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Campbell on the Offense

Quarterback Jason Campbell said he is not focusing on his contract situation - it expires after the 2009 season - and is bracing for possible "shocking" personnel moves as the Redskins proceed through the offseason.

"I'm not even worried about it," Campbell said when asked whether he thought he did enough to command a contract extension. "You don't do what you do, you do what you're asked to do."

Campbell said that the Redskins' lack of options in the passing game limited their production in the second half of the season, and he hopes rookies Fred Davis, Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas make big strides. He wants to work with them as much as possible this offseason.

"It will be good to have them here for the offseason, and I'm pretty sure those guys will be sticking around catching some balls, catching some passes," Campbell said.

The Redskins were counting on Thomas being a complimentary deep threat to Santana Moss, and Fred Davis's speed being an asset in two tight-end sets with Chris Cooley, but that never materialized. Kelly could not become that big, target possession receiver in the slot on third downs. So while the Redskins "got away" with really just relying on Moss and Cooley in the first half of the season, Campbell said, defenses quickly caught up.

"Teams start to make you have to use your other guys," Campbell said, adding that playing in this league is about more than size and ability and the youngsters have "to understand the different concepts of route running."

As for Washington's offensive line, and the issues with pass protection, Campbell said, "I'm pretty sure that's something we'll look at in the offseason. Coach said he's going to evaluate every position, and every player."

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 29, 2008; 12:20 PM ET
 
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Comments

"Rogers has never missed a tackle? Are you being sarcastic?

Posted by: VTDuffman"

When was the last time you've seen a missed tackle from Rogers? Seriously. Can you give me a distinct moment?

Never is obviously hyperbolic, but I'd be willing to bet there is not one NFL scout, NFL player, or coach that thinks Carlos Rogers is a poor tackling CB.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I am officially off the Portis bandwagon.

Check out the blog entry on Steinbergs bog.

Posted by: Skins1 | December 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Seeing that we're approaching the 2009 season and all..I'm not willing to invest too much stock into 2 seasons ago...especially since he's done nothing in the 2 since

I'll ask you the same question I asked the other guy who didn't feel the need to answer:

What more would you like to see out of Betts as a #2 back? What has he *not* done to prove to you that he's a solid #2? Please be specific and cite examples.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

It just kills me...that THREE second round picks just miss like this...with NO production AT ALL!

Posted by: Maestro301 | December 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else notice Hall's easily missed tackle on 3rd down to set up 1st and goal yesterday? Never see that from Rogers....

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:11 PM

Yeah, I noticed that. But I wouldn't point to that as being the sole reason they scored. It was a 10+ play drive. Alot of folks had the opportunity to stop them.

Did you noticed the play he DID stop someone on thrid down with a hard hit (2nd or 3rd QTR)? Stop them inches short.....

VT - I would love to see you're definition of losing an argument. Just throwing it out there dosen't mean anything........

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

i hope heads roll like they are in detroit in ny. we can talk FO and players until are faces are red, but nothing will change with ol'cerrato and snyder. a coaching move however would make things interesting.

Posted by: dadanimal | December 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

What more would you like to see out of Betts as a #2 back? What has he *not* done to prove to you that he's a solid #2? Please be specific and cite examples.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:27 PM

* Change the pace of the game (Which #2 RBs usually do)

*Score TDs

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 29, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that 1100 yards in 2006 wasn't impressive at all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2008 12:18 PM

Maybe you will answer. If it was so impressive, why didn't he use it as a springboard to start elsewhere for more money than what the Skins offered?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 29, 2008 12:26 PM

He said he's a team guy and likes it in Washington. That's what he said at the time. But I do seem to recall the Broncos and Jets being hot for him at the time so it's not like there wasn't interest. And remember: he was resigned BEFORE he hit the market.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that would shock me is if Snyder fired Cerrato just before quitting himself.

Anything other than that would be par for the course around here.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Film tells the story".....Mike Mamula called, he's looking to make a comeback....you've seen him on film right??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:26

Nice reach. Betts was judged on NFL film.
Are you saying no conclusion can be drawn from a player (who was coming off of his best season and who you said could be starter in the NFL) foregoing an opportunity to test FA and getting a shot to start and instead signing for relatively small money with the overpaying Skins to be a back up? Do you know more than Gibbs who played Betts sparingly last year?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

What more would you like to see out of Betts as a #2 back? What has he *not* done to prove to you that he's a solid #2? Please be specific and cite examples.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:27 PM

* Change the pace of the game (Which #2 RBs usually do)

*Score TDs

Posted by: DaReal4th

I'll add "be productive with limited touches".

Betts would probably be a much better starter in the right system than a back-up RB. As a back-up he's below average. As a starter in the right system, he could be well above average. He needs carries to get into a rhythm, otherwise he doesn't see and hit the whole as well. He's the opposite of a Derrick Ward type.

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I'll ask you the same question I asked the other guy who didn't feel the need to answer:

What more would you like to see out of Betts as a #2 back? What has he *not* done to prove to you that he's a solid #2? Please be specific and cite examples.


I'd like him to average more than 3.5 YPC
I thought the argument was about him starting.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

lh, film trumps actual stats, right. I'm on board now.

Betts played sparingly, and what was the end result from playing sparingly?

Was CP healthy at the end of either season? Could he have used FEWER carries??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

* Change the pace of the game (Which #2 RBs usually do)

I'd argue that Betts' recieving threat changes the pace of the game.

*Score TDs

I'd certainly love for Betts to score more TDs, but I'd also love for all of the Offense to score more TDs. I don't think that a nothing who has proven nothing and done nothing despite given a shot by three diferent teams like marcus Mason would score more TDs.

Someone earlier, I don't know if it was you, said that in a #2 they look for someone to produce as much or slightly less than the #1. I argue that Betts does this, and think the stats back me up.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"Yeah, I noticed that. But I wouldn't point to that as being the sole reason they scored. It was a 10+ play drive. Alot of folks had the opportunity to stop them."

I didn't point to it as the sole reason. I pointed to it because it was a critical play on that drive, and it was a relatively easy, head-on tackle that any player should be expected to make. He whiffed.

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Other than porn, this is the best thing on the internet:

http://www.bangcartoon.com/2008/drops.htm

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | December 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

But I do seem to recall the Broncos and Jets being hot for him at the time so it's not like there wasn't interest. And remember: he was resigned BEFORE he hit the market.


Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2008 12:33 PM

If he was signed before he hit the market how did you hear the Jets and Broncos were hot for him? To express such feelings would be tampering. Where did you "hear" this? Even if there was interest, why didn't he hit FA to increase the Skins' bid if he wanted to stay here? I'll tell you why - he didn't hit FA because he didn't want to decrease the Skins' bid when it was shown that there was little interest.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

So, lh, if I'm not mistaken, betts rushed for over 1000 yards in fewer than 10 games when he was starting. The only time he started in his career, he put up great numbers, but the film shows that he did this with smoke and mirrors?? Or, was he able to will himself invisible....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I am officially off the Portis bandwagon.

Check out the blog entry on Steinbergs bog.

Posted by: Skins1 | December 29, 2008 12:24 PM

It read like Clinton being Clinton to me.

This just tells me that CP26 dosen't want to be a leader of the team. THat's OK. He dosn't have to be...........

JZ just said Colt45 will have his knee cleaned up....

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 29, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

As a back-up he's below average.

How do you figure?

1) What stats do you use to evaluate a back-up RB?
2) Where does Betts land in a list of those stats?

It's silly to make a comparison between our situation and that of NYG, or CAR or something like that where there is a more even split of carries. The non-starter in those systems isn't really the "back-up."

You have to compare to a system where there is a primary back getting the lion's share of the carries, and the backup getting 4 or so.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"it was shown that there was little interest"

Where was this shown, to express such feelings would be tampering......

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Other than porn, this is the best thing on the internet:

http://www.bangcartoon.com/2008/drops.htm


Yes it is. And the radio podcast is great too. Good listening for long trips on the highway. The guy who runs it is a skins fan.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Greg....He did it ONE TIME. TWO YEARS AGO. What has he done since then? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

If that's the case...somebody give Tatum Bell a starting job. One good year doesn't make him worth starting

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

beep X 2

Posted by: Predator48 | December 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

We need more Betts and less Portis...i.e. we should spending dollars on grooming and retaining homegrown draft picks rather than spending millions of dollars on other team's troubled stars and being stuck with their huge contracts...

Posted by: Fuzzy21 | December 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I'll ask you the same question I asked the other guy who didn't feel the need to answer:

What more would you like to see out of Betts as a #2 back? What has he *not* done to prove to you that he's a solid #2? Please be specific and cite examples.


I'd like him to average more than 3.5 YPC
I thought the argument was about him starting.

Posted by: SDMDTSU

To have Betts start you have to bench Portis. To bench Portis you have to have Snyder approve because Portis will go over the coach's head. So you see how really simple it all is and why Portis is still starting despite having a very subpar second half of the season? When Betts did start, 2006, he was more than adequate. What would we gain by getting rid of Betts?
If you say a draft pick, then how would you guarantee that draft pick would be superior to Betts?

Posted by: driley | December 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Was CP healthy at the end of either season? Could he have used FEWER carries??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:39 PM

And that's where MArcus Mason comes in. That's on Vinny and Greg to a lessor extent (trying to lighten the mood).....

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

One good year doesn't make him worth starting

I don't think that anyone is arguing to stat Betts.

I'm arguing that he's a solid #2 RB in this league and if anything should be getting *more* carries to help spell Portis as he is breaking down at this point in his career.

This just tells me that CP26 dosen't want to be a leader of the team. THat's OK. He dosn't have to be...........

Is that really OK to you? Why?

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Greg....He did it ONE TIME. TWO YEARS AGO. What has he done since then? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

If that's the case...somebody give Tatum Bell a starting job. One good year doesn't make him worth starting

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:45 PM |

No one is arguing he should be a starter we said he should get more carries to spell Portis, so Portis would not be tired at the end of the year. if you did'nt notice I'm yelling!

This is a dumb f-ing argument move on with your life.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Beantown, don't misconstrue what I am saying about film and stats. My point is that GMs/scouts/coaches use stats as well as film to judge players. Given his stats, what's your explanation for why last year's regime and the current regime didn't give Betts the kind of burn you think he merits? Is Gibbs not smart? Do you believe he put CP ahead of the team?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

He is not a solid #2. He is average. No different than having Rock Cartwright be the #2. Betts isn't a factor either way really, whether on the bench...or in the game. Any RB can get you 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

The whole offense sucked, not just Portis. Zorn's playcalling contributed as well as subpar blocking. Hard to run when the defense loads the box and your coach has an infatuation with TE screens and slants.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

lh, I don't know why they didn't put him in.

But if you look at it, both LAST year, and THIS year CP was broke down from overuse.

Can you agree to this?? Hopefully you're at LEAST THIS INTELLIGENT, right.

So, given that CP was OVER-USED, it stands to reason that Betts was UNDER-USED.

My FRIGGIN POINT THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING, is that CP should be used LESS, and Betts should be used more.

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT POINT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"How do you figure?

1) What stats do you use to evaluate a back-up RB?
2) Where does Betts land in a list of those stats?"

My definition of a good backup is different from what you described above. I expect a backup RB to be explosive with limited touches, and able to make plays with limited touches.

I'll give you two more: Ahmad Bradshaw and Darren Sproles.

Ladell Betts - 61 attempts, 3.4 YPC, 1 TD, 22 rec, 9.1 YPCatch, 0 TDs

Ahmad Bradshaw - 67 attempts, 5.3 YPC, 1 TD, 5 rec, 8.4 YPCatch, 1 TD

Darren Sproles - 61 attempts, 5.4 YPC, 1 TD, 29 rec, 11.8 YPCatch, 5 TDs

Both of those guys are much more explosive than Betts and average nearly 2 more yards per carry. Both of those guys also average MORE in YPC than the starters in front of them. It's not even close in terms of production with limited touches.

Betts is a great insurance policy for Portis, should he ever go down. As a pure back-up, however, he is average at best.

Posted by: psps23 | December 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Jason said the right thing.Thomas Kelly and Davis needs to develop a chemistry with him in the offseason. There going to be great just need time. I hate when people criticize so early. Once Jason and the coaches develops these three we will be just fine. Just imagine......when they come on board. moss,randle el and the three guys playing lights out. We will be a force to reckon with

Posted by: redskinsfavorite | December 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see the "shutdown" corner last night against the Chargers? Mister Bailey got beat so bad so many times but sure he will continue to go to the Pro Bowl.

Back to the Skins. Yesterday, proved that Moss is not a #1 WR. He is a very good complimentary receiver. He had a very critical drop on 3rd down which was very costly. His mind was definitely not into the game.

Defense played great all year but never had the "big play" player. On one of the last catches for San Fran, Shaun Springs did a great job covering the grass to his left but receiver was going right and pick up a nice gain.

Funny how you can watch another game and in two minutes that game has more exciting plays than Skins have the entire game.

Appears Campbell is very nervous about not throwing an interception that he dumps every pass for minor gains.

Least the Boys lost a big win (again).

BTW, when was the last time the Skins had a fumble/interception and ran it back 30+ yards for a TD????

Hope everyone has a great New Year.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

psps23, what you describe is not a back up, but a role player. Joe Washington was not a back up to John Riggins, he complemented him. We don't have a complementing back on the Skins, we basically have one back up, meaning someone who can come in and shoulder a similar load to the starter, and a couple of full backs. Thats it. See what Sproles and Bradshaw do with 30 carrries a game. And everyone knows that backs like Portis and Betts get the majority of their big plays after the first 10 to 15 carrie, which means a back like Betts is not going to get many big runs carrying 5 or 6 times a game.

Posted by: kenboy1 | December 29, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Jeez Louis,
I'll defend Betts and Portis to the end. Again, every down backs do not average 5 yards a carry with only a few carries a game. It just does not happen. Betts suffered from the same liabilities that Portis did; an O line with age and injury issues, and a total of one, repeat one, down field receiving threat to spread the defense. Anybody remember how effective Riggo was before he lucked into offensive guru Gibbs, Buges and the Hogs, and a bunch of field stretching receivers named the fun bunch and the smurfs?

Posted by: kenboy1 | December 29, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

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