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Injuries

Santana Moss says he has a strained groin and would not have played if the Skins had a game Sunday. Says he is not sure when he can return to practice and will see the trainers when he gets back to town next week. (Players are off the rest of the week, just have to come in to lift once, but no more practice or anything).

LaRon Landry and Anthony Montgomery have sprained right hands/wrists but say they will be fine.

Fred Smoot says the swelling in his hamstring is finally diminishing and he will be fine after the bye week. Apologized for repeatedly saying he was going to play the last two weeks and says he misjudged how tricky hammies can be.

Marcus Washington says he dislocated elbow is still sore, and he suffered a setback in the Monday game at Philly, causing him to wear a bulkier brace. He hopes to be able to shed that brace in the coming weeks.

Phillip Daniels was able to play through a bruised foot - it was already sprained - but should be okay after the bye.

I'd keep an eye on Griffin too. I know that hip must be bothering him some and he banged up his ankle pretty good Sunday and played through it. Hard to see warriors like Griffin and Daniels staying healthy and they don't have much depth on the D Line.

Oh yeah, and for the lunatic fringe out there, last week I got home from the drive from Philly around 4 am and was up with my son by 7 and had to babysit him until 10 and then I went straight to Redskins Park and broke every piece of news about Thomas injury and worked the phones to get the details on the O Linemen they were bringing in.

That's why there wasn't much game review on Tuesday, becasue there was a lot of breaking news and I didn't have the time. Cause, you know, I was doing the job I get paid for.

Unlike a lot of people in Ashburn, I'm not playing politician, not trying to appease the masses. Oh yeah, and in the interest of full disclosure, I haven't been 26 since 2000, when the wisest, most astute owner in the history of pro sports was 35.


And, since

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 24, 2007; 3:59 PM ET
 
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Comments

woot

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Think he was talkin' bout you JLa?

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

This team is in trouble. I realize that it is only one loss but with injuries , the schedule and the fact the that we were walked over yesterday...we need a saviour.

Posted by: Jeff | September 24, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

That is what I was supposed to be Jeff....

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | September 24, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

take the high road jason, don't bother yourself with snyder's baiting and control-the-message BS

Posted by: millar | September 24, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, Jason! Keep up the fine work, Bro.

Posted by: Mike M. | September 24, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, there is only ONE THING this team "needs" ... and its more cowbell.

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

jasno kickin' it. F haters!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Joe Gibbs. Thanks for the effort, I love you but its not working.

Posted by: Jeff | September 24, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to think you are right Jeff.

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | September 24, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Get em Jasno!! F the haters!

Posted by: bigfish | September 24, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

so true sween...

it couldn't hurt

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Lanfora:
Please sir, a little more professionalism from you. The complaints about the complaints are tiresome. We all have lives to live too. Children, mortgages, car payments.

I'm so tired of journalists who get to tell everyone else how to run things complaining when the focus is turned on them.

I enjoy your work immensely and appreciate your efforts.

But if you don't like criticism, get out of journalism.

Sorry for coming across brusque; but it's warranted.

And yes, this is my real name. I wouldn't dream of criticizing you anonymously.

For the others, fire away.

Steven M. Galbraith

Posted by: SteveMGalbraith | September 24, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Saunders needs to get his arse out of the booth and onto the field.

I hate it when coordinators are up in the booth and then can't understand what happened on the field. This is not a video game. The coaches need to be on the field, with the players, feeling the flow of the game. Up in the booth he is completely out of touch with the game on the field and it shows (calling reverses; not knowing why Portis isn't in there). If he were on the field he could turn to his left and say "Portis, get the f--- out there."

Posted by: CMoney | September 24, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs 2.0 is a lot like getting back together with that gal who walked out on you once before. Sure, she was fun again for awhile, but you just knew eventually that you would end up hating her again, just like the first time.

Posted by: Jilted | September 24, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Danny Partridge was at his finest in that GMike interview. What a pompous ass. I just can't tell you how much it pains me to even see his snot-nosed face, or hear that whiny voice. No kidding, it's so bad, people here in Scottsdale (yes, I am a transplanted fan) ask me all the time: "how could anyone like a team owned by Danny Shiest-er."

Anyway, hang in there Jason.

JJ, a FOURTY FOUR year old fan....

Posted by: jj | September 24, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Steven,

I think you were my business professor in college. You were a D***

Posted by: DA Truef | September 24, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Let's all think good thoughts about Santana's groin during the bye...um,... Let's sleep on it before we...um, this really isn't sounding right. Get way better, way soon Santana. Otherwise it's **gasp** Receiver, The

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I like it when my coordinators are actually given control of the units they were hired to run. Call me crazy.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | September 24, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Next year will be our year. I said it this whole off-season. During the draft and free agency we will address our D-line, get rid of the WR, and hopefully Campbell will be nice and well-rounded. This year is long from over but putting the WR in as a decoy sometimes will bode well for the completion ratio. Still, I am upset, just as all of us are. Hopefully ST will get 2 ints next game against Martz's cubs

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | September 24, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

After the bye, The Receiver can still sit on the bench, even if Moss is gimpy. Reche and ARE can run the routes. Moss can sit on the bench and help The Receiver write his resume.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

JG2.0 is kinda like Britney Spears...only after 2 kids and 100 pounds heavier with a drug habit.

You keep thinking she can look hot again...but each week she just gets fatter and fatter.

Posted by: JG2.0 | September 24, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Should we add "Mr. Lanfora" to Jason''s abundant list of nicknames?

Posted by: Hey Steve! | September 24, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

"I think you were my business professor in college. You were a D***"

Sorry, unless someone has the guts to sign posts, I completely ignore attacks on me.

As any adult does.

Because not having the maturity to sign off on an ad hominem attack is the way children act.

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Phew! I was beginning to think there were some machines out there that were going to go un-raged against.

Your last 3 paragraphs and aborted sentence aren't necessary.

Posted by: bobz | September 24, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

JG2.0 gets 5 TCCLs from me for bringing Britney into the blog. I'm a huge fan of giving underexposed celebrities additional bandwidth. :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Grow up Jason and just report on the Redskins.

Posted by: TC | September 24, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I posted this right at the end of the last thread, but my timing is about is good as wierd al's play calling, and this sums up my thoughts thru week 3, so here it is again:

I said it last week, and I'll say it again right now. Nobody in the nfl is as good as they were last week, and nobody is as bad as they were last week. Parity reigns supreme in the nfl. Anybody can beat anybody on any given sunday. We all knew the skins had issues, and 2 wins to start were great, but increased all of our expectations beyond what they should have been.
Before the miami game how many of us would have been stoked with a 2 and 1 start. I know I would have been. Still in too much pain from yesterday to be happy with it today, but this loss will hopefully eliminate some of the complacency that was shown in the second half.

Posted by: nah | September 24, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

this blog entry appears to have been cut off short or something at the end there.

and to whoever says al should be on the field instead of in the booth is 100% Correct. williams is on the field, saunders should be too. part of saunders is how he interacts with players in practice, but what good is it if he isnt there on gamedays to interact with them and show them some tough love

Posted by: X | September 24, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

JG2.0 is like Chuck Norris. Everyone thinks your old and passed by but the fact is that you can still kick arse!

Posted by: bigfish | September 24, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Grouchy Jason is back...

Posted by: Icarus | September 24, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least they weren't "add homonym" attacks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Da Truef,

You just got served by SMG

It's on!

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

"And since..."

WaPo editors: Pull the plug on this a$$hat!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Don't you dare compare JG2.0 to me son

Posted by: Chuck Norris | September 24, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least they weren't "add homonym" attacks.

Posted by: | September 24, 2007 04:40 PM

Or add hominey attacks too - they can get messy.

Posted by: mile high | September 24, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it was Smoot who was posting here about the hammy/hemmy issue.

Posted by: Aha! | September 24, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Galbraith,

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST TOOL SHED LOSER THIS SIDE OF THE MISSISSIPPI!

JLA- keep up the great work, my man. People, like this douche Galbraith, forget that this is a blog, not a newspaper article.

ALL HAIL THE KIND DOUCHE GALBRAITH FOR BEING RETARDED!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: JLC Supporter | September 24, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

It is you!!!! Sweet welcome to the blog.

Name: a word or a combination of words by which a person, place, or thing, a body or class, or any object of thought is designated, called, or known

That is my name. If you mean legal name well that is your hang up not mine.

Also responding to "attacks" by saying you won't dignify it with a response is indeed....a response.

Posted by: DA Truef | September 24, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

or ad hemmy attacks

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

POT ROAST!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

SMG just got owned. Nice work DA Truef. What do I care what you use. I don't know you either way.

Using your real name doesn't make you brave my man.

Posted by: Just sayzin is all... | September 24, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA. IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Mr. "Canfora" upset you, Cork!

I hope you remember that I like the lid of my trash can placed on the ground next to the can, not directly inside of it.

Posted by: Gailbraith is a garbage man | September 24, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Anything is better than another lame "Hemi Ad" from Chrysler Corp.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Meowww!!!

Just kiddin', Jasno.

Ignore those haters. I've been around other "fans" and I've never seen such a group lose it, when the local media doesn't write/report glowing stories about their team all the time. Wilbon used to get it also and had to (and still does) say "I am not a fan."

Why don't these same people ask why news journalists don't write positive stories about US Government officials regardless of the real situation ("Oh, I bet that reporter is a fan of Britan's Parliment and he's resentful and jealous of our country").

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

We live in an age prejudice society.

26 year old reporters.

35 year old owners.

21 year old interns.

I am 33 and say 'let the good times roll'. The younger the better.

If we only talked about stuff we know I could not post on this blog.

Posted by: M&M | September 24, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Sacre blu!!!!

What iz zees? I am no longer good enough for you? Ce la vi.....

Posted by: nom de guerre | September 24, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Anything is better than another lame "Hemi Ad" from Chrysler Corp.

Posted by: | September 24, 2007 04:47 PM

Well, maybe not a J C Mellancamp Chevy ad, but eh.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

seriously, how many of you guys actually read Jasno's print articles? Me thinks people base his professionalism on how often he updates his pro bono blog.

quit the personal attacks, love it or leave it. Extreme Skins is always there waiting for you.

panties

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I swear, if I have to see that Mellencamp "This is our country" ad one more time, why....

I will put my printer in a garbage bag and throw it up in the air a few times.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

AH HA! I finally found you, Galbraith. Care to explain that chat log the other afternoon! You didn't show up, but we'll catch you, Chester the Molester!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. 14-year old boys don't actually like Mike's Hard Lemonade, you sicko!!!!!

Posted by: Chris Hansen | September 24, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"Using your real name doesn't make you brave my man."

No, I agree. I never said anywhere that it did.

But I did say that NOT signing a name when personally attacking someone makes them childish. As in, not an adult.

And I mistakenly typed "Lafora" instead of La Canfora".

There, I'm big enough and adult enough to both admit my mistake and to sign my own name.

Doesn't make me brave; it makes me an adult.

SMG

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Just wondering, is it still our country?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Tom Boswell wears Jason La Canfora pajamas to bed.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | September 24, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Dorf- We need some jm220 rage to come swinging the hammer through the blog.

thongs

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

sacre bleu! c'est la vie!

nom de guerre, you got 1 out of 3 correct.

ne pas tres bien.

Posted by: Pierre | September 24, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

SMG?? What is that? Some kind of tough guy signature?

HEY LOOK AT ME, IT'S SMG!!!!!!!!!

I would kick my own arse if I was you.

Posted by: SMG HATER | September 24, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Dorf,

With all due respect, I'm tired of the "pro bono" excuse. If your department chair says, oh yeah Dorf, I want you to keep a blog for that class you are teaching, you do it.

And you assume that the blog is now an "added duty" that we all get from our bosses. Either you do it, and don't complain about it, or you start looking for a new job.

No?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again.....Do I have to come on here everytime you freaks get ready to jump off of a cliff!!! I swear, JLac and you other losers, next time I am letting you jump. Let's not get carried away. Who thought the Skins were going 16-0? That's what I thought? Back in August, who would have had a problem with the Skins being 2-1 going into the bye? That's what I thought. Yes, they blew the game, but that is how most losses occur in the NFL, people! Should it be excused, absolutely not. Everyone at Redskins Park should be held accountable for that deplorable second half, but why would you think this is the way the rest of the season will go? They played two good and half good games and a half of a bad one. I choose to believe they are the team we saw Monday night.

Now, there are problems. The Ladell Betts experiment needs to stop! No way in hell do you not have Clinton Portis on the field that last drive. Correct me if I am wrong, but the Redskins have exactly one running back who has a rushing td in every single game and he was on the frickin' sidelines? Joe Gibbs needs to fix this, he is directly responsible for that mess, my money says given two cracks at the goal line, Portis finds a way to get one of them in. Another problem is, the defense can't cover big receivers and big tight ends, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Dallas has the same type personnel as the Giants. Gregg needs to figure this out quick. Other than that, both the offense and the defense got their butts kicked in the second half. End of story people, the Skins still look like a playoff team, especially in the NFC.

Posted by: Will | September 24, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

hahaha Diddy! Yes, this is indeed our country.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree Dorf. But anyway what does anyone care what JLa personally feels anyway? Dude has an opinion like the rest of us.

You think he's an idiot? Great.

You think he's Norman Einstein that is great also.

Posted by: Skinz | September 24, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

There's the old standbye "job I get paid for" quote.

You know what, then stop doing the blog or stop complaining about not getting paid for it.

Every time someone takes you to task about something you write on this blog it's the same thing. Give it a rest already! You've done this for two years and people call you on it. Maybe for once, instead of calling people lunatics who disagree with you, you take a look in the mirror and say maybe they are right. Maybe I do have an axe to grind with the team and maybe I take that out on them whenever there is a chance.

Anyone who reads you, knows that to be true. Although the Washington Times loves you, b/c you single handedly increased their subsciption count.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | September 24, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Take a quick break from all the dull 'Skins talk. And, it is dull. The team lost. I swear, the way people go on and on and on it's a if they've never played sports or had a setback in life. People lose, teams lose, it's part of the circle of life. Hakuna Matata and all that. Mistakes were made, a game was lost. Nobody died (except maybe John from Herndon).

Get a grip folks.

One loss does not warrant "Fire them all!" just like one win does not warrant "Crown them!" How a man loses often tells you more about his character than how he wins.

And lest we forget, we are talking about a franchise that has done nothing for 16 years. They are the Arizona Cardinals of the east coast. That we even expect a win is something tantamount to a moral victory at this point.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"Care to explain that chat log the other afternoon! You didn't show up, but we'll catch you, Chester the Molester!!!!!!!!!!"

Chat log? I haven't been on a Post chat log since last year.

Let me repeat: I have no problem - NONE - with Jason criticizing the Redskins or anyone else. That's his job.

I do have a problem with him and other reporters who have a thin skin when the criticism is directed at them.

For some reasons reporters have the thinnest skin when it comes to criticism. They can critique others; but if other critique them, they get quite prickly.

Tough. If they wish to dish it out, they'll have to take it as well.

SMG


Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I also mispelled is and this as long as we're counting.

Posted by: nom de guerre | September 24, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling SMG is going to be a regular up here... give it time... He's rough around the edges, but he'll be BHGO like us in no time. He's the fall version of Jack.

plus, SMG reminds me of sub machine gun

I like it

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen Nate in the PDX up here? We need some of Nate's positivity to right the ship.

I guess after the Boren Ultimatum, Moses may be taking a break.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

It's funny I thought being responsible and accountable to those around you made you an adult. If I had known that sign your name did all that I'd have quit my job years ago.

Posted by: Skinz the soon to be drunk and unemployed PS3 playing sloth | September 24, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

SMG is right, of course. I have yet to meet a thick-skinned reporter. Jasno should be above the pettiness. Particularly for a guy who hasn't been 26 since 2000. High road, dude. Always take the high road.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

No one with any intelligence would subscribe to the other paper in town solely because of LaCanfora. The Times is no bad, recyclers won't even take it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

SCskins fan,

I can't say... I'm not the WaPo. Cindy Boren doesn't seem to mind the way he runs the blog... In fact, she's more than happy to fill in a update it with guest blogs or whatever. All I know is that JLC doens't seem to sweat it and he's been doing for a year now and unless you write the editors or contact the powers that be, it seems to me that its set up to be a fun 'service to the public'.

The comparison doesn't exactly translate IMHO

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Agree with Dorf...we should have no expectations at all about this blog.

Hanging out in a Starbucks in La Jolla, CA, and they're playing "Que Sera, Que Sera" on the in-store stereo. God, I love that song, but it's not the Doris Day version... No one here seems to know who sings it, either. Anyone know?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"I have a feeling SMG is going to be a regular up here... give it time"

No way, sports (the Skins) are a diversion.

I'm home with the flu and I do have a life to live.

Again, not to sound repetitive, the complaints from reporters (in all fields) when they are critiqued is silly. And Jason's kneejerk reaction when criticized is a prime example of it.

If the idea behind the First Amendment is to have a free and full exchange of ideas - good, bad and indifferent - then reporters should welcome criticism of their work.

I'm not attacking Jason personally. I'm attacking his professional work. I'm sure he's a fine guy, a great neighbor and all that. But his professional work needs some adjusting.

End of story (right).

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Diddy- How about that? We're p*ssed off that we're 2-1. That in and of itself IS progress.

Now, if Apple and EMC had gone down today, I'd be really peeved...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy--You into the spirit of Hispanic Heritage Month yet? Cervezas? Margaritas? And Senoritas? The name of the game is to bury your tamale inside their tacos. Too bad it's only a month.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I have expectations...

They're low

at best

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone give us more of the context in which the Danny remarked about a certain 26 yo know-nothing reporter? I am too lazy to watch the interview or read through a transcript.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

pdiddy is right...what are you guys all upset about...im the one that lost their survivor pick over this game!!! lighten up...

Posted by: deadskin | September 24, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

J LaCantreporta:

Snyder mouthed off to George Michaels about the 26 year old reporter that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Does this mean everyone was right about the 30 something that bought and subsequently screwed up the Redskins?

Posted by: Agism Observer | September 24, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

"Just wondering, is it still our country?"

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 04:51 PM

Not quite sure ... I mean, I tried to check the maps, but its not like I'm Iraqi or South African or something. It looks like some country, but I'm not quite sure where it is.

- U.S. Americans

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

SMG, a questionnaire:

1.) Are you a Republican?

2.) What is your vocation?

I'd be glad to provide you with my address, bank statement, and social security number to justify my existence. I can also list my favorite movies, if you'd like.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

EMC just acquired Mozy. GREAT little company, love those guys. Nowhere near profitable, and very odd that they're based in Utah. But I love the service. EMC is very, very impressive with their latest rounds of acquisitions.

(Note: no relationship to EMC, just a shareholder.)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm 26.

Nothing to report from where I'm sitting.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Dorf,

I agree that this here little blog is a fluff piece for the WaPo, and I really have no idea why they run it in the first place. No one looks at the ads.

JLaC is just a bit cranky from the lack of sleep and all.

The SCSkinsFan abides.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

>>> "- U.S. Americans"

This NEVER gets old. I could end up a middle-aged man with a huge paunch, no life, thrice divorced, moved back into my mother's basement, still rooting for the 'Skins, still wasting my days posting on this blog, but watching the video of Miss Teen SC will always, always, always cheer me up.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy,

I think you just described Jack.

I kid. I kid.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I must admit, I knew everything when I was 26. It's only old age that has made me forget stuff.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm not down with biting that hand that feeds ... my incessant need to hit the button to refresh ... down with Jasno-bashing. down with H-P Printers. up with maps. If The Owner WAS referring to Jasno as a 26 year old, down with ageism!

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I love you guys.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

what did I miss? Someone firing shots at JLC??? Why?

the Skins came out flat AGAIN in a game they should have won. Good teams win those games, we are not that team... yet.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | September 24, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

And there's no doubt that no matter how poorly the 'Skins lose, we should all thank God that the Global Map Crisis has been abated.

Maps!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't know... I'm been contemplating botox as well as watching Chuck on NBC.

I can't speak for Jasno, but as I see things in my own life, sometimes things that start out fun turn into obligation and something you are maintaining for posterity. Email him. I can assume the RI is pretty low on his totem pole on the to-do list.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

TDawg:
I don't understand the questions. What do they have to do with the Skins and Jason's coverage?

Reluctant to give out personal information of any type - other than my name - because there are crackpots out there. (there's an opening for my critics).

Present company excepted.

If you want any personal information from me, I'll provide offline.

Still don't know what the point is.

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan,
They run it for the number of website hits that the blog generates. The more people visiting the website itself the more money they can generate from advertisers. Honestly, JLC does have a following and the blog does generate a lot of hits, so if he's not getting paid for it that's his own fault, not ours.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | September 24, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Diddy the Skins are far from the Cardinals of the East Coast. It's been bad but it hasn't been that bad.

Posted by: LH | September 24, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I have a baby, but I wouldn't use him as an excuse for being inconsistent at my job...if you didn't have time to criticize the team last Tuesday, couldn't you have done it on Wednesday? If you hate writing this blog so much, then don't do it, but really you come off like a teenager who just got dumped by his girlfriend and has a acute desire to bad-mouth her to anyone who will listen.

Many of us fans are in touch with reality...we don't need you to be so smarmy in pointing out the team's weaknesses.

Posted by: Adam NYC | September 24, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Inigo, I can't believe you were able to summarize the previous three threads in so few words without even reading them!

[except the under-noticed part about the Harley Davidson Washington Redskin cheerleaders.]

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

SMG,
Just questions; but I understand and respect your privacy.

Just curious is all.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Is it any coincidence here on the Internets that MAPS spelled backwards is SPAM?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Adam NYC

Yeah, what Adam said!!

Now, everyone attack him (whew, I'll make my escape now and get some orange juice for this flu).

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Forgot full disclosure from my 5:03. Just a shareholder of the stocks. Not affiliated with them in any way or recommending you buy them.

(unless you want to make money.)

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, Dorf. Last I checked, there was no Pulitzer in the "Blog" category.

I am just wondering if Reid will get a chance to take over some of the load up here, or if this gig is a JLC exclusive.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Sub Machine Gun

I think you're being messed with.

I find it's best to just abide.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Inigo, I think people lack perspective. 1990 was a tough season with a growing QB (anyone remember that Colts game where Rypien threw an INT to lose it with no time on the clock? The playoff game against the Niners?)

It's a quarterback's League. You go as far as your QB will take you. (excepting, of course, the 2000 Ravens)

Right now, we have a young, inconsistent QB who can play brilliant at times and poorly at others. Patience, patience, patience...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

SMG,
Your self righteous posting is a welcome diversion on this bleak Monday. Here's to your flu lasting all season!

Posted by: Donald Pickering | September 24, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

How old is J3?

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

we are 2-1 and thats in the bank....my repeated theme is we will go as far as the offense will take us....JC still misses some easy stuff, and under pressure needs to make quicker decisions....our defense is good but not great ....great defenses can get after the qb....we can't ...we are solid and will stay in most every game...get used to yesterday....if we improve offensively over the course of the year we have a chance in the nfc...to improve we need a contribution from another wr and JC needs more developement....Win or lose you are watching the future so stay focused on that...and that in the end is what is different about this team from all the other teams over the last 15+yrs.

Posted by: Old School | September 24, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh my god! Galbraith IS a business professor??? I thought that was a joke!

http://www0.gsb.columbia.edu/whoswho/bio.cfm?id=55879&nav=n

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Cindy said this weekend that J3 (Reid) will start blogging once he gets settled in his job.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"... Honestly, JLC does have a following and the blog does generate a lot of hits, so if he's not getting paid for it that's his own fault, not ours."

Posted by: TheGuru10 | September 24, 2007 05:12 PM

Without disagreeing about the JLC bit, I think the RI Blog Collective is a community itself (of which Jasno is a part) and itself has a following. Witness the self-referential existence of a blog about the blog.

In the words of Ms. Edna Krabappel, "c'mon people, this poetry isn't going to appreciate itself!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Fan(atics) = "in touch with reality"?

May I suggest a course in logic?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

TheGuru10,

Wow, I had no idea that I was making the WaPo money by constantly pressing F-5.

No wonder Cyndy has a posting like mad men up here.

It's all about the Dolla Bill!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

***** Fantasy Post ******

My team blows.

*** End Fantasy Post ***

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

TDawg:
"Just curious is all."

Okay, I'm a "swing" voter. I voted for Clinton twice, Gore once, Bush once, Reagan once, Dukakis.

I work for a scientific abstracts company that publishes (mostly online stuff nowadays) technical abstracts. We collect and index technical papers (about 26 different fields).

Yes, I sit behind a screen 10 hours a day editing documents. Very exciting.

Pays the bills. Good company and good people. Could be worse.

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

lighten up people...jlac is a busy person...2 young kids and the skins beat...both are 24x7...he has no obligation to post to us...

Posted by: deadskin | September 24, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad you have time to worry about semantics...the point is you can still root for the Skins and realize the team's flaws at the same time.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"Michael: "GM: So you're saying that you give the fans MORE through your Internet and everything?"

DS: We give them unfiltered.

GM: What does that mean?

DS: Well it's not filtered by a 26-year old reporter that really doesn't know necessarily what's really going on. Doesn't necessarily meet with the coaches, the players, that doesn't have a clue but yet makes an opinion about a left tackle in comments that you say to yourself, 'You know, they obviously don't have a clue what's really going on.' So what we're delivering is the truth."

Posted by: mile high | September 24, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Bored and passing time before my flight this afternoon, and since I've reached the end of the Internets...here's a question for the hamsters:

"Favorite Super Bowl moment?" Doesn't have to be 'Skins related.

For me, it's "This one's for John!", Pat Bowlen accepting the Lombardi Trophy. I adored Elway (almost as much as I adore Favre) and was really pulling for the Broncos in that game.

Favorite 'Skins Super Bowl moment: Doug Williams accepting congratulations from his teammates upon learning he was named the MVP of the Super Bowl. I think I cried. I was 14 years old and knew even then how important that day was outside of sports. I make no apologies for saying that I would have cried that day even if I was 64.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins aren't controlling the message. They give you all the interviews unfiltered when the Media including the WashPo can only take 2 or 3 lines that they think works best with the story. I don't have a problem with anything of that nature.

Where the problem lies is when there is harsh criticism ala Steve Czaban. But, Steve might have been out of place. I to have been 'reprimanded' at my former job because I spoke up about inequities I saw and the head honchos told me I asked the questions in the wrong place at the wrong time. After reflecting on the situation, I agreed (somewhat) and realized I have to pick and choose my battles.

JLaC, you can't take on the owner, so be careful how you pick your battles. Both of you guys are right to a point, but you want to be the bigger person (no pun intended) in this situation. He was right that you (most writers) have never played football and that you don't know exactly what they are talking about all the time. You only go off of what your expert sources are telling you. Unnamed sources will be the death of us all..........

Posted by: 4th | September 24, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs needs to either turn it completely over to Saunders or cut him loose like Billick did with Fassel last year. I say let Saunders air the SJK'ing thing out. Especially with a depleted line that can adequately pass-block but can't zone-block on runs worth a damn.

But if you're going to play "Redskins" smashmouth football, do it, and do it consistently.

Anyone remember 2 seasons ago, home game (forgot against who), Redskins on the opposing 1-yard line, needing a TD. Handoff to who?......Sellers! Up the middle (fumbled after the play)...TD!

Posted by: RambleOn | September 24, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mile high | September 24, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

We are not the Cardinals East...

Cardinals won an average of 6 games a year last 15 years.

We won an average of 7 games a year last 15 years.

You can see we are a lot better

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

dcsween, do what I can. I am coming back from having a baby on Thursday last week and a terrible-heart-wrenching-I-work-with-a-giants-fan-that-I-hate-loss!!!!

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | September 24, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

thanks mile high...

insightful

DS = somewhat jaded to the common man's plight.

You know how people always complain about obstructed views at FedEx... I was in that seat last night.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

diddy - where in la jolla? i used to live in sd...

Posted by: nah | September 24, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder delivers the truth???

Get your lives in order - the world is soon coming to an end.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

why don't they bring back joe salave'a

Posted by: go skins | September 24, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

my favorite is "what we're delivering is the truth"...no, what you're delivering is overpriced beer, horrible parking, and a mediocre team with high expectations and a rabid fan base.

Posted by: mile high | September 24, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I abided in Scripps Ranch for 2 years.

true story.

Redskins*

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Snyder said: "Well it's not filtered by a 26-year old reporter that really doesn't know necessarily what's really going on. Doesn't necessarily meet with the coaches, the players, that doesn't have a clue but yet makes an opinion about a left tackle in comments that you say to yourself, 'You know, they obviously don't have a clue what's really going on."

Take out the age and I think we all know who he's talking about.

Posted by: If the shoe fits... | September 24, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

SB XVII- Dick Enberg: "He's going to go all the way, unless Blackwood can catch him....". In the backround, very faint but audible, you can hear Frank Herzog from the next booth doing the radio call, yelling "HE'S GONE, HE'S GONE."

Chills everytime, man. Just chills.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

nah, I'm at a Starbucks so no idea where, exactly, I am. Have to leave in an hour for the airport. I'm down here interviewing for a job. I adore San Diego, but my life is in Seattle now and for the forseeable future. These guys get that and are willing to work with me on it. There are worse things in life than living in (tax-free) WA State and commuting to (sunny, warm, bikini-filled) SoCal weekly.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, 16% better than the Cardinals.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

>>> "You can see we are a lot better"

anonymous, I stand corrected :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

If you adjust for the East Coast Sports Bias, then that 16% pretty much goes away and I'm still right :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Donald:
"Here's to your flu lasting all season! "

Thanks. If you were here, I'd give you a big wet kiss.

Tongue included. Lots of phlegm baby, lots of phlegm...

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I didnt think the "Q&A" with Ds was THAT bad, he doesnt like JLC. So what? He doesnt like the Post in general and he was right, everything is peaches and cream when you are winning. So start f-ing winning!!!!

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | September 24, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

What East Coast Bias???

Posted by: ESPN | September 24, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

diddy- no doubt about it. best of both worlds. sd is a great city, with tremendous talent but the cost of living is ridiculous. drove me outta town a few months ago.
i've only been to seattle for 1 day--the playoff game a couple years ago. i'd like to get back and check it out a lil more.

Posted by: nah | September 24, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

This is almost as bizarre as the pitcher a few years ago who went on the DL because his hotel pillow hurt his neck:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3033679

(that pitcher, whose name I forget and refuse to remember, was, naturally, on my fantasy team)

God I hate baseball.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The Dude: Oh, Jesus, what's that smell, man?

Auto Circus Cop: Yes, probably a vagrant slept in the car. Or maybe just used it as a toilet and moved on.

Posted by: Best Movie Ever | September 24, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I spent the better part of the last 10 years hating Seattle. But as I get older, I realize that my friends here ARE my family...and the restaurants and bars (my two biggest passions in life) are much, much improved. I attribute my change of heart to old age. :-)

I'd actually say that food-wise, it's on par with DC (which is NO slouch in the restaurant department). Nowhere near NYC, SF, Chicago, or LA, but definitely in that second-tier of American cities.

Oh, and it's not the rain that kills you here, it's the darkness. In the winter, it doesn't get light out until 9am and it gets dark by 3:30pm. The rain is largely irrelevant, you just get used to it. Summers? Nowhere in this country is better than Seattle. Nowhere.

If you're ever in town, you know where to find me. As Nate will attest, I'm like a mini roving Chamber of Commerce for this town :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Should add Vegas to the list of top-tier food cities in America. The Wynn alone has 2 of my 10 favorites...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Bloomington, Indiana has the #4 ranked pizza place in the country, and another pizza place that won the best individual pizza award in 2001 (bacon, gorgonzola cheese, red potatoes, garlic, onions, and mozorella cheese).

Plus there is some fine BBQ 'round these parts.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I know what you mean diddy. If you need food/bar advise in sd, you know where to find me.

Posted by: nah | September 24, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing about pizza...everyone claims to have "The World's Best Pizza". And, I swear, I love all pizza (except the Oreo kind), and I would have no qualms dedicated my life to sampling pizza and determining it for myself. When God created man and woman, he also created pizza for the times when woman was off shopping and the man was home watching football. It's in the Bible, look it up.

Posted by: TDawg | September 24, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Goog god LC thats some snap on the tail of that post.

Posted by: 35332 | September 24, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

"I am coming back from having a baby on Thursday last week..."

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | September 24, 2007 05:24 PM


Biggest, happiest news of the day up here! Finally, something to smile about! Congrats to you, to your father, and to all the Montoyas!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 24, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Since Gibbs' return in 2004, the Skins have lost 10 games when leading at the half (they led in about 24 games). Several of which where they had a 7+ point lead. I don't know how that compares to other coaches, but that seems like a lot to me.

Posted by: CMoney | September 24, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Dorf,

With all due respect, I'm tired of the "pro bono" excuse. If your department chair says, oh yeah Dorf, I want you to keep a blog for that class you are teaching, you do it.

And you assume that the blog is now an "added duty" that we all get from our bosses. Either you do it, and don't complain about it, or you start looking for a new job.

No?

-SFSkins...


Ummm... No, actually. I'm a teacher and with everything we're asked to do besides teach, we have to be very protective of our time. In most places, the teacher contract says that if you are asked to do an extra duty, you get paid to do it.

That's why I started refraining from bashing Jasno's blogging.

I have a serious issue with "what he gets paid to do" and how he does it. I teach journalism and, IMO, he has flirted with outright bias and some sketchy reporting. I think he relishes the idea that he's beyond the reach of the corporate elements ath the park, but I think he may push too far to the other extreme.

And as for sween, I feel your pain today, sinsei.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Weird, "the funniest thing about Pizza" comment was mine, not TDawg. Must have slipped on the typing. Sorry TDawg.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

diddy, you end up in sd again, go to pizza port in carlsbad or solana beach. award winning beers and great pie.
adios blog. rollin to flaming lips concert.

Posted by: nah | September 24, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Last one. (I hear the cheers now. He's finally done!). Bill O'Lielly's take on dining in Harlem. Speechless, for once in my life.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007?f=h_latest

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I should mention that we are all here at Jasno's and the post's (and Cyn Cyty's) pleasure and that this little thing we call ours is really a figment of our imaginations.

So I can IMO all I want and it really shouldn't make a bit of difference to a professional journalist.

And now I'm doing what i said I wouldn't... I'll stop now.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"ST. LOUIS -- St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson will miss at least one week with a partial tear of his left groin, an injury sustained in the fourth quarter of Sunday's 24-3 loss at Tampa Bay.

Rookie Brian Leonard, a second-round pick from Rutgers, will get his first start Sunday at Dallas. Coach Scott Linehan said Jackson would be week to week."

I do believe we have us a white runningback. Of course, I hope he fumbles five times.

Posted by: SMACK | September 24, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

not sure if this has been posted but ESPN did a story on the most hated owner, coaches, GMs, ect; and guess who made the list.

27. Daniel Snyder, Washington Redskins: The kid with the new toy from the start, Snyder has thrown gobs of cash around since the day he closed the $800 million purchase of the team and stadium in 1999. Like Peter Angelos' Orioles, though, Snyder's Redskins have suffered instead of benefiting from his largesse. That's what happens when you install puppets in your front office and make zillionaires out of past-prime veterans like Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders and natural disasters like Jeff George.

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 24, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Ah, but who was #1?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 24, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Should be noted that nearly all rich people are at least a little bit crazy. And NFL owners, being among the most exclusive of clubs in the world, are indeed a crazy lot. Georgia Frontiere alone would occupy several chapters of any book written about crazy NFL owners. By most measures, "Mr." Snyder is less crazy, more megalomaniacal, and probably more reasonable than the multitude of his peers.

That said, while I can understand the NFL's desire to bring reporting in-house (faux journalism being all the rage among corporate America these days), I am fundamentally opposed to providing a disproportionate level of access to real journalists.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I am fundamentally opposed to providing a disproportionate level of access to real journalists.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 06:28 PM

Why?

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Was it last week on MNF? They were saying that in 2006 the Skins gave up more 11+ point leads than any team in the modern era.

Knowing that, it would be nice to hear someone on the coaching staff come out and say it how it is.

A disgrace.

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

kost,

Yeah, but Dale Lindsay was obviously to blame for all that failure, right?

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Damnit Teams should belong to the fans

Posted by: 35332 | September 24, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Did any of you actually SEE the Snyder interview? While he did make that comment, he did not make it in an arrogant way....and he certainly did not name Jason. Also, there is a lot of truth to his comment....I've watched many shows where Redskins players or coaches are being interviewed and the reporters sticking microphones in their faces do look 26 - or even 19.

Posted by: Lisa | September 24, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Simple. Because an organization reporting on itself only reports things favorable to the organization. Truth takes a backseat to marketing. While sports is hardly what I would consider an "important" issue (only in Green Bay do fans have a financial stake in the performance of the team, after all), it is nonetheless a principle I believe strongly in. We wouldn't tolerate it in government, we wouldn't tolerate it in public corporations, and we shouldn't tolerate it anywhere else either.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

MSG, sorry SMG, has the potential to become my favorite hamster. Bring it, baby, you are one serious MoFo.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 24, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

"We wouldn't tolerate it in government, we wouldn't tolerate it in public corporations, and we shouldn't tolerate it anywhere else either."

Including newspapers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Including newspapers."

NO QUESTION. Always question what you're reading. If you're not, you're not paying attention.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I did see all of the Mighty Midgets interview. 7 minutes of my life I will never get back. He said nothing, George asked nothing. I did want to know how Danny reacted to George calling him "Dan" on several occassions.

My favortie SB memory? XXII. I was in college, watching the game in the basement of my dorm with about 80 people. I was one of maybe 5 skins fans, and boy was I hearing it at the end of the first quarter. ANd I had a huge smile on my face at the end of the 2nd. Of course, the room was almost empty....

Posted by: Lee | September 24, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

It occured to me during 5th period economics that we're all missing the real reason we lost. It's the same reason gas prices are higher, Brittney chose to wear that spangled bikini at the VMAs, OJ figured he'd get away with it again, China is going to rule over us, Miss Teen SC identified the U.S. American map crisis, we have to suffer through another 482 days, $1 Canandian = $1 U.S. and of course polar bears are dying . . . .

Global Warming

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Everytime I see "U.S. Americans" my entire body giggles with me. God that just makes me happy.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have a link to the Snyder interview, I haven't seen it?

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 24, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

35332 - Over here, teams don't have owners. Each team has a President, CEO and a Board of Directors. If they aren't performing to a desired level, members (season ticket holders) can call a General Meeting and have them voted out. I guess it's a little closer to the system in Green Bay.

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Diddy,

I'm not sure I understand. You're against teams giving one journalist more access than another to the team as a way of trying to buy better coverage? If that's what you're saying I agree completely.

It's the same reason why imbedding reporters with a military unit will almos always result in a favorable bias toward that unit. The imbeds won't be there long if they start telling the whole story.

That's one thing I respect about Jasno. He is definitely not a corporate guy. I do think that Jasno's a bit of a contrarian and has trouble accepting simple truths at face value. It's a trap that many journalists fall into. You can find an anonymos source that verify al,ost any position you want to take.

Like you say, though, this sports not Judy Miller revealing Plame's ID.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I've decided it's my go to reason for all things.

"I haven't finished grading your papers because of Global Warming."

"I can barely walk because even though I'm in some shape 90 minutes of soccah still whips my arse thanks to Global Warming."

"I have a weakness for Flamin' Hot Cheetos, it's really due to Global Warming."

"I'm really bad at math because of Global Warming."

"The Cowpukes are making Global Warming worse." hmmm that's an exception to the rule.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey Innigo - big congrats on the new baby! That is excellent news.

All right I gotta go expand my carbon footprint and drive home.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

sfskin,

You a teacher? You should know better about that dept. chair blog comment.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - This is for you, vision isn't great, but the audio is marvellous!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bGv7ltJGPA

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Buges on channel 4 re: goal-line... We love that play, we practice that play, that's a great play for us. We didn't block right either time. That will be fixed.


Quittin' time for me.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 24, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

What happened to Nate. He hit and runned us. I feel so dirty.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 24, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

www.creedthoughts.gov.www\creedthoughts

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

sfskin - I think it's naive to blame the result entirely on Global Warming. I think that what is just as important, is the fact that Nelson Mandela couldn't help out, because Mandela's dead.

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Larry Bud - that wasn't me. Maybe SCSkins? I saw that and figured someone got it wrong as far as authorship.

Don't even get me started on job expectations for teachers and what we get paid for vs. what we don't.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm 26.

Nothing to report from where I'm sitting.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 05:07 PM

See you got to live your prime years through my eyes as well, huh? (I'm 27)

IM - Congrats my man! Hope everything is well. So sween and IM had their babies. We are due in December. Who else was/is left before the SB?

SMG - Bringing the heat. Don't leave. I use to get banged up by the regulars and JLaC when I 1st started posting here regularly. I think it was because I didn't understand how a blog actually worked. But, I am now family. And I still call out JLaC as I see fit, such as this post......

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 24, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

kost - LMAO! How classic was that? Did someone correct him? What was his response?

Is it on YouTube?

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I started my new job. I thought I would have to get rid of my moniker. But.....

At my new job, I work on the 4th Floor. So I don't have to change my name......

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 24, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

sfskin - I'm not sure what Dubya's response was, but I saw some footage of one of the reporters he was speaking to, and when Bush said it, you could tell from the reporter's face that he was thinking "Huh? Did he just say....??"

Haha Hilarious!

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Just read this blog from the begining of the comments. This joint is funny as SJK! Fo Real.....

Posted by: 4th | September 24, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

4th - I believe there is a little Nate due in November if I recall correctly.

Also hope new job is going okay.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh, how could I forget.......

Nate, its just me and you now, buddy. The baby is kicking like he wants to come out now!

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 24, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Inigo - Congrats on the baby!!

4th - Congrats on the new job! Enjoying it?

I think Nate is due in the next month or two.

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Here is the clip about Mandela. He's trying to make an analogy and no surprise it doesn't quite come out right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1KGwQ1O88Y

1/20/09 - Independence Day

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure most of you have already seen it but nfl.com stated that we've won (by default) the best looking throw-back uni contest :)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Depressingly true story:

After a hard day of FB, blog, work and personal life I drag my azz in the car to go home. Power up the Sirius listen to Howard Stern replay and avoid NFL channel like ecoli...

Guess what they were talking about:

Giants beat skins, Gibbs over the hill, fans in DC wanna run Gibbs out on the rail..


Great, where is anal ring toss when you need it!!!!!

Posted by: chris larry | September 24, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

sure is a bunch of teabaggin goin on around here

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Miss Teen South Carolina is Bush's Illegitament Daughter!

Mandella is Dead! Saddam did it, even though he is dead!

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 24, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Kost - I can't say if its going good or not. Its going, though. To be honest I didn't go on the # of interviews as I would have like because I wasn't in the mood to. But I will make the best out of this situation.....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 24, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I think this was a major slip of the tongue for George Bush. But not in the way you think. I think he accidentally showed what his intentions are once his term in the White House is over. He's going to run for Miss Teen South Carolina!

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Ok, what is the problem with unfiltered interviews. Go look at the CP interview on redskins.com....

That's a 3 and 1/2 minute interview. When you read the paper, you'll see maybe 10 seconds worth. The team is letting you view every question asked and the answers. Who can beef about that?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 24, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

4th, yeah, I suppose it take a little while to get a feel for a place before you can work out if you actually enjoy it or not.

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Kost, they are one in the same! When have you seen Miss Teen SC and Bush in the same room at the same time? Ne-ver!

Posted by: 4th | September 24, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha That's a swimsuit contest I'm NOT looking forward to!

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

OK, maybe he made a mistake about Mandela. At least he knows what tribal sovereignty is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMzHq4qIS0I&mode=related&search=

Posted by: LH | September 24, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Jason, keep giving us the straight dope bro.

Posted by: ShepSkins | September 24, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BillyBob | September 24, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse


Reviewed the last couple of posts and threads, and -- if there are any lemmings left alive calmly gazing out over the Big Picture -- here's my two cent perspective:

1. The Skins are 2-1, which everyone would have taken in a heartbeat if offered prior to week one. Granted, we would assume the Skins lost in Philly. I don't disagree that how a team wins or loses doesn't effect things, but, at the end of the day, 2-1 and a bye week to heal and readjust is not a bad position to be in.

2. Furthermore, outside of the Colts and Patriots, no team and reasonable fan base expects a 16-0 season, or even 12-4. The Skins are what they are -- a young team with great talent that lacks experience and a recent winning tradition that inspires confidence and expectations. If RI Nation continues to insist on lurching wildly from one extreme to another after each week, pass me the Dramamine, please.

3. The only facet of this organization that DOES have a winning tradition is the coaching staff. It is absolutely fair to question them when something goes wrong, especially issues like time management, play selection, and personnel on the field. It is a specious argument to compare St. Joe's football credentials to Jasno's as some trump card why Jason should deign to ask the questions journalists are paid to ask. It's akin to not question Bush because he won re-election with more votes than any one in history because the journalist has never run for office and should defer to 54 million fellow Americans.

4. Jasno's supposed "attitude" was echoed today by none other than Bram Weinstein, the beat reporter for the Skins-funded XXX ESPN radio. He expressed surprise today that Gibbs "actually gave detailed answers" at his presser today vice the "usual fluff" and also said Gibbs was often "condescending" and thought the press corps didn't notice that he wasn't actually providing answers. The studio guys on the John Riggins' Show also blasted the staff for the debacle at the end of the game.

5. For Danny Snyder to bring up the age issue as a supposed reason why a journalist shouldn't be trusted is absolutely beyond the hypocritical pale. For him to then imply that only his controlled media tried to bring the "truth" to fans is similarly a mockery at best and ridiculous at worst. It's football, for God's sake, not national security. Snyder's shenanigans (and Bela-cheat's, for that matter) are insulting to a well educated fan base. Your methods and money have not consistently worked since you've been here, "Mister" Snyder. Playing the media card like some two-bit, scandal plagued politician will NOT hide this fact. If you spent as much time, money, and energy on containing your ego and finding a proper GM as you do playing fantasy football, sparring with the media, and threatening to send plasma TVs to players, perhaps the Skins would be further along.

6. The issue that undermines all others, to me, is this 7-headed Hydra of a staff that confuses itself and the players while failing to establish a consistent, clear team identity. The offense is so schizophrenic that it could take the field by itself and be shut down with an aggressive, phantom defense. Walk the talk, Joe.

7. All is not lost. Calm, calm -- everyone's calm but you. Keep that gaze firmly on that Big Picture landscape, my little lemmings. You can always still jump later. But, please, jump because you want to, not because some lunatic fringe sweeps you up and over.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 24, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Tell it Haiku.

Posted by: Stumped | September 24, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

HaikuMan is very good writer. Good points also.

Posted by: T | September 24, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Nice post 'Ku man. How long did it take you to work that out?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 24, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

4th Floor:
"SMG - Bringing the heat. Don't leave."

No, man I really am sick with this bug. But I've got a ton of work on my desk and have to somehow drag myself in tomorrow.

Ugh.

If I die tomorrow, I'm sure all my fans here will be deeply saddened (I'll remember to tell my family to install metal detectors and bomb-sniffing dogs at my funeral just in case).

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | September 24, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

JLC... no worries buddy. Keep up the good work. Don't entertain the haters... and sometimes we just like to give you SJK b/c thats what we do...

As far as the redsksin go... I'm not feeling the potential so much anymore. And I really hate to say that. They ran the ball like weaklings... IF the O-Line doesn't step up immensely we are doomed AGAIN. Let's pray that Santana can be healthy and the O-Lin steps up... if they do that will likely open up many looks for Cooley... We need to cream the Lions!

Posted by: E in VB | September 24, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Haiku,

Well done sir. Though I think the Hydra had 9 heads, did it not? though if you beleave Kevin Sorbos Hyrculese it had 3.

Posted by: 35332 | September 24, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - This is for you, vision isn't great, but the audio is marvellous!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bGv7ltJGPA

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 06:53 PM

Kost, I remember watching that live. I have watched this clip about 1000 times. I love when he goes Dennis Bergkamp aughghhhhhhghghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Five straight wins on the bounce and I'm still 100 pts short of Oz Oranje though. I got 131 last week and my captain didn't even play (v. Persie). I love that EPL league.

Posted by: SMACK | September 24, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Haikuman
you are now on ITA list you are
latest redskin blog post idiot to not get it? Talented? YOUNG? This team is OLD at both Tackles on offense and corner? The other corner is young but Sucks, 2 LBs are old,Safetys young and overrated, guards and center are AVG,D LINE Young and Old SUCK!

Posted by: List of ITAs grow | September 24, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

ITA
all KOOL-AIDE drinkers & DC SPINERS

Posted by: Blog reminder | September 24, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

This blog is for Redskin fan nation who are realists? all others proceed to Cartoon Network where your opinions & thoughts can be put to use?

Posted by: REDSKINS 2015 god willing | September 24, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse


35332: You may be right. Thought it was seven but could be nine. I could have used the kraken imagery as well, I suppose.

Mr. ITA -- I apologize for getting you all aroused with the phrase "kraken imagery" but I can assure you, it's not what you're hoping it was.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 24, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Gibbs to GO! His speed should be teaching his race car drivers to turn left.

Posted by: mycroft | September 24, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

If we are lucky maybe we can play in SB 2011 which is first one in Cowboys new stadium? Have the redskins hosted a SB in our Great history? Are the Cowboys more VALUABLE then our GREAT team even when we pay HIGHEST prices in league?

Posted by: Redskins2011 | September 24, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse


Redskins 2015: We are all fanatics, true. I only play the realist card when things get overly personalized and nasty. Kissinger is my hero.

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 24, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, winning cures all. i rember boden(broncos owner) was the most hated owner in the league or at least in denver and after they won a couple of SBs everyone shut up.

No one is going to change danny not even the press. skins will win. sooner than later.

at least the skins don't have jerry jones as an owner who actually thinks he built that 3 SB team.

btw, i've done 180 (not the first time up here)...after hearing that Weird Al didn't know that Portis wasn't in the package/play he called.

also Riggo was not being overly critical of the coaching staff. he blamed most of it on execution and he even liked the end around. so that made me feel a bit better.

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Haiku-Loogy
dont confuse ones arousement with your child porn which im sure is at your finger tip (No pun intended)

Posted by: ITA alert | September 24, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

diddy, you should really try prison break. best show on tv!

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Watch this...it will make you forget how badly Redskins suck for a bit

http://www.loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/228

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Napolean needs to buy Jeff Fisher and Albert Haynesworth from Tenny.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Miss Teen South Carolina Calls 911

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F226lI-lo5M&NR=1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

i agree jeff fisher! not the big chin dude!

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the game that's on now, I don't feel so bad. The Saints look absolutely horrible. WTF happened to them?

Posted by: JustMe | September 24, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Fisher just signed a multiyear extension.

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 24, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

we know NA...so was john gruden, bill bellychoke...

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - I had an indifferent round, didn't get a score from Van Persie or Gilberto. Thought Viduka was still injured so traded him, then he plays and scores twice!! Luckily though, I had Fabregas as Captain!

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO - if you didn't watch Miss Teen SC calls 911 you really have to it's pee in your pants funny.

BTW What exactly is a "spiner"?

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

think dumass meant spinner. spinning our poor play to make it seem good.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Brent Spiner played Lt Cmdr Data on Star Trek the Next Generation.

Is a "DC Spiner" somehow who is an android? There are plenty of pod people in DC no doubt but androids? Does this mean I'm an android? The Skins are androids? If they were wouldn't they be indestructible and therefore never lose?

How awesome would that play calling be?

St. Joe - "Number 1 engage. Make it so."

CP - "The plasma conductor has to hold one more play and that we can jump to warp speed." (He's obviously Jordi with the visor on his helmet.)

Soups - "Sir I think we can take on the Klingons if we use the photon array."

Hmmm who would be Counselor Troy? Her role was to always state the blatantly obvious.
When facing a hostile alien ship - "Captain I'm sensing danger."

Sheesh I totally just revealed myself as a TNG dork didn't I? Oh well.


Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Disappointed with the outcome of the game, but thankful that I was actually able to watch the 'Skins here in the 'Ville. Anyway, here's my take on the game.

CP & Betts should've had their number called more often.

Moss didn't take that last hit at the end of the game well at all. Maybe if his groin wasn't bothering him, he would've been able to make that one catch in the 4th quarter, but should of, would of, could of... you have to make those easy catches too man

ARE = H-E-A-R-T. Dude leaves it all out there.

The Receiver - Hey, at least you got some camera time on the sideline. How's that last album working out?

Cooley High - Did they leave you on an island blocking Strahan by yourself? Absolutely unreal.

Soupy... throw the dang ball dude! Stop being so hesitant and playing like a robot. PLAY the game and have FUN.

Maybe the D would be better off not getting any turnovers at all. They won the first two games that way. J/K. They made Ward & Shockey look like superstars. I had a bad feeling about that one.

Area 51, where are you? Left in Plax's wake?

Frosty Pro Bowl bound??? Keep it up Holmes.

That's all I can think of for right now.

Peace

P.S. Jasno, you don't babysit your own children.

Posted by: SKITV (Skins Fan In The Ville) | September 24, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

dealer - wass this one of the 2 losses you had, when predicting us to go 14-2? Or do we now drop to 13-3. I think I can handle that still.

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"I think there was some pressure," McIntosh said of the team trying to be 3-0 at the bye week. "Everybody was talking about trying to be 3-0, especially coming off an emotional win over Philadelphia.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow poor Tonk K and Wilbon...jut choked on MNF...did you see there stuck dumb looks...pretty funny, although I love those guys...

Posted by: chris larry | September 24, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

kost, no i hadn't. they were suppose to go 14 and Ohh and lose the last two to rest their starters. but yes, now we move down to 13-3.

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that was me trying to make the blog-department chair analogy earlier.

I guess it was misguided.

If the WaPo is making money off of us hamsters hitting F-5, JLC should get a cut of the pie. Then he would be a little more motivated to feed the hamsters.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 24, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

There is a very negative lurker here...

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

2 days later and......

WHY WAS PORTIS NOT IN ON THE LAST 2 PLAYS OF THAT GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Leevi | September 24, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Missed half time what happened?

I took my dog out for a walk and had one of those perfect moments. It's sundown so the twilight is falling and over Mt Sutro rises a big ole moon.

Beautiful gray blue sky, beautiful moon, soft evening air about 60 degrees. Everything sharp and clear in the air.

If there is a hereafter I would like it to be like this evening.

If I had KuMan's talent I'd compose some verse but I don't want to ruin it.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

There is a very negative lurker here...

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 10:25 PM
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Whoooooouuuuuuoooooohhhhh!!!! I am the ghost representative of our Native American Ancestors. The Washington Deadskins will never win again since Dan Snyder continues to merchandise with a racist, offensive, moniker.

Nah, I'm just f*#kin' witcha! The team just sucks.

Posted by: Dan Snyder 4 President | September 24, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan,
Its all good... I'm sure Jason is getting some compensation for BHGO up here. Maybe Cindy gives him a soccer (futbol) article to write as a secret alias...?

Anyone else start reading one of those giant "the world according to me" comments and immediately scroll down to the bottom to see who wrote it so you don't end up wasting your time with some idiot's rant? Haikuman, your dissertation was good and such, I'm just more used to the 17 syllables and such.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I keep thinking I dreamed that ....WHO DECIDED TO NOT PUT PORTIS IN??? WHO IS MAKING THE PLAY CALLING? IF IT IS INDEED SAUNDERS>>>TO HELL WITH HIM>>>PLEASE JOE TAKE OVER THE PLAY CALLING AND RUN THAT F&^KIN PIGSKIN!!!!

Posted by: Leevi | September 24, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it's too big a deal, we should still come away with Home Field advantage.

Posted by: kost52 | September 24, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

But Dorf I don't know how to do anything less than 1700 syllables! : ( You are missing my pearls of wisd . . . . err nevermind scroll away.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I am of the persuasion to have it changed... The Washington Dorfs ya'll. Dorf Stadium (in DC!) But I digress...

As an older brother, I can relate to the satisfaction one gets from harassing people with little jabs and pokes. Makes you feel big until your little brother grows up and is twice your size and could kill you... but I digress.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey lookee it's the Saints! Glad to see them making it happen.

AND the booth guys are ACTUALLY calling and commenting the game!

Surely a unicorn will fly by soon.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

who's the guest o' the week? Was Tom Arnold busy?

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm I'm guessing that Vizio isn't the "official" plasma TV of the Chargers?

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to all with well wishes... 4th I didnt know that you were expecting!!! I have been really behind on the RI nation, traveling for work, baby-having and the end of my quarter at work. Plus most of my free time has gone to watching the Skins in the past few weeks.

I know I've mentioned this before, but my wife and I had a daughter in 2005... right before the 5 game (6 including playoffs) winning streak. In fact the streak started here in STL, at a game I was at!!! Anyway, seems that we should have a bit of luck on our side with me having a boy this year and all. My wife got a picture of him in the nursery at night with his Redskins blanket instead of the standard issue blanket, its the funniest picture ever! Him sleeping with a bright B&G blanket next to like 10 other babies with pink and blue footprints on their white blankets. Anyway, I got a kick out of it.

P Diddy, I'm staying at the Wynn in Las Vegas in a few weeks, what restaurants did you enjoy there?

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | September 24, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Interesting....on Redskins Radio today...when Bram was going on about CP not being in on the goal line series, Larry Michael said he thought CP was hurt and that was why he was not in the game. Very strange since no one has mentioned that. Bram even asked Larry about that - if that is the case, why has no one said anything? Larry did not elaborate and maybe he is just guessing but then again he is very tight with Cerrato.

Posted by: Lisa | September 24, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - a bunch of us starting with dcsween were wondering if that was the reason he was on the sidelines.

But the question is did he take himself out or was he pulled? Not sure if the team will ever tell us. Remember Brunell and his shoulder.

Posted by: sfskin | September 24, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, CP said he was fine at that point in the game in an interview on redskins.com

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | September 24, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Absolute greatest NFL note of the weekend

CBS NFL insider Charley Casserly offered this gem on Sunday.

"Thursday night, a memo went out to all 32 teams which said, no longer will the cheerleaders be allowed to warm up in front of the visiting team locker room or do their stretching in front of the visiting team locker room or they can't go in the tunnel anymore. The reason - some players felt they were being a little distracted."

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

CP probably was going to let Betts have it.
Thinking it was a sure thing. Weeeell, I guess there is a problem with letting them make the call.

Posted by: Stumped | September 24, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Seriously... anyone else think we need a do-over with our 1st pick in the 2005 draft.

We should start a petition... Double Move a.k.a. Roy Rogers for Lights Out.

Anyone else think that if it was Roy Rogers back there instead of The Reaper on LBM's second INT, that he would've dropped that "Jackpot" toss. Dude probably sucked at "500."

Posted by: SKITV (Skins Fan In The Ville) | September 24, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

While past results are no guarantee of future performance, as long as the Skins can work the race card into this two week of criticism and come out in truly horrible throwback unis, they will annihilate the Lions

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | September 24, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Just checking in to basically agree with HaikuMan's 8:42. Well said.

Posted by: farstriker | September 24, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Double Move was always good at those "dead or alive" balls.

Posted by: Dorf | September 24, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

That Bullick guy's no Carlos Rodgers...

Posted by: EaglesFan | September 24, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

That cheerleader note is PRICELESS. That might be the best NFL note EVER.

Wynn restaurants: Alex and Bartolatta are the two you want to hit.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

lisa, larry michael is a fraud. he's karl swanson's extension, a pr guy for the skins. he is not a journalist. he is a puppet. he makes me sick. i don't listen to XXX when he's on.

i love bram though. and i heard him on riggo today. btw, riggo was so soothing it's not even funny. i could care less what any idiot talk show host says about the team. he tells you like it is.

but the saddest thing i saw was how happy jeff fisher was when VY threw that TD pass...he looked genuinely happy. why am i sad? because the skins have a 70 year old coaching staff. JC will have another system to learn next year or the latest in 2 years. oohh well!

Tenn 31 NO 14.

NO is done.

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

apparently gibbs took CP out not CP or weird al. my venom was misdirected. honestly i think i could've done a better job calling the plays in that final series. did you guys see Tenn pound it in from the 1 and the 2 for two TD's and then VY rolled to the right and faked like he was going to run it in from the 5 but passed it to a wide open wr. :(

can we borrow fisher for a year?

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I love Monday night teevee. Hope you east coast peeps got to see "Chuck". Best new show of the season, easily. "Heroes" in 30 minutes. "Journeyman" is silly but nowhere near as silly as most shows. "Friday Night Lights" starts up in October.

"Lost" starts up in January, and "Battlestar Galactica" in February.

"Bionic Woman" could possibly be the dumbest of all the new shows, BUT they just hired the showrunner from "Friday Night Lights" as a consultant to rescue the season. Expect it to pickup dramatically after a few episodes.

Tonight's TV jibba jabba brought to you by the ghost of Johnny Carson.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 24, 2007 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Nate, Willie, Stumptown Chris:
I missed the meet up at OD, because I was running late and the game had already started. I stayed home to watch the game and indoctrinate the kids, who watched the entire first half of the game with me and now know which team to root for.

We'll they got bored at halftime and went outside...
You know the rest of the story.
See you guys after the bye.

Posted by: Stumped | September 24, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Dealer, the QB coach, Lazor, is far from 70....I think he is only around 30.

Posted by: Lisa | September 24, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so our team won't go undefeated.

But look at the bright side, hamsters no more blogsprints, cause the aborenimation is behind us...now a footnote in RI history.

Here's a souvenir.
http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/RI+Stats+Page%3A+Boren+and+Beyond%21

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Stumped - Looks like I just got over the line! Was a master stroke for you to start LenDale White over Deuce McAllister! Nearly got you the win!

Posted by: kost52 | September 25, 2007 12:12 AM | Report abuse

I had to do something; but it wasn't enough.
It was odd having Bush and White in the lineup, I was just rooting for offense.

Of course if Santana hadn't been overthrown yesterday...we'd all be singing a different tune.

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Not wrong there!

Can't believe the score Zebra put up! Especially when you consider he had big numbers on his bench as well!

Posted by: kost52 | September 25, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

P.S. Jasno, you don't babysit your own children.

Posted by: SKITV (Skins Fan In The Ville) | September 24, 2007 10:13 PM


Hahahahaha. Too funny.

Posted by: I Get Jokes | September 25, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

He sat Romo. We'll good for him.

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Give the team a chance to redeem themselves. The weekend of games was
a turnaround for others. Let's wait and
see what the record is after the 6th game.
Good things come to those who wait, but
don't wait too long!!!!!

Posted by: George Costanza | September 25, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

They say: It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game.

What they don't say: If how you play the game is badly, you lose. Oh, and bye the way, losing really su@ks.

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

F SMG who loves himself a little too much that he sucks his own SJK.

Jason keep up the good work.

Posted by: unsigned just to piss you off | September 25, 2007 1:23 AM | Report abuse

*** Random alert

I asked earlier about "Que Sera Sera", and it turns out the version I heard was, in fact, Doris Day. But in my search for the song, I also found a band called Pink Martini. Awesome stuff. Anyone else a fan?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 25, 2007 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Brief visit. Miami 0-3, ugh.

Redskins lose to Gints, double-ugh. I listened to all of Q3 as I drove to airport, Sammy and Sonny were pretty livid with what was going on, seems like they were right.

But at least you guys are 2-1!!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 25, 2007 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Pink Martini are from PDX, Diddy. Beloved down here, from what I gather and for whatever that's worth.

Redcoat... agreed on the ugh and double ugh. Dude, I thought we made a deal that after losing to the Skins, your Fins would win every game, especially the other three against the NFC East. Thanks, thanks for that, really...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 25, 2007 2:42 AM | Report abuse

I can only imagine what Sonny and Sam are saying.

Diddy,
Pink Martini is big here in PDX and also gets rave reviews in Europe.

Also check out Amelia www.ameliaband.com if you like Pink Martini.

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 3:36 AM | Report abuse

RBs are washed up at earlier ages and its another reason the trade that sent Champ (which CBs have longer careers)& 2nd rd pik to denver was a Retarded trade? Coach Gibbs sees what we dont want to see? That CP has been injured the last 2 yrs and the older you get the longer it takes to heal? Some over 30 never do completely heal? So you kool-aide drinking fans CLINTON PORTIS is WASHED UP!!!

Posted by: Heres a novel idea on CP | September 25, 2007 4:46 AM | Report abuse

1 Coaching staff
2 Scouting dept
3 QB
4 LT
5 RT
6 CBs both
7 2 WRS
8 D-LINE
9 2 LBs
10 Goals that can be achieved

Posted by: Some little things this team needs? | September 25, 2007 4:52 AM | Report abuse

btw, i've done 180 (not the first time up here)...after hearing that Weird Al didn't know that Portis wasn't in the package/play he called.

also Riggo was not being overly critical of the coaching staff. he blamed most of it on execution and he even liked the end around. so that made me feel a bit better.

Posted by: dealer | September 24, 2007 09:28 PM

Where did Saunders say this? I believe it though. He never knows when CP isn't in it....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 25, 2007 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Press Conference: Clinton Portis
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Clinton Portis answered questions today for the media about the loss to the Giants. Here is the transcript:


On his plans for the week off:

"I'm going to get healthy, get some rest. I'm going to try to catch my little cousin play some high school football down in Mississippi on Friday, but nothing major."

On if he was banged up on the last series of the game against New York:

"I was fine. They gave Ladell (Betts, RB, #46) an opportunity and as a team we didn't get in."

On if the question, "Why wasn't the best player on the team on the field" is fair:

"I take that as a compliment, but I think Sean Taylor (S, #21) is the team's best player. Some people think it is Santana Moss (WR, #89) and some might think it is London Fletcher (LB, #59), or someone else. You know what happens. If (Betts, RB, #46) had scored that touchdown, it wouldn't be a problem. But we didn't score, so now it's 'Well, why wasn't Clinton in?' Who is to say I would have scored?"

On if he was surprised by the lack of running game:

"Things happen. I'm surprised we had four three-and-outs in the second half. For us, as an offensive team, with the offensive power that we have, to not be able to convert third and short, and not be able to convert on the goal line. You couldn't have told me, with the way we have been playing, that we wouldn't be able to convert third and one. All season we were perfect, until yesterday. To get on the goal line, and to have an opportunity, we really messed up a lot of opportunities yesterday."

On if the decision to depend on Ladell Betts (RB, #46) or himself at the end of the game was fair considering how little the running game was used up until that point of the game:

"I think that for myself, Ladell, and Rock (Cartwright, RB, #31), we are just buying into it. When they put us in, they know we don't take five plays to warm up. We know we are going to be in staggering. You never know when your number is going to be called. When it's called you just have to go out and execute. We had a play where Ladell came in and had a big run, a 10-yard pick up, and that was his first play of the game. You know the expectations are always high and you want to go out and succeed."


On his thoughts while watching the last series of the game:

"I was thinking Ladell (Betts, RB, #46) was going to get that yard. I really felt like he was. There wasn't an argument going on over on the sidelines like 'Why am I not in'. They called the play, Ladell was in the game, and I'm sitting over there like, 'Please save this game for us.' It gave us the opportunity to stay undefeated but it didn't happen."

On the Giants defense on the last play:

"Anything is possible. They didn't do anything that was spectacular that we didn't know they were going to do. We didn't come out and do anything they weren't expecting us to do. Once you get out there in between the lines, people know plays all the time. You have to go out there and stop it. If we had to do it all over again, who knows what would have happened. But those two plays, they stopped us."

On if the team feels a loss of momentum:

"I don't think so. You want to go undefeated all season long. Everyone wants that. Once it doesn't happen, you have to figure out what's the next step. You have to figure out a way to continue to win. Now we are 2-1. We lost one game. Is that the end of our season? That's not going to make or break our season. But at the same time, what we need to do now is stop the bleeding. This week we have the opportunity to have a bye. The following week we play Detroit, who has been playing great ball. We have to go out and find a way to beat Detroit and if we do that we will be feeling good about ourselves again. We just feel bad because we let a game slip away. Up 17-3, you can't tell me our defense hasn't given up one touchdown in six games including preseason, will come out and give up 21 points in the second half. I wont believe that and I still don't believe that happened yesterday. As a team we have to find a way to bounce back and find a way to beat Detroit."

On his overall evaluation of the team's offense in the last two minutes of games so far this season:

"From what you see in desperation plays, I think we play great when it comes down two minutes. As far as our timing, we might be off with timing and blowing some opportunities. But as far as executing plays, when you put that ball up, receivers are going up to get it, knowing they are going to get hit when they come down with the ball. Then, keeping the ball alive and once we get down, I think it's our timing. We are catching penalties or blowing opportunities."

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Posted by: 4th | September 25, 2007 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Jason, I think your analysis of this past game was accurate. Still, I'm not sure I understand your reasons for not providing a recap of the Philly game. I know it was a short week for you, but you could have done a recap later on if you were busy on Tuesday. Most of us understand that life and higher work priorities get in the way sometimes. I'm glad you explained. It would be even nicer if that explanation wasn't one that linked your lack of a recap to the content of your previous posts "lunatic."

Here's the thing: your tone often make it sound like the whole experience is a chore. Take this post, for instance. I know the team's management treats the Post like crap. I know the owner is a little dictator douchebag. In fact, a lot of professional sports owners are douchebags.

That's no reason to belittle the posters who *sometimes* take issue with your coverage of the team by implying that they are sucking from the company teat and toeing the company line - unlike you. You are the purer one, reporting from a higher place with more integrity and less bias, resisting the temptation to sell out. C'mon. That sort of tone makes you sound like Bill O'Reilly.

As you've (repeatedly) said, the management and ownership of the Redskins are hamstringing this team. They counter every good decision with at least one bad decision, leaving the team stuck in mediocrity.

You're not the only one repeating this mantra, of course. And I think that's what people resent: sometimes, you make it sound as if you're one of the few voices of reason, sticking it to The Man. You aren't. The situation is fairly obvious to most people.

So while I agree with many of your views, I also think you're wrong sometimes. While I appreciate what you do, I also agree with Larry bud: it seems like you flirt with bias and sketchy reporting in order to support your views and reinforce your perceived role as a sports journalist covering this team. can I do both? Is that okay?

Oh, and HaikuMan: I agree with you almost 100%.

Posted by: jcabana | September 25, 2007 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Did not see the game and it seems like a good thing.

Did not read all the posts b/c I have a lot of work to do.

I will mention what I noticed about Jla's posts.

The first two games the recap (if there was one for philly) were not nearly as long as this one.

What I extrapolate is that Jla has a lot more to write about when we do bad.

Bias, maybe, vitrol, maybe, interesting none the less.

Work calls.

Heres to getting healthy and LEARNING FROM OUR MISTAKES on the bye week.

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse

I am a d bag. Don't you think?

Posted by: Matt Swengeli | September 25, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Couple things I noticed watching the game back...

From the start of the 2nd half to the point the Giants went up 24-17, every 3rd down except for 1 went the giants way on offense AND defense. It was something crazy like 14/15 when you combined offense and defense. We converted none on offense and stopped them one time by batting a ball down.

On the deep pass that Moss barely got his fingertips on in the 4th Q he clearly tweaked his hamstring halfway down the field. A hitch showed up in his stride and he grabbed it after the play, the announcers never picked up on it, but I think he hurt it the first time there and made it worse later in the game after catching another pass.

We ran left so much that by the time we got to 4th and 2 at the end of the game, the Giants had 6 guys just standing on that side of the line waiting for it.

In the clutch, when his team needed it, and despite an awful 2nd half by the entire team, Campbell played great.

Posted by: JB | September 25, 2007 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis says he was suprised by 3 & outs because of Redskins OFFENSIVE Power House?
Miami is 20th in D POWER HOUSE O scored 13
phily is 18th in D POWER HOUSE O scored 20
Gmen is 25th in D POWER HOUSE O scored 17
The Redskins Offense is Weak and lacks Big play capability on a CONSISTENT basis and in TODAYS NFL if you cant score more then 20 against Terrible Ds then Playoffs are unrealistic GOALS!

Posted by: CP says Offense is a POWER HOUSE? posted by 4th | September 25, 2007 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I've added a new page to the Wiki: "Mr. Snyder, A Balanced Redskin Insider Assessment." Please feel free to add your own pros and cons:

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/Mr.+Snyder%3A++A+Balanced%2C+Redskin+Insider+Assessment

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 25, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

ahhh Pajama day... I love 'spirit week'!

Posted by: Dorf | September 25, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Re: Gibbs Presser

I don't know if this has been covered here, but did anyone hear Gibbs in his press conference basically admit that the way this team plays, that every single game is going to be close? It's like he's conceding that either this team does not have the capacity to blow out another team, OR he intends to implement a strategy so conservative that blowing out another team is an unrealistic occurance.

Unbelievable. Am I wrong or does this just seem odd for a head coach - especially one wih numerous offensive weapons - to admit?

Posted by: RambleOn | September 25, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

as a parent I hate spirit week - the last minute - MOM! I need to wear only blue and white today! MOM! do we have any crazy hats?! MOM! it's pajama day and my pajamas are all in the laundry!

I'm a fuddy duddy, I know

Posted by: mmok | September 25, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

FYI

Gibbs said he didn't run QB sneak or Sellers because we "already did that this year" and the giants were shooting the gaps around the goal line.


Also,

Does anyone else listen to local sports talk radio and hear alot of the points that people bring up here being brought up by those guys. Like to the tee?

Just seems funny to me.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. Am I wrong or does this just seem odd for a head coach - especially one wih numerous offensive weapons - to admit?

Posted by: RambleOn | September 25, 2007 09:49 AM

Uh, what "numerous offensive weapons" are you talking about? The right side of his O Line was wiped out. His running backs are not putting up big numbers. He has an erratic QB, who will be good one day, but right now is very unreliable -- more picks than TDs, and randomly missing open receivers. He has receivers that see catching the ball as optional. They don't put many points on the board, do they?

I think it's very realistic, until this offense steps up, to believe that the games are going to be close. What do you think he should do? Step up and say we're going to blow out our next 13 opponents?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 25, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. Am I wrong or does this just seem odd for a head coach - especially one wih numerous offensive weapons - to admit?

Posted by: RambleOn | September 25, 2007 09:49 AM

Gibbs has always been "heart attack a minute." He says everything is going to be tough/close. This is nothing new.

Well RI, I'm back. Sorry, this is how I deal with a loss (I go all-media dark...no TV, no internet, no WaPo) for about 24 hours.

So now I can be reasonable. Yeah, this isn't how we wanted to go into the bye week, but we still have two beatable teams coming right up on our schedule, and we're only 2-1. There's still a lot to look forward to!

Posted by: redskirt | September 25, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

as a parent I hate spirit week - the last minute - MOM! I need to wear only blue and white today! MOM! do we have any crazy hats?! MOM! it's pajama day and my pajamas are all in the laundry!

I'm a fuddy duddy, I know

Posted by: mmok | September 25, 2007 09:53 AM

I'm with you all the way! Why should we put ourselves out just so the kids can have a good time? Oh, right. It's so they'll put themselves out when we're in a nursing home.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 25, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

nice wiki work TE!

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 25, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Its not funny Skinz, its that obvious, to everyone.

Someone better rethink the playbook and players they use during the off week.

The Gmen knew what we were doing, they adjusted at half time. We did not.

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

J LaCantreporta,

It's open season on Snyder after his shameless assault on our fearless blogmeister.

I was very glad to see the green light has been given and Feinstein was the first to set the record straight.

I hope you guys continue until Washington post staffers are getting the Tom Cruise treatment. At a minimum, I expect lavishings upon the LaCantreporta family.

Keep up the good work. If league scouts say Stephon Heyer is not an NFL tackle, I am glad to know about it. If they say Gibbs has a time management problem or is a poor GM, I want to know about it.

Thank you for all your hard work. Please don't change a thing.

Posted by: Snyder's Racquet | September 25, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

OK,OK

Dear Jason - dear? Take the high road on the trolls in here as well as the arrogant owner's jab. And please, please, someone, anyone accuse lil'ol me of being 26. And just in case someone is curious - yes, I am 26 and have been for the last 21 years.

*hugs* Jason - I realized you were traveling back to Philly and went to Redskin Park later that day last week. More justifiaction, sweetie, of WaPost getting you a blackberry (Cindy?).

Jason, I for one love what you do. Thank you *hugs*

And *hugs* to all my blogger peeps. I have another short story I'll share later.

Posted by: SallieMae | September 25, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I love Jason for doing this blog but I found his "analysis" yesterday to be useless. He sounds like a bitterly disappointed fan (that is suypposed to be my role). Yes, we do not run the two-minute drill well. Everyone knows it. Yes, we would liked to have controlled the clock in the second half but that was in significant part because none of the plays were working.

How about this great suggestion Jason makes:

"Run Portis behind Samuels/Kendall 3 times and see what happens."

We tried that. It is called the 2004 season. Should I pull out the game tape for you to "see what happens." The results were brutal. Good offenses in the 21 century keep teams off-balance with a mix of pass and run.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 25, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a football analyst by any means, but after watching some highlights of Sunday's games, and last nights game, we need to open our passing offense up. I see other teams completing 20 yard passes with ease, something we need to start to do, not just when the game is on the line, but throughout the course of the game. Teams are going to stack the box just like the Giants did. We need to pass to open up the running game.

Just my humble .02...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 25, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Boswell for that column today, bringing a little bit of sanity back. I also like to hear Campbell talk about moving on, he is unflappable and can hopefully let this tough loss roll of his back and learn from it.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 25, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

SallieMae, don't know how you can say that ....Jason is CLEARLY biased AGAINST the team. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Pulldownclaw,

I agree with you whole heartedly. Both Boz and "old school" had the best assessments of the long range view. Patience is the key, although that can be tough for hamsters. I looked up Mark Rypien's stats. He was drafted in 86 and was on "IR" for two years before he played. It was another 4 years until the superbowl win.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 25, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Goodness knows I'm not one to decry negative notes in articles. That's all part of doing the story--if the negatives exist, I want to know about it. I don't want to see Larry Michaels in a cheerleader's uniform, and I don't think many of you do either.

But JamesTuthill, I agree with you that the blog post yesterday sounded like a bitterly disappointed fan. Which made it unpleasant to read from a journalistic standpoint. I guess this loss was really tough on everyone, even those who (in theory) aren't even fans.

Posted by: redskirt | September 25, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I still can't figure out why anyone cares whether JLa is biased "against" the team or not?

Tell me why it matters to you?

I guess I just don't get it.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Here, here, Skinz! I'll say it again. None of the articles on redskins.com are even remotely interesting (the videos are good) because they have an obvious bias toward the Redskins. It's like reading the company newsletter. Dreck.

The WaPo does a fairly good job of covering our team, and even with Snyder restricting journalist access, it's still better than anything he puts his stamp of approval on.

Posted by: redskirt | September 25, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Skinz;

No reporter should be biased either way, especially if it gets in the way of reporting the facts.

I realize the blog is not held to those standards as it is more freeform.

But so it is the same for those who respond. They can criticize if they like.

I think most try to point out that Jla is overly critical when we do bad and underly positive when the team does well.

But what do I know, Im just a Zebra.

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Although I'm somewhat pleased by the progress of Jason Campbell, two words describing his overall performance I'am already T-I-Red of is poised (He's an NFL QB) and unflappable (WTF does that mean?). Jason Campbell is a great young prospect, but although he doesn't kill his team overall performance (a la Rex Grossman), isn't the pressure on him to make significant progress this year. Rex had a full year to start, stunk the joint up, and Lovie Smith still stood by him. Just within the last view days he has left people guessing what decision will he make (Don't be surprised if Rex is under center Sunday) Somehow I don't think this coaching staff will do the same. I think they give Jason until the middle of next season to show he is "The Guy". If he proves he is not then where will the skins turn, Casey Bramlet, Jordan Plamer, the draft, FA? However you view the situation, whether Campbell will turn the learing curv or the Redskins should probably leave the starting position up for grabs in training camp, two things are for certain Jason Campbell will make or break this franchise. The fact he was drafted in the first round and the Skins gave draft picks for him (Nothing new there) makes his progress that valuable.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Z,

It's not that I don't agree with you, everyone can say whatever they want.
My question is more the "why". I don't understand why it bothers people so much. In the same way that I don't understand why some people so ardently defend him.

I read Jason's articles and some are good, some aren't. I don't start giggling like a school girl when I like them and I don't get angry when I don't. It's just an article, he's just a guy that writes em. He's said as much before.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Skinz,

I am not sure if it really matters whether Jason likes or dislikes the team as long as he is insightful and usually I find him to be very insightful. This blog is must-read coverage of the team.

I found yesterday's blog, however, to be long on criticism/sarcasm/anger and short on any useful analysis. For example, his whole "you-paid-Brandon-Lloyd-10-million-and-now-you-don't-even-play him" rant was reminiscent of endless posts/discussions on his blog about Antonio Pierce and Duckett and Archuletta other real and perceived front office mistakes. So he was adding nothing to the discussion.

Therefore, I think it is reasonable for folks to ask whether some bias is affecting his reporting.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 25, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

JT, I think the blog is not the same as his actual reporting that appears in the WaPo. While Jasno uses the blog to keep people up to date with the ongoings of the Redskins, it is also a forum that he uses to express personal opinion. That is the very nature of a blog.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 25, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

James,

See that is where I completely disagree. If you pay someone that much money in the salary cap era and yet he doesn't play I think it's a legetimate question and/or critism. Paying someone top 10/position money and them not getting on the field = only one thing...a massive mistake.

Other than that he said:

40 Runs= win. I think that's a bit of the tail wagging the dog but whatever. He has the stats.

He Critiques the goalline: I completely agree on the Sellers and QB sneak. I said it earlier on the previous post.

Watch the rightside: No negativity there.

Carlos Rogers: I am so with him on this. Troy Aikman even commented about it.

JC: He defends him.

ARE and Frosty: He compliments.

AP lives to play us: Look at his stats for the game and disagree.

Front Office and George "the homer Michael: Can't argue with him.


I still don't see all this negativity.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

CBT,

I agree. I was not using the term "reporting" as a term of art and certainly Jason can state his opinion. But often the blog has even better stuff that his print articles because it is the minutae that only Skins diehards care about (like who the 9th offensive lineman that will make the team is).

Yesterday's blog by Jason told me nothing I did not already know and appeared to come from a place of anger. I will come here to RI absolutely but it was a bad day for Jason (even by blog standards).

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 25, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Since when does JLa have to write or report stories that put the Redskins in a good light. Yes, he writes for the local newspaper and maybe should not be over critical of the team, but people are acting like our opinions and views are based on Jason's articles/blogs alone. Who ever is relying on a journalist to influence their views on any topic is simply brainless. Jason offers nothing more than the facts (80% of the time) and his PERSONAL opinion (20%) when related to Redskins football. People need to stop being so damn critical and cynical. The stench is dreadful with all the negativity in this blog, BTW I usually read instead of posting. People post the craziest things. MF's have nothing better to do all day but critique others, get a F'n life, have a drink, go on a date, something!

Ok...

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Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Janso is a funny but snarky writer, as someone who is also (might be...) a funny writer and definately snarky I dig him for that.

BUTT

It means that its gonna rub people raw, and as sensative fans we react! If he is gonna go for some laughs and be a bit snarky than blowback is gonna happen...nature of the snark...

I think he generally keeps that out of the newz stories. So no biggie. Also Janso is a good counter puncher and he knows that as a disher he also has to be a taker. Sometimes that comes off petty...but thats a drawback of his style.

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 25, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I can see both sides on this. I agree with J-Tut, in that yesterday's post seems full of piss and vinegar, and the posts after we've won games have been much shorter, with much less insight.

But he's got a right to do what he wants, I guess.

So lets say that Moss can't go against Detroit, what are the chances that B-Lloyd gets the starting nod? If not him, then who? Thrash?? Caldwell??

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 25, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"ahhh Pajama day... I love 'spirit week'!"

Posted by: Dorf | September 25, 2007 09:42 AM

Dorf, remind me, do you teach at the HS or college level? If the latter, then I am envious (if the former, I feel dirty).

On a side note, did Eli do those flappy elbowless arm signals at the line of scrimmage last season? Or is this a new thing he picked up from his flappy elbowless arm signaling big brother in the offseason? The fan roar required Eli to do that on four consecutive plays in the third quarter ... I feel like I was watching Bert on Sesame Street.

Posted by: dcsween | September 25, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Skinz,

I agree with you that the Lloyd deal was a mistake. It was probably, in my opinion, the worst FO move of Gibbs 2.0. But what good does it do anyone to bring it up every day?

That is why it falls in the category of Pierce, Duckett, etc . . .

Having made the mistake of trading picks for Lloyd and then paying him big money, what did the Skins do Sunday that really warrants a mention? They played Lloyd sparingly. Is that news?

You could do this for every team not the Patriots or Colts. Start every single Ravens article with, "Having traded up boneheadedly to pick Kyle Boller years ago the Ravens have no reliable back-up qb, blah, blah, blah, . . ."

Just keep reliving old mistakes. Given how little Lloyd plays, it is gratuitious.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 25, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Thank you, JamesTuthill.

I read Jason's blog for analysis that only he can provide - that you can't get other places. And, more often than not, I am happy with what he provides. However, too often he gets bogged down repeating the same crap we've all been repeating for at least 10 years now. And sometimes this perspective (I see it as a 'slant') affects the quality of his reporting (Heyer, Stephon being a recent example).

I think those who disagree with you get the impression that homers get annoyed because Jason is bashing the team. I think Jason might sometimes get the same impression. Nothing could be further from the truth. I bash the Redskins' front office and players all the time. But if a reporter is going to write negative analysis, I'd like him/her to provide something insightful and new. Something you or I might have missed, or might not have heard 50,000 times from 15 different sources over the past 2 days (or the past 10 years).

I understand that might not happen every single day, but I'd still like to see less repetitive ranting. I think you, me and other posters can handle the repetitive ranting part of things.

Posted by: jcabana | September 25, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

JT and Beantown Greg,

See I don't see yesterdays as that much more negative than some other posts from last year. I know you two have been around since then also to see it all so maybe i'm just not seeing it.

He was bashing BLloyd last year talking about him being the worst #2 reciever (statistically) in the history of the NFL.

Just curious do you guys think shows like PTI does to the cred of Korny and Wilbon?

Maybe I just like the idea that JLa has a somewhat advesarial relationship with the Skins. For some reason I think we get better info that way and trust myself to filter the negativity out.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

JT,

Fair enough on the harping on Lloyd, Brandon. I guess it is old news.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I love what Gibbs did for this franchise the first go around, and maybe time will prove he left it in better shape when he leaves this time, who knows? BUT HE MUST GO! If you can't see this disaster, week in and week out, win or loose, you are not paying attention.

Posted by: T | September 25, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya Skinz,

But I thought Jason had more justifiable reason to be negative last year.

I didn't mind the coverage of Lloyd last year (agreed, negative) because Lloyd was part of the class of 2006 and the FO move was still being evaluated and Lloyd was starting and not producing. But now we all kind of know Lloyd was a huge mistake and we all talked about if off-season on this blog and Lloyd has been demoted to a 3rd or 4th receiver. Given how little Lloyd is playing this year, it is just sort of gratutitous to keep brining it up in my humble opinion.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 25, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

chRIs Larry, Jasno in person (a GREAT guy, esp. for shots) is definitely a disher/taker. To take well, you have to have a thick skin. But to dish well, a thick skin is a liability ... you need to know how to stick and turn the blade. To me, the blog is what it is, i.e., its a forum for opinions, not journalism. I disagree that Jasno's journalism is anything other than solid journalism -- and think people presume it isn't b/c he DOES bring opinion here. Myself, that's what I come here for.

Also, I have personal, ad hominimem (sp?) views (informed by friends whose lives have drawn them into close contact) that cause me to have a strong antipathy toward The Owner. As public figures go (and he is a public figure, I can't believe that surprised him in the GM interview), he reminds me of former Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi. See section 6.3 in the attached http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi The approach is to screw-your-critics-by-buying-the-media ...

Posted by: dcsween | September 25, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Throwing it out there, lol.

The Green Bay Packers with an improved defense and the incomparable Brett Favre wiil be the surprise team the 2007. I'm not sure if what they have what it takes on offense (Brett's supporting cast) to make a NFC title run, but they have looked good thus far. With a schedule that reflects their second place division finish, a good defense (I love their corners) and the greatest QB, ever. I don't see why they can't finish 10-6 or possibly 11-5. Bringing back the cheeseheads. Eeewwww

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I guess given Lloyd's impact on the game, which was zero, I'm not sure why he was brought up, other than just to pile one.

I look at that in the same way that I look at people who still to this day harp on Snyder for signing Bruce Smith/Jeff George.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 25, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Isn't anyone on here going to state the obvious? Gibbs MUST go. Hard to hear, hard to say, but still true.

Does anyone believe Belichik or Dungy would have lost that Giants game if they were coaching this exact version of the Redskins? NO. Of course not. Because they know how to coach. Gibbs doesn't anymore.

Does anyone believe Gibbs would be competent enough to get a single victory out of the Pats or the Colts? It's doubtful. He can't call the right plays, can't prepare his players to execute, and can't win the gimmes.

He has proved his ineptitude. The evidence is overwhelming. It's time for Gibbs to go.
Sorry it had to be said.

Posted by: littleblvd | September 25, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

jcabana, you said:

"I read Jason's blog for analysis that only he can provide - that you can't get other places."

I don't agree with this statement at all - unless you live somewhere besides the DC area. I get much more info from Sportsnet, The Washington Times and even the DC Examiner. Especially since the Skins organization does not appear to like the Post at all - but they provide better info to other news sources.

Posted by: Lisa | September 25, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

SkinsRealist, no question that based on where the Packers are right now (including Favre's EIGHT receiving targets), they have a psychological edge over the teams remaining on their schedule, esp. over the next few weeks. The only lingering question is "did the Packers really beat the Chargers or was it Norv Turner who lost to the Packers?"

Posted by: dcsween | September 25, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

DCsweeny:

Yeah I think we have the same take. And its b/c Janso comes out scrapping, that I occasionally scrap back..and I dig that. Thats why at the end of the day he is a virtual Bro and I am pretty sure if we partied it would be fun.


Snyder as Berlusconi is the greatest Snyder analogy I have ever heard.....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 25, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

The difference is that Berlusconi was in the media first and AC Milan is a perennial winner. You give me as many cups as AC Milan has under Berlusconi and Danny can do/say whatever the heck he wants.

You want to talk about a whiner, Dannyboy. He wants to own the Redskins but doesn't want the critism well, sorry but the Redskins are an integral part of this area and a public trust in essence. You don't like it, sell.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

4th - you said;

"He was right that you (most writers) have never played football and that you don't know exactly what they are talking about all the time"

Me - the funniest thing our pathetic owner said was this. Given that by simply LOOKING at The Danny we can tell he never played football at any level outside of a pickup game with members of the H.S. chess club (and played with a Nerf football). He compounds his error by getting JLC's age wrong and making it seem like a 26 year beat writer old knows nothing about football - but an early 30's math geek with alot of money sure knew enough about football to sign Jeff George, Bruce Smith, etc... didn't he?

JLC needs to stay above the fray when responding to critics. I think he was right about the following day and his personal and professional duties keeping him from doing a recp. But I also agree he probably could've done it the "next day" after. But we don't know if he could've because we don't know his schedule (and remember folks, the "next day" was Wednesday on a short week following a Monday night game).

As for Czaban, I think he goes a little overboard sometimes but I find his criticism refreshing given that much of the coverage I see elsewhere is bland and not worth reading due to its pro-bias. Much of that other coverage is akin to Kevin Bacon's last scene in the movie "Animal House" as everyone is running for cover he screams "Remain Calm, All is Well".

I truly wish The Danny was in his 60's or 70's right now. Because THEN I'd at least get to see another owner of the Redskins in my lifetime. Since he and I are roughly the same age and since he doesn't seem to really care about the Redskins winning (just how rich it makes him and the Redskins place on the top of the most valuable franchise list) he's going to hold onto the team like he did his Redskins belt buckle.

Posted by: Thaiphoon | September 25, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

lisa, i believe bill was making copies literally for the team 2 years ago. i don't think he is qualified to run an offense. now they have ernest byner as the RB coach too. what i was saying is that the people in charge of game management are all over 65 (JG, JB, WAL)...

4th, that is from riggo's show. there was an interview with weird al after the game. seriously this no #1 back isn't working. they are not interchangeable.

the 64 yard TD that CP scored in his first year here was on a busted play. it was probly the same play on the left. when did betts ever score on a busted play?

Posted by: dealer | September 25, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

dcsween, any place Norv Turner goes he will be credited with losses more than wins. It will be noted that either he didn't motivate his players (hogwash, no pun) or he was out coached, and all of these are warranted. I think it was the Chargers being over confident and the Packers maybe on the verge of becoming a sixth or fifth seeded playoff team, then again who is to say they couldn't get the fouth in the equivalence of mediocrity that is the NFC. The Chargers believe their loss to New England last year was a fluke and wanted to come out and prove that they are still an elite team, even with a new HC. I don't think the chargers are a 14-2 team this year, I see a very pedestrian 8-8, maybe 9-7.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Question:

NFL.com ranks us 3rd in the conference. I would think that all the people with the 2-0 conference records would be before us. Any ideas?

http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=conf

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

My frustration with this thing is based on ... we have seem this for the last 4 years. The QB/RB/WR's/OL/coordinators change, but the offense still seems stuck in mud. I'm not saying we need to score 35 poiints a game for me to be happy..( although ....!! ) , but a little firepower would be nice.

Jason Campbell has played major college football, and been in our "system" (whatever that is) for a few years. We seem sooooo afraid of letting him make a mistake, that we cripple him. Look at the way he seems tentative out of the pocket...look how many times he pulls the ball back down.

I watch other young QB's go out and "play football". FREE JASON CAMPBELL !!!!

Seriously, Sunday would not have been so hard to swallow if it had not been a recurring nightmare from the past few years... a late lead slips away. In this league, you need every win you can. We may look at this one late in the year as one that got away.

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, NFL.com must think highly of our defense. Everyone could see Sunday, despite the Skins giving up 3 TD's in the second half, fell directly on the shoulders of the offense inablity to move the ball. This resulted in a tired, worn out, "where-the-O2" defense. The defense must be ranked in at least the top 10, hopefully, with the offense maybe in the top 20. Please confirm.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

"We may look at this one late in the year as one that got away".

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 11:41 AM


Trust me we/they already are.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

How this team responds to Detroit will tell me what I need to know about this team for the season. Unlike some of these liquored up fans, I don't change with the wind when we have a bad loss. Some of you have no sense, and have problably never played sports on any level.

Posted by: sicwidit | September 25, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Agreed reppin. I think our offense has been stagnant so far this year. The one drive we did really well on was where JC led us down the field before the half at Philly because his headseat was out(minus the crazy stuff that happened which I attribute to the coaches i.e lining up to kick with plenty of time for one pass b4 the kick)!! We gotta let em loose and step it up!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 25, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Oh, by the way...

Just once, I would like somebody at the Park come out and be pissed. Coach Joe, Double G Williams, The Almighty Saunders, Danny Boy.....somebody other than the players say, "you know what, this was terrible and it needs to be fixed by next week."

"Well, we fought our guts out ...we'll get em next time. I know we ran for 67 yards and gave up 350 yards, but gosh we fought hard."

How many more times are we going to hear that?? I'm not saying we have to cuss guys out by name, but hold guys accountable.

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

My dream scenario:

1. Gibbs decides to become only team president and turn coaching to younger dudes.

2. This means Vinny is gone.

3. Grimm hired as coach. This provides Gibbs synergy and similar concepts but funneled through a younger vessel who has also experienced how other successful organizations work.

4. Grimm scouts and brings young hungry exec to mentor under Gibbs and Grimm who will step in as GM after gibbs.

5. Weird Al, the older guys leave...

6. Except Buges who stays on has coaching mentor O line guru for Grimm.

7. Grilliams offered to stay (continuity) but if he wants to leave...fine. If he leaves promote Blanche.

8. Ernest Byner promoted to O-cord to work closely with Grimm. Again same philosophies, been in good Orgs (Byner Bmore)...continuity.

9. Younger coaches asked to stay...Danny Smith, Lazar etc.

To me this is a workable combination of graceful exist for Gibbs, move to get Coach/GM younger, mix continuity with change, keep fan base happy and to NOT go big headline (Cohwer, college stud coach etc)

Thoughts

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 25, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Also,

Does anyone else listen to local sports talk radio and hear alot of the points that people bring up here being brought up by those guys. Like to the tee?

Just seems funny to me.

Posted by: Skinz | September 25, 2007 09:54 AM
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Skinz: What's your point?

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 25, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

2007-2008

Clinton Portis 48 227 4.7 3
Ladell Betts 30 82 2.7 0

they're not interchangeble!

Posted by: dealer | September 25, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Hold on ... type slower...I'm writing this down

Posted by: Larry Michaels | September 25, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

TO Sicwidit ... "Some of you have no sense, and have problably never played sports on any level."

That gets tired also. Just because I may not have played sports doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. Have you eveer anchored the evening news? If not, then don't judge....have you ever served in congress...if not then don't judge

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Betts took advantage of a great offensive line. Now that that's depleted some he can't do anything, while CP still is giving us positive yardage!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 25, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

*** Fantasy Post ****

I love Drew Brees!

** End Fantasy Post ***

As you were, blogpeeps...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 25, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Skinz: What's your point?

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 25, 2007 11:48 AM

Questions don't have points. They are questions.

Also, don't answer a question with a question.

Posted by: Just sayzin is all... | September 25, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

It's not just "A loss" or a stepping stone they've managed to trip over. No one is throwing the towel in on the Redskins, yet. It is not a damned campaign, yet. But what it is another halftime lead, or any lead the Redskins seem to squander away. Someone has to get the stats on how many times since 2004 have the Redskins surrendered a lead of 3 points or more, hell lets do 7, how many times has the Redskins conceeded a 7 point lead? Anyone? I think as a Skins fan this is most troubling of all, because if you didn't know submitting leads and win and losses coincide with each other.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the never played see Howard Cossell's autobiography "I Never Played the Game"....where he decries that menatllity as the "Jockocracy"

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 25, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Have you ever had two kids, become addicted to alcohol and drugs, gained a little weight and stuffed yourself into a 2 piece while on live TV...?? If not then don't judge Britney !!!!

( Sorry just had to add a ilttle levity)

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

JLC,
I loved the rant...let it rip!
Jim Rome would be proud and hey, maybe you will get a show because of it. TV pays better anyway, ask Tony K and Wilbon!

Keep firing away, us UNpolitically correct people here in Ashburn love it!
Bob

Posted by: Bob-Ashburn, VA | September 25, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm ok with JLC being negative, but he shouldn't be yapping about how Redskins fans can't handle 'the truth' and then not admit when his version of the truth turned out to be totally wrong. (See: Portis not playing in the preseason, no competition brought in at kicker, no hitting in preseason, on and on..)

His bent on Lloyd is way past stale, and I don't see how you can harp on it without acknowledging our top 2 WR's are offseason acquisitions that are worth every penny.

Posted by: Ron | September 25, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I agree on Recevier, The.... he is soooooo far off of my radar screen. The point is, you can't rebuild your team, if you so few draft picks and little cap room.

I also agree, put Receiver, The on the inactive and bring up Caldwell. It will also, send a signal...it doesn't matter how much you make....jerk-o$$s don't play.

By the way, we need a nickname for Reche.

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Che Che?

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 25, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Che Che is good !! Hopefully we'll find out if he is any good, then he can be ...

"anti-receiver, the"

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I've just been to angry to post yet. I'm not jumping off the bandwagon, I know this is a good team. I am jumping off the bandwagon of the coaching staff!!!!!!

That second half was Gibbs at his worst. Poor play-calling, no shots downfield, no killer instinct. We didn't take a single shot downfield until the last drive with only a one score lead against the 32nd pass defense in the league. Cooley had 3 touches!!!!! We took to shots deep and hit one missed the other by inches but it wasn't like the Gints shut it down but we quit trying. And, just like Jla said the clock management is a joke!!! When your a good but not dominant team with no killer instinct in the coaching staff (after they missed that bomb to Moss in Philly it was "well that didn't work will never do it again") you better have a good 2-minute drill and know what your doing cause that is going to determine a lot of games.

They were two issues when we hit the 2 yard line the coaching staff and JC. The spike call was idiotic and a waste of a play, you've got a 6'5" QB and a tired hurried D and plenty of time, line up for the sneak and make them call a time out or stop him first, if they do, then call that roll-out pass and either get the TD or throw into the 30th row and stop the clock. Now here's where the coach's screwed up again, I actually really like the two plays called, that goes a long way to time management, but the exact same play? And here is where JC's inexperience comes in, they had tons of time and shouldn't have rushed to the line, and when he got to the line he should have taken his time and seen that the left side (where you just ran) was totally stacked up and called his own number on a sneak behind Rabach with Sellers coming in and hitting him on the butt as hard as he can. That falls on both the coaches and JC, every team I ever played on the QB was told repeatedly and given a check call to call the sneak in short yardage situations if its there, its the simplest play, JC rushed to the line and snapped the ball with 20 secs on the play clock without even looking at what the defense was doing and he either hasn't been coached to look at things there or screwed up, either way, the time management/2 minute drill is atrocious and flat out unacceptable for a coaching staff with as much experience and as highly paid as this one.

Posted by: Jack | September 25, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

lol

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 25, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

CL,

I like your plan. Perhaps, it or something similar will happen after 08. I am sure JG will stick to his five year commitment.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 25, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

No thoughts on dream scenario? Oh well...

Where Janso gets the reciever ish wrong is that its a waste to bench him. Wrong the mistake (trade/contract) has been made, is known you cant let that mean you run him out there just cuzz...

Its actually brave to bench him given the price tag....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 25, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Why are we continuing to critique Jason's journalism. He gathers facts/information, he forms his opinions, he then writes the facts/opinions, he gets paid, WE READ! Thats it! Can we stop being so damn sensative when it comes to someone spitting fire at the Redskins. They're professionals they can take it. When they are bad, or worse, they will get bashed just like every other team in this region. See the Washington Bulltes/Wizards from 93' to the turn of the century. Until the Redskins present themselves as legit on the field, on the sidelines/booth, and in the front office, this team will continue to be scrutinize to the fullest.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Re Jack

Cooley had 3 touches!!!!! "

Cooley had only three touches, because he was too busy whiffin' on Strahan. That's another thing !!! What "Great Saunders" scheme leaves your TE (who is not a stand out blocker) one-on-one with Michael Strahan !!??!! I don't blame chris, in the fourth qtr of a tight game he is lined up with him ... alone !! I know Uminminminminminminmiyourryourra had a helluva game, but c'mon

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Cooley/TE on Def Ends gives me horrible Spurrier flashbacks....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 25, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah,

BANISH DAN SNYDER!

I Strongly disike (Hate is a harsh word) his a$$!!!

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Jasno you are the man and keep doing your thing. The haters can leave and let us originals hang around if they don't like it!!!

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 25, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Uminyoura meet Kiwuanuka .... Kiwuanuka meet Uminyoura

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Re RockyTop

"The haters can leave "

Maybe Danny Snyder is taking to heart the 50 cent hit "In da Club"

"If they hate
then let them hate
and watch the money pile up"

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I got a Reche Caldwell nickname...

Reach Coleslaw. He would probably perfer just coleslaw.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Good one Reppin! to class now.

Posted by: RockyTopSkin | September 25, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

SPIRIT WEEK UPDATE

Pajama Day is NOT good for motivation. Everyone is sleepy and lazy, including me. My ability to abide today is sub-par.

sween... I am actually at a middle school, but in the rural parts of Virginia a lot of middle schools are closely linked to the high schools because 8th graders are allowed to play JV sports.

Redskins*

Posted by: Dorf | September 25, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

CL, love that dream situation!!!!!!!

I was just saying the other day that I would love to see Gibbs stop coaching but still run the team and Grimm is going to be a great HC.

Posted by: Jack | September 25, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Re RockyTop

"The haters can leave "

"Maybe Danny Snyder is taking to heart the 50 cent hit 'In da Club'"

"If they hate
then let them hate
and watch the money pile up"

Posted by: Reppin TX

Sounds just like Dan Dan to me

You can find me in a cart/not really smart/you can tell I don't have heart...

Ok so I'm not a rapper, hell neither is Lloyd, or a receiver. (Sorry had to do it on both accounts, lol)

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Thaiphoon,

Snyder did not say he was talking about Jason - or even the Washington Post at all. He just mentioned the media in general. I'm not taking up for him but as I said yesterday, if any of you have ever witnessed the media throng with microphones surrounding the players and coaches after practice, etc. most of them do look extremely young.

Posted by: Lisa | September 25, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh by the way,

Let's not think that Che Che ( thanks Rocky) is the answer. Like all of the sudden he steps into that most-feared 4th WR position and suddenly we are the IndyColts 2.0....There was a reason he was on the street when the season started. there was a reason HOUSTON (for Jasno sake) let him walk.

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

For you Jasno haters: you should have heard Bram go off yesterday about the last drive and how idiotic the goal line plays were (very brave of him considering he's an employee of the X-Rated radio station).

I should say that he went off when he could get a word in edgewise between Larry "Adware" Michael's stupid jaunts about "Let's move on. What's the point of talking about the game?"

Uhhh...b/c that's your JOB???!!!

Move on to what? The Detroit game is not for two weeks. An

If you read Bram's blog, he is also very critical of the team. Are you going to say he's biased b/c he states the obvious and somehow missed out on the Stepford School of Media Relations during orientation?

BTW, the game will is being replayed tomorrow evening at 8 on the NFLN.

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 25, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's just me but I want the BLloyd to do well. I am prayin' that light comes on soon. The Skins are a better team if he produces because of his "upside." Thrash and Caldwell are not the answer. Thrash is old and has never been anything other than a good return guy and an avg pass catcher. Caldwell just isn't that good.

Will you pray with me?

Posted by: LH | September 25, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I've played many sports at differing levels.

I've never played professional football... but I HAVE caught more passes than "The Receiver" this year.

Posted by: Thaiphoon | September 25, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm not watching the Skins on NFL Replay unless they're showing the director's cut with an alternate ending.

Posted by: LH | September 25, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

LH and Thaiphoon have put my day in a better light with the last 2 posts.. You all keep hope alive....the real world is calling me!!!

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

cL,
I like the dream because it's not just who, but kind of explains how to get there too.

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

BTW, the game will is being replayed tomorrow evening at 8 on the NFLN.

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 25, 2007 12:26 PM

Thanks, dont know if I actually want to watch it

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

SPIRIT WEEK UPDATE

Pajama Day is NOT good for motivation. Everyone is sleepy and lazy, including me. My ability to abide today is sub-par.

sween... I am actually at a middle school, but in the rural parts of Virginia a lot of middle schools are closely linked to the high schools because 8th graders are allowed to play JV sports.
-Dorf

In WMD, we have a crazy homecomeing week. The middle school kids actually have a parade for the high school kids that requires half the middle school to be out on that day.

We also have PJ day, which in the high schools usually amounts to the kids trying to see how little they can get away wiht wearing and still calling it PJs.

Also, I need to issue a blanket apology to SCSkins and sfkins. I rather rudely called them out and in the case of sfskins erroneously so.

I am an irritable old veteran teacher and a unionist at that, so I get testy very easily re. teacher issues.

My bad.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 25, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

There are two things that have to happen this season for the Skins to have any chance.

1. We have got to decide who is in charge of the offense come hell or high water and stick with them. Sunday was a perfect example, Saunders first half downfield shots and Cooley involved, Gibbs second half largely ineffective runs and a lot of short routes.

2. We have got to take the handcuffs off of JC and just let the guy ball. He has proven he is poised, a leader, and is talented. He knows the offense, he should be given 8 shots down the field a game (that's only two a quarter) which is the best ball he throws and with ARE and Moss is our biggest strength. If teams truly have to fear that part of our game then all of a sudden Cooley is open underneath and the running game is easier.

Phil Simms was talking about it on the Stephen A. Smith show, (paraphrase) "I see a young talented guy there but I don't think they are play to his strengths, the guy throws one of the prettiest deep balls I've seen, and in today's NFL I think your seeing that its tough to run the ball and like the Cowboys did and the Packers did, you've got to throw the ball to set up the run whereas it used to be you run the ball to set up the pass, but I think that defenses are just to intricate and to talented at the front 7's to just line up and run on anymore. You've got to stretch them out deep and wide and then you can run the ball, but just line up week in and week out and say I'm going to out-muscle you, I think your going to have a tough time in this league cause there are a lot of truly great defenses. I think if they let him take more deep shots down field to those fast WR's then you'd see Portis and Betts more effective and there offense as a whole."

Posted by: Jack | September 25, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Should have added that I brought up the replay for those who want to review the game a bit more objectively (presumably w/o the alcohol and fanster filters) to see that there are valid criticisms on how the game was played.

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 25, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

From NFL.com-

According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, WR Shaun Bodiford's was re-signed to the Green Bay Packers 53-man active roster Monday, three weeks after making him one of their final cuts.


Well then. Looks like there's now an opening on the 'Skins practice squad.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 25, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody else notice that Gibbs' defense of the play calling at the end of the game was very W-ish?

It was like, "No, it wasn't the wrong play calling, even if it resulted in a massive fuster cluck."

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 25, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

dont worry jason, Snyder is one little #$% fu#$.... he is an idiot... he may have money but he is still a little %$# fu!#....

Posted by: bethesdaboy | September 25, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I trashed this guy in preseason (for good reason), but the posts are better now. Some day I may trust his judgment.

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=970

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow, does that guy get paid to BHGO? Charts and everything... I'd make a joke about Jasno feeling threatened but,
A. He probably could care less
B. I think he stopped reading all the comments months ago

Posted by: Dorf | September 25, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

"Giants 1 4th and Goal I-Form 3TE Run Left Betts 0
OH MY GOD...Betts has the hole to the End Zone...he just tripped over Yoder. I had no idea it was that close. Good Call, bad execution. Game."

On the radio it did not sound that close. Will have to watch in greater detail.

I would ammend his statement "Good Call, BAD PERSONNEL DECISION" - Portis does not trip there.

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Dorf,
Clearly, they sit down and review the film play by play. But keep in mind, you can't know the whole story unless you know what the scheme is or how the play is designed. We saw that in the Heyer/Pucillo shabingus.

Don't let the eye-candy shut down your CPU.

Great job if your team wins, but if its a gut wrenching loss...

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Z,
I wasn't close. The play developed slowly and there was immediate penetration by the Giants. If Betts had scored, he would have had to break it, the inside was a blue curtain.

Maybe it looked different in super-slow mo.

Posted by: Stumped | September 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

How bout them cowboys
Take note to what a high octane offense looks like.Is that the boys in the top 5 NFL and some say top 3.Get your popcorn ready skin fans its going to be a show!

Posted by: TO | September 25, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Cheer up hamsters. It could be worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLOtDB1SzSA&eurl

(apologies to MV Dame)

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 25, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Stumped. Sellers got overwhelmed on the first play, and then I believe got submarined on the second one, which left the LB's with a clear path to Betts. I'm not sure Clinton scores on that, but water under the bridge at this point.

I also agree with LH, in that I wante Lloyd to do well. If only someone could reach this guy, and get him to give a rip....

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 25, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The crying on this blog is pathetic and really hurts me to know you guys will be out of it early as usual.

Posted by: wawawa | September 25, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to play sports to have an opinion....but it is very very hard for you to have any concept of what football is all about without having at least some basic foundation in the X's and O's.

And can we stop comparing anybody that disagrees with Jason to the Extreme Skins people, or calling them homers? Just because I think JLC is a poor choice to be beat writer for the most important DC sports team doesn't mean I am a homer. I fully realize all the dumbass goings-on at Redskins Park, but still want a guy that doesn't blast my f'n team every second. Jeez.

Posted by: C'mon JLC | September 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Jason
tells the truth and you guys insult him? Whats up with that,Joe Gibbs will leave with a losing record and 1 wild card win to add to his Unearned resume into HOF! Dan Snyder gave up on winning when he brought Joe back,He only cares about filling seats and as long as Joe does that then things will stay the Same!

Posted by: SUCKERS | September 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Don't hate the reporter, hate the game. For all the KoolAid Brigdade, read and understand:

Comcast Drops the Ball in Snyder Interview

By Leonard Shapiro
Special to washingtonpost.com
Tuesday, September 25, 2007; 10:58 AM

To understand why broadcasting companies should avoid allowing themselves to become the official station/network of the Washington Redskins or any other professional sports organization; we bring you this past Sunday night's "exclusive" interview with Redskins team owner Daniel Snyder on Comcast SportsNet.

CSN, of course, is the official cable partner of the Redskins in the Washington market, but instead of having one of its own more-than-capable sportscasters -- versatile anchor Chick Hernandez, or bulldog Redskins beat reporter Kelli Johnson, among others -- conduct the rare interview of the media-reclusive Snyder, former Channel 4 sports director George Michael was brought in to handle the assignment on a freelance basis.

That was a mistake on many levels, in my humble opinion. As much as I've always praised Michael for producing the best and most comprehensive sportscast on the air for so many years until his recent retirement. But he also happens to be one of Snyder's "guys" and hardly the proper choice to interview another guy who rarely in recent years has subjected himself to some tough one-on-one questioning by members of the local or national media.

Michael has always had more access to the owner than virtually any media person in the local market, going back to the days when Channel 4 also had an "official" relationship with the Redskins. He's been a guest in the owner's box on game days, and Snyder clearly considers him a friend, at least according to Redskins public relations man Karl Swanson.

I specifically recall a telling scene related in a Washington Post Magazine story in 2002 when Snyder was sitting with Michael over breakfast one morning during training camp in Carlisle, Pa. Peter Perl, now an assistant managing editor at The Post, was the writer of that revealing profile, and at one point, Michael turned to Perl and said of Snyder, "this is a good man. He's a good man. I'll tear you apart if you trash him (in the ensuing magazine article.)"

Conversations this week with several people in the local sports broadcasting business evoked the same initial reaction I had to CSN's choice of Michael. We all were certain that the owner surely must have hand-picked him to do the interview, knowing full well that his buddy probably wouldn't ask him the really tough questions the owner has been ducking for years.

"I guarantee you it was no George, no interview," one veteran broadcaster said.

But Swanson, Snyder's personal gatekeeper at Redskins Park, insisted that was not the case.

"We had no input into who did the interview," Swanson said. "Comcast asked if they could do the interview. In the past, (Snyder) has done interviews with our partners. It's part of the partnership."

In an interview Tuesday, CSN General Manager Rebecca Schulte said it was her choice, and hers alone, to ask Michael to handle the assignment. She said she had actually approached Michael this past summer about possibly doing some future feature or interview work for the cable network, and that he seemed amenable.

"He said 'I might be interested,' and that when we got a big interview to let him know," Schulte said. "Dan was interested in doing the interview with us. I thought he'd be comfortable with George, and when I told the Redskins about it, they thought it was a great idea. I was the one to say I wanted George to do this interview, not them.

"And this was not just aired in the Mid-Atlantic. It was available to all our networks, New York, Philadelphia. We picked a national talent. From a national perspective, it made sense to have (Michael) do it. I thought George would get the most out of Dan. And I thought he did a good job on it."

With all due respect, I disagree.

During the interview, broadcast about 45 minutes into the post-game show, Michael began by asking Snyder that if he'd known from Day One what owning the Redskins would do to his private life, would he still have bought the team? And then Michael kept up the touchy, feely stuff throughout the session, as if the young mogul had somehow suffered terrible indignities during his spotty stewardship of Washington's favorite sports franchise.

Did Snyder know how hard it would be to win in the NFL? Did he know it would be so trying? Had he been humbled by last year's 5-11 season? Snyder responded exactly the way you might expect -- that last season was "real disappointing," that he's excited about the future and that his ownership of the team is "all about winning" and blah, blah, blah.

To his credit, Michael did ask Snyder why his relations with the media were so strained, and all of a sudden, the owner became an expert on the declining circulation of newspapers. Better he should focus on why more people aren't flocking to Six Flags and its tumbling stock price since he bought the chain of amusement parks.

"They need controversy to sell ... negative," the owner said of the print media. "It becomes a feeding frenzy."

When Michael asked him about the Redskins trying to control their message with their own web site, their own in-house broadcasting unit, their own radio network, Snyder said, "it's not so much controlling the message... We give (fans) unfiltered (information) ... It's not filtered by a 26-year-old reporter who doesn't have a clue."

At that point, a more objective inquisitor surely would have followed up with some hardball questions. Personally, I might have pointed out that there are hardly any 26-year-old reporters covering his team at Redskins Park, with most of the press corps veterans on the beat, including some who were around when Joe Gibbs came through the first time around.

I also might have reminded Snyder that he essentially has put the future of his own billion dollar franchise in the hands of an inexperienced young quarterback, Jason Campbell, who won't even turn 26 until Dec. 31? So it's okay to be the starting quarterback of the Washington Redskins at age 25, but not to cover the team at age 26?

Michael did ask Snyder about his unwillingness to hire a real live general manager, and there was another answer that begged for a skeptical follow-up.

"If you look at Joe Gibbs (NASCAR) racing team, there's no GM," Snyder said. "There's no reason to have a general manager with less experience (than Gibbs) to tell him how not to do it."

At that point, Michael again should have jumped all over Snyder with a tough question, as in "do you honestly believe that running a NASCAR operation was in any way, shape or form related to putting together a winning football team?"

Michael also might have asked the owner to name the last team that won a Super Bowl without a general manager (probably the Bill Walsh/Joe Montana/Steve Young 49ers, a franchise run by a man acknowledged to be a coaching genius as well as an astute personnel evaluator).

He also might have pointed out to Snyder how much success the Redskins had with a general manager during the Gibbs I era, when Bobby Beathard and Charley Casserly supplied the talent that helped fuel four Super Bowl appearances and three championships that ultimately and properly got Gibbs into the Hall of Fame. And wasn't it Beathard who hired Gibbs in the first place, arguably the greatest decision in club history?

Michael also might have mentioned to the owner that Gibbs' reputation as a mediocre evaluator of college players back in the 1980s and early '90s has always been well-known all around the NFL, and that Vinny Cerrato's shortcomings as a judge of talent also has been pointed out by many of his NFL peers.

There were so many more questions that could have been asked, but never were.

Why, for example, are so many long-time Redskins season-ticket holders handing off their seats to their kids or friends because they simply hate the in-house FedEx experience of ear-splitting music, a cheerleading PA announcer, too many unruly and often soused fans, outrageous costs to park their cars and agonizing traffic jams before and after games?

Why did he try to convince Beathard to come in and be the general manager a few years ago, then offered him a laughable contract that guaranteed he'd say no?

Why has the team traded away so many high draft picks and brought in high-priced big names (Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, Adam Archuletta, even Steve Spurrier among many others) who happily took his money and were saying goodbye before anyone could hardly say hello?

Looking back, was it worth the price of perennial Pro Bowl, lockdown cornerback Champ Bailey and a No. 1 draft choice to acquire running back Clinton Portis from the Denver Broncos?

Why did he allow long-time play-by-play Frank Herzog to be fired, and how long will it be before Sonny and Sam are let go in favor of, say Joe Theismann, who did color on the preseason games?

Why has he never had the good sense or the common decency to invite John Kent Cooke, the son of the team's long time owner and a long-time club executive himself, to sit in his box at a home game in the seven years since he outbid John Cooke to buy the team?

And by the way, I'm not the only one who thought Comcast's "exclusive" interview with the Redskins owner left quite a bit to be desired.

Former Redskin Brian Mitchell, who co-hosted the Comcast post-game show (for now, anyway), said on the air right after the interview that it should have been an in-house Comcast broadcaster grilling Snyder. He also mocked what he described as "the cotton candy type questions" the owner was asked and said Michael "laughed them (the questions) in and laughed them out."

Mitchell also described the owner as "still stubborn" and pointed out that Gibbs hardly won all those Super Bowls by having the final say on personnel. "No, he had Beathard there, and Casserly there," he said, adding that Snyder should be fair game for criticism considering the team's dismal record since he bought the team.

"The quarterback gets blamed for everything, the coaches get blamed, why not the owner?" Mitchell said.

Come to think of it, the next time Snyder agrees to an interview with Comcast SportsNet, and as long as he allegedly has no say in who conducts it, wouldn't Brian Mitchell be one of the guys you'd want asking the questions?

Absolutely.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Don't hate the reporter, hate the game. For all the KoolAid Brigdade, read and understand:

Comcast Drops the Ball in Snyder Interview

By Leonard Shapiro
Special to washingtonpost.com
Tuesday, September 25, 2007; 10:58 AM

To understand why broadcasting companies should avoid allowing themselves to become the official station/network of the Washington Redskins or any other professional sports organization; we bring you this past Sunday night's "exclusive" interview with Redskins team owner Daniel Snyder on Comcast SportsNet.

CSN, of course, is the official cable partner of the Redskins in the Washington market, but instead of having one of its own more-than-capable sportscasters -- versatile anchor Chick Hernandez, or bulldog Redskins beat reporter Kelli Johnson, among others -- conduct the rare interview of the media-reclusive Snyder, former Channel 4 sports director George Michael was brought in to handle the assignment on a freelance basis.

That was a mistake on many levels, in my humble opinion. As much as I've always praised Michael for producing the best and most comprehensive sportscast on the air for so many years until his recent retirement. But he also happens to be one of Snyder's "guys" and hardly the proper choice to interview another guy who rarely in recent years has subjected himself to some tough one-on-one questioning by members of the local or national media.

Michael has always had more access to the owner than virtually any media person in the local market, going back to the days when Channel 4 also had an "official" relationship with the Redskins. He's been a guest in the owner's box on game days, and Snyder clearly considers him a friend, at least according to Redskins public relations man Karl Swanson.

I specifically recall a telling scene related in a Washington Post Magazine story in 2002 when Snyder was sitting with Michael over breakfast one morning during training camp in Carlisle, Pa. Peter Perl, now an assistant managing editor at The Post, was the writer of that revealing profile, and at one point, Michael turned to Perl and said of Snyder, "this is a good man. He's a good man. I'll tear you apart if you trash him (in the ensuing magazine article.)"

Conversations this week with several people in the local sports broadcasting business evoked the same initial reaction I had to CSN's choice of Michael. We all were certain that the owner surely must have hand-picked him to do the interview, knowing full well that his buddy probably wouldn't ask him the really tough questions the owner has been ducking for years.

"I guarantee you it was no George, no interview," one veteran broadcaster said.

But Swanson, Snyder's personal gatekeeper at Redskins Park, insisted that was not the case.

"We had no input into who did the interview," Swanson said. "Comcast asked if they could do the interview. In the past, (Snyder) has done interviews with our partners. It's part of the partnership."

In an interview Tuesday, CSN General Manager Rebecca Schulte said it was her choice, and hers alone, to ask Michael to handle the assignment. She said she had actually approached Michael this past summer about possibly doing some future feature or interview work for the cable network, and that he seemed amenable.

"He said 'I might be interested,' and that when we got a big interview to let him know," Schulte said. "Dan was interested in doing the interview with us. I thought he'd be comfortable with George, and when I told the Redskins about it, they thought it was a great idea. I was the one to say I wanted George to do this interview, not them.

"And this was not just aired in the Mid-Atlantic. It was available to all our networks, New York, Philadelphia. We picked a national talent. From a national perspective, it made sense to have (Michael) do it. I thought George would get the most out of Dan. And I thought he did a good job on it."

With all due respect, I disagree.

During the interview, broadcast about 45 minutes into the post-game show, Michael began by asking Snyder that if he'd known from Day One what owning the Redskins would do to his private life, would he still have bought the team? And then Michael kept up the touchy, feely stuff throughout the session, as if the young mogul had somehow suffered terrible indignities during his spotty stewardship of Washington's favorite sports franchise.

Did Snyder know how hard it would be to win in the NFL? Did he know it would be so trying? Had he been humbled by last year's 5-11 season? Snyder responded exactly the way you might expect -- that last season was "real disappointing," that he's excited about the future and that his ownership of the team is "all about winning" and blah, blah, blah.

To his credit, Michael did ask Snyder why his relations with the media were so strained, and all of a sudden, the owner became an expert on the declining circulation of newspapers. Better he should focus on why more people aren't flocking to Six Flags and its tumbling stock price since he bought the chain of amusement parks.

"They need controversy to sell ... negative," the owner said of the print media. "It becomes a feeding frenzy."

When Michael asked him about the Redskins trying to control their message with their own web site, their own in-house broadcasting unit, their own radio network, Snyder said, "it's not so much controlling the message... We give (fans) unfiltered (information) ... It's not filtered by a 26-year-old reporter who doesn't have a clue."

At that point, a more objective inquisitor surely would have followed up with some hardball questions. Personally, I might have pointed out that there are hardly any 26-year-old reporters covering his team at Redskins Park, with most of the press corps veterans on the beat, including some who were around when Joe Gibbs came through the first time around.

I also might have reminded Snyder that he essentially has put the future of his own billion dollar franchise in the hands of an inexperienced young quarterback, Jason Campbell, who won't even turn 26 until Dec. 31? So it's okay to be the starting quarterback of the Washington Redskins at age 25, but not to cover the team at age 26?

Michael did ask Snyder about his unwillingness to hire a real live general manager, and there was another answer that begged for a skeptical follow-up.

"If you look at Joe Gibbs (NASCAR) racing team, there's no GM," Snyder said. "There's no reason to have a general manager with less experience (than Gibbs) to tell him how not to do it."

At that point, Michael again should have jumped all over Snyder with a tough question, as in "do you honestly believe that running a NASCAR operation was in any way, shape or form related to putting together a winning football team?"

Michael also might have asked the owner to name the last team that won a Super Bowl without a general manager (probably the Bill Walsh/Joe Montana/Steve Young 49ers, a franchise run by a man acknowledged to be a coaching genius as well as an astute personnel evaluator).

He also might have pointed out to Snyder how much success the Redskins had with a general manager during the Gibbs I era, when Bobby Beathard and Charley Casserly supplied the talent that helped fuel four Super Bowl appearances and three championships that ultimately and properly got Gibbs into the Hall of Fame. And wasn't it Beathard who hired Gibbs in the first place, arguably the greatest decision in club history?

Michael also might have mentioned to the owner that Gibbs' reputation as a mediocre evaluator of college players back in the 1980s and early '90s has always been well-known all around the NFL, and that Vinny Cerrato's shortcomings as a judge of talent also has been pointed out by many of his NFL peers.

There were so many more questions that could have been asked, but never were.

Why, for example, are so many long-time Redskins season-ticket holders handing off their seats to their kids or friends because they simply hate the in-house FedEx experience of ear-splitting music, a cheerleading PA announcer, too many unruly and often soused fans, outrageous costs to park their cars and agonizing traffic jams before and after games?

Why did he try to convince Beathard to come in and be the general manager a few years ago, then offered him a laughable contract that guaranteed he'd say no?

Why has the team traded away so many high draft picks and brought in high-priced big names (Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, Adam Archuletta, even Steve Spurrier among many others) who happily took his money and were saying goodbye before anyone could hardly say hello?

Looking back, was it worth the price of perennial Pro Bowl, lockdown cornerback Champ Bailey and a No. 1 draft choice to acquire running back Clinton Portis from the Denver Broncos?

Why did he allow long-time play-by-play Frank Herzog to be fired, and how long will it be before Sonny and Sam are let go in favor of, say Joe Theismann, who did color on the preseason games?

Why has he never had the good sense or the common decency to invite John Kent Cooke, the son of the team's long time owner and a long-time club executive himself, to sit in his box at a home game in the seven years since he outbid John Cooke to buy the team?

And by the way, I'm not the only one who thought Comcast's "exclusive" interview with the Redskins owner left quite a bit to be desired.

Former Redskin Brian Mitchell, who co-hosted the Comcast post-game show (for now, anyway), said on the air right after the interview that it should have been an in-house Comcast broadcaster grilling Snyder. He also mocked what he described as "the cotton candy type questions" the owner was asked and said Michael "laughed them (the questions) in and laughed them out."

Mitchell also described the owner as "still stubborn" and pointed out that Gibbs hardly won all those Super Bowls by having the final say on personnel. "No, he had Beathard there, and Casserly there," he said, adding that Snyder should be fair game for criticism considering the team's dismal record since he bought the team.

"The quarterback gets blamed for everything, the coaches get blamed, why not the owner?" Mitchell said.

Come to think of it, the next time Snyder agrees to an interview with Comcast SportsNet, and as long as he allegedly has no say in who conducts it, wouldn't Brian Mitchell be one of the guys you'd want asking the questions?

Absolutely.

Posted by: DisgustedFan | September 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Disgusted fan your an idiot to post such a long winded post?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

^
sfskin, that's what I'm talking about

Posted by: Dorf | September 25, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"Giants 1 4th and Goal I-Form 3TE Run Left Betts 0
OH MY GOD...Betts has the hole to the End Zone...he just tripped over Yoder. I had no idea it was that close. Good Call, bad execution. Game."

On the radio it did not sound that close. Will have to watch in greater detail.

I would ammend his statement "Good Call, BAD PERSONNEL DECISION" - Portis does not trip there.

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 01:14 PM
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Gibbs' comment in the Times article on Betts today:


"On the final drive, it started with Clinton in the game. There came a play where Earnest felt like it was to our advantage to have Ladell in there because it was a play Clinton had run earlier in the game. Ladell stayed in for the rest of the drive."

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 25, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"The second-half adjustments - or lack there of - and weird coaching stuff never stops, and they continue to abandon the running game (anyone else have visions of the loses to Oakland and San Diego at home in 2005? Think I've seen this rodeo before back when Gibbs was calling the plays)."

This did not sound right to me vis-a-vis SD so I went back and consulted the play by play. We ran 18 times and threw 16 in the loss to SD. I don't know how that amounts to "abandoning the run."

On some plays and some days you have to admit we got whipped and in the second half that day against SD we got whipped. Not that I am not bitter about it (I still have visions of LT running over Ryan Clark on his way to the endzone) but we did not abandon the run that day.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 25, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

From the Richmond Times Dispatch:

"The Redskins' offense is totally controlled from the sidelines. Entire games will go by without Campbell changing a play at the line of scrimmage. Gibbs and/or his top offensive assistant, Al Saunders, ordered the spike because they wanted time to figure out what to do next. Most NFL teams would have handled the situation the same way.

Former Washington General Manager Charley Casserly, doing postgame analysis for CBS, had it right: "There are only a few teams, all with veteran quarterbacks, who could have run the extra play."

This was Campbell's ninth career start. He's dealing with a pair of confirmed control-freak coaches who keep him on a very short rope. He wasn't going to emerge in this moment as the new Brett Favre"

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 25, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

That sound about right to me. The spike was not the problem. The offense has 3 chances to punch it in from the 1.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 25, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I think Gibbs said that if they ran a play on first down, they would have had to spike the ball on second down, so I'm not sure what the difference if any is if they spiked it on first down, or second down?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 25, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

They should throw on 1st down, but it would have to have been an audible. Which Gibbs said it was hard to hear, WHILE WE WERE ON OFFENSE...

anyway

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"... and the Packers maybe on the verge of becoming a sixth or fifth seeded playoff team, then again who is to say they couldn't get the fouth in the equivalence of mediocrity that is the NFC. ..."

Posted by: SkinsRealist | September 25, 2007 11:33 AM

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Wilbon. Chargers snuff the Bears. Packers snuff the Chargers. Green Bay has a legitimate shot at the division. Right now, fourth seed looks like a minimum, maybe even a bye week for the wild card. [Anybody got Dennis Green's crown laying around?]

DisgustedFan, a link to the Shapiro article would have said as much ... and spared me the carpal tunnel syndrome.

Posted by: dcsween | September 25, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I think the spike was a bad call, 6'5" 230 or Sellars at 280 should go right up the gut on a tired defense rushing to line up. Spiking the ball to get our "package" in there gives them time to do the same thing. If Thomas and Jansen weren't hurt, I don't argue with it, but everyone knows if we go jumbo we're going left with them out, we should have tried to catch em off guard or make them call a time out. And if that young inexperienced QB could getem lined up for a spike he could just as easily get them lined up for a sneak.

Posted by: Jack | September 25, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

yes, I am a moron, and yes, I do know that winning the division means a bye during the wild card week. FIRST!

Posted by: dcsween | September 25, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Stats after 3 weeks taken from nfl.com...

Offense

17th (332 Yds/G)
21st (17.7 PTs/G)

Defense

10th (309 Yds/G)
7th (49 Total Points)

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 25, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

sween,

bye week? not necessarily. Two of the division winners will play during the bye week.

Just sayin

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

to say wild card

Posted by: Zebra | September 25, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 25, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Zebra, if you say so, but you can't deny I'm a moron. [I think that's what people having been trying to explain to me about my circle of acquaintances, i.e., how I don't know "Jack".]

Posted by: dcsween | September 25, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Water under the bridge at this point...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 25, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

this is the most talented team in 15 years. i really think the coaching will get itself corrected during the season.

coach joe said regarding the last series "it was the execution". yes, and that maybe because you didn't have your best personnel in there (CP).

4.7 vs. 2.7 per carry is not a small difference.

Posted by: dealer | September 25, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Let's not think that Che Che ( thanks Rocky) is the answer. Like all of the sudden he steps into that most-feared 4th WR position and suddenly we are the IndyColts 2.0....There was a reason he was on the street when the season started. there was a reason HOUSTON (for Jasno sake) let him walk.

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:25 PM

Reche Caldwell was the #1 wide receiver for the Patriots in 2006. He lost his spot there because the Pats went out and signed about 8 receivers in free agency.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Let's not think that Che Che ( thanks Rocky) is the answer. Like all of the sudden he steps into that most-feared 4th WR position and suddenly we are the IndyColts 2.0....There was a reason he was on the street when the season started. there was a reason HOUSTON (for Jasno sake) let him walk.

Posted by: Reppin TX | September 25, 2007 12:25 PM

Reche Caldwell was the #1 wide receiver for the Patriots in 2006. He lost his spot there because the Pats went out and signed about 8 receivers in free agency.

Posted by: | September 25, 2007 03:48 PM
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And WHY did "the Pats went out and signed about 8 receivers in free agency"??

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

George MIchael is a big pus#*.... Dan Snyder is a little $%@ Fu@#.... Jason we love you!!!

Posted by: bethesdaboy | September 25, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Which also says that the Pats thought there were 8 newcomers better than 'Che.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

BTW, if an announcer ever says, "Reche seemed surprised to have the pass come his way." how could they know it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

jcabana, you said:

"I read Jason's blog for analysis that only he can provide - that you can't get other places."

I don't agree with this statement at all - unless you live somewhere besides the DC area. I get much more info from Sportsnet, The Washington Times and even the DC Examiner. Especially since the Skins organization does not appear to like the Post at all - but they provide better info to other news sources.

Posted by: Lisa | September 25, 2007 11:21 AM

Lisa, maybe I expect more because the blog is called "Redskins Insider?"

Perhaps the blog needs a new name, then?

Posted by: jcabana | September 25, 2007 5:45 PM | Report abuse

refresh

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I bet my boy Chuck could play D-line all by him self. He would sack Kitna just by looking at him every down

Posted by: Chuck Norris's Mom | September 26, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Redskin's are losing all there important players. With almost all of them gone, they are in truble. I mean if I lost MOSS, BRANCH, and a couple of other players, I would be in trouble also.

Posted by: TOM BRADY | October 5, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

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