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Zorn Says Betts, Springs Are Doubtful

Jim Zorn just finished an update on the injuries:

Aside from Jason Campbell, who is getting treatment for a sore groin but is expected to practice Wednesday, RB Ladell Betts (knee) and CB Shawn Springs (calf strain) are very doubtful for Sunday's game in Detroit. (Both are likely to come back after the bye week, according to sources.)

RB Clinton Portis is battered all over and will likely be held out of practice Wednesday, Zorn said.

Guard Pete Kendall's arthritic knees could lead to him resting many Wednesday's as well (Kendall also has an internal health issue to tend to this week, but Zorn said it's "nothing major" and "it shouldn't hold him out at all.")

DT Cornelius Griffin is a serious concern, with his shoulder injury still very painful. He played through it Sunday and fared well, but Zorn said he's hurt, he really is," and he may "demand" that Griffin sit out Sunday.

Defensive end Jason Taylor continues to feel his way back from a calf injury, and Zorn said there was still blood leaking from the injured area after the game. Some stitches remain in the calf from where surgery was performed last month, and Taylor is playing with a pad over the area, but hanot completely healed, Zorn said.

"He's a warrior," Zorn said.

Tight end Todd Yoder was kicked in the hamstring and it's badly bruised, Zorn said, but he is not expected to miss time.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 20, 2008; 1:01 PM ET
 
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Sit out Taylor, Griffen and Springs this weekend. Get Taylor and Griffen rested for the Steelers and get Springs ready for the Cowboys after the bye.

Posted by: Skins1 | October 20, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad injury outcome from yesterday's game. CG is the only concern here.

Posted by: Skins930 | October 20, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

First again

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 20, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

First again

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 20, 2008 1:15 PM

My bad I am back on double secret probation.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 20, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday the 'Skins had 36 rushing plays and 24 pass plays. I'm guessing that's about the mix they'll have going forward. So do you want a run blocker or a pass blocker?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 20, 2008 1:18 PM

I'm guessing that they will have a different mix this week in Detroit ... way more passing. And then I will have a different guess after the Detroit game (after seeing what worked/didn't work re: the Skins passing game in Detroit, plus seeing the injury report for the Steelers as of next Monday).

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I love that we have a bye in the 10th week. 7-2 would be awesome, this team needs some well deserved rest that week.

Posted by: ryan_conaway | October 20, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Sit Griff, and get Monty in there for the next game. DT is going to be a position in need of upgrade during the offseason.

Saw some Haynesworth highlights last night on ESPN. That cat can ball....WOW...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 20, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Um, an "internal health issue"? What is it? Dyspepsia? Ulcer? Kennel cough? Oh, no, is it heartburn? Something worse? Hemorroids? Wait, that would be an "external health issue" I guess.

Posted by: LittleSoren | October 20, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Check this video out from the LSU vs South Carolina game the ref actually tackles the QB from SC.


http://www.collegefootballtalk.com/2008/10/19/hit-of-the-week-ref-on-south-carolina-qb-stephen-garcia/

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 20, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

3. ... Griffin feels like he's on the decline. ...

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 10:07 AM

"DT Cornelius Griffin is a serious concern, with his shoulder injury still very painful. He played through it Sunday and fared well, but Zorn said he's hurt, he really is," and he may "demand" that Griffin sit out Sunday."

>> Well that explains THAT.

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

At least they are telling us now that Springs won't be in there Sunday. I feel lied to when all week he swears he's gonna play and then sits it out anyway. Oh well. Thanks to Jerry Steinbrenner, the Lions only have one good receiver to worry about, and it's starting to look like C Rogers can handle anybody on his own. Thanks Jerry! Lions also have no run game whatsoever.....rest everyone you can.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 20, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

3. ... For the first time this season (OK, I was drinking a little and my mind started to wander), Montgomery felt like trade bait. ...

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 10:07 AM

Sit Griff, and get Monty in there for the next game. ...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 20, 2008 1:24 PM

I'm going to agree to disagree ... and give the nod to Lorenzo Alexander.

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Saw some Haynesworth highlights last night on ESPN. That cat can ball....WOW...

Yeah just keep your helmet on around him, dangerously unstable!

Posted by: Stu27 | October 20, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

5. Rogers is the king stud of all corners. The end.

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 10:07 AM

dlhaze, agree to agree.

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

From previous thread

Since I see some folks are looking to the schedule crystal, any predictions for the NFC playoff break down?

1. Giants - barring a massive injury spate, you have to respect NY
2. Cardinals - yeah, this is a stretch, but the other divisions are well contested

Then I have 5 teams fighting for 4 spots:
Chicago - an NFL QB has been sighted in CHI, we'll see if its a mirage
Tampa - The D has been quietly retooled
Skins - I believe we can scrape together 5 more wins

If winter comes early, Minnesota might start pulverizing people, but if not I'm booking the Packers.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 20, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Agreed on the rest thing, dlhaze. I would love a blow out this Sunday, and get CP some serious rest. He's over 160 carries already...on pace for (add the 3...carry the 1...boo on math), um, a whole lot of touches. I'd rather have the bell cow medium instead of well-done come January.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 20, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

About the fan's hands being in front of the camera. A fan called the Certato show this morning and was so sure that a fan had put a program up intentionally to block the camera.

Well...I went to NFL.com and used their "Replay re-cutter", and looked at the play again. The guy couldn't be more wrong, the fan(s), more than one, had their hands up, no program. The main fan had his hands locked together above his head, and seriously doubt he was doing it on purpose.

Danny needs to find a fix for this problem. This has been a problem for a while. I have sat in both the upper level and club level, at the 50. The cameras are right behind the first two rows where you can clearly tell interference is bound to happen. This should be an easy fix.

Posted by: joeblazin | October 20, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Taylor, Grif, Springs, and Washington should all dress but sit out and only play if needed this week. Detroit is a sinking ship that we should be able to handle, that's not overlooking or trap game or any of that. We are the superior team period, we should be able to beat them handily. And if we get up like we should, I hope they let Rock and Shaun take the second half pounding and let CP get a break too. This game is coming at the perfect time. We need to let JC get his rhythm with back with the passing game, get up early and pound them in the second half with CP resting. We're gonna need him on Monday night against Pitt. That's gonna be a dogfight, we need to be as healthy as possible heading into that one, fortunately we'll have the bye after that.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 20, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Can someone find out if we will ever wear burgundy on burgundy uniforms?

Posted by: GreatOne1 | October 20, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I dunno ... this looks highly leveraged during a credit drought as it is ("The venture, named Legends Hospitality Management, borrowed $100 million several weeks ago. The Cowboys and Yankees each own a third of the company; Goldman Sach has most of the remainder."). I'm guessing that Goldman Sach's "capital" contribution is "in the mail."

Posted by: dcsween | October 20, 2008 1:13 PM

Sween - The Skins are worth over a Billion Dollars and Congress just approved $700 Billion Dollars to Wall Street (Which is really $1.3 Trillion Dollars but no one really cares because we will be dead when it's time to repay and the election will be over when the US Americans get the real numbers). They (and specifically Snyder) can still get credit.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 20, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Then I have 5 teams fighting for 4 spots:

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 20, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse


Don't forget Carolina. They could easily be 7-2 in a few weeks.

Posted by: will_ga | October 20, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Saw some Haynesworth highlights last night on ESPN. That cat can ball....WOW...

Posted by: BeantownGreg


wasn't he the one who assaulted another player who was laying on the ground? the Skins don't need bad character people. Let the Cowboys take him.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | October 20, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

OK. I feel the need to rebuke all the jinx-donkeys on this blog who are already treating Detroit like they are the Citadel.

Haven't we been through this before? You were probably the same guys toasting a 41-0 victory that never took place against the Rams the week leading up.

Now, of course, I expect and hope for us to win. But let's just treat the situation like we are going to play another professional team who has players that also get paid. Treat it like any other week; rest the guys who absolutely NEED it; play everyone else.

Once you start pulling guys out with nicks/scrapes, I can't imagine you are setting a very serious tone of preparation for the game.

Posted by: p1funk | October 20, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Saw some Haynesworth highlights last night on ESPN. That cat can ball....WOW...

Posted by: BeantownGreg


wasn't he the one who assaulted another player who was laying on the ground? the Skins don't need bad character people. Let the Cowboys take him.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | October 20, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

The player he assaulted was a Cowboy - center Andre Gurode. Of course, given Jerry Jones and the way he embraced T.O., it's clear there are no scruples in that town when it comes to selling one's soul to Beezelbub.

Posted by: p1funk | October 20, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Can someone find out if we will ever wear burgundy on burgundy uniforms?

Posted by: GreatOne1 | October 20, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A

About 30 seconds in...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 20, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins can't stop Detroit's offense with Griffin, Taylor, and Springs resting, this team isn't as good as I thought. They also need to limit CP's carries to about 15 in this game and let Shaun Alexander show us what he can do for 8-10 carries if this game is in hand by halftime (which it should considering Detroit is terrible).

Any game against Pittsburgh is going to be as physical as an NFC East battle and we need our nicked up guys back as close to 100% as possible. If we're 7-2 or 6-3 worse case heading into the bye week, we should be in good shape for the playoffs.

The Giants have only beaten one team with a winning record and have a much tougher schedule the next 10 games (Dallas and Philly twice, Skins here, Pittsburgh away, Arizona away, and Minnesota). The only easy game left on their schedule is Baltimore so look for them to lose at least 4 more games the rest of the way. Dallas is disintegrating and Philly is already 2+ games back at this point.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 20, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Definitely need to sit Corny this week, probably 55 too. I cannot understand how a calf strain is becoming a 3-4 week injury but at least Carlos is playing like a legit #1 corner and Smoot is still definitely above average.

This weekend would be a good time for S. Alexander to get 10-15 reps, CP def needs an easy load if possible.

Totally agree that our bye week is well-timed this year.

HAIL

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 20, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I would say this Detroit game is more important than the Steelers game as it is a conference game (good for tiebreakers). Over the last two games they lost to the Vikings by 2 and Texans by 7. Not blowouts. Any time you keep a team in the game they have a chance to win at the end (see Rams, Browns). If we start using our backups...I wouldn't be very suprised to see another close game going down to the wire. Go skins..play though the pain until the bye week.

Posted by: patio100 | October 20, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

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