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Injuries

Santana practiced fully and everyone seems of the same mind that he will play Sunday (imagine that!).

Sellers, Daniels, Marcus Washington and Randle El did not practice. Gibbs said they all could progress through the week and Sellers in particular seemed precautionary. As for Randle El, Gibbs said "hopefully we'll have a miracle there and he can get healed up," and Randle El says he plans on playing, but that seems questionable at best for now.

The team is preparing for Daniels not to be able to go, and when I asked about Marcus's progress Coach Joe said he doesn't talk about injuries anymore (this 2 minutes after speaking specifically about Randle El's situation).

So there you have it. Since Bubba said Marcus's hamstring is worse than Randle El, and Joe says it will take a "miracle" for Antwaan to play, guess it would take an even grander act for Marcus to play. If that logic makes sense.

Marcus has been known to play through anything and a hammy can be worse for a WR than any other position, so we have to figure that in, too. All of this is going to go down to the end of the week and maybe game day.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 10, 2007; 4:20 PM ET
 
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Comments

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Posted by: SAK | October 10, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

it would suck to lose MW, but would rather him sit out a week than keep hurting all season.

Posted by: SAK | October 10, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas.

Posted by: the cheat | October 10, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I didn't get a chance to watch Godfrey fill in for MW last week...anyone have any opinions on how he fared in relief?

Posted by: 'waiting since 92 | October 10, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

it would suck to lose MW, but would rather him sit out a week than keep hurting all season.

Posted by: SAK | October 10, 2007 04:28 PM

So agree, though I think it would severe;y change the overall game plan for Williams. It's amazing to see the pressure they manage to generate with Carter on one side and Washington on the other.

Though there's a part of me a bit bummed at the chance of not being able to see a three wide receiver set with Moss, ARE and McCardell, along with Cooley coming out of the backfield. Nice little nightmare to see just how good the Greenbay back field really is.

Posted by: FBChick | October 10, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Godfrey did alright from what I remember, I know he got a tackle.

Posted by: SAK | October 10, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, thought we might have a near full squad against green bay. I would really like to Randle El and Moss playin together in this post bye week offense.

Posted by: Quaker Jim | October 10, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I didnt think about the gameplan, with MW out I dont know who we would use to blitz LB wise. We could always use L2 I would love to see him play close to the line for a couple of plays.

Posted by: SAK | October 10, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

jasno,
The logic is sound, but the sound bytes are... well, who knows?
Thanks for the update.

Hail!

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

is daniels ever not hurt? can't imagine him being here next year. Come to think of it, does he ever do anything other than the occasional pass deflect? why is he on this team at all?

Posted by: pkhammy | October 10, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Godfrey did ok at OLB. The more pressing issue is that our 3rd dline includes Washington and Daniels so that's half the "pass rush" package of our dline.

Posted by: Skinz | October 10, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

say any of you geeks on here know where i can find a great little indian restaurant at a reasonable price in the herndon area?

Posted by: daveb55 | October 10, 2007 04:22 PM


I thought herndon and india were the same thing?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

http://packers.scout.com/2/689134.html

bullets from the other bench.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Minerva is the best retaurant in Herndon for Indian food but it aint that cheap.

Anon I'd be laughing if it weren't true. I have 2 non indians living on my street.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jasno, what's that gurgling sound??

(4:20 post... heheheheheh)

Keep those injured guys off the field! We gotta count on depth through the middle stretch here.

We brought in those new receivers just for this possibility. I'd like to see Moss sit out this week too. Stretch the field w/ the new guys then throw dumps to Cooley, Sellers & Portis all day - drive those linebackers CRAZY & make 'em sweat in Green Bay!! Eat up the field 4 yards at a time.

Godfrey DANIELS we want a win here!

Posted by: Dik | October 10, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I was really looking forward to seeing Moss and Randle El playing together with McCardell in this post bye offense. I still think Randle El will be able to play, though he should certainly not return punts.

Posted by: Quaker Jim | October 10, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

never fear, i'll catch 2, count 'em TWO, passes this week for 17 yards, and lead the team to victory!

Posted by: b lloyd | October 10, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Oh gawd...the nerves are acting up again...here we go, no sleep till Sunday night (if we win), pacing, random haymakers, alcohol, beans, and who can leave out THE MOOPS!

Posted by: POOP | October 10, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you Poop, lets put it on booze control through Sunday.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Where everyone is be at

Posted by: cowpukey | October 10, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, before the blog could you ever have imagined typing a line like "I'm with you, Poop" ?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 10, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

We like Poop.

Posted by: The Flies | October 10, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Hate Dallas.

Love Skins.

Just sayin.

Posted by: Nickels | October 10, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Never!
It's surreal...its a literary calliope up here.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

btw
I want credit for the Gibbsean syntax "up here" on that last comment.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

As long as our DBs are intact. It's gonna be a track meet.

Posted by: Bryan | October 10, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I hope they're feeding the Defense raw meat this week and taunting them with B Favre sock puppets.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, its a tough crowd up here if you're looking for credit. I had some of my best Joespeak ignored two threads ago (" ... maintaining the positive vibe/mojo is what keeps the Swinging Souls winning their guts out up here...").

I'm still puzzling over the Novachek comment about the game being in Green Bay (like that was significant) and then picking the Skins. I'm not real worried about that particular home field advantage for them b/c (1) it IS on grass and (2) GB fans get fired up for their own team, but are no where near the complete prckis to opposing teams that Eagles or Giants fans are in the Linc and the Meadowlands, respectively.

Re: Marcus v. Godfrey, I don't remember Marcus having a standout afternoon up to that point, which is why the depth there feels a little better. Also, I do remember Chris Wilson showing up with some game (but Daniels' intensity IS something that stood out before he hurt his shoulder). I just hope the Skins show up with the same secondary that showed up against the Lions.

Posted by: dcsween | October 10, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I hope that raw meat is from the Topps factory. But that's just me.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Did he really say "Swing Souls"?
Is that line verbatim? Incredible.
No wonder people keep going to the pressers without content.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I didnt think about the gameplan, with MW out I dont know who we would use to blitz LB wise. We could always use L2 I would love to see him play close to the line for a couple of plays.

Posted by: SAK | October 10, 2007 04:47 PM

They used Chris Wilson in that role last week and he did pretty well. I also feel like Demetric Evans filled in nicely for Daniels

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 10, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

SWEEN!

In the time it took me to get my post up you trumped me! Again!

Still and always, I yield to your wisdom, sinsei.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 10, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

"We need to get A win someWAY, and it's going to take every swinging soul we've got."

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

...and the judges have ruled that full credit shall be given, Stumped.

Someone was earlier likening this joint to Babel, which got me thinking that we're all at least ostensibly using the same language, which you'd think would make it easier to understand each other, but alas...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 10, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

They had MW dwon the the 3 point several times last week, which probably didn't help the hammy situation. Wilson did fill that side of the line in the situations where MW would have been a down lineman.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 10, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

*** postgameheroes alert ***
That was for Nate and the other PGH haters (still fuming about the Sean Taylor MRI business).

For ME, its still a fun read. Plus this week they added a Mike Sellers award (which I think they intend to award to Mike Sellers every week). Anyway, last Thursday, he did a Lions-Skins preview (which turned out to be quite money). At the very end, he has his "worst case scenario" and his "best case scenario." Almost to the WORD ... the Skins delivered the best case scenario. http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=1105

"Best Case Scenario: We go back to the zone blocking with Kendall-Rabach and Samuels-Cooley that allowed us to dominate the Eagles and Dolphins. Kitna stays off the field, and when he does get on, he makes bad reads and is out of rhythm. Defense completely shuts down the running game and Carlos Rogers doesn't drop any INT opportunities."

Posted by: dcsween | October 10, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm much more concerned about Daniels and M-Wash than about Santa and ARE. Is the D front seven rotation strong enough to go most or all of the way without those two dudes? A hell of a test.

Again, it's Grilliams against the guy (is it McCarthy or an O coord who calls the plays? whatevs...) playing the role of Mike Martz this week.

Call me foolhardy, but I am a hardy fool, and I believe Soup can continue leading us on long, clock-eating drives which end in points.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 10, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't hate PGH, sween. I have enjoyed all my visits to the Steel City.

I also don't hate postgameheroes, but I remain a bit peeved that we never received an apology from the guy who came up here screeching about a Sean Taylor MRI which was reported on that site. My beef is with that dude, who was somehow connected with the site, as much as with the site itself.

Anyway, my boycott continues, and I trust you all will continue to fetch their best work and bring it up here. But as Dbag5 reminds us, "hate" is such a strong word, let's not abuse it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 10, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Nate - you giving SMoss a new nickname "Santa" I like it. He leaves us TDs under the tree when Soups drops the long ball down the chimney.

BTW I just spent the afternoon in super prof development meetings so my brain is on stupid right now.

Posted by: sfskin | October 10, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Redskins should have kept LB Dallas Sartz,
to groom after Washington. Just didn't
give him to adjust.

Posted by: George Costanza | October 10, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Honestly I'd rather ARE sit out and heal so we have him for NE and beyond. Not that I'm taking GB as an easy game at all no no no. But I don't want him down for 3-4 weeks vs. out for just 1.

Posted by: sfskin | October 10, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

To reiterate sentiment for this week:

F Green Bay
I heart Tom Brady

Posted by: sfskin | October 10, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

sfkin a female?

Did I mention that I look like a slightly overweight, eastern european version of said dashing QB?

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 10, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

No, not really. Sorry for the overtly creepy cyber come on

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 10, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

i'm interested as to why, exactly, are you guys so fascinated w/ our RBs, or lack there-of? everyone and their mom knows we suck sweaty balls in that area

ricky williams baby!

Posted by: pack4life | October 10, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if writers like Wise didn't take every little mistake as a chance to rip the coach, he wouldn't be stonewalling you on the injuries now. There are so many teams that are much worse at disclosing their injuries, that it seems silly that the Portis thing was any issue.

Posted by: Jason | October 10, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/10/08/VI2007100800706.html?hpid=topnews

Ken Harvey interviewing fans, I just noticed it.

..it has some funny moments.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Redskins should have kept LB Dallas Sartz,
to groom after Washington. Just didn't
give him to adjust.

Posted by: George Costanza | October 10, 2007 06:37 PM

Have you seen HB Blades play?? He will be a starter in no time....

Sween - Just accepted.

Gibbs is throwing the reporters for a loop. Gibbs 2.4 may be a Saint, but he is still a NFL Head Coach...

Posted by: 4th | October 10, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

RI has been brutal today. I guess the D-fans finally figured out what the Internet could be used for other than watching animal husbandry vidoes.

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 10, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

So it is Brett Favre BDay (38).

Now NFLN -

Rod Woodson saying everyone is overlooking WASH and their Defense and JC, but shouldn't.

Posted by: 4th via scout.com | October 10, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah JJ must have sold his soul to the devil to win a game with you have 6 TOs and give up 3 RET TD's

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 10, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Did you see Mike Irvin jumping up and down, reminescent of Dan Snyder jumping up and down like a trekie after the 2nd of Santa's TDs that tuesday morning 2 years ago?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | October 10, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

***Fantasy Post***

I picked up Receiver, The this week. I'm seriously thinking about starting him too!

Posted by: kost52 | October 10, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

***Fantasy Post***

I picked up Receiver, The this week.

Posted by: kost52 | October 10, 2007 07:49 PM

Oh, puhleeze. Tell me about it!! I SO know what you mean!

Posted by: Bucky in NW | October 10, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

***Fantasy Post***

Kost,
I picked him up two weeks ago and was thinking about playing him in the Lions game.

I think he might see some action. I'm playing Santana, but he's coming off and injury and the D will key on him. I really don't think GB is too worried about Brandon. With the injuries, it makes sense. You can't play your way out of the dog house, without a chance to play.

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I would at least waste an early down letting Soup wing one 70 yds towards Receiver, The. What's the worst that could happen? He gets hurt? Hmm. It gets picked off? Interceptions don't matter!

Staubach and Dorsett on the field together at the Pitt/Navy game. My life flashed before my eyes.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Here's a fun one. Who are the five most significant players in Skins history, who never played for the Skins? So for instance for the Boys it might be...

Don Beebe
Darrell Green
Dwight Clark
Lynn Swann
and alright, maybe LaVar.

Immediately, the play I am referring to pops right into your mind. What ya got?

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching the NFLN replay of the Green Bay/Chicago game. Donald Driver is eating up Chicago's corners when they give him that 8-10 yrd cushion.

That receiver Jones doesn't seem to like contact too much. He needs to be popped early and often.

Posted by: JustMe | October 10, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Good question, SMACK. When you mentioned Lavar, the original LT flashed through my mind for having a similar effect on the Skins. QB killers are the hardest to forget, aren't they?

Posted by: JustMe | October 10, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Just Me, if I were thinking about the Skins, LT56 is #1.

But it doesn't have to be bad things, it might be Don McNeal for missing that tackle on Riggo. But you guys don't seem to remember him by name. More like a speed bump with #28 on it.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

P. Diddy, are you out there? They used doughnuts to trap me in pointless meetings all day! I wanted to Jet-Pak the sjk outta there.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Basically. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | October 10, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Jasno-

As much as I sometimes loathe your affinity for the Ravens.I recognize good football knowledge..it turns out that I have them as my fantasy Defense, and also have to start McGahee at RB.

Can you tell me what is up with both? Both have underperformed, but I am hoping can turn it around vs. Rams...any thoughts?

Posted by: Clowney | October 10, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

1. LT
2. McNabb - Pre Age 30
3. Norv - He seemed like he was coaching for the other team in the 90s
4. Tiki
5. Alstot

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | October 10, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Ofcourse because of my youthfulness, I can only go back so far...

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | October 10, 2007 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see today's TWP sports section? The article on the Cowboys got as many column inches as the story on 'Skins secondary. WUWT?

Cindy care to share?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Emit Smith ahhh!

Posted by: M&M | October 10, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

We have a lot of depth on this team. More than any in the last 16 years (not saying much)

Except QB. JC be careful.

Posted by: M&M | October 10, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I hope Adam (Eagles Fan) would vote for Joe Pisarcik as the most important non-Eagle.

4th, good thing you are too young to remember Jack Squirek and Marcus Allen.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I was trying to remember who from the Raiders was bashing the Skins, but I couldn't conjure anything up.....

Alstot had some carrer games against us though. Especially that playoff game in '99...

Posted by: 4th | October 10, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Gimme ( in no order )

1. Don McNeal ( 70 chip !! )
2. Randall Cunningham
3. Emmitt Smith
4. Mike Alstott
5. LT

Those are just off the top of my head...and borrowed a few from 4th

Posted by: Reppin TX | October 10, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Stumped - Well he almost out performed the guy he's replacing (Mushin Muhammed) last week, and I'm thinking it'd be a good omen to have at least one Redskin on my team as I come up against SMACK this week. I agree that he may get a bit more of a chance this week. Even more so if Santana isn't fully healthy. I have too many injuries to my WR's and I'm getting desperate.

Posted by: kost52 | October 10, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Picked Don McNeal becuase it was a positive signifigance (sp) for us. If he doesn't slip following Clint Didier in motion...ol Riggo may not score..................................................WAIT A MINUTE ...Who am i kidding, of course he scores !!!

Posted by: Reppin TX | October 10, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

4th, you are totally right about Alstott, and that's an interesting spin naming a coach.

Haha Getcha popcorn ready.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Does it have to be a player? Can I choose a certain End Zone Wall?

Posted by: kost52 | October 10, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Does it have to be a player? Can I choose a certain End Zone Wall?

Posted by: kost52 | October 10, 2007 09:45 PM


Ladies and Gentlmen ....we have the line of the day !!!!

Posted by: Reppin TX | October 10, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

1. Clint Longley
2. Marcus Allen
3. Jack Squirek
4. Donovan McMuffin
5. Lawrence Taylor

Posted by: LH | October 10, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

jason, looks like you've p'ed off the old man. tut tut! shame on you.

i told you. you picked the wrong year to be doggin every skins move.

don't worry winning does cure all but also makes one more forgiving. or it does me.

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, you're warming my heart with that Miracle in the Meadowlands reference, but most Eagles memories are not that pleasant.


Growing up, Timmy Newsome lead blocking for Tony Dorsett was my biggest nightmare, but hands down Rod Martin's Super Bowl XV performance was a bigger heartbreak than any high school/college breakup ever was.

Once we get to the 90s', I'm voting (a lot) for Norman Braman. Yeah, he's our owner, but man was a disaster. The other thing that really hurt us in the early 90's was Jerome Brown's fatal car wreck. Ugh.

I'm too depressed to continue. Carry on.

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 10, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

pkhammy, don't know what you have been watching but Daniels has been pretty fierce. In fact, after he separated his shoulder making a HUGE play, he came back in the game and played.

Posted by: Lisa | October 10, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Redskins' Defense Poses Major Challenge

http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2007/10/10/2/

Posted by: JustMe | October 10, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't really see enough games to name players who were regularly a thorn, the only ones I can think of, are one of plays/games that are stuck in my head. Although I do like 4th's Mike Alstott nomination, that lump was always a pain in the butt.

One that sticks in my mind, is Boomer Esiason, I remember a game, think it was the Norv era, when Boomer was with the Cards, it was a game we needed to win and should have won, but the bloke threw for some massive amount of yards, like 500 or something ridiculous like that. I just remember being extremely frustrated that we just couldn't do anything to stop him!

Posted by: kost52 | October 10, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

philip daniels "fierece"? sorry lisa, what line have you been watching? it's AC and griff and then there's a sharp drop in talent level in the rest of the "interchangeable" gang on that D line.

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I remember that game. He 500+ yds and had as many INTs as TDs and Skins still lost.

Posted by: LH | October 10, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kost52 | October 10, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

That Boomer game is one of my worst memories ever as a redskin fan......

Posted by: chris larry | October 10, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry guys, good memories are allowed too. My favorite non-Cowboy has got to be that Vikings guy who agreed to give us fourteen #1 draft picks for Herschel Walker.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

***EPL Fantasy Post***

kost, I sold my soul to the devil, but now, I am unstoppable!

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

watching the Navy-Pitt game and my newly acquired cable/dvr just fritzed. Lame.

Can't a guy watch a middy game and get caught up on the blog without this ish going on?

F all Cowboys with the exception of Roger Staubach and Shawn Spring's dad Ron Springs.

Posted by: Dorf | October 10, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

"Throwing back some cold ones in some Green Bay watering hole and watching Game 2 of the ALCS sounds like a good Saturday night to me, and Sunday looks like a good day for football, high of 59, low of 43, cloudy, 10 percent chance of rain."

Jasno, thanks for all you do, and vaya con dios, amigo, tip a cold one for all of us who respect and appreciate ya. Wish to SJK i could join ya at that Green Bay pub on Sat nite.

HTTR!!

Posted by: RedskinWillie | October 10, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

38-38 Dorf. This game is wild.

Posted by: SMACK | October 10, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

philip daniels "fierece"? sorry lisa, what line have you been watching? it's AC and griff and then there's a sharp drop in talent level in the rest of the "interchangeable" gang on that D line.

Posted by: dealer | October 10, 2007 10:14 PM

dealer, love your stuff, but i submit that all NFL teams have holes, brought on by the salary cap.
some teams, NE comes to mind, have less holes than others, but there's no one team that has it all.

sjk, i had a point i wanted to make, but, ...oh well.

wait!! i 'member now. this time last year, when reviewing the D line, you prolly wouldn'ta even mentioned AC. am i close to right?

so there's improvement there. plus, the whole scheme the Reddawgs are runnin' this year is to have the D line hold 'em 'til the LB's get there. and i don't even wanna mention #21 and #30.

i'm just sayin'...

Posted by: RedskinWillie | October 10, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Someone was earlier likening this joint to Babel...
Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 10, 2007 06:11 PM

joint? babble? who would have ever believed these two words in the same sentence?

peace, bro...

Posted by: RedskinWillie | October 10, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

my brain is on stupid right now.

Posted by: sfskin | October 10, 2007 06:37 PM

sf, welcome to MY world.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | October 10, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

No problem.

Thrash and Yoder have "career days." At the rate we are going, we might even see #21 in a receiver set.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Anon at 11:29 (bet that was a regular who forgot to sign?) -- I'd actually like to see a goal line package with Andre Carter in there. Wonder if he has good hands?

Love his steady improvement this year, and that "baby forklift" for a safety was a sight to behold, especially if you were Jon Kitna.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 10, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Um, hate to be the guy to follow up on this, but did I see one of the regulars trying to pick up sfskin above? Wow. And... wow.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 10, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh man, re. Thursday's article on Keenan McCardell and Clark and Sanders (and Monk.) I just walked back into the bedroom and my wife asked if I had been crying. "Yes," I said. "I have been weeping. Tears of joy. Tears of happy memories. Tears of hope perhaps foolishly renewed. And they came without shame, Diana." (Diana is my wife's name. As far as you know.)
Then I explained briefly about the article and the magic seemed to dissipate. Well, her concern did. The magic is still there for me.
Anyway. Niiiiiice article... I will sleep well.

Posted by: Goldenfried | October 10, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys, Yankees, Celtics, Canadiens, Notre Dame football, UCLA basketball, Tiger Woods. Those are the flagship francises/teams/players.

What is your response to that DIK eater?

Posted by: Cowboys fans | October 10, 2007 03:50 PM

_____

I'm really surprised Zebra wasn't throwing any flags for 'piling on' this comment...

I hardly think the ITA was in effect here. How could this comment be missed?

I enjoy asking where people are from when they tell me who their favorite team is. Partly because I've moved around a lot growing up and there's something oddly instinctual about finding something in common with people you talk to, and partly to ridicule people who root for teams "because they are good" but have never actually lived in/visited the place.

I'll admit to everyone now, if the Minnesota Golden Gophers ever actually become good at sports besides hockey and women's basketball, you'll hear about it from me. Til then, go Hawaii (Rainbow) Warriors!

Posted by: Dorf | October 10, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Gotta mention,
Staubach the two minute man.
Tony D.
Landry
(I'm glad that's over with)

Posted by: Stumped | October 10, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

and in conclusion...

I am still really pissed off I'm missing this Pitt-Navy game. OT!! SJK you Comcast!

I'm switching to DishNetwork.

Posted by: Dorf | October 10, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, I can't believe I missed "flagship francises" at 3:45pm. (Okay, I was skimming all that booferic nonsense, as is my wont.)

My flagship francis is Black Francis of the Pixies.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

3:45, 3:50, whatever it takes.

Francis the Talking Mule would be in the conversation.

Not to be confused with Gus the Field-Goal Kicking Mule, who while more sportsish is not eligible for flagship francis consideration.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Saint Francis of Assisi had a good run, and then there is the Franciscan order which carried on his good works.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

And then there's this flagship francis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTUruCv4Qi4

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Let's talk about something exciting like punters. Having a discussion about Redskin punters since Mike Bragg. We couldn't even come up with half these names (thanks to http://www.databasefootball.com/teams/teampage.htm?tm=WAS&lg=nfl) I didn't any QBs or Ks who might have also punted

Mike Bragg 1968-1979
Mike Connell 1980-1981
Jeff Hayes 1982-1985
Steve Cox 1985-1988
Greg Coleman 1988
Tommy Barnhardt 1988
Ralf Mojsiejenko 1989-1990
Kelly Goodburn 1990-1993
Reggie Roby 1993-1994
Matt Turk 1995-1999
Brian Hansen 1999
Tommy Barnhardt 2000
Bryan Barker 2001-2003
Craig Jarrett 2002
Tom Tupa 2004
Andy Groom 2005
Derrick Frost 2005-2007

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 11, 2007 12:22 AM | Report abuse

noone from tampa, I couldn't even remember Andy Groom, and he was Frost's immediate predecessor! What a rogue's gallery that list is...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget Joe T! :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | October 11, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Not a punt, but didn't Danny Woeful kick off for us one time?

Ugh. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit, thinking about the Spurrier years. Those Florida QBs... ugh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:26 AM | Report abuse

BTW, hope folks got a chance to watch "Pushing Daisies". I love this show to death. Hehe :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | October 11, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

I like that spirit Nate... but really, you killed it. haha.

Best line of 10/11 so far:


Let's talk about something exciting like punters.

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 11, 2007 12:22 AM

goodnight crickets

Posted by: Dorf | October 11, 2007 12:40 AM | Report abuse

oh... and I brought this up a few days ago... I got a buddy who keeps telling me LaVar is going to make a Skins comeback. Anybody else hearing this?

Also, is there anything to a "burgundy and gold" themed restaurant in VA spearheaded by said LaVar?

Nate, dig something up for me when I wake up in 6 hours.

Posted by: Dorf | October 11, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

I know LaVar was doing the restaurant thing.

I don't know if a dude with that many injuries can make a comeback, but if he tries, more power to him.

BTW, "Bionic Woman" is beyond idiotic.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 11, 2007 12:50 AM | Report abuse

I just can't abide a too-quiet blog, Dorf. You of all people should be able to appreciate that.

0% chance LaVar comes back as a player during the Gibbs/Grilliams regime. Whatever your buddy is smoking, I would like a puff or two.

But LaVar is opening a restaurant/upscale "classy" sports bar type place somewhere around the Beltway. A few people have commented on it up here.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:51 AM | Report abuse

QBs Joe T and Jay S both punted in a game in 1985 after Hayes (I think) got hurt, but theb I'm showing my age and failing memory

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 11, 2007 12:51 AM | Report abuse

I wish LaVar all the best, don't get me wrong, but I would think that bike wreck put an end to any dreams of a comeback. Though he is still young... we drafted him in 2000, so is he around 30? Gee whiz...

But again, if it happens, it ain't happening with the Skins.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

and jasno-esque typing skills

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 11, 2007 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I was researching noone's point and came across a name that should send shivers down every 'Skins fan's spine: "Max Zendejas". Part of the world famous Flying Zendejas Brothers.

noone is right...1985:
http://www.databasefootball.com/teams/teamyear.htm?yr=1985&tm=WAS&lg=NFL

Posted by: P Diddy | October 11, 2007 12:57 AM | Report abuse

1985 Bears game, they killed us, The punter got hurt, Joe punted for like 1 yard, Jay convinced St.Joe to let him punt since he did it in high school and he avg about 30 yds a kick

and that's from memory not google

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 11, 2007 1:01 AM | Report abuse

P Diddy

The kicker list is worse only Mosely and Lohmiller standout during that same time span

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 11, 2007 1:03 AM | Report abuse

And Shazam!

Of course, I'm lobbying for Nick Novack to make the HOF. Might as well start lobbying Dr. Z now.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 11, 2007 1:06 AM | Report abuse

JustMe,

Thanks for posting this link:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2007/10/10/ramblings/every-play-counts/5586/

and the sweet video as well from veoh.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 11, 2007 2:59 AM | Report abuse

You're welcome bangkokben. It's amazing how much good stuff is out there to find when you're bored during work hours. :-)

Posted by: JustMe | October 11, 2007 6:08 AM | Report abuse

Suddenly, Redskins no longer a laughingstock

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21226036/

Posted by: JustMe | October 11, 2007 6:10 AM | Report abuse

The article would not have been legitimate had there been no reference to Archubingus in the 1st paragraph.
Laughing stock we were to have the highest paid safety in the NFL on the bench. (Yoda voice)

Hail to the Midnight ThRedSkins

-my buddy is definitely a homer but i feel bad shooting him down without a little bit o' investagory questioning.

LIKE BOZO SKINNY SPINNERS (or something like that)

Posted by: Dorf | October 11, 2007 6:53 AM | Report abuse

That power ranking will go to their heads.

Huge road stretch coming. Everyone on here wanted 3-1 and now we got it going into GB...s/be a VERY interesting game. What is the avg age of our receiving core sans Antwan? Gotta be highest for this sunday.

Posted by: Pub Golf | October 11, 2007 6:58 AM | Report abuse

JustMe
It is just you and most of KOOL-AIDE drinking REDSKINETTEVILLE,Beating the DETROIT LIONS doesnt give anyone FOOTBALL CRED!Next 3 games will determine that PACK,CARDS,PATS?? Lions gave up 56 pts to 1-3 eagles,Both are clearly PRETENDERS! Cards beat STEELERS so they get a little FOOTBALL cred! SKINYS 3 wins have a COMBINE 4 wins 3 go to DETROIT! Once again JustMe it is JustYou!!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 11, 2007 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Pub Golf
Green Bays Defense is way ahead of Detroits and its at LAMBEAH field so this will tell you how far along JC really is?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 11, 2007 7:06 AM | Report abuse

7:02 anonymous, you obviously need something to do. Why not read an article that pertains to you: http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/19789.html

Posted by: JustMe | October 11, 2007 7:17 AM | Report abuse

1985 Bears game, they killed us...

Posted by: noone from tampa | October 11, 2007 01:01 AM

Oh yeah, who was the only team to beat the (and take their lunch money) '85 Bears? :-)

Would that it were 1985 again and I still had 14 years of Dan Marino to look forward to again. With beer.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:19 AM | Report abuse

I think you guys are getting too worried about this game. Green Bay has some good (bump a lot and cover well too) Corners, and their Defensive line is stouter than Detroit's, but they're young and they're not THAT good yet.

Yuou may have to grit this one out with a 66/33% run/pass split (to control the clock and keep Favre off the field) but you should EXPECT to win this. If you don't you probably are not where you need to be to really contend this year.

Although this team should get better with another year of stability under it's belt.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:23 AM | Report abuse

JustMe, I didn't think you were usually and early bird on here? It's usually me and an occasional other (usually Kost trying not to go to bed!) on here at this time.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh, monoblogging....

* Checks Blog for pulse...
Holds mirror up to Blog 'mouth'...

Phew!!! That's lucky.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Well, seeing as I'm on my own for a while.

Welcome to DOLPHINS Insider!!! With me your genial host, Jasno LaCoatfora

* Hums along to cheerful 'oh and five' tune that is broken out at this time of every year for Miami fans *

Oh, we're oh and five, oh and five,
Trying hard to stay alive.
Oh and five, oh and five,
At the bottom's where we thrive!!

Repeats ad newseum.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:30 AM | Report abuse

* Whistles gaily to keep up his spirits *

Miami has the Dolphins,
The lamest football team!
We take the ball, go three and out
Like no one's ever seen!

Drops in the air,
Balls on the ground,
We're never in control.
So when you say Miami,
You're talking Toilet Bowl!

(Chorus)
Cause we're the Miami Dolphins,
Miami Dolphins,
Miami Dolphins Number 32.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:33 AM | Report abuse

* Tries to think of other songs, decides to use UK soccer song cadences *

We've got Trent Green, we've Trent Green,
You ain't, you ain't!!

OH...,
We hate Dal-las, we hate Dal-las,
We hate Dal-las and we hate Dal-las,
We hate Dal-las and we hate Dal-las.
We are the Dal-las, haters!

* This next one is usually reserved for the opposition and is sung to the tune of 'Knees up Mother Brown' *

You're not very good,
You're not very good,
You're not, you're not, you're not, you're not,
You're not very goooood!


Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Anyone want to trade for the #1 pick in the 2008 draft?

Posted by: Cam Cameron | October 11, 2007 7:40 AM | Report abuse

OK sorry 'coat, but someone has to reclaim the blog for America.

We fired once more and the British ke a comin
There wadn't nigh as many as there was awhile ago.

We fired once more and they commence to runnin'
there wadn't nigh as many as there was awhile ago

Down the Mississippi
to the Gulf O'Mexico

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 7:42 AM | Report abuse

What about some sectarian soccer songs about catholics.

Posted by: M&M | October 11, 2007 7:43 AM | Report abuse

* Continues singing *

Cheer up Trenty Green,
Oh what can it mean, for a -
new concussion, of our quarterback queen!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Alright, you made me do it:

The boys of Liverpool, When we safely landed,
Called myself a fool; I could no longer stand it;
Blood began to boil, Temper I was losin',
Poor ould Erin's isle They began abusin',
"Hurrah my soul," sez I, My shillelagh I let fly;
Some Galway boys were by, Saw I was a hobble in,
Then with a loud hurray, They joined in the affray.
We quickly cleared the way, For the rocky road to Dublin.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Never sang that stuff M&M (I'm not Scottish) and have no truck with it.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:49 AM | Report abuse

A.J. Hawk is fantastic. He is the best LB in the NFC north.

Posted by: A.J. Hawk | October 11, 2007 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah,

1,2,3,4,5

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for turning up there guys. It was like being at a Dolphins home game there for a minute; I was all on my own.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Never sang that stuff M&M (I'm not Scottish) and have no truck with it.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 07:49 AM

Either way, you're the bloody Prot, as me Nan used te say. :)

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 7:51 AM | Report abuse

* This one was used quite regularly *

I can't read, and I can't write,
but I can drive a tractor.
I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan,
and I'm a f*cking w*nker!

(SJK x2)

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Well I hope you made up for your PCness by stabbing a few chelsea(sp) fans back in the day.

Posted by: M&M | October 11, 2007 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Mono-blogging????

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Now LB, how do you know which foot I kick with?

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Actually M&M I'm the one guy you always see in the photo standing over to one side (getting ready to run away) when there was any scrapping going on.

Which wasn't as often as you might think anyway.

Maybe I shou;ld be called 'turncoat'.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 7:58 AM | Report abuse

You are my Lemon, my Cleo Lemon,
You make me happy, when skies are grey.
You'll never know dear, how much I love you,
until they take my Lemon a-way.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Fed-Ex Field is falling down,
falling down, falling down,
Fed-Ex Field is falling down, you're lame Redskins.

Build it up with Orange and Green,
Orange and Green, Orange and Green,
Build it up with Orange and Green, you're lame Redskins.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 11, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I think Chicago showed the Redskins how to beat Brett Favre. Some fault lies in Green Bay's play calling and game planning, but Chicago's D put on the pressure and forced a key turnover (Urlacher's INT) with Green Bay deep in their own territory. If they can minimize the blitzing and still get good pressure from the front four, the Redskins may just sneak out of Wisconsin with a W.

As for the BOZO GIRL FAN yesterday who liked to bring up Romo's ability to get the team in a position to win late in the game despite his multiple turnovers (I think it's a valid point)... don't you dare say it was Jason Campbell's fault the Redskins didn't beat the Giants. Get your facts straight.

Campbell had the ball on the Giants 35 yard line with 2 minutes left in the game. He got the team to the 1 yard line despite 2 penalties (one that negated a 25 yard pass to ARE) Sellers dropped a pass that could have tied the game and then Campbell took the plays given to him and handed if off to Betts where the drive ended and the Redskins lost. Proved to me he could get it done... okay, off my soap box. Silent reading is over. Back to work.

As for the Dallas

Posted by: Dorf | October 11, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

With ARE out (probably) and playing the X spot will Lloyd get more snaps this game 10-15.

They could start Thrash and the X too. I don't think our new (old) receivers know all the plays so they can start yet.

I wish we had Espy.

Posted by: M&M | October 11, 2007 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I believe ol' 'coat has not seen his bed tonight.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 8:18 AM | Report abuse

I think we match up well the GB offense.

Our weakness would be a power run up the middle/right and/or Steve Young type short passing offense.

GB has none of these things. While GB is better the the QB spot the Lions they lack any weapons except for Driver who is just OK.

They Key like most games is for the Redskins offense to score 21 without turnovers and some TOP.

Posted by: M&M | October 11, 2007 8:21 AM | Report abuse

"I wish we had Espy" seems like a bit of a reach, M&M. I like everything I've heard about the guy, but at least with the Geriatric Three we can look at a body of work in the league. Santa coming back is huge, just huge for getting the O clicking early in this game.

Way to BYGO, Redcoat!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Dorf;

I was sick the last three days (or still partying after sunday, whichever you think is cooler)... missed the comment but I suppose it was taken care of.

No TCCL's from Jasno?

Posted by: Zebra | October 11, 2007 8:27 AM | Report abuse

TCCLs are for Fridays.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 11, 2007 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Hey faker(s),

Why don't you at least post as " | " as such and such so we don't waste time reading your drivel. Have some sympathy for those who are ITAing....

OT

So my Moms scanned & sent me the Sports Page w/ the post quote from yesterday. Thanks WaPo, Jasno & Cindy! That was fun :)

Even the Cowpatty Fan GF (let's call her 'Bootz' from here on in...) was impressed, though her brother's response was he wanted her to set my Arrington jersey on fire.. [:-o

HAIL to ThRedskins!

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Huff, puff, puff.

Can't....

keep.....

up.....

with....

all....

the....

posts....

Posted by: charlie | October 11, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I am flabbergasted by the un-love for Keeenan Mcdardell. I am on record as being "pro" from the summer on (we should offered him a bit more scratch to sign here instead of Houston back in August) he is exactly what we need this season. Espy are you kidding me??? Keenan is a pro's pro who runs exact routes. This is what JC needs in a pinch, a dude he can depend on to run 10-25 yard routes to bail him out and pick up first downs.

ARE and Moss, who I love, are more burners and free lancers. That is going to mean on some plays they are out of gas and sometimes will free lance into coverage. Keenan's new nickname is "Security Blanket" in addition b/c Moss/ARE (and even in theory Flloyd) with their speed and home run potential will draw coverage, you don't think a SB player, 16 year vet, 2 time PB can beat loose nickle/dime coverage to get the needed 8 on third and 8?!?!!

Keenan is exactly the kind of piece that competetive teams need to make differences. Read the fluff piece today in the paper, or the rumors from camp....the dude already knows the playbook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least the parts relevant to him.

Lets show this cat some insider love, he is gonna ball for us!

Posted by: chris larry | October 11, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

With both or top guys out, We need to have some love for "Blanket" we will need him to show up for the next couple weeks.

Posted by: SAK | October 11, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

let's also show a little love for the coaching staff... b-4 last weeks game there were a lot of naysayers regarding gibbs' methods and decisions.. saying he washed up and he has no business being the GM..sure there have been a handfull of free agents who have been disapointments.. but lets point out some of the good pick ups.. mcardell (better late than never),moss,ARE,bringing sellers back,solidifying the o-line depth(kendall,wade,fabini)raybach,moving up to draft Soups,L2,drafting cooley,going younger on d-line,randall godfrey,smoot etc.. just to name a few...not to mention the chemistry in the locker room.. all these dudes have each others back & they are character guys with heart and great work ethic... in gibbs we trust.. hail!!!

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, cL. I misunderestimated how big this pickup would be, probably because it didn't happen until the bye week and it followed the decidedly underwhelming signing of Ray-Shay.

Color me keen on Security Blanket as a nickname for this nice old fellow. A worthy successor to the list of wily veteran WRs we've picked up through the years and who served with some distinction (Andre Reed, Irving Fryar, Henry Ellard, Tim McGee). Note: Harper, Alvin is not included on that list.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

such as

Posted by: Dorf | October 11, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3056630

Kind of interesting article. D-bag's boy Roy Williams is on there.

Posted by: Skinz | October 11, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

sniksider, I hope Jasno's post about how snippy Gibbs was about the injury list indicates there is a bee in his bonnet this week. I love seeing him fired up and feeling aggrieved, because it's infectious in that locker room...

and NOBODY but nobody is going to pick us over the Pack this week, except Sonny, so there should be a sizable chip on the team's collective shoulder...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Was it Irving Fryar that did the any given sunday grenade chuck back in 1999? That was awesome.

Back in the old days before the NFL stood for No Fun League.

Posted by: Dorf | October 11, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

And the Best Reader Post in the print edition today goes to...

NATE IN THE PDX!

"I'm much more concerned about [Phillip] Daniels and Marcus Washington than about Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El. Is the defensive front-seven rotation strong enough to go most or all of the way without those two dudes? A hell of a test...Call me foolhardy, but I am a hardy fool, and I believe Soup can continue leading us on long, clock-eating drives, which end in points."

Well done, Nate.

Posted by: redskirt | October 11, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Hail Gibbs 2.4
Hail Keenan
Hail Keenan's Rocket Powered Wheelchair
Hail Receiver, The learning to catch
Hail Sellars
Hail Soup
Hail Carter
Hail Cooley

(now dash away dash away dash away all?)

F Tank
F RomOHNO getting props for throwin' pix

oh, and F cHris LArRy

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Dorf, Sportsnet did a segment on Lavar just the other night. He is opening a football-themed restaurant/bar very close to Fedex Field (you can see Fedex in the distance). Does not appear he will play again...at least not in the near future. Lavar did say that 85% of the business knowledge he acquired came from Daniel Snyder. Lavar is also doing a few pregame shows with Sportsnet.

Sak, what do you mean by our top two WRs being out? Santana plans to play on Sunday.

Posted by: Lisa | October 11, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Lisa, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Wait...

Nice job Nate... from now on I will be BMGO with the sole purpose of getting my insights printed in the 35 cent editions. But then that would require me to actually talk about the Redskins from time to time.

Redskins*

Posted by: Dorf | October 11, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

nate.. true. hopefully a little pi$$ and viniger from st joe will get the troops fired up this weekend.. those dudes love playin' for gibbs & they will run through walls for him.

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Hail Nate in the PDX
Hail Redskirt

Hail to ThRedSkins

F NFL Scheduling for showing Carolina vs. Arizona in Miamuh...

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

dik.. i like the cut of your jib

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

HBO's NFL show...pisses me off, watched it last night and they did talk about the '87 season in which our scabs won 3 divisional games that eventually took us to the playoffs................................................sorry, had to wipe a teer, anyways, they'd rather show highlights of the Pats v Browns game, NYG v Jets game or Zona v Rams...I personally think our game had way more highlights. Just a rant, back to our regularly scheduled programming.....

Posted by: POOP | October 11, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Lurkers are always late the party! After reading up on TO's note to the media this morning, I was just pondering how much classier people seem when they DON'T celebrate. Two of my favorite defensive celebrations this season were Ed Reed's TD punt return, where he placed the ball in the endzone and jogged off to his sideline and Double-move mirroring that sunday with the INT TD return.

If defensive players can pull it together on their rare trips to the endzone, why can't we see a little more of that from the offensive players too? They're there more often, how bad would it hurt to throw in the "we're here for more than this" feeling.

So, my fantasy WR's are decimated right now and I'm thinking that Reciever, The or McCardell. I don't have a lot of faith in Mr. Lloyd, but he has been here longer. Think that'll count more in terms of touches?

Posted by: Junior | October 11, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Dik;

Its not really the NFL scheduling. It is up to the local broadcast.

Posted by: Zebra | October 11, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Watched some of the Chicago/GB game last night on NFL Network. One of their rookie receivers had 2 fumbles of the game-changing variety, hopefully, that doesn't escape G.Williams prep this week. Rushing yards are going to be hard to come by, however.

Should be a great game.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 11, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Good call on more love for McCardell, cL. I was all for the signing originally, but a little bit skeptical about how much he would contribute and how quickly once we finally did sign him. After seeing him last week I am really hopeful he'll do some very good things here. I think he makes a lot of sense as the 3rd WR since Moss, El and Flloyd are all so similar in size and speed. He just seems like the perfect compliment to what we already have and should really help Campbell with his quality route running.

I also hope Flloyd reads that piece and feels...something.

Posted by: WrongDog | October 11, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I also hope Flloyd reads that piece and feels...something.

Posted by: WrongDog | October 11, 2007 10:05 AM

What, other than "I'll grow up next year" ?

Posted by: redskirt | October 11, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Lisa,
Im sure santana will play but we need someone to count on when he either gets tired, or if his hammy or groin starts acting up again.

Posted by: SAK | October 11, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand it. The WashPo must be so hard up for content in the fish wrapper edition? This is like the fourth time they've printed my blogorrhea. Starting to feel a little bit used...

I guess people like reading the obvious!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Just relaying an impartial message to Brandon Lloyd from The Sporting News:


"For Sporting News
October 9, 2007
PERSONNEL ANALYSIS

WR Brandon Lloyd's future with the team after this season is bleak. Lloyd has not impressed the staff with his work ethic or his mastery of the offense. His route running needs to be more precise, and he needs to understand that maximum effort is expected from him in games as well as in practice. Nagging injuries, shin splints during training camp, a sore leg from getting kicked in the shin last week, have hampered his progress further. A plethora of injuries have hit the receiving corps, so Lloyd might get some opportunities in the coming weeks. He needs to make the most of them. At the moment, chances are good that the team will spend the next offseason searching for a No. 3 receiver, either in the draft or the free-agent market."

In other words, wake the hell up - for your team, your teammates as well as you future here or elsewhere.

Posted by: LIFELONGSKINSFAN | October 11, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

and this is probably only interesting to me, but this person:

"Anybody see today's TWP sports section? The article on the Cowboys got as many column inches as the story on 'Skins secondary. WUWT?

Cindy care to share?

Posted by: | October 10, 2007 09:18 PM"

had to have been a Post employee. We're the only ones who call the WaPo "TWP"

Besides, who but newspaper people know/care what a column inch is?

Posted by: redskirt | October 11, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

As I said above, as was quoted in the Washington Post print edition (ahem), the WR position is not my chief concern this week; it's not even in the top three.

First is the D front seven playing without Wash and Daniels for some or all of the game.

Second is keeping our running game going. I think CP, Betts and the O line will be ready to go off this Sunday. They were "good enough" last week, but they can be a lot better. Let's average five yards a carry in the first half and get a bunch of rushing first downs, hmmkay? Keep that clock moving, lads.

Third concern: stop putting the ball on the ground. Period. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Nate don't bring that fake modesty crap up here my man!!!! Get in the paper as much as you can, your a craftsman brother keep looking to go deep!

Posted by: cHris larry | October 11, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Hail Nate's feigned humility ;-p
Hail Jib Cutting
Hail Blloyd 'growing up'
Hail Kingdom Grill on Biscayne 4 letting JakeWEED & me watch Skins on the plasma

F WSVN Channel 7 for thinking there are more Carolina transplants than ThRedskins in Miamuh, Such As.

F Bringing back Moss too early so he can get hurt even worse (Think Springs...)

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Hail cHRis LaRRy

and F cHris LArry!

(it's still ok to say that, right?)

I'm just askin'...

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Hi haters

Posted by: Dx5 | October 11, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I'd be proud of you, but for the content of the post they printed about. The Skins only ever had 4 guys rushing ... and the credit for that performance was across the line (including the subs). Godfrey filled in admirably for Marcus, who was hurt to begin with. Admittedly, Daniels had his best game so far this season (including the preseason), but so did Carter ... and Wilson registered a big "how's your father" himself. Golsten was inactive!

I just flip you on the worry spot. The absence of ARE in the second half was obscured by three second stringers and a career day by Sellers. It worked in the second half b/c ARE was there in the first half (and the O-line was there all day) so that Jason could get his rhythm.

The D, including the rotational depth, has demonstrated they can show up. We are in (mostly) uncharted territory to move out without Santa and ARE. We need at least one of them to have the kind of first half that ARE had against the Lions, and then we would be in territory we've been to once before. This particular stable of WRs is way more of a work in progress than the D line stampeded.

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

typoed just there. extra d at the end. [which i guess is the key anyway ... extra d.]

d

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Im not even a season ticket holder but look what i just got

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Posted by: SAK | October 11, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Redskirt that was my post about the Cowboys story. I forgot to sign it. And I know column inches b/c I majored in journalism.

Posted by: LH | October 11, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I won't be posting much, which I'm sure is delightful to many of you. I'm in the house lurking today. So watch what you post because i'll see it, lol.

Now blog away

Posted by: Dx5 | October 11, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the permission DBAGX500........

Posted by: chris larry | October 11, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

D-Bag,

Here is an interesting article for you. You're boy Williams is on it.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3056630

Posted by: Skinz | October 11, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I find it funny that dude would come on to say he won't be posting much as if he would have been missed. Get over yourself my man.

Posted by: LH | October 11, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Dx5, this is how it begins. Peeps come for the football, and stay for the jibba jabba. Bid farewell to anything you previously knew as "productivity" at work.

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Actually DBAGX500 go get a lot of work done, be very productive, excell in your workplace....

Posted by: chrIS Larry | October 11, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if anyone has put this up here yet.

GB Coach Mike McCarthy - "This team coming in here, the Washington Redskins, just on watching the film, is the best team that we've played to date."

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071011/PKR01/710110557/1989

Posted by: bigfish | October 11, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

LH, my apologies. I thought we were the only dorks who include the "T" in our acronym, TWP.

As in THE Washington Post

Posted by: redskirt | October 11, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Bigfish - I would have to agree w/Mikey... Just like the Cowgirls are finally going to play a quality team on Sunday. We've played 2 quality teams to date...almost beating them both....yeah yeah, horshoes and hand grenades....

GO SKINS!

Posted by: POOP | October 11, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Cant wait for the girls to get spanked this weekend.

Posted by: Zebra | October 11, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

No problemo.

Posted by: LH | October 11, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Hail Lurking Dx5 - now a ThRedskin
Hail Jibba Jabba

F Work

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

POOP,

I would disagree with. I think that's idiotic.

PS. do you happen to live in the Idaho Falls area?

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6616

Posted by: Crusher of Skulls | October 11, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Nope, never been to Idaho Falls...I usually deficate in a toilet...but that's just me, to each his own I suppose.

Posted by: POOP | October 11, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

POOP I'm confused, other than the Giants, who else have we "almost beaten" this season?

As far as I've been able to tell, we've beaten everyone else (man I love being able to say that).

Posted by: redskirt | October 11, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Hail Girl Spanking!

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

The game ball I'd pay a ton of money for would be the first pick the Skins have this weekend on Favre. Favre's first pick this weekend will lead the NFL in lifetime picks. Favre's first pick will put him ahead of the current lifetime record holder for being picked, George Blanda.

[Of course, it would be cooler if the pick belonged Sean Taylor or Landry or Springs, rather than Carlos or Smoot or Macklin, but I'm guessing none of those guys would sell it anyway.]

You hear that Skins' secondary?! This isn't your nose like your mother warned you about! We want some picks!

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

That would be swet ball to have, we should get at least one pick this week.

Posted by: SAK | October 11, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Redskirt....

The Detroit Lions had the #1 passing attack in the league before we dismantled them...no?

Posted by: POOP | October 11, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

dik.. i like the cut of your jib

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 09:53 AM

This may be my favorite combo-nation of words on this blog yet.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Kitna was de-fanged by keeping him off the field in the first half. He could never get his rhythm.

Keeping Favre off the field is the key to getting and sustaining momentum. [Apply same defensive game plan to P. Manning, Tom Brady, and any other QB in a pass first offense.] Blitzing is less important than stopping the O from getting first downs.

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Redskirt -

You're right, I mistyped....almost beat 1 of the 2 quality teams we played....my mistake.

Posted by: POOP | October 11, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I'll be in LA in a few weeks and was wondering where is the best bar in the valley or santa monica to go and watch the skins play?

Posted by: Uncle Spence | October 11, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I just flip you on the worry spot. The absence of ARE in the second half was obscured by three second stringers and a career day by Sellers. It worked in the second half b/c ARE was there in the first half (and the O-line was there all day) so that Jason could get his rhythm.
-sween

Yeah, but what makes us think santana won't play?

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Kitna was de-fanged by keeping him off the field in the first half. He could never get his rhythm.
-sween

and when he was in the game the front 4 were constantly in his face, due mostly to good coverage, obviously.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

bigfish..good lookin out on the opponent's link once again.. you always seem to come through with some info or an article that gives us some insight on what the other team is saying about the skins..

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I dunno - I have a feeling effective blitzing is what dismantled them last week. I think if we just sit back against GB, their line will take care of BidNez.

Now they lost their Center - so their going to be concentrating on that position. Maybe we test the new guy by sending Golston up the middle a bunch, maybe even some Area51?

Such As?

Posted by: Dik | October 11, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Spence-There are a couple of good sports bars on 3rd street promenade in Santa Monica. Can't remember names, it's been a while

Posted by: nah | October 11, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

"LH, my apologies. I thought we were the only dorks who include the "T" in our acronym, TWP. As in THE Washington Post"

Posted by: redskirt | October 11, 2007 10:51 AM

So what you're saying is that, if Receiver, The does get a chance to get in the game again and screws up, he becomes R, T?

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

yeah, fish, nice. Just don't post anything on their blogs.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

"I'm a huge Washington Redskins fan and I cannot understand why Art Monk has not been selected for the Hall of Fame. Art was the all-time leading receiver (940 receptions) at one time in his career and won a couple of Super Bowls. Michael Irvin was inducted last year. Why do you think they keep passing Art by?"

Joel Shuster
Randolph, N.J.

The No. 1 argument I hear against Monk is the lack of Pro Bowl appearances. He only made it three times. When you look at the amount of time he played - 16 years - and in his conference, he was only among the top four receivers three times, then how could he be a Hall of Famer? And keep in mind here: we're just talking about within his conference, not the whole league. And people say, if they were only going to take one receiver away from the Redskins offense, they would try to slow down Gary Clark. When you take all of that into consideration, there's a very strong case to keep him out of Canton.

Posted by: Cris Carter on Yahoo.com | October 11, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

aint nothin' wrong w/ a little jib cutting..

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

F Cris Carter, forever.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I don't recall any blitzes last week, per say. They had MW and Wilson coming off the edge. There were defnitely no classic Grilliams safety or multi dback blitzes, even on running plays.

I don't think the exact same strategy will work against Favre who has chunks of guys like Kitna in his stool. I think we're going to have to gamble a little more and make Brett force his throws and get out of rythym.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Thanks LB and snik (for short). I never post on any other team's blog. Thursdays and Fridays are usually the best time to go snooping for inside info on the opposition.

Posted by: bigfish | October 11, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Dik, I don't recall that they blitzed AT ALL. It was just four guys in the back field ... all the time ... that's a rush, not a blitz. [Sometimes, Washington got back there, but that was when he was a down lineman.]

*** Maps, such as ***

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Cris Carter is obviously off the wagon again.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I actually beat you on the analysis, sween! Mark the date and time.

student become teacher...

literally.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

'scuse me. *hiccup* i haf been sippin' *hiccup* on my gin-in-juice

Posted by: cris carter | October 11, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

pressuring fav-re is the key (no secrets there), however it is the way in which pressure is applied.. the front 4 getting a major push is key, although green bay's o-line is a lot better than detroit's.. blitzing is a risk, cuz favre tends to hit hot routes and check downs pretty well... but interior d-line stunts w/ the LBs may prove to be the key, rather than selling out a leaving the DBs on an island. Hopefully the front 7 can get him out of the pocket & outside the hash marks where he just throws it up for grabs..

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

cris carter is fing horrible. There is no bigger hof snub than art monk! How in the hell can you retire as the all time receptions leader, and not be in the HOF???
F the blowmaker
F cris carter
F steve largent
Hail to Art Monk!

Posted by: nah | October 11, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

snik,

the key to stopping hot reads is to hit the receivers at the line, also risky because they can get gone with one move. That said, I don't think the Packer's receivers are quick enough or experienced enough to do that very well.

Plus, I'd love for that dude who fumbled the ball twice against the bears to come over the middle on a slant against area 51.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 11, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Have seen Green Bay play twice this year.
Victory over Philadelphia, loss to Bears.

Observations:
Favre is throwing many many short passes.
Many passes to backs as well.
I'm thinking LL will be closer to the line this week w/ the Reaper back playing center field vs. the long ball.
If Farve is throwing short stuff perhaps GG will have corners playing up and tight to mess with the shorter routes.

What say ye Skins fans?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | October 11, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Redskins win. 'Nuf said!

Posted by: bigfish | October 11, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

LB - Donald Driver comes to mind.

Posted by: bigfish | October 11, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I think we'll see a similar game plan as v detroit. Make them run the ball. Green bay throws a lot more slants and short stuff, so they'll have to press a bit more, which I don't think is a bad thing.

Posted by: nah | October 11, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Look, fellas, we're going to concede catches in the soft underbelly, within ten yards of the line. It's a given in this D, since that's the tradeoff for never letting them get behind us for the bomb.

What we have to continue doing well is pursue and punish after the catch. And we have to be vigilant about draw plays, screens and such as.

And by "we," of course I mean the football team which pays my salary and yours.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 11, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Yes you can all hate on me but don't you remember all those peices on me mentoring Randy Moss? How can you hate me. Didn't I do a good job. Look how great Randy Moss turned out....

F Me
F HOF Committee
F Anyone who doesn't think Art Monk should be in the HOF

Posted by: Chris Carter | October 11, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

LB. true, true... I think they can use the DB's for jams and coverage this week and run LB stunts to apply pressure, cuz GB's running attack aint scaring anybody.. the that & just hitting them in the SJKing mouth should be enough.

Posted by: sniksder | October 11, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

John Cena will be out of action up to 12 months with a torn bicep.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 11, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Skinz- I see they're giving T.O. and Ware some kudos, kind of. Everyone knows that Roy Williams is his best at the LOS. That is why Ken Hamlin was signed, to have him cover downfield. It's a shame Jason Ferguson was lost for the year. It would be interesting to see the Cowboys in a 4-6, they have the linebackers and d-line to pull it off.

Other NFL stuff...

I loved the note Terrell Owens left on his locker. I think him and Randy Moss are the two best WR in football over the last 10 years, when they're not bickering with QB's or taking plays off. Oh and Randy Moss has like a 30/yd. reception avg. with like 6 TD's in Texas Stadium, needless to say I'm a little worried.

Lance Briggs just defined the meaning ashy to classy. He now wants to remain in Chicago. I don't know, how can one minute you on national TV saying "I'll never play for the Bears again" (Yeah right, like he was leaving 7mil on the table) and then show up in training camp. No doubt he was influenced by the best sports agent walkin: Drew Rosenhaus.

Wade Phillips contacted the league office to complain about coaches trying to 'ice' kickers. I think the fact the kicker had to kick twice was his real argument. He claims if your kicking a 30 yard field goal its ok because not a lot of energy is used, but 50 yarders can be a little harder for the kicker, especially if you have to do it within the span of 30sec.

It's official. Three things in life are a given. The aura of the Dallas Cowboys, Brett Favre's quick slant, and Vinny. Yes Vinny Testaverde will not only hold a clipboard this season, but is looking to see some action after injuries to Jake Delhomme and David Carr. Vinny has a lot of cred in my book. Some people will think a player is garbage based on the fact they played for so many teams, I think nothing can be further from the truth. If you have played 12 years and played for 8 or 9 teams that means you have longevity. Long live Testaverde!

The latest Cole/Robinson NFL power rankings on yahoo.com have the Skins seated at 9 and Dallas at 3. I think these are easily the two best teams in the NFC east and maybe the NFC, peroid. The NFL is always better when rivarly teams are playing good football.

Thats just my 2 measly pennies.

Posted by: Dx5 | October 11, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Skinz | October 11, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

File this under backhanded complements...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032875/

Posted by: Stumped | October 11, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

dcsween, I believe Dik was referring to the Bears blitzing the Packers last weekend - not our game. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dik.

Posted by: Lisa | October 11, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

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