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Expect Jason Campbell's name to continue to be mentioned in trade rumors

Interesting story from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer this morning. The Browns reportedly are interested in trading for a quarterback rather than searching for one on free agent market. We bring this up to illustrate the nuances of the tenders issued yesterday.

Jason Campbell was given a first-round tender. The highest-tender possible would've been a first- and a third-round tender, which would've surely scared any suitors away. Even the first-round tag -- Campbell's original draft spot -- will likely keep teams from signing Campbell to an offer sheet. Draft picks are just considered too sacred these days.

But by making Campbell only a first-round tender, the Redskins save a few bucks, and they also send a subtle message to the rest of the league. While it doesn't mean the Redskins don't value Campbell, it could mean they don't value him too highly to consider trade offers. It could inspire a general manager to call Bruce Allen and see if the Redskins would settle for something via trade that's less than a first-round draft choice.

So what does it mean? Maybe not much. But just because Campbell was tendered an offer yesterday, fans shouldn't be surprised if his name is still attached to trade rumors over the next several weeks.

By Rick Maese  |  March 4, 2010; 9:30 AM ET
Categories:  Jason Campbell  
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What could Cle possibly offer us.

Posted by: rickmort | March 4, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Can a tendered, but unsigned, RFA be traded? What does the receiving team get?

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised. In fact, I expect them to make a trade. The tender says so.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 4, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

who cares, take it!

Posted by: sthai75 | March 4, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

So JR, you are speculating again? Man do you ever have any positive tidbits to report. Your Bias is very annoying and you are a shame to your profession.

Posted by: capitolteacher | March 4, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

What could Cle possibly offer us.

Posted by: rickmort | March 4, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse


Joe Thomas?

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 4, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

So JR, you are speculating again? Man do you ever have any positive tidbits to report. Your Bias is very annoying and you are a shame to your profession.

Posted by: capitolteacher | March 4, 2010 9:49 AM

Shutup, moron. Don't read/comment then if you don't like it. If there was somewhere that had better/more up to date info to get, I guess you'd be reading it there, wouldn't you?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 4, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Can a tendered, but unsigned, RFA be traded? What does the receiving team get?

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 9:43 AM

They get the rights to Campbell that the Redskins presently hold. But, before making the trade, they'd negotiate a new contract with Campbell. If they want him, they want him for more than a year.

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florio
9:51
PFT is hearing rumors being floated that the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Browns are on the verge of trading QB's. Washington would send Jason Campbell to the Browns in exchange for Brady Quinn, in a player for player swap.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Don't read/comment then if you don't like it. If there was somewhere that had better/more up to date info to get, I guess you'd be reading it there, wouldn't you?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 4, 2010 9:51 AM

We all get our up-to-date information somewhere else or, at the worst, in the stuff that the other bloggers post. I think even Jason Reid is getting his information from our posts.

What we can't get anywhere else are those flashes from PFT that BeantownGreg puts up here. I can't even find them on PFT. That's the real reason for being here.

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Zorn always got props for his qb coaching.
But you say "you're sure" he was forced on Holgrem. How are you so sure?

Posted by: mack1 | March 4, 2010 9:47 AM

Dude, he coached for the team where his name is on the Ring of Fame....And he wasn't that good.....He use to get sacked waaay more than JC17 has in multiple seasons.....But Seattle loves this guy....He's LArgent's best friend...

Like PPS8 said, he had the same position for 7 years...He's credited as a good QB coach, but all they can do is name HAssalback and no one else. And to me Hassalback doesn't count.

And the NFL is the most narrsaccistic (sp?) place of employment.

Don't believe me?

Who is our Head Coach?

Now, who is Offensive Coordinator?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

What could Cle possibly offer us.

Posted by: rickmort


Cribbs and a 2nd? I'd take that! ;)

Posted by: stevek20147 | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Can someone show me some examples of tendered then traded players? I'd love to see some examples of tendered 2nd but traded for a 5th.... It sounds a little off, don't it?

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I doubt any trades happen. If they do, I hope we make a smart deal... Hopefully, Shanahan is done sticking it to us. If someones wants JC for a 2nd Round pick, I'd be stunned if we didn't take that and run.

Ahhh - The Infamous Offseason begins again!

I'm F'ing over it.

I don't care about anything accept what we're doing to fix the O-Line. If we don't fix that fiasco, nothing else matters a damn bit. And that... you can take to the bank!

Posted by: EinVB | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

CR22 needs to quit whining and remember that he did not play well last year. His performance did not warrant a long term contract.

If he's upset that management got him on 'the cheap' then maybe he should do something about it. I don't know...work harder and play like an all pro.

P.S. I know people are down and Monty, but I'm holding out that he can hold up well at the NT. If he can, that will really push our 3-4 transition up some.

Posted by: Devo2 | March 4, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Devo2 | March 4, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

We all get our up-to-date information somewhere else or, at the worst, in the stuff that the other bloggers post. I think even Jason Reid is getting his information from our posts.

What we can't get anywhere else are those flashes from PFT that BeantownGreg puts up here. I can't even find them on PFT. That's the real reason for being here.

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM

Well then he can go to those places and get his info. I get so tired of hearing people complain about the writing here. It's a blog. It's going to have some speculation and some inside insight/bias that an ESPN/CNNSI won't have. If you don't like it, don't click on the link.

Complaining about the writing just makes you sound like a whiny little loser.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 4, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Wheather you agree or disagree about JC17 future here as a redskin, he or more so his agent know what the organizations intentions are for goodness sake it's all over the wall and all over the league rumor mill. I think Jason want's out and who can blame him. He's a classic drop 7 step drop back passer that's what he was drafted as unfortunately the man who ran that system is retired and the staff broken up.

Posted by: sthai75 | March 4, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Can a tendered, but unsigned, RFA be traded? What does the receiving team get?

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 9:43 AM

If you sign the tendor you can't seek to sign an offer sheet with another team...You accept the team's offer.

Teams can trade a player for other than the tendor pick after the player signs.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Don't believe me?

Who is our Head Coach?

Now, who is Offensive Coordinator?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse


Head Coach: Mike Shanahan: Umm two superbowl titles

Offensive Cordinator: Yes it's his son, but the Texans offense was very effective last year and the year before.

I think we're in good hands despite the nepotism

Posted by: Devo2 | March 4, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Can someone show me some examples of tendered then traded players? I'd love to see some examples of tendered 2nd but traded for a 5th.... It sounds a little off, don't it?

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM |

Brandon Lloyd. Tendered first or second, traded for a third and a fourth in the next year's draft.

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Complaining about the writing just makes you sound like a whiny little loser.
Posted by: Rypien11 | March 4, 2010 9:58 AM

Agreed. Especially when they try to slam JReid for a post he didn’t even write (Maese wrote this one)……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 4, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Why in the world would we trade JC? I know the rationale is for more draft picks BUT.....we would have NO QB!

Shanahan has made the statement that he likes "competition" and indicated he will have several players vying for the starting QB slot (although Jason seems the most likely to stay in that position).

Bruce Allen has also made the statement "The Future Is NOW" and we are NOT "rebuilding" so trading away our starting QB with no backup (a rookie QB would not be in synch with the NOW statement) would be insane - ala Snyderatto!

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 4, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Complaining about the writing just makes you sound like a whiny little loser.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 4, 2010 9:58 AM

But complaining about other people's complaining makes you sound like a boastful, certified winner?

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Will Snyder strike again?
9:17AM ET
Washington Redskins
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On the opening day of free agency in 2009, the Washington Redskins made a mega-splash with the deal for Albert Haynesworth, the biggest name on the market one year ago. This season, with Julius Peppers, Karlos Dansby and Darren Sproles expected to be the biggest names on the move, which man will wind up under the guidance of Mike Shanahan at this time tomorrow?

According to SI's Peter King on Twitter, the 'Skins are expected to be the most active team in free agency, and they've been linked to each of those three men mentioned above (and others, too). Get ready for a big night.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 4, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I think he's more like an 12 step drop-back... wait, that's bernie kosar.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 4, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

But complaining about other people's complaining makes you sound like a boastful, certified winner?

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 10:03 AM

No. But what about complaining about someone complaining and someone else's complaining?

I guess you're anti - JR too?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 4, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Should have read "Complaining about someone complaining ABOUT someone else's complaining."

Ah, what the hell, who cares.

The point is, if you don't like it, don't read here. Easy as that.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 4, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Campbell and Rogers to the Browns for their 1st and 3rd RND picks.

Posted by: A_o_C57 | March 4, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

If we trade Campbell, we are obviously going to be drafting a QB either at #4 or in the second round. I would assume Cleveland picks pretty highly in the 2nd so just to kick it around we could potentially have #4 and then 2 picks in the 30's. I could live with that. I don;t like Bradford a lot but think he is easily the best prospect coming out this year. Problem is he may be gone 1st overall.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 4, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Can someone show me some examples of tendered then traded players? I'd love to see some examples of tendered 2nd but traded for a 5th.... It sounds a little off, don't it?

Posted by: DikShuttle

Jake plummer also comes to mind, jettison by our current HC to TB but never signed and eventually retired. Though you're right rare in a normal capped year. But this year is differentin that player aquisition will be primarily through the draft and trades.

Posted by: sthai75 | March 4, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I'd trade Campbell for Brady Quinn and a 3rd round draft pick. We'd get a different disappointing QB for next season and recover the Jarmon pick. Plus, Campbell could move on. Cerrato and Zorn put the poor guy through the ringer. Let the man move on and start over. Besides, Quinn might have a sliver of upside.

Posted by: lordtwang | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Mike Florio
9:51
PFT is hearing rumors being floated that the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Browns are on the verge of trading QB's. Washington would send Jason Campbell to the Browns in exchange for Brady Quinn, in a player for player swap.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

haha That's a good one.

Posted by: HustlerofCulture | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan & Allen would be estatic to get the Browns high 3rd rounder for Campbell.

Posted by: PCinOz | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

That Cleveland Plain-Dealer article DOES mention the possibility of the Browns seeking a QB via trade... but the three names mentioned are Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb.

Not a whisper about Cleveland being interested in JC.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

hustler, thats a copy and paste from PFT, and those guys are legit...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Folks, no one is going to trade a 1st round pick in this year's draft for an existing player on our team. No one. No player. Okay, maybe the Raiders are crazy enough, but no one else is.

Posted by: lordtwang | March 4, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan & Allen would be estatic to get the Browns high 3rd rounder for Campbell.

Posted by: PCinOz | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM

Maybe a second or a third this year plus a conditional pick next year depending on his playing time. That's what I've seen on the intertubes.

Basically it depends on whether more than one team will show interest in JC.

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Not a whisper about Cleveland being interested in JC.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM

McNabb is going to St. Louis on Friday.

HAssalback is a possibility, but they don't run the WCO up there (for the moment).

Kolb is Philly's future. Vick's if he fails.

Maybe Bulger? You know their are prob some unmention teams in there.....so JC can be a real possibility....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan & Allen would be estatic to get the Browns high 3rd rounder for Campbell.

Posted by: PCinOz | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM

True....True....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

ESPN First Take is talking almost exclusively Redskins today...everybody thinks we're going nuts in FA.

Skip Bayless says he thinks says the NFC East is wide open and that the Skins can be a Super Bowl contender "sooner rather than later" (he specified within in the next 2-3 years). He adds that the trio of Snyder's money, Shanahan's savvy and Allen's smarts will make us a dangerous team going forward.

Hopefully he's as right about that as he was about Dallas this year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 4, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

It's really not JR that "you" claim is bias, other experts state that the skins will be aggressive in personel changes. This is who we are, it really shouldn't suprise anyone. Jeff George, B smith, Carrier, D sanders......A haynesworth the list goes on and on. Unless you're living in the pre snyder era you have to accept that. We have a owner who wants to win, only difference is we have someone other than Cerrato in charge. Things are looking up people.

Posted by: sthai75 | March 4, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Ahhh - The Infamous Offseason begins again!

I'm F'ing over it.

Posted by: EinVB | March 4, 2010 9:55 AM

In the words of Al Pacino in his role as the blind veteran in "Scent of a Woman" ... I'M JUS' GITTIN' WAHMED UP!

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

03.03.2010 11:05 pm
A “lowball” offer for Atogwe?
By Jim Thomas
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Share this Print this Digg Yahoo! Del.icio.us Facebook Reddit Drudge Google Fark Stumble It! When it comes to the National Football League, there’s the football season, and the business season. Safety Oshiomogho Atogwe may be about to discover first-hand how cold the business season can be.

League sources told the Post-Dispatch late Wednesday that the St. Louis Rams are strongly considering placing the lowest tender offer possible _ the right of first refusal tender _ on Atogwe. Such a tender gives the Rams the right to match any outside offer on Atogwe as a restricted free agent, but the Rams would get no draft-pick compensation if they chose not to match.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan & Allen would be estatic to get the Browns high 3rd rounder for Campbell.

Posted by: PCinOz | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM

True....True....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:24 AM

Disagree ... disagree ...

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Jeff George, B smith, Carrier, D sanders......A haynesworth the list goes on and on.

hahahahahahahahahah...are you serious?? Did you really bring up those guys, then try and put AH in that category??

seriously??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Campbell is just turning into a circus.. just trade him already and be done with him...

Posted by: sovine08 | March 4, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Dream Scenario...

This is a deep draft... let JC go for a 2/3 and a 4.
Trade down from the 4 spot, but don't get greedy, take a 3 and maybe a 4 and 5...

Then you've got a mid round 1... two 2's and a three and two 4's...

Use the picks for the O-line, QB and an RB... use the Danny Buck$ on the defensive side of free agency...

Posted by: bschaef12 | March 4, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Today is kind of like Christmas Eve. Just sitting here wondering about all the shiny new toys we'll have tomorrow.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 4, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

That right of first refusal on Atogwe is not the fabled 'low tender' insult that it seems ... the guy was franchise tagged the past two seasons so his base salary is already way way high going into what otherwise would seem like unrestriced free agency for him. If they tendered him at anything but the lowest level, the associated salary requirement pays him better next season than any safety in the league (I bet ... factually, I have no clue).

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

That Cleveland Plain-Dealer article DOES mention the possibility of the Browns seeking a QB via trade... but the three names mentioned are Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb.

Not a whisper about Cleveland being interested in JC.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | March 4, 2010 10:19 AM

Unfortunately I'd take 2 of the 3 over JC17 and Hasselback has ties to Holmgren. Again my hopes of a trade have been dashed. Thanks MrRedskin21.

Posted by: sthai75 | March 4, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:29 AM

Makes you wonder what's up with Atogwe. Wasn't he franchised before?

Posted by: TWISI | March 4, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Until and unless the Skins draft a sure-fire QB in the first round, they will continue to hold on to Campbell. Once they do, however, draft or otherwise obtain another FA QB, Campbell will become expendable.

Shanny has been saying and doing all the right things, but it's obvious that Campbell has played his last game in a Skins uniform.

Posted by: dc1020008 | March 4, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse


HAssalback is a possibility, but they don't run the WCO up there (for the moment).

Kolb is Philly's future. Vick's if he fails.

Maybe Bulger? You know their are prob some unmention teams in there.....so JC can be a real possibility....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

They just Hired Charlie Weiss so the WCO will be installed.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

If we trade Campbell, we are obviously going to be drafting a QB either at #4 or in the second round. I would assume Cleveland picks pretty highly in the 2nd so just to kick it around we could potentially have #4 and then 2 picks in the 30's. I could live with that. I don;t like Bradford a lot but think he is easily the best prospect coming out this year. Problem is he may be gone 1st overall.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | March 4, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Even if we traded Campell I wouldn't draft a QB at #4 or in the second round(unless Clausen falls that far). I'd draft Okung and Mathews/Best. I'd still wait until next year to get a QB. I'd bring in a stopgap QB like a Jeff Garcia for a year. He may pee a little when he gets sacked but he's still good enough to take a couple hits until next year. I wouldn't ever reach for a QB that high in the draft. It's just too much money. We still need a whole lot more than a QB. Build the rest of the team and wait for the right oppurtunity to land a QB. Maybe some backup comes out and plays awesome this year and some team ends up with a QB controversy. Then maybe they let one go next year? Donovan McNabb, Drew Brees, and Matt Schaub come to mind. There seems to be one every year. Next year's prospects look better and can be had for cheaper. Stop trying to force the QB position. Let it come to you. If Lefevour is there in the 4th take him. Bring an undrafted guy with good accuracy like Mike Kafka into camp and see what happens. QBs are too expensive to keep reaching for. Think about it. Who did we reach for? We reached for Pat Ramsey. He failed. We reached for JC. We're not happy with him. Why go through that again?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

my wife wants the Skins to sign Campbell to a multi-year extension.

Because that will stop me from buying the NFL DirectTV package.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

WE CAN GO AFTER MANNY TOO ONLY 4TH ROUND TENDOR


Lions tender offers to restricted free agents Ramirez, Gandy
Tim Twentyman / The Detroit News
Allen Park -- The Lions have tendered offers to their restricted free agents and will make that list official Thursday.

A league source confirmed that free-agent guards Manny Ramirez, who started 12 games last season, and Dylan Gandy, who started five, and cornerback Kevin Hobbs are among those receiving offers.

A restricted free agent can sign an offer sheet with another team, but the team holding his rights can match any offer or receive compensation in the form of draft picks. The original-round tender for Ramirez -- worth a $1.1 million salary for the fourth-year pro next season-- gives the Lions the right to a fourth-round pick in 2011 if he signs elsewhere. Gandy's offer would pay him $1.176 million next season

From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100303/SPORTS0101/3030429/1126/SPORTS0101/Lions-tender-offers-to-restricted-free-agents-Ramirez--Gandy#ixzz0hDmtvLGF

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

"everybody thinks we're going nuts in FA."

Kind of makes sense, doesn't it? In previous years we've been hamstrung by bad contracts and a salary cap, yet we still managed to go nuts in FA.

This year we have the ability to clear all the bad contracts we want without penalty AND there is no cap restrictions for us.

Plus, it's not like Allen and Shanahan are known for their conservative nature when it comes to team-building philosophy. Both are pretty aggressive guys that use every avenue possible for their roster.

But the one guy I'm still really holding out for is Sproles. He could be a game-changer under Shanahan.

Posted by: psps23 | March 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

That said, lets GIT OUT THERE and make a multi-year offer to Atogwe that the Rams can't match! He got hit with a high tender the first time he was RFA, then tagged twice ... under HASLETT as DC. We need someone who can drive Haslett's car ... and a free safety with hands! [He has had some huge years for picks. Last year, not so much, he got hurt.]

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Dream Scenario...

This is a deep draft... let JC go for a 2/3 and a 4.
Trade down from the 4 spot, but don't get greedy, take a 3 and maybe a 4 and 5...

Then you've got a mid round 1... two 2's and a three and two 4's...

Use the picks for the O-line, QB and an RB... use the Danny Buck$ on the defensive side of free agency...

Posted by: bschaef12 | March 4, 2010 10:31 AM

See, the thing about dreams are they aren't real. So if you're gonna dream, dream big:

JC and Portis to the Pats for Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Vince Wilfork and their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks.

Now THAT'S a "dream scenario".

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 4, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

yeh. Somethin tells me these tenders are going to stick, mostly.

Most of the league has been using us as a dumping ground for a while. I doubt they'll change their mind now.

Embrace the suck.

Posted by: DikShuttle | March 4, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Disagree ... disagree ...

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 10:29 AM

What would be acceptable to you?

@ETrod - Weiss went to KC, not Cleveland, but I think you are right about the WCO coming soon....but just not this season...

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

hustler, thats a copy and paste from PFT, and those guys are legit...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

While I read PFT, I wouldn't call him legit. He just prints anything he hears regardless of where he hears it.

Posted by: HustlerofCulture | March 4, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

But the one guy I'm still really holding out for is Sproles. He could be a game-changer under Shanahan.

Posted by: psps23 | March 4, 2010 10:34 AM

Game changer! Sounds great. Love me some game changer. I remember when Brandon Lloyd was going to be a game changer under Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

All of this rumor-mongering aside, I have it on good authority that the Redskins intend to erect a 40 foot bronze statue of JC17 at the front gates of FEDEX Field -- in appreciation and recognition of his obviously superior talent and demonstrated ability to win the big games.

Posted by: Vic1 | March 4, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

PFT, and those guys are legit...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 10:20 AM

This is the pot calling the kettle white.

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

This year we have the ability to clear all the bad contracts we want without penalty AND there is no cap restrictions for us.


Posted by: psps23 | March 4, 2010 10:34 AM


Yeah, but keep in mind nobody knows what's gonna happen in 2011...so it's not a good idea to go all out in 2010 if you gotta tear the team apart to get under whatever cap may be in place come 2011.

I don't mind dipping in FA...I just wanna see us proceed with caution.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 4, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Here's what happened ...

Traded starter, depth guy, and next year's second rounder for a 32 year old starter.

Then traded seventh rounder for an undersized 36 year old depth guy.

Then traded this year's second rounder for a 32 year old depth guy.

Finally, traded a conditional pick in this year's draft to reacquire a guy traded away earlier in the season.

Sound familiar? In DC?

Its not the Skins. This is what the Capitals just did yesterday.

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 4, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

4th, no thanks on those guys from Det. I'd rather keep the 4th round pick and draft our own cats...

ryp, did I get another, or does that only count for 1/2.

bring in Atogwe, however...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

In past years we've had tonnes of money but a cap and an idiot in charge.

This year we have tonnes of money, no cap, and two of the better football minds in the NFL running the show.

Geez, I wonder what the differnece will be? (SARCASM INTENDED)

Posted by: PCinOz | March 4, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Dream Scenario...

This is a deep draft... let JC go for a 2/3 and a 4.
Trade down from the 4 spot, but don't get greedy, take a 3 and maybe a 4 and 5...

Then you've got a mid round 1... two 2's and a three and two 4's...

Use the picks for the O-line, QB and an RB... use the Danny Buck$ on the defensive side of free agency...

Posted by: bschaef12 | March 4, 2010 10:31 AM

See, the thing about dreams are they aren't real. So if you're gonna dream, dream big:

JC and Portis to the Pats for Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Vince Wilfork and their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks.

Now THAT'S a "dream scenario".

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 4, 2010 10:35 AM
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Obviously my aim is a wee bit off... and if the dream fails to come to fruition, I'll end up like Jim Baker, on the floor in the fetal position under my desk...

I will dream large on the FA side of things, as only defensive players seem available...

shoot for Rolle at FS... and obviously Dansby at LB... stay away from Peppers... no heart...

Posted by: bschaef12 | March 4, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

"I remember when Brandon Lloyd was going to be a game changer under Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: League-Source"

Yep.

Santana Moss was supposed to be one too. Amazingly, he actually panned out. What a shocker, right? An outside talent actually benefiting the Skins? No way that could happen. Eff free agency.

Posted by: psps23 | March 4, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

All of this rumor-mongering aside, I have it on good authority that the Redskins intend to erect a 40 foot bronze statue of JC17 at the front gates of FEDEX Field -- in appreciation and recognition of his obviously superior talent and demonstrated ability to win the big games.

Posted by: Vic1 | March 4, 2010 10:38 AM
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That statue's Read And Release will be faster than JC.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 4, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

4th, no thanks on those guys from Det. I'd rather keep the 4th round pick and draft our own cats...

ryp, did I get another, or does that only count for 1/2.

bring in Atogwe, however...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 4, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Those guys were bad last year. A lot of people want to hang it on Backus but those guys were much worse. Stay away from them.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 4, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

'Skins cleaning house tonight

Posted by: League-Source | March 4, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I simply don't understand all of this hatred directed at JC17.

It's not as if the Dude don't know how to play the position or anything, is it?

It's not like he can't read defenses or take a seven step drop and throw anything downfield -- or even when starting from a shotgun position, complete a pass for more than 7 yards.

It's not as if the offensive coordinators haven't had to simplify every play to a predictable level of dull comprehension for him -- while also keeping extra players clustered around him to block through his dithering and indecisiveness.

And it's not as if he has stunk up the joint for the last five years or anything.

So why all the hatred?

Posted by: Vic1 | March 4, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Reading the JC17 debates is a lot like reading exchanges between political partisans. Some are so emotionally invested in their biases, they are completely immune to reason.

Here's the deal: JC17 was not given a contract extension. He is guaranteed a long term future here. However, he was tagged with a 1st round tender. That means he's still competing for his job, just as he did last year.

If he was a top 10 QB, he would have earned a contract extension. If he was a bottom 10 QB, he wouldn't have gotten a 1st round tender.

JC17 will compete for his job this year, which is a very fair approach for a brand new coach given a QB who has neither shined nor bombed.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 4, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

...He is NOT guaranteed a long term future here...

Posted by: Alan4 | March 4, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Why in the world would we trade JC? I know the rationale is for more draft picks BUT.....we would have NO QB!

Shanahan has made the statement that he likes "competition" and indicated he will have several players vying for the starting QB slot (although Jason seems the most likely to stay in that position).

Bruce Allen has also made the statement "The Future Is NOW" and we are NOT "rebuilding" so trading away our starting QB with no backup (a rookie QB would not be in synch with the NOW statement) would be insane - ala Snyderatto!

Posted by: Lisa_R | March 4, 2010 10:02 AM
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Actually, Vinny and Dan could not pull off a trade of Jason Campbell, so, technically this is not ala Snyderatto. If they can get value for him, then why not? If they aren't planning for him to be a part of the long term solution, then why hang onto him for another second? Is he going to get them to the Superbowl next season? No, I don't think Washington will even get a taste of the playoffs in a year that most agree will be a rebuilding/recalibrating year. If they keep as a stop-gap, I'm okay with that, too, but if you haven't figured out that JC is not part of the long term plan, then you weren't watching when they tendered him - instead of signing him to a long term contract.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 4, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Today is kind of like Christmas Eve. Just sitting here wondering about all the shiny new toys we'll have tomorrow.

Posted by: zjfr2 | March 4, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse


YES! YOU GOT ME A NEW DE?!?!

Posted by: A_o_C57 | March 4, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Wow I post in the comments about a possible trade with St Louis and all of sudden rumors to cleveland. Allen should give some interest, but drag his feet a little to see if any other suitors show up, maybe we can get quin, and a 2nd round pick, which would be fine and dandy :D

Posted by: Veretax | March 4, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

My buddy Bean,

Still believes that our redskins run a quiet offseason and that we're conventional. And having depth at TE is necassary, when all the other positions are in desperate shape. and we're going to have a more potent offense with 2 TE formations. At this rate we'll start resembling competitive NFL team by the time Shanny contract is up. Exuse my mispellings in advance.

Posted by: sthai75 | March 4, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

What could Cle possibly offer us.

Posted by: rickmort

A stale doughnut but I will settle for nothing as long as they take him.

Posted by: hock1 | March 4, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell is a Tender Roni! lol

Posted by: hightek82 | March 4, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Cleveland would offer up Brady Quinn for JC straight up. Thats all I can see unless they offer the Harrison (RB) that broke out late last year for them.

Posted by: rvanags | March 4, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Disagree ... disagree ...

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 10:29 AM

What would be acceptable to you?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 4, 2010 10:37 AM

Maybe second round pick in THIS year's draft plus a developmental nose tackle or Hank Fraley. Third round pick for Jason Campbell ... the guy who is otherwise the TOP free agent is way too low (this stuff about Matt Moore is BS), esp. b/c there is no one ready to start Week One ...

http://www.walterfootball.com/freeagents2010QB.php

Posted by: dcsween | March 4, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't Antonio Pierce recently cut by the Giants? He is only 31 and would be a good, short term alternative backup to the 35 year Fletcher. For the right price of course.

Posted by: JohnWWW | March 4, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"my wife wants the Skins to sign Campbell to a multi-year extension.

Because that will stop me from buying the NFL DirectTV package."

That's funny!

If Cerrato was still here, I would not have even thought of re-upping next year. I told everyone I knew that there was no way I was wasting anymore cash on the Skins. That's how angry I was about last year, and that's saying something.

Saying that, I think the Skins should bring JC back and here's why: I don't think they should draft a QB this year and they should draft an OL.

No, you don't give JC a mega contract. Give the kid a 2/3 year deal, start him next year under a better OL and wait to see if you can get a better QB down the road.

I don't believe in Bradford or Clausen and I think they will be throwing that pick away in both of those guys.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | March 4, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

let JC go he is not gonna go no where with the skins.

Posted by: iboost | March 4, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

So JR, you are speculating again? Man do you ever have any positive tidbits to report. Your Bias is very annoying and you are a shame to your profession.

Posted by: capitolteacher |

He feed off of the emotions of disgruntled fans so he really does not do good reporting, he just throws something out their for bloggers to chew up and we fall for it every time.

Posted by: ged0386 | March 4, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Getting rid of Campbell would almost certainly mean taking future busts Branford or Clauson with the 4th pick so NO. Keep Campbell. Oooooooooooookung!!!

Posted by: mcgratsp | March 4, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

enough with the rumors just trade Campbell already.. i'm so sick and tried hearing about him...

Posted by: sovine08 | March 4, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

How about if we get a first rounder for Campbell and use both it + our first rounder on Okung & another stud O-lineman. Grab a free agent QB like Jeff Garcia (west coast offense friendly) for a stop-gap QB.

Posted by: shanks1 | March 4, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

garcia is too old, quinn is not any good and none of the free agent qb's are better than campbell. washington should draft down if possible shanahan can pick a young qb at rd 3 or 4 and start rebuilding the o-line if not like I said previously if they go after a qb with their no. 4 pick and don't address the line this team will win 3-6 games for the next 2 yrs.

Posted by: wathu19 | March 4, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm good with winning 3-6 games for the next 2 years if there are winning years after. Another decade of somewhere between 6-10 and 10-6 is unacceptable.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | March 4, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

you people realize that talent evaluators in the NFL dont think Campbell is worth a 5th rounder- don't you?

Posted by: danredmondfootball | March 4, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

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