot.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Adrian Peterson is a beast. He's stomping all over the Cowgirlz. 7-7.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

This Peterson looks like a the real deal... although they are playing against a questionable defense.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Lifetime & Bigfish, I concurr. Off to bed two hour before the kids get up.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, almost forgot, we need to bring in some kickers this week. The bad thing is if we were to sign one wouldn't we have to cut someone which would hurt us depth wise, and cause us to have to think about putting Thomas on IR?!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | October 21, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Our o-line should contact State Farm, maybe they can get a job there.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse


Turning point of game?
We were up 14-0 and Jason throws bad pass from midfield they score on last play of half.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. We need a kicker.. Where's Novak?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

There won't be any blitzes against Brady. It will be Cover-2 and press coverage.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

The cow pukes found a young kicker... why can't we?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Because our coaching staff thinks Swissham was kicking his guts out and did not bring competition during camp... that's why.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys DRAFTED their kicker. It takes draft picks in the middle rounds to do that.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Comcast post game live - everyone seems to have calmed down and we're back to standard responses to everything.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Springs post game interview - says that Smoot pulled his hammy.

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

160 yards in an NFL game?
worst offense of the entire week of NFL games I am altogether certain.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 21, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I agree we need a new kicker.

More than just then just missed FGs short kick offs.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

quick hits:

- why do i feel like we lost?

- wierd Al is a joke

- with a depleted o line why continue to start plays, 4/6/8 yards behinf line of scrimmage?

- refs were a complete joke. I dont buy either of those 15 yarders on us quite frankly...in the sports bar i saw similar BS calls in like 3 other games...let them play..refs are collaring defenses across all games.

- you cannot leave the defense on the field that long, no matter how good.

- Who would have liked to see a few blitzes today?????

- Puchy Sucks at center, big time...Get Well casey!!!1

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

M&M I can pardon the short kickoffs, but missing 30 yarders is inexcusable.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray,

We won our most recent playoff victory the same way - 160 yards offense. The game plan looked almost remeniscent.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Not that it matters but I believe it was a 41 yarder not a 30 yarder. Campbell was sacked on third down, trying to throw downfield.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Mike Vanderjagt anyone?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Well I exempt Portis. He did score 2 TD's. He's great at short and goal.

*flashback to Giants game*

When I first started following the Skins I couldn't wait to see the halftime adjustments. This week's must have been "whatever you do in the 4th Q, do NOT move the chains even once".

Posted by: karalynn | October 21, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I didn't see the game. We won. But reading the comments is a bit depressing. Eh, later folks. Hope the Cowpukes lose.

Posted by: charlie | October 21, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

BTW since I brought this up I am not yet suggesting it is time to start running shuttle buses to the airport to pick up kickers I just see this as a potential major concern. So far a missed field goal has not cost them a game.
As for kickoffs, it would be nice to get them in the end zone but if the other team is starting inside the 30 I think that is good enough and I believe that was the case most of the time.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

more quick hits:

- Santana moss still unheard from....having a horrendous season

- take the handcuffs off JC... get him rolling out, making stuff happen, buying time for WRs

- With our second/third string o line why are we having them play on their heals???? the running game needs to be quick hits get line surging not setting up pitches!!!!! ATTACK!!!!!!

- Grilliams must be ready to fight Saunders

- Still, has horrible as this was...still big win, a W is a W

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

How is it possible the offense has gotten worse (regardless of the O line situation) But you know what they say, it's not whether you win or lose but HOW you play the game. Oh..I guess that doesn't really apply here.

Posted by: redskins8085 | October 21, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

A missed FG has not cost us a game yet but it's only a matter of time. Best to correct the problem now before it happens. If Swiss Ham would have made that kick then we wouldn't have been biting our nails at the end of the game. We would have been up by 5 and not 2.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I think we should. We can't wait till we lose one because of a miss field goal.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Well I exempt Portis. He did score 2 TD's. He's great at short and goal.

*flashback to Giants game*

When I first started following the Skins I couldn't wait to see the halftime adjustments. This week's must have been "whatever you do in the 4th Q, do NOT move the chains even once".

Posted by: karalynn | October 21, 2007 04:52 PM

Karalynn, wake up! He sucked today and for the most of the year save the first game. You should watch the Vikings game to see what a premier back looks like.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

We don't need to draft a kicker. But I personally have been screaming since the offseason to bring in competition for Swish.

I now don't believe we'll see it until he outright loses one for us.

Posted by: karalynn | October 21, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I've never kicked, but I played pickup football w/my friends a few weks ago and kicked a 40 yard field goal myself!!!you think I got a shot on our team?

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | October 21, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I'd draft a kicker in a heartbeat (if they can get a strong leg around the 4th or 5th yarder). Kickers will win or lose games for you so I think they are worth it.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jasno,

How 'bout that 4th quarter offense?!

I bet the Pats are shakin' in their boots.

The way the two teams are playing, why not just take a forfiet next week and be happy with no further injuries?

Posted by: Redskinrex | October 21, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

RockyTop, if you answer yes to this question then Gibbs may give you a shot:

Do you fight your guts out everytime you lose?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

As always....

F Anon posts

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

F Chris Larry

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Chris Larry likes poop.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Go Vikes!!!!

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

So you're telling me there's a chance?!?!? My answer: YES!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | October 21, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Since everyone likes to critisize coachs, I wonder which genius Cardinal coach called a trick play for the two point conversation when they had been moving the ball effective. Maybe we should have put ARE behind center at the goal line in the Giants game.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Sweet...F Romo

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

One of these Anon peeps has been putting out some decent stuff mixed with a little constructive criticism. Identify yourself.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

RockyTop, If I were you, I'd take my car to redskins park knock on Gibbs and Danny's door.. Tell them you'd fight your guts out if they will overpay you a ridiculous amount of money. Then, show them how to miss a 20 yard field goal. I think they'll hire you on the spot.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh... and F Chris Larry

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Run the ball.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Since everyone likes to critisize coachs, I wonder which genius Cardinal coach called a trick play for the two point conversation when they had been moving the ball effective. Maybe we should have put ARE behind center at the goal line in the Giants game.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 05:08 PM

Given that they've learned from our very own are you really that surprised that they made a bonehead decision during the 2 minute drill?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Why does everyone F Chris Larry? He's a good guy up here. CL - Here's a little love from me in a manly type of way (tipping my glass of brandy to CL).

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

One more thing. F Chris Larry.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

TY Bigfish!!!! I don't mind it when its funnin by normal posters, but this is some Anon guy just being a tool, no big thing I can take it...

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

joe gibbs needs to back to nascar.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Smoot is hurt....you guessed it Hamstring. What is going on?

F anon posters who say F CL.
F second halves.
F stupid penalties.
F Hamstring and Groin Injuries.
F NE Patriots.

Posted by: Skinz | October 21, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, he or she is a long time lurker. You don't F Chris Larry for nothing.

BTW - FedEx Field sucks. Why is it that every other game I watch has a louder crowd yet we seem to have the edge attendance wise?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

no other team/stadium can pump in artificial crowd noise like our boys at FedEx.

Posted by: smallfish | October 21, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

If smoot can't go next week and something happens w/spring's dad, we are in trouble!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | October 21, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

awesome play for the vikes

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I eat smallfish.

Go Vikes!!!!!!!!!!!

14-7 Vikes

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Romo was limping off the field!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | October 21, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

if they overturn this.......

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

thats what he gets for a lame trip/tackle

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Nice!

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Romo has a bad hammy.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Who moved Marvin Lewis' cheese?

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

MAY BE reaching the point of no return? I think it's quite obvious they've reached that if Rabach is out for an extended period of time. Fabini and Pucillo got lit up today, as I'm sure most of us thought they would.

Posted by: Colin | October 21, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Anon guy - Why not give yourself a name. If you're the same guy then you've been okay today in my book.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Romo on his 30th pass in the 1st half. So far so good. Why can't we do something like that?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Positive quick hits:

- The play of LBF...the dude was beast today, and unfairly flagged

- Shaun Springs played inspired football today.

- Another INT by Sean-Tay

- Great tackling by def

- Andre Carter is game every week...

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

So much for that drafted kicker for the Girlz.

GO VIKES!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Bigfish,
Not sure what you are implying. Romo has 30 passes and Dallas has 7 points and are behind. Not sure I would want this kind of offensive. I am old school and would rather win ugly then lose but have good stats.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

LF - Indeed that is true but right now he has more passing yards in the first half than we had total offensive yards today. I'll take the win any way we can get it but they need to take the chains off of Soup eventually and I don't see it happening with Gibbs at the helm.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs is a washed-up has been. his offense can't even score 3 td's in a game. what a bum. game's passed old man gibby by. Go 'Boys!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

if we lose by less than 20 to NE i consider it a win. our offense is as stinky as swamp ass

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Go 'Boys!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 05:51 PM

Yeah! 14-7 Vikings. Go Boys, right down the crapper.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

vikes offense sucks....how about just running AP????

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

wow! i thought that was the best game by JC. i thought he was awesome. please please take note that this team has no depth ANYWHERE!!!! and those o-lineman on the right side aren't NFL quality. it's pathetic!

AND for the first time i thought weird Al or whomever it was calling the game called a PERFECT game.

and again JC played awesome!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

BF - Not sure I agree. I think the coaches wanted to be extra careful this game due to the line problems (especially center). What do you think the blog would have been like if Campbell was sacked trying to go deep and fumbled or was hit and threw and interception. Or even worse suppose he had been hurt. The Cardinals were able to apply decent pressure in the 1st half and are not a terrible defense (number 15).

That being said, except for center the right side is not improving anytime soon so the coaching staff better adjust. Less then 200 yards offensive isn't going to cut it no matter how well the defense plays.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

AP is the only good thing the Vikes offense has. Their D looks good though.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I will enjoy the win this week.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 21, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

fellas, keep it positive.

in years past they'd have lost this game.

but they didn't.

they are 4-2. granted, will lots of improving to do.

arizona is not a bad team.

the defense looked great, minus those two stupid penalties.

they made big plays REPEATEDLY.

we have a young QB and a line that is banged up.

you take a win any swinging soul way you can get it.

chin up! beat the pats!

Posted by: the deaner | October 21, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

We can throw up probabilities all afternoon. What if he would have thrwon for 3 TD passes and no INT's? What if he would have thrown for 350 yards? We can speculate all we want but we won't find out what he can really do until someone calls the proper plays to give him a shot. Like I said before, I'll take the win any way we can get it but I have a feeling that next week we will either have to take the chains off and see what he can truly do or we will get blown out terribly. I'd rather get blown out while Soup is throwing his guts out than get blown out trying to run the ball 50 times while the Pats keep battering us with passing TD's.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs is a washed-up has been. his offense can't even score 3 td's in a game. what a bum. game's passed old man gibby by. Go 'Boys!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 05:51 PM

So we have a fake Boofer now?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Ahoy

Posted by: Old Spice Girl | October 21, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't think we'll beat the Patriots. Our strength is our defense, and the Patriots cheat by stealing our defensive signals. We're doomed, and the league should step in and give us the draft picks that they're taking from the Patriots.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

lifetime, yep! that's what i thought too. they were buying time for the o-line and it worked. and D knew this going in to the game. i had absolutely no problems with the play calling or any of it EXCEPT

that it is CERTAIN again that this coaching staff really really reallyl needs to spend a week working on their 2 minute drills. and that on-side kick is included in that. wow! what a pathetic bunch of untrained players that were out there.
pathetic pathetic pathetic preparation of 2 minute drills on that team! pathetic pathetic! no excuses!

jason et jason, please please someone has to ask gibbs this question...what is up with the end of half, end of game drills????? PATHETIC!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Go 'Boys!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 05:51 PM

Yeah! 14-7 Vikings. Go Boys, right down the crapper.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 05:53 PM


What's that score again now fishy?

Posted by: Boofer | October 21, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

dealer are you serious??

JC played OK, no beef there..

but Weird Al called a good game?????? They asked this scrub oline to hold blocks forever with the pitch backs, the delays, the side to side crap, the slants...not to mention NOT getting JC into rollouts and other ways into space, how come no shot gun?

I dont see it..

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Boofer | October 21, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Check out number 4. It explains how I got my name.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boofer

Posted by: Boofer | October 21, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

F gibbs..Try having 2 game plans ass ho%% 1 for first half, and 1 for second half when every one figures us out.. What a bum he is this yr..Try to unleash Soups

Posted by: OC Skins | October 21, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Chris Larry,
I noticed the limited use of shotgun also. Maybe they didn't feel as comfortable using it with Pucillo in there. Not sure about rollouts, the Cardinal defensive ends were getting good up field pressure

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

pffft

Posted by: Boofer | October 21, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

boooooof

Posted by: Sorry, I thought no one would hear that | October 21, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

It's my faith in the good lord and my love of nascar that will help this team make great strides and fight their guts out.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 21, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

oh for craps sake...the vikings suck!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Go 'Boys!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 05:51 PM

Yeah! 14-7 Vikings. Go Boys, right down the crapper.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 05:53 PM

Fishy, can you fill me in on the score of the cowboys/vikings game? my tv has gone out. who's winning?

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nfl.com/probowl

Please go vote for all your favorite Skins players.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

boooof

21-14 suckers!

Posted by: Boofer | October 21, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

boooof

6-1 BABY!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Fake BOOFER - It's 21-14 Cowgirlz because of a blocked FG. Look out for an upset. Girlz got lucky. Should be 17-14 Vikes.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think that Wade Phillips and Rush Limbaugh look like long lost twins. Or maybe Wade looks more like Newt Gingrich.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly | October 21, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

so Boofer has a loose anus?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Why dosent Gibbs summon Jesus to play right gaurd and running back, seems he has more faith in them than Soups

Posted by: OC Skins | October 21, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Fake BOOFER - It's 21-14 Cowgirlz because of a blocked FG. Look out for an upset. Girlz got lucky. Should be 17-14 Vikes.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 06:29 PM
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Yeah fishy and the deadskins should've beaten the stinky cardinals by more than 2. shoulda, coulda, woulda. boo-yah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Two Boofers here?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

maybe you guys know more or maybe I'm just thankful that I lived to see this game after that horrible virgin America flight but I thought the coaches knew what they had and what they could get away with today

Yes for a bit I did think let jc do his thing but the played awesome except for that one drive where they played undicipline/extra enthused

Btw stay away from virgin america
more on that late maybe

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 6:33 PM | Report abuse

A barely win against the Cardinals is better than a barely win against the Bills. Good for your Cowgirlz that we don't have to rely on the BCS system - huh?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that sucked worse then the offense was Frost. soon as d-bag jasno gave him the thumbs up hes sucked worse then my girlfriend.

Posted by: Ghost of Gibbs '91 | October 21, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Watching Jets and girlz games....

The reffing today in all games i have watched has been abysmal....its as if they areb against defenses...joke

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

A barely win against the Cardinals is better than a barely win against the Bills. Good for your Cowgirlz that we don't have to rely on the BCS system - huh?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 06:34 PM
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Good for your deadskins that old man gibby knows how to make 2nd half adjustments. oh wait, he doesn't. good luck with all of that.

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey BOOF - How's your 2nd half going so far?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I wear an adult diaper.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

If you search for the opponent's blog chat to talk trash during your favorite team's game, then you are a d-bag.

King Card is a major D-Bag.

Posted by: King Card: D-Bag | October 21, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Well thats ok then.

Posted by: Ghost of Gibbs '91 | October 21, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Hey BOOF - How's your 2nd half going so far?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 06:42 PM

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THINGS ARE GOING GREAT FISHY. LOOKS LIKE MY BOYS WILL SCORE AGAIN.

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Looking better right now - huh? Your not beating the Vikes. The Vikes are beating themselves.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

How did fake bigfish know about my adult diapers? I'm scared.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

a wins, a win isn't it smelly fishy?

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is Gibbs all chipper after this win..F that...It was a loss by the Cards..Have some pride Gibbs, cuss out that offense Make them know that was unacceptable

Posted by: OC Skins | October 21, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

F stealing names, and F homophobic crap...

ocskin, get real..no coach is going to blast their team to the press after a win...you dont what happens in the locker room...who cares about the doublespeak at pressers??

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Why shouldn't Gibbs be somewhat chipper? His team is 4-2 in a conference that is very weak!

Posted by: Cindy | October 21, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to give props to Rock. He may not be Hester but he makes things happen. I hope he is not seriously hurt we need him to return kicks and make plays on Special Teams. I bet he would have made an effort to catch the onside kick.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

i meant to say "the d played awesome...except for one drive 3rd/4th quarter"

those 3 penalties were pretty stupid.

gibbs is chipper cuz his plan worked. he was able to rest his injured players and still won the game.

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I second that Cindy. What can you expect from your offense if most of the line is hurt? I say they're doing pretty darn good as far as their record goes considering the o-line injuries that they have.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

boooof

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the compliment, Lifetime Fan. Don't forget to go buy your dvd copy of Walking Tall. Also don't forget to go see my latest movie, "The Game Plan," in theaters now.

Also, Lifetime fan, what is your favorite tv show on the Lifetime network? I only ask because you're a fan of the network.

Posted by: The Rock | October 21, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BOOFER | October 21, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

T-Jack sucks for the vikings....wow...if they had a journeymen QB they'd have a chance to win this......

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

That is the longest link that I have ever seen.

Thank you Boofer.

Posted by: Confused in Portland | October 21, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

If they still had Brad Johnson this would be a win.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Oh, jokes, I get jokes. Actually that was pretty astute. I wish the Dallas game would hurry up and end, I get tired switching the channel back and forth.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

love the bears

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Bears just went up over the Eaglets with seconds to go in the game.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

This team is a collection of soft posers.

The coaching staff is a collection of thieves - stealing DS's money.

What a sad sack of excrement we have on our hands.

Blood-letting in Foxboro.

Many tears.

Get your laundry ready.

Posted by: GAD | October 21, 2007 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Redskins should be embarrased.

Get the ball to Cooley.


in the 4th quarter Williams should have started to blitz. The cards were finding the wholes in the defense.

Skins should have thrown the ball downfield. What did the Cards have Champ Bailey and Dion Sanders back there or what!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Bears - 19
Eaglets - 16

final

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

F the Girlz!

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

You guys all are rediculas..I want a win and also to see offensive improvement, not to regress like we did, so what if our line is weak, get more than 150 yards of Offense..I dont know what to say except that this is a dissapointing win by Gibbs..UNLEASH the can of soup

Posted by: OC Skins | October 21, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

This is 4 years into Gibbs offense and we get this??????????????

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

well I think it is safe to say...I'm going to do something otyher than watch the Skins play the Pats....

I don't think I want to put myself through that

Posted by: Leevi | October 21, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line is this guys....no matter how much we want it or how much we believe or who the coach is or that we are 4 & 2...no matter what...This team is not very good

Posted by: Leevi | October 21, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Im not alone in thinking this..You guys are!!!!!


mriley0223 wrote:
This is the worst. How we could give up 19 points with three turnovers? And what with the offense? Gibbs???????????????
10/21/2007 7:07:24 PM
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2greekdc wrote:
If the Skins don't have the confidence in JC to make plays on offense, they will be toast the rest of the season.

Next week - Pats 56 - Skins 0.
10/21/2007 6:52:10 PM
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grich13919 wrote:
How many passes did the Skins throw past 10 yards? I only remember 2 or 3. How many times to they throw it short of 1st down yardage. This is same dink and dunk team that Brunell used to run and its hard to watch even when they win. Is it the receivers who cant get open or the coaches who dont want to risk opening it up. We're also seeing what happens to the run when the team isn't a risk to go down field. This doesn't help an already banged up Oline.
10/21/2007 6:45:06 PM
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bfjam wrote:
With this defense, this team could be very good. The offense needs to help out though. Starting to really think Jason Campbell is goonna be great.
10/21/2007 6:37:32 PM
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hparker48 wrote:
An undeserved win which,as a fan, I will take. It is a shame that the Redskin defense, which plays with heart and intensity, is saddled with such an inept offense. A few second half first downs is all they needed to provide.
10/21/2007 6:21:17 PM
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stephenbordner1 wrote:
Sloppy! Sloppy! Sloppy! And there was Joe an example of just what the problem is. "I'm so proud of out boys." what wold Parcells say, Jimmy Johnson ,Vince! I'm not sure but I think it would be something like " we were lucky to win and we'll take it but if some of the guys on this time don't pick it up and stop making stupid penalties they'll be playing for another team next week. Come on Joe, run the d---- team. That's OK next week they are going to r into the eye of monster! They are going to lose and lose bad. And after NE b==== slaps them for 4 quarters, you know what they will do? Go back to their million dollar homes, play a little Madden 08 and wonder what kind of new 59 thousand bling they are going to buy. What they wouldn't do is look inside and realize they are stealing the money they are malkng and that a Pop Warner team wouldn't make the mistakes they make . Thats't ok I'm sure buying thier third new Hummer will make them feel better. Hail to the Millionaire Skins!

Posted by: OC Skins | October 21, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Other than Campbell and Cooley, we can scratch the entire offense and start from scratch. 4-2 is nice but this offense is gonna kill us over the long haul.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

We can all say we won't watch next week's game and how bad it's gonna be... and in a couple of days the eternal optimism that defines a Redskin fan will emerge and we'll all tune in and really really believe that we can win, we can do it, any given Sunday...

Posted by: mmok | October 21, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Can the Redskins just forfeit next week and rest their injured players?

I'm serious here.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I still think Portis isn't very good. I got a couple 1-yard TD's, big deal. I just can't get behind him. At least he didn't fumble this week.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Guess what most teams do when their o-line is not so good, roll the quarter back out! Guess what a mobile QB like Campbell could do if he was allowed to roll out! That's right, either hit the open man or pull the ball down and run. Freaking bad play calling!

Posted by: grimey1972 | October 21, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

According to most here, we did very well on offense and should be really happy to have this great win

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I can't argue with grimy. I would have liked to have seen a little more flavor in the offense. I know this is Joe Gibbs football, but let our athletes have a chance to make a big play for cryin' out loud.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Double Move with a sprained knee. Smoot with a Hammy. I may watch next week but I will fully be expecting a big loss.

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Is King Card around.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Ok, here's our only chance: This is a potnetial "trap game" for NE. The 'Skins don't play into any of their season in any way whatsoever so they could already bee looking ahead to the following week'd opponent.....


Indianapolis.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I am a lifelong Redskins fan, but here's my prediction...

Patriots 38 Redskins 6

Posted by: sicwidit | October 21, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

King Card is eating crow. Or drinking Old Crow. I bet he changes his name.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

All I want is for the Tarantula to knock the piss out of Moss.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I think I'm going to jump ship and become a Pats fans. Those guys treat their fans' hearts right.

John from Herndon must be dead.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, all the dinged up starters should rest in Week 8. Just consider it a bye week.

With the upcoming loss, the 'Skins will be 4-3 and 2 behind the Gints, who will be 6-2 after beating the 'Fins, and Dallas (6-1; bye).

By the way, I was pleased to see the Iggles found a way to blow their lead against the Bears (take note JLC, it happens to everyone...Minnesota also blew their lead.)

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs is a flippin idiot retard dummy.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Take the win. last year we had one of the top OL of the league. Today we had 1 player left from that line. They showed all the changes on the line from this season I think I counted 9, and they did not mention how Samuels was out for the preseason and hurt himself today and was out for part of the time this game.

We would be able to run the ball if this was not the JV line.

When we have the Hogs and the Dirt Bags we are going to run for 150. Today we had the play-do boys*.

*Okay, this is an attempt on a play on words, dough boys was a term used for US infantry in WW1, when we fought in the trenches. Play-Do is a soft maliable childs toy similar to clay.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Also for the COHs out there Moss is still not 100 percent. We put in extra tight ends and tried to run and go off play action.

We did not have a ton of options today.

Next week Kendall, Wade, Moss should be better and we should have or center back.

NE does not have a 'top flight' defense the last two week proved that.

Scores should be 17-24 range for both teams.

Who knows who the winner will be.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for one of these always-negative 'Skins fans to curse the team for getting rid of Kenny Watson.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

It will be clear if the 'Skins are prepard to play next week. If they run even one play on offense with more then 3 seconds remaining on the game clock - they're f-ing retards. I want to see ever effort to keep the NE offense off the field for every possible second.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh and I am watching next week. Yes the Pat's are good but someone has to beat them. Why not us? Also the Pat's played 1 winning team so far, Dallas. The Redskins will be the best D that NE has faced to date.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

The O-Line looks like they don't have a clue. They got manhandled today.

Posted by: sicwidit | October 21, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Okay, who gets the game ball on defense in today's win?

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

L O N D O N C A L L I N G

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

London Fletcher. Do you even need to ask?

Posted by: bigfish | October 21, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Ha Ha. Yeah The Tower of London was a beast.

I just saw Gibbs indicate that Fletch was cheering on the fans, not taunting the Cards side line.

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I think that penelty on LL was BS by the way, there was no way he could see if the catch was made.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, dumb question, bigfish.

I retract it.

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

He could be NFC defensive player of the week, easily. If not the NFL player if the week.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

I thing the wide outs for the cards can pass better than the QBs for the Vikings.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Taunting with in reason, should be re-legalized too, Unless its a profain gesture or spitting trash talking is part of the game.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey even I threw 4 TD passes today. Campbell sucks!

Posted by: Sage Rosenfels | October 21, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

About the LL personal foul..

LL lead with his helmet and elbow into a prone player. Even if the receiver had caught the ball, he was laying down on the ground.

Run up and tap him and avoid a stupid penalty.

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Too many flags through the game. Not to mention I wonder about that timeout at the end of the 1st half. I have alwayse wondered if the refs in the NFL are dirty.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Anybody know why Samuels was pissed off on the sidelines talking to Gibbs/Buges?

In the presser, Gibbs was vague about what the Cards tries to do to Samuels.

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

It did not seem like the Cards could make a normal drive no 4th down, no turnovers, no 3rd down penalties, no prevent defense.

How can we make things so hard on our selves.

Should have been up 17-0 at half time.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was spitting.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Ok, the win was beyond UGLY....and the playcalling was far too conservative. However, in trying to find a silver lining....(1) we won (2)I think the conservative game plan was due to the O line problems...since they practiced all week with new guys in different positions (3)the D was stellar in the first half (4) hopefully Rabach will be back next week and Wade and Kendall healed and (5) the coaches MUST open up the offense and let Jason throw the ball next weekend agains the Pats. What have they got to lose? The Pats have been embarrassing every team....so why not give it try?

Posted by: Lisa | October 21, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

35332...

The reporters asked Gibbs about the time out at the end of the first half.


Gibbs said that Fletcher called the time out because he didn't like the defensive alignment.

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Blogging hurt this morning...well, hurt beyond my de riguer hangover. I dislocated my pinky playing football yesterday. It was hanging there 90 degrees upwards. VERY COOL. I snapped it back in and caught the next pass for a TD. Hurts like a motherSJK right now, though...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 21, 2007 01:13 PM


I did the same to mine about a month and a half ago playing basketball. Still don't have full movement, might have to see a physio or something.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Evenin' Gents:

I'm settling in with a full six pack of Full Sail's Winter Ale: Wassail, which features great, and crisp, NW hops and a heart warming 7% ABV.

Now let a night full of great sports unfold...

The Tribe winning and the Steelers losing would just be the final compliment to a great Fall weekend.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | October 21, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

SC
It may have to do with that sholder injury he had. I know that Larry Michaels mentioned that Samuels came out due to sholder problems for a while.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't know the point of games plans for this team.

They don't pay us no mind (for good reason) and no matter what the game plan is, the skins go to the last few plays of the game.

I can't believe people think we are going to get blown out by any team this year.

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Stumptown going with the Football, me I am drinkin Saranac, an excelent Brew from upsate NY and watching Game 7.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Woulda could shoulda should be the name of this blog

"if we'd have scored there......
"if this and this would've happened we'd be 6-10
"if only carlos rogers would've held on to that ball....

blah, blah, blah

wah, wah, wah

That was a terrible game between 2 below-average things.

The difference between the Cowboys and every other team in the NFC is ridiculous

I don't know what the infatuation is with Jason Campbell---that guy is average at best and will never be more than that. He is like a black version of Brian Griese or David Carr or Byron Leftwich. He has only thrown 2 TDs to WRs and that shows how limited he is as a QB. He can't even go through all of his reads and always just has to dump it to the TE or FB. On the rare occasion that grandpa whiskers gibbs lets him throw deep he overthrow the reciever.

But at least he can throw 2 balls and make them hit each other in mid-air. That is SO important and really helps the team win games.HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Reality | October 21, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I am 12.

Posted by: Reality | October 21, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

He is a "black version" of Byron Leftwich??

You are a dumb%$*

Posted by: SCSkins | October 21, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell is a black version of Byron Leftwich?


Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell is a black version Obama.

He he he

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

yeah i forgot leftwich is black....my point is that campbewll is an average player

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Fake Boofer sounds a lot like King Card.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

King CARD I am calling you out!!!!

Are you working on a song with Lloyd?

Posted by: M&M | October 21, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

My daddy is my uncle.

Posted by: Reality | October 21, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The 'Skins will win next week....somehow.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 21, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

The only way we win is if the Pats don't show up.

Posted by: Get Real | October 21, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Can you believe we got rid of Kenny Watson?! That guy ran for a buck thirty today.Wouldn't that be nice right around now!

Posted by: We Won? | October 21, 2007 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I forgot that Leftwitch was a boy, and that football players wear cloths and that 12 year olds no nothing.

Posted by: 35332 | October 21, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

special teams is the reason we won this game, and also the reason we almost lost it....

if we didnt block that extra point, they woulda never gone for 2 at the end, and we would have likely gone into overtime (and lost, cause we had no momentum at all)
if Swiss-ham had made the freakin FG, none of that would have mattered, cause AZ would have needed a TD to win.

all in all, we need a new kicker

Posted by: kman | October 21, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

okay...i'm gonna complain cuz Virgin America (VA) is a sponsor of wapo up here and this is where i was lured into buying/visiting their site...

that fcking "state of the art" entertainment center is BULL shti! it's crap! there was a bunch of us wanting to atleast watch ESPN to get the sawx scores. No ESPN, No Live TV at all!!!

and only water and soda is for free. there is NO service. the flight attendants come only once on a 6 hour flight to give you drinks or you have to buy snacks. that is actually worse than UA, US air, American, United.

and the captain didn't talk to anyone during that herky jerky 2 hours. no one informed the common folks (first time turbulent flyers who were freakin out) that "it's the high winds"...and it will last this long or that long...

anyways...stay away from VA unless you like having 3 seats to yourself like i did. unless they change real fast this branson experiment aint gonna last long especially with jet blue and southwest around!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

yep kman, skins were up by 15 and could've been up by more going into the 4th with D playing well...

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

also...i don't think they need a new kicker...he just needs to get off his bad streak but the skins aren't scoring enough for him to do that...

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, today was a hard game to watch. It was even harder to be present for.

I was talking to a guy a couple of seats down from me and I told him that I hate games like the one today because you can just feel how off kilter the offense was, and you knew they would never get anything really going. He agreed. We both said we were just waiting for the most cringe-worthy play of the week to come, and 20 seconds later came the deflection and pick. Grrrrr.....

And, am I the only one who hates the crowd at FedEx? I *hate* that the crowd starts chanting "Let's Go, Redskins!" while the offense is on the field. It's like they don't understand they are at a football game and not a basketball game.

I *hate* the fact that those idiots who
play music seem to want to repeatedly play the Gary Glitter song to the chant of "Heeeeeey, You Suck!" while the outcome of the game is still very much in doubt.

I *hate* it that today's crowd was so damn stupid that they started heading for the exits when L2 caught the ball after the 2 point conversion attempt and didn't realize that an onside kick would be forthcoming.

Please forgive me for turning this into a Ricky Bobby kind of post, but I've been at home drinking wine and listening to old Stevie Wonder music for the past 4 hours to calm down and decompress after that game. Just stress after stress after stress.

That said, I'm happy about the win. It was ugly, and not truly deserved given how badly the offense was, but it makes up for one of the 2 games we have in the loss column that probably shouldn't be there.

I'm also happy that our boy, The Reaper, is leading the league in INTs so far this season. His pro-bowl selection this year will be well deserved.

I'm happy that we got London Fletcher in the off-season (with the game he had, I would have really looked like a genius -- or a psychic -- if I'd worn my 59 jersey today).

I'm happy that we got Andre Carter last season, with sack #5 for the season at a crucial time.

I'm grateful that the same wind that blew off Suisie's FG attempt earlier in the game blew Rackers' off to the same spot in Hades. My seats are at that end of the stadium, and each time I felt the wind pick up once the ball had been kicked.

It was a funky win, but sweet just the same. Hail to 'em. :-)

Posted by: JustMe | October 21, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Woohoo!!

ZERO FUMBLES!

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

FYI, at the Detroit game, the same funky wind was blowing at that end of the stadium when Suishie missed the FG. I felt the wind and knew he was going to miss it as soon as it left his foot. He probably needs to be given more time to practice with the winds that blow in the stadium.

Posted by: JustMe | October 21, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm really surprised we didn't try to go deep more often, especially with the way Vinny beat them deep last week. I thought we'd at least test them a bit.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I have a question. As a team, are we over-achieving or under-achieving?

I think we're a better team than the way we have been playing, and that it's not beyond the realms of possibilty for us to fix things. Which I guess is a vote for under-achieving.

I also think that we haven't been as good as a 4-2 record would have you think, which is a vote for over-achieving.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

kost,

I heard Weird Al on one of the local radio stations admit after the game that they made the game plan very conservative due to the state of the Oline. I don't know that I agree with that approach, but by sheer dumb luck it resulted in a win.

We can only hope that today's game will not be reinforcement for that kind of thinking in future games. I have a strange feeling, though, that St. Joe will feel validated. :-(

Posted by: JustMe | October 21, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

F Reality.....what a mega-dildo "Black lefwich" take that rascist moron talk outta here you piece of trash.....

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Don't be mad at me. My mama is my sister. What do you expect?

Posted by: Reality | October 21, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

The conservative approach was ridiculous.....The exact opposite way to game plan this game. Bring the attack to them, move campbell, open up the mid-range middle...

I have said it all day, with a scrub line..ATTACK...don't force on their heels with pitches and slow developing plays...let them get the smash mouth out..

for two weeks we have been starting running plays 5-10 yards behind line of scrImmage....RETARDED! Hit them hardd in the mouth fast...notice the few times we did that we picked up yards...these guys cant hold blocks long enough for the slow developing read and react running plays...

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Arizona is a good NFC team and they were desperate for a win (seems like every team we play is coming in with their season on the line: Eagles, Giants, Packers, Cards).

But the truth of the matter is, the Cards were LUCKY to be in the game at all.
They got a lucky 'bat' of the ball before halftime (on the Campbell INT)... and it still took a 4th down conversion with 0 on the clock to score a TD against us.
Halftime score very easily could have been 17-0.

If Rock doesn't get hurt DURING the 2nd half kick off return, he goes all the way and we're up 24-0.

If the Refs don't call our D for 15-yard personal fouls to extend the Cards' drive TWICE, it's not even close in the 4th qtr.

So, yet again, another unlucky game for the Skins. This time we end up with a W. And really, that's all that matters.

Hail to the Redskins. Hail VICTORY!

Posted by: The Truth of the Matter | October 21, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, I just don't see why it would be to difficult to play two tight ends, keep everyone in to block, and send Santana deep.

It will be interesting to see how the week pans out, I get the impression Grilliams is becomming increasingly frustrated with the lack of offensive production. It's funny though, because when he was Head Coach at Buffalo, he was known for being ultra conservative himself.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Truth of the Matter

You're living in a dream world. The Redskins were lucky to win the game. There's no way you can have the statistics that the Cards had and the statistics that the Skins had and win the game without a luck injection the size of Pamela Anderson's bubes.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

kost--It isn't just Grilliams. Everyone's frustrated with the lack of offense. Can you imagine how Mr. Snyder feels? But how are you going to have any offense when you're missing three starters from your O line and your receivers are duds?

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I didn't get to watch any of the game until the very bitter end. I drove home from work like a maniac, ran in the house, turned my kid's Thomas The Tank Engine video off, and almost had a heart attack with that field goal. If that kick goes in, we go into a tailspin, never to recover.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

"I have a question. As a team, are we over-achieving or under-achieving?"-Kost

Kost, I think this team chronically play up or down to its competition. I understand that this wasn't the Cardinals of old, but this team scares the crap out of me. Okay, I admit, if it's Norvell on the sideline, the kick goes in.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Well done to King Card for hanging around during the game. I thought his posts were quite funny.

Just reading that Carlos Rogers (knee) and Smoot (Hamstring) sustained injuries in the game. Great. I guess with his father's health issues, Springs is always going to be a possibility to miss as well.

The prospect of facing New England without our top 3 CB's doesn't sound too tasty to me.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Gawd baseball is boring. Somebody wake me during the bottom of the 9th in game 7 of the World Series.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

kost--

I'm with you on King Card. Guy had a lot of class, even after his team somehow lost.

Doesn't much matter who we have on D next weekend. Without an O to keep the D off the field, it's going to be a blowout.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 21, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

kost,

If Grilliams is frustrated, he's hiding it. But, more importantly than him, even some of the offensive players are frustrated and openly acknowledging that the D won this game for the team and that they hope to be able to uphold their end of the bargain in the near future.

Honestly, they need to blow up at St. Joe and tell him they're not doing this crap any longer. It makes the players and the coaches on that side of the ball look completely incompetent. I know that some don't believe that Coach Gibbs is to blame, but I just can't believe that 1) the players have forgotten how to play and 2) Saunders has forgotten how to effectively and aggressively run an offense in the span of a year.

Actually, if I was "Mr" Snyder, I'd sit him down and tell him to find something to occupy himself with while Saunders does what he is being paid a crapload of money to do. I love and appreciate what Coach Gibbs did for the old Skins, but at this point I can't believe he's not the one killing the current Skins team.

Posted by: JustMe | October 21, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, I think Gibbs said after the game that Wierd Al called the whole game, and that he thought he called a good one.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, totally agree on the FedEx crowd. I've been to 3 games in my life (sounds like you've been to more) and the "You Suck" song is lame and in questionable taste/timing. The Giants games this year, everyone left before we got to the 1 yard line. We still lost, but they didn't even see the worst part (they're probably better off for it).

Either way, this game was stressful. No amount of Stevie Wonder could calm my nerves. A win is a win is a win. Ick.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

te - I agree that the injuries to the line has played a major part in all this, and to be honest, I think they've done a really good job. But it's not the only problem, there's iffy play-calling, players not producing, bonehead mistakes, and poor time management. It all adds up.

Here's an example, how do you run out of bounds when you're trying to run the clock down? That play there cost us, if he stays in bounds, the Cards don't end up with enough time to attempt the FG.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I just have to say "edible undies" before the laptop battery dies.

4-2.

Hail!!

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, I think Gibbs said after the game that Wierd Al called the whole game, and that he thought he called a good one.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:20 PM


But I'm sure Gibbs had a major say in wanting the gameplan so conservative.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I guess one of the good things is that we now have 10 games to get 4-12 to change his handle! Haha

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Just Me
That would be great, the team is 4-2 and one game out of the Division lead and you want a mutiny. Maybe Snyder should fire Gibbs like he did Turner (that worked out real well, I believe the team lost the remaining games even they they had a playoff shot). By the way which offensive players should stand up to the coach, the lineman who can't seem to block, the receivers who drop the ball, or the running back who fumbles. Why don't we wait until the team actually has a losing record before we blow things up.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I think if we can get at least 2 of our 3 CB's to play next weekend, we'll surprise some folks. Not saying I think we'll win, but I think it'll be closer than most expect. As Pulldownclaw said, we tend to play up or down to the competition. I don't think NE has much of a Run game, and teams have been able to score on them, so I think we end up going down by about 10.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

These guys aren't giving me much to work with. Geez, two horrid, charisma-sapping turdballs in a row. At least this one we winkle out a W.

Hopefully there's at least a compelling story line up in Mount Olympus, I mean Foxboro.

Posted by: farstriker | October 21, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I didn't get to watch the game, but why in the wide wide world of sports did Sellers have more carries than Betts? Short yardage? I love Iron Mike, but I'm not so sure about giving him more carries in regular situations...

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I didn't get to watch the game, but why in the wide wide world of sports did Sellers have more carries than Betts? Short yardage? I love Iron Mike, but I'm not so sure about giving him more carries in regular situations...

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Blaming the double post on my Silver Surfer underoos...

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | October 21, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

So I'll put on my amateur strategist hat.

WTF good does Al do? All I really see on offense is almosts, out-of-syncs, weird ideas, clock problems when he and Joe huddle, and above all, inconsistency, inconsistency, inconsistency. There's no f'ing thematic consistency!

So here's my modest proposal:

1. Let Al game out the plays ahead of time. Then leave him in DC. Give Jason full play-calling responsibility. F all the idiotic time-outs that actually stop or rhythm and only help the D.

2. Simplify the O schemes--fewer subs; run most plays with the men you've got in your base package.

3. Quicken the rhythm. Routinely snap the ball with 20 seconds--put immense pressure on the opposing D. Grind them down, make them panic.

4. Let Jason show his smarts. In all seriousness, how could he call a worse game than Al?

5. At the very least, give it a try during the Pats game. We're likely to lose anyway. I've got a feeling that Soups has a real feel for the game. Let's see if we've got another Peyton.

6. No more frigging wireless anxiety. It keeps going out anyway.

-----------------------------

You've gotta believe NO ONE has confidence in Al anymore. Too many woulda-coulda-shoulda's. For whatever reason, the fit is not good. He's book smart but game dumb, at least in DC.

So let Al prep the game plan, then let's roll the years back and let Jason call the game on the field.

Now that would be a sight to see!

Posted by: farstriker | October 21, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

As soon as my heart starts beating again, I'll give a hearty HAIL TO THE REDSKINS.

We had over a dozen Skins fans at the On Deck sports bar for this latest installment of cliffhanger football theater. That was cool. The medical crises which befell us at the end of the game (we can't get a first down! we give it back! they get a TD! failed 2-pointer! onside kick! they recover! they drive at will! Rackers kicks for the win...) were not cool.

Big, big welcome to Lifetime Fan. Also karalynn, The Deaner, anybody else I missed. Great hearing new voices up here. Helps counterbalance the never-ending influx of dopes, trolls and chooches.

Tip of the hat to King Card for being such a good sport about the whole thing.

Awful game. Awful offense. But we are 4-2. 4 and freakin' 2! If we go 1-1 on the road against the AFC East the next two weeks, we'll be 5-3 at the halfway point! Who'd'a thunk it?

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm in the minority here and may even be alone in this opinion but I don't think the offense was as bad as everyone is saying on here.

We had the first drive in the 2nd half stop in a missed FG and the second drive was a very nice TD drive which took 6 minutes. They then had a 6 minute drive that ended with a TD 8 secs into the 4th. We went three and out, our first bad drive of the half and they then had a 5 minute drive that ended in no score.

We went back and forth and back with 3 and outs and they then scored with 21 secs left. We had 3 three and outs in the 2nd half. As much praise as the defense is getting, AZ only went 3 and out 2 times.

They also had the ball for 9mins 24secs longer in the whole game. As good as the defense played, it truly was a bend but don't break game. This was good for a win and something G. Williams said postgame was what they were trying to do but it didn't allow the offense a chance to get in a rhythem, especially when at one point in the 2nd half we ran 3 plays in 16 minutes.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | October 21, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

On the way to the sports bar this morning, I heard one of the ESPN radio pre-game guys rattling off the litany of O line problems the Rams have endured this season. I can't remember it all, but it was something like "they've played four different guys at left tackle, two guys at left guard, three centers..."

The Rams are 0-7. Given all we've endured on our O line, the single most important unit on the team, our record should be in that neighborhood. But it isn't. We're 4-2. 4-2! I have to keep repeating it, because I can't really believe it.

Cardiac kids, this team and these coaches. It's gonna be a long season -- especially this next week, with everyone dreading the Cheatriots -- but it sure has been fun.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Deep Breaths everyone.
Not a good game all around. But the team broke the 20 pt. barrier and kept the Cards below 20. In a couple of weeks, we'll either have an idea that the o-line is coming around again, or that the injury bug has spelled the difference between the playoffs and the upper first-round.
So you go back and switch the L at Lambeau with the W at FedEx... does that make you feel any better?
We're a 4-2 team that looks to deserve to be... about 4-2.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 21, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

All due respect to you for defending the offense, Guru, check out the drive chart...

We have GOT to be able to keep drives moving and eat clock, especially when protecting a lead in the second half. We just have to do that, and we sure as heck didn't do it today.

Again, ahem, Hail! I still believe! Just wish it were a little bit easier...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"Any team can come back and beat you at the end of the game if you give them the amount of chances we gave those guys," Redskins cornerback Fred Smoot said. "Put it like this: We're lucky to get out of here with a victory."

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Lifetime,

This team might be 4-2, but where is it going with no offense, frustrated players, and probably a frustrated OC (we're not even going to get into how the DC and defensive players feel about how things are going for this team, offensively)? I'm not suggesting that the team be blown up, but I certainly believe that the players and coaches need to air things out so that they can figure what this team wants to be offensively, and determine how to get there.

If Coach Gibbs wants to run the offense, he needs to run it. If he wants Saunders to run it, he needs to step back and let him do it -- without interference. But, I can't help but feel that this schizophrenic struggle to find an identity every week is, in part, responsible for the the lackluster play of some of the players. When you have players saying, "I don't call plays, I just do what they tell me," something needs to addressed, no matter what the record says. And frankly, I don't care who grows the stones to stand up to the coach. It could be the red snapper for all I care. I'd just like to see the frustration addressed and ameliorated before the season is lost.

Posted by: JustMe | October 21, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, cload. I'm pretty thrilled with 4-2 given how poorly we've played.

I've been repping Joseph Aloysius Bugel to death up here for weeks now... when I see that maniacal gleam in his eye that I saw again today, I'm reminded that so much of our season is in his gnarled, leathery hands. He can make O line lemonade out of these backup lemons. Yes, he can.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

A few questions:

1) Will we ever blitz again? Sure, we've had some success with Perpetual Cover II, but against a team with a good O-line and veteran quarterback with time, all the speed in the world in the backfield doesn't help you. We don't have the bull rush & studs we need to play a 4-man rush EVERY PLAY and teams have caught on to us after using it for three weeks. We gave a one-armed, old-man gimp with no sure back-ups all day to tear us apart. Why not go after him... at all? Unimaginative, predictable defensive plan. Cost: 19 points.

2) Campbell must learn to throw to or beyond the 1st down line on 3rd down. Full stop. Going backwards and/or sideways on screens an/or end-rounds and/or draws doesn't cut it. Cost: Speculative.

3) Who did Kendall think he was blocking on that sack of Campbell which pushed us back and led to the missed field goal? There was no one on his side of the field - not even a receiver - and no one close to him except for a 300-pound opposing lineman. He just stood there looking for someone to block while said 300-lber ran unmolested to Campbell. I've never seen a worse whiff by an offensive lineman. When in doubt, Kendall, try blocking the big mean-looking fella in front of you. Cost: Maybe 7, definitely 3.

4) London Fletcher, why mock the opposing sideline? You're a ten-year vet, too old for schoolyard behavour. Haven't you learned the rules... yet? If not, didn't Landry getting called THE SAME DRIVE for unsportsmanlike conduct teach you? Cost: minus 7 points.

5) Carlos Rogers.

A) Why do you stay ten yards off the receiver in coverage when the opposing team is on your six-yard line? Then, when the opposing receiver catches the ball on 2nd down and moves it to the two-yard line, why do you celebrate as if you just won the Super Bowl? Cost: Burgundy pride.

B) When the opposing team throws the ball to you, catch it: Cost: Speculative.

C) Why do you hit a kicker long after a blocked extra point? If said kicker hadn't retaliated and grabbed your helmet, the penalties might not have been reciprocated and they would have had another chance. Cost: Should have been minus 1, which would have meant overtime.

6) Injuries. What was with Rock getting ijured without getting hit? Whats with all the groin and hamstring injuries? Seriously, some one needs to take a long like at the job Bubba and Co. are doing. Cost: Recievers last week / An Offensive Line this week and generally / Cornerbacks next week.


Posted by: Larry | October 21, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"Two police officers on motorcycles collided while escorting a Cardinals bus to the game, shutting down traffic for hours on a busy interstate. Neither officer was seriously hurt."

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap;jsessionid=50BE130E56B6A0DB5F9BEB84456751F2?game_id=29291&displayPage=tab_recap&season=2007&week=REG7

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

JustMe, I do think a team meeting sort of thing is in order, but I don't know what that would mean on the eve of our road trip to face the Cheatriot juggernaut next week.

And I know you were joking, but the thought of Ethan Albright trying to address the entire team is priceless. Definitely the best choice for the job of team meeting speaker... if it were between him and either of the kickers.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

honestly i think a coaches meeting is in order...

obvious that the off staff is not in sync, and def staff must be ready to open up a can of whup azz on off dudes...

to me they are the ones that need to get it together

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

Regarding #4, LF said after the game that he was interacting with the crowd. Being at the game, that's what I thought he was doing as well and didn't understand why the flag was thrown.

Posted by: JustMe | October 21, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Larry - Rackers went after Rogers and grabbed his facemask first. Rogers really didn't do anything there. Should have been a call against Rackers. Watch the replay.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

obvious that the off staff is not in sync, and def staff must be ready to open up a can of whup azz on off dudes...

to me they are the ones that need to get it together

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 11:12 PM

I'm sure the offense felt the same about the defense last year.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Hyperbole!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Larry,
It was Wade who whiffed on the block not Kendall.
Rogers was celebrating because he kept the receiver out of the endzone. However I agree there is way too much celebrating for no reason. They are professionals and are expected to make those types of plays. Maybe if he had caught the interception earlier in the game he could have celebrated.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Exclamations!

Posted by: Lurky boy | October 21, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Observations:
1. Big improvement on turnovers so far. I'm convinced defense is the real deal.
2. None of the other NFC East teams is playing better than us, except maybe the Giants.
3. I think Gibbs is starting to see a little "Riggo" in Mike Sellars. Sellars has been getting a lot more touches lately.
4. Second half letdown on offense is the primary weakness after 6 games. Maybe it's the O-line, maybe the play-calling get conservative, maybe the players are getting tired... I honestly don't know the answer (I'm not breaking down game tapes). But if they learn to play the entire game attacking offensely (I think it's called "killer instinct"), the Redskins will a very solid playoff team--and those highly paid offensive coaches need to figure it out and fix it.

Posted by: Alan | October 21, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Greetings and salutations

Posted by: Christian Slater circa 1989 | October 21, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

also we ALL, EVERYONE including cindy needs to apologize to lisa when we all laughed at her for being concerned about the gints. they're 5-2! a half game ahead of the skins.

i really think it's all cool if weird al is admiting that they kept it conservative cuz of the o-line. rember santa is hurt as well. so says you guys and the injury report...so who you gonna run up the sidelines? all them WRs hammies are bad except for one and they don't trust him any more they trust...

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

3 drives gaining more than 8 yards is pretty poor isn't it.

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

we saved the giants season, single-handley, if we had won that they would have imploded....your welcome gints...

also i firmly believe cyndy jinxed us in that game

sorry lisa...

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 21, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

In reference to the drive chart, in my mind it actually makes things look less terrible then I though while watching the game. The redskins had three drives in the fourth quarter (and the lead). On the first they ran for no gain, threw for five yards on second down and had a makeable 3rd and five. A five yard penalty (execution not play calling)made it 3rd and 10. Pass then made 8 yards (first down if 3rd and five).
On the second drive they again had 3rd and five and Campbell missed ARE. On the last drive after trying a long pass on second down they ran a draw. Maybe the draw was a little conservative but they did have an 8 point lead.

Don't get me wrong I think the offensive is ineffective right now but I think it is too easy just to blame the play calling. Bottom line is an effective offensive executes whatever play is called. Right know the Redskins are not effective on offense. If they want to make a playoff run they need to fix this not just blame the play caller.

Posted by: Lifetime Fan | October 21, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

dealer, couple of good points, Lisa was on the mark about the Giants. You're probably also right regarding the WR health in regards to being a bit more agressive in the passing game.

I just think Weird Al was keeping it vanilla today, so that next week the Pats don't have too much ammo to gameplan against us. Then next Sunday, Whammo! We hit them with everything! 9 points here we come!

Posted by: kost52 | October 21, 2007 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Early line is:

Redskins
@ Patriots -16.5


WOW....that's way higher than i expected...i was thinking maybe 10-12, 14 at highest

it's gonna get to 17-18 by next sunday.
dolphins were a 14.5 dog at home on monday, 17 when it started today.

Posted by: kman | October 21, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the blocked kick situation just like a INT situation. QBs are fair game on INTs and usually are taught to run to the sideline to avoid getting cheap shotted.

Or is that just for field goals and not for XPs? Or am I just completely wrong all together? Rackers definitely overreacted, but I think that was not as big of a deal as the other shabingus that took place.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Did the screen pass that Soupy had intercepted seem like an odd call? I'd really like to hear if that was the original call, or something he checked into. Just not the kind of thing they typically do -- if you think the Cards are planning on a run, then throw downfield... you know that's a strength. If you're worried about pressure, the bubble screen or slant to Moss/ARE are good calls.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 21, 2007 11:38 PM | Report abuse

cL, and that is second time in 3 seasons skins have done that...saved the gints season

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Depth was always a problem for this team, yet they're 4-2. Can't lose the secondary or the D will revert to last year's shabingus.

Anyone who doesn't understand the significance of the O-line and its relation to offensive production isn't paying attention. The 'skins live and die by the line. Need Rabach back ASAP. Offensive production way down since his injury (including last week.) Affects everything from production to play calling; causing a vicious downward spiral. Lack of trust in coaches decisions and players on the field, etc.

I hope they open up the quick passing game next week.

Good news: if the playoffs started today, Skins in. Also have tiebreakers over Lions and Cards. Control own destiny with division games and Tampa. Must beat Jets and Bills. Those games suddenly look difficult.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 21, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

cload, i thought the screen pass was an awesome call and had it not been intercepted it not been knocked back it was going to gain good yardage...at least that's what it looked like from my vantage point...

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

looks like sawx goin the series! thanks to pedroi...with 5 ribs

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

F the Giants.

Here's to the Skins' winning two games in the Meadowlands this season (has that ever happened before?): versus the Jets in two weeks, versus the Jints in week fifteen.

And here's a news flash from Captain Obvious: we do have a chance, however unlikely, to beat the Pats. Have they faced a D anywhere near as good as ours so far? Nope. Other than the Cowboys and Chargers (neither as good as we are), every D they've played has been craptastic. And yes, they are human, and they will be looking ahead to their game the following week at Indy.

"So you're sayin' there's a chance!"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 21, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Teenage Suicide? Don't do it!

Posted by: Big Fun | October 21, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

So is it Raw-back or Ray-bock? Everyone I've seen on WaPo Live says it different. Someone (I think Casserly) said Ray-bosh even.

Posted by: Lurky boy | October 21, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

i think there ought to be a mercy rule put in baseball...tap out INDIANS! gotta go to sleep!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Nate, what's your damage?

Posted by: Heather Chandler | October 21, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Dealer, I like screens... but not at that time in the game. I want to go deep right after a turnover [on downs this time, but field position was excellent]. Instead there's this slow-developing play that really emphasizes the o-line playing well, knowing their assignments, and communicating. Does any of that sound like something you'd want to ask the oline to do right now?

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 21, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Sox game is getting ridiculous. Can Colorado bring it with so much time off?

Imagine if we were 6-0. We'd be the most overrated team in the NFL. We'd have that annoying swagger that we saw from Dallas before last week... I wish we were 5-1, but I'm sort of glad we're not 6-0. At the end of it all, I just want to be in the playoffs. A division title would be nice. One can dream.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we could talk about it over cheeseburgers or somesuch.

Posted by: Heather Chandler | October 21, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

cload, (i can't believe i'm up here defending this o coaching staff as much as i am!) that is precisely the reason...you said it. that was probably one of those plays that THIS o-line practiced to death this week and thus was put in because that was one of the plays they thought they could count on. meaning they called it cuz they had practiced it and had confidence that THIS o-line could do it.

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I want my o-line to slice and dice. And get out tough stains.

Posted by: Dorf | October 21, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

you guys want hope?

skins D owns Moss, the other one, Randy!

Posted by: dealer | October 21, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

dealer, maybe you're right, but if that's what they were practicing, I would suggest they spend more time with Wade identifying the LEFT DE and trying to block him on, say, a passing down.
How that guy sneaked a little bit further to his left and completely disappeared from Wade's radar reminded me of every poorly written video game I've ever seen.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 21, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Dealer,

True, R. Moss hasn't played great against the 'skins. It would give my heart such joy to see him head for the tunnel before the end of the game next week. But it is not him that worries me.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Yep, that's right, you all called me crazy with my prediction about the Giants. I hate to say I told you so (I REALLY HATE to say I told you so :) but I was oh so right :(

Justme, pardon my ignorance but what the hell does "ameliorated" mean?

Posted by: Lisa | October 22, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Wade looking left at the snap on that critical play was just absurd.

If it were so loud he thought he might miss the snap, which is doubtful since it was in our quiet zone building and we were on O, he should have done that silly-looking hand-holding thing with Fabuloso.

It looked like he was just daydreaming or something. Red alert, Todd, there's a defender across from you, and he's your responsibility! No help on that side, bro! Pay some attention! Gonna get your QB hurt! Sheesh...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Improved?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Did I miss the RI blog deathmatch where periculum and Jack managed to kill each other?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Ameliorate means to make better, to improve [something]. Our O needs some amelioration.

That's a big old word, a word I like a lot.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Celebrity referee for that deathmatch?

Priest Holmes.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 12:12 AM | Report abuse

That's another play that I'd like to hear a little more detail on. There are a half dozen possible explanations -- bad line call by Poochie, Wade expects a TE to come across from the left side, etc... but for everyone that thought that Wade was an upgrade over Jansen, please show me some evidence.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

How could a WIN feel this bad? Ugh...

I mean, it's not like we got somebody else hurt, right? Smoot and Rock weren't hurt too badly, were they?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone thought about the fact that if Rattay had played instead of Warner this debacle win would not have happened? Not to say our offense would have improved but would the Cards have scored at all?

I've been watching replays on various television shows (NFL Network, Sportsnet,etc) and everytime they show Rackers kicking the field goal I get nervous all over again.

Posted by: Lisa | October 22, 2007 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Cheers Justme,

I dig London's passion, but he should have the vet experience to at least pump up the crowd on the REDSKINS side of the field, and avoid the penalty.

Posted by: Larry | October 22, 2007 12:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm out like a fat kid in dodge ball.

Bring on the Pats.

Posted by: Dorf | October 22, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone have Kenny Watson and Sage Rosenfelds on their fantasy team?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Who would have thought that Kenny Watson would have had a longer career than LaVar?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 12:26 AM | Report abuse

yup, watson

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, in JustMe's context, ameliorate would mean "to fix or address an issue, or to make more tolerable".

I saw nothing in Fletcher's behavior on the taunting call that he hadn't done every other time he made a big play. That was not much of a call, and not something I would've expected. Landry's foul was not an automatic call either, but there's not much to complain about -- if it were ARE on the receiving end of that hit, I'd probably not be too happy.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 12:30 AM | Report abuse

If you added L. Coles with DR. Watson and the Sage, you would have had NINE TDs! WTF?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Well, I'll take the win. I think we needed to try to steal one while resting Rabach and Washington, and we did just that. Our offenses did what it had to do to help the defense win the game - take advantage of its good opportunities and minimize costly errors. Fact is, the Cardinals are an NFL team and with our current O-line we could not expect to have long drives.

Hopefully, with the extra rest, Rabach and Washington will be ready to go for the Pats and even might be able to practice on Thursday. If we can get them back, I think we might have a little surprise for New England.

Posted by: Mike H. | October 22, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Just terrible reffing today. Dumb, game-changing calls against both teams. It's Jeff Triplette. He and his crew suck and are legendary for inconsistent calls, an inability to take control of a game early, and working games with lots of gray area bad calls. Sadly, Ed Hochuli and Mike Carey can't work every game.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 22, 2007 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Opportunity knocks!

The 'skins go to Mass and have the opportunity to pull off the 'upset of the season.' Can the defense hold NE to 17 points? Twice this season the Pats have been 'held' to 34 points. Can the offense find generate points and sustaining drives?
How do the 'skins stack up with the elite?

Less than seven days!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 1:29 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins look about the same as the Eagles...except for fact that the 'skins are 4-2 and with the opportunity to go three games over .500 for the first time in forever!

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 1:44 AM | Report abuse

I am very curious about this NE game as well. In the NFL, any team can win any game. That's a fact. My heart always wants to believe in the 'Skins, my head says they don't stand a chance against the Juggernaut Patriots.

All of that said, it'll be a good barometer. There is no such thing as a good loss or a moral victory. You either win or lose, and that's it. But next week we will see just how good this coaching staff is as they prepare to face the best coach and staff thus far in the 21st century, we will see just how good that offense is against a stellar defense, and (perhaps most interestingly) we will see just how good that defense is against the best QB and WR thus far in the 21st century.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 22, 2007 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Well said, P Diddy.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 22, 2007 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Match ups

Moss vs the Reaper. He got him in the first year in the end zone (fantastic catch). But he is not going deep on ST at his age.

NE run game vs Front 7 of the skins. I don't think NE has much or a run game this year. Don't look just a stats they are a pass first team. We can stop them with 7 in the box.

The problem will be check offs and slants. But you are not going to score 27 points doing that.

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 5:01 AM | Report abuse

match ups?

I'm thinking about the Redskins offense vs. the New England defense. The Redskins offense was on the field for 25 minutes against Arizona. How long will they be out there against New England?

It'll be a long day for the D, and a short day for our O. Frost may set a record for most punts in a game.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 5:46 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluator

I was just doing the D for this one.

I got to see what the O looks like next week.

If we have an O line and our wide outs are healthy we can score and get some TOP.

CP is getting close to 85-90 percent but there are no holes.

Also we did not fumble!!!!!!

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Kinda happy I'm in brussels and couldn't watch that garbage. How many 3 and outs in the fourth?

Can we blame the O line??? Agree with all those screaming for PASS FIRST west coast offense. 4 rec'rs every down. Plus Cooley chip blocking right side. Gotta change something. 41-10 next Sunday. BYOG.

Posted by: Pub Golf | October 22, 2007 6:03 AM | Report abuse

from the Post

"Once you got the dog down you got to kill it," Smoot said.

OMG
Maybe it was CP going to smoot's house on those back roads in Mississippi.

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 6:15 AM | Report abuse

This must stop.

Don't believe the media about everything. They had Bush as better than OJ.

The Pats are like the 99 RAMS and 2000 Ravens, they do some things well and victamize week teams.

Davis ran right at the Ravens and we one.

Davis would not have run at the 85 Bears. Or 90 Eagles because they had a better front 7.

The Rams just got by the Titans in the Supper Bowl and lost to the freaking Pats the next year.

The Pats are not going to put up 41 points unless we give them a lot of help (we might).

The Pats center is hurt and their run game is not potent. Take away Moss and play well on the crossing routs and we will be fine.

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 6:29 AM | Report abuse

m&m
put the crack pipe away skins have NO CHANCE against PATRIOTS and they got WOOPED up and down the field by a 1 arm QB!

Posted by: jm220 | October 22, 2007 6:34 AM | Report abuse

go away, fake jm220.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 6:38 AM | Report abuse

M&M
Im Real i just havent had a drink of KOOL-AIDE in a couple of weeks and unlike you who drinks it by the KEG i can see they SUCK!
JC had 95 yds passing! WOOHOO
KURT (1 arm) WARNER shreded that all #1 secondary!
ON & ON

Posted by: jm220 | October 22, 2007 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Larry said:

"1) Will we ever blitz again? Sure, we've had some success with Perpetual Cover II, but against a team with a good O-line and veteran quarterback with time, all the speed in the world in the backfield doesn't help you. We don't have the bull rush & studs we need to play a 4-man rush EVERY PLAY and teams have caught on to us after using it for three weeks. We gave a one-armed, old-man gimp with no sure back-ups all day to tear us apart. Why not go after him... at all? Unimaginative, predictable defensive plan. Cost: 19 points."

Sorry Larry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you completely. Blitzing is the most overrated football strategy ever. With apologies to TMQ, the average NFL play generates something like 4-6 yards. That means that the majority of the time, straight defense favors a stop. Most good QBs know how to beat the blitz, and most teams yield many more big plays during a blitz.

There's a reason the Pats almost never blitzed Kurt Warner during the Super Bowl, and why Williams never blitzed Kitna. Those QBs and WRs know how to beat the blitz for big plays. I'm thrilled that Willimas is blitzing less, because his defenses (like most defenses) give up more big plays when they blitz than when they don't.

The reason Warner started to pick the defense apart is that the defense was simply on the field too long. If your offense can't move the ball, the defense will get tired. It's really that simple.

It may not be thrilling, but it's better to bring pressure with the front four and drop into coverage against almost any opponent. I hope the Skins never feel the need to blitz again.

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 7:04 AM | Report abuse

go away, fake jm220 - this is your last warning

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Seriously fake jm220, go away. The real one is literate.

The defensive injuries are easily explained: those guys are on the field too long. But how do you explain all the offensive injuries? I have to say it again: the conditioning and strength coaches should really be asked a lot of questions. It was good to read that the team brought in a consultant...but it's a bit late to do that once the season has already started. You can't go back and have the offseason and training camp as a do-over.

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 7:18 AM | Report abuse

get a life boofer. buffalo whooped you.

Posted by: Pub Golf | October 22, 2007 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else think that maybe it's time we accepted that our offense ain't very good and is never going to be very good? Good offensive performances are the exception rather than the norm. Something is worng in there, whether it be the coaching, the play-calling or the fact that maybe the players just aren't that good when you boil it all down. I'm not sure we can blame the offensive line problems for everything that's going on. Our offense was bad before all these injuries. Maybe it's just time to accept that this mix of players and coaches isn't ever going to produce a consistently good offense.

Posted by: Gordi | October 22, 2007 7:35 AM | Report abuse

jcabana & pubgolf
Dont come on this blog with IDIOTIC KOOL-AIDE comments and whiney insults! If you dont like the Truth then go back to your 91 MADDEN and drink your KOOL-AIDE.
Cardinals smacked our BELUVED Redskins and they should have won!

Posted by: jm220 | October 22, 2007 7:42 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the Gibbs presser this afternoon...

Wonder how many plays he's going to turn into the league this week?

Maybe Gibbs should spend as much time on the offense and the clock management issues as he does determining which plays to turn into the league for his weekly b#tch festival.

Yes, we are 4-2, which is right where I wanted to be... but this team is being let down by its coaching... specifically the head coaching and all of the confusion that accompanies his shenanigans.

I hate to say this, but it would probably be a closer game next week if Spurrier or Norv we coaching this team. But with Gibbs, blowout city here we come... the good news is that we will have fought and prayed our guts out in the 56-3 loss.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 22, 2007 7:48 AM | Report abuse

We're gonna go ahead and turn that one into the league UP HERE.

Oh, and I'd also like to thank the fans and Dan. There were only about 30,000 empty seats yesterday and that really helped us out up here.

You really have to hand it to Dan. He has turned away so many fans, people actually have whole rows to themselves UP THERE. $20 for a club seat in the parking lot is a great deal UP THERE.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 22, 2007 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I tell you what, Jason, that is one tough dag-gum football player. He is playing with handcuffs and horrid play-calling by me, err I mean Al, yet he still finds a way to lead us to victory.

Speaking of Al, I think he deserves a medal for his heroic effort yesterday UP THERE in the booth. We probably had the lowest amount of yards in the league yesterday, but I'm proud of him and he's a real American hero.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 22, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Okay: no more feeding the troll, I promise.

Nate makes the same point I tried to make after last week's game: not team in the NFL can be super-productive with this many lost players along the line. Not even the Patriots could sustain any continuity on offense with guys going out injured every single game (and some of them staying out for weeks at a time).

I noticed people here are saying the Redskins have no o-line depth. That's ridiculous. No team has the kind of depth the Redskins need right now. Plus, offensive lines need to play together to establish chemistry, and this line hasn't had the chance to do so. That's the hard truth.

If the o-line was intact, or maybe missing one or two starters and/or key backups, the finger-pointing would make sense. But right now, you don't need to look far to see where the problem is...and the only way to fix it is better health.

The team needs Rabach, Thomas and Jansen back. It needs Wade at full strength. It needs Heyer as a healthy backup. But since some of those guys aren't walking through that door, I'll settle for Rabach and Wade.

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Logic?

We have a bad front office - so we don't have good players - so we are a losing team (4-2?)

We should be 5-1 6-0 except for our coaches who are holding our wonderful players down.

Which is it?

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Couple things:

Whomever called for the conservative offensive play-calling, needs to go. That was stupid for the sake of stupid. Why, what possibly could we gain by doing this? Keeping the other team in the game? This goes COUNTER to EVERYTHING that we should have done. So after the first quarter when the Cardinals realized that we weren't going to throw the ball they could just stack 8-9 in the box, and our coaching staff is too stupid/stubborn to deviate from the game plan.

Something must be wrong with Moss, either that or the coaching staff doesn't trust him anymore. Throwing to Cooley and Moss 3 times in a game makes ZERO sense. None. Running Betts 3 times, and not getting the ball in his hands any more than that ALSO makes ZERO sense.

I'm a fan of Joe Gibbs, but the time has come. Coaching scared, and coaching NOT TO LOSE, wont EVER work.

How about some 3 step drops? How about some no huddle to keep the other team off balance? This offense should be embarrassed, and the coach's should be even more so.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 8:26 AM | Report abuse

That was a game we deserved to lose. I want to compliment Ron Springs for playing the way he did under such a tremendous mental load. Best wishes for recovery of his father.

The offense needs to step up and at least quit turning the ball over. The defense cannot keep playing 3/4 of every game.

According to the last Saunders article we haven't seen anything yet. We better start seeing something or we may be on the short end of a new record number of points scored against in a loss record.

The Patriots have a real football team - both offensively and defensively. I don't see much hope for an offensive turnaround given the current injury situation.

This the worst I've ever felt after a win.

Posted by: oldskinsfan | October 22, 2007 8:30 AM | Report abuse

That is his father you idiot

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I choose lucky to be 4-2

Posted by: m&m | October 22, 2007 8:35 AM | Report abuse


your right M&M we are lucky to be 4-2

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 8:37 AM | Report abuse

We only had one minor boo boo so I don't feel bad.

I felt bad after the eagles game. And the Giants game in 1985.

btw Ron is the dad

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Next week the gmen who play miami will be 6-2 the cowboys have a bye will be 6-1 our redskins play patriots 4-3 and eagles are out already.

Posted by: jm220 | October 22, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

M&M
you melted and didnt see that oldskin was already corrected about ron being the dad and shaun the son.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

I couldn't agree more. I have never seen a more conservative, scared, ancient coach than Gibbs. It's gone from concerning to sad to now laughable. At this point, I think we're more likely to see OJ admit his innocence or Lombardi to rise from the dead than we are to see a hurry up offense or us run out of a 3 WR set. Heck, the guy is freaking scared and paranoid, I'm shocked Gibbs is still running shot gun.

Cue the circus music for New England. I can't wait to see how proud he is after that debacle next week.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 22, 2007 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I will reiterate that we will all know how prepared the 'Skins are next week as soon as we see them on offense. If they snap the ball with more than 2 or 3 seconds (preferably 1) left on the play clock they aren't doing all they can to keep the NE offense off the field for every possible second. The Pats looked quite mortal when Brady came out of the game just long enough to demonstrate that his understudy makes Mark Brunnell look all-pro. Say what you want about 'professionalism' but this is a potential trap-game for NE. The 'Skins are in no way going to factor into the Patriots' season and it could be very easy for Bill "Belli-photo" to be gaming-up for the following week's opponent.

Indianapolis.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 22, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

The part that pisses me off the most is that we're wasting talent. Romo passed for 231 in 2 quarters yesterday. Jeff Garcia passed for over 170 in 2 quarters yesterday. Are you going to tell me that Tampa Bay has better wideouts and a better tight end than we do, because thats just bull-stuff.

This whole conservative offense thing makes no, NO sense. Why? So the other team has a chance? To keep them hanging around?

I hate to say this but Williams might be a better option at this time to coach this team than Gibbs.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 9:07 AM | Report abuse

The ceremony to remove Joe Gibbs' bust from Canton will occur at 2pm this afternoon.

Posted by: Canton, OH | October 22, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

UGLY UGLY WIN...but hey we're 4-2...given the injuries we have right now I'll take it.

Posted by: POOP | October 22, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or is Jeff Triplette a ringer for Brian Billick. There were a couple really bad calls yesterday. The 15-yarder against 'Fletch was absurd. If that's taunting, then take off the helmets and pads and tie on some flags because that type os sensitivity doesn't belong in football.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 22, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Wow, with this kind of vitriol, imagine what would have happened up here if the 'Skins had lost.

4-2 people. Take a deep breath.

Focus on the positives (dominant defense when fresh, Soups progressing, winning record, hottest cheerleaders in the NFL).

Posted by: SCSkins | October 22, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

SCSkins, you're right. At this point the fans are nit-picking, but with reason. I think most of us see this offense as a car going as fast as it can go in second gear. If there was ever a game to let the ball fly downfield (more than 2 times) it was this one. My worry is that we haven't done enough to be at a point going into a game with NE where we can say, "Yeah, we can do a few things here and have opportunities for success." I think Bill Belli-cheat probably figured out the 'Skins' offense over coffee and a breakfast burrito. Can't Fred 'Capt. Stubing' Smoot put together a boat party in NE and snap a few pics of Brady with some hottie prior to the game? Can't we contract some ex-Agency type to drug Tom Brady's hair gel? Can't someone be bribed to sprinkle a little pot in Randy Moss' soup, then place an anonymous call to the league? Think people....THINK!

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 22, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

SC, yeah, we're 4-2, but we aren't making forward progress. Great, 4-2, third place in the division, still can't score. We're not even stagnant, because we now have Campbell as our QB, and we're not allowing him to develop. 95 Yards passing. Why not just have Campbell learn to punt?

Here is how bad it is. Remember L. Coles? Yeah, he had more yards, than ARE, Moss, Cooley, Portis, and Sellars COMBINED!!!

I don't care who it is, Saunders, Gibbs, or some other offensive coach needs to GO. TODAY!!!

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or does Pucillo look like a dead ringer for a larger version of Patrick Ramsey? I saw him at center a few times yesterday and had to take a double take. Haven't seen him too much without the helmet, but with it on it was sort of eerie. Rabach needs to come back though, Pooch was serviceable, but not a long term solution.

Wade's name is on the pro-bowl ballot. All other tackles should be insulted by that.

Redskins with a shot at the pro-bowl:
London Fletcher
Sean Taylor
LaRon Landry
Derrick Frost (the blocked punt didn't help)
Jason Campbell (its a long shot at this point, but no one else is really stepping up so why not?)
Clinton Portis (if the line gets better)
Andre Carter
Chris Samuels
Mike Sellers
Chris Cooley
Rocky McIntosh

anybody else?


Anybody else?

Posted by: Dorf | October 22, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Anyone want to buy a Dan Marino shirt?

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs is delusional. You cannot consistently put up less than 20 points, have the lowest amount of yards in the league yesterday, and be proud about what you're doing. You also cannot lead the league in blowing 2nd half leads and think that you're still "going about things the right way UP HERE". It's not just disturbing, it's bordering on insanity. Yeah, yeah, what he says to the media is different than what he says behind the scenes, but I beg to differ. The man is delusional. He actually believes that crap. He is a great man, definitely a better man than I'll ever be, but he is one of the worst football coaches in the NFL right now.

Joe Gibbs, step into my office. You're fired. Thank and bye bye.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 22, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Hi, I'm Redcoat. I just thought you might like to know that I have now reached 'acceptance' in the grieving process.

I wish you guys peace as you go through it too some time during this season.

Remember the key stages are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I sense that some here are still at the 'anger' stage, but others have moved onto 'bargaining'.

Don't worry, all will be well eventually.

Serenity to you all. And wishing you joy against the Patriots next week.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm tired of hearing about injuries. Just run your offense. These guys are proffessionals and you can't just run to one side or run a scaled down offense.

Having said all that. I was really bitter yesterday and told POOP that I felt better after the Green Bay loss but today I'm over it. A win is a win and lord knows we've lost enough games that we should of won. Yesterday we won one we should have lost perhaps.

Isn't that what we are always getting on Gibbs about though? Not holding the lead late, not winning the close games. They did it let's move on.

Oh well. Pats next, let's shock the world. This team is capable of beating them. I give us a 20% chance. Springs on Welker and stay in the tampa 2 the whole game. When that lob is thrown to Moss no one goes for the int, they just crush Moss. He must be punished on every throw to him.

Posted by: Skinz | October 22, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby, I do enjoy your rants, but for you to suggest (7:48am) that we would play a closer game against the Patriots if Norv or Spurrier were our head coach... come on, dude!

Anybody who pines for Norv or Spurrier has an incredibly short memory. Those were painful, painful years, watching poorly prepared teams play poorly. Or have you forgotten already?

4-2... 4-2... no matter what happens this weekend, we can and should beat the Jets and Eagles the following two weeks... serenity now...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I sense you are still at the 'bargaining' stage Nate, but at least you have moved on from Rick Bobby's 'anger'.

Boy that was an ugly win for you guys yesterday, but as has been said ad nauseum, 'a win IS a win'. I fear that this team may well break your collective hearts this season, but at least you have hope for competing into Jan/Feb.

All I have left is to count down the games until we see if Beck can be part of our future. BTW I think you'll see that Miami's offense is now ranked higher than Washington's. Who'd a thunk that!! :-)

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

RB, yup, thats about the whole deal in a nut-shell. It is just un-acceptable to think that the game plan that was put forth out on the field yesterday was something that someone had to sign off on. It is unacceptable to think that throwing for 95 yards on a defensive team that struggles against the pass is a good plan. It is equally unacceptable to think that continuing to run the ball for 2 yards, even with 9 guys in the box is a well thought out plan. 3rd, and 10, lets go to Sellars for 8 yards, that should just about do it.

I saw Joe's presser after the game on NFL Network, and the lack of anger, the lack of vitriol, was disturbing. If someone needs to piss in Gibb's cheerios to get him to take more chances, so be it, but something needs to be done. Can you imagine how Parcells, or Cowher would have handled passes bouncing off our receivers hands? Or the lack of running game? Someone would have had a new orofice, and RIGHTFULLY SO. There is no fear on this team. In the last two weeks, Santana has more drops, and fumbles than catches.

I don't get it. Its like we're striving for mediocrity...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Jcabana, you make some good points about not blitzing, but must disagree with your suggestion that they should 'never blitz again'.

A) Yes, there is a risk of giving up a big play, but when your front 4 are exhausted in the fourth quarter, can generate no rush and the opposing injured gimpy old Q is effortlessly picking apart your D with all the time in the world, it is worth the risk. He was making big plays all quarter against Perpetual Cover II anyway. With a blitz and possible sack, we have the chance to get them in, say, a third and 17 situation and end a drive. Warner had epochs to throw the ball - species came and went - in the time it took for the D to get to him. Imagine what Brady will do to us next week. The one time we did hit Warner, he dropped the ball and we recovered - a huge play that staved off a loss. We have a good middle penetrator in Fletcher and great speed guys in Taylor and Landry who we must unleash on occasion.

B) When an opposing quarterback is injured, you have to hit him. I'm not suggesting intentionally trying to hurt him, but that is a weakness - just as our injured O-line is - that you have to exploit. You also have to make him hear footsteps, shake his confidence, and keep the opposing O guessing what you're going to do. By the end of the game, they had figured out where to exploit Cover Two and did it repeatedly.

Defense requires at least a modicum of risk and unpredictability, ask the offense.

Posted by: Larry | October 22, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Nate,

I was half joking, but also half serious. Gibbs handcuffs this offense, which to me is more maddening than anything Spurrier or Norv did. At least those guys took their shots and didn't play to lose when up by 8 at the half.

And record wise, Gibbs is no better than either of those guys in his second go-around.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 22, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Truly our offense sucked yesterday....and that has to change next weekend. However, we did win. Since everyone feels bad about this "win" can you all imagine how horrid it would be if we lost the game?

However, remember the Cowboys/Bills game? The Cowboys played terribly and won by the narrowest of margins (ala Redskins yesterday)- but is anyone talking about that now?

We need to move on....and just hope that the Pats do not blow us out too badly.

Posted by: Lisa | October 22, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Two points today:

1. I don't like the trends but I'll take a win any day.

2. Our offense should not over game plan for New England. Instead, we should spend every extra minute working on the fundamentals and intricacies of our running game.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | October 22, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Good point, Greg.

Maybe a certain pesky beat reporter could put a bee in Coach Joe's bonnet this week?

Actually, even though I will maintain right up to kickoff that we "have a chance" vs. the Cheatriots, I would advocate going with the basic "nobody gives us a chance" motivation this week. Because it will be true, for one thing.

I would prefer that we push all of the more complicated team-coalescing/season-saving devices, like players-only meetings, locker room tantrums, taking Bugel off his meds, and press room slap-fights to the following week, when they are bound to have better effect.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

JC 95 yds passing 1 int against Cards

Portis 18 carries for 64 yds against Cards

1 arm QB cant hand off the right way shreds Defense for more then 300 yds at FEDEX

Sorry fellas but im not drinking kool-aide anymore.

Posted by: jm220 | October 22, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

It's great to get a win, but it sure looked like another Giants/Packers deja vue all over this one. I am glad that Arizona's kicker had an awful day and they certainly dodged the bullet on this one.

Posted by: M | October 22, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Chicken Littles,

I'm a pessimist by nature but let's have some perspective here. This team has played 4 bad halves and only on defense (two yesterday and the second halves of gmen, pack.) I'm not jumping up and down but we have twice as many wins as losses.

Like is said, I was really bitter yesterday but have some perspective.

RB,

Gibbs dissapoints me as well but this team is better off for having him. We have a QB, safeties and a couple d-lineman that should be here for a long time. We seem to be taking a bit of a long-term approach in our FO and our only out-and-out bust is Archabingus.

Posted by: Skinz | October 22, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Should read, "..only on OFFENSE.." not defense.

Posted by: Skinz | October 22, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Right now we have the 25th ranked offense, and the 26th ranked passing offense. Go take a look at some of the teams ahead of us in those categories, its pretty sickening that we're this bad, with the talent that we have on the offensive side of the ball.

If this is the offense we're going to run, why not stick Brunell back in there, and we'll resort back to the dink and dunk offense that we had.

This is 2007, and we're still doing the same things that we were doing in 2004. Our defense is great, and our offense is stagnant, and cannot get out of its own way. If Saunders is responsible for this, then he needs to get bleep-canned.

Sorry to be such a downer today, but this team is being held back by its coach's.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Larry: Did you ever consider that we don't blitz more primarily because 2 of our top 3 corners are incapbale in man coverage? You just don't want Rogers and Smoot against the likes of Boldin or Fitzgerald. In fact, I wouldn't even put them in man coverage against Rudy Guiliani and John McCain.

Case in point...the fade to Fitzgerald down the left sideline yesterday. Rogers had deep position and stared a hole in the QB. He saw the ball get thrown, saw it in the air and then missed the deflection by about 5 feet. He's a huge let down.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | October 22, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Er, ahem, Skinz... Lloyd, Brandon?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I blew that one Nate. Ok two....

Posted by: Skinz | October 22, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

We don't blitz because we are getting pressure from our front 4 and turnovers from our safeties.

Posted by: Da Truef | October 22, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Lisa you were right...I also called that a trap game against the gints and got called out by cindy, I think she said , "the giants are that bad". The thing is, I wanted to be wrong!!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | October 22, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one that thinks the NE game will answer alot of questions about the team? If we get blown out, then the Redskins defense is not as solid as everyone thinks but rather a defense benefiting from playing weak teams.

If it is a close game or we win, then we have a team that will play to the level of the competition each week.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 22, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

At this point to continue to do what we have been doing and expecting a different outcome is crazy. So much latent talent, risked and squandered every Sunday. Its become shamefull

Posted by: erthdog | October 22, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Wow, this is grim. It isn't even this hopeless sounding on the Miami boards!

Next week will give you a marker on wher eyou are in your journey, but it's by no means definitive. NE is beating up on everyone right now, but who cares what happens right now. It's what happens in Jan/Feb that matters, right?

If you lose next week it's still about getting to the post-season. I genuinely think the Clots or even the Steelers will get rid of NE before the Super Bowl anyway, so you wouldn't have to play them again!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Obviously many people on this board were not at the game. If they were, they would have seen Wade at right tackle completely unable to move to his side to block the defensive end. They would've seen Jason Campbell nearly get killed (more than once) with a 3-step drop. They would've seen Sellers and Cooley and Thrash in the line-up to help block.

60% of the starting offensive line is injured. It limits what you can do. It just does. No amount of genius coaching or playcalling will change that.

The good news is we have a young QB who doesn't get rattled and who learns every game. We have a defense that may be the best we've ever had.

And we have a head coach who knows the most important thing is that we won the game. He's in the Hall of Fame, but he's not a faith healer. Until the bodies get healthy, I'll take an ugly win any day.

Posted by: Mike Diamond | October 22, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Sorry to be such a downer today, but this team is being held back by its coach's.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 10:27 AM

Greg, perhaps missing 3 out of 5 starters on offensive line to injuries has something to do with their struggles on offense?

Posted by: M | October 22, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

At this point Lisa, If we had lost the talk might be about the same?!?!

Hahahaha

The game sucked no doubt, I am with you all on most points. See some of my posts yesterday for my take...

But its time to put behind us, count the win and keep scrappin....thats all you can do.

I feel our players still have fight in them and that is encouraging..


Is it time to try DeMulling? I wish Heyer was healthy I feel his youth and hunger would be welcomed, even if it meant a few brain farts....

And the refs were morons yesterday (across the league) Defenses are getting flagged for breathing on dudes....

I thought both 15 yarders were total BS....

Posted by: Chris Larry | October 22, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Another guttless showing by the offensive coaches and/or Head coach. It appears that this team is on the brink of a mutiny. Listening to players speak after the game, it is clear that they are not happy with the offensive play calling.
The offensive players did not have a bad game yesterday. Like someone previously posted the coaches could have rolled he pocket and they could have done other things to put the players in better position to be successful.

Posted by: Gee | October 22, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Mike D. speaks the truth through his music and his blogging.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 22, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Lloyd is a wanker of the highest order. Arch Deluxe was a mistake, but not a mistake that spells the difference between 5-11 and 9-7, and the FO bought their way out of the mistake this spring... at terms I think were very reasonable.
But two draft picks and a cap-loading contract for Lloyd is a disaster. The only positive is that ARE has stepped up, and we gave no picks for him.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Hey Greg, I never thought I'd be saying this to you, but...

Cheer up, it could be a lot worse you know.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if there were a lot of comments about it during the game, but Tower of London body-surfing into the end zone on the backs of his D pals instantly joined my list of favorite Skins memories. 49 seconds into the highlight reel:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8037e80f

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Is your name Michael Diamond?

Posted by: Nah, my names Clarence | October 22, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

isn't Mike Diamond one of the Beastie Boys?

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Glass half full,

Smoot CAN cover and Rogers has made huge strides despite the dropped interceptions, still playing too far off his man, bonehead celebrations and whiffed tackle against Green Bay last week. I know many in here still like to use Rogers as a punching bag (I certainly do!), but he has good closing speed (while he never catches the Int, he is often there to swat it), above-average athleticism and his coverage savvy has improved dramatically. It appears that years of coaching is finally permeating his thick skull. Sure, he was beat a couple times yesterday, but even the best are against great receivers, particularly if the opposing quarterback is given ALL DAY. I think it fair to say that while Smoot and Rogers are no all-stars, they are solid NFL-ready starters. Both are fast, and with the fleet Taylor and Landry, we should risk blitzing one of the four or Fletcher on occasion against opposing Q's, particularly if said QB is old, immmobile and gimpy.

Posted by: Larry | October 22, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

We endeavor to persevere toward mediocrity.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 22, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Nate, one of my all timers is Portis grabbing on to the belt of Sellers and mushing his way into the end-zone "Iditarod" style.

Fletch played some inspired football. Too inspired.

I can't really blame the defense for giving up 300+ yards. They were on the field the entire second half. Look at the analysis from Jasno' WaPo article today...

"The Redskins scored late in the third quarter on a 59-yard march, the only significant drive by the offense, again with Portis navigating across the goal line from the 1. They had as many first downs on that drive -- five -- as they did in the rest of the game combined. None of Washington's other second-half drives took more than 2 minutes 28 seconds, or lasted more than four plays. The Redskins had three three-and-outs in the fourth quarter, gaining 17 total yards."

what's a defense to do?

Posted by: Dorf | October 22, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Hey all. Good win for Washington heading to NE next week, its way better to play at NE 4-2, instead of 4-3. The offense, oh my the offense. Umm... Washington has a championship calibar defense. I know the defense hasn't really faced a potent offense yet, with the exception of Detroit, but if the Ravens won that super bowl with the offense they had, hmm... I know this team has sustained numerous injuries on the offensive line, but the offense in whole is pathetic. Some blame Gibbs, some blame Saunders, others point to the injuries on the O-line. It obvious that it is all of these factors. I have asked the same question about Washington's offense since October 2006, "who is calling the plays on offense", it seems that when the game first starts its Al Saunders, but when the Redskins build a lead Joe Gibbs chooses to go conservative. By the Skins all of the sudden playing not to loose, I think this inspires the other team and gets them back into the game. We all know that you can't go conservative in a agressive league. Take next weeks opponents, the Patroits. When Miami got to within 2 or 3 touchdowns, Bill Bilichick put Tom Brady back into the game, after already passing for 5 TD's and putting 42 points on the board. All Brady did was secure the victory by throwing TD pass number 6 and putting a 4-9 spot on the board. Where is that type of killer instinct in Washington? Why is the coaching staff contempt with 10 or 14 point halftime leads? I know the Redskins don't have the same talent as the Patroits on a lot of levels, but sometimes that dosen't matter. Sometimes, its all about lining up from the man across from you and knocking him in the mouth. Or, just having the mentality that this man, whoever he is, will not gain an advantage on me this play. Until Washington develops that killer instinct, the Redskins will continue to find themselves in 2 minute drills in the fourth quarter.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Fred Smoot channeling Ron Mexico??

"Once you got the dog down you got to kill it," Smoot said.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Mike D, your assessment is right on the point. I agree with pretty much everything.

Posted by: M | October 22, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ladies!

Yes, Mike D. is part of that mighty triumvirate.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 22, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

M, they put the game plan in on Wednesday, when they knew they would be missing 3/5 starters on the line. So, in other words, this was the BEST they could come up with?

Throwing to Moss twice, and Cooley once, that was their plan? There was ZERO adjustments made during the game.

RC, thanks, I'm actually ok. Sox are in the Series, and BC is #2 in the BCS. Whats not to like...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"develops that killer instinct" ... you guys crack me up!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Ayo dagger, maybe other than my spelling, what is so funny about the skins needing to find ways to win the game, instead of finding ways not to loose it?

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

1000th?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

THe problem starts with Gibbs. The offense just had one of the worst games in NFL history, and Joe Gibbs say he's proud of them and that Al Saunders "called a great game".

Hey Joe...how about you give me 2 million a year. I can call a game about as good as Al called that Cards game. Hell I can call equally crappy plays for 1 million a year. Thanks.

The buck stops there. GIBBS.

He's an apologist. He was probably making his concession speech by half time since they were leading (and he knew they will probably blow another lead).

There was a story on ESPN about how Belichek was chewing out the defense because they gave up a touchdown....this happens when they were up 49-14. Nothing less than Full out effort and perfection is acceptable for Belichek.

For Gibbs, even the worst display of offense in recent memory is a "great playcalling".

To top it off...just watch the post game conference. Gibbs can't even remember the series where they scored a touchdown on 4th down. The reporters had to remind him what happend.

I know why clock management is so bad for redskins...Joe Gibbs don't remember whether they are in 1st quarter or 4th quarter unless Greg Williams remind him.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Obviously the o-line injuries are a huge problem for us, but that's only looking at the short term.

In the long term we're in the 4th year of Gibbs II and we're still nowhere near putting a top 12 offense on the field.

Offensive coaching is CLEARLY a problem for this team. Injuries are what they are, but the coaching is another beast.

Posted by: Clinton Hill | October 22, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

If Carlos is playing "too far off his man", it is reasonable to assume that he is being asked to play that way by the coaches. It is based on the particular scheme they are running on a given play.

Don't you think that if he was supposed to play press coverage and didn't, that Gregg Williams would have him on the bench in about 3 seconds (like LaVar and others)?
It seems like almost everything we hear from the coaches about Carlos' position play is positive.

Zone defenses are the flavor of the decade, and not many teams play man-to-man coverage on a regular basis anymore. It is just the way it is, like it or not.

Posted by: Caspar | October 22, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Considering that Williams is calling a lot of Cover 3, Rogers is doing exactly what's asked of him.

Give up the short stuff and tackle as soon as they catch.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Yep, UP HERE I need a full advisory panel on the sideline to remind me where I am, what year it is, and why I am wearing this goofy headset?

On a side note I would like to dedicate a song to Al Saunders. It's called "Wing Beneath my Wings".

Did I ever tell you that you're myyyyyy hero???? That's a dag-gum great song, and very appropriate after the way we played yesterday, don't ya think????

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 22, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Carlos bouncing off that Packer receiver was an ugly moment, but what's impressive is how good he has looked otherwise this season. Far fewer egregious errors in coverage. Plus he's sticking his nose in and making a lot of hits, which could be said of all our corners.

Tip of the hat to Prioleau and Godfrey for looking pretty doggone good as well. We've needed those dudes, and they've come through for us.

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Play Calling:

Gibbs said that about Saunders because before that he said they were "too conservative". He quickly said that "was probably him" and that "Al called a great game".

The quote is taken out of context. He said they probably should have taken more shots down field which he realized would be made a story about his O-coordinator which he then went overboard to place blame on himself and deflect off his o-coord.

The problem is that you have an O-coord running Gibbs offense. Either Al runs the game or Gibbs run the game but the combination of the two is a nightmare.

Posted by: Da Truef | October 22, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

The time is ripe to trip up that cheating Pats team. Another week of practice for the O-Line & let's pull out some stops here.

Ya ever think maybe the reason they're being conservative during the second half of games is so they have something new for later in the season?

So far, the recipe seems to be this:

Build up a lead, use a super D to hold on to it. Try to run out the clock on offense. True, executing this has proven to be difficult with the O-Line like it is. But it HAS been working to a tune of 4-2

At 4-2 there's no reason to be desperate. We're a middle of the pack team and after last season, they should be pretty dang happy w/ that. If we keep it up, we could challenge for the division lead once we hit our division schedule.

Yes, it would be nice if we were looking dominant in more games - but we're winning some close ones and you couldn't say that last year.

Hail Skins
Hail Squeakers

Bring on the cheating Pats.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

One more time.

We have lots of boo boos of offense. Not just the O line. Moss does not look that good either. We won the game.

CP is running better. JC is developing. So when the skins heal up they will be better on offense.

We had a good game plain vs GB and the Lions but can not do the same things with out people in and healthy.

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Somewhere, General Stockdale is laughing his butt off because the joke has finally moved on to the head coach of the Redskins.

I think Gibbs needs to be removed from office for mental incapacity.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"your right M&M we are lucky to be 4-2

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 08:37 AM"

This was not me. Apparently, some clowns think it's funny to post under other people's names. I'm not sure it's because they have no real sense of humor, or because they are too gutless to cultivate their own identities and defend their own points.

I know the difference between "your" and "you're."

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I just dont get why we always get wuper conservative during the second half, we need to keep the same intensity through the whole game. Our off. looked pretty bad all day long, this was an ugly win but a win none the less.
HAIL

Posted by: SAK | October 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

10-6

Eat it.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The reason why Joe Gibbs seems like he has no clue about what's happening on the field during games is because he is listening to Tony Stewart in his headset.

"Huh? Moss is limping? Okay, bring him in for fuel and some new tires."

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

No one even bothers to pretend to be me.

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"Wuper conservative"?

Is Jasno posting under an alias?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't think we are "lucky to be 4-2." In yesterdays game we missed a 41 yard field goal and they missed a 55 yarder. They got an onside kick and a bs taunting call on Fletcher who said he was firing up the crowd and nothing about his 10 year career leads me to doubt him as being all class.

We've played 4 bad halves on offense which is two games and we're 4-2. In the NFL you are what your record says you are.

Posted by: Just sayzin is all... | October 22, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

So many laptops, soooo much extra time on your hands.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Up here, we like the Plain M&M. Those darn Peanut ones are pretty good too, but the players choke on them when they get blocked hard. Pat likes those peanut butter ones, but I think she's crazy. Plain M&M is the best.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 22, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

No one even bothers to pretend to be me.

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 11:35 AM

I AM ALSO GAY

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Up here, we like the Plain M&M. Those darn Peanut ones are pretty good too, but the players choke on them when they get blocked hard. Pat likes those peanut butter ones, but I think she's crazy. Plain M&M is the best.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | October 22, 2007 11:43 AM


I hope you choke on your M&Ms till your Diabetes flare up and you have to retire Joe...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Larry,

They had figured nothing out. All that changed at the end of the game was that the defense was tired. That's it.

Greg, without an offensive line, you can't run any kind of offense. If they lost one or two guys, they could overcome it. But 5 guys are out or gimpy.

Forget "creative play calling." Forget 3-step drops. If you can't run the ball, very little is going to be open in the passing game anyway.

Sellers (and some fans here) think that the injuries are no excuse. Too bad. This offense is what it looks like it is: solid skill players suffering with a decimated offensive line. It's not an excuse, it's reality. Lombardi himself could return from the dead, and he'd still need to have a relatively healthy o-line to generate offensive production.

This team's only hope is to slog through more ugly games until they start getting more healthy bodies back. I'm just not sure the D can handle the physical strain over time.

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I know the difference between "your" and "you're."

Posted by: jcabana | October 22, 2007 11:33 AM

jcbana, it is safe to say the fake jcbana does not know what your [sic] talking about.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 22, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

" In the NFL you are what your record says you are."

Ok, I choose to respectfully disagree with the above statement. If you are a 4-2 team, and three of your wins come on the practically the last play of the game, not to split hairs here, but isn't that on the (For lack of a better word) neagative side of 4-2? I said before I think teams can have the same records but the way that you achieved those wins may determine exactly how you feel about your record as a team. For example both the Redskins and the Steelers are 4-2. Who do you think is more on the positive side of 4-2? Injuries, depth, quality of opponents, to me, make the difference of being at one end of 4-2 or the other.

I know its a bunch of mumble jumble bull$&*%, but when you think it sort of makes sense.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The only thing worse than winning that game would've been losing it.

Posted by: spike_2.0 | October 22, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I'm not buying into the offensive line injuries. I realize that we've got some issues there. ARE had 3 catches for 56 yards. How do you explain that? If he could get open for almost 19 yards per catch average, then there something that could have been had through the air, but we just didn't take advantage of it.

And I disagree with the 4 bad quarters comments. The 2nd half versus the Giants. The game versus the Packers. The 2nd half versus the Cardinals. When Sean Taylor has almost as many yards than Portis, Moss, and Cooley, you've got problems.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Disinterest grows
As the thread count gets higher;
Jasno - Need New Post!

Posted by: MMHB | October 22, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

SR, I'll take us against the Steelers. Wouldn't you?

And as far as the weak offense goes - hey, If Miamuh can put points on the Pats - so can we.

Bring it.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Realist,

The Steelers lost to the cards. In my opinion there are 3 teams in the league that are complete or nearly complete: Pats, Colts and 'girls and they have 1 loss between them and that is because they played each other.

Everyone else is flawed. Some more than others to be sure, but never the less flawed. The fact of the matter is this team is 2/3rds complete. It's special teams and defense are playoff caliber.

Our defense is the best squad i've seen of the teams we've played so far this year. We will find out this weekend just how legit against what is supposed to be the best squad in the league the Pats O.

Posted by: Just sayzin is all... | October 22, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I completely understand that you are not happy with the offense and I am on board with that. But some things cannot be easily resolved by a game plan. If I recall correctly they had defensive linemen and practice squad players practice on the OL on Wednesday - Kendall, Wade, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, Heyer were all out. Samuels was the only guy from their top OL players availabe to practice. In other words, they had to be conservative in their game plan. Given that the starting "bunch" on OL did not get much of a chance to practice together (and even those who ended up playing were not 100% healthy - Wade, Kendall), I am not surprized that the game plan did not include a lot of creative fireworks. At least, no one can complain about them running another reverse. In all fairness, Skins led 21-6 after the first 3 quarters, so you can hardly blame Gibbs for not making adjustments. Simply put, Cards were the ones who needed adjustments. I have to give them a credit - they never gave up and almost got a W on the road. And how'bout them Red Sox!

Posted by: M | October 22, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

4 bad halves not quarters Greg.

Posted by: Da Truef | October 22, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this is grim. It isn't even this hopeless sounding on the Miami boards!


Then go there and post. This is a site for Redskins fans to cheer or lament the fortunes of their favorite team. We don't want to hear about the Dolphins or their fans' perspective.

Posted by: annoyed more than usual | October 22, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

M, I guess my bigger issue is once again, we did not put a team away, and we totally under utilized our own resources. We got lucky, if the Cardinals were a better team, we're on the losing end of that one.

Yeah, Rox versus Sox, can't wait.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Anan,

RC is a member of these boards. So either post under your regular name or STFU.

Posted by: Da Truef | October 22, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

JSIS and Dik- I agree with the assesment of the beast of the best and on the Steelers but there is something lacking with the Skins right now...

The Dolphins did exploit a weakness in the Patroits defense, they were able to run, but the way the ground game has gone for the Skins, do they have a legitimate chance of running on these guys?

With a copy and paste O-line?

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I would not put the Boys on the same level as Pats or Colts yet, because of the Boys D and the fact that they have not played many quality opponents. They only played two opponents with the winning record (Pats and Giants), both at home, and came out 1-1. They struggled against Bills on Monday night, which is hardly a sign of a dominant team. At this point, I would group them with good, winning teams like Giants or Green Bay, but they are not in Pats or Colts class yet. If they beat Eagles, Giants and Redskins during their back-to-back division opponents stretch, then we can reopen the debate.

Posted by: M | October 22, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

And as far as the weak offense goes - hey, If Miamuh can put points on the Pats - so can we.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 12:06 PM

Bless you for saying that Dik, but they were garbage time points.

And F 'annoyed more than usual'. If you had the time to hunt that out you ought to know that there's a good chance I've been posting here a lot longer than you have. You find somewhere else to post, I got nowhere I want or need to go.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Why do I have the image of some crotchety old bastard telling us to "keep off my grass, dad blame it!"

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

And thank you very much da truef. I was trying to cheer you guys up earlier. From all the cliff-jumping I heard (saw), anyone would think you guys were 0-7.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't put the Dallas in with the Colts or Pats right now either those are complete teams. The 'girls are pretty near complete. The score of the Pats game is a bit misleading too. The girls were winning in the second half of that one.

Posted by: Just sayzin is all... | October 22, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: nah | October 22, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

the CowPies were leading in the second half of the Pats game. There is a significant difference between leading and winning, as the reader is well aware.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

From someone whose team has played the Patriots, it's about Defense MORE than it's about offense when you play them.

Despite the score, our offense performed pretty well yesterday, running when needed and completing plenty of intermediate routes, particularly in hte middle.

But if you can't stop them scoring you will inevitably find yourself playing catch-up and making mistakes. They are following pretty-much the same game plan all the time now; score first and pressure defense iuntil you get the mistakes that can put you a couple of scores (or more) clear, then grind it out via either air or ground depending on the weakness of the opponent.

The Redskins defense is absolutely good enough to stop the Patriots offense from scoring at will - provided time of possession ends up being close - but is the offense good enough to score the points you will need to make them change their plan?

If it is, you come away with the win. Brady is never more than a couple of hurries/sacks from being the impetulant twerp we saw in last year's Miami game, where he did everything but stamping his little feet and shouting "don't you people know who I am?". A couple of times then he looked like he was going to insist on do-overs because "people pay to see me, not all you other guys".

Separate him from the pack and hunt him down. I don't think he's as well-loved in the NE changing room as some would have you believe. I think for the other guys on his team they know they need him, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't like to see him get his feathers ruffled now and again.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Way to bring it, Redcoat!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The running game suffers due to the max protect. Once it all opens up, the offense can and will be more productive, I believe. (I think I can reference the Detroit game there...).

I hear the complaints about the philosophy and wonder what team these fans want to root for. If you like the flashy trashy type of ball there are plenty of gaudy teams to root for.

Give me an ol' NFC east 17-10 bash ANY DAY!

WHAM!... Such As.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Peep Peep!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Why do the Warshingtun Racists football players try so hard to lose games each week? Landry and Fletcher basically
giving a one armed quarterback two extra chances to win the football game....by way of two personal fouls on a single drive
after two defensive stops! Mike Sellers standing and watching an Arizona player run right in front of him to take the football out of the air on an on-sides kick. A Racists player running out of bounds to stop the clock on a late game offensive drive meant to kill the clock. Fred Smoot climbing on receivers each week to try to mask his ineptitude and lack of speed. Carlos Rogers weekly lack of awareness when a ball is in flight (and requisite dropped INT). Even with this depleted O-line the Racists could be undefeated if they weren't so poorly coached.

We are going to get raped by the Pats.

Posted by: Mr Cakes | October 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Great post Redcoat, and I agree...As this season progresses, I see a different philosophy from Greg Williams than from Joe Gibbs. Here's what I mean...

1) Greg Williams is aggressive and demands the best from his guys. So much was made about his methods and how verbally abusive he can be...they have the top ranked defense right now. The biggest difference is that Williams makes no excuses. He demands that his depth players play at the same level.

2) Each week, it's a different story line with this team but most of it is offense and with the exception of last year, it has been mostly offense. I don't think they should overthink their game-planning for the Patriots, they need to play physical football and players need to make plays. I have not figured out how Greg Williams has been able to instill that and Gibbs hasn't.

Posted by: sicwidit | October 22, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

There is a difference between being almost complete and having good depth. I agree that Boys have good depth plus they have been very fortunate to avoid many major injuries to their starters, but their defense is no. 21 in points per game allowed, just behind such defensive juggernuts as San Francisco, Arizona, Buffalo and Atlanta. Their offense is close to being complete (I would have said complete, but they are missing Glenn to an injury) and their best WRs (TO and Glenn) will be 35 and 34 next season so they are not a long term solution.

Posted by: M | October 22, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

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