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Jarmon's ready for any defense Redskins plan to use

If everything had gone as planned, Jeremy Jarmon would be getting ready for next week's NFL Draft Combine. Instead Jarmon's college career ended a year early (when the Redskins used a supplemental draft pick on him) and he's now rehabbing from knee surgery that ended his rookie NFL season Nov. 29. He's eager to begin Year 2 right where left off. The question is, what role will Jarmon play in the Redskins' new defense?

"I haven't been told," Jarmon said in an interview Wednesday. "I just want to get myself to a situation where if needed, I'll be able to play whatever they want. So if they say, 'Jeremy, we need you to play linebacker,' I can. If they want me on the defensive line, I'll be ready for that, too."

There has been much speculation that the Redskins will be switching to a 3-4 defense, which might seem to bode well for Jarmon, who was a guest on "Washington Post Live" on Comcast SportsNet.


"I've played defensive end pretty much all of my college career," Jarmon told host Ivan Carter. "In high school, I played fullback and some tight end. For me, I just want to get on the field. Wherever that may be, I don't care. I just want to give it my go, give it my best
shot, work hard and get out there, do the best I can with what coaches want me to do."

As a follow-up, I asked Jarmon if he's ever played linebacker in his life.

"Um," he said, followed by a long pause. "No. I had to think about that one for a minute. I created myself on a video game once and I was a linebacker."

In real life, he seems to know it's a possibility. Jarmon's listed at 6-foot-3, 277 pounds. He played last season at both defensive end and defensive tackle. But it doesn't seem like a defensive lineman would be talking to the linebackers coach for no reason. Plus, Jarmon says he'd like to shed some weight and get down into the 260s by summer -- not the ideal weight for a defensive tackle.

Jarmon says he hasn't sought advice from guys like Brian Orakpo and Chris Wilson, who've made the switch from end to linebacker, but he might down the road.

"I think it's too early for something like that," he said. "Once it's etched in stone what our defense is going to be, that will be the time that I sit down and talk to some of the linebackers or some of the linemen and pick their brains."

Jarmon missed the final five games of the season after tearing his anterior cruciate ligament against Philadelphia. He's still in the midst of his rehab and says he doesn't expect to be too active during the first minicamp. But he fully expects to be ready for
training camp.

"I feel like I'm ready to step in and make a difference," he said. "I feel like I got a lot of good practice reps and I got some game reps in some critical games at some critical times. So I want to start where I left off in that Philly game."

While a lot of players have scattered and are catching their breath after a trying 2009 season, Jarmon has been a regular presence around Redskins Park this winter, which means he's had plenty of face time with the new coaching staff.

"I like their demeanor. I like their confidence. They come off to me like people who've been there before, who know what it takes, like, 'We can get you there,' " Jarmon said.

For now, he's focusing on his rehab, mostly weights and swimming.

Jarmon will head to Lexington, Ky., for about a week, where he'll continue rehabbing at his alma mater during his visit, and then he'll go to Florida for a follow-up visit with James Andrews, his orthopedic surgeon.

By Rick Maese  |  February 18, 2010; 10:21 AM ET
 
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I’m with whoever said not to compare Kiper to weathermen/meteorologists……up here the Philly guys have been SPOT ON with all of their predicitions over the past few years. In October, they told us that we would have a very snowy winter this year, and they have given us at least 5 to 6 days lead time every time we get a storm. Even their snow total predictions have been accurate thus far (if they say we will get 18-24 inches, it pretty much happens that way). The old sayings about if the weatherman tells you it will be sunny today, you better pack an umbrella are long gone. I for one have been mighty impressed at their accuracy as of late, and how accurate the 5-10 day forecasts are getting.

Kiper however, is a dong.

As are the Philly sportscasters, who no matter who the Eagles are playing, predict an Eagles win. I made a point to check out the three local Eagles pre game shows this past year and every single guy on every single show picked the eagles to win every single week. Nice credibility there…..the only exception might be Via Sikahema, who maybe said that they would lose one game.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 18, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Jarmon missed the final five games of the season after tearing his anterior cruciate ligament against Philadelphia. He's still in the midst of his rehab and says he doesn't expect to be too active during the first minicamp. But he fully expects to be ready for
training camp.
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not a doctor..But had my ACL torn in college ball.. You're never really the same after that injury.. Good luck JarJar..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

JJ is close to the size to play DE in both system, and he strikes me as one of the better picks by Vinny.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 18, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

trade cooley for a first, move jarmon to te....book it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Haze
I think we get the same thing from skins media, if Larry Michael was right on all his picks the skins would go 16-0 every season.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 18, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

If a re-signed JC has another "sh-t fit trade me tantrum" about a drafted QB or an acquired FA QB... trade him to Jax or the Browns (both in serious QB need) for a coupla of their blue chip OLine guys.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse
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Whoa, hold on a minute: this is just not true. Even the most irrational of JC haters out there couldn't seriously argue that JC conducted himself with anything but dignity and class during the last off-season. He didn't throw any tantrums, even though many others in his position would have done so.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 18, 2010 10:47 AM
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http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/04/23/jason-campbell-will-request-a-trade-if-redskins-make-a-move-for/

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Alex, I'd like to see more from Jarmon before we declare that a win. If he goes bust (and I'm not saying he will), that'll hurt double because we really could use that 3rd round pick this year.

But it seems to me his skill set is what will determine his role (assuming we go to a 3-4)...if they like his athleticism, he may drop a few pounds and play LB. If he's more of a mauler, they may ask him to get into the 280s and play DE. I'd bet on LB since there's more of a need (again, assuming the 3-4 switch happens).

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

trade cooley for a first, move jarmon to te....book it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I was thinking more along the lines of re-signing BMG and have him ADD weight. Then we could use him as a FB/elephant on those goal line situations. But yeah, trade cooley, who needs an pro bowl TE anyway?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 18, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Haze
I think we get the same thing from skins media, if Larry Michael was right on all his picks the skins would go 16-0 every season.
Posted by: alex35332 | February 18, 2010 11:04 AM

Yeah, it’s probably the same in every city…..although I wouldn’t expect all of the DC sportscasters to pick the Skins every week (Jurgensen, etc). Larry Michael is beyond anyone I’ve ever seen in any city when it comes to homerism. Philly sports RADIO is a different story. Those guys are brutal. Very fair weather of course, but they don’t pick em to win every week.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 18, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"Kiper however, is a dong.

As are the Philly sportscasters, [who].....maybe said that they would lose one game."


Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 18, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

The prose just gets better and better.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

trade cooley for a first, move jarmon to te....book it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Beantown:

That's a bit over the top even for you. Check with Diesel44 and get back to me on that.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I think we get the same thing from skins media, if Larry Michael was right on all his picks the skins would go 16-0 every season.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 18, 2010 11:04 AM


Yeah, but Larry is actually employed by the team so he may actually HAVE to do that. Independent media in D.C. seems to be pretty critical of the Skins and have no problem picking against them (at least from what I've seen).

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I was thinking more along the lines of re-signing BMG and have him ADD weight. Then we could use him as a FB/elephant on those goal line situations. But yeah, trade cooley, who needs an pro bowl TE anyway?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 18, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

The yucks here this morning are better than tunes.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"I've played defensive end pretty much all of my college career," Jarmon told host Ivan Carter. "In high school, I played fullback and some tight end"

gl, what part of this don't you get?? Trade Cooley for a first, and dump Sellers, because Jarmon can do both.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Greg, why dump Sellers when you can trade him for two 3rd round picks? Surely someone needs a blocking FB approaching his mid-30s and would be excited to pay dearly for him. I mean, if the Niners are willing to give up two 1st rounders for Haynesworth...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"I like their demeanor. I like their confidence. They come off to me like people who've been there before, who know what it takes, like, 'We can get you there,' " Jarmon said.

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Does This statment make you think more of your new coach or less of your old coach?

I'll go with the latter....

Now that we are in revisionist history mode....If I were Zorn, I may have declined that opportunity to take the HC spot for the better of my carrer.....HE should have just stayed at OC and made them find another canidate....Like Gray or Blatche.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 18, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/04/23/jason-campbell-will-request-a-trade-if-redskins-make-a-move-for/

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse
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"Reportedly" going to demand a trade if the 'Skins had drafted Sanchez hardly qualifies as a "S*&t fit". JC was not quoted, to my knowledge, saying anything of the sort, and in fact said fairly mild things, if I recall. What Cutler did when he left Denver was throwing a fit. You're not giving JC enough credit.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 18, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Now that we are in revisionist history mode....If I were Zorn, I may have declined that opportunity to take the HC spot for the better of my carrer.....HE should have just stayed at OC and made them find another canidate....Like Gray or Blatche.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 18, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

If Gray or Blatche were HC, they probably would have fired Zorn in his first offseason or at some point in his first year.

He was QB coach for the same team for 7 yrs with no promotion. There's a reason that kind of thing happens.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 18, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Greg, why dump Sellers when you can trade him for two 3rd round picks? Surely someone needs a blocking FB approaching his mid-30s and would be excited to pay dearly for him. I mean, if the Niners are willing to give up two 1st rounders for Haynesworth...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse
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That would be great, but I think that two third-rounders for Sellers is a little optimistic...

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 18, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I like Jarmon. He's audacious.

Posted by: dcsween | February 18, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

" ... But it doesn't seem like a defensive lineman would be talking to the linebackers coach for no reason. ..."

Jarmon passing Spanos in the hallway, "G'morning, coach."

Spanos replies, "What's your reason for talking to me!"

[I just don't get the blogging here ... if Jarmon hasn't spoken to Orakpo or Wilson about it, what's the point of implying that he spoke to the LB coach?]

Posted by: dcsween | February 18, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

That would be great, but I think that two third-rounders for Sellers is a little optimistic...

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 18, 2010 11:34 AM


Dude, I wasn't serious. That was another dig at the KurtShanamans of the world who adopt the whole "trade everybody for first round picks" approach.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I love when sarcasm isn't detected.

Sort makes the others person attempt at it that more funny.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 18, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Soup was a whiney SJK last off-season. That interview made me want to hurl.

Again, I'm no hater on Soup (though I seriously question his ablity to develop beyond what he currently is). But at no point last off season did he ever step up, accept criticism, and declare the ability or desire to rise above.

Now, granted he knew what kind of mess he was in. And I doubt he wanted to make any performance promises. But it would have been nice to see him step the SJK up instead of crying about the lack of support.

He's not a 'what have you done for me lately' - he's a 'what have you done for me EVER'! He has no claim on anything. He still has to prove it... once again.

...I'm too confused by irony to tell if there's any sarcasm in this post or not. Please interpret fo yoself.

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 18, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Was watching the Wolverine movie the other night and I was thinking, "Damn, that blob could really solve the Redskins' need for a nose tackle."

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I love when sarcasm isn't detected.

Sort makes the others person attempt at it that more funny.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 18, 2010 11:42 AM

Opposite end of the spectrum is the guy who makes a false claim, gets called on it, and says "I was being sarcastic. What's wrong with you? Can't you detect sarcasm?"

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

In the picture above, Jarmon looks like he has no upper body build whatsoever. Is it me or just the angle.

Posted by: joeboggs | February 18, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

ls, how goes the medical advice I dispensed last post??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I say we trade Haynesworth for the jets entire offensive line, trade Cooley for two first rounders. Then we could do a Moss for Moss trade, not Randy, just some actual moss. Make Jeremy Jarmon a blocking TE or fullback. Make Mike Williams the nutritionist and Clinton Portis the head of media relations.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

In the picture above, Jarmon looks like he has no upper body build whatsoever. Is it me or just the angle.

Posted by: joeboggs | February 18, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Would you rather him put on a spandex tanktop and a sailor hat?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

ls, how goes the medical advice I dispensed last post??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:48 AM

Show me your license. You're not a real fake MD like SNAGM. You and RSH are both fake fake doctors. You're just the AFLAC duck: Quack, quack.

I would have believed that advice if you'd gotten it off PFT.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I say we trade Haynesworth for the jets entire offensive line, trade Cooley for two first rounders. Then we could do a Moss for Moss trade, not Randy, just some actual moss. Make Jeremy Jarmon a blocking TE or fullback. Make Mike Williams the nutritionist and Clinton Portis the head of media relations.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 11:49 AM

You almost had me there, but I'm not biting on this one. I'm on Red alert for sarcasm and I'm 85% certain this is the real thing.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I was watching Zombieland last night and could not help thinking, those zombies look a lot like the skins roster at the end of last season.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 18, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Would you rather him put on a spandex tanktop and a sailor hat?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Under Armour took over for Spandex!

Posted by: joeboggs | February 18, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I was watching "What's eating Gilbert Grape?" the other night and for a second I thought, "Is Mike Williams in this movie?' oh wait it's Gilbert's mom.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

ls, how goes the medical advice I dispensed last post??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:48 AM

Show me your license. You're not a real fake MD like SNAGM. You and RSH are both fake fake doctors. You're just the AFLAC duck: Quack, quack.

I would have believed that advice if you'd gotten it off PFT.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 11:52 AM
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Bean and I are just trying to help with you shoulder injury - just a couple of concerned buddies looking out for your general welfare, that's all.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

ls, how goes the medical advice I dispensed last post??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


Ol' Jack Kevorkian/Conrad Murray bama...

Posted by: RedDMV | February 18, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

"Jarmon's ready for any defense Redskins plan to use"


Jarmon equals a wasted 3rd round pick.

Had Vinny waited, the team could've had him this year at a much lower selection.

And if another team took him, the 3rd rounder replaces him or becomes a much needed offensive lineman.

Maybe the coaches haven't told him their plans for him as they don't have any.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I was watching "What's eating Gilbert Grape?" the other night and for a second I thought, "Is Mike Williams in this movie?' oh wait it's Gilbert's mom.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:00 PM
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Can you imagine if the Skins had a defensive line made up of Gilbert's mom, the Blob, and Phat Bastard? It would take a running back all day just to get around them...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I was watching Lord of the Rings over the weekend, I thought I saw Dan Snyder in it but it turned out just to be Sean Astin playing a hobbit.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 18, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The thing I don't understand about Jarmon is no one has told him anything yet. I would think they would want to get a jump on his conditioning if they wanted him to lose weight to play linebacker or bulk up to play end. He's a guy with upside, but I am not sure he can contribute this year. Is he trade bait?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I was watching "What's eating Gilbert Grape?" the other night and for a second I thought, "Is Mike Williams in this movie?' oh wait it's Gilbert's mom.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:00 PM
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Can you imagine if the Skins had a defensive line made up of Gilbert's mom, the Blob, and Phat Bastard? It would take a running back all day just to get around them...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Add ralphie May and Bruce Bruce for depth

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I was watching White Out last night and thought to myself: “My god, Kate Beckinsale is hot!”……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 18, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

trade cooley for a first, move jarmon to te....book it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:03 AM |

Let's not forget to move Carlos to WR and trade JC for Seattle's entire draft.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Dude, I wasn't serious. That was another dig at the KurtShanamans of the world who adopt the whole "trade everybody for first round picks" approach.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse
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Sorry, I'm an idiot...

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 18, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I was watching Intervention the other night and Jim Zorn was on there. He was addicted to calling 2 stretch plays on 1st and 2nd down, throwing it way short on 3rd and long, and thinking his game plans would work.

His play calling was effecting his entire team, the Redskins were in shambles.

He was getting in trouble at work, and all of RI was trying to tell him there was a problem, but he just wouldn't listen.

He has been almost 2 months without play calls and is rehabbing in a facility just north of D.C.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I was watching White Out last night and thought to myself: “My god, Kate Beckinsale is hot!”……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 18, 2010 12:13 PM |

I was watching Underworld the other night and I thought the same thing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 18, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I was watching Intervention the other night and Jim Zorn was on there. He was addicted to calling 2 stretch plays on 1st and 2nd down, throwing it way short on 3rd and long, and thinking his game plans would work.

His play calling was effecting his entire team, the Redskins were in shambles.
He was getting in trouble at work, and all of RI was trying to tell him there was a problem, but he just wouldn't listen.

He has been almost 2 months without play calls and is rehabbing in a facility just north of D.C.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:19 PM
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Saw him selling Gates at Home Depot.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Saw him selling Gates at Home Depot.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

To who? The Giants special teams?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what you're talking about Moe.

In his time on the field last year (remember when they said he wasn't even going to make it on the field last year?) he showed flashes of being a solid player even as a rookie.

If they hadn't used the third, they would have lost him to one of the other teams that put in a claim. Impossible to say they could have had him for a lower pick this year. If he had gone through the combine, his stock may (or may not) have gone up.

As for using the 3rd on a o-lineman, don't forget that aside from o-line, one of our other glaring areas of old age and lack of depth going into last year was the d-line. Between Orakpo, AH, and Jarmon, I wouldn't want to say we're 'set' at the D-line, but they are at least a solid unit, and depth is not a problem.

Posted by: ts35 | February 18, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone talks about "glaring holes " at every position. Are we supposed to have a 25 year old Pro bowler at every position on the field?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I was watching "What's eating Gilbert Grape?" the other night and for a second I thought, "Is Mike Williams in this movie?' oh wait it's Gilbert's mom.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:00 PM
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I cant believe the insensitivity of Hollywood promoting a movie called
"Stutter Island".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe the insensitivity of Hollywood promoting a movie called
"Stutter Island".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I heard on Stutter Island Clinton Portis is the speech therapist

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone talks about "glaring holes " at every position. Are we supposed to have a 25 year old Pro bowler at every position on the field?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:34 PM
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Memba when the Skins went 8-8 and Vinny said "we have the most 1st round picks than any other team."

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

ARLINGTON, Texas—Dallas Cowboys vice president Stephen Jones says the team doesn't plan to spend wildly on free agents if the NFL has no salary cap in 2010.

Jones said Wednesday that the Cowboys agreed to expensive, long-term deals with the likes of Tony Romo and linebacker DeMarcus Ware to keep them off the market in a year when teams might have no limit on spending

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Tiger Woods return to the Spotlight pre-Transcript.

(INSERT descending audio of Sir-Mix-A-lot's "I Like Big Butts" that gets stuck in a loop that repeats "You other brothas can deny...I will not lie".)

Mr Woods speaks into the camera:

Man, sex rehab sucked...maybe I should re-phrase that.

I tell you one thing: I do now know how to block messages and numbers while using cell phone.

To my former sponsors, I hope Phil Mickleson helps you sell something than unfulfilled potential.

And I don't get why folks are pissed at me anyways.

I mean, all I was doing is what countless other married dudes are doing: 'cept I got caught.

My personal racial issues had something to do with my sexual addiction.

In terms of booty, my asian side wanted some and my black side wanted more.

I want the kids who track my career to know that the next time I sneak out on Ms. Woods, I'll leave a harder trail to follow.

I bought and burned down the house of the neighbor who made that crackhead 911 call, too.

Finally, one thing I won't deny is that above all, I'm just a man who made a mistake that he might make again.

And that's one truth about me and all been caught cheatin' men that's not a lie.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone talks about "glaring holes " at every position. Are we supposed to have a 25 year old Pro bowler at every position on the field?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

No, but we'd like to have a guy that didn't spend most of the offseason baggin groceries at the local S-mart. Perhaps guys that actually expected to get drafted?

shop smart...shop S-mart

Injuries can and do happen very often espcially in our division. You look at the teams that stockpile those middle round picks. The Eagles and the Cowboys. They are good because they have guys that can come in and play well and they don't have to limit their schemes or change their game plans when a starter goes down. We trade away all those picks and we have to send in 5th-7th rounders or undrafted guys instead of 2nd-3rd rounders when a guy gets hurt.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 18, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe the insensitivity of Hollywood promoting a movie called
"Stutter Island".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I heard on Stutter Island Clinton Portis is the speech therapist

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:42 PM
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Mike Tyson is the bouncer at the Stutter Island bar.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Memba when the Skins went 8-8 and Vinny said "we have the most 1st round picks than any other team."

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Usually we have others first round picks, who are a decade into their playing career.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe the insensitivity of Hollywood promoting a movie called
"Stutter Island".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I heard on Stutter Island Clinton Portis is the speech therapist

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:42 PM
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Mike Tyson is the bouncer at the Stutter Island bar.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Michael Palin from A Fish Called Wanda...just a guest there.

Posted by: RomoShortball | February 18, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I watched Half Baked the other night and it reminded me of Jarmon.. The doctor said I need a Backaomatry.. I want to talk to Sampson!!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | February 18, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I was watching Half Baked the other night and it reminded me of Jarmon.. The Doctor said I need a Back-a-omatry.. I wanna talk to Sampson!!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | February 18, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Since we're being entirely insensitive, the go-go dancer on Stutter Island is that ex redskin cheerleader...

...too soon?

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 18, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

...chirp...


....chirp...

.....chirp...

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 18, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I was watching White Out last night and thought to myself: “My god, Kate Beckinsale is hot!”……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 18, 2010 12:13 PM |

I was watching Underworld the other night and I thought the same thing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 18, 2010 12:23 PM
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I love Van Helsing and she's a big reason why. Of course, Elena Anaya was pretty hot, too.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

"...heard on Stutter Island Clinton Portis is the speech therapist..."


Actually, the rumor is that Mike Williams was the stunt/body double for the fat chick in "Precious".

I hear, though, his work was just limited to the sex and eating scenes.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 18, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

MAyock talks about the Redskins 3:20 mark...Speaks with sense....unlike Mel Kiper....

And MAyock and I agree.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 18, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Right now...I see best case scenario is us getting a healthy BRadford and jumping back in the late 20s and getting BRuce Campbell....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 18, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Here is my Aetna insurance number: 8392-298382-1984A.

Thanks for your help, doctor.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 10:28 AM

Sorry sir, This is your Medicaid card and it expired 10 years ago and we no longer accept Medicare. We’ve notified your senior care facility and they’re sending the bus for you now.

Oh and before you wheel yourself outside to wait, could you please return all of the office’s People magazines. Kthxbye.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

some cat in TX, lit his house on fire, then jumped into a stolen plan, and flew it into a building....

anyone heard from jd in houston today?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

they confirmed the pilot is named Joseph Andrew Stack......

so we might have a famous/crazy former RI member.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Right now...I see best case scenario is us getting a healthy BRadford and jumping back in the late 20s and getting BRuce Campbell....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 18, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I'll be shocked if Bruce Campbell doesn't get picked in the top 15 especially after his combine results are in.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 18, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I thought I saw Albert Haynesworth on TV the other day....turns out it was just Monique'

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe the insensitivity of Hollywood promoting a movie called
"Stutter Island".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I heard on Stutter Island Clinton Portis is the speech therapist

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:42 PM
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Mike Tyson is the bouncer at the Stutter Island bar.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Michael Palin from A Fish Called Wanda...just a guest there.

Posted by: RomoShortball | February 18, 2010 12:57 PM |
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Football was dropped on Stutter Island. The snap count was carrying over into the commercial breaks.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/olympics/2010/02/lindsey_vonn_races_in_super_co.html?hpid=artslot

Cindy is rocking the Olympics Blog now as well, that is a multi-talented lady.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 18, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Again, I'm no hater on Soup ....

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 18, 2010 11:44 AM

wrong

Posted by: dcsween | February 18, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Jarmon equals a wasted 3rd round pick.

Had Vinny waited, the team could've had him this year at a much lower selection.

And if another team took him, the 3rd rounder replaces him or becomes a much needed offensive lineman.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 12:02 PM

First point is debatable. Coming in, he was a prototypical Philip Daniels, only younger and not as strong. The second point is not accurate b/c he was going to be selected in the supplemental draft regardless ... but it looks like the third part figured that out ... so maybe the "him" you refer to in the second part is "some guy to play DE" rather than Jarmon specifically.

Posted by: dcsween | February 18, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I was watching An Inconvenient Truth last night and the Skins were warming up to picking Clausen.

Working on Pickle Jarmon joke now.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 18, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I stand to reason that if I do well in Madden on Franchise mode I obviously would make a good GM. Brilliant!!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 17, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Thats just silly,

Now if you can create a team and starting with a "cupcake roster" turn that team into a playoff team in 3 seasons and a superbowl winning team in 5 years, all while not playing a single game in season and not tricking the system (Maddintes know what I mean). THAN you are qualified to be a GM.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 17, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

2010 4-12
2011 8-8
2012 11-5 Division Final
2013 7-9
2014 13-3 Superbowl Champ
2015 7-9
2016 10-6 Superbowl Champ
2017 14-2 Superbowl Champ
2018 11-5 Superbowl Champ

Didn't play a single game.
Do I qualify to be a GM?
Of course it was Front Office Football, not Madden, but it was on Wall Street Mode:)

Posted by: jberry73 | February 18, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Noooo Bradfird...that wing is suffering from the medical condition known as laxity

Posted by: ElYeah | February 18, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"I've played defensive end pretty much all of my college career," Jarmon told host Ivan Carter. "In high school, I played fullback and some tight end"

gl, what part of this don't you get?? Trade Cooley for a first, and dump Sellers, because Jarmon can do both.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

GREG, come on. You're shining me, right? I mean..........

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I like Jarmon. He's audacious.

Posted by: dcsween | February 18, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I don't know about that. I just hope he'll be able to play on that repaired knee this season.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Dude, I wasn't serious. That was another dig at the KurtShanamans of the world who adopt the whole "trade everybody for first round picks" approach.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I thought you were all over that brownie. I'll never trust anything you post again.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

MAyock talks about the Redskins 3:20 mark...Speaks with sense....unlike Mel Kiper....

And MAyock and I agree.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 18, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

That's why he makes sense, right? Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

gl, lets get out of the habit of NOT utilizing the talents of players on this team...no reason Jarmon can't play te/fb at the same time, as well as DE....sorry, I'm just sick of the status quo....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Trade personnel, match FA's, trade down, get picks. Don't forget the leftovers this year. McCRACKEN, WHITEHEAD, WANG,and TRACY. GO REDSKINS.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

sorry, I'm just sick of the status quo....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Me too good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

D Hall is training w/ Darrell Green. I'm hoping other CBs on the team follow suit. Training w/ Green helped Tryon a bunch last year.

http://blog.redskins.com/2010/02/18/deangelo-hall-discusses-darrell-green/

Posted by: TWISI | February 18, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Greg:

Let's see if he can get on the field after that ACL first before making him into the second coming of.....of......oh, what's his name from WALLA WALLA.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

D Hall is training w/ Darrell Green. I'm hoping other CBs on the team follow suit. Training w/ Green helped Tryon a bunch last year.

http://blog.redskins.com/2010/02/18/deangelo-hall-discusses-darrell-green/

Posted by: TWISI | February 18, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm all over that.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

some cat in TX, lit his house on fire, then jumped into a stolen plan, and flew it into a building....

anyone heard from jd in houston today?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Austin's way too far for me to go to make that kind of statement...I'd probably miss the building, anyway, if I tried.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 18, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Washington's defense was one of the best in the league at generating pressure last season, posting a 7.5 percent adjusted sack rate, fifth in the NFL. But despite that pass rush, the defense was terrible at taking advantage of offensive mistakes. The Redskins ranked 30th in turnovers per drive, one of only three defenses (the Browns and Raiders were the other two) that didn't even manage one takeaway per 10 drives. Part of this can be attributed to players such as LaRon Landry and Carlos Rogers having poor instincts when the ball is in the air, but part of it is likely bad luck. If new defensive coordinator Jim Haslett can keep the pass rush going, the odds are that more hurried throws will end up in the hands of Redskins' defensive backs in 2010.

Sean McCormick is an author for Football Outsiders.

Posted by: TWISI | February 18, 2010 9:47 AM |

A couple of comments about this.

1. We didn't need no dimwit blogger to tell us this. We knew about it long ago.

2. It ain't bad luck. Admittedly Rog and Land are brain dead, but the former DC wasn't far from being brain dead hisself. One of the changes for the good that flew under the radar when Vinny and Z left and Shan entered was that flat-liner Blache exited also.

3. Shan should make turnover improvement Has' number one priority. Has and his staff have to study film and figure it out. They may find that Rog and Land are so fried that they have to be off-loaded and to that I say "so be it".

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

D Hall is training w/ Darrell Green. I'm hoping other CBs on the team follow suit. Training w/ Green helped Tryon a bunch last year.

http://blog.redskins.com/2010/02/18/deangelo-hall-discusses-darrell-green/

Posted by: TWISI | February 18, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm all over that.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 3:03 PM
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Man, I second that. Wouldn't it be great if all of the DB's went to train with DG? I hope Tryon goes back and gets some more. I think he's close to being a starter and another offseason training with the Sensei of DB's would help him immensely. Actually, I take that back. I wouldn't send Carlos Rogers to DG: I'd send him to wide receiver 101. You know, just the basics like: "this is how you catch a ball" and "this is a double move". Maybe Landry could sit in on the double move session and then go over to linebacker 101 class for "this is how you wrap up and tackle".

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

jd, good to see it wasn't you....

cat posted his suicide manifesto, its like something frak/corky would write.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

The Darth Vader spoof in spaceballs "Darth Helmet" i think??? Reminds me of Dan Snyder

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 18, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

cat posted his suicide manifesto, its like something frak/corky would write.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 3:25 PM |

Dude should get hazardous duty pay to work in a place like IRS or the Post Office.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Nah - I'm plotting something big for the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo...

Herds of cows let loose on I-10!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 18, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be great if all of the DB's went to train with DG? I hope Tryon goes back and gets some more. I think he's close to being a starter and another offseason training with the Sensei of DB's would help him immensely.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 3:22 PM

There's a name for the guy who trains all the DB's: Coach.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

3. Shan should make turnover improvement Has' number one priority. Has and his staff have to study film and figure it out. They may find that Rog and Land are so fried that they have to be off-loaded and to that I say "so be it".

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 3:22 PM

Big, might be that they find Rog and Land aren't fried and might be a better fit in Has' system ... regardless, sure hope Has and Shan hang onto Or and Hay, and that either Dough or Hor makes another step up to be the strong.

Posted by: dcsween | February 18, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The 4th pick is too high IMO for either QB. IF Lefevor is there in the 4th RD, I take him. Otherwise wait until next year and there could be 5 guys better in Locker, Lucky, Ponder, Devine, & Mallett.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 17, 2010 5:19 PM |

A couple of comments about this.

1. Lucky? You must mean Andrew Luck, Stan QB.

2. Devine? Only Devine I know is Knowel and he's a WVU RB, not a QB.

3. Having corrected, so what you are saying is the Skins should forego Claus and Brad to have a shot at the QBs: Locker Room, Lady Luck, Ponder Scum and Mallett Head.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Nah - I'm plotting something big for the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo...

Herds of cows let loose on I-10!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 18, 2010 3:37 PM |

Heh, heh. The Texas Rangers would prob think they were terrorists and round them up and ship them off to Gitmo to be with Harold and Kumar.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Nah - I'm plotting something big for the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo...

Herds of cows let loose on I-10!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 18, 2010 3:37 PM

Looks like you already let herds of cows loose on RI. Round 'em up, JohnD and hitch them up to milking machines. Their udders are straining them.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be great if all of the DB's went to train with DG? I hope Tryon goes back and gets some more. I think he's close to being a starter and another offseason training with the Sensei of DB's would help him immensely.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 3:22 PM

There's a name for the guy who trains all the DB's: Coach.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 3:39 PM
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I don't think the coach can require his players to come practice during the offseason, except for OTA's. I hear what you are saying. I think Slowik will work out well as a defensive backs coach. I just think it would be great if the players took the initiative to get some extra help in the offseason. Hey, it worked for Tryon last year...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 4:19 PM

1. Yes Andrew Luck
2. Pat Devlin, must have had Noel Devine on the brain
3. Yes, 2011 is a much deeper and talented QB class.

Thanks for the corrections and the mediocre joke.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Nah - I'm plotting something big for the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo...

Herds of cows let loose on I-10!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 18, 2010 3:37 PM
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Don't get crazy now. In Texas half of the drivers would pull off and start target practice.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, now, they might not even stop their car...excuse me, truck...

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 18, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Jarmon should be focused on completing an NFL season

Posted by: pabrian2003 | February 18, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey, it worked for Tryon last year...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 18, 2010 4:26 PM

Yeah, he seems to have some magic, plus an aura. Guys want to be around him. Seems like he'd make a great coach, though that might be more -- or different -- work than he's up for.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast

Campbell not going down w/o a fight.

Posted by: TWISI | February 18, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

2. Pat Devlin, must have had Noel Devine on the brain

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 4:26 PM |

Curious you would have him on your list. Div I-AA school, stats not overly impressive.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Campbell's agent must be hitting the PR trail. Another post suggesting that the Skins shouldn't draft a QB at #4.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/02/18/thursday-and-long-redskins-shouldnt-be-drafting-a-qb/

Posted by: TWISI | February 18, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

twis, can you post the body of that piece??

thanks...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 18, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

need an o line or else doesn't matter what type of D we run

Posted by: pabrian2003 | February 18, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

here's another post saying we shouldn't draft a QB

we need an o line

Posted by: pabrian2003 | February 18, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

"I don't know about that. I just hope he'll(Jarmon) be able to play on that repaired knee this season."


"The second point is not accurate b/c he was going to be selected in the supplemental draft regardless..."

Looking forward, Jarmon, K Barnes, and some other young'n will hopefully 'step up' and deliver for the D next year the way Orakpo has.

If this draft--Allen's first--is offensive oriented, it means the guys who make up defensive depth we have have got to literally and figuratively earn their place at the table.

Jarmon and Barnes and Golston and Monty and Tyron and some other new guy in a new scheme is a plus.

You have to hope they get a chance to show us what they got.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

2. Pat Devlin, must have had Noel Devine on the brain

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 4:26 PM |

Curious you would have him on your list. Div I-AA school, stats not overly impressive.


The NFL is a copycat league, many are looking for Devlin to become the next Joe Flacco...As far as the JC article goes its good to see he is addressing his critics without throwing his teammates under the bus. CP could learn something.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | February 18, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast

Campbell not going down w/o a fight.

Posted by: TWISI | February 18, 2010 4:42 PM |

From that link:

"But until further notice, Campbell remains the starting quarterback of this team. He'll be an unrestricted free agent, which means he'll likely receive the highest contract tender of roughly $3.1 million."

Camp a UFA? Chrissakes, how did that happen?

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Pat Devlin 6'4 220

Numbers don't overwhelm but Delaware runs a pro style offense and not the 30-50 pass per game spread.

220-of-344 (64%), 2,664 yards passing, 16 passing touchdowns 9 interceptions, 84 carries, 127 yards rushing, 4 rushing touchdowns, 1.5 average, 2,791 yards of total offense, 11 games played.

Pat Devlin is a talented, big-armed quarterback who transferred from Penn State to Delaware. He' being projected as a potential 1st round pick in the 2011 draft.

He probably ranks just behind Locker, Mallett, Ponder, & Luck. My point is that the 2011 draft offers a better and deeper talent pool @ QB.

JC is a cheap 1 year stop gap until greater needs are met (OL). Less risk in drafting a OT # 4 overall and Locker and Bradford have entirely too many red flags.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Camp a UFA? Chrissakes, how did that happen?

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 4:54 PM |

So this d!ckhead ESPN analyst Matt Mossley thinks that the CBA will not be allowed to expire in 5 days when 99.9% of the rest of us think that the CBA is deader than King Tut. Good one Matty boy!

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 5:10 PM

It was a mistake by Mosley, he meant RFA. You can't tender a UFA.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

All philly sportscasters every week NO NOT pick the eagles to win every game that is NOT a FACT every now and then someone will pick them to lose(sometimes they do other times they don't). leave jarmon at de he has talent size and could turn into a good player.

Posted by: wathu19 | February 18, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

It was a mistake by Mosley, he meant RFA. You can't tender a UFA.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 5:18 PM |

If that was a mistake then his statement:

"which means he'll likely receive the highest contract tender of roughly $3.1 million"

could well be a mistake also. Many on this blog have said Camp would get a lowball tender offer of $1.7 M since the way the procedure works the Skins would get a 1st round draft pick with a lowball offer (since he was a 1st round draft pick). All in all it has the earmarks of a pretty pretty pretty smelly brain fart to me.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by Michael David Smith on February 18, 2010 5:48 PM ET

In the weeks since Mike Shanahan took over the Washington Redskins, multiple reports have suggested that he's planning to select a quarterback with the fourth pick in April's NFL draft. But Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell says that after talking to Shanahan, he believes he has a future in D.C.

"The plan is that I'm going to be here," Campbell told Matt Mosley of ESPN.com. "[Shanahan] told me that he liked how I'd handled everything over the past couple of years and the whole conversation was real positive."

Some fans and reporters have criticized Campbell for an inability to throw downfield consistently, but Campbell said that's not his fault. According to Campbell, he couldn't throw downfield in 2009 because he didn't have time to pass.

"I don't know how anyone can say something like that," Campbell said. "Don't you think I wanted to throw the ball downfield? By the time I looked up, I was getting hit. I'm certainly hoping we have an opportunity to make some big plays next season."

Campbell also noted that even in a bad year, "I was still able to put up one of my best seasons despite all the turmoil."

Of course, it could also be argued that after the Redskins went 4-12 in a season that Campbell describes as "one of my best," it makes sense for Shanahan to be thinking about finding a new quarterback.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

A quick Sharks Olympic update. The US beats Norway, 6-1. Shark Joe Pavelski gets 2 assists, including a terrific pass leading to the first goal, just over 2 minutes into the game.

Later today, Thornton, Marleau, Heatley and Boyle take to the ice for Canada while Nabakov and the Ruskies play in the late game.

And that's your midday Sharks Olympic update

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 18, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Of course, it could also be argued that after the Redskins went 4-12 in a season that Campbell describes as "one of my best," it makes sense for Shanahan to be thinking about finding a new quarterback.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 5:52 PM


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It does make sense. Remember the most important stat about a QB is his winning percentage! Even mofo analysts who've played the game bring this fact up.

A good QB does not get good by losing when you think about it.


(the following paragraph is directed at any retort)

And yes I know Football is a team sport and it's messed up how the winning percentage is associated solely with QB's, but hey, that's the way it is and I didn't make it that way so don't get mad at me. I'd rather not get into the Parent-to-Adolescent/Life-ain't-fair routine.

Posted by: Vicc | February 18, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

And that's your midday Sharks Olympic update

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 18, 2010 6:03 PM |

Gee thanks dude. These updates make my day.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Claussen inproved every year in college and played a pro style offense?! WOW

Campbell improved every year in collegees and in the pros and played a pro style offense and a pro offense, and has never been socked by a fan, and is the captain of a pro team

Posted by: pabrian2003 | February 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Do you really think he could piggy-back a team to a Super Bowl if he played thru the constant changes Snyder has inflicted on the Redskins? Or the sh*tshow in Oakland? Do you think he'd make the Jaguars a Super Bowl winner? He's definitely the centerpiece of that Colts offense, but for him to play at that level you have to have a damn good coaching staff and a truckload of talent.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 18, 2010 8:30 AM


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No, I actually don't think he or any one person could lead a team to the Superbowl. And I don't think you believe any one player could do that as well.

I will stay in character, though, and reiterate that the building blocks of a great franchise begin with the QB position.

If I were to post a list of all the QB's who've made the playoffs in the past 5 years. With the exception of a few teams with avg QB's getting hot at the right time, the list would still include the better QB's in the league who allow their team a chance at the post-season year in and year out.

Teams with terrible O-lines but good QB's still make the playoffs regularly. But teams with good O-lines and terrible QB's not so much.

Next years QB crop seems much better than this years and the possibility of scooping one in the first round next year seems likely, no matter where we are picking!

Just give the people what they want and select O-linemen! O-line O-line O-line. Caveat: don't be surprised if we build a decent O-line but see similar results with Campbell at QB!

Posted by: Vicc | February 18, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Good God...I'm so tired of this "poor Campbell" campaign. Matt Mosely's article on ESPN.com was the culprit!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 18, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

It was a mistake by Mosley, he meant RFA. You can't tender a UFA.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 5:18 PM |

If that was a mistake then his statement:

"which means he'll likely receive the highest contract tender of roughly $3.1 million"

could well be a mistake also. Many on this blog have said Camp would get a lowball tender offer of $1.7 M since the way the procedure works the Skins would get a 1st round draft pick with a lowball offer (since he was a 1st round draft pick). All in all it has the earmarks of a pretty pretty pretty smelly brain fart to me.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 5:36 PM |

Hee, hee. It a MistaMoe class smeller, ain't it.

Posted by: MrPink | February 18, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Next years QB crop seems much better than this years and the possibility of scooping one in the first round next year seems likely, no matter where we are picking!

Posted by: Vicc | February 18, 2010 6:36 PM |

Interesting statement. Next yrs QBs are "much better". Not just better, but "much better". Heh, heh.

Posted by: MrPink | February 18, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

And that's your midday Sharks Olympic update

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 18, 2010 6:03 PM |

Gee thanks dude. These updates make my day.

Posted by: BiggerVance | February 18, 2010 6:10 PM

Mine, too.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 18, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 18, 2010 8:11 PM

Z- I get the fact that you live in the Bay Area, you're probably a transplant.

If so...A Skins fan and not a Caps fan?


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

mr.pink

"Hee, hee. It a MistaMoe class smeller, ain't it."

Please remember to conjugate our verbs.

Correction: "It is a Mista Moe class smeller, isn't it?"

Simple contraction error coupled with a simpleton's ungrammatical use of the infinitive verb "to be".

Remember the 1st rule of being a clueless hater: It's hard to call someone an idiot when you sound like one yourself.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

"...watched 'Half Baked' the other night..."


Which is the best stoner comedy:

"Half Baked"

"Pineapple Express"

"Dude, Where's my car?"

"Undercover Brotha"

"Fast Times At Ridgemont High"

"Superbad"

"Knocked Up"

"Cuumming on America" (oooops, that's the porn title, so sorry)

"Coming to America"

I'd make a selection, but for whatever reason, I don't really remember seeing those films--even though I think I was in the theater where they played.

At least I think I was.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Moe-

I would have to add

Friday
Anchorman
Dumb and Dumber
The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona
Billy Madison
Tommy Boy

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

How could I forget:

Friday
Dumb and Dumber
The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona

Did you know that pointed-headed liberal scholarly types now say "The Big Lebowski" is some deep, metaphysical miasma of this and that and such and such when us lettered types just think it's funny?

And as for Friday, dude, what's better than:

"Yes, I'm Janet Jackson."

or

"Whatcha got to do today? It's Friday."

I'm too old to get my smoke on, but if I could I would.

Why?

'Cuz tomorrow's Friday (I'm taking a day off), and I ain't got nothin' to do all day.......

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

mr.pink

"Hee, hee. It a MistaMoe class smeller, ain't it."

Please remember to conjugate our verbs.

Correction: "It is a Mista Moe class smeller, isn't it?"

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 8:21 PM |

A couple of comments about this.

1. One is obligated to embrace the idiom of one's environs.

2. At least you didn't make an @ss of yourself the way this Cork character did. After reaming someone out for being ungrammmatical he signed off with an ungrammatical sentence of his own.

Posted by: MrPink | February 18, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

'Cuz tomorrow's Friday (I'm taking a day off), and I ain't got nothin' to do all day.......

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 8:48 PM

You got to be a stupid mothertrucker to get fired on your day off. Or...when Smokey wipes himself off and asks Craig if he still looks high.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe the insensitivity of Hollywood promoting a movie called
"Stutter Island".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I heard on Stutter Island Clinton Portis is the speech therapist

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 18, 2010 12:42 PM
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Mike Tyson is the bouncer at the Stutter Island bar.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Michael Palin from A Fish Called Wanda...just a guest there.

Posted by: RomoShortball | February 18, 2010 12:57 PM |

Hey, I remember seeing an old movie with an actor named Mel Tillis who had a pronounced stutter and it was used to comedic effect throughout the film. The real joke was that the dude was also an accomplished country singer that you never would have guessed had a speech impediment problem.

Posted by: MrPink | February 18, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

"You got to be a stupid mothertrucker to get fired on your day off......"

Nice Diesel. Great to see you back.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

glawr-

Yee haw good buddy, shepherd to lost sheep… I may disappear from time to time but I read just about everything on here. Every now and then you learn a little something.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

best stoner movie? come on people

"Up in Smoke" Cheech and Chong

What's the Immigration Service doing here, man?

My cousin needed a ride to his brother's wedding in Tijuana; so he called the Emigras, man. They'll deport the entire wedding party, man. They get a free bus ride across the border and lunch. When the wedding is over, man, they'll just come back across the border.

timeless & classic

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 9:44 PM

License plate..

MUF DVR

good call, noone

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

#2 stoner movie

"Dazed & Confused"

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

if you lived in the 70's and have not seen "Dazed & Confused" I highly recommend it.

Great "before they were famous" cast, including Ben Affleck, Adam Goldberg, Matthew McConaughey, Milla Jovovich, Joey Lauren Adams, and Parker Posey

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

"You got to be a stupid mothertrucker to get fired on your day off......"

Nice Diesel. Great to see you back.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 18, 2010 9:30 PM
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Fastest and most heartless firing of a 20+ person Sales Division.. True story.. My company scheduled a Christmas luncheon party, on a Friday, for the Sales Dept at a hotel in Tysons Corner. Once the sales department had left the office building for the party, the CEO announced some great news... Everyone else, in the company, was allowed (requested) to take the rest of the day off and go home early for the weekend/holidays.
Once the building was cleared, all sales personnel access key cards and cell phones were deactivated.
The complete operation took less than an hour. Cold...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

#2 stoner movie

"Dazed & Confused"

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 9:52 PM
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Sounds like Campbell and Zorn's pseudonyms for last season. (I know, I know, too easy)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 18, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Noone- another good call, can't put it #2 but it's in the conversation.

Wooderson-

Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some truckin' muscle.

All right, all right, all right.

Yeah, well, listen. You ought to ditch the two geeks you're in the car with now and get in with us. But that's all right, we'll worry about that later. I will see you there. All right?

The older you get, the more rules they are going to try and get you to follow. You just gotta keep on livin', man. L-I-V-I-N

Say, man, you got a joint?
No, not on me, man.
It'd be a lot cooler if you did.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Best layoff story I heard was

Big national company tells everyone there is an important offsite meeting. "Coordinators" are downstairs directing everyone to their appropriate bus. One set of buses head to meeting and other goes around block and drops people off back in front of building.

and you guessed it everyone who went to offsite meeting was laid off.

The other problem was due to the downtown location a high degree of people car or van pooled.

So about half the people had no ride home either from the offsite or from work.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

jarman is another ceratzo mistake.sure could have used that 3rd round pick this year for o line help.dump jarnee,diva thomas,sleepy davis,and al buttersworth good ridence.those kind of players wont help you win

Posted by: DLESMonday | February 18, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Best layoff that I was around for was

Company decided to layoff ~90 people, HR figured it would take about 15 minutes per person to process out, with 8 HR people 3 hours tops (8am to 11am).

We (IT) killed everyones access @ 6am that day. Well, it tooks about 7 hours to process everyone and watching people sitting there waiting for their name to be called over the intercom was painful.

There was one person whose nickname was village idiot, took him 2 hours to figure out he was one of the ones being laid off.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

There was one person whose nickname was village idiot, took him 2 hours to figure out he was one of the ones being laid off.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 10:35 PM

Well, I hope they at least paid him for those two hours of his time.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

There was one person whose nickname was village idiot, took him 2 hours to figure out he was one of the ones being laid off.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 10:35 PM

reminds me of this..

One of the Bob's: Looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately.
Peter Gibbons: I wouldn't say I've been *missing* it, Bob.

Or

Bill Lumbergh: Milt, we're gonna need to go ahead and move you downstairs into storage B. We have some new people coming in, and we need all the space we can get. So if you could just go ahead and pack up your stuff and move it down there, that would be terrific, OK?
Milton Waddams: Excuse me, I believe you have my stapler...

Office Space


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, I hope they at least paid him for those two hours of his time.

Posted by: League-Source | February 18, 2010 10:40 PM
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Unfortunately they did. The real bad part was the rotating schedule the team had set up for people to check his work each day so he didn't screw up anything too bad.

One of the funniest things was one day he came in and his code worked which it hadn't the day before (and he had spent all day trying to debug it).

He was thrilled and that became part of his process for hard problems, wait until the next day and see if it resolved itself.

Sometimes it did, sometimes not...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

PFT's Mock Draft

1. Rams: Ndamukong Suh, defensive tackle, Nebraska.
2. Lions: Russell Okung, tackle, Oklahoma State.
3. Buccaneers: Gerald McCoy, defensive tackle, Oklahoma.
4. Redskins: Eric Berry, defensive back, Tennessee.
5. Chiefs: Joe Haden, cornerback, Florida.
6. Seahawks: Sam Bradford, quarterback, Oklahoma.
7. Browns: Rolando McClain, linebacker, Alabama.
8. Raiders: Trent Williams, tackle, Oklahoma.
9. Bills: Derrick Morgan, defensive end, Georgia Tech.
10. Broncos: Jared Odrick, defensive tackle, Penn State.

With Clausen going #17 to the Titans.

I'd take Berry(Ed Reed) over noodle head Clausen or noodle arm Bradford.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Oakland 1st round 2010 blunder

JPP DE from USF

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

jarman is another ceratzo mistake.sure could have used that 3rd round pick this year for o line help.dump jarnee,diva thomas,sleepy davis,and al buttersworth good ridence.those kind of players wont help you win

Posted by: DLESMonday | February 18, 2010 10:30 PM |

Wow, where to begin...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow, where to begin...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 11:10 PM

KurtShammananhana and DLESMonday have got to be at the very least related.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Noone- another good call, can't put it #2 but it's in the conversation.

Wooderson-

Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some truckin' muscle.

All right, all right, all right.

Yeah, well, listen. You ought to ditch the two geeks you're in the car with now and get in with us. But that's all right, we'll worry about that later. I will see you there. All right?

The older you get, the more rules they are going to try and get you to follow. You just gotta keep on livin', man. L-I-V-I-N

Say, man, you got a joint?
No, not on me, man.
It'd be a lot cooler if you did.


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 10:14 PM |

...and of course the classic line from the movie

"That's what I like about them high school girls. I get older, they stay the same age. Yes they do."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Wow, where to begin...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 11:10 PM

KurtShammananhana and DLESMonday have got to be at the very least related.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 11:14 PM | Report

Don't forget perineum.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Best drug addled movie ever would have to be "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas," closely followed by "Nice Dreams."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

KurtShammananhana and DLESMonday have got to be at the very least related.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 11:14 PM | Report

Don't forget perineum.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 18, 2010 11:16 PM

He's nice enough to center and bold his text so that you can easily avoid reading it.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 19, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 18, 2010 8:11 PM

Z- I get the fact that you live in the Bay Area, you're probably a transplant.

If so...A Skins fan and not a Caps fan?


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 18, 2010 8:17 PM

Didn't know muck about hockey until college, where it was big. Came out here after that, so I didn't grow up with the Caps -- though Abe Pollin's kid was in my HS. When hockey came out to the Bay Area, I got on the bandwagon pretty quickly.

Now for the Sharks Olympic hockey, Day 3 summary.

Nabakov is getting the night off after winning game 1 for Russia. Marleau and Heatley scored Canada's goals in their win, each assisting the other. Pavelski had 2 assists in the USA's win.

And that is the Sharks Olympic update for Day 3.

fwiw, Sunday has Shark on Shark action when the USA plays Canada, but neither team has much on the line (just seeding), since both teams are already on to the 'playoff' round.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 19, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Best layoff story I heard was

Big national company tells everyone there is an important offsite meeting. "Coordinators" are downstairs directing everyone to their appropriate bus. One set of buses head to meeting and other goes around block and drops people off back in front of building.

and you guessed it everyone who went to offsite meeting was laid off.

The other problem was due to the downtown location a high degree of people car or van pooled.

So about half the people had no ride home either from the offsite or from work.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 18, 2010 10:21 PM
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noone.. thats sadly eff'n funny.
You could visualize the look of the employees in the back seat of the laid-off bus with their faces pressed against the back window watching the other bus just circle back to the office. Like lemmings to the cliff.
You'd have to imagine, though, as you got on the "loser" bus and looked around you that a light would come on pretty quick.. or, maybe not, given you're on the bus to begin with...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 19, 2010 4:02 AM | Report abuse

I like this Jarmon kid, think he'll be a good player. We'd be delighted with him as a 3rd round pick this year, which he is, only with a year's experience!

Fantasy free agents for the D; Wilfork, Dansby and Sharper.

Front 3 of Jarmon, Wilfork and Albert. Orakpo showing looks at DE and LB. Dansby, Rocky and London behind. Landry near the line to hit people, with Sharper behind quarterbacking the secondary until a younger FS can be acquired.

CBs tbc, I reckon Sharper could hold the current crop together until new talent is acquired.

Daniels, Wilson, Horton, Doughty and the rest as depth. Actually, let's get something for Landry (I'd like the 'Skins to have a pile of draft picks next year, for all the early leavers).

THEN DRAFT O-LINE!

Posted by: stevebeagrie | February 19, 2010 4:30 AM | Report abuse

Steve, Sharper is gonna get franchised if he doesn't get a long term deal between now and March 5th so you can forget about that. I'll lead the pitchfork-and-torch raid of Redskins Park if we give up a 1st round pick to get a 30-something safety when we have a dozen other needs that need addressing first.

My hope is that this team stays out of FA altogether and shifts focus to the draft. The only guy they have any business even sniffing around is Dansby.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 5:18 AM | Report abuse

Quick question; much has been made of Shanahan's preference for quick, athletic O-Linemen, but what about his D-Line? Plenty of jokes have been made about fat guys on the D-Line, but would he want that?

Also, the 'Skins bullied the life out of the Broncos' small, athletic O-Line last year. Given we play physical teams in our division (and don't have 8 home games at high altitude), would a lighter O-Line be a mistake for Washington?

Posted by: stevebeagrie | February 19, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

"Steve, Sharper is gonna get franchised if he doesn't get a long term deal between now and March 5th so you can forget about that. I'll lead the pitchfork-and-torch raid of Redskins Park if we give up a 1st round pick to get a 30-something safety when we have a dozen other needs that need addressing first.

My hope is that this team stays out of FA altogether and shifts focus to the draft. The only guy they have any business even sniffing around is Dansby.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 5:18 AM"

You're right, Brown. I was just indulging my inner-Snyder! Wilfork still is of interest, as is the NT of the 49ers, simply because of the shift to the 3-4.

I think they'll both be signed up as well, though, to the franchise tender, or a long-term deal (sighs).

Posted by: stevebeagrie | February 19, 2010 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Steve, I would think the whole NFC East thing is mostly overrated at this point...the Cowpies are a bit undersized in their front 7 (at least for a 3-4), the Giants aren't what they were 3 years ago defensively and that Eagles run a fairly similar offense and had a stretch where they basically ran the NFC East. So I would think that the Shanahan offense would be just fine here.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 6:12 AM | Report abuse

mr. pink

"One is obligated to embrace the idiom of one's environs."


It's all good, bro'.

Me?: I sound like an idiot because I am one.

If I was smart, I'd be running things in the Op-Ed blogs.

But they chased me out of that hell into this one.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 19, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Geez, this place is dead...not even a "trade Haynesworth for two 1st rounders" this morning...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Geez, this place is dead...not even a "trade Haynesworth for two 1st rounders" this morning...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

No man we want second rounders that's why we should trade Ladell Betts!!!

Seriously though, Ryan Mallett broke his foot. Maybe he'll drop a few spots in next year's draft.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 19, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone mention Reefer Madess in the best stoner movie discussion?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 19, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

No man we want second rounders that's why we should trade Ladell Betts!!!


Posted by: PAskinsfan17


Wow... no overvaluing our talent at all!!!
A second rounder for a 31-yo RB coming off of major knee surgery! What was in your Wheaties this morning?

FA Targets...
CB Dunta Robinson
OG Kuper
WR Walter

Because they played for our new coaches... they want familiarity and on field mentors (Walter) for the puppies!!!

Trades? We have very little young talent to offer up in a trade, sorry.

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Quick question; much has been made of Shanahan's preference for quick, athletic O-Linemen, but what about his D-Line? Plenty of jokes have been made about fat guys on the D-Line, but would he want that?

Also, the 'Skins bullied the life out of the Broncos' small, athletic O-Line last year. Given we play physical teams in our division (and don't have 8 home games at high altitude), would a lighter O-Line be a mistake for Washington?

Posted by: stevebeagrie | February 19, 2010 5:58 AM
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The Broncos offensive line today does not match up well with the type of offense that they are trying to run in Denver post-Shanahan. I think an offensive line that is lighter and focused more on downfield blocking will do okay when paired up with Shanny's offense. My question is how long are they going to take to get the pieces in line? I would say offensive line is the biggest need with the transition to Shanny's style of offense, and I hope they are very aggressive in getting the players they need.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 19, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Wow... no overvaluing our talent at all!!!
A second rounder for a 31-yo RB coming off of major knee surgery! What was in your Wheaties this morning?

FA Targets...
CB Dunta Robinson
OG Kuper
WR Walter

Because they played for our new coaches... they want familiarity and on field mentors (Walter) for the puppies!!!

Trades? We have very little young talent to offer up in a trade, sorry.

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Ongoing jokes on RI:

A) 2nd rounder for Betts
2) WR-TE-WR
%) Maps!

What else?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 19, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

The Broncos offensive line today does not match up well with the type of offense that they are trying to run in Denver post-Shanahan..... I would say offensive line is the biggest need with the transition to Shanny's style of offense, and I hope they are very aggressive in getting the players they need.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 19, 2010 9:34 AM

Consider it done. BeantownGreg posted that story from PFT last week that the Redskins were trading their entire O Line for Denver's. Plus, since it's Denver, we're also throwing in our second round pick.

I couldn't believe it, but since Beans posted it from PFT it has to be at least as true as that stuff RedDMV posts up here about his big Scud missile.

Posted by: League-Source | February 19, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

No man we want second rounders that's why we should trade Ladell Betts!!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17

Wow... no overvaluing our talent at all!!!
A second rounder for a 31-yo RB coming off of major knee surgery! What was in your Wheaties this morning?

FA Targets...
CB Dunta Robinson
OG Kuper
WR Walter

Because they played for our new coaches... they want familiarity and on field mentors (Walter) for the puppies!!!

Trades? We have very little young talent to offer up in a trade, sorry.

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 9:32 AM
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Ease up. PASkin meant second round in the Arena Football League.

I agree with getting players in that are familiar with the offense: they're like extra coaches on the field. Dunta Robinsons doesn't fit; however. He never played in a Haslett defense and IMO the Redskins don't need another corner.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 19, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

CAMPBELL MEETS WITH SHANNY

In the weeks since Mike Shanahan took over the Washington Redskins, multiple reports have suggested that he's planning to select a quarterback with the fourth pick in April's NFL draft. But Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell says that after talking to Shanahan, he believes he has a future in D.C.

"The plan is that I'm going to be here," Campbell told Matt Mosley of ESPN.com. "[Shanahan] told me that he liked how I'd handled everything over the past couple of years and the whole conversation was real positive."

Some fans and reporters have criticized Campbell for an inability to throw downfield consistently, but Campbell said that's not his fault. According to Campbell, he couldn't throw downfield in 2009 because he didn't have time to pass.

"I don't know how anyone can say something like that," Campbell said. "Don't you think I wanted to throw the ball downfield? By the time I looked up, I was getting hit. I'm certainly hoping we have an opportunity to make some big plays next season."

Campbell also noted that even in a bad year, "I was still able to put up one of my best seasons despite all the turmoil."
____________________________________________

OK, claiming he had "one of my best seasons" would serve to verify that JC17 did take some severe head shots this year.

I am glad there seems to be some meeting time behind the scenes that could steer the team away from selecting an undeserving QB with the number 4 pick...

Okung or Davis... PLEAS!!!

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

The Broncos offensive line today does not match up well with the type of offense that they are trying to run in Denver post-Shanahan..... I would say offensive line is the biggest need with the transition to Shanny's style of offense, and I hope they are very aggressive in getting the players they need.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 19, 2010 9:34 AM

Consider it done. BeantownGreg posted that story from PFT last week that the Redskins were trading their entire O Line for Denver's. Plus, since it's Denver, we're also throwing in our second round pick.

I couldn't believe it, but since Beans posted it from PFT it has to be at least as true as that stuff RedDMV posts up here about his big Scud missile.

Posted by: League-Source | February 19, 2010 9:40 AM
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Well, we all know that we can book it now. I guess the offensive line worry is over and the Celtics are going to win the Championship. As far as Red's SCUD missile, remember those SCUDS had a bad reputation for falling "short" of the target...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 19, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

The "Mayor" really blows at this. No new updates. Are you telling me he can't write at least something about our moves in FA or in the Draft. Clearly La Canfora was better at this job. Despite his fictional sources, he at least provided updates to promote conversation and debate.

Posted by: Devo2 | February 19, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

OK, claiming he had "one of my best seasons" would serve to verify that JC17 did take some severe head shots this year.

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 9:47 AM


Not looking to open up the tired debate all over again, but look at the numbers...he's right:

http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Dude, it's a joke. Betts for a second rounder will become a meme. I post that every now and then to make fun of the madden GMs around here.

I disagree on Robinson. I think he'll want too much money and quite frankly I'd rather wait and see how our in house guys turn out. We aren't going to contend next year or anytime soon so I don't think we absolutely need a stud CB right now.

I do agree on Chris Kuper though but I think he's restricted.

Vince Wilfork should be given an offer by NE. If not then we need to jump on him like a WoW nerd on a bag of Cheetos.

I think we should also pay attention to what happens at left tackle in New Orleans. I doubt they'll keep both Bushrod and Brown. The only question will be what they want in return. There will be so many restricted free agents this year that if they tender both of them they may get stuck with both of them.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 19, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Not looking to open up the tired debate all over again, but look at the numbers...he's right:

http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235

Posted by: brownwood26

You are kidding right? How many games did he lead the team to victory versus a loss? This isn't baseball where all the stat geeks can feast on all sorts of odd stats.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Not looking to open up the tired debate all over again, but look at the numbers...he's right:

http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235

Posted by: brownwood2

bwood2 -

THE stats that matter to me are W's and L's... he has an overall losing record (no, not all his fault)... and to me a bigger stat, how many games in his tenure have the Skins won BECAUSE of JC? Any 4th quarter rallies that come to mind? Last minute drives? Stats acquired between the 20's mean little to nothing...

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

1965skinsfan and bschaef12,

I've said this a million times...you win and lose as a TEAM. Assigning a W/L record to a single player is the stupidest thing you could possibly do in football. By that same logic, you should call Orakpo a bust since the Redskins have only won 4 games since drafting him.

Jason Campbell is not a QB that can win games by himself. Anyone who faults him for that lives in a fantasy world. He is what he is, but I do think if you stock the cupboard for him, he can play well enough to help win some games for you.

Once again, the quote was "I was still able to put up one of my best seasons despite all the turmoil". If you look at the stats, that's absolutely true. Just because that wasn't enough to save an already lost season, doesn't make it any less true.


Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Stop it. No. Bad RI posters. No more JC debate. Any furthur JC debating will get you put on the Bama list.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 19, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

YES!!! I love the JC sucks/no he doesn't debate...that horse not only has not only died, and been beaten to death but its turned to dust and blown away in the wind...
suggested topics of discussion:
A. Pierce, and when he'll resign
F. Davis, why did he oversleep 2 years ago?
go.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 19, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Sneak previews tonight nationwide, don't miss it.

http://saintjohnmovie.com/

Also, did you guys already start chattering up Florio's mock draft where he has the Skins taking Eric Berry at #4?

Given that we have two viable QBs on the roster and that there are seven-eight viable LTs, I would not scream OH MY VINNY! if the Shanahan/Owner/Allen group ended up with Ed Reed, Jr. at #4. Skins need a legitimate free safety.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I'm disappointed, Greg...I was hoping we could work in the Ryan Clark debate too...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Tiger Tiger Woods Y'all....

(With a Chris Rock Smile)

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 19, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone mention Reefer Madess in the best stoner movie discussion?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 19, 2010 9:31 AM

Its not even that good of a movie; its more relevant for a history class. The superior motion picture for the purposes you describe are any of the Baby Einsteins. Same effect accomplished without actually having to be stoned. Hypnotic really.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Also, did you guys already start chattering up Florio's mock draft where he has the Skins taking Eric Berry at #4?

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:25 AM

This is the same Florio who picked the 'Skins to win the Super Bowl last year. BeantownGreg couldn't make this stuff up.

Posted by: League-Source | February 19, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Once again, the quote was "I was still able to put up one of my best seasons despite all the turmoil". If you look at the stats, that's absolutely true. Just because that wasn't enough to save an already lost season, doesn't make it any less true.


Posted by: brownwood26


NO disrespect for JC... sorry to rile... It's funny hearing him actually speak out. I am actually a fan and believe most of the faults are a function of the lack of time he has to throw... my only but is the inside the red zone lack of efficiency... nada mas...

And as for Dunta Robinson not fitting in a Halett D... when and where doesn't a cover corner fit? A bit 'o help on that puhleeze!

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

By suggesting that I would not jump off a bridge if the Skins drafted Eric Berry, I meant to say that there are really three vital pieces of the operation that require replacement in terms of former dominance: Chris Samuels; Clinton Portis; and Sean Taylor. Given that Portis is still here and that RBs don't have a long shelf life (and that there IS quality in later rounds), to me that means that replacing Samuels and Sean Taylor should be the #1 and #2 picks (irrespective of order). That said, Randy Thomas needs to be replaced as well. [I figure that Orakpo will have to do for the time being to replace Marcus Washington.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I've already posted several times that if JC has a stud O-line, and two stud RB's and good WR's and a simple O to run, he can be average. That is what he is and why he was a success at Auburn. Stats for individual players in Football only help/hurt a player trying to get paid. Orakpo is a good player, not great.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Impossible we draft Berry....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 19, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Trying to force the conversation back to Eric Berry ... the Chiefs need a safety, but so do other teams (quite a few) ... which means that there might be teams that recognize Berry as the second coming of Ed Reed that he is ... and thus being interested in TRADING with the Skins for the #4 pick ... in order to keep the Chiefs from picking him.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Orakpo is a good player, not great.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 10:33 AM

Yeah, it's easy to rule out greatness after a guy's played his first 16 games. If he's not great as a rookie, he'll never be great. Orakpo was lucky to make the team, much less to start.

Posted by: League-Source | February 19, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Impossible we draft Berry....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 19, 2010 10:44 AM

Disregardless, the word you're looking for is "unpossible".

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Which is the best stoner comedy:

"Half Baked"

"Pineapple Express"

"Dude, Where's my car?"

"Undercover Brotha"

"Fast Times At Ridgemont High"

"Superbad"

"Knocked Up"

"Cuumming on America" (oooops, that's the porn title, so sorry)

"Coming to America"


I'd make a selection, but for whatever reason, I don't really remember seeing those films--even though I think I was in the theater where they played.

At least I think I was.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 18, 2010 8:31 PM

Sorry I missed the discussion last night.

Did you ever see Smiley Face?

Posted by: skinfanman | February 19, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

That Camp piece that Matt Moosely did on the ESPN NFL East blog was an abomination. It was up there with a MistaMoe post on one of his bad days.

1. He said that Camp would be a UFA. He won't be unless H freezes over and the onion and the league come up with a new CBA in the next few days.

2. He said that Camp will get a $3.1 M tender. He won't. The Skins will lowball him so he will be a more appealing trade prospect when the tender converts (no team is going to show him an offer sheet and lose a 1st round draft pick).

3. Moosely pulled out his violin and did a hearts-and-flowers number on Camp's plight. But his plight is justified if you look at the facts: (a) Shan doesn't want the dud because he is i. not an accurate passer and ii. doesn't have leadership talent and (b) he did not have a very good year since i. the Skins were 4-12 with one of the softest skeds - it were so soft it got them the #4 draft pick over KC and ii. he showed no signs of being a difference maker, espec against these NFL Europe teams like StL and Det.

Posted by: GasFace | February 19, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

LS,

He get's abused in coverage and is therefore a good player at LB. Perhaps I should have been a bit clearer. Never said he barely made the team or he has no shot at being great. Somebody make fun of you as a child?

Wish we had a season to judge him as a D-linemen only.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

GasFace, you did well until you got to 3. Did you just have a stroke mid-post or something?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 19, 2010 9:51 AM |

Dude - what happened to your cousin, REDneckSKINhead? Ain't seen a post of his in a Blue Moon.

Posted by: GasFace | February 19, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

And as for Dunta Robinson not fitting in a Halett D... when and where doesn't a cover corner fit? A bit 'o help on that puhleeze!

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 19, 2010 10:29 AM

I read somewhere, and wait for it, the stats showed that Dunta was one of the worst CBs for the first half of the last year. He did improve his play in the second half. Maybe his holdout had to do with his play last season. Then again, maybe not.

Posted by: TWISI | February 19, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

So maybe not Berry, but the Skins do need a free safety too ... and other teams will recognize that the guy is a top five talent so its really a matter of being the team who picks before the team that would pick him in order to be the trade partner. [Pioli is in KC rather than STL, right? Those two team have mushed together in my mind lately.]

Anyway, found this (and I agree that we have "concerns" at safety):

Washington Redskins: OT, QB, SLB, RB, OG, C

Considering the direction the team was headed a few years ago, moving in an offensive direction with a 1st round quarterback and expensive free agent acquisitions, the defense is the unit ready to compete on a weekly basis. The Skins have done a nice job acquiring defensive talent – through free agency and the draft – and have put together above average unit that plays the run and pass fairly well. They have some concerns at safety and at strongside linebacker, but those are the only real areas of weakness. Brian Orakpo did a nice job playing the latter before moving to defensive end later in the year, his natural position. On offense, the Redskins must first improve the offensive line before they can even begin to address the quarterback situation. Campbell is an average quarterback, but not a terrific leader and not capable of making plays behind such a porous offensive line. Both tackle positions needs to be addressed. Chris Samuels will decide his future in February after suffering a serious neck injury that forced him to the Injured Reserve. Even with Samuels, they need a future to look forward to at left tackle. At right tackle, Stephon Heyer ranks near the bottom of the league as a starter. At right guard, Mike Williams has played better than expected, but is not a great pass blocker. Center Casey Rabach is also having a bad year. To make matters worse, the many miles on Clinton Portis may finally be catching up to him as he approaches the frightening age of 30, leaving running back as another position of necessity. He’s scheduled to make an average of over $8 million per year over the next four, which would mean he’s going to need to produce, restructure, or face the axe in the upcoming years.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/needs/nfceast.html

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Not looking to open up the tired debate all over again, but look at the numbers...he's right:

http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235

Posted by: brownwood26

You are kidding right? How many games did he lead the team to victory versus a loss? This isn't baseball where all the stat geeks can feast on all sorts of odd stats.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 10:05 AM
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pretty funny link brownie.. The feature video on JC's NFL.Com profile is one of his fumbles.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 19, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I think I missed the Mosely discussion ... is Camp the Q on the team coached by Shan and Has (the team that has Rog and Land in the sec)?

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I guess that it is theoretically possible that any team that recognizes Berry's talent would believe that there is no F ing way that the Chiefs would pick a safety (and therefore wouldn't trade up to get the Skins' spot at #4).
________

Kansas City Chiefs: OT, OG, 3-4 OLB, WR, 3-4 NT, C, S

The league’s worst offensive line resides in Kansas City and their struggles are exaggerated by a largely ineffective running game through the early season and the inability of QB Matt Cassel to get rid of the ball quickly. Branden Albert has taken a step back in his second season, which brings back the options of moving him inside to left guard or to the other side at right tackle, depending on whether or not they can find a suitable left tackle this year. In addition to solving the tackle problem, the Chiefs also need to find a new guard and center, two positions of growing need. At 32, Brian Waters is finally starting to show signs of regression. The skill positions are relatively okay in comparison to the line. Chambers had no success in San Diego which makes me believe he should stick around for another couple years here in a good system that has allowed him to prodouce well. Still, depth at wide receiver will remain an issue. Defensively, the Chiefs are still more than a year out from turning around. A better nose tackle than Dwan Edwards, who is a great rotational player, coupled with the improvement of the two high-priced, young defensive ends could make that turnaround quicker. A pass rusher opposite Tamba Hali could also help speed up the process. In the secondary, Brandon Flowers is underrated and the corners have some potential to them, but were shaky this year.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/needs/afcwest.html

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

The Skins need to purge themselves of a few old vets and endure a couple more painful seasons, kind of like the Wizards have done. They are not, (contray to the rabidly loyal and blind fan base) close to competing for a SB.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

The Tiger Woods Conference reminds me of a MadTV skit...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 19, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The "Mayor" really blows at this. No new updates. Are you telling me he can't write at least something about our moves in FA or in the Draft. Clearly La Canfora was better at this job. Despite his fictional sources, he at least provided updates to promote conversation and debate.

Posted by: Devo2 | February 19, 2010 9:53 AM
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He may be with JC at pilates class.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 19, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

4th, its a JOKE...."elin never hit me"...I mean, whats the point of the whole thing??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 19, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Sorry I am late on this (and someone may have already said it, but

Cheech & Chong’s Up In Smoke = best stoner movie ever

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 19, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

The Tiger Woods Conference reminds me of a MadTV skit...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 19, 2010 11:04 AM


For real. It's actually more like one of those 8th grade book reports that the teacher makes you read up front. Only 8th graders tend to read a little bit better than this...

I mean really...did he read this BEFORE he stepped to the podium?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Right Greg...that's why he's not taking questions. Because the follow up to the "Elin never hit me" crock is logically, "Tiger: then who was the hot blonde taking a nine-iron to your Escalade?"

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Alright RI Nation, save up for your Dansby #58 jerseys:

Dansby definitely will hit the market
Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2010 10:52 AM ET
To no surprise, Cardinals linebacker Karlos Dansby will become an unrestricted free agent two weeks from today.

Bob McManaman of the Arizona Republic reports that the team privately has confirmed that the franchise tag will not be used on Dansby for a third straight year. Under the labor agreement, the Cardinals would have been required to offer Dansby a one-year deal with equal to the average 2009 pay of the five highest-paid players in the league. As we recently calculated it, the figure would be a whopping $16.8 million.

With no salary cap and with a limited number of free agents in comparison to past years, Dansby could find himself in demand.

If, that is, teams are willing to spend when both the salary cap and the salary floor disappear.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

The Skins need to purge themselves of a few old vets and endure a couple more painful seasons, kind of like the Wizards have done. They are not, (contray to the rabidly loyal and blind fan base) close to competing for a SB.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 11:01 AM
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Or better, Bruce Allen needs to go dumpster diving outside Parcell's office in south beach for his discarded scouting notes...

Miami went from worst to near first (playoffs) Parcell's first year. The Chad Pennington acquisition didnt hurt, either.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 19, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

not sure he's got the right to lecture anyone at this point....you reap, what you sew....bang porn stars bareback, and get caught, and, sorry, whatever happens to you, you've brought on yourself.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 19, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Who the heck wants a Giants jersey?

I'm kidding but I do think the Giants are going to outbid us for him. They missed out on Haynesworth and need help badly. Kiwi is pooping the bed.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 19, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

100% agree, Greg. Sure it sucks for Tiger, but ultimately Tiger only has Tiger to blame. The paparazzi and the media didn't treat you any different than they do anyone else.

Well, except for Michael Jordan.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Sorry I am late on this (and someone may have already said it, but

Cheech & Chong’s Up In Smoke = best stoner movie ever

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 19, 2010 11:08 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_film

Posted by: skinfanman | February 19, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Tiger is trying to blame the media? Wow.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 19, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

The Skins need to purge themselves of a few old vets and endure a couple more painful seasons, ...

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 19, 2010 11:01 AM

The Owner and the fan base (esp. up here) are fully prepared to embrace a couple more painful seasons ... yeah right!

Also, Harold and Kumar movies > Cheech and Chong movies

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

YES!!! I love the JC sucks/no he doesn't debate...that horse not only has not only died, and been beaten to death but its turned to dust and blown away in the wind...
suggested topics of discussion:
A. Pierce, and when he'll resign
F. Davis, why did he oversleep 2 years ago?
go.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

What? No trade for Boldin?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 19, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

you reap, what you sew....bang porn stars bareback....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 19, 2010 11:17 AM


Technically, I think you wear what you sew and you reap what you sow.

But, yeah, nothing wrong with sowing or reaping porn stars unless your wife objects. Or if the porn stars object, too.

Posted by: League-Source | February 19, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

You're right Sween, plus it's unfair to compare football and basketball. In basketball, the same 5 or 6 teams stay in the elite. So owners know that unless you're one of those teams, you won't win sh*t unless you take your lumps for a few years and work your way up after building a good young roster.

In football, there's more parity and more of a chance to make a move from worst to first. And owners usually expect that kind of rise.

That said, this team does need to get rid of the old, expensive players here and build this thing right. Just don't think you'll get 5 years to do it like the Wizards will.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 19, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

you reap, what you sew....bang porn stars bareback....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 19, 2010 11:17 AM


Technically, I think you wear what you sew and you reap what you sow.

But, yeah, nothing wrong with sowing or reaping porn stars unless your wife objects. Or if the porn stars object, too.


Posted by: League-Source | February 19, 2010 11:30 AM

I feel compelled to state I don't feel so "Galactically stupid" anymore.

Posted by: sthai75 | February 19, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The other candidate trade partner for the #4 spot is Kansas City itself. They have to know that the Skins NEED an offensive tackle more than Skins need a QB ... and the Chiefs desperately need a left tackle. Its not hard for them to guess that we might pick Okung ... and if they are sold on him (and unwilling to pay #5 money to the next guy on their list), Skins might be able to swap #4 for #5 (and possibly pick up a ham sandwich in the deal).

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

sthai, not used to that feeling are ya.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 19, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

we all have our moments bean.

Posted by: sthai75 | February 19, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The other candidate trade partner for the #4 spot is Kansas City itself. They have to know that the Skins NEED an offensive tackle more than Skins need a QB ... and the Chiefs desperately need a left tackle. Its not hard for them to guess that we might pick Okung ... and if they are sold on him (and unwilling to pay #5 money to the next guy on their list), Skins might be able to swap #4 for #5 (and possibly pick up a ham sandwich in the deal).

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

This is where the trade vlaue chart goes out the window. According to the chart we would only be entitled to their 4th round pick but this draft isn't the typical draft. There typically isn't more than 2-3 must have guys in 1 draft but in this one there are 4-5. Our pick becomes much more valuable and the disparity between the #4 and #5 pick is pretty significant this year. The cost of moving up one spot to a top 3 spot is 400 points. The cost of moving up 1 spot to 4th is only 100 points. I'd argue that since more juniors came out that 100 points isn't enough. I'd ask for their later 2nd rounder(#50 overall 400 points) in order to move up. If they say no then I'd take Okung. If they say yes then I'd take Bulaga at #5 and a guard and running back in the second.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 19, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't know, thinking about it now I'd probably pass on Bulaga at #5 and grab the best LT in the second round. I'd probably take Eric Berry at #5 overall then and hope that Charles Brown or someone similar falls into round 2.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 19, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Tiger Woods' TV appearance today was a joke. It was scripted, especially the speech he delivered where he tried to act as though he were speaking from the heart but totally failed to connect emotionally. He should have just had an open press conference and taken the heat in order to demonstrate true repenetance. He doesn't appreciate the immensity of the hit his public image has taken. Especailly when he started babbling about his foundation. Dude - the foundation, charity, do-something-uplifting-for-the-kids days are done. It just isn't possible to have anything to do with a positive-message-for-youth shtick when you have boned upwards of twenty babes, regardless of how contrite you say you are. Shut the foundation down and give the money to some charity that can do some real good.

Posted by: GasFace | February 19, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with a 4-3 front? The front isn't the problem.

And sorry, but Jarmon (4.78 40) is not a linebacker, even after dropping 15 lbs. The pick only makes sense if he takes over for Daniels with some meat on his bones.

Maybe we could use a guy like, say, I don't know . . . Cody Glenn - the Colts linebacker that we drafted in the 5th round in 2009 - who played in the super bowl and made a couple of nice tackles.

And don't get me started on Jeremy Bridges.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | February 19, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Don't know why you all are in a sate of disbelief that Tiger's press conference came off as scripted and otherwise what you thought it wouldn't be.

This dude has an ego bigger than Kobe and LeBron combined. Did you really think he was going to confess how sorry he was about it all? Or give every detail of the events that transpired on that night and leading up to it?

We all knew that it was going to be scripted and that he wouldn't take any questions.... BFD.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 19, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Excerpts from the Jim Hasslett interview over on Redskins.com

Haslett, who replaced the now-retired Greg Blache, says the Redskins’ defense will be aggressive and disciplined and put an emphasis on forcing turnovers.

Haslett emphasized that no decision has been made whether he will employ a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive alignment

Haslett said Orakpo would continue to be used as a pass rusher in his defense. “He had 11 sacks, but he didn’t [force] any turnovers, he didn’t get any balls out. He’s left-handed and we have to teach him to chop. He rushed [the quarterback] 400 times last season, I think if we can get him up to 800 times, the sky is the limit.”


I told him (Haynesworth) this the other day, ‘Don’t worry about what position you’re playing, you could play the nose, you could play end, you could play linebacker.

“He’s (Haynesworth's) a talented enough guy that he could probably do almost anything he wants. We’ll put him in the best position, to take advantage of the best of his qualities, and obviously what’s best for this football team. I think he would be scary if he was on a center or a weak guard.”

Posted by: TWISI | February 19, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | February 19, 2010 12:53 PM |

Dude - did you that they had the first annual Stoneface Games last week in some porn movie house in the Valley and your guy Camp took 1st place.

Posted by: GasFace | February 19, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Haslett said Orakpo would continue to be used as a pass rusher in his defense. “He had 11 sacks, but he didn’t [force] any turnovers, he didn’t get any balls out. He’s left-handed and we have to teach him to chop. He rushed [the quarterback] 400 times last season, I think if we can get him up to 800 times, the sky is the limit.”

So, he wants Orakpo to rush the QB 50 times a game? I guess he wants him on the line, then.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 19, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | February 19, 2010 12:53 PM |

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Ain't nuthin knew here.

Posted by: GasFace | February 19, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"What's wrong with a 4-3 front? The front isn't the problem.And sorry, but Jarmon (4.78 40) is not a linebacker, even after dropping 15 lbs. The pick only makes sense if he takes over for Daniels with some meat on his bones."

I don't follow this reasoning. Jarmon would be just fine as a rush LB in a 3-4 scheme. Daniels is a glorified tackle with a knack for batting down passes.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 19, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Seriously...what does J Reid do all day? He surely isn't getting any 'Insider' information. Everything he posts is regurgetated from some other news outlet our source.

I need his job, do nothing and get paid for it.

At this point I'd even take a story on what job offerings Vinny Cerrato has been passed on.

I wonder where he'll end up and what he'll end up doing?

B rated horror flicks scaring the locals with his Buggy Eyes and Matted Hair...?

Posted by: Devo2 | February 19, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Reid is probably watching the Olympics, like a lot of other Americans.

There won't be any vital info to share until FA begins, and then the draft. Although even the draft is going to be anticlmactic. They're either going to draft Clausen (if he's there) or Bradford (if the Rams take Clausen).

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 19, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

It's deader than Abe Lincoln in this peace.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 19, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

You know the drill, Red... if you're going to complain about the deadness Up Here you gotta offer up a new topic to get things going.... let's hear it, brother.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 19, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

So, he wants Orakpo to rush the QB 50 times a game? I guess he wants him on the line, then.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 19, 2010 1:05 PM

Or the rush OLB in a 3-4 similar to Ware and Harrison.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 19, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The perils of being a golfer who is a sex addict. When the dude says he will need a break after 9 holes we don't know if:

a. after playing 9 holes the dude will need to take a break to bone a babe

or

b. after boning 9 babes the dude will need a blow - even sex addicts have their limits.

Posted by: GasFace | February 19, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

It's deader than Abe Lincoln in this peace.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 19, 2010 2:23 PM |

How about deader than King Tut? And the word is piece, not peace. But in a sense it is a peace, you know. No dudes flamin on other dudes.

Posted by: GasFace | February 19, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Schefter on Bush's 2010 destination
11:18
AM ETReggie Bush | Saints | Interested: Cowboys?, Redskins?, Lions?, Titans?, Seahawks?, 49ers? Top Email

It would appear that Bush is more valuable to Sean Payton and the Saints than he would be for some other teams; on the other hand, is he really worth his full-contracted rate of $8 million for 2010? Peter King has opined that the team will pay him his full $8 million instead of running the risk of losing him.

If Bush somehow hits the market, the teams that could go after him include the Seahawks, 49ers, Titans and Lions. What about a trade? Some teams might scoff at the $8 million contracted salary, but the NFL's version of the Red Sox and Yankees would not. Based on owner Daniel Snyder's free-spending habits, we would be remiss not to include the Redskins in this trade group, and although he doesn't spend to the same degree as Snyder, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has proven to be a man that won't shy away based solely on a player's salary demands. Both teams could use the massive upgrade in the return game, and the Skins would appreciate the help in the backfield.

This article may provide for a bit o discussion. Bush for Portis? I would do it in a heartbeat, I dont think the Saints are that foolish

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | February 19, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | February 19, 2010 3:01 PM

Not sure why the Cowboys would be linked to Bush. Jones, Barber, & Choice at RB and Crayton and Jones as PR/KR.

I guess it was the only way he could use his stupid analogy comparing us and the Cowboys with the Sox and Yanks.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 19, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Diesel; as a very hard core fan of the 'Skins, my exposure to the 3-4 is very limited

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 19, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather trade for Pierre Thomas than Bush. But we don't have the players and can't afford draft picks to swing trades. Gotta build this thing through FA and the draft.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | February 19, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

PASkinsFan, I imagine every team has its own trade value chart based on its ranking of every player in the draft ... the fabled chart (Jimmy Johnson?) is a decade plus years old by now. I'm guessing its more finely calibrated nowadays. For example, I know a guy who used to gladly offer to pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today, but nowadays there's all sort of escalators and interest rate points and derivatives and market baskets and spiders and what not, the guy just has to steal outright.

KingJJ ... maybe its just my sense about the NFC East, but Bush seems like he would have more suitors in mushier cities. I could see Pete Carroll trying to get his band back together ... spreading it around and whatnot. [Also, I can't see Hasselbeck being the starter there another year unless he beats out some serious competition that they bring in ... he isn't performing at the levels required of his post-Super Bowl contract ... I'm not even sure he stays on the team ... but I recognize that he nothing to do with Reggie Bush.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Not sure about Bush... but have been wondering if "Fast" Willie Parker might find himself in burgandy and gold before the spring practices. Has lost a step, true, but still better than at least half of the incumbents

Posted by: Vic1 | February 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | February 19, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I found this on the UrbanDictionary.com....

The Alabma Retort to the DC Slang word 'Bama'......

BAMA 210 up, 195 down

A wonderful Southern state. From Huntsville in the north to Mobile in the south, Alabama has a lot to offer. The entire state is steeped in history, with a lot of civil rights precedents set in Montgomery. Home to University of Alabama, which provides great SEC football year after year. Head down to the gulf shores, and relax as warm breezes blow in off the Gulf of Mexico. Everyone here is friendly and happy, unlike most parts of the United States. I see how some people have taken to saying BAMA as a sign of disrespect, mainly in the Washington DC area. That's fine.. keep your silly perceptions. I would much rather be sipping a margarita on the beach in Mobile instead of dodging bullets in DC. The only thing in DC is criminals and politicians..so just more criminals. All you yankees can stay up north, noone wants you down here anyways. God bless Alabama!

Washington DC resident: Damn it's cold. I can't even get out to shovel my driveway with all the bullets flying around.

Alabama resisdent: Gee, that's too bad. I'm gonna head down to the beach and watch the hotties in their bikinis walk by. Hey bartender, bring us another pitcher of margaritas.

GO BAMA... ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 19, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

You know the drill, Red... if you're going to complain about the deadness Up Here you gotta offer up a new topic to get things going ... let's hear it, brother.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 19, 2010 2:27 PM

Public self-flaggelation rankings ... who pulled it off v. who didn't ...

Bill Clinton (has he said he was sorry yet?)
Tiger Woods
David Letterman
David Vitter
Eliot Spitzer
Martha Stewart
Mark McGwire
John Edwards
Jimmy Swaggart
Ken DeLay (did he ever try to apologize?)

Alternative framing of boring day discussion topic: Public apologies: does anyone really care?

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I must say that I miss Jasno here, at least a little bit. At least he put up regular posts and tried to do some analysis. It sure doesn't seem that the new crew is very diligent about posting new stuff, and very little of it is anything more than a rehash of team annoucements or stuff gleaned from interviews posted on the Redskins website. RI isn't what it used to be, in my opinion. The "Insider" part has been lacking for a while.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 19, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Alternative framing of boring day discussion topic: Public apologies: does anyone really care?


Unfortunately some people do, because for whatever reason they feel entitled to an apology. The only people entitled to an apology are the people who were actually wronged. Some of the people on your list were apologizing for no reason (Stewart, McGwire, Spitzer,Letterman) I personally dont give a damn. I find these apologies comical. We have the 24 hour news cycle to thank for this bs, they have to fill it up with something

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | February 19, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

must say that I miss Jasno here, at least a little bit. At least he put up regular posts and tried to do some analysis. It sure doesn't seem that the new crew is very diligent about posting new stuff, and very little of it is anything more than a rehash of team annoucements or stuff gleaned from interviews posted on the Redskins website. RI isn't what it used to be, in my opinion. The "Insider" part has been lacking for a while.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | February 19, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, say what you will about Jasno; he solicited blogs from the regulars, gave us frequent updates and generally took the whole thing seriously. Now, not so much.

I think that WaPo.com is taking RI nation for granted!!!!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 19, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

OK then, time for a little midday monoblogging. Correct answer: only Letterman pulled it off. Alternative correct answer: No one really care except the Hollywood and/or Washington press corps and/or the tabloids at the grocery checkout.

Next topic: Survival of the species is everyone's business.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Oops ... I hit F5 a few times and got deadness. KingJJ, I agree.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I think that WaPo.com is taking RI nation for granted!!!!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 19, 2010 4:27 PM

Its been a two way street for a while ... neither WaPo nor RI can survive without each other, but neither really acknowledges the other very much any more. Kind of like my mind and my body.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

JohnD and skinsfan713, how many times have you started reading the comments immediately below a new post and noticed that they had nothing to do with the new post ... but instead just a carry over discussion from the previous post ... its like beep beep is the indication the next post is going to be "move along, nothing to see here folks."

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

fair enough sween, fair enough - by the way, do you think the 'Skins should keep Campbell for a year well they train up a new QB?

And, I select your alternative correct answer to the apology question.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 19, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

So I read the entire Mosely bit with Jason Campbell and I don't understand why peeps got their panties in a bunch.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/11182/skins-campbell-wont-go-quietly

There's nothing in here that doesn't sound exactly like anything he's said the entire time, specifically, "I'll do the best I can for the team to win ... everything else will take care of itself." The bit about praising the coaches and them knowing what they're doing is also consistent. Man this place goes nuts over nuthin.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

JohnD, I have the same approach as Campbell on that question:
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... Campbell didn't feel like it was his place to inquire about Shanahan's approach to the draft. He said he trusts the coach's experience in that department and will be prepared for whatever happens.

"I have to do whatever it takes to help us win," said Campbell. "All that other stuff will take care of itself. I'm certainly not going to be out campaigning for them to take other positions. They know how to do this stuff."

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

JohnD, I have the same approach as Campbell on that question:
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... Campbell didn't feel like it was his place to inquire about Shanahan's approach to the draft. He said he trusts the coach's experience in that department and will be prepared for whatever happens.

"I have to do whatever it takes to help us win," said Campbell. "All that other stuff will take care of itself. I'm certainly not going to be out campaigning for them to take other positions. They know how to do this stuff."

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

If they say yes then I'd take Bulaga at #5 and a guard and running back in the second.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 19, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

That's the ticket there PA, good thinking. Stand fast for the top LT or give it up for something of value. F*** taking a Q-back this year. Stay dead-last next year and pick one up 2011 or trade for one then. Yee-Haw good buddy.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 19, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

But realizing you asked what I personally think ... hmmm ... do I think they SHOULD keep him for another year while they train up a new QB?

Absolutely. The game is played at the line of scrimmage and without an offensive line, a team is nothing. A good offensive line can even make Kerry Collins look good.

Do they NEED to keep Campbell for another year while they train up someone else? Probably, unless Clot Brennan is the someone else and is ready to step up now.

I don't see QB as a position of need as much as a position of want. Of course a new coach wants to start grooming his new QB. Ideally, what happens is that the Skins find somebody who they can believe in but who, for whatever reason, nobody else believes in. The proverbial Tom Brady (whose college career was as a back up to The Todd).

But for the most part, Campbell gets it right: (1) trust the coach's experience and (2) they know how to do this stuff.

I do think Campbell is mature beyond his years and is more than deserving to be treated with the same level respect and dignity that he has for himself. [I don't think Portis' leadership jab was very respectful or had much dignity to it ... Portis seems like a narcissist to me.]

Bottom line: Number 4 pick ... whatever they do sound fine to me ... and if they are able to trade down out of it, I will be legitimately be impressed.

Posted by: dcsween | February 19, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Redskins cornerback Byron Westbrook was busted early Friday on suspicion of drunk driving charges. Per NBCWashington.com, the brother of Eagles running back Brian Westbrook was pulled over shortly before 2:00 a.m. ET, after switching lanes several times.

via pft

Posted by: will_ga | February 19, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, just read that will_ga... wow! And not about Westbrook-- wow that JReid got scooped by PFT!

Maybe Byron and Rhino can drown their sorrows about being benched next year together at Riggo's house. Just sayin'...

Posted by: TDawg1 | February 19, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I hope Westbrook had a helluva night. For guy who is probably somewhere between 47-53 on the roster, not a smart move if you're seaking consistent employement.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 19, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

O line!

O line!

O line!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 19, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Get what you can when you can. If your QB is there at #4 get him. O-lines are important but you win or lose in the NFL with your QB. Running backs are nice but you win or lose with your QB. The Redskins been doing a lot of losing cause they haven't had a QB in a long time. Rodney Harrison played against good QB's. He dismissed Campbell as nothing more than a back-up. He's right. Get your QB Shanny

Posted by: coparker5 | February 19, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

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