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Injuries

Obviously, Jason Campbell remains out. He did throw a little bit on the side today, I am told, for the second time. But the last time his knee swelled up some, so they will have to guage how he progresses this week.

Campbell was the only player not on the field for the walk through.

Receiver James Thrash remains in a walking cast on his injured ankle, but Coach Joe said that Thrash is the only injury "concern" for the game. He said Randall Godfrey and Stephon Heyer are "fine" and he expects them to be full go when the Redskins practice tomorrow.

Thursday's practice will be shorter than normal - like what the team would usually do on a Friday - and then Friday is some walk throughs and meetings in the morning, before leaving at 2pm for Seattle.

By Jason La Canfora  |  January 2, 2008; 3:28 PM ET
 
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Comments

First maybe?

Posted by: dave197391 | January 2, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

So does anyone think that Todd will be the starter come next year? Do you think they'll let him walk? If ever the time was for him to strike while the iron is hot--don't think he can wait another 10 years!

Posted by: nojunk4me | January 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | January 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

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Looks like we've taken Jeff Ireland from the Boys to be our new GM. Sorry SMACK. He he he.

Apologies to all who could care less.

>

Posted by: toddcoat | January 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Man, I don't check the site for an hour and there's two new threads and I sparked a RED debate. Wonderful!

How about 'REDRUM' them Seahawks!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | January 2, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

You know Gibbs...Campbell will probably have this injury until week 10 of next season.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 2, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

4-12...my...God. Wow.

I thought I had a great job. Wow.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 2, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

TC, nicely done, thanks for weakening the pukes. When Garrett leaves they'll be falling apart.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | January 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

We punched the Seahags in the mouth the last time we played them in the playoffs, and if we had somebody other than a Ramen Noodle QB back then, we woulda taken 'em!

I wish I could go back to the 80's, we would been the State Champs...

Posted by: pulldownclaw | January 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

No way you let Collins go. Some fans are looking at this the wrong way. Why choose one over the other at this point if you don't have to. Every team needs two good quarterbacks and we have two. I don't think it should be an open competition next year. Jason Campbell is the starter, but on a short leash (I wouldn't tell him that)

What no one is talking about is whether, Gibbs will show Campbell the same loyalty he showed Brunell.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 2, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Is that Gibbs the (build for the future) Team President, or Gibbs the (win at all costs now) Head Coach rickyroge?

Posted by: toddcoat | January 2, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge,

Speaking from experience (see Jeff Garcia in 2006), it's not that the Skins do not want to keep the Todd, it's that they may not be able to afford him.

You can't pay 2 QBs starting QB $s and without serious salary cap ramifications. If he decides to hit the open market, the Todd will command starting QB $s after his 2007 end of season performance.

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

#21
Todd is the man until he drops. Jason will be waiting in the wings learning.

Posted by: COLUMBIASKINS | January 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I agree. No way you let Collins go.

However, if Saunders was to get a head gig, you'd have to imagine he'd take Todd with him. I hope neither of those things happen.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | January 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Teams that have never won a Super Bowl:

* Buffalo Bills
* Cincinnati Bengals
* Cleveland Browns
* Houston Texans
* Jacksonville Jaguars
* Tennessee Titans
* San Diego Chargers
* Philadelphia Eagles
* Detroit Lions
* Minnesota Vikings
* Atlanta Falcons
* Carolina Panthers
* New Orleans Saints
* Arizona Cardinals
* Seattle Seahawks

Ahem.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Red Cartwright
Redche Caldwell
Red Doughty
LaRed Landry
Redall Godfrey
Redd Collins
Clinton Redtis
Santanred Moss
London Redtcher
Stefon Redyer
Casey Redbach
Keenan McRedell
Chris Coolred
Antwaan Randel Red
Gredd Williams


Posted by: dcsween | January 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Joe et al

See my first post. Can you really keep the Todd if he hits the open market in free agency?

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

As Jerry might say, any one of 500 Jeff Irelands could have done whatever it was Jeff Ireland did.

Not as if any Super Bowl rings will be setting off the metal detectors at DFW on his way outta town.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

#21
Todd will not leave the REDSKINS. He has been thrown aside by the NFL, and the skins showed him love. HE will remember that, plus DANNY has ALL the money in the world. He does SECRET deals that don't count against the cap like JERRY JONES.

Posted by: COLUMBIASKINS | January 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

COLUMBIASKINS

Aren't you a wee bit old to still believe in leprechauns?

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 2, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The big question for Todd is....will he be as successful in a new system? He has studied Saunders offense for 8-10 years.
Plus he is 36 - or close to it.

Posted by: Lisa | January 2, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

No. I believe in you

Posted by: COLUMBIASKINS | January 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Who is this mook Floyd Reese on ESPN?

He looks like he could be Uncle Charlie's understudy on "My Three Sons."

It makes me sick watching him and Sean Salisbury on "NFL Live" right now... Both of them had the Skins (and Gibbs in particular) dead and buried a month ago. AND seemed almost gleeful about it.

Now suddenly, they are showering the Skins with praise.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

First the Skins will avenge the 2005 playoff loss this weekend...then they will travel to Dallas and end the winking, smiling Romo and the so much overated talk of a cowboys team this year. PERIOD! Of course doing so advances them to the NFC Championship game at GB ...Repectful team that had a great regular season, surprised everyone & has a great record through the years at home with the great Farve at the helm..but this will end as well...Brett and the Pack cannot overcome these Redskins who are on a mission. In a very close hard fought Game..SURPRISE. The Skins are In the Super Bowl against the heavy favorite Pats. All week long all you have read about and heard about are the Pats and going undefeated. Almost to the point where they are the Champs and have the formality of playing a game. The Skins are an after thought. In fact are the biggest underdog and largest point spread in Super Bowl History and hardly talked about. So there ya have it...The Pats end up having way too much pressure and lose their edge and The Skins are over looked by the Pats and the world because of the beating the Pats gave them at midseason and then Defeat the Pats to avenge being the team who lost to the last undefeated team in 72 and shock the world with the most incredible, surprising, unlikely, run of any team in United States sports history and capture the Super Bowl Title and become the most beloved Redskins team by Skins Nation in it's 75 year History..even though the 82 team is still in the hear of Skins Nation ..This 2007 team will win over and be a badge on our sleeve and cement Joe Gibbs in the same sentence as Vince Lombardi.... overcoming odds and winning a 4th SB with a different QB after a 12 year retirement.

HAIL!

Posted by: leevi98 | January 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Accu-weather (not) update for Seattle Saturday:

Rain (surprise) with temps in the low 40s.

I imagine that the weather outlook for Seattle from roughly late September through early March.

No wonder Kurt Cobain was such a cheerful person.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 2, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin21,

Floyd Reese is the former Tennesee Titans GM....he is quite knowledgable.

And let's face it....everyone had the Skins buried 4 weeks ago.

Posted by: Lisa | January 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Leevi98,

Can you bring some of that stuff to PDiddy's soiree on Friday. Seattle's a preety open minded town, so it's all good.

Posted by: dchandl3 | January 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, did you bring enough to share what you're smoking/drinking/injecting/snorting/inhaling?

Posted by: nojunk4me | January 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

I think the bigger question for the Todd is does he want to go for the big payday or not. One could easily find similarities between the Todd and Jeff Garcia (same age, same knock as one trick system QBs, etc.). If so, Todd's looking at the opportunity for a 2 yr/10 million contract

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

argh/Adam, I agree with Lisa here. No one is going to offer $20M guaranteed to a 37 year old QB who's been in 1 system for his whole career unless that team also gets the system.

I could see some team offering him him big money in the out years of a contract that he'd probably never see. But Todd's no fool. I think his wagon is tied to Big Al's.

If he ge's a Dockery deal from someone, well, so be it.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | January 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

That weather forecast sounds good to me.

While it might hurt the Seahags passing game, after watching games in the Meadowlands (gale force winds) and FedEx (in the rain), it is apparent that The Todd's passes are impervious to the elements.

So, to quote Eric Clapton: Let It Rain.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Adam,

We are already paying our QB's high salary. We have the highest paid qb ever 3rd string..Collins himself is in the millions, as well as Campbell lower millions. We cut Brunell, sign Collins somewhere in between 3-5 mill, draft a qb or bring one off practice squad and we are actually saving next year.

Paying him will not be an issue. Collins himself would not want to go nowhere and learn a new offense at 37 years old. Matter of fact he will not attract huge offers that younger QB's attract solely because of his age.

Posted by: mastdark81 | January 2, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Cobain = Aberdeen, WA
Grohl = Springfield, VA

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 2, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Current poll on NFL.com:

Which team will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl?

Cowboys 36%

Packers 40%

Buccaneers 3%

Seahawks 4%

Giants 4%

Redskins 10%

Total Votes: 43083

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I could see Collins getting a Kurt Warner type of deal from someone. Bring him in to be the starter and then draft his replacement in April.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | January 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

The only man who offers multi-million dollar contracts to 37 year-old QBs is Al Davis.

But The Todd is too classy to ever wear the silver & black, so no worries there.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

And let's face it....everyone had the Skins buried 4 weeks ago.

Posted by: Lisa | January 2, 2008 04:28 PM
------------------------------

I didn't.

And I'm sure I'm not alone in that regard.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Miami probably needs an older "start for a year or two and bring on the rookie" QB and I think Cam runs a system very like Weird Al's, hence Trent Green picking it up so fast.

And we're currently $20M+ under the cap and will have even more room once Parcells starts wielding the axe...

And we have the number one pick next year.

Just sayin' is all.

Posted by: toddcoat | January 2, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

NFL.com has a poll who will win the NFC Playoffs.

Pack: 40%
Boys: 36%
Skins: 10%
Gmen: 4%
Hawks: 4%
Bucks: 3%

Posted by: alex35332 | January 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Damn you Freak. Ya beat me on that one.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Interesting observation, coat.

Plus Todd's joints would loosen up a lot easier in the FL heat. He (and Jeff Garcia) could play into their 40s :)

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

What QB is Billy going to take with the top pick?

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin, I meant all the media....and they were not even bashing us...just saying it was understandable after all we had gone through.

Posted by: Lisa | January 2, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

No QB etrod, it looks 95% we'll take Dorsey, 5% McFadden. Dorsey would fix a lot of the problems we had on defense immediately.

Then we just have to get Jason Taylor to stay on another year or two (good chance with Parcells) and Zach Thomas and Trent Green to retire (also a good chance with their concussion issues). That gives us back a boatload of cap space to find some receivers and a quarterback with.

Posted by: toddcoat | January 2, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

BTW I say Miami will more likely make a run at Derek Anderson. If memory serves he lit us up when we played the Browns this season.

But the Todd could definitely do a job for us too!

Posted by: toddcoat | January 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

That video of the dallas fans fighting is High-sterical!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 2, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

So, like, I don't get the trolls and stuff. The Seahawks trolls. Supporting your team is great and all, and I applaud it, but just what is it about Seattle's schizophrenic performances all year, and particularly at the end of the regular season, that causes these trolls to exude such confidence?

Seems silly to me.

If the Redskins skated into the playoffs by virtue of playing the weakest schedule in the league, and finished the season playing spotty football, then even if they were playing at home, I wouldn't be running off at the mouth. I especially wouldn't be doing it if the team they were about to play had been tested to the extreme this season, but had come through it by solidifying as one unit, and finished the season dominating its opponents.


So to the trolls I will say only this:

The opponent that you will see at Qwest Field on Saturday is unlike any other that you have seen there this year.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Everyone,

Todd Collins is not going to get outrageous money based on four games of work. Garcia is an exception. You have to consider all the variables here:

1.What teams in the league are going to be looking for a starting QB? Very few. The only teams that sticks out for this category is Minnesota and Baltimore. Philly may get rid of McNabb but they have Feeley and they drafted Kolb for the future just like Campbell. Nobody else in the NFC east needs a starting QB as they all made the playoffs.

The NFC North, except for Vikings and maybe Chicago, does not need someone to start.

NFC South - TB, NO definitely not. Carolina will probably stick with Delhomme/Carr tandem, and nobody knows what's going on in Atlanta at this point.

NFC West - Seattle and St. Louis are set. Leinart will come back for Arizona and may have to battle with Warner. San Francisco is heavily invested in Smith and Shaun Hill may have just found a home for next season, if the 49ers want to get rid of veteran Trent Dilfer and save some cap space.

AFC East - Patriots are a definite no. Miami obviously needs help at this position unless Trent Green plans on playing in a motorized wheelchair. Buffalo will stick with the Edwards/Losman tandem, and the Jets will stick with what they have.

AFC North-

Ravens could use a new guy but have three QBs under contract for next season. I could see Smith being the backup to either of the other two with someone getting cut. Pittsburgh is set. Cleveland says they will hear offers for Anderson, due to Cleveland investing 2008 first rounder to get Quinn. In my opinion, don't get rid of Anderson until you know what Quinn can really do. Anderson can't be costing much against the cap. Cincy is set and invested in Palmer.

AFC South - Every team is set. Even Houston does not need a QB.

AFC West - Denver, San Diego, and Oakland are set. Could Kansas City want Collins back?

In my opinion, you have to look at this from Collins's perspective. He has made a great impression and lets the team know they have someone to count if Jason gets hurt again or just does not progress fast enough.

Teams will only pay him the league minimum for vets over 10+ years which is getting closer to $1M per year which the Skins are already paying him.


The key to Collins is what happens to Al Saunders. I think Gibbs and Snyder are finally seeing what Saunders 700 page playbook can produce and may have gotten Saunders a new contract. The question is cna the Redskins get his contract done before interest from other teams who are starting to fire coordinators left and right. I think that plays to our advantage. If they get Saunders to stay I can see Collins staying again.

When you compare the Redskins to Minnesota, Baltimore, Miami, the Jets(?), Kansas City, Atlanta (stretch), Chicago, where would you want to be a back up?

Minnesota and Kansas City to me are the closest contenders. Who would not want to play on a team with the RB tandem of Petersen/Taylor? Kansas City has comfortability but with a new offensive coordinator being brought in.

Or you can come back and potentially start for a team you lead to the playoffs with their backs against the wall. If they keep Todd, then a decision on Brunell must be made by Snyder. They can convert a lot of his salary to bonus to save the cap hit but do you want to pay a 3rd stringer almost $7M in cash over the last two year when no one else in the league will pick him up at the vet minimum?

Posted by: straub21 | January 2, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Obviously the playoffs will determine some of this, but all things being equal...

Todd Collins is the starting quarterback of the Washington Redskins as long as Al Saunders is here, and until he loses his mojo. You simply do not put a player who is doing what he's doing on the bench. Money and soup are obstacles, but only obstacles.

I think we win in Seattle, unless we beat ourselves. The Seahawks don't match up well against the Redskins, especially if weather takes the edge off their passing game.

And, as of now, there is absolutely no reason to think any other NFC team has a better shot at the Superbowl.

It's gonna be fun to watch this unfold!

Posted by: jvwright | January 2, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

So, Nate, what exactly is your status for this weekend? Is it still a no, or is it back to maybe now?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Or party only.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I sincerely doubt Brunell is in the equation. I'd bet dollars to donuts that he retires after the season is over.

I think TC stays in DC as JC's backup and mentor. Who is #3, or even what they're looking for as far as profile for that QB, is beyond me.

That's my guess, so put me down for that in the pool :-)

(flashback...thinking back to the misery of the Receiver, The pool...what a tale of two seasons, huh?)

Posted by: PDiddy | January 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

>>> "It's gonna be fun to watch this unfold!"

And nerve-wracking...
And stomach-churning...

:-)

Posted by: PDiddy | January 2, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

>>> "So, to quote Eric Clapton: Let It Rain."

And, to quote Pacman Jones: "Make it Rain"

:-)

Posted by: PDiddy | January 2, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

And, to quote Axl Rose, "November Rain".

Posted by: PDiddy | January 2, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

And, to quote Milli Vanilli, "Blame it on the Rain".

Posted by: PDiddy | January 2, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

And, to quote Prince, "Purple Rain".

Posted by: PDiddy | January 2, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

And to quote that weird internet kid, "Chocolate Rain".

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 2, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Can somebody tell me what the big deal is about Sean Taylor???? It's called Karma people. You do bad things...bad things happen to you. Sean was a punk....and he treated most people like crap and acted like some thugged out pimp on and off the field. (what the hell kind of person spits in another player's face??!?!?!?) Maybe if he wasn't so much of a jerk...he'd still be alive. I don't mind that your team wears the # 21 on your helmets....but why is the entire league acting like Sean was some great guy who contributed so much to society? I'm not saying it's not sad...because it is...it's a tragedy....but many others have been killed and haven't gotten half the recognition that Sean has. Just don't get it. And no...."playing for Sean" is not going to help in the game Saturday. Qwest Field is going to blow all the Skins out of their element....so Sean will be the last thing on their minds

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

doh, that's my cue.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Give me an I!

Give me a T!

Give me an A!

Let's have a huge, collective ITA on this clown, yes?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

wsumichael,
Well....(nevermind)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 2, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

And to quote Chris Larry:

F WSUmichael
F the Rain
F the Seahawks
F Seattle

Posted by: tafka | January 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Who is this jackass WSUmic... Oh Whatever, it DOESNT matter what your NAME is!!! Wow, what a great observation on #21 you made. I am sure when you were watching the battle for the apple or whatever the hell you and the "huskies" play for at 3-9 apiece! You came up with that 10 pounds of monkey crap in a 5 pound bag! And I will take the power of #21 the MEAST on my teams side over that coffee drinkin, fish catching wine and cheese "12th" man you got out there. You said it in your own post KARMA. If youuu smeeelll what the CLUB.... 320 is cooking!

Posted by: csquaredskins | January 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Trying to remind myself to ITA

Posted by: jm220 | January 2, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Injury report just in from Seattle: The "hypothetical" 12th man of Seattle was just concussed by the spirit of #21 and will be OUT for the game....

Posted by: csquaredskins | January 2, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Just checking the news archives for Seahawks-associated thugs (present and former):

Ken Hamlin: Got his skull cracked at a club while acting like a thug.

Jerramy Stevens: More a punk and thug wannabe, starting in his UW days and carrying over to his Seahawk days.

Warren Moon: How many drunk driving convictions is he up to?

Wasn't there a drunk-driving running back from the Seahawks who killed someone a few years ago?

I'm sure I missed a few more. And compared to SeanTaylor? All of these Seahawk clowns were nobodies! Just like the rest of the Seahawks.

Sean Taylor? The best that ever was.

The Seahawks? Perennial losers.

(Oh, and are you losers still crying over the Super Bowl of two years ago when the Steelers kicked your asses? Don't worry - you will soon have new losing memories to cry over.)

Finally, while checking the joke and humor pages of various Seattle web sites, I found the following riddle:

Q: What do you call someone who is too stupid to be admitted to the University of Washington?

A; A WSU student.

Have a nice day, Mr. Latte.

Posted by: tafka | January 2, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

so I guess Mr. Mark Rypien of your beloved Redskins didn't come from WSU?? LOL, what an idiotic statement. All you guys do is tal...that all you can do. Also, I don't remember the SuperBowl as an ass kicking...LOL...who did the Hawks beat on their way to the Superbowl?? Again, your pathetic Redskins.....I'll see all you losers back on here after the game Saturday....deal?? My bet is 99% of you won't be on here....after another crushing defeat by our Hawks. Enjoy the rest of the playoffs on TV. Only the scoreboard will shut you up....and it's just days away. Can't wait. Sean Taylor represented your team the right way....a punk who had to find trouble since there's nothing to do in D.C. Prepare for the beat down headed your way....Saturday at 1:30 pst.....oh wait....nevermind....est for you guys 4:30. Hope you can get your bedtime extended to watch the beating. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

This is me I-ing the TA.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Or I-ing the A, I suppose. Such as.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, let's see - what's the difference between Mark Rypien and WSUmichael?

Mark Rypien: super-talented football player, former Redskin, Super Bowl MVP for the Redskins.

WSUmichael: all-around loser.

That pretty much says it all.

Posted by: tafka | January 2, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

tafka, you're not I-ing TA.

ITA! It's fun, and contains 0g Trans Fats!

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

LOL, you dis WSU, you dis a Redskin "legend"....what an idiot. Like I said....I'll be here after the game....but I'm sure none of you will have the balls to show up after the massive beat down. I'll be here suckas....don't be so bitter about '05....it was just a game LOL

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

tafka, you're not I-ing TA.

ITA! It's fun, and contains 0g Trans Fats!

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Woopsy. I double-posted. Loseable Type was doing its thang.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Chris Paul really have too much time on his hands. Man I am in tears over here listening to his Skins songs.

Posted by: jm220 | January 2, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Verse 2
Come on Skins lets go!
Antwan Randle El their oh!
We gon' pass it off to Chris Cooley
He gonna pull it down for a score
Detroit think they hot but they not
They some bull
When they see Marcus Washington come like the
Incredible Hulk!
Watcha gonna do? (Watcha gonna do?)
Pray! he ain't coming for you!
Nope Detroit can't win against us
So don't hope to win against us
Dallas thinks they can win against us
Man that there's ridiculous


Chorus
Washington that's how we roll
Watch us Burgundy and Gold
Watch us crank that on Detroit
That Clinton Portis Oh!!!
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy
Washington that's how we roll
Watch us Burgundy and Gold
Watch us crank that on Detroit
That Clinton Portis Oh!!!
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy
Now FedEx you!
Crank that Redskin boy

LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | January 2, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

wsumikey,

Of course you'll be here after the game.

You possess cyber-courage, a real valuable commodity.

Here's a piece of advice, you self-loathing human zero: Until your team wins something significant (try a World Championship for starters) you should shut your head abut what they're "going to do" this post-season.

Good luck on Saturday.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

I know ITA is the prudent thing to do. But wsWHO has given me an idea. More of a compliment. To cHris Larry, stumped, jm220, Nate, PDiddy, Lisa, and all those that come here all the time. I have to compliment the dedication to the team this blog has. See, this WSU guy made me realize something. If Seattle loses he will most assuredly not be on this blog Sat. He won't be anywhere, worrying about that team. However, you guys will be here win or lose. If we lose the blog will get ugly, infighting and such. If we win, Oh my God, if we win, Then its WE WANT DALLAS. The compliment is to if we lose. Because the focus turns to the draft. Yep, while this blog has created some friendships, it is always centered around The Washington Redskins. So come on Saturday WSU, these folks will most assuredly be here.
Club 320

Posted by: csquaredskins | January 2, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

WSU works in the cafeteria at WSU. His mother told me last night!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

I have the utmost respect for Seattle.

Sure, Curt Warner isn't what he used to be, but the Redskins still have to shut down Dave Krieg.

And as for the head coach, I think Craig Stadler has done a fine job with the players he has out there.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I just watched CP's interview on Redskins.com from 12/27. A reporter said something about him being the first RB to both throw a TD pass and take a sack in the same game. Clinton said that when they ran the second halfback option, the coaches said that if the pass wasn't there, to either go down or throw it away. He said he knew he wasn't going to throw it away, because it would hurt his passer rating. :)

Funny stuff.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

I believe WSU may be Ryan Leaf. He sounds bitter. Hail Skins

Posted by: scottnimetz | January 2, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Red Lobster
Cincinnati Reds
Red-tailed [Sea] hawk
after the REDskins get finished with the SeaHawks on Saturday!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 2, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of CP, if you haven't seen it, you have to check out this photo from Sunday's game (give it a sec for the Flash to load):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2007/12/30/GA2007123003158.html?sid=ST2007123100037

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

how about the Texas Tech Red Raiders?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 2, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, someone help me out here, Didn't Moses and the Israelites cross over the "Red" Sea on dry ground or something like that?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 2, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

wsumichael - your posts smell like my finger.

Posted by: dirtysanchez | January 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I remember when I was a kid the NY Knicks basketball coach was a guy named Red Holzman.
Not sure that is spelled correctly, but I definitely remember Red.

I thought it was neat Red Auerbach [who of course had already retired from coaching] and Red Holzman.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 2, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

To: Mrs Redskin....what have you ever won? Do you have a SuperBowl ring? Did you have something to do with the Skins winning a ring decades ago? Nope, didn't think so.....so stop acting like you're anymore than a fan. Oh, and by the way, I apologize for not being in the 60 and older age bracket where wins in the 60's and 70's actually meant something. I live in the present day. What does present day = ??? Well, Hawks dominating the Redskins for one....and Saturday will be carrying on that domination. Our young franchise made the Super Bowl just 2 years ago....what have the Redskins done since 1992?!?!?!? LOL, yep, that's what I thought....NOTHING....and they won't be doing anything, anytime soon. Get out the Kleenex and rope Saturday. Wipe your tears before you hang yourself. LOL Come to think of it, I would bet most "fans" on here are closet Ravens fans that jumped off that bandwagon. LOL, I'll be here Saturday, you count on that....and I'll have a response for each and every one of you, don't you worry. PS. LOL, I love this Collins guy you have at QB. Never proven anything when the pressure is really on...no playoff experience...and you think he's coming into Qwest to continue his lucky streak??? His center won't even be able to hear his snap counts. You are all fools....it's so much fun to watch and listen to....so keep all this hype going....it's hilarious. I actually subscribed to your regional sports net the other day, so I could watch all your douche bag broadcasters talk up the Redskins and their "chance" at beating the Hawks. Talk about entertainment. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

WSUMike has a point. we haven't won anything since 1992. Its been pretty rough the last 15 years without any Superbowl trophies to brag about...

Tell me WSUMike, since your Hawks are so wonderful, how is your SB trophy doing? in fact you have one Superbowl appearance in your whole existance. That's really great!

Tell you what, let's throw the past out the window and see what has hapenned in the last month... Woops that doesnt work for you either. Lets look at our respective divisions. We have 3 play off teams you have one and the rest are below .500

Its OK to get all geeked up about your team, but the truth is in the pit of your stomach you are scared that your one dimensional team will be smacked around Saturday.

Good luck with that shmuck...

Posted by: Papken28 | January 2, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Sea-Hawks,
Black-Hawks,
Atlanta Hawks.

What do they all have in common?

They all suck.

Posted by: Papken28 | January 2, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

To: Mrs Redskin....what have you ever won? Do you have a SuperBowl ring? Did you have something to do with the Skins winning a ring decades ago? Nope, didn't think so.....so stop acting like you're anymore than a fan.

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 09:30 PM

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Go back and read my post and tell me where you see the word "we" or I" won a Super Bowl.

You are not only delusional about your team, you're a frigging marginally retarded fan as well. In the future, keep these three words in mind: Read For Content.

Now, having said all that, my original statement stands, pal: In the whole miserable existence of that Seattle franchise, you have no Super Bowl wins. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Not in the past, not in the long ago past, and not in recent history.

Until you get one, keep flapping your gums about what a powerhouse team you have there.

If nothing else, it's good for a chuckle or two.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

What did the Seattle native say to the Pillsbury Doughboy?


Nice tan.

Posted by: Papken28 | January 2, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the Seattle Seahawks and Cheerios?

Cheerios belongs in a bowl.

Posted by: Papken28 | January 2, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

PS: I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that should the Redskins win Saturday, wsumikey -despite repeated assurances - will not fulfill his commitment to return to this blog.

Not under that name, anyway.

:)

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 2, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Say, 4-12, how long are you going to keep that moniker?

I admire you not running away from your prediction, but some might say it calls you prognostication abilities into question.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Cheerios belongs in a bowl.

I smell oats.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

haha...good job putting wsumichael in his place.

Is there anything we can do to make Friday a Redskin day? It would be great if everyone would wear Redskins gear or Red to work that day.

Go Skins!!!

Posted by: redskinlaker34 | January 2, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

interesting article on a former hard-hitting Redskin last year:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2007-01-31-wilber-marshall_x.htm

Posted by: Riggins | January 2, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Breaking News...

The NFL Competition Committee has just announced that beginning with the 2008 season, the current NFC West teams of Phoenix, St. Louis, and San Francisco will each be replaced on a rolling basis with football teams from the Pac 10, in order to provide stiffer competition to division opponent Seattle, as well as to the remaining teams in the league.

Reached for comment, Seattle Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren stated, "I think it's a completely unfair move by the league. The competition committee has no appreciation of how hard this team has scrapped and fought to achieve a 10-6 record against the weakest schedule in the NFL. Anyone who doesn't think there's competition here didn't have to play the Rams and the 49ers twice. Those guys wore pads and everything."

An anonymous source close to Holmgren, however, revealed that the Seahawks coach was secretly alarmed that the upstart Arizona Cardinals managed a .500 record of 8-8 this season. The source revealed that the Seahawks have been privately petitioning league officials for some time to replace the other three teams in their division with two orphanages and a convent.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 2, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Mrs Redskin....you don't say "I" or "we" but you refer to me as "you" That makes a lot of sense. Where the hell did you go to school? or did you even go to school at all?...somewhere near or in D.C.? Makes sense. Learn how to read and write before "flapping your gums" Keep living and referring to the past like losers always do, and keep ignoring your pathetic current status....and watch closely as you get your heads beat in (YET AGAIN BY THE HAWKS) on Saturday. Come talk tough after the game big man....or should I say "fat" man. Try a salad once in a while. Until then....keep stroking it...and living it up in the D.C. area. Don't be jealous of the Pacific Northwest and all we have here. Just try and enjoy your filthy, smoggy, crime ridden town, and duck during the drive-by shootings. Anyone on the east coast with any intelligence lives in New York or Florida....not stuck halfway in between in scumville....LOL. Your town is pure filth, and full of scummy welfair ridden dropouts who mooch off the government. Get some class....hell, get a real job...then come talk to me. This BEATDOWN of the Skinnies is gonna be so F'ing sweet. Let's make a date....how about we face off after the game??? HMMM??? HUH????? yeah, that's what I thought. You got nothin' SCOREBOARD!! PS. I think I'll go start work on my "Sean Who????" banner You Redskin "fans" are the biggest group of losers in the NFL. Can't wait until Saturday. Mrs. you're mine...I own you

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

wow Seahawks fan(s?) are extremely lame trash talkers.........

That Wilbur Marshall article depressed me, I loved that dude...the two worst moves Charlie Casserly ever made was chasing off Wilbur and Gary Clark...

WSUmicael, the story will be told on the feild my man!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 2, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I think I'll go start work on my "Sean Who????" banner You Redskin "fans" are the biggest group of losers in the NFL. Can't wait until Saturday. Mrs. you're mine...I own you

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 11:18 PM


Did you learn to be so classless at WSU, or was it inbred? What brings you to the Redskins Insider blog anyway? Surely there's a group of people who are blogging about the Seahawks somewhere, unless you're just attention-starved and prefer gradeschool taunting--knowing that the majority here would love to join Mrs Redskin in "facing off" with you after the game.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

when you guys have the balls to come to Qwest and face the 12th man...you go right ahead and let me and any other Hawks fan know. We eat trash fans like you for dinner. Chris....you are right. All the talking will be done on the field. Then we'll see what you have to say about your JV team after they are taken off the field on stretchers

Posted by: wsumichael | January 2, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

We'll be there wusmichael. I'll take our 12th man over yours everyday of the week and twice this saturday.

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Come to Seattle for the game then. Meet me in the endzone with my collegues....if you want the true experience. I'll save my future posts until after the win. Enjoy your little blogging in here talking about your trash team, and trash city. I'll be here after the game....gonna be sweet. Enjoy the beatdown. I'm out

Posted by: wsumichael | January 3, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

There goes one classy dude.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 3, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

A little reminder, folks.

"Ignore the A$$clown" or "ITA" was heavily used for a while by a lot of us Redskins Insider regulars, to admonish one another not to let ourselves be baited into a pointless conversation with someone who is just coming up here to cause trouble, pick a fight, whatever.

However, "ITA" was abused by some of us, including me, getting thrown around at the first sign of any slight provocation or perceived threat to our good time up here. It was part of an oppressive atmosphere which was not very much fun. So it fell out of use.

This fellow wsumichael came up here today to pick a fight, plain and simple. His first post at 6:54pm above is a reminder of what ITA was all about. That comment is utterly despicable, but at the same time not worthy of any response whatsoever! His post at 12:12am seems to indicate that now he wants to challenge someone to a real fight. That is patently absurd.

Blog peeps: ignore this person, please. Do not respond to anything he posts, no matter how egregious. That's what ignoring the a$$clown is all about. There is no upside to addressing this malevolent person, none whatsoever. Eventually he'll get bored of this and go away, just as all his predecessors have.

ITA.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 3, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Aw shucks, it wouldn't be a true 'Skins game without the appearance of a truly classless fan of the opponents - but Nate truly hits the head right on the nail...thanks

Posted by: johndinhouston | January 3, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Well, that sucks, I didn't mean to kill the blog.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Standing over the heaving corpus with a scimitar dripping blood is no real evidence of having killed the blog.

Although it's not particularly exculpatory, either.

Posted by: daggar | January 3, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

The story about Wilber is, indeed, sad. #58 was definitely one of my favorite players as a kid and it's a travesty that the NFL doesn't take care of the veteran players who made the league what it is today.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 3, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 3, 2008 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Since you know I cant ITA;

WSU, check the Census website. Check what three counties around DC have the highest per capita income over the last ten years. (p.s, just a little geography lesson, MD and VA surround DC, and DC only has a small number or actual residents living inside its borders, so most peeps live in VA and MD who are fans. Places you couldnt dream to afford living in)

OK so that shoots down your absurd point about welfare.

Crime, sure its bad, but peeps who can live and thrive in this city should be far from called weak or afraid. If we really live with such strife, what would a college kid from the PAC NW scare us for.

Read back on the blog, there will be plenty of fans in the area for the game. Go meet them if you'd like. Stop calling people to meet you, if your a big man, go meet them. Take the initiative since it was that same initiative to come here and pick a fight. Lets see if you have the stones to do so in person.

And the whole uneducated rant, hmm you seem to have that covered all on your own with your suppositions about a dead man who died protecting his family from thugs.

Smart peeps moving to NY or FLA to avoid what?? Taylor was killed in FLA.

Anyway, I digress, my point is you are stupid, unintelligent, a moron... do you understand any of these words?

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 3, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Kind of funny. 3 weeks ago, there was no way we could go in to the Meadowlands and expect to win with the swirling winds and the ferocious Jints "D" and a backup QB. Two weeks ago, there was no way we could go to the Metrodome with a backup QB, the noise so loud you can't call audibles, and stop the NFL's best rushing attack. Last week, the only way we could win is if Dallas rested its starters. Now, there's no way we can go into another loud stadium and face another one-dimensional offense, this time one dependent on the passing game. Forget the fact that Seattle hasn't played anybody legit since October. The real question is, how the hell did they only post a 10-6 record playing those patsies???

I think the folks in Seattle are in for a rude awakening Saturday. They keep thinking this is 2005 and their team is unstoppable. I cannot wait for Saturday afternoon.

Posted by: Riggins | January 3, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who doesn't think there's competition here didn't have to play the Rams and the 49ers twice. Those guys wore pads and everything."

No one gaev freak any props for this? "Those guys wore pads and everything." Is the best thing I have ever read.

P.S what dominance is this hawks guy talking about? I'm pretty sure the redskins have won 3 of the last 4 meetings.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

The only "Stiff" competition the Hawks have faced all year is what goes in and out of their backsides.

The Hawks are half the team they were in 2005 and even then they were slightly above avg.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

What teams have they beat with a winning record, and they also only got one more win than us with the easiest scedule in the nfl, us with the second hardest. I dont know what that dude was talking about but his team isnt that good.

Posted by: SAK2 | January 3, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Dolphins coach Cam Cameron has been fired, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports, as the team continues its shakeup following last week's hiring of Bill Parcells as head of football operations.

Posted by: jm220 | January 3, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, sams3.

At least someone liked it.

*sniff*

Posted by: freakzilla | January 3, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

That was a foregone conclusion....

Any guesses on next coach?

Will parcells poach a Bellicheck guy...what branch of the Tuna Tree will the next guy come from?

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Nate. ITA. This is one of those guys with no reason/rationale for their rants. You wont be able to "convince" this troll of anything, no matter how much sense you make. Let him think he and the rest of the "12th man" are actually part of the team, especially when they lose.

Posted by: dlhaze | January 3, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

"Terrell Owens took a step in his recovery from a high ankle sprain Wednesday, shedding his walking boot and putting a shoe on his left foot for the first time since suffering the injury Dec. 22 against Carolina. Owens still isn't well enough to practice and, according to coach Wade Phillips, probably won't be until next Thursday or Friday. Owens has started jogging and is expected to be available for the Cowboys' divisional playoff game Jan. 13. "
High ankle sprains take 4-6 weeks to recover from, yet TO can reover in only three weeks. Amazing! I don't buy this for one second... TO does not have a high ankle sprain, he just wants to come off as a warrior (like he did in Philly a few years back) when he plays next week. I loathe this man!

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | January 3, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I smell OATS!

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Wk 1: Buccaneers 6 @ Seahawks 20
Wk 2: Seahawks 20 @ Cardinals 23
Wk 3: Bengals 21 @ Seahawks 24
Wk 4: Seahawks 23 @ 49ers 3
Wk 5: Seahawks 0 @ Steelers 21
Wk 6: Saints 28 @ Seahawks 17
Wk 7: Rams 6 @ Seahawks 33
Wk 8: Bye
Wk 9: Seahawks 30 @ Browns 33
Wk 10: 49ers 0 @ Seahawks 24
Wk 11: Bears 23 @ Seahawks 30
Wk 12: Seahawks 24 @ Rams 19
Wk 13: Seahawks 28 @ Eagles 24
Wk 14: Cardinals 21 @ Seahawks 42
Wk 15: Seahawks 10 @ Panthers 13
Wk 16: Ravens 6 @ Seahawks 27
Wk 17: Seahawks 41 @ Falcons 44

someone pleas look at this and tell me the redskins wouldn't have won 14 to 15 games if this was their schedual.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

toddcoat, with Cam gone, so does your prayer for The Todd. wink wink. I tend to agree with you about the fate of Derek Anderson. The conventional wisdom in Cleveland (the Home of Rock and Roll) is that if Anderson holds out for "starter money" (which he deserves), then he will get it, but not from Cleveland. In my mind, he is the best FA QB available heading into the offseason. I'm thinking he has held off on re-signing to test the market (kind of Dockery-like). Browns are stupid not to lock him up. Salary-wise, Quinn won't be making any of his escalators if Anderson continues to be the starter, so it doesn't make a ton of sense. Of course, it could just be that Anderson decided to have a "contract year" (given how Crennel bad mouthed both his #1 and #2 in the preason, Frye and Anderson, respectively).

cL, isn't Haslett in the Tuna Tree?

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Blah blah blah yak yak yak....you are your schedule...ifs and buts candy and nuts...

60 minutes on the turf will settle this score, no need for pissing contest!

Hail!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

On Saturday, the men who are 1-2 in victories among the league's active coaches will be across the field from each other. Joe Gibbs' Redskins will be in Seattle to play Mike Holmgren's Seahawks in the NFC's wild-card playoffs. And sometime after this game, the 59-year-old Holmgren will seek out Gibbs to ask about being a fat slob walrus lookalike ...

Joe Gibbs will more than likely respond "I can't answer that Mike, I care about my body and have atleast an ounce of self respect. Now that you are getting older you should hire Andy Reid to be your stun double, no one can tell the difference."

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Haslett...not sure if he worked for Parcells?

My gut is Overblown Tuna tags a first timer on the youngish side....

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

cL, also, that Ryan scion got canned as the Oakland defensive coordinator, so I could see the Fins taking a look at that long-haired chubby pirate. [would be a good move in my mind ... their offense is too pathetic ... they need a miracle hire for OC, maybe a former O-line coach.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking Tony Sparano from Dallas will be the new HC in Miami. Along that same line of thinking, maybe he'll hire Uncle Junior away from the Skins.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 3, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

There are coaches I dislike, and coaches I respect (same with QBs). Both Holmgren and Reid are classy dudes. That said, Reid has a much looser tummy line than Holmgren. Neither of those guys have anything on the college coaches who border on unhealthy like Fridge or that guy from Kansas (or maybe its Missouri ... or maybe both). I'd take a swipe at my least favorite belly, but the WaPo would delete this post like they did the last time I had at him. [Hint, hint: He is on Tuna's Tree and, in an interview on Sixty Minutes, he said he tried to speak up at a Tuna meeting in NE, and Tuna asked how the F he was and told him to shut up. Given how sucky he's been in South Bend, maybe Tuna will invite him down to Miami for the little known "Dom Deloise Rule" ... the analog to the Rooney Rule for the belly-impaired.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I don't see Parcells on this tree, based on where Haslett played and coached:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Haslett#Coaching_Tree

I always pronounce is "HAZE-lett" like Spurrier did when he was mocking the guy's work habits. Ha ha. Joke was on us, as it turned out.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

This morning, Big Media has been saying that Nolan's job is safe in San Francisco. I'm thinking Mike Singletary will be the top Rooney Rule candidate and will be able to hold out for the sweetest of the HC vacancies. I think he would be a great coach.

Seems weird to me that Ron Rivera still sits down in San D as a position coach (after being D coordinator to the Bears going to the SB).

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

sween, amazing... I was about to make a Dom DeLuise reference the other day but thought better of it. (Something about the Cannonball Run-style trip I'm making up to Seattle. Hey, wasn't Joey T in Cannonball Run 2?)

http://www.domdeluise.com/

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

dcsween, I heard yesterday that Ryan has already been hired by the Jets.

Posted by: Lisa | January 3, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Nate, discretion may be the better part of valor, but the chance for a chuckle is the better part of ... not valor.

Lisa, thx. THIS is why you invaluable to my football knowledgebase (esp. Skins kb) ... its that radio on your desk/computer/car/wherever it is. thx again.

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Why do Iowans want to caucus so badly? What did we ever do to them?

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 3, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

He kind of looks like Big Mikey.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

maybe someone can explain this to me... Why is Iowa such a big deal for the Democratic race. every eletion everything is about Iowa, I don't get it...

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Iowans be all like zombies at the mall.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

ESPN.com yesterday "reported" that Ryan was going to the Jets. So, who knows.

"Did you learn to be so classless at WSU, or was it inbred?"

This was really the only applicable response to somebody so out of touch with reality.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Iowa is only important b/c its first...sets pecking order based on actual results rather than politcal chatter. A good showing turns into more fund raising, front runner status going into upcoming primaries etc...

The media and the "horserace" makes it more important than it actually is.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I think it's all George McGovern's fault. Rock out with your caucus out!

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 3, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

maybe someone can explain this to me... Why is Iowa such a big deal for the Democratic race. every eletion everything is about Iowa, I don't get it...

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:36 AM

Because a lot of people, for whatever reason, involuntarily gravitate to a perceived front-runner. Whoever comes out as the winner is going to immediately get a bump and is going to be given credibility in the minds of many people who prefer to not think. This among other reasons, of course. New Hampshire is HUGE, though.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Thank you chrislarry

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Jasno has been holding out on us. The Skins site reports that the Skins released OT Calvin Armstrong from the practice squad and filled the spot with ... you guessed it ... John "Angry Toe" Eubanks. Miracle of modern antibiotics.

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

jspaceman72 thanks bud. I had a feeling it had to be with it being first but i wasn't sure.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

The seahawks have a special acoustically designed stadium to help them be louder, yet they still cant win a superbowl.

PATHETIC!

Posted by: dave197391 | January 3, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Paul Allen should put some of that energy into schooling his don't-know-what-it-feels-like-to-be-a-winner fanbase on how to talk smack without looking like a bitter 22-year old who is beginning to fear he will never know the touch of a woman.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Yo triple Sams, here is a bit more detailed account of what me and J-Space said:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/02/AR2008010203353.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: chrislarry | January 3, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

My brother and I have been Skins fans since late George Allen days. He lives in Austin, TX now and I'm in Miami. We email back and forth about the Skins and are on the phone pretty much every game.

I tend to be the pessimist, having been disappointed so many times over the years in post-Gibbs 1.0 era. My brother is the Charlie Borwn optimist who is sure that this time Lucy won't snatch the football away at the last second and that this time he's going to kick that darn ball.

Then there's another friend who is my brother's age--Montgomery Blair class of '84 (I'm class of '86). We used to watch games over at his house. We always played a quick game of football at half-time. He's even more pessimistic than me when it comes to the Redsksins (and most other things too, come to think of it). But neither of us gave the Skins any chance of making the playoffs. Me after the Eagles loss, and definitely after the Bills loss. Neil, I don't know, probably back in the pre-season.

But my ever-optimistic brother is on a huge high right now. Hell, I am too. Why not, it's my birthday Jan. 6 and all I want is a Skins victory on the 5th.

Anyway, here's an email my brother just sent, which, aside from some obligatory self-back-patting, offers an interesting perspective for those who tend to see the glass half-full.

Cheers, and GO SKINS!!!!!!

The future is so bright I gotta wear Burgundy and Gold lenses‏
From: Carl Philpott
Sent: Thu 1/03/08 3:38 PM

I wrote this prior to the season... "Seems our skins may not be so bad, that is if a series or quarter at a time can be interpretable. Defense looks mean and hungry. Offense is the wild card; they are too impossible to read. My prediction is based upon the defense being for real and the offense actually being good because Campbell is a year better and he continues his trend of 2006 of no bad turnovers. They will end up in the 10-6 to 12-4 range, win the division and Gibbs goes 3-0 in the playoffs for a career record of 20-6." I think I was dead on, IF Campbell could have delivered last minute Gnats, Dallas, TB (twice!). That adds up to 12-4 and beats out Sowboys for the division.

You all are player-haters but I called the playoffs many games back (even tabbed Gnats game as the turning point). In an organizational way I think their prospects are better because of circumstances this year. Campbell gets the pro reps and a year on the bench will season his defense reading abilities. Also, those 3 playoff wins are more realistic than if they won the division because, in the right hands, this offense is sick and indefensible.

Against a zone and Collins ability to see multiple openings in them all we need are receivers who can recognize an opening in the zone and turn around and catch a ball. The only way to stop this offense is to have the talent to play man on EACH receiver. That is to cover; Moss (speed and hands), Cooley (bulk and brawn), Randel El (cuts and routes), Portis (jukes and open field), and Mcardell-Caldwell-Thrash (veteran experience) Looks like Collins is our man next year and, if Campbell can hold his ego in check, we will be set very well for the future. They have a smart, pro-formed 3rd stringer on the bench in Sam Hollenbach. He is a very capable future backup from Maryland. Collins ability in this offense precludes money needed to upgrade talent on offense as this system is made for older vets at the wideout spot. They would only need to get a young speedster to spell Santana and beef up, with youth!, the O-line. Lots of money left for eliminating salary cap problems or defensive free agents.

My predictions for the playoffs; Redskins & Bucs win and then Jags and Bolts. Skins take Boys and GB freezes Bucs in a defensive gem.NE overwhelms Jags. Colts and Bolts too close to call (I am leaning towards Rivers f'ing it up). Skins vs. Pack, we take back! Pats take Ponies in a uber-classic matchup, then win it all because we had a bye week and are doubled over in score.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | January 3, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I am so, so sad that Ryan is gone from the Raiders.

I thought that Kiffin would get the axe, and in his stead the Raiders were going to be coached by an actual pirate, but I was denied.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Toddcoat,

Cameron out in Miami?

Posted by: RickyBobby | January 3, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

RB we all want to know when the big dinner is.

Posted by: jm220 | January 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Maybe there needs to be a Rooney Rule for pirate-themed teams. Call it the Blackbeard Rule. Every pirate-themed team has to interview at least one actual pirate for any head coaching vacancy.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

freak, who in the NFL besides that Ryan boy in Oakland (Rex? Rob?) is a pirate? NFL definitely needs more pirates.

Speaking of pirates, anyone see Letterman's beard last night? Looked like he's been through more bad weather on a motorcycle than Greg Allman.

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

He has taken more wangs to the face than him too.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Insert Dickey Betts joke here.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 3, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I think the Pats can (will) be beaten by EITHER the Jags or the Clots. I do not think the Chargers could beat the Pats. Of the AFC teams who could provide the toughest matchup for the Skins, however, I'd say the toughest would be the Chargers. I think Grilliams will have been able to adjust to the Pats and Brady (less sure about The Todd and the Pats' D).

Jason will be the starter next year. The Todd's late season blossom definitely will help Jason, esp. film off the receivers at full strength and full speed, plus watching how quickly The Todd does his progressions.

Its silly to think The Todd will start over Jason, or that he should. The Todd is the man, don't misunderstand me. He is everything we could want, but even with The Owner's previously very short time horizon for success, Jason is still the now and the future. Its like thinking Fabini is the new guy in the middle b/c he has had a great late season run.

That said. F thinking beyond Saturday. We got us a rumble to rassle!

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

freak, who in the NFL besides that Ryan boy in Oakland (Rex? Rob?) is a pirate? NFL definitely needs more pirates.

sween, the Gruden scowl is definitely pirate-like. And he coaches the Bucs. Maybe he could lop off a leg for realism

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 3, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Kyle Turley could get in to coaching. He'd have to start out as a first mate, but he could have a promising future as a Pirate coach.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 3, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

This guy just finished his third season, but by his name, he could have a promising future as a pirate coach. http://www.nfl.com/players/corylekkerkerker/profile?id=LEK362714

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse


Question? Why doesn't the team leave as early as possible (like Thursday night or at dawn Friday) for the long distance flight and change in time zone? Some "expert" interviewed on local Ch. 4 said it's best for the team to get to Seattle 2 days earlier to get acclimated to the change.

Posted by: heisted547 | January 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I think he'd do better in a Peter Griffin look alike contest.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 3, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 3, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

heisted547 I'm not sure but maybe they want to be home to practice and rest as much as possible?

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Original_etrod nicley done.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

You know, I keep seeing clips of Seattle players playing around, Hasselbeck with that Mustache, laughing and having a good time.

And all I see from the skins is seriousness.

I guess they are just happy to get to the playoffs.

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 3, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I have to wonder if jetlag has any effect whatsoever on them. I used to fly cross-country pretty regularly for work and to visit family and it was never really a big deal for me...and I actually had to spend time in the new time zone, and get up early and so forth. I doubt it plays much of a role, especially going east to west. West to east might be a different thing.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Playoff song by Chris Paul, its nice...

http://redskins.torresa.com/audio/PaulC/2007Round_1(WC)_at_Seattle_Stronger.mp3


Club 320

Posted by: csquaredskins | January 3, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Not as full-on messy looking as Robert Gallery (arrrrrr), but could make it work, and has a piratey name too.
http://www.nfl.com/players/loganmankins/profile?id=MAN347391

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

heisted547, they traveled earlier to Seattle in 2005 and you see where that got them. Gibbs & the coaches said they wanted to keep their schedule as close to usual as possible and this is why they are traveling later.

Zebraskins, the Skins players were interviewed yesterday and they said they are having a lot of fun and that the atmosphere (although focused) is loose in the locker room.

Posted by: Lisa | January 3, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I agree that going west to east would be harder if you arrived the evening before, especially if you were playing at 1:30, because that would be 10:30 AM for your internal clock.

Take the same scenario, but make it east to west, and now the 1:30 game is like a 4:30 game for your body.

I can't speak for our guys, especially since they're exceptional physical specimens, but I know that if I'm working out, my best time is late afternoon/early evening. That's when I'm most "up."

I imagine that there's also the problem of practicing in the opponent's city. Finding a venue to do a walkthrough is probably not difficult (you could use the hotel ballroom and never leave the premises), but ensuring that no one is Belicheating you while you do it has got to be a concern.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 3, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Belicombover - he is like 3 hairs away from being Chris Burman. I don't think the hair CB combs over is even from his head. It looks like he is combing over his beard it starts from so far down.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Joe Avezzano always struck me as vaguely piratic. Or just bizarre.

Weird... found a pic of him with a Skins fan.

http://www.comicmonsters.com/Jan06Chiller/michael_berryman.jpg

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 3, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Jasno, bored at work and CAN'T WAIT for Saturday. Give us something!

Posted by: tmanatos | January 3, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Mid week holiday, come back on Wed. Skins playing Sat. Work? I just cant, seriously...

Posted by: csquaredskins | January 3, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

jasno doin discussion rite now

Posted by: cmecyclist | January 3, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Seattle: Go ahead. Look past us to Dallas. Really.

Jason La Canfora: Who you talking to dude?
Contrary to media reports, I am really not dressing for this game. Disregard those depth charts.

I have no stake in this one.


But I can assure you nobody in this locker room is talking Dallas. They know how big Saturday's game is.

Posted by: jm220 | January 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Y'know what...I don't want to hear anymore about how they earned home field. They are practically defaulted home field advantage in the first round with the lousy schedule they play. THAT is not quite fair. Maybe with the clear advantage that Seattle gets with the noise in their stadium, it might be worth looking into a formula that weighs strength of schedule when figuring who gets home field advantage?

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

BCDTW.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

There's no point in complaining about the schedule. The 'Skins had 6 games to take care of business and earn home field. They didn't. These are the cards they dealt themselves. Now they'll play this hand and we'll see where it goes.

It's going to be a great, great game.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

jspaceman72, that is totally unreasonable! You should be able to skirt by with a free playoff pass each year because you are in a division with teams that can't even put a full team on the field. It would be totally unfair to Seattle to expect them to play real teams. Imagine if they were in the NFC East of the AFC South. I wonder if they would win three games???? It's amazing that the NFC West never gets a wild card isn't it?? They even get to play eachother who all suck and still can't muster up enough wins. They can't beat anyone outside their own division. Keep giving them homefield baby! Keep letting them pump in fake noise! Keep letting them get away with free homefield! Forget logic, they won a division! Impressive, really....
The managed to scrape by the bottom of the barrel Eagles though so maybe they are that good!

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

The noise in Seattle (indeed, any stadium) preys on undisciplined teams. This is the playoffs. If your team is undisciplined at this point, you don't deserve to move on.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 3, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if "Mr." Snyder is doing anything special for the team for the flight out? I remember in 2005 he chartered an entire United Airlines 747, had food from Morton's on board, bought out the entire Marriot Courtyard down by South Lake Union here in Seattle, etc. I thought that was a fun story to read about.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Is redskins.com video choppy for anyone else using Mac OS X Leopard? It's driving me nuts.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

***OFFICIAL PDX R.I. VIEWING LOCATION***

While most of the Pac NW Skins fans are already connected, I just wanted to put this invite out there for anyone who might be lurking on this board, in the Pac NW, and wanted to be amongst fellow Skins fans on Saturday.

For those of us in Portland, who aren't braving the elements and seeing the game in person, we will be doing the next best thing by watching it in HD, on a giant movie screen, in a historic dome.

Seriously, what more could you ask for?

Here's the details:

Portland Redskins Viewing Party
Saturday, 1/5 @ 1-?

McMennamins St. Johns Pub
8203 N Ivanhoe St
Portland, OR 97203
http://www.mcmenamins.com/index.php?loc=51&id=190

Hope to see you there!

HAIL!

Posted by: StumptownChris | January 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Illegal Leopard?

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't do illegal software. Fully licensed.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 3, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone know if "Mr." Snyder is doing anything special for the team for the flight out?"

Pleasure Plane!

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if Cyn City is traveling out for the game; or is she holding down the fort back in NW?

Posted by: StumptownChris | January 3, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, TheCindy is staying in DC. It's breaking our hearts.

I wonder if Fred Smoot is allowed on the Pleasure Plane...

Posted by: PDiddy | January 3, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Looking for other Boston area Skins fans! I'd like to find some other people to watch the game with. I'll need to be in Waltham shortly after the game but really want to watch with other fans.

Please send me a line: BCBarney at hotmail dot com
Once a couple of us get plans, I'll post it here in case anyone else wants to join.

Posted by: BCBarney | January 3, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I will be holding down the fort here Saturday, BMGO with you peeps. Wish I could make the Sweet -- er, Suite -- 410 scene Friday night. I want you all to go to Boren Avenue and take a group photo in front of the street sign.

Posted by: TheCindy | January 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

PDiddy, I didn't mean illegal software. It's a joke from a Dave Chappelle skit. He talks about how Mexicans love illegal items, like stolen things, plus they like things that are leapard print. So he keeps saying Illegal Leaparddddddddd to try and entice a guy to buy something from him.

Posted by: sams3 | January 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Like the good book says, "Let He who is without sin throweth the first rock"..... and I shalt smoketh it.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | January 3, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Diddy - I run Leopard myself and have never had any problems with redksins.cm video. Sorry bro.

Posted by: mile.high | January 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

holy crap. I'm turning into Jasno!

Posted by: mile.high | January 3, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

bada bing, bada bang,

(er, I mean, beep, beep)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, StumptownChris, Nate, et. al. i just got off the phone with my son and he's giving serious consideration to the St John's McMenamin's for the game on Saturday.
I, m' damn self, will be there in full regalia, which will include the SuperBowl Ring T Shirt which I bought in Maryland after we trashed Buffalo in the Hankydome.
I love the feeling of adrenaline that gets more and more intense until i feel like i'm going to explode during those last 3 minutes of commercials leading up to the kickoff.
HTTR!

Posted by: RedskinWillie | January 3, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

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