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Is this game the end of the line for Joe Bugel?

So much figures to change for the Redskins after their final game of the season Sunday in San Diego, with familiar faces departing.

One coach whose future is uncertain, Barry Svrluga writes, is Joe Bugel; at 69 and after a challenging year of cobbling together an offensive line, will the curmudgeonly coach retire or continue his career?

On Friday morning, Bugel was there with the Redskins, wearing a burgundy ski hat and puffy jacket as the team went through its final practice of the season. Will it be Bugel's final practice -- period?
"Buges is tough to wear out," former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs said.
Earlier in the week, Bugel declined to talk about his career or his future, saying he didn't think it was the right time. But whether he decides to coach another season or not -- and most people at Redskins Park believe he will retire -- he has left a mammoth impression on the men he coached, most of whom he has cussed at incessantly, then hugged around the neck.
"He's so passionate -- and loyal, man," veteran guard Derrick Dockery said. "He cares a lot about his guys. He'll do anything for his guys."

Read the full story here.

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Comedian, St. Albanian and suffering Redskins fan Danny Rouhier really hates the Cowboys. And he really hated that game Sunday.

In the zone...

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By Cindy Boren  |  January 2, 2010; 10:18 AM ET
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Joe Bugel deserves to be in the Redskins Hall of Fame

Posted by: ccwbambam | January 2, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I hate the videos. Bring back the polls! I can't think of two guys I'd less like to see discuss our game-day prospects than Brian Mitchell and Mike Wise. Okay, maybe Vinny Cerrato and Steve Spurrier.

Posted by: League-Source

How about you and RedDMV?

Posted by: TheCork | January 2, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I'm saying yes. But I'm sad his run is over and want to say to JOE:

"Thanks for the memories and for all the young men you helped develop into better players over the years everywhere you've been." F******A. Go JOE.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 2, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

" F******A. Go JOE.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 2, 2010 11:10 AM

I'll second that

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Carry forward:

BA PERFECTLY solves the Redskins problem around the League: Vinny was a clownish Dbag who could be counted on by agents to overpay in cash and by teams to overpay in value either in players or picks.

Now, whether it was really Danny all along, and if it was Danny all along can BA can put a stop to it, remains to be seen.

As usual, I'm hopeful.

I'll say this tough: Danny didn't bring in BA to hire a barely heard of HC candidate looking for a shot to shock the world. I suppose the ONE possible outlier to this theory would be Grimm. Although Grimm really isn't a barely heard of HC candidate around these parts, he would soothe the masses, and in partnership with BA could turn things around. BUT, the Cardinals playoff run is going to be a negative factor for Grimm as Danny will be chomping at the bit to get his new guy in here so he does not get aced like last time.

If I'm BA and Danny, Billick is my fall back position. Cowher ain't coming here, and you still need an Offensive guy if he does. Billick won a superbowl with a journeyman QB, a good oline, and a great D. Based on his running comments last night, the guy LUSTS to be back on the sidelines. Two of those ingredients are pretty much in place(JC is a viable journeyman, and IMO Colt could be no worse than one as well), and after the draft/free agency they COULD be locked and loaded in all three areas. Win a superbowl without further upgrades? Nope, but you at least become competitive and have the foundation in place to be on your way.

Fixing the Oline opens the world. Neglecting it again only means you flailingly strive to achieve mediocrity.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 2, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

The 'Skins have had two great coaches named Joe. One was nicknamed "St. Joe." The other was not. Thanks for everything, Buges. We'll never forget you. The day you retire the Hoggettes will be dressed in widow's weeds. Godspeed.

Posted by: boothintexas | January 2, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

"....working magic will include aquiring additional draft picks by trading away "Core Redskins."

Let's be honest: NFL GMs don't see much trade value in dealing with a roster that finishes 4-12.

As much as folks 'wolf' about trading this guy or that guy, GMs want future picks, not failed players.

So if additional picks are to be had, the best thing would be part with the '11 first rounder and a player.

That might get back a second and fourth rounder in the '10 draft.

That's 3 picks in rounds 1-2 and 4 other picks.

Three top picks could render two tackles and a running back or a tackle, running back, and quarterback.

Or a variety of other, more realistic options than moving a player no one wants.

Especially if it's a player that in hindsight we realize we really did need.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 2, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"One coach whose future is uncertain is Joe Bugel...will the curmudgeonly coach retire or continue his career?"

I hate to go there, but if the position you've been hired to coach has digressed over the course of your tenure, how is your returning even a question?

If you go back to when he returned with St Joe thru this weekend, the redskin offensive line has been miserable.

Folks blame Vinny for not drafting linemen.

But when St Joe was running things, he didn't bring in any young offensive linemen either.

Why?: he and Buges believed the 1980s style of training up undrafted, second tier players into starting linemen was the way of doing things.

But the league has changed as defensive linemen are as athletic as H-backs.

Plus, teams rotate players so no 300 pound defensive tackle gets worn down from a pounding running attack.

And you can't block them with undrafted, old, and round 7 guys year after year.

You must advocate drafting top players for the offensive line just as you do for any other position in the modern NFL.

That change in thinking occured in the early 2000s.

All of this is not Joe Bugel's fault.

But it's a change in talent acquisition philosophy he, Joe Gibbs, and Vinny Cerrato obviously didn't embrace.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 2, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

what a great comment by Moe..!! times change and it was not possible for Joe Gibbs to keep up with the evolution of the game.. i guess the same can be said about Bugel.

maybe if we get Shanahan and someone who is formthe McKittrick/AGibbs school of mobile, cut blocking lineman we will see improvement ?
or we could end up with younger, more massive O linemen + a more mobile qb ? one thing for certain, i agree the era of the slow footed qb behind a big slow offensive line is over

Posted by: shally | January 2, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. That's not my reading of St. Joe; the team he inherited was a disaster of Spurrierian proportions, awful defense, no skill at RB, QB, or WR. But With Samuels, Jansen, Thomas, Raymer, and some potential in Dockery, the foundations of an elite o-line were in place.
The o-line raw materials were there, but otherwise the cupboards were bare. They went on a spending spree before 2004 to fix the defense, got Portis for a second rounder (they had to throw in the last year of Champ's contract as a sweetener, but if you think of it as Portis for a second, it's not all crazy -- god knows people Up Here are trying to get a second for him today), Brunell, struggled offensively but were in almost every game. 2005 further improvements, the playoff run, and then the big decision. I think St. Joe looked at the 2006 season, thought that he had too much on his plate (head coach, run the offense, act as GM. Looking back, I wish he'd had chosen to keep running the offense, he had a plan and the personnel he needed -- my feeling is that Cooley would be in the discussion for best H-back ever, and maybe they get some decent performance out of Brunell for one more year. But I can understand that Gibbs was in a position where the challenges of managing a team and FO was probably newer and more interesting than running an offense. And so, Al Saunders came, and with him the H-back went away, BLloyd's fingertips arrived, and JC started down his path of confusion.

Posted by: daggar | January 2, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Bugel was good in the 80's. But things have changed and it's really time for him to go. Thanks for the memories coach Bugel. Hope you enjoy retirement.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 2, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Bugel is just one example of people who should have been held onto instead of cast into the winds by Vinnie & Co. Past is past though - so let's hope Allen has his act together and is a better judge of talent and character.

Posted by: Mark20005 | January 3, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

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