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Injury Report

QB Jason Campbell (knee) is out.

TE Todd Yoder (knee) is probable.

That's it for the Skins. FB Mike Sellers not even listed on the report after suffering a mild concussion Sunday night and he is ready to go.

Coach Joe said that if C Casey Rabach got hurt he would use Rick DeMulling to replace him in-game. Except for the guys on IR, and JC, the Skins expect to have a full comliment of players.

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 28, 2007; 1:47 PM ET
 
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Comments

First?

Posted by: kohastings | December 28, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Nice....Full Team. I'm hoping no injuries happen and we get the win.

Posted by: anthonyfkelly | December 28, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys may say they are coming to play hard against a rival trying to gain a playoff spot but I think the first time the Skin's punch 'em in the nose, they'll go paws up.

Posted by: ap.apple | December 28, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Hope Sellers really is okay -- the dude is a beast, but even beasts need to think about life after fubball.

I miss seeing Randy Thomas on the injury report.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I was scared serious when Sellers went down.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow, "full comliment" is that rare two-fer, a typo AND a misspelling. Kudos.

Jasno going strong, running downhill in week seventeen. Love it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Our man is showing a little love in the last few posts too.

Insane.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

My first thought upon reading this..."what's a cornilment?"

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

It's come to the point where I don't even notice the errors.

Posted by: sams3 | December 28, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm not comlaining, of course.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I didn't even notice. I think my iq is going down - if that's possible - from reading this blog.

Posted by: puttinforbird | December 28, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm a substance over style guy, so I couldn't care less, but I draw the line at making up words.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

My first thought upon reading this..."what's a cornilment?"

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 02:05 PM

I believe its a very old ship, used in the Civil War.

Jasno For Pulitzer.

Posted by: trink | December 28, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm a quantity AND quality guy, jspaceman. All about the jibba jabba.

Out my office window update (slow day up here): yesterday there was no snow in Portland, just cold rain, so I was smacking myself in the back of the head for believing the hysterical forecast of 3-7 inches.

But anyway, this morning I got to watch a new bridge span float from a dock downriver to its new home. Watching this thing -- 365 feet long and 77 feet tall, and jacked up something like 50 feet on a giant barge -- sail down the river was pretty doggone cool. A little slice of Portland history. We take our bridges very seriously round here in Bridgetown.

Anyway, happy Friday, all.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I believe in German it means a "whale's vagina"

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Portland is such a cute city. It's adorable. Like a puppy.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, I believe the translation was lost hundreds of years ago.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Great beer, great pot and the Nike store. What's not to like?

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I know, I know, goofy to get all geeked out over a new bridge, and an interesting if not that uncommon engineering feat (floating a bridge span to its new home). But I like this kind of thing. And apparently a lot of Portland feels the same way. Again, we do like our bridges.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I used to work on the 38th floor of a building on the Embarcadero in SF. I watched four of those giant port cranes come through under the Oakland bridge a few years ago. Actually came in early to watch it. I think I might out-dork you.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Here's the funniest thing about Portland...people there are very friendly. Now, Seattle is a very nice, but not very friendly town. Portland people seem genuinely friendly, in the same way that midwestern folks are genuinely warm and hospitable. Personally, I like that. After growing up on the east coast, there's no way I'd go back to that hardened, grizzled attitude.

But the friendliness has interesting side effects. Whenever I meet some random person, be it a shopkeeper or whomever, I always ask, "Hi, how are you?"

Most normal people say, "Fine, thanks."

Portland people actually tell you. For quite some time. As if you're the first person to talk to them all day. When you're behind this phenomenon in line at a grocery store or wherever, you want to break out your cold, hard Noo Yawkerness and smack them all in the face.

But no sales tax? Sign me up!

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Port cranes?! Haw haw!!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

No sales tax (OR) versus no state income tax (WA) is a real doozie, innit?

WHat were we talking about? HAIL?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Well, no income tax is great. I won't trade that for anything.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Nate,
Is that span the one that will replace the Sellwood Bridge?

My son had learned all the bridges before he was four years old. I took him on a tour and snapped a Polaroid of him in front of each (not as easy as it sounds).

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

NateinthePDX when you say geeked out do you mean made you laugh.

Posted by: sams3 | December 28, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Right? They had to do it at low tide and still only had 22 inches to spare. Pretty crazy stuff.

http://www.portofoakland.com/globals/images/img_cran2.jpg

I think I see myself in the window over there.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I like lamp.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full condiment of players.

-Strawberry Shortcake

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I admit (to this anonymous blog only!) that I am impressed by the engineering feat that is this bridge replacement. That's pretty cool, as it turns out.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

You guys would love Virgnia. We have managed to pull the trifecta of sales tax, income tax and sucky bridges. (Although the natural bridge is pretty damn cool)

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

If you are going to use short hand slang for words why choose "kno?" Isn't hitting the w key easy a small price to pay for other to respect you?

Do they even bother making it for the xbox anymore? It's insane to still even own one of those.

Posted by: sams3 | December 28, 2007 01:49 PM


did it ever occur to u that i dont care if u respect me or not...hahaha...i have better things in my life to worry about than whether or not u respect me...anyways i was still able to communicate what i was trying to say...and wut u guys call slang...or laziness...i call efficiency...y waste the extra effort and energy when i can communicate the same point by not...

Posted by: mimic | December 28, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay, jspaceman, THAT is awesome. This bridge span had something like 15 feet of clearance under one of the two bridges it had to pass under. Which is a huge margin of error relative to 22 inches. ("That's what she said!")

Stumped, downriver, not upriver... it's the new Sauvie Island Bridge. Sellwood is still in the planning/begging for money stage.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full basement of players.

-- Hannibal Lechter

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full ligament of players.

- Rocky McIntosh and Carlos Rogers

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Or a full parliament of playaz.

-Winston Churchill

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full ornament of players.

- Santa Claus

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full liniment of players.

-Bubba Tyer

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full lodgement of players.

- Norman Bates

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full sediment of players.

-The Earth's Crust

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full torment of players.

- This blog

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full pay-the-rent of players.

--Mr. Roper

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full regiment of players

- Leonidas

Posted by: argh | December 28, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full armament of players.

- Donald Rumsfeld

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full cast of players

- Andrew Lloyd Webber

Posted by: argh | December 28, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full merriment of players.

-New Year's Eve

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full accident of players.

- Jamie Lynn Spears

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a half-full comliment of players.

--Optimist

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full orchestra of players

- Amadeus

Posted by: argh | December 28, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a cement head as a player.

-Iron Mike Sellers

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full emolument of players.

- Gene Upshaw

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full sediment of players.

-The Earth's Crust

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 02:51 PM

Best one

I was hoping for a full accident of players.

- Jamie Lynn Spears

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 02:54 PM

Close second

Posted by: sams3 | December 28, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a real president.

-The U.S.A.

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a decent player

- Carrie Underwood

I was hoping for a leftover player

- Jessica Simpson

Posted by: argh | December 28, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full house of players.

-- Dave Coulier

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Ditto, pulldownclaw! Ditto!!!

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full monument of players.

- Gutzon Borglum

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for less undergarments.

-Thongs/Panties

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full undergarment of players.

-June Allyson

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I think I have out-dorkamented myself.

-Me

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

In case I forget, happy birthday tomorrow to Shaun SwissHam, 26 years young.

Here's to you kicking a whole mess of extra points on Sunday night, dude.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

If anyone is interested in playing intermediate-level Minesweeper for fun-size bags of Skittles, let me know.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

If anyone is interested in playing intermediate-level Minesweeper for fun-size bags of Skittles, let me know.

Freakzilla - Today's MVP

Posted by: sams3 | December 28, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full nucular strategery of players.

-- W

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Yup, freakzilla wins the Star Trek Original Series DVD set.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I know its bad to wish injury on players - but who would love to see Romo out for the playoffs? Dallas is retarded to think we're not going to try and stick his d*ck in the dirt.....

WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!
WE WANT DALLAS!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | December 28, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full atonement of players.

Abbie Hoffman

Posted by: dstout3423 | December 28, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full foment of players.

- Al Sharpton

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full annulment of players.

- Pam Anderson

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

We were hoping for a full containment of players.

-Nuclear Regulatory Commission

Posted by: tafka | December 28, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full regalement of players.

-Tatiana the Tiger

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for a full endorsement of players.

-Peyton Manning

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Or a full parliament of playaz.

-Winston Churchill

Posted by: pulldownclaw | December 28, 2007 02:48 PM

Full parliament of players? Winston Churchill

Full parliament of playaz? George Clinton

Posted by: tafka | December 28, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Nate and jspaceman - do I out-geek both of you when I say that I like to watch videos of controlled building demos? Like when they demo casinos or arenas to put up new casinos and shopping centers (as was the case with the old Cap Centre)? Love watching those. So cool to see those buildings fall so perfectly and (relatively) neatly. I am in awe of the power and precision necessary to pull that off.

Actually, the Cap Centre demo was bittersweet for me. I remember going there for a concert in 1994, and some years later, we had to park there (after it had been closed for some time) to go to a Redskins game. At that point it was spooky, like walking past a corpse - even in broad daylight. So to watch a fixture of my life since childhood literally go up in a puff of smoke and dust was a little emotional. I can't imagine how I will feel when they finally demo RFK.

Oh, and I used to watch the trains go by when I was in college. Big freight trains. The train tracks ran through campus and alongside some of the commuter lots, and I would sit in my car and watch the trains go by. Dorf would know what I'm talking about - the Burg is crisscrossed with train tracks.

Posted by: jaradel | December 28, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

And a really full parliament of playaz?

-Funkadelic

Posted by: tafka | December 28, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for an imprisonment of playaz.

-Fido

Posted by: tafka | December 28, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"I can't imagine how I will feel when they finally demo RFK."

Is it scheduled for demolition? That will be a dark day.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Jasno For Pulitzer.

Posted by: trink | December 28, 2007 02:16 PM

He's actually been nominated for the Pull It Surprise award.

Posted by: cmecyclist | December 28, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm quite sure that if Jason was winning the award, the committee would engrave the award as "Putziler".

Posted by: tafka | December 28, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else but me completely turned off by the mere thought of McDonald's breakfast burritos?

I wonder if McDonald's in China sells bacon 'n egg rolls.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

jaradel, I was going to try and say something about the duality of man, the creative and the destructive forces in each of us, but I was really boring myself with that one.

Somewhat relevant to what, assuming we TCB on Sunday, awaits the Shehawks, metaphorically speaking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLzTKQ4-qU

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Freakzilla -

The mere thought of anything from MacDonald's for breakfast turns me off.

On the other hand, Bacon-and-Egg Rolls sounds interesting. Build it and they will come.

Posted by: tafka | December 28, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

We haven't really heard anything for a while about the future of RFK, vis-a-vis the idea that was floated (by whom, I can't remember, but maybe it was last fall?) of building a new Skins stadium there. But that future will almost definitely include demolition, right? Love the place, but you gotta admit at this point it's nothing more than a lovable dump.

Yeah, we need a brand new stadium, within the freakin' District of Columbia, walking distance to Metro. A bouncing lower level would be a nice bonus. And the Skins will "need" a new stadium in the next decade anyway. Snyder will get it done.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see the Grateful Dead in 1991? The lower level was not just bouncing, but was bouncing in rhythm during Franklin's Tower. That was something.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

2400 East Capitol Street, S.E

Future site of Sean Taylor Memorial Stadium. (chills)

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

This just in 5'1 27 lbs. Bob Sanders just raped the Colts for 40 million dollars.

Posted by: sams3 | December 28, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Nate - The stadium will be demolished after the next season (or 2) of DC United Football.

Snyder and the DC Council are secretly working on a plan to bring back the 'Skins, possibly at the RFK behind Fenty's back. Boswell once reported this. Look for the new Stadium to be built around 2015-2016.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 28, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't the highest paid safety in the NFL be the best one? Does being the most overratted one get you that much?

The Colts score points that's why they win. Put Bob Sanders on a team that relies on the Defense making big plays and see how he does.

Posted by: sams3 | December 28, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Future site of Sean Taylor Memorial Stadium. (chills)

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 28, 2007 04:36 PM

Definately got a little chill on that one. Unfortunately unless there is a fortune 500 called sean taylor, that we've never heard of, it's just a pipe dream. But I love it!

Posted by: puttinforbird | December 28, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Nate - THAT WAS TOTALLY WICKED!!!!

There was a link on the page to the Three Rivers Stadium demo, which was also very cool.

Re: the 'Hawks - playoff implosion is a definite possibility with them... but if we do beat them, guess who we face the following week? You got it - Dallas. As the bottom seed, we would play Dallas in their house for the divisional playoff. And you KNOW they'll bring it hard, too, especially if/when we pull out the win this weekend.

What irony. Our reward for beating Dallas this week is that (assuming we beat Seattle in the wild-card), we get to play Dallas again two weeks later. Is this a cosmic joke?

Posted by: jaradel | December 28, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I've been out all day...just checking in to make sure you're all behaving (yeah, right) and to see if I have anything to add. I don't...other than to say today's thread is sheer genius. Nice work, dudes.

Posted by: TheCindy | December 28, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

What irony. Our reward for beating Dallas this week is that (assuming we beat Seattle in the wild-card), we get to play Dallas again two weeks later. Is this a cosmic joke?

Posted by: jaradel | December 28, 2007 04:41 PM

This was discussed yesterday. Why are u scared? Have you watched how this team has been in every game they played except for NE. To be the best we got to beat the best. Has 15 years of bad play taken your heart? Man up!!! HTTR

Posted by: roweq | December 28, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

It's no joke. We GET to play dallas again. Who would you rather beat than dallas? 2x in three weeks would/will be beautiful!

Posted by: puttinforbird | December 28, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Cinderella.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Cindy!

I'm with roweq on this one: Bring it on.

Let's beat Dallas this Sunday, then start thinking about getting some playoff payback against the Shehawks the following weekend.

Everything else that has happened to this team this season has been tragic or absurd or otherwise preposterous; why not a playoff run?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

...And I think we all understand that the Dallas team we will face on Sunday is by no means the team we would putatively face two weeks hence.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

No sales tax (OR) versus no state income tax (WA) is a real doozie, innit?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 02:33 PM


Ah, but for major purchases, Portland is but a two hour drive from Olympia.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone think of a more unlikely playoff finish? Redskins defeat the (say) undefeated Patriots to win the Superbowl!

(dream big)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

This was discussed yesterday. Why are u scared? Have you watched how this team has been in every game they played except for NE. To be the best we got to beat the best. Has 15 years of bad play taken your heart? Man up!!! HTTR

Posted by: roweq | December 28, 2007 04:50 PM

The history of the Redskins-Cowboys rivalry is replete with non sequitur moments, like two touchdown receptions in the last 2 minutes of the game back in '05 to rally from a 13-0 deficit. But for every improbable win that we have over them, there are at least as many close heartbreaking losses. It doesn't matter how good we are or bad they are, or vice versa, with the Redskins and Cowboys it really is Any Given Sunday. Therefore, beating them this week will not guarantee that we won't get our collective arses handed to us in two weeks.

There is a lot of interesting trivia about the rivalry at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys-Redskins_rivalry . One interesting tidbit - the two times we have played them in the postseason in the history of the two franchises, we have won both games.

Posted by: jaradel | December 28, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, not only have I dreamed that big, but I also would not be shocked were it to happen.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The whole full service gas station thing in Oregon is annoying.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

freakzilla,
Not only would I be shocked, I would lose control of all my bodily functions and lie prostrate on floor in a filthy quivering mass.

Jspace,
Full service anything is a good thing.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Weird...I was reading this site, and it says the 'Skins were once in the AFC...

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/teams.nsf/histories/redskins

Has to be a typo, right?

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

>>> "The whole full service gas station thing in Oregon is annoying."

Just another excuse for Oregonians to engage you in unnecessary chit chat, uh, jibba jabba.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm out. See you here tomorrow night. I'll be working with Pats-Gints playing.

Posted by: TheCindy | December 28, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Right on Cinderella.
Can't give me enough points to take the Giants.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Hit em straight, Cindy!

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I find the full service thing more an inconvenience than a convenience. It takes longer to get gas.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

What's the rush?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse


Weird...I was reading this site, and it says the 'Skins were once in the AFC...

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/teams.nsf/histories/redskins

Has to be a typo, right?

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 05:14 PM


P-
It looks like for those three years the NFL did AFC NFC rather then East West conferences.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 28, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Jaradel

I am not saying if we win on Sunday we will win in the playoffs. I am fully aware of the history. I do not need Wiki to give me a version of it. I personally go back to 1969 with Vince Lombardi. A lot of today's Cowboy fans were once Redskins fans. They switched because the Redskins broke their hearts many times over the years. What I am saying is if we get there I like our chances.

Posted by: roweq | December 28, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Uhh... once upon a time we had a coach named Dick Todd? Did this come up during Toddapalooza? And if not, why not?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

"A lot of today's Cowboy fans were once Redskins fans."

I've never met one of these people, and if I encountered one I think I'd have an impulse to deliver to them a swift kick to the junk.

Posted by: jspaceman72 | December 28, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, thank toddness:

"and of course, the uncomfortably named
Dick Todd.

Hail to the Todd-skins

Posted by: cej75024 | December 14, 2007 11:35 AM"

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Todd-themed word derivations, how are we doing on the Toddimatum? Has TheCindy left the building yet?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm late on this...but I was actually in a meeting....who schedules a meeting on the last Friday of the month?

I was hoping for a full marry-ment of players.

-Elizabeth Taylor

Posted by: dchandl3 | December 28, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone think of a more unlikely playoff finish? Redskins defeat the (say) undefeated Patriots to win the Superbowl!

(dream big)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 05:06 PM

Posted by: roweq | December 28, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

To follow up on that. If that happened we would be the team that capped the last perfect season losing to the dolphins in 72.
How weird would that be?

Posted by: roweq | December 28, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, roweq, no need to get worked up. I get it, you're a longtime fan. I am too - except I only go back to 1983, since I was 6 1/2 when we won our first Super Bowl. But to answer your original question of a few posts ago, I'm scared because I've seen too many games between these franchises to be at all comfortable with how a divisional playoff game, this year, will turn out. Do I like our chances? Sure. I don't think the Cowboys are as good as their record says they are, just like I know that the Redskins aren't as bad as our record says we are (and we're not all that bad, really). Would I put real money on the game? Not on your life. I'll root for the Skins till I am hoarse, but (apologies to FOX Sports) you can't script Redskins-Cowboys. That's all I'm saying.

We're on the same side here. HTTR! That's all that matters.

Posted by: jaradel | December 28, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

This just in: Tony Romo is a pootie-head.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I really wish everyone would just take one flippin' game at a time. We have to win this game before thinking about anything else....and winning is not going to be easy.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 28, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm already looking ahead to 'Skins vs. Titans in the Super Bowl. I take things one Super Bowl at a time.

It is almost that magical time here on the left coast. Bars open in 46 minutes!

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Jaradel

Did mean to come across as worked up. We are on the same page. Go skins.

Lisa

You are missing the point. I fully understand that this is not going to be a cakewalk. I am fully aware that none of this is going to matter if we do not take care of business on Sunday. I am just saying IF we get in watch out.

Posted by: roweq | December 28, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, you really are dreaming if you think it will be a Skins/Titans Super Bowl....that will never happen.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 28, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I meant "did Not mean"

Posted by: roweq | December 28, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Over lunch today, my friend bet me one crisp U.S. American dollar that I couldn't get a date with a 21 year old when I went out tonight. He is most likely correct on this, but whatever...

...it got me thinking. A 21 year old was born in 1987. She likely has no idea who Darrell Green is. She probably doesn't know a world without MP3s. She has probably never used the yellow pages. Her car has probably always had a rear brake light and automatic windows.

Yeah, I don't stand a chance on this one. I should start ironing my U.S. American one dollar bill.

New dating rules:

1. Must be female, must have a registerable pulse, and must not have had a gender change operation
2. Must not have bartender sniffles
3. Must know who Darrell Green is

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, I'm deadly serious.

Anyone up for a field trip to the San Francisco zoo?

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, if there's one thing that I know from Denzel Washington movies, it's to remember the Titans.

Also that Creasy's art is death, and he's about to paint his masterpiece.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Okay, maybe Lisa's right. Not 'Skins / Titans. Perhaps 'Skins / Browns? I like my chances on that one.

If you Crazy Glue one of those delicious Bugels crackers on a My Little Pony, do you then have a My Little Unicorn?

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

If you Crazy Glue one of those delicious Bugels crackers on a My Little Pony, do you then have a My Little Unicorn?

You're deep, Diddy.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Other things I've learned from Denzel Washington movies:

- Drug dealers aren't evil, they're just misunderstood businessmen who care about family just like the rest of us.
- It's pretty easy to get brainwashed into killing a presidential candidate
- As a cop, sometimes you need to cross the line

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, the Browns probably will not make the playoffs. They have played so well this season and deserve to get in but Indy will not be playing their starters so the Titans will win and knock the Browns out.

However,I don't think the Titans will win a playoff game.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 28, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Wait, Diddy, I thought you were going steady? Now it's back to the pickup game?

Awfully difficult to keep up with you. ("That's what she said!")

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, I agree that it's been a heck of a season for the Brownies, and I'd love to see them get in, but if you can't beat the Bengals to lock up a playoff spot... c'mon.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

3. Must know who Darrell Green is

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 06:20 PM

In Seattly you might want to change that to Steve Largent or Jim Zorn. Just sayin..

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | December 28, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

More Wisdom from Denzel:

- As a cop, sometimes you need to cross the line
- As a bodyguard, sometimes you need to cross the line
- As a soldier, sometimes you need to cross the line
- As a psychiatrist, sometimes you need to cross the line
- As a lawyer, sometimes you need to cross the line
- As a drug dealer, sometimes you need to cross the line

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

mtnskinsfan, this may be my problem, now that I think about it.

Nate, I am seeing someone. She's a 'Skins fan, she's smarter than me, and she's awesome. And, most importantly, she's finally back in town. I assure you, I will find a way to screw this up royally. That is my MO.

The bet is for fun and games only, and really only for conversation purposes. My friends love to watch me crash and burn in a bar. It is amusing in the same way that I find Stephen King novels an appropriate distraction from the banalities of banal literature.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

As a defensive back sometimes you need to back the line.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

As Johnny Cash, sometimes you have to walk the line.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I was going to bet Lisa that the Browns and 'Skins would play in the Super Bowl, but then I remembered that she's about to lose a bet to Ricky Bobby and I didn't want to pile on.

What, exactly, is that bet anyhow? I missed that one...

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

As Lou Groza, sometimes you need to toe the line.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

As William F. Buckley, sometimes you have to be on firing line.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I'm trying to remember the bet myself but I think I'm taking Ricky Bobby to dinner (or lunch) if we make the playoffs.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 28, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, you should take him to Applebee's!

I just won a bet on the Vikings/'Skins game, and I'm making the loser take me to Gary Danko in San Francisco. Hehehehe :-)

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

As Jimmy the Greek, sometimes you need to be on the Vegas line.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

As Ricky Bobby, sometimes you need to be on the racing line.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

As Jerry Jones, sometimes you need to be on the sideline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

As Chris Hansen, sometimes you need to be on Dateline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Say, Nate, do you remember those old "You Make the Call" commercials from the 80s?

Weren't those great, and don't you wish they would bring them back?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

As Jasno La Canfora, sometimes you need to be on the byline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

As Toto, sometimes you need to hold the line.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

As Dr. Drew, sometimes you need to be on Loveline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

How much fun is this? Being in the national conversation for positive things is well deserved. This team, regardless, are a team that will go down in Redskins history. I cannot wait until game time. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: mjwies11 | December 28, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

As P Diddy, sometimes you need to watch your waistline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

As a Linebacker without a dryer, sometimes you need to clothesline.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

As Nicholas Cage, sometimes you need to cross the hairline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

As Britney Spears, sometimes you need to ignore your hemline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

As Tom Clancy, sometimes you need to dispense with the plotline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Someone PLEASE tell me that Aikman/Buck will not be calling our game and that Pam Oliver will not be on the sidelines.....please!

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 28, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

As SMACK, you spend most of the game in the beer line.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

As it's 8 minutes until the bar opens, sometimes you need to go offline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Superbowl XLII

Destiny vs Dynasty

Posted by: brianlee720 | December 28, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

As a craps player (and a porn star), sometimes you need to bet on the come line.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

As Bill Cowher, sometimes you worry about your jawline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm not worthy, Diddy. Good luck with the $1. Use your best line!

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

As Triumph, sometimes you've got to lay it on the line.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 28, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, national game, Fox's biggest game of the week, you do the math.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

As a Cowboys, I once had to root for Steve Beuerlein.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

USA Today confirms; Buck, Aikman, Oliver.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

As Marion Barry, sometimes you need to do a line or walk a line.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 28, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Well, that's just great (being sarcastic here). A double whammy. Now we have to deal not only with our 4:15 game jinx but the Aikman/Buck/Oliver jinx as well.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 28, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

San Andreans might want to keep an eye on that fault line.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Slightly off topic here, but I'll be in Greensboro, NC this Sunday. Any suggestions where to watch the game?

Posted by: mgordon | December 28, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Aikman is an idiot. He'll just trash the Cowboys all day like what he usually does. And why does he always stick that extra what in there? I think he picked it up from Norv Turner.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Collins, deliver thy fair 'Skins to thee playoffs, advance to the title game, Super Bowl, Disneyworld and beyond, and there shalt be inspirational Hollywood film made 'bout ye by the end of the Noughts. In a year of heartbreaking losses, and devastating loss, you have the chance to not only to be the greatest story in sports, to join the Gilded Halls of Eternal Redskins Folklore (& free beers in any bar for life), but to help heal this town. God bless you, brother, much is on your shoulders, but this is the chance you've been preparing in obscurity for the last decade, and the greatest story you, and your ancestors will to tell for generations. Seize it. Dig it. Play it. Carpe and diem it. You can do it, we have total faith in you. HAIL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: glaytham | December 28, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

mgordon, I don't see any Greensboro joints listed here:
http://www.thehogs.net/html/funzone/PlacesToWatch.php

And I don't recall if we have any blog peeps down thataway. But the good news is, with a Fox national broadcast, I would guess this game will be easy to find at any sports bar. Maybe do some sniffing around online and turn up a few likely places. (Wonder if you'll encounter a few Skins fans, since NC used to be "our territory.") Good luck, and HTTR!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

What it...the,

Skins beat Dallas at home to advance to the playoffs...

Skins beat Seattle to continue the run...

Skins go back to Dallas and beat them at home...like they should have done earlier in the season...

Skins go to Green Bay...and beat the Pack to go back to the Super Bowl...

Skins in the Super Bowl against the Pats....Skins defeat the Pats to end the "Perfect Season", and get even for being on the losing end of the last "Perfect Season"....think back to the Dolphins...who was the last team they beat that year...remember???

What if...hmmmmmm!

Posted by: mike128 | December 28, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Golly, I wish sfskin were up here, so we could make off-colour jokes about Beaver Fever hitting San Francisco...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

mike, I like the cut of your jib, dude.

One of the things I like best is that, if we beat Dallas and get in, in every single game the talking heads will pooh-pooh our chances. We seem to have developed an oddly confident, backs-against-the-wall, put-it-all-on-the-line mode. Which is awfully fun to watch, but it's perplexing after the way the season started and then bottomed out.

ANyway, every week people will be talking about our burgundy and gold carriage turning into a pumpkin. Good for them. I will welcome it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I love the enthusiasm!
Joe perpetuates the underdog mentality and creates the us against the world attitude better than anybody. I hate that all the talking heads are picking the skins, but those morons are just bandwagon jumpers anyways. Cris Carter got me especially fired up with his gibbs should only coach 2 more games comment.
To quote the spoon song: "If you have no fear of the underdog, you will not survive"
Hail!

Posted by: puttinforbird | December 28, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Was there a presser today? Did anybody put a bee in Joe's bonnet?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 28, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Beaver Fever hitting San Francisco...

Sounds like the perfect storm to me.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 28, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: puttinforbird | December 28, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Good god, did a beaver escape from their zoo as well?

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

In San Francisco, I was hoping for a whole torrent of Beavers, and sometimes they'll even take the hardline.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Beaver was the ticket for Kevin Federline.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Hello Again Everyone,
There have been a few questions I've read:
1) Yes, we would play at Seattle
2) Yes we would then play at Dallas

NFL ensures highest seed always plays lowest seed in playoff rounds, in case of upsets.

Hey, we put ourselves in this spot losing 4 straight, remember?


Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 28, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Aikman, Buck, Oliver are going to be in DC on Sunday.
Which NFC game means more this Sunday?
Of course they are going to be in DC.

Don Meredith was horrible as an announcer, always touting the Cowboys and having fun at the other team's expense.

Aikman is a much better announcer and genuninely does substantially better job than Meredith ever did.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 28, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Question for everyone.
Todd Collins is a FA.
How much $$ can Todd Collins now demand?
Collins has shown we need him; Brunell will be gone...
How will this cost us even more $ on the cap next year?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 28, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Ray,
Maybe Aikman was forced to watch clips of Meredith, his eyes kept open with clamps and images of violence and classical music interspersed. But he has gone way overboard.

Tomorrow may be an exception because we'll be scrubbing anyway, but he slams the Boys more that what he usually does other teams.

I don't think Collins can demand much. You're going right back to Campbell, or so you would have him believe.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 28, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

"Todd Collins is our team's future" is not going to ring through the halls of NFL front offices this offseason. He is a horse for a particularly narrow course; the one where Al Saunders is the jockey.
He's getting paid pretty well; if you were hoping for some sort of discount this time around, he's probably blown that out of the water. But it'd be stupid to break up the band.

Typical caveat applies -- "You can't fix stupid"...

Posted by: daggar | December 28, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Collins' freedom on the market will be dictated by how many teams see him as a stop-gap starter. He can't get in a much better position as a backup than what he has in DC.

My guess on the "stop-gap starter" question? Zero. Collins will stay in DC.

Everyone knows Brunell's career is done after this year. No need to belabor it. Remember, he led the team to the playoffs two years ago. Let's be thankful for that and wish him luck. I am still very impressed at his class and dignity throughout all of this. For a career starter (for the most part) to accept a demotion from #1 all the way to #3...well, I imagine that would be hard for any professional athlete to swallow.

St. Joe loves his veteran backups, from Doug Williams to Jeff Rutledge to Mark Brunell, he's always had them lingering around. Except in 1982. Bob Holly was a kid, backing up the veteran Theismann. No veteran backup QB on that roster. It wasn't until 1984 that St. Joe found Jim Hart lying around to backup Theismann.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 28, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Lest we forget the (unstated) obvious, Brunell is a banged-up, warhorse veteran.

Collins has been riding the pine, and is in "mint condition" physically.

Posted by: Xlnt | December 28, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Agreed with you guys that if this coaching staff remains intact -- which now seems virtually certain, right? -- the QB depth chart will probably be Campbell, Collins, and Clipboardholder (TBD).

Adios, Mark, and gracias.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Whoa...looking down the road to week 2 of the playoffs - very aggressive. I hope the players don't even know who they would play in the first round at this point, let alone the 2nd....

See you guys at FedEx - with the loss of 21 and everything else this might be the biggest game for the franchise since the '92 Super Bowl.

HAIL

Posted by: lmgaffney | December 29, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm not quite so certain that Brunell is gone. His cap number isn't a deal breaker, and this year has shown that you really do have to think hard about who you're third-stringer is; Carolina's "Plan T for Testaverde" is testament enough.
If they/he decide it's over, then who do you get? We already have someone pretty young, whoever you bring in will get few reps and will likely be a huge dropoff from JC/TC. Maybe if you can draft a 16-year old and give him ten years to digest the playbook?

Posted by: daggar | December 29, 2007 12:46 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Todd goes anywhere in the offseason. We'll probably give him a deserved pay raise on merit. Realistically, in addition to Todd's current pay, we could give him a good chunk of what we're paying Mark right now, and give the rest of Mark's money to a young clipboard holder.

As for Todd's value on the market, not much, in my mind. He's extremely valuable to us because he knows Al's offense better than probably everyone on the planet but Al, and also because he's quite healthy. Plug him into a new system and, even though he's certainly a very bright guy, his value drops significantly.

Besides, as an aging journeyman QB, he'd be horning in on Vinny Testaverde's territory, and if TV and movies have taught me anything, it's that horning in on the territory of guys named Vinny is a bad idea.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 29, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Hold up, did J-Reid just steal this story idea from up here?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122802481.html

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Hold up, did J-Reid just steal this story idea from up here?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 01:05 AM
_______________________________

My theory is that J-Reid is one of the posters up here who floats trial balloons for story ideas!

Posted by: Xlnt | December 29, 2007 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Question for everyone.
Todd Collins is a FA.
How much $$ can Todd Collins now demand?
Collins has shown we need him; Brunell will be gone...
How will this cost us even more $ on the cap next year?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 28, 2007 10:55 PM

Todd Collins will not be in demand next season. He will stay with the Redskins for at the most, his current salary ($1.5M). His agent may be able to include some escalaters if he ends up starting for a long period, but that's the most he'll get. He'll be 38 next year and played in the same system for almost 10 years.


Hold up, did J-Reid just steal this story idea from up here?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 01:05 AM
_______________________________

My theory is that J-Reid is one of the posters up here who floats trial balloons for story ideas!

Posted by: Xlnt | December 29, 2007 01:25 AM

It was actually a waste of space article for the above reasons.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 29, 2007 2:50 AM | Report abuse

Center Andre Gurode (knee) and nose tackle Jay Ratliff (knee) are inactive along with Owens (ankle) and Newman (knee). Owens has not practiced this week as Dallas wants to rest his sprained ankle before its first playoff game.



Read this article at:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7612082

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 29, 2007 2:58 AM | Report abuse

4th, good to see you, brother.

I am sending my happiest, most positive thoughts in your direction, my very best wishes to you and your family. I hope for a Redskins win on Sunday to perhaps offer you all a brief distraction, a bit of cheer. Know that you are in my thoughts, and the thoughts of many of your friends from the blog.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 3:01 AM | Report abuse

ESPN Steals Sports Writers From Post - 12/28 - ESPN is busy poaching many prominent sportswriters from print outlets, including the Washington Post. "My counteroffer usually comes down to asking them what kind of cake they want at their goodbye party," said Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, assistant managing editor for sports at Post, which has lost three writers to ESPN in the last year and a half - including Howard Bryant. "The (salary) numbers they throw around are out of reach," Garcia-Ruiz tells the NY Times.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/business/media/24sportswriters.html?_r=2&ref=media&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 29, 2007 3:03 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Nate!

I plan on doing a guest blog and hope JLaC post it on Saturday morning. I have never been much of an inspirational speaker/writer, but I feel the sense to become one.

It was 'my turn' to feed the baby and now I am wide awake! How's your new baby doing?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 29, 2007 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Our new little one is doing great, thanks. Fat (gaining weight like gangbusters) and happy and a lot of fun. He is a joy. And the most amazing thing of all, he sleeps most of the night! For a little guy all of five weeks old, that is something... though of course he could shift into a new pattern any time.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Related to the sports journo brain drain/talent poaching/staff turnover issue cited in the article you linked to above, this year-end piece by the Post's Ombudsperson has some stats on cutbacks across the board

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122802303.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

I'd like to think we blog peeps are part of the Post's transformation into a company which retains its old media leadership -- goodness knows we need its grade-A reportage now as much as ever -- while becoming fluent in the new media world. I don't want to imagine the Post going out of business, but the market forces causing the talent drain are indicative of big shifts underway... Cap'n Obvious, I know, I know...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 3:20 AM | Report abuse

Ach, sorry, suddenly feeling very sleepy... I'm out.

Again, 4th, my very best wishes.

And to all a good night.

Hail.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 3:22 AM | Report abuse

If I could only be so lucky! I'm glad for you.

I also meant to say Sunday, not Saturday....

Frank Herzog: Movie Star - 12/26 - Yes, that's DC TV and radio veteran Frank Herzog (right) in the new "National Treasure 2: Book Of Secrets" movie. The current WTOP news anchor, who used to be the radio voice of the Redskins and a sports anchor at Channels 9 and 7, appears with star Nicolas Cage, who is talking to the president, played by Bruce Greenwood, at his birthday party at Mount Vernon. As they are looking at a map at George Washington's home, Herzog walks up and says: "Happy Birthday, Mr. President," and the president says: "Thanks, Frank." Also, Herzog played a dance contest judge in 2006's "Step Up," which was filmed in Baltimore.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 29, 2007 3:44 AM | Report abuse

HAVA vs. Slingbox

Which one is better and why?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 29, 2007 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Lisa,

Shall I order those appetizers?

Posted by: RickyBobby | December 29, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

4th, I rely on a couple of friends who are deep into TV tech for this -- they both like slingbox a lot, were intrigued by HAVA when it first came out, but have been less than impressed since.

Their bottom line right now is that the tech isn't really there yet for HD content -- the bandwidth requirements are right at the edge of what you can do via wireless -- and the amount of finagling to get things set up "just the way you want them" is a PITA.

One of them has been playing around with an AppleTV; it's a rough way to go for him, because apparently you need a Mac to compile all the stuff required to hack the box, but he's still banging away at it, which means to me that the possibilities intrigue him.

Posted by: daggar | December 29, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Thanks to all who responded to my q. last evening regarding Todd Collins salary escalation / demands next season.

Some quick thoughts:
1] No, I am not J Reid. Don't know him, never met him, or conversed via email.

2] Nate, nothing personal... I have enjoyed and plan on enjoying future dialog w/ you on this blog. Thanks for your replying as well!
Nate feels TC will only get his current salary; the addition being bonuses / incentives. However TC's agent already is on the record speaking quite differently in the J Reid article.

3] The fact that J Reid was composing his article on the very day I asked the q. does reveal I asked a legitimate q., and now you know I fear TC's agent will alienate TC and Snyder, Gibbs, Saunders etc. It is my hope Al Saunders will step in and fervently mediate w/ TC and that TC will be back and at a reasonable price for a 37 year old QB.

4] Folks, we all want him back next year don't we? That was a rhetorical q, and thus it goes to show that TC does in fact have much more leverage than we [at this point] are willing to make.

Merry Christmas to all fellow Skins fans.
HTTR!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

"Nate feels TC will only get his current salary; the addition being bonuses / incentives. However TC's agent already is on the record speaking quite differently in the J Reid article.
"

I think that was me not Nate who wrote that. TC's agent is an agent. He is doing his job by shooting for the moon. Remember Scott Boras?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 29, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

4th, integrated WiFi in the HAVA is a huge step up. Setting up a wireless bridge is a terrible experience. Even the Apple Airport Express is a bit obtuse on that topic. Slingbox REALLY needs to integrate WiFi into their box.

Sadly, the HAVA is PC only. The Mac gets no love :-)

Posted by: PDiddy | December 29, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I would guess that the QB lineup next season will be...

1. JC
2. TC
3. SH

Everyone may think I am crazy but I think they should have given Palmers lil' bro more of a look...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | December 29, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Ray, 4th has it right -- that was his comment about the salary.

I plead a willful ignorance of salary matters, taking an "In Snyder We Trust" approach. He'll pay it, whatever it is, and no matter how bad our cap situation appears at any given moment, we'll muddle through somehow.

But Ray, I should say that I absolutely enjoy the dialog with you up here and am very glad you've joined the conversation.

HTTR!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

trailblazer, wasn't LBP awful, every single time he had a chance to show something?

Would he have fared better given more of a look? I dunno. But everybody in Skins world was crazy underwhelmed by the dude, as I recall.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I believe someone said it earlier but with the departure of Brunell that will free up a little over 3 mil.... Give it to Todd he is a veteran that plays smart and knows the playbook. Hate to even say this but what if JC gets injured again next season. With the rotation of QB's in the NFL this year it has never been more apparent that you have to have a solid backup

Posted by: trailblazer658 | December 29, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I just think Palmer may have that intangible QB thing he certainly has the size and arm strength... Don't get me wrong I like Hollenbach but I dont know he never blew me away with his play in college... I have to admit I dont follow the terps like the skins but I saw him play plenty of games and...hell what do I know. I would hate to see Palmer go somewhere else and light it up though

Posted by: trailblazer658 | December 29, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

NFL replay has turned into all Patriots all the time

Posted by: trailblazer658 | December 29, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby, I really wish I could say "start ordering" BUT.....I am really worried that we are going to lose tomorrow and not make the playoffs.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 29, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: squashmo | December 29, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Lisa_R,

I'm very concerned about the game tomorrow as well. But I believe the Skins will come out fired up and focused on the job at hand. I believe we will want it more than the girls and will beat the snot out of them. That said, You just never know which way the ball will bounce...what if TC throws 5 ints and we have a couple of fumbles... I would be shocked and dismayed, however, if we came out flat. We are playing the most important game since the last superbowl.

WE HAVE TO WIN THIS GAME.

cosmofla

Posted by: squashmo | December 29, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

St. Joe has made some questionable decisions this year and at times in judging personnel. But the dude is a Hall of Famer and a winner, and he is not a choker. The season is on the line. I have faith in St. Joe.

(that said, I'll be nervously roaming around my living room tomorrow at 4 ET)...

Posted by: PDiddy | December 29, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Bloggers:

Stop worrying! This will be a very tough game. But we will find a way to win it! This team turned a page after Blackjack's funeral. This is no time to worry; this is a time to go out and dictate our will on the opponent. CP and Santana and Todd aren't curled up in the fetal position and sucking their thumb. They know they're playing as well as anybody in the NFC right now. Dallas ain't New England. See their game against us in Dallas? How about their game at home against Philly? They even struggled against Carolina. They're tough, but so are we dammit!

I don't give a rip if the game's at 4:15, 8:30 or friggin' midnight! We will take the field; we will exercise our will; and we...will...win!!!

Posted by: Soups1 | December 29, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Apart from Sean Taylor, my favorite "Blackjack" is Curtis Manning from "24". My, how I miss that show. In these cold, dark times, I need nonsensical stories about cold, dark times to keep me going.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 29, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Dang Soups 1,

I'm ready to suit up and hit somebody!

Sadly, I'll be pacing nervously like PDiddy.

Maybe you could deliver the pre-game speech

cosmofla

Posted by: squashmo | December 29, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

This game scares the hell out of me. Dallas "nothing to play for". Turn that around and say they can play loose backyard style. Go for it on 4th and 3 and onside kick the opening kickoff and such. Skins need to hit them in the mouth hard and early and make their coaches say, lets duck and cover. I will be at the game. I noticed stub hub only has like 123 tix left. Unfortunately, I think a lot of Cowboy fans will be there. We need to shut them up early, ala 35-7 two years ago...
Club 320

Posted by: csquaredskins | December 29, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes, that's DC TV and radio veteran Frank Herzog (right) in the new "National Treasure 2: Book Of Secrets" movie.

So it WAS him! I always stay for the full credits, and saw "Frank Herzog" listed, but figured that it was a different Frank Herzog. You really don't see him in the movie, just his hand, if I remember correctly. He sort of interrupts the Pres. and Cage for two seconds.

Neat.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 29, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Apart from Sean Taylor, my favorite "Blackjack" is Curtis Manning from "24". My, how I miss that show. In these cold, dark times, I need nonsensical stories about cold, dark times to keep me going.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 29, 2007 01:47 PM


I feel ya, Diddy. I just about cried when Jack shot Curtis last year. Also when Michelle and Tony bit it. I've been watching 24 since the first episode.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 29, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

So, for whom to root this evening?

Had the Jints lost last week, then obviously the Pats. But since that didn't happen, do we root for the Jints to somehow play spoiler? Not that I think the Jints have a prayer as they play with nothing to gain, against a clearly better Pats team playing for history.

But still.

Regardless, we're having the fam-in-law over for salmon tonight, so I won't be watching. I'll just keep the game tracker up on one of my machines and sneak down the hall to my office a couple of times during the evening to check the score.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 29, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Blog killer! Bl-bl-bl-blog killer!

Posted by: freakzilla | December 29, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS F&%@~D UP!!!

from the Wiki -

"Murchison then decided to create his own team, with the support of NFL expansion committee chairman, George Halas. Halas decided to put the proposition of a Dallas franchise before the NFL owners, which needed to have unanimous approval in order to pass. The only owner against the proposal was George Preston Marshall. However, Marshall found out that Murchison owned the rights to Washington's fight song, so a deal was finally struck. If Marshall showed his approval of the Dallas franchise, Murchison would return the song. The Cowboys were then founded and began playing in 1960."

You're fjskin' telling me the Cowboys exist simply because of a damm song! That's #|@&*%! Bummer and a half.

Posted by: cmecyclist | December 29, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

As is my wont when there is a game between two teams I detest, I'm rooting for a scoreless tie tonight between the Jints and Pats. An utter abomination of a game, a miserable slog, simulcast on three networks.

Given that a tie is rather unlikely, and a scoreless tie even more so, I guess I'm rooting for a Pats win. If the Jints win, it will infuriate the Pats, take them to new depths of evil, and all but guarantee them the title. If the Pats win, it seems to me the door will be ever so slightly open for them to be upset in the playoffs. As was the case last year, I think the team for the job is the Colts.

Pats winning the Super Bowl would be "better" than Cowboys winning the SB, but only by a scant margin. Anybody but those two gets my vote.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 29, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

beep beep.

Posted by: TheCindy | December 29, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

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